These are my initial thoughts based on the differences between these cameras. I'll be making more Pocket 3 content in the future showing its features in more depth.
The problem : "Dear Thank you for contacting DJI Technical Support. We are grateful to assist you with your concern. Regarding your situation, we are sorry to inform you the main camere battery cannot buy singlely, we recommend you to buy the battery handle to help yo solve this issue. This could also help you solve the battery life issue." So you trow away the Pocket 3 in 2 years maximum when battery no longer charges.
I prefer the action 4. I like wide for travel vlogging. But the pocket is good, that device functionality can replace a camera for a ton of situations.
Really great in-depth comparison of the two cameras! We've been going back and forth between the two and I think you made our decision much easier with the fact that the Action 4 can withstand the elements!
I almost went with the Pocket 3, but decided on the Action 4 for one reason. I can get an accessory that will allow me to clip it onto my backpack and film while walking and still have use of both hands. I film travel vlogs, and wanted a camera that is waterproof, drop proof and inconspicuous. I watch a lot of Noel Phillips, and he convinced me to go with the Action 4 since much of my use case would be similar to his. Thanks so much for the video!! ❤️✊🏾
I really like how well thenOA4 works, but the FOV perhaps a bit too wide. The GoPro 12 etc has slightly better (otherwise I lean more toward the OA4). OP3 better for vlogging IMO, OA4 for any outdoor adventures, especially if you want to get a better idea of your environment and less on you. Thought it did ok through most of the trees if not too dark, sometimes actually better. Well done btw! Liked the rain end!
From some1 who owned the Pocket 1 I despise the way the camera works and the way the video looks like, action camera all the way it just gives you a real fov perspective and you easily focus on what you want to shoot at.
The best choice would be to have both. I've used my Pocket 3 in the rain (heavy rain!) a few times, as well as during a snow fall and even hail! But... with an umbrella. Cumbersome, and just a small, old umbrella, but never any problem whatsoever with the Pocket 3- and that's here in Canada! Got a few drops of water on the lens, or other parts now and then, but nothing serious. By the way Steve, I'm assuming the Action 4 and the Insta360 Ace Pro are kind of similar. Is there one you would recommend over the other? Thanks!
I could throw my GoPro on the ground and it would be fine, won’t be doing that with the pocket. We might get a good dry winter to get the pocket 3 out, surely. 🤔 Top notch comparison video 👍🏻
But the gopro is a completely different product and does not have advanced mechanics in it that would break. Compare it more with other gimbal devices.
Great honest review 👍. When I had the pocket 2 was scared of dropping it up the mountains and also no use in the rain . 3 looks like a good job for vlogging on a nice dry day . Will stick with my GP 11 for the time being even though I like the way the action 4 makes your face look thinner which I could do with 😂😂😂
@@stevestechemporium it def has its place . Let’s hope DJI come out with something like the pocket but fully waterproof and built like a tank 😁 maybe the pocket 4 in 10 years time 😂
The pocket 3 is worth to be bought just for the bigger sensor for low light footage but, I find it too expensive for such a delicate, little, badly designed stick - the idea is good but the conceptual design is flawed. The action camera is useless. I would rather just use my phone.
@@stevestechemporium I enjoyed your review - very well made but I realized (already before watching your review) I really don't need neither of these cameras. I did see some great cinematic looking night city walk footages and some creative clips and that was impressive. My take on the Pocket 3 is that it's something you would use casually, creatively and carefully - you drop it once and it's over. I guess it's really designed for its purpose - for a vlogger. If it was made to be used professionally, it would designed with military-grade materials and design, ideally modular, with big battery options etc etc. I would have designed a solid, modular cube with option of interchangeable mini-lens (for portability) and many other add-ons, to make it into something really unique and appealing. I've seen mini lens on ebay for smartphones - very cool idea.
I ownthe Action 4 and I completely agree that it's simply too wide for vlogging. I've tried changing the screen resolution to 2.7k (16×9) narrow it crops the image and removes the ward appearance, but still doesn't appear natural. The Action 4 is great for wide angled establishing or quick on the go type shots. It all depends on your needs.
100% agree with you Steve. It's the biggest reason I purchased the Action 3 and stopped using my Pocket 2. Also the reason why I won't purchase the Pocket 3. Along with not being weather sealed, it's just too fragile to use in the outdoors for hiking, camping, etc. I had to return my Pocket 2 a couple of times for repair, because the gimble had problems after a small knock. Great video mate. 👍
It can be used for all those things, Paul Messner used his on his last video. But you have to be very careful with it and avoid the rain and still need a waterproof option. Just in case. No ideal for people only wanting to use one camera
These gears are meant for different scenarios. If you need to talk a lot to the camera, pocket3 is the go-to choice. It really enhances your on-screen charisma.😂
So I bought the Pocket 3 and will sadly be returning it for the Action 4. Vertical/ Portrait mode is way better than the Pocket 3. Ive decided to start making shorts/ reels as that seems to be the way the world is going with attention spans getting shorter and shorter. The pocket 3 crops the image as you know thus not making it very wide. Thanks for the video
A weather sealed gimbal on a Pocket camera would be awesome. I use these cameras for recording marathon videos. The races I run usually start in the dark and weather can be unpredictable. I've used my Pocket 1 for low light since the mechanical gimbal is better than digital stabilization in low light, and I've used gopros for bad weather and the replaceable batteries. Many races I've brought both. Now I have the Action 4 which is better in low light than my old gopros. Keeping the shutter speed above 1/120 and cleaning up the noise in post is my current plan. If weather wasn't an issue, The Pocket 3 would check all the boxes for me.
Interesting... I agree about the stabe on the ZV-1, but I think the Pocket 3 is doing a better job than Sony - at least from what I can tell. I usually have to go in and add stabilization [even with SteadyShot on Active] for my ZV-1 footage. It sure crops in a lot, ugh.
