Super interesting video! Thank you! We trade 0 DTE only long (naked) and only on the SPX. Advantages: 1) The high gamma works 100% for us instead of against us 2) Always limited and precisely defined risk (= purchase price of the option) 3) No exercise issues even until market close (cash settlement with SPX) 4) Unbeatably high liquidity with SPX. I'm looking forward to the continuation of the 0DTE video series!
SMB Capital is the real deal.... Seth and Garret have connected a very complex set of relationships (market internals to market sectors to price action) to provide us with an edge in trading. Very grateful to SMB Captial for providing this knowledge.
Seth and Garret are excellent educators, amazed by their ability to concisely explain the theory and practical application of these tools. I was able to quickly digest and get a mental context for how strong these trend days are with the Market Internal tools and the ETF filters. You've got a subscriber, looking forward to future videos thank you!
Good info to determine trending day vs non-trending. Theta as a percentage of the trade is high on a 0DTE option. Gamma distorts the premium like a lens. Say you go from 400 to 404 on a move (1%), buying 402C would maximize gamma capture. You might want to make sure this series covers market maker move too.
Great, great course guys !! I've paid other trading groups, I'm even life time member in a well known group supposed to be good (not true !!) but I started to make money trading after I read the Playbook and start following your channel! ... and free ! Great job SMB !!
@@vickybhatnagar6479 Indian markets are no different from Global Markets like the US. OPTION strategies can be applied to any liquid market including indexes like SPX, NDX with keeping in mind who has control and the changing market dynamics.
😂 I had to pause the video when you were talking about consumer staples. Everytime things are looking bad everyone runs out and buys up all the toilet paper.😂😂 Thank you for sharing your abundant wealth of knowledge, you guys are changing lives.
There are the credit spreads, now I am happy. I also have a list of inverse ETF's like SPXU, SQQQ, SDOW, etc... just to see if they are all red or all green or mixed along with the Offensive and Defensive Sectors. Good video guys!
Garrett had previously mentioned these ETFs in a previous video and I immediately created watchlists for these. They definitely can act as solid indicators of overall market sentiment. Thank you!
Great video! Would love how you guess manage the trade throughout the day. Especially for the credit spreads, where you put the stops. Because we do have days where the market will reverse on you and get close to your break even.
Even better for 'high conviction' (if IV skew is in your favor) sell the call spread to buy the put spread... force the market maker to short the stock to balance his delta. Now, you've neutralized your risk on vega and theta, and doubled your gamma and delta risk. Biggest downside is the commissions/fees on a 40-lot with 4 contracts per lot... that's 160 contracts. The fees/commissions will kill you! You've got to have a really great IV spread to make that work and need more than one standard deviation to overcome the trade expense. Thanks so much for the class. My biggest problem with 0-DTEs is market makers that will rob you on the spread. You've really got to work that spread for a good fill, and have a super liquid product to trade that size. Thanks again.
I don’t recommend 0 days to expiration contracts for traders with under 2 years experience. It won’t give you time for the trade to work and the time decay will destroy you.
Not true all depends what kind of trader you are. If all you do is scalp and ur in trades on average no longer then 20 min its fine . It all I’ve traded from day one
I don’t recommend it either. If you are taking straight calls or puts, you’ve got to be right right away and you have almost no ability to average in due to the time decay. It’s very risky.
Thank you for sharing your ideas. So far in the series, you talked about opportunities to trade on a trending day. Are you going to talk about opportunities to trade on non-trending days in later videos?
