A pleasant surprise to see a this rainy sunday. Enjoyed watching the video, and happy to see a positive ending. Thank you bunnspecial for making these videos and hope you keep tinkering away with these lovely pocket watches. Kind Regards
For a watch that hasn't been serviced in awhile it sure does have a healthy amplitude, I think it's safe to assume the mainspring isn't set, after you get a chance to do a full sevice on it you are going to have very nice time piece, what ever you spent on it was money well spent
I don't know if you know about a procuct called "connoisseurs" or not but it comes in a red plastic jar they make it for jewelry cleaning, they make one type for gold,platinum,diamonds and precious stones.(thats all listed on one jar) another type for sterling silver jewelry and some other types that I can't remember right now, I keep both of the above mentioned on hand, it's fairly cheap I get it from the jewelry dept; at walmart, I am sure other places carry it as well, It comes with a little basket in side and a tiny little brush ( looks like a tooth brush ) you just put what ever you want to clean in the basket and sink the basket in the jar for about 30seconds and pull it out and rinse in warm tap water, instructions printed on the back detailing what not to put in the jar you are using, less than $10.00 bucks for a 8 fl oz jar, it works really good, and it's got a wide mouth opening so you can get a 18s case down in it
Oh by the way, on the back of the jar for sterling silver it states use on sterling silver only, although it doesn't say you can use it on coin silver you can, but anything that isn't marked as having silver don't put it in the silver cleaner, their not kidding here, the cowboy in me put a silveriod case in it and it turned the case black almost immediatly, but this can be cleaned off with toothpaste, just rubb toothpaste on it with no water and it will clean it up right away after you get it cleaned then rinse the toothpaste off in hot water, actually I use to use toothpaste for silver and gold and it really does do a good job, but I found this cleaner less messy and faster, also on the gold cleaner it say's not to use on pearls, they make a cleaner for pearls, they call it "delicate jewelry cleaner for pearls"
First I touch the hairspring with a newspaper to remove the oil between the coils and then I soaked it in lighter fluid to remove the rest. If you don't get it all off the coils might stick together.
Its funny dealing with used pocket watches is a lot like dealing with used cars. A little less expensive, but a lot of parallels too. A lot of times the motor needs overhauled. The case gets all banged up. And there's always some goof under the hood Jerry rigging stuff.
I bought a Grade 77 on the Internet and, upon disassembly, noted that the bottom of the barrel (no pun intended) has cutouts for a Geneva stop (or stop wind), though just as on your Grade 62 example, here, the mechanism, itself, was missing. I am surprised to find that feature on a Grade 77 barrel and don't understand why someone would replace the original barrel with such an anomaly. Thoughts?
I think it's an early Elgin Nat'l Watch Co. pocketwatch. See the Cooksey book entry under Elgin - first year of production, early serial number (1115) with Culver signed movement. Seems early original dials left the "Elgin" off. They made over 55 million watches.
I agree it is an early Elgin. I have made another video where I take it apart to see how many parts are original to the watch. The reason Elgin is not on the dial is because the name of the company was originally National Watch Co. When you look at the movement you see a big Elgin written on it. People would call the watch an Elgin so the company changed the name. This is what I read off the internet. They say that half of all the quality watches made in America were made by Elgin.
Great video's I think I have watched all yours, anyways what video cam do you use? I repair clocks and have been wanting to use a video cam to record my work, sometimes I get messed up and could go back and see what I did wrong if I had a cam Thanks
I made a video showing the camera I use. I don't remember the exact title but the video was about a Zeno watch and the video camera I use. It is still available for watching.
Hi , Love your videos watch them all the time. When are you going to teach pocket watch repair? You would make a great teacher. Keep up the videos,Great!
There are three books, one called Marion which looks like a coffee table book published by NAWCC, the other written by Ehrhardt published by Heart of America. A third source is Nieblings book on watch cases. Unfortunately these books are somewhat rare and in Nieblings case expensive at about $200 a copy. The case should be sterling silver and the three noted case makers are Jacques Laurent, a Montreal maker noted as John Street, and C&A Pequignot. They were like Howard and did not make the cases themselves. This information is from the NAWCC book however it references Niebling.
I thought that. I just don't know why I was the only one to bid on this. You would think first year production would be desirable. Is there a data base to tell if the balance is correct for this watch? Marked under the balance is the last two digits of the serial number.
A pleasant surprise to see a this rainy sunday. Enjoyed watching the video, and happy to see a positive ending. Thank you bunnspecial for making these videos and hope you keep tinkering away with these lovely pocket watches. Kind Regards
Wonderful! Your videos are most informative and entertaining. I am a newbee to this hobby and am well educated by you, many thanks.
For a watch that hasn't been serviced in awhile it sure does have a healthy amplitude, I think it's safe to assume the mainspring isn't set, after you get a chance to do a full sevice on it you are going to have very nice time piece, what ever you spent on it was money well spent
I agree. I always worry when I buy old watches. You never know what has been done to them. This one was not messed with.
Really great to see you back again, bud. Thanks for the great videos!
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it.
