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PTSD Uncovering Under Anesthesia: A True Story
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- Опубліковано 27 гру 2022
- PTSD can happen after surgery, especially if there was any "waking up" under anesthesia (called anesthesia recall). Here's a dramatic example of PTSD being revealed from a combat veteran after surgery.
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PTSD is one of the most common complications of well intentioned medical procedures. Post traumatic stress disorder can reveal itself in patients during surgery, while they are under anesthesia. Furthermore, untreated PTSD may even cause complications. This may include self harm, harm to others, or even worsening anxiety after after anesthesia. This is especially seen in anesthesia for trauma.
In this episode, I'll share a dramatic story from a patient with combat experience who had their PTSD, previously undiagnosed, revealed on the operating room table.
This is, in part, because of the powerful mind body connection. What goes on in our minds can manifest in our physical body. that's why I connect myself to the life support monitors in this show, so you can see, on my own body, the effect mindset on our physical vital signs.
Because of the power of this mind body connection, there is also a role for healing in vulnerable situations, including surgery and anesthesia.
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Just to let you know, PTSD doesn’t only affect military and veterans. It’s not an exclusive disorder to that community. It can and does affect many, many people.
I have it from a horrible 😢 20 yr physical and mentally abusive marriage.
@@GodisLove77337, I have PTSD as well from too long of a list. I’m an RN and wanted whom ever read this to know it can happen to anyone. ❤️
@@GodisLove77337 Im sorry. I can sympathize with you and want you to know you have worth. You deserve a life with at the least normality!!
Thank you for noting this. I have cptsd and came on to this video, awaiting surgery and want to learn about what could happen in my case. I wish it wasn't just about males after military service.
@@_Julie_Bee, you’re welcome. I’m tired of people associating PTSD with men and military only. When the facts are women have higher rates of PTSD and not spoken about. My daughter just got out of the Army after 5 years and she gets treated differently than male veterans bc ppl always associate military and men. Like for example, my daughter parked at a veterans parking space and a man get going back and forth with dirty looks and was gonna say something to her. Women are overlooked with the same service and honor as male veterans. Good luck with your surgery. Speedy recovery ❤️🩹
I now understand why I came out of anesthesia sobbing for my son, a combat, Infantry Veteran. He fought in Iraq, boots on the ground, for a year. He was 19. He came home a person we didn't know. 8 to 9, years ago the VA offered no help for his PTSD. He battled it hard, lost his home, wife, son..whom he adored. We found him dead one day..he just lost the battle. Fast forward to my surgeries I have had since, 4 for different issues. Each time I come to, sobbing for him, just as I did that terrible day. I always feel so embarrassed, the nurse generally just walk away..I am going to have surgery in the Fall...I dread this. How do I prevent this from happening? The nurses are clearly unsure what to do with me. They ask if it's pain..I manage to blurt something out about my precious son. .dead..somebody help him..Once they know it's not pain related they walk away. Sometimes I feel so embarrassed and guilty for behaving like that. Other times I wish just one person would stay by me, hold my hand? IDK..it's so upsetting to have no control. Just like the moment we found him...
I am so so sorry :'( My heart is breaking for you...sending GLOW your way
Aww babes I would find yourself a compassionate nurse on your team and explain the situation. "I have PTSD from losing my son, and it is triggered under anesthesia. When I come to, can someone please be there to comfort me?"
@@jednrrp I agree. Let them know beforehand. My heart just hurts over this.
That is a very good idea. I have a procedure scheduled in May. It isn't surgical, basically just a endoscopy. But, I will be put under. Thank you for your kind words and advice.
@@losingmyboyslosingmyself Please be sure to tell them and ask for someone to help you. I am positive they will. Prayers...
I have PTSD from being kidnapped and I think I am notorious at my local hospital. I have had 10 surgeries. My notes say I get psychotic with intent to harm others after anesthesia. I'm an abduction survivor who won't even step on an ant. It's very embarrassing waking up all bruised up, hearing I am taking out full grown men. I wish I could change it. I don't ever want to hurt anyone the way I was hurt. 😢
Big hugs. I understand
Ah so sad. Hugs and prayers
😢 hugs and hope there is a way you can get help for this. Bless you and you know they understand and totally understand. 🥰 ❤
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Don’t feel bad about this. This was just you trying to protect yourself. It’s ok *hug*
I’ve had anesthesia awareness during wisdom teeth extraction. I could hear them talking. I could feel them extracting my teeth. I distinctly remember sobbing and screaming at them to STOP STOP STOP. I came to and I was crying and asking them why they didn’t stop, and they looked at me like I was absolutely crazy. They said I “never said anything”. It’s been 24 years and I can still feel the pain, and the panic in my chest that I felt during that procedure. 💔
It happened again while having a colonoscopy. I remember the doctor talking to his staff the whole time about golfing etc, only stopping to complain that I was “fat, and what a pain in the ass I was”, and how much he “hated doing procedures on fat people”. 🤬
During my first C-section, the spinal wore off before she even got to the baby. I was conscious and telling them I could feel her cutting me, and then yanking on her, felt like my insides were being ripped out. I told them it hurt and I was sobbing and asking them to please do something. They said “Oh that’s just a little tugging and pulling you are fine”. When I didn’t calm down, they “gave me something to relax” me finally, then I was drugged out of my mind until the next day. I literally don’t even remember holding my daughter. I look at the pictures and see her lying with me in bed, but I don’t remember anything other than voices in the background, and so much pain. 💔
I was so scared going into my second C-section, I told the anesthesiologist my experiences with my wisdom teeth and my first C-section and she actually believed me. She told me she was going to give me a little extra just to be sure. That she would be right there and that I shouldn’t feel anything, but if I did to squeeze her hand, or speak up. They barely got the baby out before I started feeling pain again. She told the doc to hurry up because I was regaining feeling. She gave me as much as she safely could, and I did well. I did not suffer and had no residual pain like the first time. In fact they almost had to tie me down from doing too much, by the time we left the hospital 2 1/2 days later. She told me after surgery that I metabolize anesthesia very quickly, and to always tell any anesthesiologists in the future.
Jesus I can't imagine medical professionals acting so fucking careless with your pain!
Mothers get treated as super important when it means they can sell something but when it comes to our actual treatment as pregnant women it feels like they could care less about us regardless until we've given birth 😢
I routinely had doctors withhold medical information from me because 'I would just make myself a hypochondriac over little things'
I just wanted to applaud your freaking anesthesiologist!!! Thank everything that she listened to you!!! I'm so glad that the 2nd time was so much better for you. I'm sending you a huge virtual hug right now lady ❤ I'm so glad that they started to listen to you. 💕
Oh my god I had the same thing happen to me during my wisdom teeth extraction. My dr said he’d never had a patient that it happened to and never heard of it happening..
Are you of Scottish or Norwegian ancestry? I’ve been researching this problem. There is a definite genetic link.
That's horrible! My mother had a colonoscopy where that happened as well. I also need extra anesthesia for literally anything, and if I need a prescription painkiller or muscle relaxer it has to be a powerful one or I feel nothing. I'm very lucky though that I discovered this with my very first encounter with the numbing agents at the dentist. I was having a root canal and after he injected me to deaden half of my jaw and we waited for 15 minutes all I felt was a tingly sensation. He believed me and gave me more and it worked like a charm. My first colonoscopy they had given me the anesthesia and then left the room to get things ready. I was laying there looking around and wondering if that was normal when a nurse walked in. I sat up and said "am I supposed to be feeling anything?" She jumped out of her skin and literally ran out of the room. It was very funny and a few minutes later they dosed me again. It's in my charts and I tell any dr now that I'm weirdly resistant to these things. I'm terrified that one day though it won't be enough, that it won't work.
Just last month, my 72 year old husband, who was combat vet with PTSD, went into surgery to clear his carotid artery. He was given a breathing tube and general anesthesia. When he starting waking up, he became violent and crazy. They had to repeatedly start waking him up and then putting him back to sleep for 2 days until he settled down from being violent, so they could remove the breathing tube. It was an awful time for me but really eye opening as to what happens to people with PTSD.
He will be having neck surgery soon, to remove some spurs and already I'm getting anxious about this anesthesia reaction when he gradually awakens. He has always been a very light sleeper and sometimes still checks his shoes for snakes in the morning. Vietnam did a number on him.
Vietnam was very damaging to the ones who were there. I was married to a Vietnam vet too. They sent kids who hadn't fully matured yet & threw them into horrific situations. I know it certainly changed my husband.
This is heartbreaking.
I thank you for sharing. You have more praying for you and your husband than you know, darling.
He needs Reiki... bless him.
Bless his and your heart! Thank him for me for his service! Vietnam was a war of a different kind. Because of corrupt politicians they sent our troops into a war that wasn’t ours to fight. They ruined and lost so many lives. We were not prepared to fight like that or in those conditions. I can’t imagine what these poor men saw and experienced. It breaks my heart for all the soldiers that fought in that war. I’ll pray for you and him. 🥰
I think this type of reaction is a form of hypervigilance. Certain people suffering from PTSD and trauma have to constantly check their surroundings to make sure they are safe. If they don't recognize their surroundings, I can imagine it is quite scary. I do this a lot when waking up, or if I hear a noise outside. It's from having to make sure I was constantly safe as a child.
