played this game in july when it was mostly fixed enough, really enjoyed it and honestly hope we get a souldiers 2 with better controls or more options on the controls. its not easy circling through a dozen items i have or potions, gets me killed sometimes
As a metroidvania nut, I've been eyeing this game for awhile, basically since the Indeimous review. But of course I wanted no part of the ridiculous difficulty & frequent crashes/save issues.. so ive waited. Now I hear that most of the issues , on ps4, are fixed? My backlog is huge but it's on sale currently, so I'd give it a go if so... looooove that pixel art style.
Unfortunately I can't respond much on the ps4's performance, I played on Ps5 though and I can happily say I experienced zero technical issues, I think its a safe purchase and I really encourage you on getting it, its a great game.
I played this game recently on a ps4 standard and I can say it's a wonderful metroidvania. But there are several serious problems: the big one is that each saving can crash the game! The loading time is really long, even for the "fast" travel, the framerate tends to drop each time you defeat an enemy and there are some minor gliches. They released a 2.0 patch that make this game more unstable! It's really a shame because this game deserves these fixes, it's awesome.
Hello! Can you tell me if they fixed it? I'm experiencing something similar with the game Aeterna Noctis on the standard PS4. It's impossible to play. I'm looking for a new metroidvania and I became interested in Souldiers. But I don't want to go through the same frustration I went through with Aeterna. If you could let me know how the game is running now, I would be very grateful! Sorry for my English. I'm Brazilian. Thank you very much!
@@fagundeskun Don't worry, I'm Italian! 😆 I know that Aeterna noctis is really broken, I don't know how these games are now. But I think Souldiers is less broken than Aeterna, but you have to be patient and save often. I played Souldiers till the end
Quick question: is the 30 hours for 73%-ish completion account for end credits, or just roughly 3/4 of the entire game? Im not a completionist, but I do take time to explore and do as much as possible, and as such I’ll often finish games with a 70%-90% “completion” rate, meaning I didn’t do all the side quests, get collectibles, etc… So is that what you meant: 30ish hours to finish the game at 73% completed or 30-ish hours to see roughly 3/4th of campaign? Granted I realize this might be an odd, even nuanced, distinction, but one that may be important for new players. Thanks. This is incredible review. One of the best out there. Truly shines. You’ve earned a sub.
First off thanks so much for the kind words man! I’ll be posting content again in January I had to take a little hiatus because of work. It’s a great question though in this specific review I meant 3/4 of the game. Keeping in mind I was doing my best to comb every inch and do all the side quests. I’ll definitely make sure to make that clearer in the future . I’ve got some pretty good games to talk about soon!
Love this review! So well written and explained and aware of various fan’s perspectives on fun factor. The best, part, however, is coming back to the game after its I trial release to see how it’s improved (or not) after updates. So many games these days get bad initial reviews and wind up improving to greatness but by then the damage is already done and nobody realizes what a gem it is. Hands down, your take is one of the most appreciated approaches to game review I’ve seen. Keep it up. Thanks. You’ve earned a sub
Just bought this on sale for $13.99 . Im glad i saw your updated review. A lot of people dog piled on this game and i just felt all the hate for it. But your review changed my mind. Im gonna tackle this beast and come out victorious.
I played thru the re-release and is now trying the OG. New master is still quite far from OG warrior both in terms of numbers tuning and check/save point layout. IMO quite a lot was lost with the re-release. Maybe it's because I've played the game once already, but while the OG felt frustrating and punishing (incredibly so at points), it's also generally fair. (obvious exceptions being project 0.5. 70+ dmg true combo that leaves you with paralysis when your player has like ~80 hp is not ok; A mage is prolly straight up ded.) i think people mostly felt frustrated because they were expecting to fight trash mobs with their brains off or sight read bosses while spamming the attack button. Most enemies only have 1-3 attacks, bosses maybe 3-5, all of which are easily avoidable with clear damage windows afterwards. Once I made myself slow down and learn to dodge before trying to attack it felt fine. Meanwhile the re-release added save points in many sorely needed places, but in doing so also released almost all the tensions of exploration. There's no satisfaction or catharsis upon getting to the next save point if the last one was only a minute ago and there was never any question as to whether you would make it. There's also no feeling cleverness by of opening shortcuts at strategic times to use them as checkpoints etc. The game also actually has too much healing if you aren't saving them for the next fight, then the next, then the next etc. I'm on track to have like all 7 of the half/full heals for the final fight again, and will probably save them for ng+ there too. Over half of my frustrating progress losses are still from trying to conserve potions despite actively trying to not do that. I don't know those who are frustrated are doing the same, or are perhaps even more stingy. But the OG does have some real problems. I had to restart the horse race quite a few times due to lag (and eventually reloaded every attempt). I've had project 0.5's room bug out on me a few times (solution is to find a pattern to close the doors before fighting), and fell into the void climbing down a ladder (actually a softlock) and lost all my unsaved progress in fire temple once. Backup your save i wanna say at least once a dungeon if playing the original.
