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CMV-22B Ospreys join the Fleet with "Flesh" (ep. 157)
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- Опубліковано 18 сер 2024
- #usnavy Captain and Fleet Logistics Multi-Mission Wing Commodore Sam "Flesh" Bryant describes how the introduction of the CMV-22B #osprey as a replacement for the C-2A Greyhound is changing the nature of #aircraftcarrier operations and, specifically, the carrier onboard delivery (#cod) mission.
0:00 The hook
0:36 Flesh introduction
3:25 CMV-22B compared to other Osprey models
7:57 CMV-22B compared to the C-2A
12:02 Mission creep for the CMV-22B
23:55 Photo review
38:45 Listener questions
56:16 Future of the CMV-22B
58:28 Wrap up
1:00:21 Callsign story
1:01:30 Credits
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Original music by Jaime Lopez. Video produced by Kevin Harold of Showgun Media.
Great to see Sam interviewed. My USNA roommate and one of my best friends. One of the planet’s best humans and a hell of a Naval Officer.
Learned a lot in that interview, great job, super questions. Have to say the Captain didn't look old enough to have 27 years in. Sadly in 2000 we lost a V-22 in front of my Arizona hangar. A memorial was built at the airport dedicated to the 19 brave Marines.
That was a great episode. By happy accident I was on the Dog beach of NASNI with my wife and kids to witness the arrival of the first CMV-22. It’s great to hear the program going so well.
How funny! I was up on the NASNI beach that day.
These CMV-22’s are going to get a lot more tasking than my beloved Greyhounds. They will kiss every deck they can fit on in the battle group and more. No more I-phones being ejected from hands during cat strokes either!
Yep, that all comes up in the discussion.
these interviews are amazing I love what you are doing and the new video format for the podcast
excellent interview! Flesh was really interesting and seems like he must be an excellent commander.
Podcast is looking and sounding great, Jell-o! Proud of you and the bros. Drag sunshine back out of the desert for an episode if u can!
Awesome guest. I didn't think I would care that much about CMV-22s but this was another excellent conversation.
Outstanding content. There is so much to unpack in here, and I really appreciate you covering the operational and training aspects of onboarding new capabilities, which many who aren't in the military/aviation community tend not to think about.
You're welcome. I enjoy hosting these discussions because I learn so much.
Would love to see CMV22 do a cross deck deployment on our QE carriers. Such an awesome aircraft
I grew up in Niceville Florida right in the middle of Eglin air force base. The largest air force base in the country and one thing that people that have never been around a low flying osprey might not realize is how quiet it is when it's flying like an aircraft compared to say a Blackhawk or other rotorcraft. You almost can't hear it until it's on top of you.
"Jell-O", can't wait to hear "FLESH", a great former Grumman C-2A(R) Greyhound dude. He knows both. Great to get a better inside view of the new COD mission.
Indeed. Only a couple days away!
@@FighterPilotPodcast It was such great interview. Remind me to the great interview with my friend JLO of the C-2 Greyhound Fighter Pilot Podcast Episod. "FLESH" showed quite well the difference between these two platforms and the future mission for the CMV-22B. Happy to see both here at NAS North Island. Again, thanks for these interview!
When the British Jump team Red Devils were at Oceana air show, they used a C-2 as their jump ship.
A whole world in the New use of CMV-22B for Navy carrier operations...
I'm former ATO on the Kitty Hawk, and I loaded/unloaded C-2s (Det 5!) every day for months. This podcast was interesting, scratched my ATO itch. Because these are smaller, they are probably quicker to turn around on deck. Normal PAX load on a C-2 was 22, 6 rows of seats. Baggage went up front, in the side door. C-2s couldnt fly pax at night, but we did do night log hits for pure cargo every now and then.
I wonder if the Capt talked to the minehunter squadrons that fly the MH-53E, those guys fly log hits out to carriers sometimes, particularly in the Persian Gulf.
True, I once got a ride on an MH-53! Those things are beasts.
Great interview! Thanks for defining terms for those of us who've never been in the Navy.
You're welcome. 😉
Loved the episode despite me being late to the show. BTW, I took the picture at the 4:19 mark and the 4:06 mark :)
Nice!
Great interview to hear about where the CMV-22 fleet is heading.