Very very good way of explaining it.
Always after surgery, when I am awake again, the nurses and staff just stare at me in horror. I always wondered why, until I once had a flashback a month later. I remember being very sad and crying inconsolably. Years ago someone told me that they could hear me howling and crying loudly down the passage after surgery. No medical staff has ever tried to explain things to me. You are the very first person from whom I have heard about delirium after anesthesia. Tnxxxx, neh.
Yeah I had that :/
The nurses just got mad at me so they had to wheel me out the back because I was scaring people in the waiting room where they could hear me since it was a smaller office.
That shit sucks I'm sorry you had to go through it
I had delirium too. Now being home it's making my PTSD very bad
@@CaNTjOURnEeY87 I am so sorry, that you also had delirium and now PTSD. My problems did improve with time. Hopefully time is also your friend. Anti-depressant meds saved my life many times - maybe consider it?
@@artemisameretsu6905 Tnx for sharing. The fact that delirium exists and that other people were also scared of you, actually makes me feel a lot better:-) I can now tell people about me hollering and howling down the hospital wards, and have a chuckle about it.
@@questcomputer4545 I had PTSD before hand. It's just triggered and added to it unfortunately. I'm on two antidepressants right now thank you for the suggestion I appreciate it. I went via ambulance to the hospital and was quite out of it at that point, I don't remember much at all. My infection and fever was high as heck so idk. At the 1st hospital I'm assuming I had told them the medicines I was taking daily? But what happened was the surgery they had to perform on me had to be done at a different hospital so I got transferred. I'm thinking the switch in hospitals Somehow there was a hiccup and my med list was lost bc the hospital I ended up in the ICU at had no idea about them, which again I don't understand. After getting out of ICU and going to the step down section they figured out why I was hallucinating etc and Once I restarted the meds I was me again. Mind you NEVER in my life had I ever had hallucinations etc. So so scary 😞 on discharge day the doctor told me it's not uncommon to have what they call ICU delirium bc nurses are coming in all the time so you have lack of sleep all the machines etc.
My first 9 years of marriage was colored with husband's PTSD from Nam. It was disarming to say the least. That's the definition of love to me. With all the flashbacks, irrational outbursts you care for them. 52 years we're still together and taking care of each other. ❤😢😮😅 What a ride! My man and I are worth it.
Yes you are! ☺
🖤
Oh … I’m so glad you two are making it through together ❤❤❤
Cy, beautiful story. Amazing. Bless you.
I have autism and was diagnosed with PTSD 19 years ago. I always wondered why when I was woken up from anesthesia I wasn't "out of it".. I was highly alert. I remember being asked how I was and responding "Hello, good" & a nurse and anesthesiologist looking at one another, which made me wonder if it wasn't a normal way to wake up.
I'm the same way I'm immediately coherent.
Same here! I'm on the autistic spectrum and have ptsd and have ALWAYS woken up completely alert and not foggy whatsoever . It has baffled many doctors and nurses.
I do this as well. It really seems to weird the medical staff out. It is a survival instinct. We don't want to show how vulnerable we are to these strangers. We want to appear healthy and strong so they are less likely to prey on us. I find that when I stay in the hospital I cannot shut down and rest. I am hyperalert at all times. I am super polite to the nurses as I don't want to give them any reason to attack me, and my brain is always trying to find ways I could protect myself should the nurses randomly attack me.
The minute I get home from a hospital stay, and in the safety of my room with my husband nearby I shut off like a light switch and usually sleep 12 or more hours straight as keeping that state of hyperalertness for even just a day or two is exhausting.
My logical brain finds all of this both amusing and really weird. I know the nurses are not likely to hurt me, lol but my lizard brain cannot be convinced.
Nurses usually love working with me though as I am alert, articulate, I rarely need anything, I am patient and very polite to them. Lol, if only they knew it was because I didn't want to have to fight for my life against them because if I'm in the hospital I am physically very vulnerable.
@@jkishhabi seems like you, like myself, fall in the fawn category of the trauma response of fight, flight, flee and fawn. You hide your response by being pleasing and hyperaware.
I have ADHD and I'm also coherent. It's more like I woke up from sleep than anaesthesia. The only difference is I'm more grumpy and unfiltered 😂
I think he mentioned the prefrontal cortex is affected, so that makes sense!!
Someone in the room opposite had the TV on, I didn't hesitate to complain pretty loudly to my mum about it - "don't they know there's other people here too? 🤨😒" 😂
My dad was the most gentle and sweet person but was also a veteran who saw action between 51-53. After 7 hours of surgery to remove a cancerous kidney. When he woke up he punched someone and it took 5 people to control him enough to prevent him hurting himself or others. Throughout his life he would often wake from sleep startled and defensive.
Because war isn't normal.
@@wheelchairgeekTHIS.
@@wheelchairgeeki know i went through the war!
War is something you never forget!
You are so rare, a medical professional that actually cares about their patients. 👍
Stuff like this makes me feel like even though we’ve advanced as much as we have in medicine, technology and science we’re just barely scratching the surface of what we are. What a beautiful mystery.
"When we lengthen our exhalation, we get to activate more parasympathetic tone."
Thank you for this sentence alone. This will help me in everyday life.
I had PTSD after a horrific experience of anesthesia awareness. Crippling treatment-resistant symptoms for decades. 37 years later I was deeply anesthetized for joint replacement. When I awoke my PTSD symptoms were gone, never to return.
That’s where your awake under anesthesia,right? You are aware of what’s going on?
@@SarahWells777 yeah and you can't say anything cus youre completely immobile 😵💫😵💫😵💫
Wow! Good on you. Maybe I ought to book my upcoming surgery with your surgeon! I'm really happy for you, Toby~
My son was medically paralyzed and intubated, even thought he didn’t need to be, a resident said they needed to “protect his airway”, his vitals were fine, but everytime they tried to remove the tube he would fight so they had to keep putting him back under and it took 5 days to remove the tube that he never needed in the first place. He wakes up scratching at his face and has terrible PTSD from this medical trauma, he says he was aware the entire 5 days and couldn’t move. He is still suffering 5 years later, I would love it if he could somehow heal from this!
@@Shayitisntso I was in a car accident after I had seizure , I guess I was fighting the breathing tube and freaking out but had no memory and have no memory of it except sort of maybe one vague flash, I was in an induced coma for about five days but the weird part was I actually didn’t feel disturbed by it , I was conscious but not having surgery , but I thought I was awake talking to everyone just felt sort of drugged when I came to I told everyone in the room what they were saying and then they believed me at first they didn’t think i could really remember what went on. Sorry hope your son over time heals from this .
Honestly, your description of a soldier with combat PTSD waking up in the middle of anesthesia is *literally identical* to like 1 in 5 dogs on the table in my veterinary practice 😭 Jumping straight up, pulling at their endotrach tube out, trying to run off the table while two or three nurses throw themselves on you to tey and prevent it from hurting itself or someone else, throwing punches, waving their head around like a club, biting at no one and everyone, while another nurse tries to get ahold of the patients IV catheter and administer some propofol - they are legit probably also shouting the doggy-version of "Doc, I have to go fight on the front lines."
Oh, that's so heartbreaking 😢
That is wild. My dad is a veterinarian. Granted a very old school one as he’s now 70. He has a small practice and it’s just him. Me & my mom would go if he had to do a C-section to help pull and stimulate puppies so we didn’t lose any. That I loved. But I also enjoyed assisting him with most surgeries. I’ll have to ask him if he’s ever had that happen because he’s never mentioned it nor have I seen it. I wonder if it has something to do with him being an older vet and maybe he doesn’t use the same meds as younger vets? It all fascinates me.
1 in 5? And you have no proactive routine prevention plan? To prevent it from jumping off that high table, ripping out the ET tube or rupturing its stitches, tearing out the IV? I hate to be mean, but BOY, I hope you're not my dog's vet. You can't prevent that reaction but if everyone is scrambling and throwing themselves bodily on the animal, then there is poor planning and preparation that must have caused some unnecessary bad outcomes. Not to mention PTSD for the dog. I have never had a dog go to the ICU, even if fully recovered, without trauma changing its personality forever. When surgery was part of the sequence, maybe something like this was involved. Please: Do better. You wouldn't be reading this if you didn't care.
What a horrible thought, that so many dogs are that traumatized. I wish we'd collectively be more understanding and protective of the animal kingdom.
So many horrible things happen to animals. They carry trauma from it. I'm a dog rescuer in rural Kentucky aka Hell on earth for dogs.
I have PTSD from sexual assault and I always warn my doctors that if I'm not quite mentally aware and they set me off, I will fight them. I've scared the shit out of several doctors. Someone touched me the wrong way and I had my leg up to kick them within half a second. Luckily, because I warned her, she knew to back off immediately.
I'd never seen a doctor actually look *scared* until I met their eye when I snapped into fight or flight mode.