It's about the right tool for the right job. I'd like a weather sealed Pocket, but I'm finding the tracking in combo with the mobile app incredible for self shooting. The Action 4 is what I'd use for adventure sports or foul weather. The Pocket 3 is what I'd use for actual video making in good conditions where I want nice looking shots. They're two totally different products for very different purposes. Which camera to use if you only need one camera? Well, it depends. If you're nutters like us and want to film stuff in horizontal rain, then the Action 4 will clearly win. But this frames the Pocket 3 in the negative. It's a complex decision process, and ultimately, if someone is on a budget and can only have one camera, they need to get the one that suits what and where they will shoot the most. And that could be equally the Action 4 or the Pocket 3. Remember, most normal people aren't like us. They avoid the wet rainy stuff!
Agree with all this and hopefully the point I made in the video. Different tools. But I’m aware of lots of people thinking this will be the perfect camera for hiking and camping and outdoor vlogs. But they don’t realise how much more of a delicate camera it is. Actually think it’s fairly revolutionary in terms of the capabilities. But not the option for everyone if they can only have one camera
@@stevestechemporium I am sometimes a bit perplexed as to why they didn't make it weatherproof. There have been weatherproof gimbals available in the past, so it is possible. Maybe someone will come up with a waterproof dome system for it? Rain drops might be an issue, but it would at least make it possible to use in inclement weather.
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Discovered your channel recently because I'm hesitating between the Pocket 3, the Action 4 and the Insta360 X3: Love your videos! I already have a nice camera (a6600, very soon becoming the a6700) and a great combo of lenses. I want that no mas, no fuss tiny small camera I can carry anytime anywhere (motorbilke, hiking, camping with the kids). I live in the UK, so it's just as rainy as you in Ireland. You're making a crucial point regarding the Pocket 3 ! While I love the idea of 360 shots and the creative possibilities, the exposed easily scratchable lenses, as well as the slightly worst reliability, are making me lean more and more convincingly towards the Action 4... Keep up with the good content !
Does pocket 3 have less of a dynamic range, or is it just in this scenario that it looks like 3 is overexposed while the colours in 4 seem to have plenty of wiggle room in the grade?
The pocket 3 has face priority so it exposes for faces which can make the background brighter and skies seem like they have less detail. I think you can switch it off.
I've already bought the P3 but that was an excellent comparison. The PD3 blows the A4 out of the water in every department, bar ruggedness/waterproofness. I'd say the PD3 is the ultimate vlogging camera, but I'm wondering if there's still a gap in the market for something like the ZV-1 but with a wider angle and better stabilisation. Otherwise we'll continue to pigeon hole action cams into vlogging cams.
Many rebiew said that Action 4 is worst in (extrem) dark place. But I think, Why do I record dark place? I want to shoot something, someplace. I want to record view, building, people. I don't need to go to extrem dark place if I want to make contents.
Both cameras are actually too Good but it's depends on you on how you will use these cameras, OA4 is a good choice, If you do a lot of sports or outdoor activities then for sure OA4 is best of because of durability but if your not doing die hard outdoor activities than P3 is good even it will handle little worse outdoor activities, I owned OA4. Currently I'm considering to give up my OA4 for P3 as most of time , I shoot videos outdoor with extremely low light situation, where Obviously P3 perform much better than my OA4.
AMEN to that. I was about to downvote the video lol.. until I fast forwarded the video for the answer. You were spot on with the issue of no weather sealing. I would suggest maybe putting that up front in the videos though vs 11 min in. I complained about this to DJI back in the pocket 1 days and when I got the pocket 2 as well. @DJI doesn't seem to listen to anyone but influencers. Same with #GOPRO removing the GPS module in the 12, they dont listen . Hopefully, they figure this out if they do another one!
Great vid, I am a total hobbyist on a budget. I have a hero 9 and just forked out for an insta X3, then the pocket 3 just came out and I'm like ooooooohhh ahhhhhhh... but I don't need it, and you've helped me make that decision. Cheers, subbed.
exactly... for me i will hopefully find the funds to get the pocket 3 and use alongside the hero12. plenty of great use cases for me... but you are dead right.. if i could only choose one.. action camera all the way. but as an extra outside device for good weather.. it is fantastic
I came to the same conclusion but its because of the background blur. Bokeh is great for portraits, interviews and products and despite what people seem to think DOESNT = instant professional look. I'm outside in landscapes and I want all of that in focus while I'm also in frame. Low light performance and a built in gimbal are great features but I still feel like I'm waiting for the perfect vlog setup to exist. I don't want to drop 1000+ CAD to not be able to be outside in rain and have 60% of my frame be a blurry blob. Probably going to buy another sony camera as I already have a gimbal and the action 4. If the A4 had the low light of the P3.. would anyone buy the P3?
@@imboredDB Hey there! I dont have a gimbal for my action 4 (its digital stabilization is already so good). What I meant was I have an Rs3 gimbal for a future Sony camera instead. Someone was selling it for 200$ locally because they won it and didnt know what it was lol.
i'm Currently using my S22 on a tripod with a wireless audio mic , with the mic attached to my lapel, i video myself in fishing matches and edit them and put them on my you tube channel . I now want to get a camera for doing this job, i am thinking Go pro 12 or DJ action 4 , or would the sony ZV-1F do the job . But i must be able to have a wireless Mic attachment as the camera will be away from me and there will be wind noise on some occasions . I also need to be able to hit record from a remote as i will be sitting on my seat box and i cant keep getting up and down during a match. And being a fisherman it could get damp from misty weather . i love the look of the Pocket 3 but worried it wont be as hardy etc . I basically need a camera i can stop and start from my seat box with out having to get up and re adjust . Any advice would be greatly appreciated .