I thought I read recently about V-22s filling a tanker roll. Maybe that was the MV-22
Correct.
nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/aerial-refueling-brings-v-22-osprey-whole-new-level-198974
Berger stopped funding VARS back in FY2020. Hopefully the next Commandant will correct that and many of his other mistakes.
@@FighterPilotPodcast there was talk of trying to add a large radar and turning into a hawkeye of sorts, any news on this, or is it even feasible or worthwhile, seeing land-based awacs or hawkeyes from a strike carrier might instead be used.
@@martinclennon4640 I have not heard of such an endeavor but perhaps someone else in the YouTubiverse knows something...
I loved the "pros from Dover" remark, a nod to the book, and the movie, M.A.S.H.
Love the new high speed look and format, NICE!
Ive listened to you for years driving to and from school. You look cooler than i thought you would!
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Great insight on air operations that are important but not usually discussed in depth.
first time listener...extremely informative...will sub for future podcasts
There was a small group of Army Aviators in the late 80s who wanted in on the Osprey. They were out voted. Years later seeing them in Anbar Province everyone saw the benefits to high altitude/high speed/long range aircraft with VTOL capability. Flying DUSTOFF in Iraq/Syria in 2016/17 I regularly saw the AFSOC Ospreys doubling our speed, tripling our range and able to fly single ship unlike us. It totally made sense for the Army to replace the Blackhawk with the new Bell Valor. Thanks again for your channel. "Tadpole".
Good stuff, Tadpole! 💪
Thank gosh the Sikorsky SB-1 Defiant didn't squeak out a win over the V-280 Valor - it would have offered less of the capabilities the Bell Valor can do, mainly in speed and DEFINITELY range
The Army bailed on the V-22 and then spent nearly $8 billion of R&D money on the Comanche only to cancel it.
Great episode J’ello! Really enjoying the new format, music, and visuals!
Great Interview 👍Enjoyed it. Thanks
Enjoyed that, Jello. Always great to learn about a "new" airframe and mission. Flesh was great at explaining the detail around the aircraft and mission. Definitely a fantastic guest.
I'm surprised that there was no talk of an ASW mission. With "modularity" being the buzz these days, the airframe seems ripe for a plug and play modular mission set wheeled directly in that cavernous hold. Time on station, speed, loiter, expanded stores etc with the ability to dip just like a Romeo, it seems like the Osprey would be a great ASW asset.
Did you happen to talk to Flesh about this off air by any chance?
Loving the video format its amazing
Thanks!
I’m glad “Flesh” mentioned basically avoid ad hoc mission sets . Train for eventuality to qualify for adding to the tool ,to the tool box. Basically don’t be a tool.
Thank you both for your service.🇺🇸
Love this interview, makes me hope to see one with a v-280 pilot someday.
That was another outstanding interview!!!
Loved this interview! Also love seeing them fly around Amarillo! And if my ears aren’t messing with me I think there’s a slight consistent beep throughout the podcast.
BZ Jell-O. The FPP Team is killing it.
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Thanks for another great episode, Jello and crew!
Thank you for this interview. Love the logistics
Interesting discussion. The V-22 was designed as a combat capable aircraft. The plane can do way more than logistics
did we suggest otherwise?
Did some work on tiltrotor aircraft research at NASA/Ames - it's great to see these aircraft reach the fleet. Any idea how many traps Capt. Bryant accumulated during those 3000 hrs flying time?
He says during the interview
I got to tour the place in Amarillo as a boy scout in the 2000's. That got me into aviation at a young age but between my eyes and other issues I could never fly
Interesting the extra lubrication needed to rotate the engines. Wonder how much advantage the V-280 will have having fixed engines
Being a Brit i am curious to now what flesh thought of HMS Queen Elizabeth. Any chance of a follow-up?
Also i really think the RN should get some Ospreys for c.o.d. capability, that or bring back the Gannets (please bring back the Gannets) 😁
The Gannets need cats and traps to get off and on the boat so that isn't going to happen.
@AA the QE"s are biilt for, but not with, cat an trap so it could. The double mambas are more of a problem + i was saying that with tongue in cheek.
I love these new video podcasts. And everyone loves Jello.
Great interview - interesting topic/capability!
You should be outfitting a few to do anti-submarine warfare and EW / Recon platform. The range, available to deploy bouys, sonar, and weapons deployment given the weight and range.
Thank you.
The most dangerous aircraft in military inventory
I can't think of a better way to get your call sign.