And it LASTS for me in a mild but real way for up to 48+ hours.
You are proving how effective Biofeedback training can be for people with PTSD and Anxiety/Panic disorders.
May I ask what that is? I've both.
Very badly.
Was nearly killed last Jan.
@@LynnAgain83😢 I’m so sorry💔 self compassion is crucial. Ugh ptsd can make your inner world turn against you and I hope you get the love and support you deserve. Put yourself first, even if u have kids. No exceptions. Don’t beat yourself up if guilt and shame come up, positively gaslight yourself so the bad bad doesn’t further entrench in that neural pathway. Utmost respect and kindness to you and your beautiful soul❤ thru recovery focusing on acceptance of any
Limitations. Don’t be a victim of anyone telling you it’s taking too long. Trust yourself and your body’s signals. Love yew :3
@@LynnAgain83you get hooked up to a monitor with this suction thingies usually used for ekg. on a monitor you are showed pictures and you have try to associate a matching emotion (that's how far I got, before I ditched therapy 😅 for no bad reasons as that I feel that I don't need trauma/anxiety therapy. some behavioral sure (because adhd), but no trauma). iirc afterwards you get some lines showed from your brain activity and you either get showed the images again and try to get the matching emotion, or you do it without the pictures, but the point is to change the brain waves while being shown the process visually and teach you in the process, to modulate your brain into this certain brain wave state when you aren't hooked up/in your daily life.
The UA-cam comments/stories are unbelievable for this post! Sometimes I can't believe what I'm reading, the things people have been through... Thank you to everyone for sharing your heart with us. 🤗🙋🏻♀️
Noel, your comment so true ...thank you.
Thinking the same here. 💔
I'm 70 years old and scared to death of ever needing surgery again. I remember waking in the OR each time desperately trying to make sense of what is going on. I have PTSD from several rapes when I was younger and recovery always finds me crying, fighting everyone, and pulling out my IV. The worst memory is coming to in recovery with the realization that I had been flailing my arms and crying out, with the nurse washing the tears from my face and me asking why my arm was bandaged after knee surgery. The nurse asked if I always pull out my IV and two Drs. were standing in the hallway laughing and looking at me as they talked. No one knew about the rapes - including me. It was before the memories returned and I sought help and was diagnosed with DID and PTSD and recovered the memories. Surgery revealed the emotional aspect of my rapes, but not the memories of the events, and left me with a deep fear of being without conscious control of my mind.
I am so so sorry. What a strong person you are. Peace. 💜💜💜
@@l.baughman1445 Thank you. I’m only managing to heal through Christ and the caring people He sent into my life. Looking forward to being fully healed in Heaven. Be blessed.
....doctors in the hallway laughing at you? Unprofessional to say the least.
@@5DNRG Yes, very! But that was almost 45 years ago when Drs. didn’t have much bedside manner and acted like gods.
Four surgeries under my belt and when back in my room, after recovery, my hand would be taped up to my wrist. The nurses told me, "You keep ripping out your IV." That was all they said - nothing of tossing turning, if that occurred, also.
I got PTSD.
I've had anesthesia twice. First time my brain decided I no longer spoke English (I am multilingual) and I was getting frustrated and luckily anesthesiologist knew one of the languages I was speaking in and he spoke with me and that helped me to snap out of it since he also had really soothing voice.
Second time, my brain remembered English, but was scared that my abuser was going to come and hurt me and I just needed a nurse to hold my hand. She was a really sweet older nurse that had that kind of motherly feel to her with really southing voice. So it made me feel calm.
Awwwwh! It is great to hear about such caring individuals, helping you through that surgery! Kudos to the anesthesiologist and nurse from your surgery!
I'm a Vietnam combat vet with ptsd and have had a similar experience. We vets build a wall between our daily lives and the experiences we had in combat, this is what we have done to survive. The ansthesia breaks that wall down and lets the monster out. As i have grown older it has become more difficult to keep the PTSD at bay.
You are never too old to talk to someone about it. It may help
Please don’t let it lead you to despair. You are needed here.
Please, please seek help for your mental health. You are worth it. Stay well.
I will never know the kind of things you've been through, nor the day to day compartilization/resilience you've built
The therapy & conversations surrounding therapy I've had do not try to "keep it at bay." As much as that SUCKS and sounds and feels terrible...controlled, supported, informed, and validating experiences in facing/verbalizing/dissecting, even deflecting (cuz effective therapists work slowly, at your pace) your trauma, are how to learn to keep...your response, reactions, panic, at bay
I hope you can find some help/peace with your PTSD. Maybe with more specialized therapies like the ketamine he mentions, or EMDR.
Wishing you luck & sending compassion!
Man I get it. Iraq war vet here. Most of my whole time there is repressed mentally and I'm terrified of what will happen when I'm put under.
FINALLY I find some answers to what happened to me the times I had total sedation.
Every time I woke up literally terrified and no one could tell me the reason. When you ask a doctor they just say "It can happen, sometimes"
Thank you for your videos! The exolanations are really detailed but easy to understand.
I'm so sorry you had that experience, but I greatly admire your vulnerability in sharing that. I hope you can use your new knowledge to be a better advocate for yourself!
As a DV survivor, I take a great risk by disclosing my CPTSD to any medical professional, police, anyone as one never knows when we are talking to a perpetrator.Luckily, the young anaesthetist I disclosed it to last time listened carefully, and was very caring. A rarity in Australia.
Exactly. This is absolutely terrifying
I was a bit surprised doctor didn't know what DV was as well. This was the exact question in my mind when I started watching this episode. (DV survivor here, too) My thoughts and prayers are with you. 🙏❤️
As someone with CPTSD from DV, I completely concur
Yeah, it's always "tell your doctor everything" but a significant portion of the time when you try, they just laugh at you, or refuse to believe you. And there's always the fear that they may be a genuinely horrible person and use the information against you on purpose. I still think if it's information that could seriously injure or kill you if they don't know, you should still take the risk, but it is a risk and I wish the well intentioned medical staff could understand that many of us have good reason to be afraid and/or hide things.
When I was given something to make me sleepy before being put under anesthesia I panicked and fought it trying to stay awake. Doctors don't know I was tortured as a child and my dad stole drugs from the military base hospital and gave me a shot at night if I had a nightmare so he didn't hear me cry. I was abused at age 5. So I avoid anything that makes me sleep. Im having to be put under again for biopsies, colonoscopy. The fear of not waking up can be rough.Recently had two cancers. Had full hysterectomy. No more cancer no chemo. I got a break in life.
Bless you hun that’s not easy ❤🤗
I request every time to go in wide awake. No meds before anesthesia. Medical atmosphere or prep doesn’t bother me, but not having control of myself before and throwing up after does bother me. Only once did they use it against my request. I freaked out and it’s never happened again.
My stepdad's mom kept tied up in bed as a child and would only fed him tomato soup. When he was able to get out he would be very light on his feet. When his family moved away he stayed with his grandmother. None of us knew this not even his children. We found this out when he had surgery to remove a tumor from his lung. He was one of the first cases of Mesothelioma. He worked in factory that made insulation from cotton. His first cancer test that came back positive was at the bottom of his toe. The therapist said it's amazing how he didn't become a seril killer from the abuse he suffered.
Shirl. My God, you have been through so much. My heart goes out to you.
Wow! So sorry you were related like that. No one deserves that!
I suffer complex PTSD. I've dealt with it for several years. 3 years ago I had to go under anesthesia and didn't think that PTSD would even be relevant. Needless to say I came out of it like some something out of a horror movie screaming, sobbing, pulling out IVs, and, generally ou of control. I heard the poor nurse call for help and I had to be restrained until I had total awakened. Most awful, embarrassing exerience I can remember having. I felt so bad for scaring the doctor and nurses.
That happened to me this past Wednesday when I had knee surgery. I'm embarrassed AF, been losing sleep over it and want to apologize to my surgeon. I suffer from Complex PTSD too. I had no idea it would even show or be an issue in any way.
I understand the compulsion to feel shame… but you two are not being fair to yourselves. You are in an altered state of consciousness coming out of anesthesia second you are a survivor of something that was done to you that you have NO responsibility for or shame around. That was their evil not yours. It’s one thing to understand that intellectually and a totally harder thing to accept that truth emotionally but it is your truth. Be kind to yourself. Don’t apologize. The medical professionals understand this better than you do IF they are real professionals and would not want an apology. It would only serve to reinforce a negative self blame pattern in your mind. if they are not real professionals and judge or judged you in the moment. Then they are perpetrating a second crime against you and they deserved everything they got and are not worth your precious energy to engage with ever again. Conserve your energy for the person that deserves it… YOU use it for your healing journey.
It would be great if all doctors and nurses were trained to deal with people who have ptsd and other psychological problems! Thank you for your caring attitude! Most people are just greatly scared and need to be treated with love and respect. I had a bad episode when I was having a c section with my twins. No one had explained to me what was involved with a c section. I had a brutal date rape situation in college and freaked out when they tried to to me down to that cross thing - not having it. One nurse finally claimed me down when she said we have to get these babies out for there health , it also helped when they let my husband come in.
