I love the new Chevy trucks. They are the top selling vehicle in the country in the 18-35 year old market. The Tahoe IMO looks even better than the Silverado.
When this redesign came out I thought they where ugly. The 'burban and Tahoe look nice to me, but I'm still not sold on their trucks, also they're too tall/massive looking for me. Then again, I'm not in the market for one of these trucks so they probably don't care about my thoughts.
We rented a GMC Denali on a recent visit to Colorado and I was very impressed with its off-road capability. While we weren't on Jeep Rubicon type trails in Moab, we did experience some rocky ascents which were maybe a bit more extreme than what was displayed in this video. My experience was that similar in Auto and the E-diff seemed to perform better than 4 Lo.
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@@melanaa15 the Z71 airbag suspension is identical height to this. And the suspension pushes the body away from the ground not the suspension components .
Not that it really matters but the binding in traditional 4wd systems occurs because the front and rear are locked together, not due to the left/right being locked together. Definitely would like to see more auto 4wd on pickups though, sometimes even rain is enough to get the rear tires to light up without any weight in the bed. One of my favorite features of my limited 4Runner is the full time 4WD with a 2 speed transfer case.
Auto 4WD/full-time 4WD is awesome, I love it in my GMC Canyon during the winter. I just can't see myself buying a 4WD vehicle that doesn't have full-time 4WD now. I'm happy to see that more full-size trucks are being offered with it as well. I took my Canyon to Colorado (San Juan mountains) and was very impressed with how well it did, between the Falken Wildpeak A/T3w tires and the G80 rear locker it was pretty effortless.
Im a Land Cruiser guy, but nice to see GM step up their game. This SUV is a very big improvement from the previous model in comfort and quality wise. One thing I noticed that GM should review, the rear arms and axle are too low for a off road ride, Other than that I think GM starting to take the right path. The Middle East is a big market for cars and specially for SUVs and Trucks. General Motors SUVs and Trucks used to be a fierce competitor with Toyota between 1970s and the beginning of 2000s in the Middle East. Now is the right time to restore glory of the American Cars Industry
Great review. Very honest feedback. I’ve been wanting the diesel but they really don’t make it worth while with the price and what isn’t included. Appreciate this review.
The past two vehicles I have owned (FCA and Jaguar) both have had the round turn dial shifter, and I have to say that I absolutely love it, and would not like anything other at this point. Not so much when its on the dash, but down on the center console next to your hand. it is effortless to shift and very natural feeling. I'm not sure if Chevy will keep this design for very long, as so many people have voiced dislike for it. but perhaps it just takes time to get used to it? time will tell.
@@melanaa15 Good but it took you a while to get used to this weird configuration. They should have sticked to the column shifter or on the console like the Escalade.
I'm here in Feb. 2024... have an old (2012) Yukon SLT 4WD that doesn't have low range but does have an AUTO selection which I've found to be excellent for just about anything. Usually in my commute I just keep it in 2WD but with any inclement weather AUTO is great as it is for light off-roading/camping. For winter months I switch out my 22" rims/tires for a set of 17s I picked up on the cheap with AT/all-weather snow rated tires. The tech in current models has come a long way but my 3rd Gen Yukon now has 212k miles and is still going strong for all I ask it to do.
Good day I purchased Z71 and now I have it for 1 year. During this year I took it for maintenace several times.once for hydraulic jumping, another time because computer had some problem recently petrol gage was not working and some sound was coming from front tyre while turning.otherwise it is comfortable.
Either Im confused or he is. I always thought the Auto mode would automatically activate 4wd IF the vehicle senses excessive slipping. HE seems to think its an AWD sort of thing (which it may be in these newer trucks). I still love my 09 Denali. No selector. All time AWD. Lets face it, were not going muddin in our denalis, SNOW on the other hand... bring on the AWD!
@@Mazord06 Here is how 4x4 Auto works 4x4 Low everything is engaged and the transfer case is in low gear front hubs locked 4x4 High everything is engaged and the transfer case is in high gear front hubs locked 4x4 Auto Transfer case in high gear front hubs disengaged ( Auto locks front hubs when slip detected) Never leave your vehicle in 4x4 Auto on a GM product because you are spinning the front diff and wasting fuel Only use 4x4 Auto if the weather is crap. Ford is different because it does not engage the front diff in auto mode saving a little fuel.
I bet that leveling system locked you out because it sensed you were on a rugged hill and it needed to stay raised so you couldn't lower it down on some rocks and get it stuck. These vehicles are getting smarter than their drivers lol
Good video! I’m glad to see the vehicles tested. I previously owned a 2001 Suburban and it did not have any of the modern traction capabilities. Just 4wd hi and lo. It was good and I never got stuck anywhere. So these newer modern vehicles have to be that much better. Though I wonder if they’ve got heavier. They look it. I will say I really do not like 22 inch wheels. I would prefer 18” wheels on this. And from this video and another Ive seen I would probably much prefer the Yukon AT4. I think the ELSD works better than the G80 locker on the Chevy.
Yea, I had a 00 suburban 4x4 with the rear locker and it would do better than other suvs and pickups in 4wd while in 2wd with just the rear auto locker .
They want you to think newer is better, that’s what the marketing department tells you. But really, they do everything they can to cut cost out of their parts, replacing mechanical lockers with electronic imposters, outsourcing to foreign suppliers, and the thing that suffers is performance, quality, capability, reliability and longevity. After all, the sooner it breaks the sooner you need to buy a new one. I really think “they don’t make them the way they used to.”
You think things are high now? Wait until Biden raises taxes on every single thing you and use and do. Don’t think for on moment those stimulus checks were free either! Inflation is gonna be killer this year on everything except your pay.