I don't know if you know about a procuct called "connoisseurs" or not but it comes in a red plastic jar they make it for jewelry cleaning, they make one type for gold,platinum,diamonds and precious stones.(thats all listed on one jar) another type for sterling silver jewelry and some other types that I can't remember right now, I keep both of the above mentioned on hand, it's fairly cheap I get it from the jewelry dept; at walmart, I am sure other places carry it as well, It comes with a little basket in side and a tiny little brush ( looks like a tooth brush ) you just put what ever you want to clean in the basket and sink the basket in the jar for about 30seconds and pull it out and rinse in warm tap water, instructions printed on the back detailing what not to put in the jar you are using, less than $10.00 bucks for a 8 fl oz jar, it works really good, and it's got a wide mouth opening so you can get a 18s case down in it
Oh by the way, on the back of the jar for sterling silver it states use on sterling silver only, although it doesn't say you can use it on coin silver you can, but anything that isn't marked as having silver don't put it in the silver cleaner, their not kidding here, the cowboy in me put a silveriod case in it and it turned the case black almost immediatly, but this can be cleaned off with toothpaste, just rubb toothpaste on it with no water and it will clean it up right away after you get it cleaned then rinse the toothpaste off in hot water, actually I use to use toothpaste for silver and gold and it really does do a good job, but I found this cleaner less messy and faster, also on the gold cleaner it say's not to use on pearls, they make a cleaner for pearls, they call it "delicate jewelry cleaner for pearls"
Thanks for the videos, I enjoy them very much.
What did you use to clean the hair spring with?
First I touch the hairspring with a newspaper to remove the oil between the coils and then I soaked it in lighter fluid to remove the rest. If you don't get it all off the coils might stick together.
Its funny dealing with used pocket watches is a lot like dealing with used cars. A little less expensive, but a lot of parallels too. A lot of times the motor needs overhauled. The case gets all banged up. And there's always some goof under the hood Jerry rigging stuff.
I bought a Grade 77 on the Internet and, upon disassembly, noted that the bottom of the barrel (no pun intended) has cutouts for a Geneva stop (or stop wind), though just as on your Grade 62 example, here, the mechanism, itself, was missing. I am surprised to find that feature on a Grade 77 barrel and don't understand why someone would replace the original barrel with such an anomaly. Thoughts?
The scrolly monogram (initials) look like USWC (US Watch Co?)
The mesh bag looks like the ones used to hold the rice thrown at weddings.
I think it's an early Elgin Nat'l Watch Co. pocketwatch. See the Cooksey book entry under Elgin - first year of production, early serial number (1115) with Culver signed movement. Seems early original dials left the "Elgin" off. They made over 55 million watches.
I agree it is an early Elgin. I have made another video where I take it apart to see how many parts are original to the watch. The reason Elgin is not on the dial is because the name of the company was originally National Watch Co. When you look at the movement you see a big Elgin written on it. People would call the watch an Elgin so the company changed the name. This is what I read off the internet. They say that half of all the quality watches made in America were made by Elgin.
"So it should just fall ou..*thunk*..daaammit!!" Hahaha good stuff right there!
Not the first time that happened and it won't be the last.
Look on the bright side- if the parts are oily, they are protected from rusting...
that balance is flying now! nice...
I have lots of round head screws tell me what you Need I have lots of parts Elgin and Waltham.
Great video's I think I have watched all yours, anyways what video cam do you use? I repair clocks and have been wanting to use a video cam to record my work, sometimes I get messed up and could go back and see what I did wrong if I had a cam Thanks
I made a video showing the camera I use. I don't remember the exact title but the video was about a Zeno watch and the video camera I use. It is still available for watching.
Hi , Love your videos watch them all the time. When are you going to teach pocket watch repair? You would make a great teacher. Keep up the videos,Great!
This is just a hobby so I am not qualified to teach about watch repair.
Okay I understand. Hope you keep the videos going I am sure you are helping alot of folks. Thanks for sharing.
How much do you typically pay for these watches?
7:52...AW, CRUMBS-! - Earnest Penfold
do you resell them, you buy so many, it's nice that you can bring these relics, probably expensive in the day, back from the dead
Many years ago I would trade with other people for other watches. Have not sold any. Stopped buying in the year 2021 since I have a lot.
Look at that sucker go!!
:))
Hilarious!
The case is quite rare, actual US Watch company cases (Marion) are hard to find. Most I have seen are solid gold.
Do you know where I can find out more. I did a search in the internet and only found out about the watches not cases.
There are three books, one called Marion which looks like a coffee table book published by NAWCC, the other written by Ehrhardt published by Heart of America. A third source is Nieblings book on watch cases. Unfortunately these books are somewhat rare and in Nieblings case expensive at about $200 a copy. The case should be sterling silver and the three noted case makers are Jacques Laurent, a Montreal maker noted as John Street, and C&A Pequignot. They were like Howard and did not make the cases themselves. This information is from the NAWCC book however it references Niebling.
Thanks very much for showing us about how an old watch was cared for.
I looked it up its a 1867 first opened that was the year they opened
I thought that. I just don't know why I was the only one to bid on this. You would think first year production would be desirable. Is there a data base to tell if the balance is correct for this watch? Marked under the balance is the last two digits of the serial number.
You are so lucky with watches from E bay
I have bought my share of junk. Why make a video of that?
@@bunnspecial So true
getting the run a round on this one ;
I think that is "United States Watch Co"
I have akey pocket watch what's it worth
It is worth what some one is willing to pay for it.
Heh, this is why I prefer manually focusing my camera.
Anyways, pretty nice find, far better than some of the watches I have.
My camera is auto focus only.
bunnspecial Shame. I'd send you one of my other cameras, but I don't have a box of the right size, plus I have no clue where you are.
What kind of camera is it?
Canon R300. Not exactly the most sophisticated of cameras, but it works for what I need it to do.
...re-arrange the letters in "cheat", and it spells "teach"!!
...how's that for an anagram?!!
that it mate take off the balance DIK very funny .. jeff ..
The case is nickle
Wat een mazzel
United states watch co.
YAAAAAAAAY A NEW VIDEO!!!!!!