Year, the right man to have at your back, and just ecactly the right man as your CO Commodore.
Three for three Jell-O. Nicely done!
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C2 is perfectly capable of deck launching loaded from carrier done many times
They should 'Rapid Dragon' from the V-22.... not just JASSM but AIM-54 Phoenix... a cargo box of 'torpedo' tubes shoving AIM-54 out the rear targeted by F-35's
Could be improved a lot. I was in VRC-30 and work with C2A (R) O, I, D level maintenance. I think there is a lot that be done Captain to be safety conscious.
I wonder what the maintainers are running up in the shop??
Totally no. Of F22 is 181. Can u pls xplain why F18 always start the right engine first and everybody else left?. Thx great show😊
Because the right engine drives more systems, and after it is running, you can turn on the DDIs to look for cautions before starting the left, like the ladder still being down.
Could someone put together some kind of side mission or reserve force that employs or utilizes recent separation personnel so they are not simply booted out and lose that whole world. Seems like a win/win . They could train people or militaries of friendly countries, etc... whatever...
What is going to replace the AWACS?
Different discussion for another day
The E-3 Sentry? E-7 Wedgetail.... maybe, most likely.
The E-2D? Nothing for the foreseeable future... maybe smaller fixed wing with high data integration.... you know, like the F35C automating the whole air picture and tasking order.
Need to know how does the v22 have yaw while in a hover.
We don't get quite that detailed.
the propeller nacelles tilt forwards and backwards very slightly (up to +-7 degrees-ish from vertical).
Has Sam flown helicopters ? even a few times ?
Good question. As stated, he piloted C-2 Greyhounds (an airplane) in the fleet.
no ROMEO's or SIERRA's on Airwing slide. hope a sub doesn't show up or you go for a swim! AWCS Ret.
It sound like it's time for the marine and navy vertical groups to merge. All your weight and volume problems would be solved with the CH-53K.
CMV22: "hey, cool, we can fit the power module"
CH-53K: "bitch please..." -.-' lifts the whole plane.
Perhaps you missed the part about range and speed, which also matters.
@@FighterPilotPodcast Of course! I didn't say, scrap the CMV, I've tried to point out that the only discrepancy is possible to complement, with already existing, and currently fielded tech.
@@lefty59th18 👍
This is one of those guys that have to answer a question with, "So,..., " or, "Yeah, so..."
Can you catapult launch an Osprey??!!
No.
Doesn't need it. It can behave like a rotary aircraft at take-off. These things are gonna be all over the West Pacific. Brilliant aircraft.
No and there's no need. They can launch at MTOW with a relatively short deck roll.
I don't know what it says about someone when they can only find "meaningful" work in a warmachine, but I don't think it's something positive.
I do not recall the context for when that comment was made but let’s be real: as long as there is more than one human on this planet, there will be conflict
@@FighterPilotPodcast You say that like it's a fact of life when it doesn't have to be. There's plenty to go around, we don't have to have conflict. Chimps can live in peace perfectly well, as long as there are enough bananas. We humans have a lot of bananas.
@@petertimowreef9085 and yet even a casual review of history reveals a continuous struggle over those bananas.
@@FighterPilotPodcast Well that just sounds like a self-fulfilling prophecy to me. We have so many bananas nowadays, all of us could live like kings and queens.
They have this 180 degrees ass backward. Develop a plane that takes off down a runway and can then transition to a chopper when needed. This thing is a Rube Goldberg masterpiece.
It's obvious there's only one Rube Goldberg in this discussion.
Good plane. Hopefully its not going to be a lemon just like F35
What’s wrong with the F-35?
@Fighter Pilot Podcast there aren't enough of them being made for the Navy and they are still flying Super Hornets! 🤣
@@Whiskey11Gaming insufficient quantity is hardly a reason to label it a lemon, and the plan was always to mix them with Super Hornets to capture the benefit of each platform
I Call BS!!!!
There is NO COMPARISON between the C2 & Osprey… This guy is a SHILL for BELL & the Military Industrial Complex!
Ask ANY Naval Aviator (esp C2 pilots) IDK how this guy can make any claims about the Osprey being comparable!!!
The C2 had 2x the range and Payload!!!
"SHILL"...?
Wow Jello these videos are amazing man ! such great production.
My son flew the Osprey to the Essex, then to Hawaii.
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