@@LethalDentCompany taxes are going to be higher regardless of who is in office with the pandemic and everything going on. If you think it would be only Biden that would raise taxes you’re a fool
Cylinder deactivation has been perfected. The issue with the gas V8 is massive fuel consumption even with deactivating cylinders. The diesel is the way to go. They need to bring the 2.7t gas motor to the Tahoe.
Makes me even more amazed at how the Land Cruiser just walked over this like it was nothing. That air suspension certainly doesn't provide a lot of suspension travel.
Hi, thank you for the review. I had an experience with a Rengrover sport 2008, when I tried to raise the car like the third time it was overheated! and available, but it was summertime. The two other cars that I had never faced an issue with the suspensions were Lexus LX, and Mercedes.
Same thing happened a couple years ago when I test drove a 2006 range rover full size supercharged, raised and lowered ut a couple times then said overheated and unavailable
I have had vehicles that had both a wireless charger for my phone and CarPlay but the system just feels either broken or incomplete if the CarPlay is not wireless. There was absolutely no point in using the wireless charger if my phone had to be connected anyway to run the infotainment. I am happy to see this function make its way into more and more mainstream cars. Hopefully as more automakers implement wireless CarPlay, it will become less janky.
Looked at one at the dealership. While it does look more upscale, it doesn’t feel so upscale when you touch the surfaces. Lots o’ flimsy plastics in it. The glovebox door feels like it could break if you’re not careful with it.
I waited for this body style to finally show up and spent quite a bit of time test driving this vehicle and went with a 2020 instead. Cost was a major player in this decision but the excessive use of worthless technology that has no place or purpose in a car was over the top expensive BS. Even the base model 21’ has many of the gizmos I have no use for. The deal breaker was the auto start stop along with the push button transmission setup. I’m quite happy with my 2020 suburban and the additional 15k in my pocket.
Per the air suspension issue at the end... never ever had such an issue on Jeep WK2 trailhawk, it always goes up and down and I've beat that thing up on trails a lot more than what you showed.
I think it's fine for a truck, given it's more utility-based purposes. That and people have said GM just wanted to get their redesigned trucks to market early, so skimped on the interior design since something more along the lines of this Tahoe will be coming soon.
This did come after the Silverado which means I think they’ve learned their lesson when it comes to designing trucks and cars. These don’t even look like GM interiors.
I am by no means an ergonomics expert but I think I can understand the transmission shifter logic. Park, Neutral are a push motion….seems natural. Reverse and Drive require some reasonable thought and a deliberate finger motion to engage. Yes I prefer column or floor shifters but electronic shifters are pretty much the wave of the future. I do like that they placed the shifter on the dashboard instead of the center console. Keeping away from console should pretty much eliminate all risk of shifter damage….ie…..(liquid spillage and short out).
The E-LSD that's already available in the Yukon needs to be made available in the Tahoe and Suburban. The mechanical one in the Chevy trucks takes too long to engage.
Simply the best large SUVs on the market. These are also the premium luxury vehicles they are meant to be. There is simply nothing else in segment as good.
They can be had for 7-8% off already, if you are willing to travel and aren't picky on color. I'm considering the 3.0 Duramax on these. As a buy and hold type, I'm concerned about the durability of the V-8s with the cylinder deactivation.
I would never pay that much. Every time I see one going down the road, I think there goes $1100-1200 a month not including insurance. A 7 year payment might bring it down, but I don't want to roll that bad. I rather get an used 2015 ESV Escalade for 35k.
Are you sure the air suspension wasn't just locked because you were in 4 LO and raised the car to its max ground clearance setting? Once at max, the air suspension has no travel (except down) to perform the "levelling" feature.
The traction control behaviour is about what I would expect. 4Auto is nothing special, it just controls the coupling in the transfer case that sends power to the front axle, nothing more. Most of these programs for 4Auto are pretty sophisticated and would be acting as if in 4hi in a situation like that. The reason it looked worse in 4lo is that it turned off traction control it seems.
@@fordrac1ng81 The Hyundai palisade it's not a minivan.its a midsize suv and the tahoe is a large suv. But the chevy does not offer rear cooled seats and its price tag is 70k and the palisade which is 20k less offers that option.
@@aliqureshi6534 you are not even close to being correct.. Mini van Hyundai " Girl Truck " hence vented seats.. Money in Tahoe off roading towing .. power when loaded.. Man truck... stick with your girl truck since that's what you understand..
Watched it, for the sake of watching my friend Ryan Douthit. Nothing more, nothing less lol American transportation, not my thing.. But, I give it to you Ryan, for staying Neutral.. Meaning, you Sir, are awesome at what you do..
Great sellers too! The Chevrolet Tahoe and Suburban, the GMC Yukon and Yukon XL, and the Cadillac Escalade account for 50% of all large SUV sales in the US. GM makes 340,000 of them every year and exports about 80,000 to 31 countries. They’re made in GM’s plant in Arlington, Texas, which is said to be the most profitable assembly plant in the world. We estimate they generate $20 billion in revenue for GM and about $4 billion in profits. Autoline Daily.
Correct me if I am wrong, it is my understanding that the Tahoe does not have a center diff, so no dry pavement tolerant 4WD system. The Auto is not full time four wheel drive but rather it engages the front wheels as needed. But with no center differential you will get will skid if the transfer case engages the front wheels and you're turning on dry pavement
@@tjhouston1280 Dude, The Tahoe, Yukon, and Escalade are still the same truck with the same T1 platform. The last Gen was on the K2XX platform. Same truck, same platform, and made in the same Arlington Factory. Looks sure they are difference, character not so different.