I think the A4 held up really well. The exposure would be even better if you held it up higher and filmed down on yourself a bit (less backlit scene). It's what I do with the A1 and it makes a huge difference. Since I do hiking videos, I will get the A4 once they're cheaper. Didn't like the form factor of the P2 but plan on using it for studio stuff.
Thanks for this video, it's one of the best I've seen. Now that I also live in Ireland, where it's rainy and gray most of the time, it makes a huge difference on which camera to use
Yeah it’s such a challenge to film outside here half the year because of the overcast skies. I use full frame mirrorless cameras when I can for content on my main channel but sometimes you just want a lightweight option
Hi mate thanks a lot for this pretty detailed review ;) is there a way to disable the background blur on the pocket 3? By for example using a selfie stick ?
Great video and comparisons, but I still dont know which one to get, I dont really do any action filming, its just food and travel vlogging, so I think the P3 would suit better, but I'm scared I'll drop it and break it!
I appreciate the "if i could have one camera" aspect of the review as I feel that is my #1 roadblock to making more videos... too many cameras, too much editing. One camera to rule them all. So I watched everything and for 90% I was completely confused as EVERY"box" was checked for Pocket 3. Only thing you gave the nod to on the Action was the "i dont like as sharp an image". So finally at the end you hit it with the waterproof aspect... which ugh feels a little misleading/unfair based on title. Maybe it should be "One reason why I dont use the P3"? My comment to folks callig out these "ya knew this going in" issues.... "Its like buying a Tesla being fully aware of the tech, and then doing a video to saying your going back to gas engines because I drive across the country and I have concerns over the battery range issues and waiting to charge". YA KNEW THAT GOING IN! ha thanks for the nicely done video. My P3 comes in this week and if anything your video makes me feel better about my purchase.
Great Video. I've been making videos and streaming for the past 2 months with the pocket 3, but its very fragile and I had an incident where I thought I broke it. The action 4 looks good, and probably better for vlogging and IRL livestreams. Maybe I'll pick up the hero 5.
I have the Pocket 3 combo with the mic, however when I attach the mic to my cloth the sound is too low. to have good sound I must get it as close to my mouth as possible . I am impressed with the sound quality of yours, did you increase the mic gain, or you improve it in post? you live in very beautiful place and great comparison . subscribed
Hmm strange, I didn’t do much to the audio. Maybe adjusted the level a little afterwards but that’s normal. Just used the normal settings. Thanks! If you want to see more around where I live, I’ve got lots of videos on my main channel: Stephen J Reid
Hello My friend, I hope you may answer me, I am thinking of purchasing one of these cameras. Mostly 50% outdoor 50% indoor shooting, what do you prefer in my case, could you give me any advice? Should I purhcase them with that transmitter mic? @@stevestechemporium
Pocket is not meant to be a waterproof action camera, your conclusion is based on a false premise that the pocket need perform in harsh conditions. I'm a scuba diver, would I compare my pocket 3 to my Hero 11 with a protective housing used at depth? My M3 Cine in not waterproof either, should I compare that Hasselblad camera to the Action 4? Thanks for the click bait!!
This video was created, because I personally know several people who were planning to buy this camera as their sole camera for making outdoors videos. I think the pocket three is a fantastic camera, but just not as the only option for outdoor vlogging
This video was created, because I personally know several people who were planning to buy this camera as their sole camera for making outdoors videos. I think the pocket three is a fantastic camera, but just not as the only option for outdoor vlogging
I use an Action 4 + iPhone 14 PM combo. I can get wide/weathered shots and closer/shallow DOF shots (I know it's not the same quality as a Pocket 3) but it does the job without having to purchase/carry an additional device.
I have the P3 and the A4 and they are indeed different types of camera's, but I have a lot of fun with it and it is nice that they now have the same menu structure. Clear video, otherwise top.👍
best comparison I have seen so far to directly compare both. I also use it outdoors in similar conditions. So I would love to have the lens and image quality of Pocket 3 - but at the moment Action is more versatile for me. I am curious what the Action 5 will have as specs. Perhaps I will upgrade my Action 3 to 5 then or a Pocket 3 - Let's see in 2-3 weeks.
The Pocket 3 is WAY too narrow, if you vlog all day your arm will fell off. A 20mm equivalent is an in-between that doesn't quite work well for vlogging nor for filming. After long consideration I think this why I will not buy it.
I disagree, 20 mm is fine for vlogging. We have just become too used to the extreme wide angle look. There is, however a 15 mm adapter you can get for it
i have the action 4 and reallyl like a lot both the images and the video, although I love how amazing the pocket 3 is in low light, for some people it may be worth it paying more because if you record indoors with the AI tracking it will be like having your own camera man recording you all the time with great footage. It all depends on the use case scenario, but the action 4 is for any type of scenario so I got myself one.
Excellent work ...!!! thank you ...!!! cheeeerrrsss ...!!!...you know after this a bought both ...!!!..mainly because I also do a lot of underwater filming. Again ,thank you , for a very useful review . 👍
Thank you, I am in the process of deciding how to blow a tidy sum on filming kit for my own channel. I have been using a pocket 2 but I've outgrown it. Was looking at swopping that in for an Action 4 at Cex (pretty much a straight swop price wise) and then getting a full frame mirrorless for my main camera. Rain is definitely an issue for the pocket series, has been a real limiting factor last couple of years.
The Pocket 3 is far less conspicuous than when holding up the Action 4 or a camera phone, this is good for many people who just want to film without grabbing too much attention from the general public
Glad to see a UA-camr who has common sense and crop the footages to fill the whole 16 by 9 aspect ratio instead of leaving it uncropped with massive black bars on the top and bottom. Seriously what those people trying to achieve? UA-cam compresses the footage anyway so they're just wasting so many pixels.
You must have terribly short arms, for me the Osmo Pocket 3 is not that close to my face. something is wrong here, maybe you have digital zoom turned on? It doesn't look like that for me unless I have an osmo within 1 foot of my face. You hold the osmo in your hand and the action is on a selfie stick - what is the point of this "test"?