Might give this another go. My save got corrupted right as I got to the last boss. I loved most of the experience, especially after they nerfed the difficulty.
Sounds like perhaps this is one of those games we can come back too after awhile. Let it lose its magic to time to later return and rediscover I had to do that with Ghosts of Tsushima. 100% everything in first, second area and by then, as gorgeous and as much fun I had, I had leveled up basically everything I had and seen the magic it offered. Just got stale after a bit. (I realize that’s heresy) Had to let it go and return. I had spent hundreds of some hours in just those first two lands and the entire game can be beat in less than that. This is, if I may offer side note, the biggest issue I have with big open games. I do everything. Level up to max and then nothing left to see or do, other than story and sometimes I’m just not as engaged in story to keep going.) Again. Great review. Super well done. Much appreciated.
Nope you’ve hit the nail on the head. I agree with everything you said. There was nothing inherently wrong with this title. I do think that overstaying your welcome is a design flaw BUT everyone has a different threshold for what that means.
im playing this now on ps4. Goddamn, i think the devs really hate the players lol. im currently at the fire temple and there was this one platforming work where you need to jump from a wall to an electrified elevator to another wall with another electrified elevator. it took me 15 minutes to finally pull it off. i feel like the platforming at some parts is too much, a lot of platforming needs to be precise, too precise lol. still love the game though, but i feel like casual gamers wont enjoy this game.
I dont mind precise platforming at all, I love Celeste and other games of that nature, unfortunately the game isn't as responsive as pure platformers so sometimes those sections can feel super brutal lmfaooo I totally feel you
I was having a really hard time getting into it just because of how hard it is. I play all FromSoftware games and this one almost broke me. Right now, I'm plowing through the game with a mage in the Floating module and it feels like one of the best 2D games I've ever played. It takes forever to have the impression that your upgrades really make a difference and that's probably what killed the game for a lot of people. I am totally invested now and I enjoy the metroidvania aspects. It's fantastic and if it had been easier, a lot more gamers would praise it to the level it deserves. The load times on the native PS4 are crushing. I had made the decision to download the PS4 version instead of the PS5's and it was a mistake Since I can't use my PS4 save to continue the game on my PS5, I downloaded the PS4 version to play on my PS5 and the load times are noticeably better. The load times on the PS5 version are much quicker, of course, but it's going to have to wait for my next game, if I choose to do a second playthrough. Not sure about this one! I will beat this game!
Thanks for the review! Your review was literally a roller coaster. Seemed like you loved it,then hated it,and ended up giving it an 8.5.... hmm.. I'm thinking about getting it as it's on sale. What are some of your favorite metroidvanias? Cheers
Hahaha thanks so much for your comment, to be fair it was a roller coaster for me as well emotionally while playing there are some very high points in this game and then some points that I was like man can we wrap this up 😂 if it’s on sale man I totally recommend though. That question is tough for me Metroidvanias are my favorite genre but I’d have to say Hollow Knight, Blasphemous and Grime and Astalon are some of my favorites. I really really loved Aeterna Noctis but I did a review on that game also and while it could have been in top 2 for me the crashes were really bad on ps5 … what are a couple of yours?
dude...game is excellent, honestly if you see it on sale and you have the extra bread I do still suggest the game... for me it was still worth it even though I never finished ...Thanks for the comment!
I mean it's totally a preference thing man. For me 20 hours is the sweet spot. There are games like Elden Ring and Diablo that I have no problem with the length. I just think it's so difficult for a game to be truly engaging for 40+ hours and a lot of games in just my opinion become worse as a result. For example I LOVED this new Final Fantasy but I'm about 53 hours in and I don't know if I'm going to finish it the game has some of the worst pacing and in my opinion really drags down the experience.