All medical professionals should treat everyone as if there is a rape/molestation in their background because the stats are 1 in 3 both genders but my guess it's higher.
“There aren’t many times in life where we have a scenario where we can hurt ourselves or others and have no memory of it.”
Please remember that next time you start to judge someone with a mental illness. That is the difference. 💖🙏🕊
My great grandmother had dementia. Many times she started up and left the house, walking purposefully across fields to other farms. She had been a midwife during her younger years. Deep into her dementia, she would startle and go help people. Family members retrieved her each time, up to 1/4 mile away, completely unhurt. They had to explain to her that Mrs. so and so didn’t send word for her, there was no pregnant woman in need, before they could guide her back.
Wow!! I've had 3 episodes of anesthetic awareness...I STILL HAVE PTSD from it. The medical staff didn't believe me UNTIL I told the Dr/Surgeon that he needed to call his wife back! A nurse had come in during surgery, and said his wife needed to talk to him. All the while, he's digging around in my belly forcefully, cursing the scar tissue and PCOD! He told her (the RN) that it was more complicated & difficult because of my scar tissue, and he'd call her directly after surgery. I literally was paralyzed and had to make my heartrate go higher by screaming in my head and inducing a panic attack. When I told him about it initially after surgery, he and the nurse said I was dreaming. 🤷🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️ As SOON as I calmed down enough (I was in full blown PTSD at that moment, I remembered to mention his wife expecting his call. The Dr quickly turned to the nurse and said, "Hit her up with dilaudid. Stat."! Seriously?! Made him sound like a dope dealer..."hit her up?!"! Smdh 😠 😡
I can't even do an MRI without sedation now because of my lifelong history of multiple health issues and hospitalizations. During 2014-2020 I was hospitalized 24 times. Not counting testing/ Dr visits/ER visits. Medical PTSD is NO JOKE!! 💔😭
I cant believe how many UNprofessional physicians and surgeons are practicing medicine.
I pray you have peace in your soul and mind.
Ask for a BIS monitor next time. Not a guarantee but may help.
Why did you "have" to make your heartrate go higher? I don't understand that part.
@@AngelWings144K for more anesthetic
Thank you for the video. I am an Iraq Veteran, diagnosed with PTSD. I was at the Burn Pit at Biap and after I got home I was diagnosed with Gallbladder Cancer, and had to have a liver resection. When I woke up from liver surgery/anesthesia my blood pressure was sky high, and they wouldn't give me anything for the pain till it came down. After they stabilized me, I spent the next week in the hospital thinking that I had to keep an eye on the nurses, anytime they came into my room. I actually asked a family member to stay to help me keep an eye on them. The hypervigilance was most certainly increased by this experience. The whole thing was pretty wild.
You got any tips to stay regulated?
I woke up from dental surgery and couldn’t stop crying about our black lab, who had died years ago. She was the sweetest, kindest, gentlest dog ever, and I think I’d just repressed my grief after she died and it resurfaced post-anaesthesia.
I’m terrified of my OCD intrusive thoughts coming out while I’m drugged. It’s my worst fear and I think about my past procedures pretty much everyday. The thought of this is absolutely horrifying.
I never thought about that with OCD. My aunt has OCD and I have ADHD so I can kinda understand a fraction of the pain you have when it comes to horrible thoughts you don't want to have. For me after anesthesia (I also had Valium) I couldn't walk straight but i was sobbing cuz no one spoke spanish. If anything, at least the doctors will know you were under anesthesia and weren't acting like your normal self ❤
easil solved. tell your doctos you'd like to be tied down so you can't hurt anyone
@@BusinessWolf1 what? I don’t need to be tied down. I’m not going to hurt anyone. That’s not all intrusive thoughts are
@@BusinessWolf1 I think they're scared they will SAY the intrusive thoughts and that the medical staff won't understand it's OCD and that they will never follow through on them.
I didn't have PTSD until I almost died on the OR table. Unknown to me, I had Malignant hyperthermia. In a small hospital in HI. The anesthesiologist was fresh out of school and was in shock. Thankfully there was a DR called STAT to Intervene and essentially save my life. The experience itself was horrifying. The long term results were PTSD. Also I had vertically cracked all my side and back teeth, resulting in huge dental work, eventually ending in Dentures. Thanks for your video 😊
Your teeth broke from what? Gritting your teeth thru the pain?
What broke your teeth?
I have had over 40 surgeries/procedures and have even gone to the extent of writing down bullet points of things like
*I have CPTSD please be mindful
*i have terrible anxiety
Etc....
I hand this note to the nurse getting me ready for procedure and ask them to put it right on top of my chart and have everyone see it. Works pretty well, especially when they listen. But....
I recently had one nurse glance at it and throw it away. I had an aweful time no help, no communication, no understanding and just treated like a procedure and not a person. Woke up just panicked, in horrible pain, no one listened, sent home without proper pain med treatment and never completely healed. I have chronic issues and pain still years later.
Sue them. That's seriously wrong behavior and unacceptable when health-care workers ever forget patient centered care.
That nurse needs to be reported. Same with any staff who knew of this note that she threwvaway and did not behave according to help you. It is the worst form of gaslighting. It sounds like you were being abused by narcisstic bully nurse. I am sorry you went through this horrible experience. Talk to your surgeon about it. A geed surgeon would want to know. Go read your surgery notes at hospital.
Report the nurse. Seriously. That is so horrifically irresponsible that it could endanger a lot of people, yourself included.
I am so glad I found this channel. I studied to be a surgical tech and anesthesia awareness is the major reason I had a nervous breakdown, along with the stresses I was juggling at the same time outside of college. I'm not kidding, I did not continue my career in the field of surgery because I could not find the answers I needed and genuinely appreciate all of these videos. I am seriously thinking about now going back to college and studying anesthesia. Thank you!
I just found this channel too! Learning so much with each video. I totally think you should go back and study anesthesia 🎉 such a cool field.
I think that is a great idea! ❤
For those of you sharing your experiences, and this Doc; this is valuable info to me and other nurses. I have PTSD from an abusive marriage. I too, have 'emergence delirium '. I've had 2 replaced hips and recently a mastectomy, and arm dissection. I alert my care team. I let the anesthesiologist and nursing staff know to tap at the bottom the bed if I'm sleeping. If snapped awake, I come up swinging. As I was coming too after a hip surg, I bolted off the bed and headed for a door; with all the machines I was hooked to! 😮
Reminds me of Gabor Mate's book, The Body Keeps The Score. Absolutely wild that PTSD affects your body under the knife but it makes sense. Personally the idea of waking up under the anesthesia during surgery is truly one of my worst nightmares 😭
Gabriel Mate’ as my personal physician is on my bucket list.
Gabor Mate is not the author of that particular book... I think the author is Bessel van de Kolk, or something like that.
Gabor Mate does also discuss issues of trauma and mental health. Was there a book of his you were thinking about? I've not read any of his work yet.
@@jcchrome3381It's Bessel van der Kolk.
That book was written by Bessel Van Der Kolk.
@@ThePathOfLeastResistanc thanks for the correction! My bad 😅
I have PTSD/MST (Mitary Sexual Trauma as well as childhood PTSD. These all occurred before the age of 20. I’ve had surgeries multiple times and I don’t remember any times when I was waking up from surgery until I had a breast biopsy on a lump I. My breast years after I got out of the military and it was the first time I’d had any surgery since being on active duty.
When I was coming out of the anesthesia I started having a lot of trouble breathing and I was in a full blown panic attack and they were giving me different meds and such and it took a while before they got my breathing under control and were able to calm my anxiety somewhat but it was a long time I spent in recovery before they finally let my (future) husband take me home since it was an outpatient surgery and I never had any explanation for what had happened that day until I read the comments on here. It finally makes sense to me why I don’t like going into surgery or coming out of it and I hate being on the hospital for surgery or even going to the VA hospital for dr Appts.and for the past 3 years I’ve been in therapy for PTSD, both for my childhood Trauma and military Sexual trauma from two separate rapes and it’s been a long difficult road to healing although I’m not nearly done yet. I’m almost 62 years old and I thought I had dealt with all of that stuff years and years ago but I really hadn’t because I stuffed it all down inside and I paid for that. I’ve homeless 3 times, I’ve been married and divorced 4 times and have made really bad choices throughout my life with all kinds of relationships as well as other choices. Alcohol, drugs, boyfriends, friends, living situations and even jobs. So many things. Anyway, my life is finally on a better track and it’s been slowly getting better in many areas. It is still difficult at times but not nearly as bad as it has been in the past. And I’m finally okay with being by myself and have lived alone with my dog for years now and I’ve never been so grateful as I am now for being able to address the issues I have had and I’ve learned it will come out in one way or another so better to face it and walk through it sooner rather than later. It’s going to hurt at times but it hurts more and causes more wreckage the longer you put it iff.
Thank you to all those in the medical and mental health professions who are doing what they are doing, not for the money, but for the people they are helping. You’re saving lives in mores than you know.