Well - I have the Action 1, the Action 2, the Fimi Palm 1, the Fimi Palm 2, the Pocket 1, the Pocket 2, and - nothing in the bank. So for the time being, I won't be getting either of these. But the Pocket 3 would suit my uses most - except for jazz gig recording, until someone else has tried that and confirms that it won't overheat. There's some mutterings about that from EU users mainly. And there are reports that the clever rotating screen goes inexplicable haywire after a few days for a few people. So I'm going to wait and see and save. Great video, thanks.
I’m not surprised, every single time a camera comes out there are videos with issues. Happened loads with the Action 4 too. This is a more delicate camera though so more easily broken
Thanks so much for making this. Excellent video with clear observations about these 2 cameras. It seems then that overall the Pocket 3 is more versatile, but won't cope when the weather turns Irish! By the way, as a Norn Iron bloke myself, I appreciate you not saying "cemera" for "camera", etc etc. We don't talk posh well! 😄👍
Do you ever use the Action 4 internal audio, and if so, do you find it has a lot of handling noise? I find with the Action 4 it picks up all this noise through the mount, so any movement on what its attached to - so my hand moving on the selfie stick, or the backpack clip as I walk, sounds very loud, as though I'm directly touching the mics...this is not something I ever had issues with my GoPro 9. DJI tell me its normal but I've never heard anyone mention it.
Most of this video was with Action 4 internal audio. I use it all the time. Occasionally get mount noise, just have to be careful. GoPro has same issue.
That won't happen on action camera's I think. Make it a 1 inch sensor and it introduces depth of field (blurry background) like in the pocket 3. That's not what you want on action camera's. In order to fix that they would have to decrease the aperture to make the entire image in focus. But that in turn makes the exposure darker, which counters the reason why you wanted a bigger sensor in the first place.
Friend, I went to your video to finally see 1 reason not to buy the Pocket 3 but you gave me like 10 more to do so! Of course it's not an action camera!
What the hell happened to that P3 footage? Did you record in 24 fps and rendered it as 25fps? The A4 footage is smooth but the P3 footage is a pain to watch.
Both 25fps. I think I know what you mean and it’s how the gimbal stabilisation looks when side by side with a very wide angle action camera. It looks fine when just on its own I think.
great review, I have the Pocket 2 and am going to keep it rather than upgrade to the 3, must say the Action 4 really impressed, and it is also a bring anywhere camera I might invest thanks again
These are my initial thoughts based on the differences between these cameras. I'll be making more Pocket 3 content in the future showing its features in more depth.
The problem :
"Dear
Thank you for contacting DJI Technical Support.
We are grateful to assist you with your concern.
Regarding your situation, we are sorry to inform you the main camere battery cannot buy singlely, we recommend you to buy the battery handle to help yo solve this issue. This could also help you solve the battery life issue."
So you trow away the Pocket 3 in 2 years maximum when battery no longer charges.
@@meninim5054 What does this mean?😮
@@meninim5054 is this an issue with the pocket 3??
Thanks for the heads up about the weather protection….it’s important in the real world 👍
I prefer the action 4. I like wide for travel vlogging. But the pocket is good, that device functionality can replace a camera for a ton of situations.
Really great in-depth comparison of the two cameras! We've been going back and forth between the two and I think you made our decision much easier with the fact that the Action 4 can withstand the elements!
I almost went with the Pocket 3, but decided on the Action 4 for one reason. I can get an accessory that will allow me to clip it onto my backpack and film while walking and still have use of both hands. I film travel vlogs, and wanted a camera that is waterproof, drop proof and inconspicuous. I watch a lot of Noel Phillips, and he convinced me to go with the Action 4 since much of my use case would be similar to his. Thanks so much for the video!! ❤️✊🏾
@@tonygauthierjr I think I’ll be making the same choice 👍
I really like how well thenOA4 works, but the FOV perhaps a bit too wide. The GoPro 12 etc has slightly better (otherwise I lean more toward the OA4). OP3 better for vlogging IMO, OA4 for any outdoor adventures, especially if you want to get a better idea of your environment and less on you. Thought it did ok through most of the trees if not too dark, sometimes actually better. Well done btw! Liked the rain end!
From some1 who owned the Pocket 1 I despise the way the camera works and the way the video looks like, action camera all the way it just gives you a real fov perspective and you easily focus on what you want to shoot at.
The best choice would be to have both. I've used my Pocket 3 in the rain (heavy rain!) a few times, as well as during a snow fall and even hail! But... with an umbrella. Cumbersome, and just a small, old umbrella, but never any problem whatsoever with the Pocket 3- and that's here in Canada! Got a few drops of water on the lens, or other parts now and then, but nothing serious. By the way Steve, I'm assuming the Action 4 and the Insta360 Ace Pro are kind of similar. Is there one you would recommend over the other? Thanks!
The greatest thing about the pocket 3 is that it's ushering in 1 inch sensors.... hopefully!!!
i would never sacrafice image quality for wet proofing.i just made a wee umbrella for it problem solved. cheers tho great video
What do you do when the wind is blowing the rain sideways? Although maybe the weather in Ireland is worse than wherever you’re from
I could throw my GoPro on the ground and it would be fine, won’t be doing that with the pocket. We might get a good dry winter to get the pocket 3 out, surely. 🤔
Top notch comparison video 👍🏻
Well unless it landed on the lens on a rock, but yeah generally proper action cameras fairly indestructible. Yup I think the pocket for dry days
But the gopro is a completely different product and does not have advanced mechanics in it that would break. Compare it more with other gimbal devices.
hello,
What is the recording of both camera in 4k60fps in daylight with a single battery??