I've never understood this argument either, I only buy games I enjoy, if you don't like it then why even bother? A$20 game should be a minimum of 20 hours, anything less would be way too short, I don't want games to respect my time, I want them to respect my wallet by giving me enough content to warrant a purchase to begin with
This game is a great metroidvania, but the Desert level is where I called it quits. I've played too many metroidvenias, beat all the souls games multiple times (im currently working to 100% Celeste ), beat Salt and sanctuary / sacrifice, Hades, Dead Cells, the list can go on but the Desert Pyramid area is complete nonesense. Every dungeon drags on soooooooo soooo long, backtracking, find this, now go through these doors that take you to complete random areas with teleporting enemies that dodge your attacks and attack in a split second, area of effect enemies, projectile enemies, enemies that debuff, poison enemies, enemies then immobilize you all in the same room at the same time. Great game but im done for now till they rework the dungeons
I guess i was one of the few that could get through the original release. Not all of it. With that said i just got my physical copy and I'm kind of excited to hear it's more approachable. Sounds like I'll have more fun this time. I'll probably start from the beginning even though I'm pretty far into it.
you think i'd like it if i liked hades and deadcells? looking for some new stuff to try on my ps5. Just looking for something with addictive gameplay and not too much in the terms of story :)
While I don’t think this is comparable to the games you mentioned ( I didn’t like them either) I don’t think Souldiers fits in what you’re looking for… let me think about this for a second and get back to you I’ll give u a list of games to check out! :)
Grime Astalon: Tears of the earth Vernal Edge If you haven’t already Returnal Furi got upgraded for the ps5 with some dlc (it’s not a huge upgrade if you already played on ps4 though) Vengeful Guardian: Moonrider This is a wide range of games I know , feel free to check out my reviews I’ve reviewed most of them but these were some of my favorite recent games
@@grittygaming Thanks. i'm like a souls guy. I like variety though. I grew up with the snes so a lot of those games are fun to me for something different. Im finding stuff with good systems like hades to be fun. Metromania can be a thing as long as it's not too crazy with the backtracking. That bloodstain game honestly owned me as i got stumped i think after the like 3 areas lol. there was one called alwa's awakening to be great though, although i got stuck at a waterfall puzzle that all i had to do was press up to go in a door in the middle of a waterfall lol.
Just finished it and yeap, it’s a great game but it’s just too long for what it is. I’ve played RPGs of over a 100 hours so length isn’t usually an issue but it just isn’t interesting enough with enough variety to keep it fun for the duration of the entire game. Totally worth the play-through, but will definitely wait years before I’d think of playing through this one again.
I've never understood this dumb argument, why even buy a game that you don't enjoy? The only reason I got the game was because I like the gameplay, anything less than 20 hours would have been too short imo, I don't want games to "respect my time", I want them to respect my wallet by giving me enough content to warrant a purchase in the first place
So, i have a love hate relationship with this game, on one hand it's combat and mechanics are pretty well designed, but the map design is damn terrible in a lot of instances, like the pyramid having 2 maps but it being impossible to view the inner pyramid map unless you're there, or in places where the have moving platforms, making them take way too long to move into position. On top of that the fact it's maps are way too big and fairly repetitive in the sense they're not recognizable kills the whole aspect of metroidvania games where you remember a spot where you couldn't progress so you return after a new power
"...Couldn't beat it 3 more times for platinum" meaning you beat it? This came shortly after complaining the game was too long and you couldn't get through it all? I'm confused. Are you complaining that the game is too long, or that platinum completion is? Personally, I'm perfectly fine with stopping a game before I've done everything. In fact, I even love that there's more for me to look forward to if I ever decide to come back. I feel like I'm an oddball and no one else feels that way. Probably because I grew up in an era where most people I knew rarely beat games. It's hard for me to get a read on this critique though, to see what it would do for me. Different opinions are fine. It's just all about understanding the differences and if they'd apply to oneself.
The game is broken. When the soldiers who gave us the map at the beginning of the game take the map from there, the game gets stuck and none of the buttons work. It has been restarted 5 times. It always stays in the same place.
@@grittygaming its decent and enjoyable depending on the user.. helps to kill time and require backtracking from time to time.. heard its a long development time by one person (since the mid 2000s and released just before the switch console first announcement)... but my favorites are more like beat em up like final vendetta, fight n'rage and the takeover games.. there is a game like contra style just released, moonrider vengeful guardian (same game studio for blazing chrome) and upcoming bushiden game.. both have killer soundtracks... wanna see a indie game with dynamite deka gameplay style..
@@drifter4training yeah Moonrider was one of the first games I reviewed this year and my first platinum this year! Such a badassfucking game man! Imma check out some of these other titles you mentioned!!