Setup on the SPY seemed pretty solid today for the more aggressive straight PUT options vs the debit spread. VOLD opened around -4 and by 10am was at -9. ADL hovered around -2000 for MOST of the day. Cumulative TICK started at almost -1500, though it went up throughout the day. I got into about one hundred -30 Delta PUT Options today around 10:30am EST. What kind of exit strategy makes sense with this type of play? I had set a 30% limit, but removed it because it looked like we would continue moving down and I didn't want to take a loss on my original position when it comes back down and even doubled down on MORE PUTS as the price was testing the 50 EMA. Was today just a strange day or did I mess something up following the strategy? These ~$6k hits are no fun :\
I should also mention, XLK was around even and SMH was up a little bit when I bought, but all the other offensive plays were down and defensive plays were mostly negative
I left a comment on the previous vid in this series explaning how I put this system to the test several months ago and I found in my opinion, minimal predictive ability of using these indicators because there were many times where you'd see evidence of a trend day and it never happened, or vice versa. I pointed this out in a fair, balanced, non-inflammatory way with examples, and they deleted my comment. What does that tell you? They actually inadvertantly helped me by doing that.
Great Tutorial, thank you so much. One question about the Strike price for deciding which puts to buy or calls to sell, I know you mentioned 30 Delta is sweet spot, do you consider ATR at all? if yes, how do you decide on the strike considering both variables?
Very useful. Effective way to keep things organized in the brain. As a preference, the I would like / love to have a TV template / chart / watchlist configured to be able to easily follow and to avoid interpretation mistakes. The "curious" audience may do it themselves. Thanks
From what I have learned these 0DTE options will work only when the trend is very strong and the options bought are not very far from the trading price. In most of the other cases the theta just eats up the value and we lose all the premium paid. Very very risky for small traders
Everyone talks about 0DTE options only for traders that have margin to do verticals, spreads etc... How about something useful for cash traders that can only trade directional ??????
newbie here, still learning, so sorry if my question's stupid. for the put debit spread, do you have to close the position to get the money? or do you get the money when it expires?
Great video BUT!!! They don't say that options allow traders to make money fast ONLY when they’re right, but if the market reverses, you can walk away and owe nothing!!! In this and other videos these gentlemen fail to mention that in order to profit from buying/selling an option you must be right in THREE ways: 1. You must choose the right stock; 2. Predict the extent of its MOVE, and 3. Forecast HOW FAST it’ll get there. If you’re wrong on even one of these three choices, you’ll lose money. But when you trade even with small capital, you only have to be right in one way - predictions of stock's movie. that's all and even if you fail you risk just small amount of the traded capital compared to the total amount in case of option trading...
What time of day is best to take a look at an ETF list like this and conclude that the market has been open long enough for this to be actionable information?
I still don't understand how to read the "thematic" ETFs. The other two baskets are quite obvious. What do bonds and the dollar tell us about the market?
This is great info; the skeptic in me wonders why they are giving this away. I wonder if this info is becoming stale with the improvement of algorithms and AI? If anyone has a theory about this, please feel free to respond and let me know. Thanks.
Go aggressively if the stock moves big after. Otherwise you should have gone less aggressive... In the hope that stock move more than 2 daily ATR in the remaining hours.
New to the game here. If you’re holding a put credit spread that expires in the money, do you have to close it out to collect, or does it automatically go in to your account?
I have been watching a lot of your videos, and averaging all three of my accounts. I am up over 150% for this year. However, what software do you guys use to create such use chart lists? Absolute change from open and oval are very hard to find to add as part of a list that can be sorted by these two column headers? Please advise on software that could do such. Thank you so much for all of your help, I couldn’t do it without your tutorials.
I’ll call myself out. I have an algorithm for post market volume and price action. It is coded to assign a value for the likelihood of the next day’s opening range being higher than the closing range. Yesterday it gave me a 0.03. I failed to use my own proprietary indicator today. Sometimes it’s more devastating to leave 80k on the table than it is to lose (x). Errors of omission are inevitable. I will never misunderstand why I failed to act today.
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Super interesting video! Thank you! We trade 0 DTE only long (naked) and only on the SPX. Advantages: 1) The high gamma works 100% for us instead of against us 2) Always limited and precisely defined risk (= purchase price of the option) 3) No exercise issues even until market close (cash settlement with SPX) 4) Unbeatably high liquidity with SPX. I'm looking forward to the continuation of the 0DTE video series!
SMB Capital is the real deal....