I have a 4 and debating whether to get the Pocket 3 as a second 📷 ( or first) for vlogging Can't make up my mind😢
Why my Action 3 is used most days and my original Pocket was sold on eBay, great camera but I drop things I’m old😬
Great honest review 👍. When I had the pocket 2 was scared of dropping it up the mountains and also no use in the rain . 3 looks like a good job for vlogging on a nice dry day . Will stick with my GP 11 for the time being even though I like the way the action 4 makes your face look thinner which I could do with 😂😂😂
Yeah I can see me using the Pocket for dry days. Or as Paul used it on our camp, for low light
@@stevestechemporium it def has its place . Let’s hope DJI come out with something like the pocket but fully waterproof and built like a tank 😁 maybe the pocket 4 in 10 years time 😂
Are you shooting normal colour profile or dlog
Wow pocket 3 amazing 😮
But osmo 4 wins here by mic and wide view!! Lovin the quality of video on pocket too..thanks bro for the review im gettin osmo 4
Maybe I can put suran rap over the lenses
must say it is a shame that is not weather proof and it really doesn't help in most European environments during autumn.
Indeed! Means you can’t rely on it as only camera if filming outdoors.
Thumbs up
The pocket 3 is worth to be bought just for the bigger sensor for low light footage but, I find it too expensive for such a delicate, little, badly designed stick - the idea is good but the conceptual design is flawed. The action camera is useless. I would rather just use my phone.
It’s actually the cheapest 1-inch sensor camera that I’ve seen on the market.
@@stevestechemporium I enjoyed your review - very well made but I realized (already before watching your review) I really don't need neither of these cameras. I did see some great cinematic looking night city walk footages and some creative clips and that was impressive.
My take on the Pocket 3 is that it's something you would use casually, creatively and carefully - you drop it once and it's over. I guess it's really designed for its purpose - for a vlogger. If it was made to be used professionally, it would designed with military-grade materials and design, ideally modular, with big battery options etc etc. I would have designed a solid, modular cube with option of interchangeable mini-lens (for portability) and many other add-ons, to make it into something really unique and appealing. I've seen mini lens on ebay for smartphones - very cool idea.
So the real answer is get both
Action 4 is too wide!
It works well for some things but I agree, I’d prefer a more natural FOV
I ownthe Action 4 and I completely agree that it's simply too wide for vlogging. I've tried changing the screen resolution to 2.7k (16×9) narrow it crops the image and removes the ward appearance, but still doesn't appear natural. The Action 4 is great for wide angled establishing or quick on the go type shots. It all depends on your needs.
@@stevestechemporium which one you recommend for beginner. I don't have any idea about colour grading
Use narrow at 1080
100% agree with you Steve. It's the biggest reason I purchased the Action 3 and stopped using my Pocket 2. Also the reason why I won't purchase the Pocket 3. Along with not being weather sealed, it's just too fragile to use in the outdoors for hiking, camping, etc. I had to return my Pocket 2 a couple of times for repair, because the gimble had problems after a small knock.
Great video mate. 👍
It can be used for all those things, Paul Messner used his on his last video. But you have to be very careful with it and avoid the rain and still need a waterproof option. Just in case. No ideal for people only wanting to use one camera
yes, "Action 4" is far behind "pocket 3". Look at your face it is all in blure!!!
These gears are meant for different scenarios. If you need to talk a lot to the camera, pocket3 is the go-to choice. It really enhances your on-screen charisma.😂
Thanks! 😂
So I bought the Pocket 3 and will sadly be returning it for the Action 4. Vertical/ Portrait mode is way better than the Pocket 3. Ive decided to start making shorts/ reels as that seems to be the way the world is going with attention spans getting shorter and shorter. The pocket 3 crops the image as you know thus not making it very wide. Thanks for the video
A weather sealed gimbal on a Pocket camera would be awesome. I use these cameras for recording marathon videos. The races I run usually start in the dark and weather can be unpredictable. I've used my Pocket 1 for low light since the mechanical gimbal is better than digital stabilization in low light, and I've used gopros for bad weather and the replaceable batteries. Many races I've brought both. Now I have the Action 4 which is better in low light than my old gopros. Keeping the shutter speed above 1/120 and cleaning up the noise in post is my current plan. If weather wasn't an issue, The Pocket 3 would check all the boxes for me.
Yeah I was kinda gutted when I saw it wasn’t weather sealed. Nearly didn’t buy one, but I’m impressed with the other features so thought I’d try.
Interesting... I agree about the stabe on the ZV-1, but I think the Pocket 3 is doing a better job than Sony - at least from what I can tell. I usually have to go in and add stabilization [even with SteadyShot on Active] for my ZV-1 footage. It sure crops in a lot, ugh.
Yeah the P3 doesnt use active stabilisation so no crop unlike the ZV1 and the wider angle lens helps a lot too
@@stevestechemporium I guess the gimbal is doing all the work then - and it did a fine job, from where I sit.
Great video and some good observations to consider. Thank you! I was subconsciously breathing while watching to help you a little 😅
What an excellent review. Thanks for taking the time to do this 👍
It's about the right tool for the right job. I'd like a weather sealed Pocket, but I'm finding the tracking in combo with the mobile app incredible for self shooting. The Action 4 is what I'd use for adventure sports or foul weather. The Pocket 3 is what I'd use for actual video making in good conditions where I want nice looking shots. They're two totally different products for very different purposes. Which camera to use if you only need one camera? Well, it depends. If you're nutters like us and want to film stuff in horizontal rain, then the Action 4 will clearly win. But this frames the Pocket 3 in the negative. It's a complex decision process, and ultimately, if someone is on a budget and can only have one camera, they need to get the one that suits what and where they will shoot the most. And that could be equally the Action 4 or the Pocket 3. Remember, most normal people aren't like us. They avoid the wet rainy stuff!
Huh. I was going to say all that, and you got there first. Spoilsport. :)
Agree with all this and hopefully the point I made in the video. Different tools.