@@nihselauto I read up on these cars dude. So I know, it’s definitely changed plateform design for the last 3 generations. In fact, each generation has had an upgraded plateform. The plateforms are very similar but each one is better than the other. The only thing that has stayed the same is the lettering of each plateform which is GMT which is the designated name for all GM built body on frame vehicles. You’re right that it’s the same plateform, but in a sense it’s not. You have the current, T1XX, K2XX, 921/922, 800, and 420/430 that was on the first tahoe.
@@nihselauto their Great! The Chevrolet Tahoe and Suburban, the GMC Yukon and Yukon XL, and the Cadillac Escalade account for 50% of all large SUV sales in the US. GM makes 340,000 of them every year and exports about 80,000 to 31 countries. They’re made in GM’s plant in Arlington, Texas, which is said to be the most profitable assembly plant in the world. We estimate they generate $20 billion in revenue for GM and about $4 billion in profits. Autoline Daily.
To add to my comment below about the lack of reliability with General Motors and American cars in general, have you ever thought about doing a video that gives an explanation of why American brands are so unreliable compared to Asian counterparts? Your videos are exceptional and very detailed and I am seeing this type of video here and there on automotive review channels that explain this phenomenon.
I feel this is a misnomer. My last Asian car was a Mazda Rx-8 with a rotary engine. While it was a super fun car to drive, there were massive reliability issues with the engine not to mention the horrible gas mileage. I am now on my 4th Chevy vehicle since then with over 300,000 miles combined. I have not had a single major issue with any of them. While there can be issues with any vehicle, if you look at the latest automotive reliability surveys, GM actually does quite well.
@@mripple I agree the rotary engine was bad and discontinued for a reason, but that’s only 1 example from an otherwise superior manufacturer of reliable automobiles. And I’m always surprised to see Chevy trucks with Toyota-like high mileage, but I suspect their owners were meticulous with maintenance and probably didn’t “abuse” them beyond intended design. And many of those exceptions were fleet-maintained vehicles as well. I hope GM can maintain the type of upward trajectory that Asian manufacturers have maintained for many years. Unfortunately, it’s very long history of poor management and engineering mean it’s going to take some serious changes become a serious competitor in the market. The math doesn’t care either way.
Kind of surprised how the Tahoe performed on that hill. The Subarus had a mostly easier time. Even in comparison to other vehicles tested recently with 20"= wheels, the Tahoe under performed. Also, the the Tahoe seemed to put way too much power into the wheel with no traction.
Seems the trucks/ SUV's "Auto 4WD" is now going to a clutch style transfer case. I consider that a Heavy Duty AWD system since there are more disc/ plates to give a harder grab vs something like a Subaru's transfer clutch system. Considering today's buyers, the most those two SUVs will see is a Dirt road. If it was anything like the Toyota Sequoia, it'd be a decent system. That runs a torsen center differential, which is lockable & you and run RWD only if you choose to.
The clutch-based full-time 4WD systems have been around for years and haven proven to be reliable and stout. The Magna MP3200-series transfer cases used in GM vehicles is the same system Jeep has used in the no-2WD-mode-available Jeep Grand Cherokee for years. The only caveat with these systems is using Auto 4WD in the sand where there's constant slippage, it will lead to an overtemp condition in the t-case and the computer will disable 4WD and then you're stuck. Running in 4H or 4L instead of 4Auto will prevent that from happening since the clutch ends up fully locked with no slippage. That said, if anyone is unlucky enough to own a Ram 1500 with the BW 44-44 transfer case just plan on not using it off-road very often as even in 4L there have been problems with it not fully locking and also when you turn the engine off it actually disengages the clutch and you'll be in 2WD, even in 4L. The Magna transfer cases stay mechanically fully locked in 4H and 4L so this isn't a problem.
I think the reason for the Lsd now responsing quickly in 4L is because it turns off the traction , i am not sure if its the main the reason but i think its reason in the middle east the tahoe z71 comes standard with the ELSD like the yukon instead of the MLSD , i tried it in the desert it was okay i mean it did its job , but i kinda wish it had a locker which could have been much easier instead of waiting for the car to spin awhile
But i still choose a trd pro 4runner, cheaper, waaay more reliable and it will outlast that POS and it's a true off road legend, what you show here is for mall moms.
Why is there not a clear distinction between lane "nudging" and lane "centering"? I agree there can be a huge difference in how these features behave.. one is almost like auto pilot and the other is far from it.
Z71 has the same suspension. The only difference is that it has better AT tires with more sidewall, a different grille for better approach angle, and a couple of skid plates. The new IRS will take away some of its off road ability that the former solid rear axle was capable of, but I don't think anyone buys a Tahoe to do any serious off roading anyway. i wish they had tested the Z71 as well, the AT tires on Z71 would have been better in this scenario.
I feel so sorry for General Motors. Ever since the great recession I just can’t stop calling them government motors. There is absolutely no way I would ever buy any kind of GM product. It looks nice but for that price tag oh my goodness what a mistake that would be! The lack of consistent reliability of American brands scares the living daylights out of me. I would pay that much for a Toyota product regardless of the lack of a refresh on many of their models. People can complain all they want about that issue with Toyota, but they know there is no need to fix what is not broken and reliable.
These are huge vehicles full of tech and leather, compare Apples to apples, like to Ford Expedition and Lincoln Navigator or to Land Cruiser, not to anything else please.
Great review Ryan, and great camera placement! Also a question: as far as I know, in Chevy Silverado and GMC Sierra you cannot have the "off-road mode" in 4Lo (I think only normal mode is available in 4Lo), is that also true for the Tahoe as well?