Oof 😅 I’ve never played Vigil cuz it looks like it’s only switch and steam , but I just watched a review on it and it looks pretty good. Souldiers is about twice the length, for me I like shorter games so I’d probably pick Vigil. But I will say Souldiers looks like a much more unique experience if you’re willing to put the time in
@@kingoppsanti5830 bet do Souldiers then! , the devs poured a lot of love into the game, dungeons drag on a tad too long and it’ll take some getting use to the inventory system. But for the sale price I felt completely happy with the purchase and the bosses and art style are fucking awesome
I bought the game on PS4 after watching indie mouse play it..... nigga that Minotaur took me 3 days to beat.....game was hard and load times took forever but I beat it with the cross bow the first time high as heck, why!? Cuz the pixel art is beautiful. After the update......no joke....the game was really really easy....even after the warrior selection....my sadistic ass fell in love I guess....10/10 heard switch players got it worse
@@arik2216 yes ;_; 9 hours to be more accurate ^_^ About 3 hours a night I can’t game all day, life good no complaints but I have to jobs ^_^ being human rocks
Doesn’t feeling like a kid again account for the magic of modern games though? Is that not part of why we play? Ha. I get it though. For realz. Just jiving you. Sometimes we have to pretend we’re at least somewhat grown up. You know…bills and all.
This game had potential but was ruined by length, lack of diversity and confusing exploration... By the time you get to the fire cave, the game has over-stayed it's welcome! And the fire cave is just ANNOYING to boot! It was OK, but just got sick of it.... And it is NOT soulslike! Full blown metroidvania
Game too challenging or too long? So i take points out. In 2023, we are even offended that a dev takes the effort to make a long nice experience, and we bash at him for that? There was this streamer at Hollow Knight, who forgot his exploration points and asked his viewers where to go. While also bashing at them, for spoiling at him. Games dont need to be easier, and devs dont need to bend to public outcries by average bobs. People need to play better and more methodically.
Too be clear I did not remove any points at all for length , just because that’s a negative for me that’s not an objective negative towards my final score. I’m just voicing my opinion on the game for others to decide
Doesn't respect your time??? I've never understood this dumb argument about games, I don't want games to respect my time, I want them to respect my waller by giving me enough content to warrant a purchase to begin with, imo a $20 game should be a minimum of 20 hours, anything less isn't worth the purchase, I would feel like I wasted my money, this is one of the few metroidvanias that actually respects the money I spent on their game
@@grittygaming I believe a good developer can balance both quality and quanity because both are equally important, it doesn't matter how good a game is, if it's over in less than 10 hours then it doesn't really matter in these types of games progression is one of the most important aspects and you can't have decent progression without a lengthy game that warrants that progression, this is something that all RPGs have to balance, let's stop pretending that quanity isn't important because looking at most high quality RPGs, it's definitely important, most of the best selling games are either long or infinitely replayable, I think it's pretty clear most gamers value quanity of content, I'm sure some of them pretend they don't care but I guarantee if the next final fantasy or dragon quest were less than 30 hours ppl would start complaining
@@mathewhosier9739 listen bro I’m not gonna argue with you , I obviously didn’t believe it was balanced well, if you watched the video I mentioned other games that are good examples of length. I’ve played so many metroidvanias man, these dungeons fucking drag period. Glad u liked it tho homie!
![Infernax - All Bosses + [Normal and Ultimate Good] Endings [No Damage]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/NR2M-c-jojU/mqdefault.jpg)
played this game in july when it was mostly fixed enough, really enjoyed it and honestly hope we get a souldiers 2 with better controls or more options on the controls. its not easy circling through a dozen items i have or potions, gets me killed sometimes
Facts!!!! That potion system is so burdensome, would definitely buy a Souldiers 2 day one
As a metroidvania nut, I've been eyeing this game for awhile, basically since the Indeimous review. But of course I wanted no part of the ridiculous difficulty & frequent crashes/save issues.. so ive waited.
Now I hear that most of the issues , on ps4, are fixed? My backlog is huge but it's on sale currently, so I'd give it a go if so... looooove that pixel art style.
Unfortunately I can't respond much on the ps4's performance, I played on Ps5 though and I can happily say I experienced zero technical issues, I think its a safe purchase and I really encourage you on getting it, its a great game.
thanks for the comment by the way!
Looks like I'll be redownloading this. I knew something was off when I bought it day 1. Hopefully it's more enjoyable now.
Much more enjoyable man! Have fun!
Most likely not.
Now that it’s 2 months later, what did you think?
It is more better than before, now is a top Metroidvania
Switch version still has little lag now and then
for me, this is 1 of the best platformer Game on Switch. But too many Bugs and too often Crashed when plaing on Fire Temple Map
Dude such an excellent game I’m sorry to hear about the switch version though 😭😭😭
I played this game recently on a ps4 standard and I can say it's a wonderful metroidvania. But there are several serious problems: the big one is that each saving can crash the game! The loading time is really long, even for the "fast" travel, the framerate tends to drop each time you defeat an enemy and there are some minor gliches. They released a 2.0 patch that make this game more unstable! It's really a shame because this game deserves these fixes, it's awesome.