But I’m aware of lots of people thinking this will be the perfect camera for hiking and camping and outdoor vlogs. But they don’t realise how much more of a delicate camera it is.
Actually think it’s fairly revolutionary in terms of the capabilities. But not the option for everyone if they can only have one camera
@@stevestechemporium I am sometimes a bit perplexed as to why they didn't make it weatherproof. There have been weatherproof gimbals available in the past, so it is possible. Maybe someone will come up with a waterproof dome system for it? Rain drops might be an issue, but it would at least make it possible to use in inclement weather.
They released a dive case for previous version
@@stevestechemporium yeah, they did, though it was limited as to the pan and tilt that was possible.
damm near perfect comparison. YOU GOOO BOYYY. THIS IS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT. LESS HOGG WASH TALK AND MORE COMPARO 🤌🏾🤌🏾🤌🏾🤌🏾🤌🏾🤌🏾 VERY. WELL DONE MY GUY SHOUT FROM NYC🤙🏾
Discovered your channel recently because I'm hesitating between the Pocket 3, the Action 4 and the Insta360 X3: Love your videos!
I already have a nice camera (a6600, very soon becoming the a6700) and a great combo of lenses.
I want that no mas, no fuss tiny small camera I can carry anytime anywhere (motorbilke, hiking, camping with the kids). I live in the UK, so it's just as rainy as you in Ireland.
You're making a crucial point regarding the Pocket 3 !
While I love the idea of 360 shots and the creative possibilities, the exposed easily scratchable lenses, as well as the slightly worst reliability, are making me lean more and more convincingly towards the Action 4...
Keep up with the good content !
Heeey ma man! Which one did you go for?
Does pocket 3 have less of a dynamic range, or is it just in this scenario that it looks like 3 is overexposed while the colours in 4 seem to have plenty of wiggle room in the grade?
The pocket 3 has face priority so it exposes for faces which can make the background brighter and skies seem like they have less detail. I think you can switch it off.
I've already bought the P3 but that was an excellent comparison. The PD3 blows the A4 out of the water in every department, bar ruggedness/waterproofness. I'd say the PD3 is the ultimate vlogging camera, but I'm wondering if there's still a gap in the market for something like the ZV-1 but with a wider angle and better stabilisation. Otherwise we'll continue to pigeon hole action cams into vlogging cams.
Many rebiew said that Action 4 is worst in (extrem) dark place. But I think, Why do I record dark place? I want to shoot something, someplace. I want to record view, building, people. I don't need to go to extrem dark place if I want to make contents.
Both cameras are actually too Good but it's depends on you on how you will use these cameras, OA4 is a good choice, If you do a lot of sports or outdoor activities then for sure OA4 is best of because of durability but if your not doing die hard outdoor activities than P3 is good even it will handle little worse outdoor activities, I owned OA4.
Currently I'm considering to give up my OA4 for P3 as most of time , I shoot videos outdoor with extremely low light situation, where Obviously P3 perform much better than my OA4.
AMEN to that. I was about to downvote the video lol.. until I fast forwarded the video for the answer. You were spot on with the issue of no weather sealing. I would suggest maybe putting that up front in the videos though vs 11 min in. I complained about this to DJI back in the pocket 1 days and when I got the pocket 2 as well. @DJI doesn't seem to listen to anyone but influencers. Same with #GOPRO removing the GPS module in the 12, they dont listen . Hopefully, they figure this out if they do another one!
Great vid, I am a total hobbyist on a budget. I have a hero 9 and just forked out for an insta X3, then the pocket 3 just came out and I'm like ooooooohhh ahhhhhhh... but I don't need it, and you've helped me make that decision. Cheers, subbed.
exactly... for me i will hopefully find the funds to get the pocket 3 and use alongside the hero12. plenty of great use cases for me... but you are dead right.. if i could only choose one.. action camera all the way. but as an extra outside device for good weather.. it is fantastic
Yeah this is the best way. Combo with action cam
I came to the same conclusion but its because of the background blur. Bokeh is great for portraits, interviews and products and despite what people seem to think DOESNT = instant professional look. I'm outside in landscapes and I want all of that in focus while I'm also in frame. Low light performance and a built in gimbal are great features but I still feel like I'm waiting for the perfect vlog setup to exist. I don't want to drop 1000+ CAD to not be able to be outside in rain and have 60% of my frame be a blurry blob. Probably going to buy another sony camera as I already have a gimbal and the action 4. If the A4 had the low light of the P3.. would anyone buy the P3?
Hi, may 8 ask which gimbal you have for your Action 4?
@@imboredDB Hey there! I dont have a gimbal for my action 4 (its digital stabilization is already so good). What I meant was I have an Rs3 gimbal for a future Sony camera instead. Someone was selling it for 200$ locally because they won it and didnt know what it was lol.
@@jonnymurgatroyd856stabilization is good but drains battery and terrible low light
i'm Currently using my S22 on a tripod with a wireless audio mic , with the mic attached to my lapel, i video myself in fishing matches and edit them and put them on my you tube channel . I now want to get a camera for doing this job, i am thinking Go pro 12 or DJ action 4 , or would the sony ZV-1F do the job . But i must be able to have a wireless Mic attachment as the camera will be away from me and there will be wind noise on some occasions . I also need to be able to hit record from a remote as i will be sitting on my seat box and i cant keep getting up and down during a match.
And being a fisherman it could get damp from misty weather .
i love the look of the Pocket 3 but worried it wont be as hardy etc .
I basically need a camera i can stop and start from my seat box with out having to get up and re adjust .
Any advice would be greatly appreciated .
Half year later, what did you choose?
@@VTun1ng The Action 4 , all good so far
I think the A4 held up really well. The exposure would be even better if you held it up higher and filmed down on yourself a bit (less backlit scene). It's what I do with the A1 and it makes a huge difference.
Since I do hiking videos, I will get the A4 once they're cheaper. Didn't like the form factor of the P2 but plan on using it for studio stuff.