GMC told us the e-diff acts like a locker specifically in 4Low on this vehicle. We didn’t ask Chevy. (Based on our experience, their PR person would take two weeks to get back to us and then have an unspecific answer.)
The ancient pushrod gas motors use fuel like it’s 1955 and gas is 25 cents a gallon. The 2.7t gas engine should be standard on lower trims. The Duramax should be standard on higher trims and optional on lower trims.
I don't know how many of you car guys that I have had to tell this, but Chevrolet does not have an LSD rear differential it is a g80 eaton locking differential!!!!
The documentation for the vehicle specifically states “mechanical limited slip differential.” Not saying you’re wrong, but we say LSD because that’s what Chevy tells us... and I sure didn’t see any locking action.
No. You are 100% wrong and are misleading people with your constant stating the 2021 Tahoe/GMC has a Eaton Locker. OLDER ones did, but not the new generation. It is NOT A G80 it is a Limited Slip Differential made NEW by American Axle. It is completely new and not an Eaton Locker. It is important you realize this and stop propagating incorrect info which may incorrectly influence a buyer. www.aam.com/media/story/aam-supplies-new-independent-rear-drive-axles-for-gm-full-size-suvs www.motortrend.com/news/2021-chevrolet-tahoe-and-suburban-7-t1-tech-highlights/
The dash on the Yukon Denali is totally different from Chevy shifter is different and you explained auto 4WD totally wrong. Basically it's Rear wheel drive with the front clutches engaged once rear slip is detected the front wheels are engaged. Best visual is coasting a car downhill in first gear and the clutch in let go of the clutch and the wheels will slow the car down
I think much of that lack of reliability with American brands is not only attributed to labor unions but also the availability of robotics and sourcing of product material. It’s very interesting topic at least for me.
I’m not the biggest Chevy fan but man you got to admit they have been nailing the look of their vehicles lately 😍😀👍
The trucks in particular are worse than they have ever been!!!
I love the new Chevy trucks. They are the top selling vehicle in the country in the 18-35 year old market. The Tahoe IMO looks even better than the Silverado.
When this redesign came out I thought they where ugly. The 'burban and Tahoe look nice to me, but I'm still not sold on their trucks, also they're too tall/massive looking for me.
Then again, I'm not in the market for one of these trucks so they probably don't care about my thoughts.
I hope they do to the Silverado what they did to this beauty
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Rented this new Tahoe for 3 days.. fell in love with this thing.. what a suv
Lane centering not only make your experience a lot relaxing on long driving but I do believe it saves lives as well.
We rented a GMC Denali on a recent visit to Colorado and I was very impressed with its off-road capability. While we weren't on Jeep Rubicon type trails in Moab, we did experience some rocky ascents which were maybe a bit more extreme than what was displayed in this video. My experience was that similar in Auto and the E-diff seemed to perform better than 4 Lo.
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I have subscribed to 21 car channels
TFL is the worst channel.
I had an 02 Silverado, Z71 4x4 with Eaton locking rear diff. That truck made it through every terrain possible, oh how I miss it.
The Rear suspension very close to the ground .
Yeah. It is so low. There is no way that’s 10”
@@QuadView the z71 can add up to 4-6 inches (I COuld be wrong) it looks very tall in off-road setting.
@@QuadView they don't count axels in ground clearance middle of the body to the ground
@@melanaa15 the Z71 airbag suspension is identical height to this. And the suspension pushes the body away from the ground not the suspension components .
@@ThunderCat19D and that’s crap. Get hung up on that LCA. The lowest part should be the number.
Not that it really matters but the binding in traditional 4wd systems occurs because the front and rear are locked together, not due to the left/right being locked together. Definitely would like to see more auto 4wd on pickups though, sometimes even rain is enough to get the rear tires to light up without any weight in the bed. One of my favorite features of my limited 4Runner is the full time 4WD with a 2 speed transfer case.
Auto 4WD/full-time 4WD is awesome, I love it in my GMC Canyon during the winter. I just can't see myself buying a 4WD vehicle that doesn't have full-time 4WD now. I'm happy to see that more full-size trucks are being offered with it as well.
I took my Canyon to Colorado (San Juan mountains) and was very impressed with how well it did, between the Falken Wildpeak A/T3w tires and the G80 rear locker it was pretty effortless.
Auto 4wd is optional on the current diesel silverado and Sierra, even the dually sometimes have it
@@shanet7511 auto 4WD has been out on gm trucks since 2002. Had it on my 2002 avalanche Z71 my 06 suburban Z71 and my gmc qradrasteer sierra
@@ThunderCat19D It's been out longer than 2002, however up until the recent generation it was not available on the 2500HD and up trucks.
Im a Land Cruiser guy, but nice to see GM step up their game. This SUV is a very big improvement from the previous model in comfort and quality wise. One thing I noticed that GM should review, the rear arms and axle are too low for a off road ride, Other than that I think GM starting to take the right path. The Middle East is a big market for cars and specially for SUVs and Trucks. General Motors SUVs and Trucks used to be a fierce competitor with Toyota between 1970s and the beginning of 2000s in the Middle East. Now is the right time to restore glory of the American Cars Industry
Great review. Very honest feedback. I’ve been wanting the diesel but they really don’t make it worth while with the price and what isn’t included. Appreciate this review.
I much prefer the classic colum mounted shifter
I agree 100 % with you, they followed the bad trend of rotary selectors and push buttons for gear shifting.....It takes time to be used to it.