Your story is so similar to mine. I'm almost 59. I recently had surgery and the anesthesia definitely triggered my childhood trauma and PTSD. I'm so sorry you've had to go through what you did, but thank you for sharing. It helped a ton. I'm happy for you!
Bonnie,
My story is similar.
Praying for your comfort ❤✝️ Jesus loves you!
Oh, I really feel for people that have PTSD. Thank the Lord you are there, and have the discernment that goes along with your training. You are caring.
Yes He is all they need to do is call on Him.
I think the body reacts to the trauma of surgery even if you don't remember during surgery. If you suffer from PTSD the surgery triggers it.
When I was a teenager, I was put under anesthesia to have dental work done and as I came to, I falling all over the place scream crying. I have Complex Post Traumatic Stress Disorder from not having basic needs met as a child and living in a home of substance abuse and domestic violence around me. I also had just lost my mom months before, This makes so much sense why I woke up the way I did. I sometimes think about that time and I thought it was just triggered from not liking the feeling of being out of control in my body. I remember the rest of that day being really hard after I woke up.
I didn’t realize that childhood trauma would express itself as PTSD when waking up. It took me a couple of days to kinda snap out of it. I do realize I’m a bit more nervous now. I have multiple skeletal issues and electrical accident heart problems.
Every time I wake up from surgery I'm always yelling or flailing or something. But my last surgery was actually for heart problems, some malfunction of my hearts electrical system. May I ask what set off your heart issues/what kind of issues are you having?
@@embramorgan6720 Many people today are VERY deficient in magnesium. I would look into it and talk to my doctor about it.
@@embramorgan6720 I am an electrician and I got stuck on a circuit and it messed up the electrical system in my heart and cooked some of the muscles in my heart, I also think it did some damage in other parts of my body. I don’t think I have normal adrenaline anymore. My ptsd comes from my abusive molesting father growing up. I married at 14 to escape.
Childhood trauma is usually more Complex PTSD and isn't something you can just 'snap' out of. I have experienced myself after having major surgery I started getting flashbacks of something horrible from my childhood that I had repressed.
@@ljo0605 I hear ya. I woke up while in surgery, my vein had busted and it took a bit before another vein was found and I was put back to sleep. When I woke up I felt so conflicted and felt like I had been abused somehow and started shaking uncontrollably and was seeing myself in the corner of the operating room which was in disarray naked and hurting. I know that didn’t happen and I calmed myself down but couldn’t stop crying. I’ve woke up while in surgery since then because I was feeling lots of pain, on my stomach I set up and turned my head and said ouch! Real loud and made eye contact with the Dr. That didn’t effect me in the same way. It’s weird that those two situations had different outcomes.
Happened to me, too. I was 7 after a tonsillectomy and I started hemorrhaging at night. Doctor called my parents and said I probably wouldn't be alive when they arrived. Priest gave me last rites. They did emergency surgery and didn't put me under because they thought I would die. Two nuns held my feet. I never knew how traumatic it was until I had surgery in my 20s and thought I was 7 and back in the operating room. And with each surgery over the years, my experience in recovery got worse and worse until after sinus surgery in my 40s, I thought two doctors were talking about me almost dying, and I thought I heard a child somewhere moaning.... and I wanted to cry, but I was so uncomfortable from the surgery..... terrible. I have to close my eyes when there are green walls (color of original) going into surgery because it triggers my anxiety.
Oh I feel it for you Much love
get therapy, I think you can heal this by talking to your kid version
Well, this definitely helps me understand why I had two Nurses hovering around me and acting worried when I suddenly woke up startled in recovery 2 after having my first Surgery. I had no idea that PTSD can cause such reactions. But, thinking of it now, that makes sense.
This is absolutely fascinating. I am a hypnotherapist that works with clients for pre and post surgery hypnosis. Very interesting to know that PTSD can present in this way post surgery. I really love this channel and all the helpful information you provide.
I have PTSD and hypnotherapy triggers it to be much worse and doesn't work for me. The criminal that caused the PTSD drugged me and tried to hypnotize me (didn't work), and tapped his fingers and laughed, and when they tried to do EMDR it also triggered more trauma. The criminal knew that...he tapped his fingers while I lay there drugged and unable to move. He said he read Biderman's Art of Coercion and he was going to make sure I never recovered (I was a whistleblower about his corrupt business actions). So I haven't been able to do hypnotherapy or EMDR and I guess it's pretty hard to put me under for surgery because I hear about it all the time afterward...how hard I make it for the doctors and nurses, like I can help it. I've been told I'm going to have to learn to live with the trauma and nightmares because this guy stalked me and attacked me for years. No matter where I moved in the country. The court appointed psychiatrist said he's a sociopath and will never let it go. He is very well connected. Time and again I'm told that no one can figure out how i'm still alive. Well, Im also on the autism spectrum so that actually helps me. It's tough though when you need surgery and you wake up during surgery because your whole body is fighting against the anesthesia and incisions. But too bad for that criminal because i'm still here!
Do you have a website Stacey? For the PTSd hypnotherapy.
I love that you demonstrated how deep, diaphramatic breathing slows the heartrate. That was instrumental for me in helping my panic disorder and C-PTSD. The mind body connection, and exercising resilience with the parasympathetic and sympathetic nervous system, is so important. Thank you for this informed, caring, and very helpful video. Liked and subscribed.
I have CPTSD what instrument help you.
I have PTSD from sexual assault. I have no idea if that affected me when I had surgery. I know now to tell the anaesthetist in the future if I ever need surgery.
You are such a kind gentlemen. I wish there were more doctors like you. God bless you. ❤
Thank you for sharing this vital information. Finally, 40 years after getting surgery for wisdom teeth removal, I understand why I found mysterious bruising on my arms, legs, and hands after waking up... despite the oral surgeon's denials that anything happened while I was under anesthesia. I finally understand, and am grateful for your explanation. As a survivor of childhood abuse, I can now connect some dots that I couldn't before. Thank you.
My husband did this or similar as he was a Veitman vet and he had been so close to being captured. They kept him in longer at the hospital and I was allowed to stay in his room. My voice helped him and pretending it was 1968.
I hope it went well in the end
✌ into universe 🌌 ur another hero Brenda
My USMC Son 1992 & 13 yrs.... VA hospital 6 months in bay area with TBI. As his loving Mother wonder if my presence is helpful? Recently just try to listen. He takes everyword negative. 5/5/24.
@@sandraragole2679 What is 5-5-24...that date has yet to come, please explain.
Its not just PTSD, it is dissociative personality disorder combined. Very common in veterans, specially those emotionally disconnected from their targets and the things they see
Where are you getting your information, text/school/DMSR? Dissociation is not PTSD it is a sx. People get PTSD more frequently if there was an emotional tie to the trauma in the first place. Good luck in your school/school of life.
The comment by @sofiakatelyn is correct. I was diagnosed with PTSD at 19, and Non-specified Dissociative Identity Disorder at 20-21 due to childhood sexual abuse. Dissociation is a common symptom of PTSD. I am 26 now and my dissociation happens less frequently thanks to medication and finding the right therapist.
@theresaanne407 I am glad you are overcoming it. Personal advice, to heal from it when one is ready, is to confront it. It can be a place or a trigger. Facing it, under a new experience where one is in control, truly defeats the aspect of the trauma that is most disabling. It is uncomfortable, but that discomfort is exactly what is sought in such a process. The brain relearns the experience and rewrites the neurological networks.
@@lynndurbin9476actually the original comment is correct. PTSD would not exist without disassociation. If disassociation did not happen then PTSD would not happen.
@@ififallithurtslea4170 First off it is not DISASSOCIATION...go study some more, hit the books harder.
Thank you for providing a name to my post-surgery experience. Emergence Delirium is terrifying. To my recollection I didn't try to hurt anyone but I was a mess. And after one of my first few ketamine infusions I had such a profound sense of grief and cried so hard my doc said he'd never seen anyone cry like that afterwards. I couldn't recall why exactly, but it was a huge release.
Thank you for showing us how much breathing can help us. I have pretty bad anxiety, ptsd and fibromyalgia and I need to do this consciously more often, thank you
I had an inflammatory response from the breathing tube and my breathing did not come back online quickly after surgery due to blood loss that was ignored by nurses. My ptsd stemmed from the painful feeling of not being able to control my breathing and the painful sensations from the breathing machine during surgery. It took several months for my breathing, heart rate, and nervous system to regulate after surgery. Focusing on breathing can be a double edged sword for those that have experienced trauma or difficulties related to breathing.
I have PTSD and am also terrified of surgery. I couldn't even finish watching the video. I need bilateral knee surgery but have put it off because of my extreme fear of surgery. I was a non-combat hospital corpsman in the Navy and became a nurse afterward. I panic badly just thinking of surgery.
I'm 66, I had bilateral hip joint replacement surgery 5 months ago. I was in a great deal of pain from huge bone spurs in each joint and was bone on bone. I withstood it for many years but the last 2 were hell, so I said ok to hip replacement. I have CPTSD, panic disorder, and generalized anxiety disorder. I had to wait 7 months for a surgery date. By the time I went in for my surgery, I couldn't wait to get those hips out of my body, they hurt so bad! I was on crutches. Now I'm back to light gardening, able to travel longer distances where before an hour in a vehicle left me too sore and stiff to walk. I can kneel, ride an exercyle, do some daily chores.