Yeah the A4 is a really solid camera, especially if you shoot d-log m and colour grade.
I chose the action 4 for now I def wouldnt mind the P3 but im really happy with the osmo and from this video in terms of quality it is no slouch
Me too! I love this camera, I do Plan to get the pocket 3 eventually though
Thanks for this video, it's one of the best I've seen. Now that I also live in Ireland, where it's rainy and gray most of the time, it makes a huge difference on which camera to use
Yeah it’s such a challenge to film outside here half the year because of the overcast skies. I use full frame mirrorless cameras when I can for content on my main channel but sometimes you just want a lightweight option
Wide is problem in p3 because travellers are showing the view and background views best of action 4 maybe only brightness differences
Hi mate thanks a lot for this pretty detailed review ;) is there a way to disable the background blur on the pocket 3? By for example using a selfie stick ?
Selfie stick would reduce it by moving the camera further away from your face but it’s a fixed aperture so no way to switch off
Worth a try thanks mate :)
Great video and comparisons, but I still dont know which one to get, I dont really do any action filming, its just food and travel vlogging, so I think the P3 would suit better, but I'm scared I'll drop it and break it!
That’s why I carry an umbrella. ☔️😁
I appreciate the "if i could have one camera" aspect of the review as I feel that is my #1 roadblock to making more videos... too many cameras, too much editing. One camera to rule them all. So I watched everything and for 90% I was completely confused as EVERY"box" was checked for Pocket 3. Only thing you gave the nod to on the Action was the "i dont like as sharp an image". So finally at the end you hit it with the waterproof aspect... which ugh feels a little misleading/unfair based on title. Maybe it should be "One reason why I dont use the P3"? My comment to folks callig out these "ya knew this going in" issues.... "Its like buying a Tesla being fully aware of the tech, and then doing a video to saying your going back to gas engines because I drive across the country and I have concerns over the battery range issues and waiting to charge". YA KNEW THAT GOING IN! ha thanks for the nicely done video. My P3 comes in this week and if anything your video makes me feel better about my purchase.
I like to start with the positive as starting with the negative will then cloud the rest of the video.
Great Video. I've been making videos and streaming for the past 2 months with the pocket 3, but its very fragile and I had an incident where I thought I broke it. The action 4 looks good, and probably better for vlogging and IRL livestreams. Maybe I'll pick up the hero 5.
The pocket 3 is better in every way except rugged & weather sealed. If i coyld id get pocket 3.
Yeah if not potentially needing to shoot in damp conditions or action, the Pocket 3 is amazing
Just one question when it comes to editing do both camera footage blend good together if there both set to same setting thanks
Yes I’ve used them both together and the colours are very similar
I have the Pocket 3 combo with the mic, however when I attach the mic to my cloth the sound is too low. to have good sound I must get it as close to my mouth as possible . I am impressed with the sound quality of yours, did you increase the mic gain, or you improve it in post? you live in very beautiful place and great comparison . subscribed
Hmm strange, I didn’t do much to the audio. Maybe adjusted the level a little afterwards but that’s normal. Just used the normal settings.
Thanks! If you want to see more around where I live, I’ve got lots of videos on my main channel: Stephen J Reid
just picked up the dii action 4 can't wait to start making content with it
They are both fabulous cameras 😎
Very true, different cameras for different jobs.
Hello My friend, I hope you may answer me,
I am thinking of purchasing one of these cameras. Mostly 50% outdoor 50% indoor shooting, what do you prefer in my case, could you give me any advice? Should I purhcase them with that transmitter mic? @@stevestechemporium
Action 4 for me bcoz of its audio quality, i dont have to attach a seperate mic. Its so crisp.
It is really impressive!
Pocket is not meant to be a waterproof action camera, your conclusion is based on a false premise that the pocket need perform in harsh conditions. I'm a scuba diver, would I compare my pocket 3 to my Hero 11 with a protective housing used at depth? My M3 Cine in not waterproof either, should I compare that Hasselblad camera to the Action 4? Thanks for the click bait!!
This video was created, because I personally know several people who were planning to buy this camera as their sole camera for making outdoors videos.
I think the pocket three is a fantastic camera, but just not as the only option for outdoor vlogging
This video was created, because I personally know several people who were planning to buy this camera as their sole camera for making outdoors videos.
I think the pocket three is a fantastic camera, but just not as the only option for outdoor vlogging
The audio on the Action 4 is amazing
Yeah it’s really good
Its not a competition between these two. The true dji creator kit is pocket 3, action 4 and mini 4 pro drone
True! But not everyone can afford that
Best comparison video at a great spot. ❤
I use an Action 4 + iPhone 14 PM combo. I can get wide/weathered shots and closer/shallow DOF shots (I know it's not the same quality as a Pocket 3) but it does the job without having to purchase/carry an additional device.
I have the P3 and the A4 and they are indeed different types of camera's, but I have a lot of fun with it and it is nice that they now have the same menu structure. Clear video, otherwise top.👍
They are a good combo, covers you for a lot of senarios
best comparison I have seen so far to directly compare both. I also use it outdoors in similar conditions. So I would love to have the lens and image quality of Pocket 3 - but at the moment Action is more versatile for me. I am curious what the Action 5 will have as specs. Perhaps I will upgrade my Action 3 to 5 then or a Pocket 3 - Let's see in 2-3 weeks.
The Pocket 3 is WAY too narrow, if you vlog all day your arm will fell off.
A 20mm equivalent is an in-between that doesn't quite work well for vlogging nor for filming.
After long consideration I think this why I will not buy it.
I disagree, 20 mm is fine for vlogging. We have just become too used to the extreme wide angle look. There is, however a 15 mm adapter you can get for it
Who in their right mind Vlogs all day ?
@@gbej1 vloggers.