The past two vehicles I have owned (FCA and Jaguar) both have had the round turn dial shifter, and I have to say that I absolutely love it, and would not like anything other at this point. Not so much when its on the dash, but down on the center console next to your hand. it is effortless to shift and very natural feeling. I'm not sure if Chevy will keep this design for very long, as so many people have voiced dislike for it. but perhaps it just takes time to get used to it? time will tell.
@@Dan-ks9zd I wouldn’t mind a dial but buttons is completely inconvenient. They need to fire whoever came up with that design feature.
@@MohamedAbdallahCherif After 10 months of hving mine its not too bad, I don't even look at it anymore LOL.
@@melanaa15
Good but it took you a while to get used to this weird configuration.
They should have sticked to the column shifter or on the console like the Escalade.
The Auto 4x4 the GM works wonders in various surfaces it’s a light or heavy on traction as needed We love it!
I'm here in Feb. 2024... have an old (2012) Yukon SLT 4WD that doesn't have low range but does have an AUTO selection which I've found to be excellent for just about anything. Usually in my commute I just keep it in 2WD but with any inclement weather AUTO is great as it is for light off-roading/camping. For winter months I switch out my 22" rims/tires for a set of 17s I picked up on the cheap with AT/all-weather snow rated tires. The tech in current models has come a long way but my 3rd Gen Yukon now has 212k miles and is still going strong for all I ask it to do.
Good day
I purchased Z71 and now I have it for 1 year. During this year I took it for maintenace several times.once for hydraulic jumping, another time because computer had some problem recently petrol gage was not working and some sound was coming from front tyre while turning.otherwise it is comfortable.
That auto 4wd mode has been available in GM trucks/SUVs since the late 90s....
I have the auto 4wd on my 2006 chevy.. runs super stable on wet roads when there is heavy rain..
I have it on my 99 chevy tahoe. Its great for snowy roads.
Either Im confused or he is. I always thought the Auto mode would automatically activate 4wd IF the vehicle senses excessive slipping. HE seems to think its an AWD sort of thing (which it may be in these newer trucks). I still love my 09 Denali. No selector. All time AWD. Lets face it, were not going muddin in our denalis, SNOW on the other hand... bring on the AWD!
@@Mazord06 Here is how 4x4 Auto works
4x4 Low everything is engaged and the transfer case is in low gear front hubs locked
4x4 High everything is engaged and the transfer case is in high gear front hubs locked
4x4 Auto Transfer case in high gear front hubs disengaged ( Auto locks front hubs when slip detected)
Never leave your vehicle in 4x4 Auto on a GM product because you are spinning the front diff and wasting fuel
Only use 4x4 Auto if the weather is crap.
Ford is different because it does not engage the front diff in auto mode saving a little fuel.
I have auto on my 2005 Sierra Z71 and I love it!!!
Always good reviews.
2:04 - I think you should always tell people your height, i.e. for comparison...
(this might be their first time watching).
I bet that leveling system locked you out because it sensed you were on a rugged hill and it needed to stay raised so you couldn't lower it down on some rocks and get it stuck. These vehicles are getting smarter than their drivers lol
That was my thought. Or the combination of off-road and/or hill descent locks you out of that control until the incline is more level.
the actual off road starts from 10:01 your welcome🙃
You did a fabulous job reviewing this vehicle. I learned quite a bit andvI might consider a tahoe the next time I purchase a new vehicle.
Love your videos truly enjoy watching your revuew 👍👍👍😊
I've been driving my '21 Tahoe Z71 from St. George, UT to Houston, TX three times/year. It's a highway cruise liner.
Good video! I’m glad to see the vehicles tested. I previously owned a 2001 Suburban and it did not have any of the modern traction capabilities. Just 4wd hi and lo. It was good and I never got stuck anywhere. So these newer modern vehicles have to be that much better. Though I wonder if they’ve got heavier. They look it. I will say I really do not like 22 inch wheels. I would prefer 18” wheels on this. And from this video and another Ive seen I would probably much prefer the Yukon AT4. I think the ELSD works better than the G80 locker on the Chevy.
Yea, I had a 00 suburban 4x4 with the rear locker and it would do better than other suvs and pickups in 4wd while in 2wd with just the rear auto locker .
They want you to think newer is better, that’s what the marketing department tells you. But really, they do everything they can to cut cost out of their parts, replacing mechanical lockers with electronic imposters, outsourcing to foreign suppliers, and the thing that suffers is performance, quality, capability, reliability and longevity. After all, the sooner it breaks the sooner you need to buy a new one. I really think “they don’t make them the way they used to.”
Love the Tahoe, but it’s insane how adaptive cruise is an extra on a $70k+ price tag. Come on Chevy...
You think things are high now? Wait until Biden raises taxes on every single thing you and use and do. Don’t think for on moment those stimulus checks were free either! Inflation is gonna be killer this year on everything except your pay.
@@LethalDentCompany taxes are going to be higher regardless of who is in office with the pandemic and everything going on. If you think it would be only Biden that would raise taxes you’re a fool
@@Anomize23 keyboard warrior.
@@LethalDentCompany what did you smoke before posting this
Excellent video and review as usual. Well done Rayn !!!! 🏁
Thank you, I always watch your videos before choosing the car!!!
Cylinder deactivation causes the lifters to turn in the housing and wears the cam out
Cylinder deactivation has been perfected. The issue with the gas V8 is massive fuel consumption even with deactivating cylinders. The diesel is the way to go. They need to bring the 2.7t gas motor to the Tahoe.
Technology is the reason why you buy extended warranties
The best test! very good, congrats!
rear suspension is a major concerned, you will be wiping all the rocks when you are moving
if you get the z71 its no problem (:
Makes me even more amazed at how the Land Cruiser just walked over this like it was nothing. That air suspension certainly doesn't provide a lot of suspension travel.