Hello! Can you tell me if they fixed it? I'm experiencing something similar with the game Aeterna Noctis on the standard PS4. It's impossible to play. I'm looking for a new metroidvania and I became interested in Souldiers. But I don't want to go through the same frustration I went through with Aeterna.
If you could let me know how the game is running now, I would be very grateful! Sorry for my English. I'm Brazilian.
Thank you very much!
@@fagundeskun Don't worry, I'm Italian! 😆 I know that Aeterna noctis is really broken, I don't know how these games are now. But I think Souldiers is less broken than Aeterna, but you have to be patient and save often. I played Souldiers till the end
@@Mighty_Anima Thank you very much! Well... I think Im gonna wait a little longer to buy It...
TY anyway! 👊🏻👍🏻
Quick question: is the 30 hours for 73%-ish completion account for end credits, or just roughly 3/4 of the entire game?
Im not a completionist, but I do take time to explore and do as much as possible, and as such I’ll often finish games with a 70%-90% “completion” rate, meaning I didn’t do all the side quests, get collectibles, etc…
So is that what you meant: 30ish hours to finish the game at 73% completed or 30-ish hours to see roughly 3/4th of campaign?
Granted I realize this might be an odd, even nuanced, distinction, but one that may be important for new players.
Thanks. This is incredible review. One of the best out there. Truly shines. You’ve earned a sub.
First off thanks so much for the kind words man! I’ll be posting content again in January I had to take a little hiatus because of work. It’s a great question though in this specific review I meant 3/4 of the game. Keeping in mind I was doing my best to comb every inch and do all the side quests. I’ll definitely make sure to make that clearer in the future . I’ve got some pretty good games to talk about soon!
Sweet Review ... thanks ... Buying ...
Love this review! So well written and explained and aware of various fan’s perspectives on fun factor.
The best, part, however, is coming back to the game after its I trial release to see how it’s improved (or not) after updates.
So many games these days get bad initial reviews and wind up improving to greatness but by then the damage is already done and nobody realizes what a gem it is.
Hands down, your take is one of the most appreciated approaches to game review I’ve seen. Keep it up.
Thanks. You’ve earned a sub
The game still suffers from broken controls. (wall-to-wall jumps for example and that nightmare of a level Pyramid)
Just bought this on sale for $13.99 . Im glad i saw your updated review. A lot of people dog piled on this game and i just felt all the hate for it. But your review changed my mind. Im gonna tackle this beast and come out victorious.
You got this man !!! Thanks for the comment by the way!!
Got my physical copy a couple of days ago, haven’t played the game yet, but it looks good.
Let me know what you think! I’m assuming on the switch?
I played thru the re-release and is now trying the OG. New master is still quite far from OG warrior both in terms of numbers tuning and check/save point layout. IMO quite a lot was lost with the re-release.
Maybe it's because I've played the game once already, but while the OG felt frustrating and punishing (incredibly so at points), it's also generally fair. (obvious exceptions being project 0.5. 70+ dmg true combo that leaves you with paralysis when your player has like ~80 hp is not ok; A mage is prolly straight up ded.)
i think people mostly felt frustrated because they were expecting to fight trash mobs with their brains off or sight read bosses while spamming the attack button. Most enemies only have 1-3 attacks, bosses maybe 3-5, all of which are easily avoidable with clear damage windows afterwards. Once I made myself slow down and learn to dodge before trying to attack it felt fine.
Meanwhile the re-release added save points in many sorely needed places, but in doing so also released almost all the tensions of exploration. There's no satisfaction or catharsis upon getting to the next save point if the last one was only a minute ago and there was never any question as to whether you would make it. There's also no feeling cleverness by of opening shortcuts at strategic times to use them as checkpoints etc.
The game also actually has too much healing if you aren't saving them for the next fight, then the next, then the next etc. I'm on track to have like all 7 of the half/full heals for the final fight again, and will probably save them for ng+ there too. Over half of my frustrating progress losses are still from trying to conserve potions despite actively trying to not do that. I don't know those who are frustrated are doing the same, or are perhaps even more stingy.
But the OG does have some real problems. I had to restart the horse race quite a few times due to lag (and eventually reloaded every attempt). I've had project 0.5's room bug out on me a few times (solution is to find a pattern to close the doors before fighting), and fell into the void climbing down a ladder (actually a softlock) and lost all my unsaved progress in fire temple once. Backup your save i wanna say at least once a dungeon if playing the original.
Might give this another go. My save got corrupted right as I got to the last boss. I loved most of the experience, especially after they nerfed the difficulty.