Seth and Garret have connected a very complex set of relationships (market internals to market sectors to price action) to provide us with an edge in trading.
Very grateful to SMB Captial for providing this knowledge.
you're welcome! happy to share
Very clear example of this trade! I have been in a discord and a live room for almost a year and this made it all clear in 30 min. Thanks guys!!!!
Garret and Seth are awesome communicators. !!! They make this so easy to understand.
I have been looking forward to this follow-up 0 DTE option video! Excellent and informative as always, thank you Garrett, Seth, and SMB team.
Glad you enjoyed it! We still have two more videos to come from this mini series
Seth and Garret are excellent educators, amazed by their ability to concisely explain the theory and practical application of these tools. I was able to quickly digest and get a mental context for how strong these trend days are with the Market Internal tools and the ETF filters. You've got a subscriber, looking forward to future videos thank you!
Good info to determine trending day vs non-trending.
Theta as a percentage of the trade is high on a 0DTE option. Gamma distorts the premium like a lens. Say you go from 400 to 404 on a move (1%), buying 402C would maximize gamma capture. You might want to make sure this series covers market maker move too.
I just stay around 40-50 delta which is usually right at the money
I’ve made crazy money on 0DTE but I took an L this week now I’m here humbled again I feel like shit hopefully this wisdom helps me out
He man , I’m on the same boat! Was humbled but I’m back at it. How long have you been trading ?
Great, great course guys !! I've paid other trading groups, I'm even life time member in a well known group supposed to be good (not true !!) but I started to make money trading after I read the Playbook and start following your channel! ... and free ! Great job SMB !!
love to hear that we are helping. we have almost 2K videos on our UA-cam for free at this point. more to come
Your previous video helped a lot. You guys mean a lot to me.
Bro, you think this can be applied to Indian markets?
@@vickybhatnagar6479 Indian markets are no different from Global Markets like the US.
OPTION strategies can be applied to any liquid market including indexes like SPX, NDX with keeping in mind who has control and the changing market dynamics.
awesome!
😂 I had to pause the video when you were talking about consumer staples. Everytime things are looking bad everyone runs out and buys up all the toilet paper.😂😂
Thank you for sharing your abundant wealth of knowledge, you guys are changing lives.
There are the credit spreads, now I am happy. I also have a list of inverse ETF's like SPXU, SQQQ, SDOW, etc... just to see if they are all red or all green or mixed along with the Offensive and Defensive Sectors. Good video guys!
much appreciated! Glad it was helpful
Garrett had previously mentioned these ETFs in a previous video and I immediately created watchlists for these. They definitely can act as solid indicators of overall market sentiment. Thank you!
you're welcome Jason!
@@smbcapital Maybe one day I'll be a part of your team. 😉
I love your tutorials. I have watched the videos several times to learn these secrets. Do you have a trade with me community? Thank you gentlemen 😊
Love your options tutorials. Have learned from your videos. Thank you for providing such great detailed videos 🙏
Great video! Would love how you guess manage the trade throughout the day. Especially for the credit spreads, where you put the stops. Because we do have days where the market will reverse on you and get close to your break even.
another good one. A good recap and utilization of the identifying a trend day vid.
thanks!
I'm About 2 Binge your Videos this weekend Thanks 4 Posting
Even better for 'high conviction' (if IV skew is in your favor) sell the call spread to buy the put spread... force the market maker to short the stock to balance his delta. Now, you've neutralized your risk on vega and theta, and doubled your gamma and delta risk. Biggest downside is the commissions/fees on a 40-lot with 4 contracts per lot... that's 160 contracts. The fees/commissions will kill you! You've got to have a really great IV spread to make that work and need more than one standard deviation to overcome the trade expense. Thanks so much for the class. My biggest problem with 0-DTEs is market makers that will rob you on the spread. You've really got to work that spread for a good fill, and have a super liquid product to trade that size. Thanks again.
I don’t recommend 0 days to expiration contracts for traders with under 2 years experience. It won’t give you time for the trade to work and the time decay will destroy you.