This generation I like the look of the Tahoe better than the Yukon, which surprised me
You forgot to mention the new rear suspension
Hi, thank you for the review.
I had an experience with a Rengrover sport 2008, when I tried to raise the car like the third time it was overheated! and available, but it was summertime.
The two other cars that I had never faced an issue with the suspensions were Lexus LX, and Mercedes.
Same thing happened a couple years ago when I test drove a 2006 range rover full size supercharged, raised and lowered ut a couple times then said overheated and unavailable
I think it locks the ride height in 4 low mode.
I have had vehicles that had both a wireless charger for my phone and CarPlay but the system just feels either broken or incomplete if the CarPlay is not wireless. There was absolutely no point in using the wireless charger if my phone had to be connected anyway to run the infotainment. I am happy to see this function make its way into more and more mainstream cars. Hopefully as more automakers implement wireless CarPlay, it will become less janky.
Looked at one at the dealership. While it does look more upscale, it doesn’t feel so upscale when you touch the surfaces. Lots o’ flimsy plastics in it. The glovebox door feels like it could break if you’re not careful with it.
The best feature to add for off road is "anti-scratch". I got Sierra Pin Stripes on all my vehicles.
I waited for this body style to finally show up and spent quite a bit of time test driving this vehicle and went with a 2020 instead. Cost was a major player in this decision but the excessive use of worthless technology that has no place or purpose in a car was over the top expensive BS. Even the base model 21’ has many of the gizmos I have no use for. The deal breaker was the auto start stop along with the push button transmission setup. I’m quite happy with my 2020 suburban and the additional 15k in my pocket.
Per the air suspension issue at the end... never ever had such an issue on Jeep WK2 trailhawk, it always goes up and down and I've beat that thing up on trails a lot more than what you showed.
It locks the suspension when in 4 low and off-road mode. You can't level the ride height when the bags are maxed out
Your 3rd test was with the 2nd row pushed all the way back, if you can fit then it can only get better by sliding the second row forwards.
The best feature to add for off road is "anti-scratch".
Do the 2021 Armada next please
I love taho... It's really laxury car.. And comfort, and elegant
I like your video very well explained everything
If I was rich, this would be my car.
Americans really stepped up their game, RESPECT !!!
Very good and detail review. Thank you much!
should've had a tougher test on the awd system!!!
Regarding the leveling system, maybe it just needs a minute or two on level/even ground to get its bearings again?
Agreed, also probably needs some speed above 1 or 2 mph on level ground to recalibrate
I like the camera angles. I can imagine what it looks like in person. with the bumper, wheels, and dashboard
What amazes me is that Chevy and GM can do such a pleasing interior in Tahoe, and such a plasticky garbage interior in Silverado. Very strange.
I think it's fine for a truck, given it's more utility-based purposes. That and people have said GM just wanted to get their redesigned trucks to market early, so skimped on the interior design since something more along the lines of this Tahoe will be coming soon.
Truck vs high end suv
Doesn’t bother me one bit, it’s a truck
This did come after the Silverado which means I think they’ve learned their lesson when it comes to designing trucks and cars. These don’t even look like GM interiors.
Well it is a fucking pickup truck. It’s a no it’s not strange at all
GMC Yukon looks great
For that kind of money I would expect a better 4x4 system. I do like think the look of the brown seats and wood trim look nice though.
I am by no means an ergonomics expert but I think I can understand the transmission shifter logic. Park, Neutral are a push motion….seems natural. Reverse and Drive require some reasonable thought and a deliberate finger motion to engage. Yes I prefer column or floor shifters but electronic shifters are pretty much the wave of the future. I do like that they placed the shifter on the dashboard instead of the center console. Keeping away from console should pretty much eliminate all risk of shifter damage….ie…..(liquid spillage and short out).
The E-LSD that's already available in the Yukon needs to be made available in the Tahoe and Suburban. The mechanical one in the Chevy trucks takes too long to engage.
Simply the best large SUVs on the market. These are also the premium luxury vehicles they are meant to be. There is simply nothing else in segment as good.
Lexus eats these things up. GM builds cheap junky boxes. Lexus is the real luxury brand.
The pricing is kind of ridiculous. How much would you want to spend on a car which will depreciate to almost 0 in ten years?
The pricing is ridiculous but Tahoe’s actually do hold there value pretty well
Buy Range rover or BMW Audi. They be worthless
It is a nice rig. But the 81k throws me off.
But this thing is beautiful. The 6.2 is a beast.
And yet people will buy it and go into debt, just to “impress” someone.
They can be had for 7-8% off already, if you are willing to travel and aren't picky on color. I'm considering the 3.0 Duramax on these. As a buy and hold type, I'm concerned about the durability of the V-8s with the cylinder deactivation.
I would never pay that much. Every time I see one going down the road, I think there goes $1100-1200 a month not including insurance. A 7 year payment might bring it down, but I don't want to roll that bad. I rather get an used 2015 ESV Escalade for 35k.
@@garymehorczyk1017 Then you must not be American!
19 miles on one gallon wow bro that is cool
Although they're both the same, the GMC gets my vote because I like the front better especially that big grill.
Are you sure the air suspension wasn't just locked because you were in 4 LO and raised the car to its max ground clearance setting? Once at max, the air suspension has no travel (except down) to perform the "levelling" feature.
The traction control behaviour is about what I would expect. 4Auto is nothing special, it just controls the coupling in the transfer case that sends power to the front axle, nothing more. Most of these programs for 4Auto are pretty sophisticated and would be acting as if in 4hi in a situation like that. The reason it looked worse in 4lo is that it turned off traction control it seems.