What I had to do was mentally go to the edge and make peace with any possible outcome, to the point where I could just tell myself to get it over with. The only way out is through, and I couldn't live with the degree of pain and disability I had. I read up on the procedure, redid my trust, got everything I would need for recovery, and made sure the hospital and anesthesiologist knew I was sensitive to the epinephrine in lidocaine, which they would use for the spinal block. They said they would use an agent without epinephrine. I also told them I was very sensitive to anesthesia, that there was always a problem with waking me up.
I practiced basic body relaxation to help me stay calm in the middle of my fear. Please look up Herbert Benson's book "The Relaxation Response".
Anyhow yes, they had trouble waking me up and then stabilizing my vitals. I was in the hospital for 5 days, longer than usual. But I was comfortable, I insisted on anti-nausea meds when they gave me my opiates, and just rested. I was on the other side, and just told myself that at some point I would be home, and then I was. The surgery was a lifesaver for me, my hips don't ache so horribly, I just have some stiffness but it can take up to a year to fully heal. I am SO grateful to my surgeon! I would say ask all the questions you need to as many times as you need to in order to find some level of being ok with moving forward with surgery for the time when you absolutely need to do it. I can tell you from where I am now I don't miss my OEM hips one bit!
@@roughroadstudio Good for you for being pro-active in your situation! I had surgeries on one ear, and four years later, the same surgery on the other ear. The first time I was very uncomfortable after surgery (my first memory after was being wheeled out of the surgery room was saying, "I think I'm going to throw up," and then apologizing afterward!) Then I had to pee every fifteen minutes because of the IV and I was miserable, very dizzy, and had a nurse who argued with my partner and me about things like giving me something for my intense anxiety. Then terrible dizziness and nausea for a week afterward, that wasn't supposed to happen. Four years later, I talked to everyone involved in my surgery about the "complications" I experienced before, and pretty much insisted that they be addressed. They all listened, and technology had advanced, too, which addressed some of the issues. Result: a much easier time recovering for me 😀
Talk to your doctor about doing a spinal freezing instead. You stay awake and they freeze everything from your waist down
I remember begging the nurses to put me back to sleep crying that my husband is mean to me. It was embarrassing. That was my worst experience coming out of anesthesia
Aww bless you ! How are you ? I hope you’re doing okay
I had a kidney removed in Dec 2021 and I told everyone I had Complex PTSD. I remember waking myself up screaming in recovery and having someone tell me it's ok the fentanyl is on board. I was freaking out before surgery and woke up extremely angry. I even yelled at a nurse trying to help me walk after because she kept touching me and my amygdala was stuck in flight or fight mode. I quickly developed non-epileptic seizures triggered by stress. It was a year of hell and it's been one hell of a battle trying to come back. Therapy and ketamine are making a huge difference.
Very interesting. I have cptsd and also have psychogenic non epileptic seizures (caused by extreme stress) . I hope you are doing okay now! ❤
@@thebusinesswoman23 Haven't had a seizure since November 2022 and I am working part time now. Not every day is great but I am getting better with the help of friends and my therapist
I developed stress induced seizures too, I'm so sorry
I'm doing a lot better now that I am in a more supportive place. I'm working part time now and haven't had a seizure since Nov 2022. I found both psilocybin and ketamine therapy helpful. I'm still healing and most days deal with some issue but it's so much better.
@@victoriaangel4740 I want to try ketamine! I've had mushrooms like, non medically, and it was absolutely amazing how well it worked just as a micro dose! I wish it was just legal and easily available or covered by insurance. Marijuana too, if all my doctors want me to use it then shouldn't insurance cover it ideally? Oof.
I'm so glad things are working out for you!!!
I appreciate the breathing that you teach. I’ve been practicing it. I’m a vivid dreamer and often wake from dreams very stressed. That stress can carry into the first part of the morning. Because I have learned to slow things down with breathing I woke the other morning after a stressed dream and breathed intentionally for a few minutes. I was able to calm my body and my mind and not carry the stress that I was feeling any further.
I came out of hospital with full blown fibromyalgia. I must have had fibromyalgia before I went in for surgery but it wasn't diagnosed because I just had some pain from standing on my legs occasionally. After surgery my bowels went crazy & my spine was in agony if I lay down to rest. 15 years on & I'm unable to live any quality of life without the need of opioid.
Sounds like FND. Look it up.
Have you been tested for histamine?
I have CPTSD, and had no idea how important that information is for a procedure or surgery. When I had my heart ablation, as I started to come up out of general anesthesia (I wake up in the middle of things without being put an extra layer down) I immediately started fighting. I popped my left artery plug, and started bleeding out. They had to put me back under as quickly as possible, while holding me down to keep me from popping the right artery plug, sandbag my left artery area, and just in general fight me to keep me alive. I use it as a funny story😬. Thank you for this video. I will be much more mindful in the future to make sure Drs and anesthesiologists know this information ahead of time. Again, thank you. 🌸
Spot on! Military daughter, widow and Mom.... In our cadre... this is standard response for real combat veterans. PTSD is not an illness but rather it is the response from the highest situational awareness...❤
Yeah, my PTSD is quite severe. So I’m on some fairly effective meds and I make sure every doc I see knows about it. But particularly before any surgery, I insist that the people in the room place restraints on every section of my body in advance. Better safe than sorry. I’d feel horrible if I somehow injured someone while coming out of anesthesia or even during surgery. It’s hell.
Anesthesia is a NIGHTMARE for Mr.
I have CPTSD and I have the most HORRIBLE EXPERIENCES going under.
The Anesthesiologist NEVER listens to me beforehand and I wake up SCREAMING LIKE I am being attacked again.
I hate it
Thanks for addressing it, unfortunately it's too much for me to even watch but thanks 😊
I really admire how you are willing to accept feedback from your patients. Too many doctors just follow the same protocol with every person without regard to previous adverse reactions. If another doctor or nurse tells me that the drugs are better now than they were a few years ago I will get up off the table and walk out.
This doctor is the answer to prayer for many as well as myself.
I have a medical procedure tomorrow, a needle biopsy and there will be some form of anesthesia. I have cPTSD and pretty much know how to deal with it but hearing doc give such well explained answers has put me at ease for tomorrow.
I was shocked to hear that i must allow for a 6 hour experience from admit to discharge.
So grateful for family, as I will not be alone for any of it.❤
I developed C-PTSD due to a combination of medical trauma and stalking. Will have to undergo lung surgery soon and am really worried I will fight myself out of the anesthesia in a dissociative state. A far from pleasant experience to others as police compared it to walking on the movie set of ‘the exorcist’. Fingers crossed things will go better this time 🤞🏻 Somehow this calmed me down a bit so thx 😊
Absolutely, I mentioned in another one of your videos about medical PTSD but I also have other PTSD from growing up in a rough neighborhood in Chicago when I was a teen in a drug culture and associating with hardened criminals. I experienced traumatic car crashes, high speed car chases, guns and shootings, being chased and cornered by hardened criminals grown men who spent half their lives in penitentiaries etc. I have experimented with blood pressure cuffs and closing my eyes and thinking back on these memories and can immediately jack my blood pressure and then think of happy memories and bring it back down. I have to practice this to sleep at night, I operate normally on 5 hours of sleep on average, sleep 10 to 11 pm wake 3 am. I haven't had any incidence of waking from anesthesia violently but have a hard time coming back to consciousness. I think its because when Im put under and time stops, then when Im in recovery and conscious but now awake I always feel like when I was a child sleeping in on Sunday with the smell of pancakes, this memory makes me not want to awaken. Perhaps they need to pipe in the smell of pancakes in the operating theater to help with this issue.
I get it. I do. There should be a network of people like us so that we could help each other through surgeries. You're still here and I'm thankful for that because it's so lonely thinking no one gets it. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for writing your comment.
And thank you for the pancakes...🥞
Johnny @ 8629. Great idea and so glad you're still here among the living.
Cats are said to have 9 lives, and you seem to also.
But really, I hope you thank God for protecting you numerous times. 😊
Recently , I switched careers. I have worked the past 25 years in commercial HVAC service where I was by myself 80 to 90 % of the time . I now work in a facility where I am amongst hundreds of other employees and part of the hiring process was fitment amongst these employees. Now I am more social and telling my stories and seeing the look on other faces has shone me that my experiences were not normal even for growing up in the 70s and 80s.
I woke up in the ICU before they could extubate me and the doctor wasn't responding to the multiple pages to come. My husband was told only that doctor was able to remove the tube and he was livid. Apparently, propofol doesn't work on me in light doses so I had to sit there, awake, and intubated while my husband was preparing to have to deflate the balloon and remove it himself. Until I woke up enough to realize my husband was talking to me, I was pulling at the tube so I had to be restrained. They magically found another doctor who could come right away and extubate me after a little over an hour. Between his EMS and Army Medic training, he absolutely knew how to remove it and would have done it if that doctor hadn't been there when he showed up.