Sounds like perhaps this is one of those games we can come back too after awhile. Let it lose its magic to time to later return and rediscover
I had to do that with Ghosts of Tsushima. 100% everything in first, second area and by then, as gorgeous and as much fun I had, I had leveled up basically everything I had and seen the magic it offered. Just got stale after a bit. (I realize that’s heresy) Had to let it go and return. I had spent hundreds of some hours in just those first two lands and the entire game can be beat in less than that. This is, if I may offer side note, the biggest issue I have with big open games. I do everything. Level up to max and then nothing left to see or do, other than story and sometimes I’m just not as engaged in story to keep going.)
Again. Great review. Super well done. Much appreciated.
Nope you’ve hit the nail on the head. I agree with everything you said. There was nothing inherently wrong with this title. I do think that overstaying your welcome is a design flaw BUT everyone has a different threshold for what that means.
im playing this now on ps4. Goddamn, i think the devs really hate the players lol. im currently at the fire temple and there was this one platforming work where you need to jump from a wall to an electrified elevator to another wall with another electrified elevator. it took me 15 minutes to finally pull it off.
i feel like the platforming at some parts is too much, a lot of platforming needs to be precise, too precise lol.
still love the game though, but i feel like casual gamers wont enjoy this game.
I dont mind precise platforming at all, I love Celeste and other games of that nature, unfortunately the game isn't as responsive as pure platformers so sometimes those sections can feel super brutal lmfaooo I totally feel you
I was having a really hard time getting into it just because of how hard it is. I play all FromSoftware games and this one almost broke me. Right now, I'm plowing through the game with a mage in the Floating module and it feels like one of the best 2D games I've ever played. It takes forever to have the impression that your upgrades really make a difference and that's probably what killed the game for a lot of people. I am totally invested now and I enjoy the metroidvania aspects. It's fantastic and if it had been easier, a lot more gamers would praise it to the level it deserves.
The load times on the native PS4 are crushing. I had made the decision to download the PS4 version instead of the PS5's and it was a mistake Since I can't use my PS4 save to continue the game on my PS5, I downloaded the PS4 version to play on my PS5 and the load times are noticeably better. The load times on the PS5 version are much quicker, of course, but it's going to have to wait for my next game, if I choose to do a second playthrough. Not sure about this one! I will beat this game!
Thanks for the review! Your review was literally a roller coaster. Seemed like you loved it,then hated it,and ended up giving it an 8.5.... hmm.. I'm thinking about getting it as it's on sale. What are some of your favorite metroidvanias? Cheers
Hahaha thanks so much for your comment, to be fair it was a roller coaster for me as well emotionally while playing there are some very high points in this game and then some points that I was like man can we wrap this up 😂 if it’s on sale man I totally recommend though. That question is tough for me Metroidvanias are my favorite genre but I’d have to say Hollow Knight, Blasphemous and Grime and Astalon are some of my favorites. I really really loved Aeterna Noctis but I did a review on that game also and while it could have been in top 2 for me the crashes were really bad on ps5 … what are a couple of yours?
Very good review, unfortunately that kind of length is a dealbreaker for me. Such a shame, the game looks awesome.
dude...game is excellent, honestly if you see it on sale and you have the extra bread I do still suggest the game... for me it was still worth it even though I never finished ...Thanks for the comment!
Oh I was worried it was too short
Same. If the combat was as deep and varied as Dark Souls or Bloodborne, it might be able to hold my attention for that long.
Never understood the length problem that so many people have. Maybe try full immersion so you don't feel the hours passing?
I mean it's totally a preference thing man. For me 20 hours is the sweet spot. There are games like Elden Ring and Diablo that I have no problem with the length. I just think it's so difficult for a game to be truly engaging for 40+ hours and a lot of games in just my opinion become worse as a result. For example I LOVED this new Final Fantasy but I'm about 53 hours in and I don't know if I'm going to finish it the game has some of the worst pacing and in my opinion really drags down the experience.
@@grittygaming you can go full immersion so you stop feeling the hours.
I've never understood this argument either, I only buy games I enjoy, if you don't like it then why even bother? A$20 game should be a minimum of 20 hours, anything less would be way too short, I don't want games to respect my time, I want them to respect my wallet by giving me enough content to warrant a purchase to begin with
This game is a great metroidvania, but the Desert level is where I called it quits. I've played too many metroidvenias, beat all the souls games multiple times (im currently working to 100% Celeste ), beat Salt and sanctuary / sacrifice, Hades, Dead Cells, the list can go on but the Desert Pyramid area is complete nonesense. Every dungeon drags on soooooooo soooo long, backtracking, find this, now go through these doors that take you to complete random areas with teleporting enemies that dodge your attacks and attack in a split second, area of effect enemies, projectile enemies, enemies that debuff, poison enemies, enemies then immobilize you all in the same room at the same time. Great game but im done for now till they rework the dungeons
Love It, the best platform in switch ever.... Beautiful art, amazing music, i Love It!!