70k and no rear vented seats. The palisade is 20k less and offers rear cooled seats
Palisade is a minivan, not in the same class as this
@@fordrac1ng81 The Hyundai palisade it's not a minivan.its a midsize suv and the tahoe is a large suv. But the chevy does not offer rear cooled seats and its price tag is 70k and the palisade which is 20k less offers that option.
It’s the power... 420 hp n 460 torque is the difference! It’s the power that I wanted.
@@aliqureshi6534 you are not even close to being correct.. Mini van Hyundai " Girl Truck " hence vented seats.. Money in Tahoe off roading towing .. power when loaded.. Man truck... stick with your girl truck since that's what you understand..
Best cars Reviewer ever
Watched it, for the sake of watching my friend Ryan Douthit. Nothing more, nothing less lol
American transportation, not my thing.. But, I give it to you Ryan, for staying Neutral.. Meaning, you Sir, are awesome at what you do..
Tahoe vs Yukon similarities is not news. It's been that way for 30 years.
Great sellers too!
The Chevrolet Tahoe and Suburban, the GMC Yukon and Yukon XL, and the Cadillac Escalade account for 50% of all large SUV sales in the US. GM makes 340,000 of them every year and exports about 80,000 to 31 countries. They’re made in GM’s plant in Arlington, Texas, which is said to be the most profitable assembly plant in the world. We estimate they generate $20 billion in revenue for GM and about $4 billion in profits. Autoline Daily.
Diesel test drive soon?
Correct me if I am wrong, it is my understanding that the Tahoe does not have a center diff, so no dry pavement tolerant 4WD system. The Auto is not full time four wheel drive but rather it engages the front wheels as needed. But with no center differential you will get will skid if the transfer case engages the front wheels and you're turning on dry pavement
Can't Wait To Get One !
Great review!
The Yukon, Tahoe, and Escalade has been the same vehicle for years and built on the same platform. Only thing that differentiate them is the interior.
That’s DEFINITELY not true💀. Their looks have definitely changed over the years.
@@tjhouston1280 Dude, The Tahoe, Yukon, and Escalade are still the same truck with the same T1 platform. The last Gen was on the K2XX platform. Same truck, same platform, and made in the same Arlington Factory. Looks sure they are difference, character not so different.
@@nihselauto I read up on these cars dude. So I know, it’s definitely changed plateform design for the last 3 generations. In fact, each generation has had an upgraded plateform. The plateforms are very similar but each one is better than the other. The only thing that has stayed the same is the lettering of each plateform which is GMT which is the designated name for all GM built body on frame vehicles. You’re right that it’s the same plateform, but in a sense it’s not. You have the current, T1XX, K2XX, 921/922, 800, and 420/430 that was on the first tahoe.
@@nihselauto their Great!
The Chevrolet Tahoe and Suburban, the GMC Yukon and Yukon XL, and the Cadillac Escalade account for 50% of all large SUV sales in the US. GM makes 340,000 of them every year and exports about 80,000 to 31 countries. They’re made in GM’s plant in Arlington, Texas, which is said to be the most profitable assembly plant in the world. We estimate they generate $20 billion in revenue for GM and about $4 billion in profits. Autoline Daily.
To add to my comment below about the lack of reliability with General Motors and American cars in general, have you ever thought about doing a video that gives an explanation of why American brands are so unreliable compared to Asian counterparts? Your videos are exceptional and very detailed and I am seeing this type of video here and there on automotive review channels that explain this phenomenon.
I feel this is a misnomer. My last Asian car was a Mazda Rx-8 with a rotary engine. While it was a super fun car to drive, there were massive reliability issues with the engine not to mention the horrible gas mileage. I am now on my 4th Chevy vehicle since then with over 300,000 miles combined. I have not had a single major issue with any of them. While there can be issues with any vehicle, if you look at the latest automotive reliability surveys, GM actually does quite well.
@@mripple I agree the rotary engine was bad and discontinued for a reason, but that’s only 1 example from an otherwise superior manufacturer of reliable automobiles. And I’m always surprised to see Chevy trucks with Toyota-like high mileage, but I suspect their owners were meticulous with maintenance and probably didn’t “abuse” them beyond intended design. And many of those exceptions were fleet-maintained vehicles as well. I hope GM can maintain the type of upward trajectory that Asian manufacturers have maintained for many years. Unfortunately, it’s very long history of poor management and engineering mean it’s going to take some serious changes become a serious competitor in the market. The math doesn’t care either way.
I fully agree with Bee Cars, the Chevy's reliability concerns me, but the look is so good!
Kind of surprised how the Tahoe performed on that hill. The Subarus had a mostly easier time. Even in comparison to other vehicles tested recently with 20"= wheels, the Tahoe under performed. Also, the the Tahoe seemed to put way too much power into the wheel with no traction.
The Subaru performed at it's limit. Hammer the throttle in. Subaru and that CVT will scream
Subaru is the worst car ever created 😂
The "auto" 4WD is 2WD, no? If wheel slip is detected, only then will the transfer case engage making it 4WD. Is this how it works?
Not to be ignorant, but the option for messaging seats for driver and passenger are available on the Tahoe.
Seems the trucks/ SUV's "Auto 4WD" is now going to a clutch style transfer case. I consider that a Heavy Duty AWD system since there are more disc/ plates to give a harder grab vs something like a Subaru's transfer clutch system. Considering today's buyers, the most those two SUVs will see is a Dirt road.