Not true all depends what kind of trader you are. If all you do is scalp and ur in trades on average no longer then 20 min its fine . It all I’ve traded from day one
I don’t recommend it either. If you are taking straight calls or puts, you’ve got to be right right away and you have almost no ability to average in due to the time decay. It’s very risky.
Not true. The strategy they teach here leverages 0 DTE.😊
your statement does not pertain to selling 0 dte credit spreads?
Then sell it
Thank you for sharing your ideas. So far in the series, you talked about opportunities to trade on a trending day. Are you going to talk about opportunities to trade on non-trending days in later videos?
Thanks Steve-O for the options trend analysis
Real powerful information from Garret & Seth love these videos!! Thank you !
thanks! we still have two more videos to drop from this series
Are you willing to share your watch lists and the thinkscript code for the columns?
Ever heard of proprietary information 😂
Garrett might have shared this on his twitter.
if he did, it is not easily found, but guess that is part of the hunt @@smbcapital
Good clip Garret and Seth. Well done and thanks.
thank you! They really work well together
@@smbcapital Good guys, clever!
Great videos. Keep up the good work.
thanks 👊
Its simple. The big funds already know what strike it needs to go to before they reverse price so they don’t have to exercise their position.
Setup on the SPY seemed pretty solid today for the more aggressive straight PUT options vs the debit spread. VOLD opened around -4 and by 10am was at -9. ADL hovered around -2000 for MOST of the day. Cumulative TICK started at almost -1500, though it went up throughout the day. I got into about one hundred -30 Delta PUT Options today around 10:30am EST. What kind of exit strategy makes sense with this type of play? I had set a 30% limit, but removed it because it looked like we would continue moving down and I didn't want to take a loss on my original position when it comes back down and even doubled down on MORE PUTS as the price was testing the 50 EMA. Was today just a strange day or did I mess something up following the strategy? These ~$6k hits are no fun :\
I should also mention, XLK was around even and SMH was up a little bit when I bought, but all the other offensive plays were down and defensive plays were mostly negative
I left a comment on the previous vid in this series explaning how I put this system to the test several months ago and I found in my opinion, minimal predictive ability of using these indicators because there were many times where you'd see evidence of a trend day and it never happened, or vice versa. I pointed this out in a fair, balanced, non-inflammatory way with examples, and they deleted my comment. What does that tell you? They actually inadvertantly helped me by doing that.
Great Tutorial, thank you so much. One question about the Strike price for deciding which puts to buy or calls to sell, I know you mentioned 30 Delta is sweet spot, do you consider ATR at all? if yes, how do you decide on the strike considering both variables?
Good stuff. Thanks!
You bet!
Very useful. Effective way to keep things organized in the brain.
As a preference, the I would like / love to have a TV template / chart / watchlist configured to be able to easily follow and to avoid interpretation mistakes.
The "curious" audience may do it themselves.
Thanks
Great idea!
GREAT KNOWLEDGE
🙏 thx!
From what I have learned these 0DTE options will work only when the trend is very strong and the options bought are not very far from the trading price. In most of the other cases the theta just eats up the value and we lose all the premium paid. Very very risky for small traders
they also suggested selling the credit call spread for a lower conviction day
Everyone talks about 0DTE options only for traders that have margin to do verticals, spreads etc... How about something useful for cash traders that can only trade directional ??????
thanks for the suggestion, this discussion has definitely come up.
Hello Garret & Seth - where does “Gamma” play into this?
this is fantastic.
thanks!
Awesome content ❤
Love this Series! Is there code somewhere for the watchlist %Change vs Absolute Change? Also how the color coding works?
Beautiful
today is gonna be a fun case to look at
great lessons!!! thanks a lot!!! go on!!!
Garrett, for RVOL, what is the historical number of days you like to use for AVERAGE VOLUME in the quotient calculation?
Thanks fot great videos!
newbie here, still learning, so sorry if my question's stupid. for the put debit spread, do you have to close the position to get the money? or do you get the money when it expires?