I'm sorry 😢 that sounds like a horrible experience.
That’s crazy! After my gallbladder surgery it was either a nurse or assistant that did mine. Her voice was very young. But she turned the machine off and unhooked it but left it down my throat. I couldn’t breath! I honestly thought I was going to die. I heard her turn putting her back to me talking to another woman across the room. I couldn’t move or open my eyes. Just out of the will to live and right before I was about to pass out I somehow managed to raise my left shoulder up enough that the other nurse saw and said she’s moving. She quickly spun around and pushed me back to the table. Thankfully she finally pulled the tube out. That was the longest hardest breath I’ve ever taken and because I inhaled so quickly and hard it hurt! But as soon as I got that air in my lungs I was back out. When I got my patient satisfaction survey in the mail I wrote a very detailed description about what happened. I also told my surgeon and doc. I was told that several were let go for negligence and bad attitudes. If I ever have to have surgery again I will make sure the surgeon and all the nurses/assistants know I’m terrified of that happening again. That girl didn’t care the least about my life. I’m so sorry that happened to you! Maybe with us telling it it can help the other medical providers find ways to prevent this and to be more attentive.
GOD please give me a wonderfully informed on CPTSD&TRAUMA DISORDER Anesthesiologist like you for my upcoming surgery. 😪
He might not have known he had PTSD. Some hide it from themselves. Until it bottles up so long then they break. So sad. They think it makes them weak. 😢.
This is always a possibility, and it typically comes out under anesthesia, at least in some cases
I'm going in for surgery on Thursday and I'm kind of scared of what I'm gonna say while under... a nurse sat down and asked me all these different personal questions...one of them was what should we not do... I never had someone ask me that question before...when I went in for my gallbladder surgery they just took me in and I guess I told them some kind of story about chainmale guys that I've never met... never saw... never heard they're voices...and they live on the live on the East Coast...our guild were gonna order chainmale... Anyway... when I said don't tie my hands up... she said well sometimes we do hold you down because people start fighting and flailing and I said whatever you do don't tie my hands down...and she just kind of stopped for a minute and went ...OK... thank you for telling me... I'm very sorry... which I thought was very sweet of her.
My nephew was in the 1st Marine Division, tip of the Spear into Iraq. He did two tours in Iraq, Afghanistan. He’s an EMT and firefighter now. He’s always afraid of being under anesthesia, because of the horrors he experienced. I’ve never seen him smile since he got home. And you can see “the look” that vets often have from direct combat in pictures. He has a son. That keeps him here on this earth.
I hope he gets therapy for the stresses in his life. Seeking out stressful jobs seems like a way to cover up a problem with anxiety. You give your body an excuse for the constant feelings of tension.
When I had a minor surgery at St. Helena Hospital in St. Helena, California, they had a massage therapist give patients a few minutes of massage before going into surgery. I don’t know if it had direct impact on my anesthesia needs or not, but it sure did reduce my anxiety, my heart rate and BP! I was an RN, and I’d never seen this done before, but it was a welcome and useful procedure!
I remembered, when I was in Anatomy & Physiology classes upon once a time as I was going to go to be a Rad Tech; my professor telling me the cells remember things. I found that EXTREMELY FASCINATING!
btw I didn’t end up going to that, but I went into a social service field years later.
I still, however, love learning new things, even with what you teach, as I find it very relevant to my job in social services.
Thank you for bringing awareness to this topic. Sadly, those reactions can happen from waking up, more like jumping out of, regular attempted sleep cycles. It could be as you described (jumping up in an alert, but incoherent state), maniacally laughing, hysterically crying, a whole range of really weird and heavy stuff. I think it is rare for physicians/surgeons to make an effort to try being understanding & empathetic in this scenario.
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I had an uncle that had never learned Japanese and spoke fluently when he was partially sedated. He had been a soldier, but that was his only exposure to the language.
Very interesting. Two seperate parts of thé brain are used in thé mother tongue and a secondary language as an adult.
My husband was on my table for relaxing and he sat up said aome things about a war he was in and was right back in the trauma. Laid him back down and an hr later he woke up and didnt remember any of it. However he could walk which he hadnt been able to before. His story goes a lot deeper and He does Not use drugs or alcohol. He was very upset about the giys he saw die.
I had enormous blue purple bruises behind my upper arms after surgery. I woke up almost three hours after surgery telling the nurse about a wall clock with books shelf around the clock and also telling her I was from Italy. I am not
I don't remember it but my mom told me that when I woke up from surgery I told the doctor he needed to get better tissues because the tissues in his office are too rough. I never used a single tissue in his office! 😂
Bravo, Doctor. I work with mind, body and soul with trauma victims and have my own experiences with PTSD and C-PTSD; I’m so grateful to hear your wisdom here fine sir. Subscribing. ❤
This happened to me during a surgery on my upper and lower jaw. I woke up fighting and lifted one nurse up with one arm and kicked another to the ground... I have no memory of this other than having the feeling that someone was trying to stop me from breathing. When I finally woke up proper. I was in so much pain! The back of my head had a small bald spot from where I kept hitting the back of my head against something, I guess the metal operating table? The arm i used to lift up one of the nurses had muscles torn so bad i couldnt straighten it! This was while active duty at Madigan in FT. Lewis WA. They knew I was on SSRIs, They knew I had PTSD, Major depression disorder. What was worse is they never told me all the details as to what happened. All i know it was terrifying.
I woke up from surgery sobning like a child !!! The military during war tme is a crazy place, being a rifleman in a front line infantry unit is like nothing else in the world!!! Rest easy to all my veterans out there. Salute. By the way valumn was pumped into me for quite awhile before i was able to calm down
4/22/2009 at 6:35AM while on my way to work and on my motorcycle I was hit, head-on, by a car that crossed over the median. On the 4th night in the hospital I woke up at 4:00AM with complete amnesia. I thought I was a POW being experimented on by the enemy. ---- It took about an hour for my memory to come back. It was terrifying, the amnesia.
Got my wisdom teeth out in 10th grade, probably about the peak of my PTSD. ended up waking up confused and crying because I didn’t know where I was and they were telling me they were taking me to my mom (one of my biggest abusers). Made me absolutely start balling. Even tho i was still out of it, i was so scared of her thinking i was upset because of her; i lied and said i wanted my cat (which i did)
Your normal heart rate is amazing. I have severe cPTSD from a severely traumatic upbringing. I tried everything I knew to get better, but wound up with diffuse & nutcracker esophageal spasms, & vasovagal syncopy., by the time I hit my early 40s. I also have lower GI neuromuscular motility issues. It’s so bad I had to stop working out or doing physical activity, which sort of crushed me. Can’t talk out loud much. Can’t tolerate heat anymore. Ketamine clinic didn’t help. I’ve tried therapy my whole life, but it’s only recently gotten significantly better for people like me, so I’m trying the newer techniques now. I’m a former research scientist in genetics. I did a deep dive to try to figure out what was wrong several years back bc doctors didn’t know, & I was misdiagnosed w/ CMVD initially for 3 yrs.
I find this fascinating. I have also woken up twice that I’m aware of during iv sedation, & had some issues during general anesthesia once, but the doctor didn’t give me details. During iv sedation once, I woke up screaming and kicking, punching the oral surgeon.. I remember that, but also not being coherent. The other time was during a colonoscopy. Woke up screaming in pain (I have no issues w/ my colon).
When you did your breathing technique, I was astounded to see your heart rate drop to the 50s.
I recently discovered the Wim Hof method, & am thinking of giving it a go at home. What are your thoughts on cold immersion therapy increasing vagal tone, as well as the special type of breathing he does?
Also, does the pineal gland react in a certain way to anesthesia, like it does when we go to sleep at night?
You’re doing a wonderful service. I wish I’d known all this. I often have to undergo endoscopies, etc, & now I’ll be very certain to make sure my anesthesiologist is fully informed. Ty
Thank you. For the knowledge. But also for the empathy you have for your patients. I don't fight my anesthesiologists. I go down very easily, but then my best friends father is an anesthesiologist. So I have always had a better than average understanding of how important your job is. You literally hold the patient's life in your hands, even for the most minor, easy surgery. So I have an abundance of trust in my anesthesiologist... IF and WHEN they come talk to me before surgery. I have had 2 that didn't and in that case my blood pressure was high and my heart rate was trying to mimic a hummingbird. Those are the 2 times that I was told they had to give me more medication to keep me out and I woke up from both violently fast (not violently towards anyone, just painfully quickly for me). I had an amazing anesthesiologist in 2 different states that didn't just come in, but sat and took the time to ask me questions and follow-ups to my answers. Those 2 times I stayed under (because they knew it takes more to keep me down) and woke up smoothly. See, I have CPTSD and I'm a red head. I learned a long time ago that I can control MYSELF if I am in the right frame of mind and that will translate over under anesthesia. This has worked every time except once. But I was afraid that time. And alone. And in an awful lot of pain and had been for way to long (had to wait from 1pm to 8 am for emergency surgery, it's a bit of a story) and I just wanted my mom there and she wasn't. I started to cry softly when on the table. My anesthesiologist was so kind and... He reminded me of my grandfather when I was a kid. He held my hand while I went down after he had calmed me down. I woke up crying. But because of his kindness and genuine concern when I went down. It was unexpected and made a world of difference for me... I started crying writing about it now and it's been 8 years. All that to say, I've had good anesthesiologists and I've had amazing ones, and I can tell that you would be one of those amazing ones.