If it was anything like the Toyota Sequoia, it'd be a decent system. That runs a torsen center differential, which is lockable & you and run RWD only if you choose to.
The clutch-based full-time 4WD systems have been around for years and haven proven to be reliable and stout. The Magna MP3200-series transfer cases used in GM vehicles is the same system Jeep has used in the no-2WD-mode-available Jeep Grand Cherokee for years. The only caveat with these systems is using Auto 4WD in the sand where there's constant slippage, it will lead to an overtemp condition in the t-case and the computer will disable 4WD and then you're stuck. Running in 4H or 4L instead of 4Auto will prevent that from happening since the clutch ends up fully locked with no slippage. That said, if anyone is unlucky enough to own a Ram 1500 with the BW 44-44 transfer case just plan on not using it off-road very often as even in 4L there have been problems with it not fully locking and also when you turn the engine off it actually disengages the clutch and you'll be in 2WD, even in 4L. The Magna transfer cases stay mechanically fully locked in 4H and 4L so this isn't a problem.
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I just love your content........
I think the reason for the Lsd now responsing quickly in 4L is because it turns off the traction , i am not sure if its the main the reason but i think its reason in the middle east the tahoe z71 comes standard with the ELSD like the yukon instead of the MLSD , i tried it in the desert it was okay i mean it did its job , but i kinda wish it had a locker which could have been much easier instead of waiting for the car to spin awhile
Really nice review
Hoping to see more of the ELSD on the Yukon in action more.
But i still choose a trd pro 4runner, cheaper, waaay more reliable and it will outlast that POS and it's a true off road legend, what you show here is for mall moms.
These did as well and gets better fuel economy!
Why is there not a clear distinction between lane "nudging" and lane "centering"? I agree there can be a huge difference in how these features behave.. one is almost like auto pilot and the other is far from it.
That rear suspension arms hang ridiculously low, can be seen even from the front of vehicle. Next time may be you should try the more appropriate Z71?
Z71 has the same suspension. The only difference is that it has better AT tires with more sidewall, a different grille for better approach angle, and a couple of skid plates. The new IRS will take away some of its off road ability that the former solid rear axle was capable of, but I don't think anyone buys a Tahoe to do any serious off roading anyway. i wish they had tested the Z71 as well, the AT tires on Z71 would have been better in this scenario.
Love the video, like the truck, hate the price.
it looks pretty good but i'm still gonna go with the 2021 lincoln aviator cause it just has a little bit more power and room to breath.
best van silverado sister and very beautiful
would have been good to see the Yukon off road lol
I feel so sorry for General Motors. Ever since the great recession I just can’t stop calling them government motors. There is absolutely no way I would ever buy any kind of GM product. It looks nice but for that price tag oh my goodness what a mistake that would be! The lack of consistent reliability of American brands scares the living daylights out of me. I would pay that much for a Toyota product regardless of the lack of a refresh on many of their models. People can complain all they want about that issue with Toyota, but they know there is no need to fix what is not broken and reliable.
these r secret service vehicles lol .
These are huge vehicles full of tech and leather, compare Apples to apples, like to Ford Expedition and Lincoln Navigator or to Land Cruiser, not to anything else please.
@@kadimsilahtar there made for the government or the Kardashians simple very few normal income people can afford these ..
Great review Ryan, and great camera placement! Also a question: as far as I know, in Chevy Silverado and GMC Sierra you cannot have the "off-road mode" in 4Lo (I think only normal mode is available in 4Lo), is that also true for the Tahoe as well?
GMC told us the e-diff acts like a locker specifically in 4Low on this vehicle. We didn’t ask Chevy. (Based on our experience, their PR person would take two weeks to get back to us and then have an unspecific answer.)
Wish they could fit the Duramax in that AT4.
You’re gonna want that duramax
The ancient pushrod gas motors use fuel like it’s 1955 and gas is 25 cents a gallon. The 2.7t gas engine should be standard on lower trims. The Duramax should be standard on higher trims and optional on lower trims.
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Its cost is aed300k which is the cost of a reasonable studio in UAE.
I don't know how many of you car guys that I have had to tell this, but Chevrolet does not have an LSD rear differential it is a g80 eaton locking differential!!!!
The documentation for the vehicle specifically states “mechanical limited slip differential.” Not saying you’re wrong, but we say LSD because that’s what Chevy tells us... and I sure didn’t see any locking action.
No. You are 100% wrong and are misleading people with your constant stating the 2021 Tahoe/GMC has a Eaton Locker. OLDER ones did, but not the new generation.
It is NOT A G80 it is a Limited Slip Differential made NEW by American Axle. It is completely new and not an Eaton Locker. It is important you realize this and stop propagating incorrect info which may incorrectly influence a buyer.
www.aam.com/media/story/aam-supplies-new-independent-rear-drive-axles-for-gm-full-size-suvs
www.motortrend.com/news/2021-chevrolet-tahoe-and-suburban-7-t1-tech-highlights/
like them ,but no more G80 solid rear axle , not a fan of indpendent rear suspension, now one has to do a rear wheel alinement?
I watched another you tube channel that tested the new GMC Yukon versus the Chevy Silverado Trail Boss. The Yukon kicked Chevy's ass in 2wd vs 4wd
The dash on the Yukon Denali is totally different from Chevy shifter is different and you explained auto 4WD totally wrong. Basically it's Rear wheel drive with the front clutches engaged once rear slip is detected the front wheels are engaged. Best visual is coasting a car downhill in first gear and the clutch in let go of the clutch and the wheels will slow the car down
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I think much of that lack of reliability with American brands is not only attributed to labor unions but also the availability of robotics and sourcing of product material. It’s very interesting topic at least for me.