Hi, Garret. What app do you use for watchlist? Nice features to mark bold and color depending on conditions.
thxs
Great video BUT!!! They don't say that options allow traders to make money fast ONLY when they’re right, but if the market reverses, you can walk away and owe nothing!!! In this and other videos these gentlemen fail to mention that in order to profit from buying/selling an option you must be right in THREE ways: 1. You must choose the right stock; 2. Predict the extent of
its MOVE, and 3. Forecast HOW FAST it’ll get there. If you’re wrong on even one of these three choices, you’ll lose money.
But when you trade even with small capital, you only have to be right in one way - predictions of stock's movie. that's all and even if you fail you risk just small amount of the traded capital compared to the total amount in case of option trading...
I assume the reverse is true if sentiment is bullish. IE aggressive call spread vs put credit spreads.
Is there "a UVXY" for the VXN? I'm interested in the Nasdaq...
What time of day is best to take a look at an ETF list like this and conclude that the market has been open long enough for this to be actionable information?
9:40 - and continue to monitor
Where can i get your etf filter
thank you very good
Why not buying a put if the sentiment is strong bearish?
Are you still using OptionVue for backtesting? Currently looking for a solid backtesting software for options.
I still don't understand how to read the "thematic" ETFs. The other two baskets are quite obvious. What do bonds and the dollar tell us about the market?
This is great info; the skeptic in me wonders why they are giving this away. I wonder if this info is becoming stale with the improvement of algorithms and AI? If anyone has a theory about this, please feel free to respond and let me know. Thanks.
Do you guys do live trading?
Why not if you have a strong conviction just sell a put and roll ii or close if it goes in the wrong direction ?
Hi, can Analyze to Sell Option with the overnight anomalie in the market? Is this rentable?
Is it possible to share the slides for this and previous episode of this series?
what is the MA garrett uses?
I'll let Garrett come back to answer this one...
can you place an option trade before the market opens?
Go aggressively if the stock moves big after. Otherwise you should have gone less aggressive... In the hope that stock move more than 2 daily ATR in the remaining hours.
"They die and go to options heaven"
New to the game here. If you’re holding a put credit spread that expires in the money, do you have to close it out to collect, or does it automatically go in to your account?
If it's SPX, it will be automatically
I have been watching a lot of your videos, and averaging all three of my accounts. I am up over 150% for this year. However, what software do you guys use to create such use chart lists? Absolute change from open and oval are very hard to find to add as part of a list that can be sorted by these two column headers? Please advise on software that could do such. Thank you so much for all of your help, I couldn’t do it without your tutorials.
I am in the car, so I apologize for the poor grammar
I echo the query. Please let us know the software that provides change from the open.
Thanks
What do I know? But who holds options contracts until expiration?
What does "RVOL" stand for? Thanks!
Relative Volume
RVOL = Relative volume. measures the current volume to recent past volume. The higher the better
and if you are in a regular broker and have less than 25k you will get a PDT violation and can't trade margin anymore.
When I die, I want to go to Options Heaven.
I’ll call myself out. I have an algorithm for post market volume and price action. It is coded to assign a value for the likelihood of the next day’s opening range being higher than the closing range. Yesterday it gave me a 0.03. I failed to use my own proprietary indicator today. Sometimes it’s more devastating to leave 80k on the table than it is to lose (x). Errors of omission are inevitable. I will never misunderstand why I failed to act today.
QQQ settlement risk between the strikes ☠️
Do one have to calculate VOLD ratio manually everytime? I am not able to put it in the chart in tastytrade
Garret can you just marry me so I don’t have to trade anymore. 😓
unfortunately i’m engaged otherwise i would
@@garrettdrinon lol! Lucky lady. 😄
Really ARKK on the list of ETF this video lost alot of credibility off that pick alone
Reused video. Would like to see some different strategies in the future.
not true lol
We have covered this type of strategy in the past but this should be an entirely different take on it
These Jane Street guys are stealing our Indian retailers money
Yeh just like you used to poop on railway track and got H1B visas to poop on toilet in USA. 😂