I guess i was one of the few that could get through the original release. Not all of it. With that said i just got my physical copy and I'm kind of excited to hear it's more approachable. Sounds like I'll have more fun this time. I'll probably start from the beginning even though I'm pretty far into it.
I wish we could get a sequel, I really enjoyed this game.
you think i'd like it if i liked hades and deadcells? looking for some new stuff to try on my ps5. Just looking for something with addictive gameplay and not too much in the terms of story :)
While I don’t think this is comparable to the games you mentioned ( I didn’t like them either) I don’t think Souldiers fits in what you’re looking for… let me think about this for a second and get back to you I’ll give u a list of games to check out! :)
If you can tell me a couple games you do like!
Grime
Astalon: Tears of the earth
Vernal Edge
If you haven’t already Returnal
Furi got upgraded for the ps5 with some dlc (it’s not a huge upgrade if you already played on ps4 though)
Vengeful Guardian: Moonrider
This is a wide range of games I know , feel free to check out my reviews I’ve reviewed most of them but these were some of my favorite recent games
@@grittygaming Thanks. i'm like a souls guy. I like variety though. I grew up with the snes so a lot of those games are fun to me for something different. Im finding stuff with good systems like hades to be fun. Metromania can be a thing as long as it's not too crazy with the backtracking. That bloodstain game honestly owned me as i got stumped i think after the like 3 areas lol. there was one called alwa's awakening to be great though, although i got stuck at a waterfall puzzle that all i had to do was press up to go in a door in the middle of a waterfall lol.
@@grittygaming Ohh thanks just replied when i posted. Okay i'll check those out. Yeah might look into returnal and vernal edge for sure:)
Wonder if the will make a sequel fixing everything
Just got this game for 11 dollars on ps5. Seems to be worth every penny and more so far
now included in nov humble bundle
Just finished it and yeap, it’s a great game but it’s just too long for what it is. I’ve played RPGs of over a 100 hours so length isn’t usually an issue but it just isn’t interesting enough with enough variety to keep it fun for the duration of the entire game. Totally worth the play-through, but will definitely wait years before I’d think of playing through this one again.
I've never understood this dumb argument, why even buy a game that you don't enjoy? The only reason I got the game was because I like the gameplay, anything less than 20 hours would have been too short imo, I don't want games to "respect my time", I want them to respect my wallet by giving me enough content to warrant a purchase in the first place
So, i have a love hate relationship with this game, on one hand it's combat and mechanics are pretty well designed, but the map design is damn terrible in a lot of instances, like the pyramid having 2 maps but it being impossible to view the inner pyramid map unless you're there, or in places where the have moving platforms, making them take way too long to move into position.
On top of that the fact it's maps are way too big and fairly repetitive in the sense they're not recognizable kills the whole aspect of metroidvania games where you remember a spot where you couldn't progress so you return after a new power
"...Couldn't beat it 3 more times for platinum" meaning you beat it? This came shortly after complaining the game was too long and you couldn't get through it all? I'm confused. Are you complaining that the game is too long, or that platinum completion is?
Personally, I'm perfectly fine with stopping a game before I've done everything. In fact, I even love that there's more for me to look forward to if I ever decide to come back. I feel like I'm an oddball and no one else feels that way. Probably because I grew up in an era where most people I knew rarely beat games. It's hard for me to get a read on this critique though, to see what it would do for me. Different opinions are fine. It's just all about understanding the differences and if they'd apply to oneself.
The game is broken. When the soldiers who gave us the map at the beginning of the game take the map from there, the game gets stuck and none of the buttons work. It has been restarted 5 times. It always stays in the same place.
think ya mean smphophy of the night
the gameplay kind of resemble owlboy
Is that game good? 🤔 I actually have it on my wishlist
@@grittygaming its decent and enjoyable depending on the user.. helps to kill time and require backtracking from time to time.. heard its a long development time by one person (since the mid 2000s and released just before the switch console first announcement)... but my favorites are more like beat em up like final vendetta, fight n'rage and the takeover games.. there is a game like contra style just released, moonrider vengeful guardian (same game studio for blazing chrome) and upcoming bushiden game.. both have killer soundtracks... wanna see a indie game with dynamite deka gameplay style..
@@drifter4training yeah Moonrider was one of the first games I reviewed this year and my first platinum this year! Such a badassfucking game man! Imma check out some of these other titles you mentioned!!
This or Virgil the longest night?