Also they used to show me off when I donated plasma back when I could. Because I could raise and lower my blood pressure without and outward sign that I was doing so at all. I HAD to. Low blood pressure. I had to keep my blood pressure UP to donate otherwise j would continually trip the machine and the alarm would go off 😂 so I could do it long before that point (since about 16 years old) but I got RIDICULOUSLY good at it because I donated plasma twice a week for 5 years😅
@AnastAnam, are you my long lost twin? I've had similar experiences abd also have cPTSD and am a natural Red Head.
Small world, we rule, we RedHeads !
@@barbarazuviceh6506 If we are, then their is something I should tell you about our doppelganger... Its truly very weird to be mistaken for an adult entertainer. I probably would have been flattered if my husband wasn't deployed at the time and it was his soldiers who made the mistake 🤣😂🤣 True story
@@AnastaAnam28. I can’t get over you gave blood TWICE a week!!!! Is that possible?? I think here in US it’s once a month. God speed from Texas
Fyi it isn't just combat vets who get PTSD. I was diagnosed with complex poet traumatic stress disorder from being in a family with an alcoholic and agressive dad. I feel exhausted everyday because of this and my relationships are a mess.
Wow, doc, the outcome of that scenario is pretty much all on you. Thank God you know your stuff, stay cool and just use your tools and drugs to help the patient! You use your intelligence, training and compassion to do God’s work. Thank you and God bless you! ✝️❤️👏👏👏😊
YES. PTSD from medical trauma, and Cushing's Disease symptoms due to the incredible stress (cortisol) caused. My surgeon permanently injured me. He eventually lost his license from killing a couple people I knew.. almost killed another.. and 20 years later there is not a day that goes by that I don't suffer the effects of the damage he caused. I actually woke up in the middle of the second (open cavity), and I can't describe the pain. My 21st operation (hopefully the last), I focused on being in good hands this time, trusting that since he was this first surgeon's ex-partner, he knew firsthand the damage caused, and was going to do everything he could to save me. I wonder what my life would look like now if this new surgeon had done my first operation.. It may have been my one & only. This second surgeon opened me like a fish, put things back to rights, and believe it or not I was pain-free the first day after surgery and back at work in a week -- not the 6-8 it had taken every other time. I think it's a combination of his genuine concern, talent/expertise, and my trust that all would be well. I haven't needed another surgery since, and it's been 7 years.. a record for me.
Elizabeth, a miracle. So glad you're okay.
Perseverating. It's not often someone teaches me a new medical phenomenon and a new non-medical word in the same discussion.
I have C-PTSD stemming from childhood abuse, kidnapping and gang r* as an adult, and multiple medical traumas. I always disclose everything, including my C-PTSD diagnosis and my marijuana use. Of all the things I disclose I never thought the C-PTSD had any impact whatsoever in how I'm sedated (I've had many surgeries). I hope I've never hurt anyone, it's certainly never been mentioned to me, but I have been told over and over again that I wake up faster and more alert than they're used to seeing and how weird that is. It's usually suggested it's because of my weight but the anesthesiologist knows my weight going in and you guys are pretty smart so I never believed that. Good to learn.
Thank you for caring about your patients.
Thank you for this video. I love how you showed how our mental state can affect our vitals. Deep breathing to relax has a terrific affect on them too. Love this because it's empowering
I had a similar experience coming out of anesthesia after surgery to fuse vertebrae in my neck with bone taken from femur. I woke up in a panic outside the OR on the way to my room, I think, ( I knew the hospital quite well and recognized I was leaving the newer part of the hospital for the original wing) trying to rise up from the gurney and trying to rip out the tube in my mouth. Someone did something quickly to put me out again and I woke up in my room with my wife at my bedside. I never associated that panic with my diagnosed PTSD. (childhood traumas, not combat). I’ve since been under anesthesia 20 times for ECT with no similar problem. The period under anesthesia was much shorter, of course, and Iwent into each of those in a hopeful and calm state of mind and woke up in in recovery room with no panic. Anyway, Doctor, thank you for your videos. You have great presence and I appreciate the information. God bless
I love these videos with you explaining issues. I can see you are a very caring and kind person w/ a great amount of knowledge.
As the great granddaughter, daughter, sister and sister -n-law to MD's, I truly appreciate you. You are so wise. I have suffered several major traumas in my life and I had CFS 35 yrs ago. My allergist refused to do food allergy testing. He was treating me for asthma and allergies. I received shots. He told me I didn't have food allergies and he wouldn't test me. He said,"It's all in your head". I was shocked and heartbroken. Fortunately I found the proper Dr. . He was wonderful and saved me. Thank you for being a progressive, compassionate, open minded Dr. So appreciate you. I know being a Dr is not easy in today's world but I wish more were like you.
I think I may have referred to this in the past, but I had a similar experience (although not to the extent that I ripped my breathing tube out or climbed off the operating table). I have had 40+ general anaesthetics and am in my 30s. I had a few as a very young child and infant - one in particular I recall vividly. It was back when they utilised the old, black, anaesthetic masks and I have never forgotten how it looked, smelled or made me feel. From that point on, I always associated the anaesthetic/oxygen mask with that negative experience, so I would request for the mask to be omitted whilst I was awake during further procedures. I was generally, very relaxed pre op and had full faith in my doctors. A couple of years back, the ‘no mask request’ was neglected and I could feel my body going into panic as soon as it were utilised (it was applied just prior to me going to sleep and I was unable to speak with how tight it was held over my face). I am already chronically tachycardic and have POTS + hyperthyroidism, so require huge amounts of anaesthetic and wake up as though I have had no anaesthesia post op (very alert and coherent). Nobody mentioned anything to me at the time of this particular experience, however I then had to see a cardiologist (unrelated) and he said “so you have several autoimmune and connective tissue disorders, as well as PTSD”? I thought he accidentally utilised that acronym, in place of POTS, but now i have been processing the interaction ever since as never had the opportunity to discuss it. Are anaesthetists or other providers obliged to discuss such events as they occur under their care, whilst asleep….. and if not, how does one determine when it is appropriate or even necessary to do such?
Maybe this is why I wake up sobbing EVERY TIME i have anesthesia. 😂
My ears will be filled with tears and i am just sobbing.
Oh wow. I had parathyroid surgery last year and had 2 tumors removed. When I came out of surgery I knew where I was and everything but I started shaking like my body was in shock, and I was hyperventilating and crying inconsolably. It was confusing because I didn't know why. My husband was confused about what was happening. The Nurses mentioned to him it happens sometimes but didn't elaborate. Thank you for this video, it's somewhat reassuring to understand what was happening. I felt totally out of control.
This is almost exactly what happened to me after waking up after a long medically-induced coma after my 2nd kidney transplant.i was cussing,fighting,ripped out my I.V. ,bolting out of the room,really thought they were trying to kill me.
All i could think of was i had to get home to safety.i don't really remember much of it.a lot of what i have related was told to me afterwards.and yes,i have experienced a lot of abuse throughout my life.
I was under anesthesia when I was asked an extremely personal question, how many sexual partners have I had, and I woke up and gave them the same answer I put on my intake sheet. I was extremely angry I was asked a personal question while under. But, before I went under someone made the comment that while under I would tell the truth. I think I was on guard because I knew my privacy was going to be violated. I'm still disgusted and have a distrust of anesthesia. How can I receive anesthesia again in the right mindset?
I have never heard anyone ask a patient personal questions under anesthesia. The most personal I’ve heard might be to ask about illicit drug use.
After the birth of my first child I had a reaction and relived a flaming commercial plane crash I was in as a child and didn't remember. Went running down the ward yelling 🔥 fire 🔥 fire.
Wow.
How horrible! When was that? Would be very interested in more details about the plane crash.
About a decade ago I was put under nearly a dozen times over the course of three years for spinal and hip surgeries. I woke up in a rage of sorts following my surgeries multiple times. It was quite embarrassing on one hand and made me suspicious as to what might have been happening to me when I was under on the other. I've lived through a great deal of intense emotional trauma throughout the course of my life but never considered these episodes could be associated to those events. Thanks for sharing.
I'm almost 60. I'm just learning that I have lived with CPTSD my entire life. Luckily I am not a combat vet. Imagine my situation and throw PTSD from combat on top of it...God bless our vets. I'm working on my issues now that I know what's going on. I have woke up a few times to say the least coming to my feet and covered in sweat ready to fight. Makes keeping a partner around difficult when you are so touchy when sleeping. :( They all knew to just leave me alone and bring a cup of coffee...ouch. thanks for sharing your content