Those for whom this cam is made for
@@pedgarage Nobody vlogs all day dude.
@@gbej1 try 5 minutes for a clip then
How about action 4 or ace?
i have the action 4 and reallyl like a lot both the images and the video, although I love how amazing the pocket 3 is in low light, for some people it may be worth it paying more because if you record indoors with the AI tracking it will be like having your own camera man recording you all the time with great footage. It all depends on the use case scenario, but the action 4 is for any type of scenario so I got myself one.
This was a great comparison! Thanks so much for all the detail and examples!
Excellent work ...!!! thank you ...!!! cheeeerrrsss ...!!!...you know after this a bought both ...!!!..mainly because I also do a lot of underwater filming. Again ,thank you , for a very useful review .
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Thank you! After that video I will keep my action 1 on my bag and buy a packet 3 for better quality 😁
Thank you, I am in the process of deciding how to blow a tidy sum on filming kit for my own channel. I have been using a pocket 2 but I've outgrown it. Was looking at swopping that in for an Action 4 at Cex (pretty much a straight swop price wise) and then getting a full frame mirrorless for my main camera. Rain is definitely an issue for the pocket series, has been a real limiting factor last couple of years.
The Pocket 3 is far less conspicuous than when holding up the Action 4 or a camera phone, this is good for many people who just want to film without grabbing too much attention from the general public
Glad to see a UA-camr who has common sense and crop the footages to fill the whole 16 by 9 aspect ratio instead of leaving it uncropped with massive black bars on the top and bottom. Seriously what those people trying to achieve? UA-cam compresses the footage anyway so they're just wasting so many pixels.
It just makes sense, impossible to tell the quality at 50% size
Op3 all the way
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ok, take it and go
Quality is best p3
If you were making reels which camera would you prefer?
The rain cut was perfect comedy, fantastic review. Subscribed!
You must have terribly short arms, for me the Osmo Pocket 3 is not that close to my face. something is wrong here, maybe you have digital zoom turned on?
It doesn't look like that for me unless I have an osmo within 1 foot of my face.
You hold the osmo in your hand and the action is on a selfie stick - what is the point of this "test"?
Both cameras where the same distance from my face
Well - I have the Action 1, the Action 2, the Fimi Palm 1, the Fimi Palm 2, the Pocket 1, the Pocket 2, and - nothing in the bank. So for the time being, I won't be getting either of these. But the Pocket 3 would suit my uses most - except for jazz gig recording, until someone else has tried that and confirms that it won't overheat. There's some mutterings about that from EU users mainly. And there are reports that the clever rotating screen goes inexplicable haywire after a few days for a few people. So I'm going to wait and see and save. Great video, thanks.
I’m not surprised, every single time a camera comes out there are videos with issues. Happened loads with the Action 4 too. This is a more delicate camera though so more easily broken
Thanks so much for making this. Excellent video with clear observations about these 2 cameras. It seems then that overall the Pocket 3 is more versatile, but won't cope when the weather turns Irish! By the way, as a Norn Iron bloke myself, I appreciate you not saying "cemera" for "camera", etc etc. We don't talk posh well! 😄👍
I feel like I am gonna strap an nd32 or 64 on that pocket
Do you ever use the Action 4 internal audio, and if so, do you find it has a lot of handling noise? I find with the Action 4 it picks up all this noise through the mount, so any movement on what its attached to - so my hand moving on the selfie stick, or the backpack clip as I walk, sounds very loud, as though I'm directly touching the mics...this is not something I ever had issues with my GoPro 9. DJI tell me its normal but I've never heard anyone mention it.
Most of this video was with Action 4 internal audio. I use it all the time. Occasionally get mount noise, just have to be careful. GoPro has same issue.
The action 4 would be perfect if that sensor from the pocket was in there. The lowlight needs to be way better for me
That won't happen on action camera's I think. Make it a 1 inch sensor and it introduces depth of field (blurry background) like in the pocket 3. That's not what you want on action camera's. In order to fix that they would have to decrease the aperture to make the entire image in focus. But that in turn makes the exposure darker, which counters the reason why you wanted a bigger sensor in the first place.
Friend, I went to your video to finally see 1 reason not to buy the Pocket 3 but you gave me like 10 more to do so! Of course it's not an action camera!
Excellent. You would be surprised how many people think it is an action camera though!
Which one is better for recording outdoor cooking/camping videos, DJI Pocket 3 or Action 4 ?
I have both and I would say the action 4 because it’s more rugged.
excellent, going to buy action 4
You look thinner on the action 4. As they say " The Pocket 3 adds 10 pounds"
😂 that’s the real reason to stick with the action 4
Spoon, knives and forks ppl!
Any way to mount the dji pocket 3 onto the bike itself? Wonder how it handles vibrations, etc.
It’s possible but you would be better off with a proper action camera
Action 4 has very creepy pics
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Is there a way to turn off the background blur?
No there’s no aperture control, it’s a fixed 2.8 aperture. If it wasn’t it would have terrible low light performance
Awesome review Steve thanks
What the hell happened to that P3 footage? Did you record in 24 fps and rendered it as 25fps? The A4 footage is smooth but the P3 footage is a pain to watch.
Both 25fps. I think I know what you mean and it’s how the gimbal stabilisation looks when side by side with a very wide angle action camera. It looks fine when just on its own I think.
@@stevestechemporium or it's the shutter speed?
I think I'll wait for the Action 5. thanks for sharing.
Me too
I'm also waiting for Action 5 pro.
Action 4 is so dark
great review, I have the Pocket 2 and am going to keep it rather than upgrade to the 3, must say the Action 4 really impressed, and it is also a bring anywhere camera I might invest thanks again
Must say I didn't regret anything of getting the 3! It is so much better the whole image quality is amazing.
The 3 is a huge upgrade on the 2. I was never happy with the quality from the 2 and the tiny screen so I didn’t keep it long.
like really good comparison!