Oof 😅 I’ve never played Vigil cuz it looks like it’s only switch and steam , but I just watched a review on it and it looks pretty good. Souldiers is about twice the length, for me I like shorter games so I’d probably pick Vigil. But I will say Souldiers looks like a much more unique experience if you’re willing to put the time in
@@grittygaming both are on sale now. I like longer games. I’m so undecided 🤷🏻♂️
@@kingoppsanti5830 bet do Souldiers then! , the devs poured a lot of love into the game, dungeons drag on a tad too long and it’ll take some getting use to the inventory system. But for the sale price I felt completely happy with the purchase and the bosses and art style are fucking awesome
@@kingoppsanti5830 let me know what you decide tho!
@@grittygaming just purchased soulders for $16 bucks. Let’s see if I like it :)
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I bought the game on PS4 after watching indie mouse play it..... nigga that Minotaur took me 3 days to beat.....game was hard and load times took forever but I beat it with the cross bow the first time high as heck, why!? Cuz the pixel art is beautiful. After the update......no joke....the game was really really easy....even after the warrior selection....my sadistic ass fell in love I guess....10/10 heard switch players got it worse
Bruh 😂🤣 i know you got ptsd from playing this prepatch I know that shit was infuriating
What ? Minotaur took you 3 days ?
@@arik2216 yes ;_;
9 hours to be more accurate ^_^
About 3 hours a night
I can’t game all day, life good no complaints but I have to jobs ^_^ being human rocks
Beautiful game, best I been play since my childhood.
Of course, another reviewer who doesn't like long games. Makes sense.
🤷🏻 just didn’t hold my interest.. I’ve played 400 hours of Elden Ring etc … not every game needs to be long though . To each their own tho!
Doesn’t feeling like a kid again account for the magic of modern games though? Is that not part of why we play?
Ha.
I get it though. For realz. Just jiving you. Sometimes we have to pretend we’re at least somewhat grown up. You know…bills and all.
I'm suprised this game come from western developer. I though from japan.
If this game was super success, wester feminist would cry to cancel it.
Lol. Complains about length...
Not complaining about the length persay, the quality in that length. A lot of people agree with me the dungeons absolutely drag
This game had potential but was ruined by length, lack of diversity and confusing exploration...
By the time you get to the fire cave, the game has over-stayed it's welcome!
And the fire cave is just ANNOYING to boot! It was OK, but just got sick of it....
And it is NOT soulslike!
Full blown metroidvania
Game too challenging or too long? So i take points out.
In 2023, we are even offended that a dev takes the effort to make a long nice experience, and we bash at him for that?
There was this streamer at Hollow Knight, who forgot his exploration points and asked his viewers where to go. While also bashing at them, for spoiling at him.
Games dont need to be easier, and devs dont need to bend to public outcries by average bobs.
People need to play better and more methodically.
Too be clear I did not remove any points at all for length , just because that’s a negative for me that’s not an objective negative towards my final score. I’m just voicing my opinion on the game for others to decide
Also that streamer sounds terrible 😂🤣😂
True but if you played then you would know some areas just keep going
Doesn't respect your time??? I've never understood this dumb argument about games, I don't want games to respect my time, I want them to respect my waller by giving me enough content to warrant a purchase to begin with, imo a $20 game should be a minimum of 20 hours, anything less isn't worth the purchase, I would feel like I wasted my money, this is one of the few metroidvanias that actually respects the money I spent on their game
That’s ok man! We all have different things we want out of games :) I have no problem spending $60 on 8 hours lol
I believe in quality over quantity
@@grittygaming I believe a good developer can balance both quality and quanity because both are equally important, it doesn't matter how good a game is, if it's over in less than 10 hours then it doesn't really matter in these types of games progression is one of the most important aspects and you can't have decent progression without a lengthy game that warrants that progression, this is something that all RPGs have to balance, let's stop pretending that quanity isn't important because looking at most high quality RPGs, it's definitely important, most of the best selling games are either long or infinitely replayable, I think it's pretty clear most gamers value quanity of content, I'm sure some of them pretend they don't care but I guarantee if the next final fantasy or dragon quest were less than 30 hours ppl would start complaining
@@grittygaming I definitely have a huge problem spending $60 on a 8 hour game, most gamers would not buy something like that, that's called a rip off
@@mathewhosier9739 listen bro I’m not gonna argue with you , I obviously didn’t believe it was balanced well, if you watched the video I mentioned other games that are good examples of length. I’ve played so many metroidvanias man, these dungeons fucking drag period. Glad u liked it tho homie!
Maybe, the game STILL sucks because it's STILL broken. This game wins the award for the WORST character control EVER. TRASH.
Fun game but extremely long and boring. Main levels drag on and on🥱
I swear bro 😭 I still enjoyed my time but yeah man ALOT of padding