X4 Foundations: Shih a good fighter or best fighter?

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  • @net2000man
    @net2000man Рік тому +12

    My favorite small ship by far is the Pulsar Vanguard, 6 weapon slots (2x Ion Blaster and 4x Thermal Disintegrator) and is a BEAST of a personal ship for capturing S/M ships!! I even use it to go boarding and bring shields/hulls down for my boarding teams. I capture any number of L/XL ships that way, and the ship is light and maneuverable. As for a M ship, my personal favorite is a Dragon (6 weapon slots and 2 turrets), and I use that to shred anything Xenon or Kha'ahk that comes near me. Have fun!!

    • @T-Skillet
      @T-Skillet  Рік тому +2

      Both amazing ships and great choices!

    • @merendell
      @merendell 2 місяці тому

      personaly I'm partial to the Kuraokami when I'm going M. Sacrifices 1 weapon hardpoint and a bit of in combat speed for a second shield slot, more travel speed and a bit more maneuverability. I tend to find the dragon gets its shields depleated after a single zoomie flyby. Sure I probably vaporized one ship but 5 slots also tends to do that and I can make another pass because I still have half my shields left. I also prefer the higher travel speed as even the Kura is faster than most NPC builds in combat but the dragon takes ages to traverse a sector. I do agree on the pulsar for small though. Pulsar for combat and moreya for the zoomie explorer with a bit of combat bite to it.

    • @axinite2545
      @axinite2545 Місяць тому +1

      Ah, the Pulsar Vanguard yes excellent choice. I get one every playthrough and stick 6 of the split shotguns on it. Nickname it the "BoomBox". Can solo some L ships with that much damage output after taking down hield gens.

  • @franciscowillam2411
    @franciscowillam2411 Місяць тому +2

    Best S ship: Chimera
    Best M ship: Dragon Raider
    6 GUNS OF FREEDOM!!!

    • @T-Skillet
      @T-Skillet  Місяць тому +1

      Chimera has a contender now….. I’ll be comparing it and the other ships shortly.

  • @privateperson5054
    @privateperson5054 10 місяців тому +3

    Those are falcon vanguard wings from X3

    • @T-Skillet
      @T-Skillet  10 місяців тому

      That’s a good eye! I haven’t seen a whole lot of recycled stuff from X3. Never played Rebirth but I’m sure there is a lot from that game.

  • @davecrupel2817
    @davecrupel2817 2 місяці тому +2

    I've started going with survivability over mobility.
    Cause not only does everyone always target me and me alone, even when someone else is attacking them.
    But i can *Never. Ever. Fvcking. Evade. Their fire.* No matter what i do.
    So I've started going on the presumption that you aren't supposed to be able to evade their fire.
    So I've gone with survivability. so this kind of sounds like my kind of ship.

    • @T-Skillet
      @T-Skillet  2 місяці тому +1

      I'd also suggest an M or L class ship. Erlking is one of my favorites for a Player ships.

    • @matsveritas2055
      @matsveritas2055 11 днів тому

      Mobility = survivability.

    • @davecrupel2817
      @davecrupel2817 11 днів тому

      @@T-Skillet oh I don't do S or M combat. I want to. But i can't. I get smoked by a swarm that only cares about killing me. Then they immediately kill me post-ejection like im fighting in the Pacific Theater of ww2.
      Ls or XLs only.

  • @WhyNeke
    @WhyNeke 2 місяці тому +2

    Shih is 100% the best S ship you can get for a fleet (NPC). But for a player ship there is no competitors for Moreya.

    • @T-Skillet
      @T-Skillet  2 місяці тому

      Have you met my friend the Experimental Shuttle?!?! Lol I will say I think I like it better.

  • @Koshea69
    @Koshea69 Рік тому +3

    I typically don't compare fighters to heavy fighters as I use them for different reasons. In my estimation the Shih is the best Heavy Fighter, which does exactly what you want it to do, hold down big engagements out of sector. I think your asking for trouble if you try to do the same with the Kalis, it just doesn't have any firepower for a heavy fighter. Best use case for Kalis is tying up an opposing fleet until you can mobilize bigger guns to help win a fight. That's for heavy fighters. For regular fighters, I like your Asp but I raise you the Moreya, by far the best player ship if you want a small sized ship.

    • @T-Skillet
      @T-Skillet  Рік тому +1

      I did enjoy the Moreya in the last universe. I am attempting to cap one and their version of the Nem. But so far not successful.
      But if you can get the moreya it is fun, fast, maneuverable. Good quality ship… ya know for being part xenon.

    • @Koshea69
      @Koshea69 Рік тому

      Well, you get 2 of them out of the Terran Storylines (not to mention a syn, kurokami, and THE best way to grab the Xenon sectors Data Vaults if your into that) and if you don't rat the Yaki out you get more than enough rep to buy the blueprints as well. So unless this universe is a no or limited storyline shouldn't really need to wait for a cap to get it as a player ship, maybe if your trying to make fleets of them though.

    • @T-Skillet
      @T-Skillet  Рік тому

      No I need to gain the rep to start that story line! 😂 been…. Uhmm….. gathering a fleet is Asgards. 😁
      Attempted a run at a Syn but it’s 4 escort Osakas got in the way and there were a LOT of missiles in the air.

    • @nevar108
      @nevar108 Рік тому +2

      Been using the Kalis as a torpedo bombers for my OOS fleets; 1/4 of the carriers compliments as bombers. The shields let them get in and out to dock and reload on the carrier, especially if the heavy fighters are already engaged...
      Biggest issue is ships taking damage from "imminent explosions".

    • @T-Skillet
      @T-Skillet  Рік тому

      @@nevar108 I had that fea with the Blast mortar. But they have been good! Ship explosions are a little bigger though. Do you have an Aux ship with your fleet?

  • @Stormbreaker613UA
    @Stormbreaker613UA 10 місяців тому +1

    Well, my choices for S class fighter is POI Takoba and YAKI Moreya. They are the fastest ships in the game and very maneuverable.
    For heavy fighter is (Zyarth Patriarcy) Chimera. It has good HP, Very fast for heavy fighter + 5x guns.
    My take on S and M craft is that speed is a crucial factor. More speed = more chances to get out of a fight alive if things go sideways, and get in a fight more quickly. For an Ai pilot, it means if they get clapped, they have more chances to flee and don't lose a ship, than reengage after restoring their shield + don't abuse boost too much.

    • @T-Skillet
      @T-Skillet  10 місяців тому

      OSS or ISS for speed factor? Also i hate how the AI boosts away in a fight. It irks me to no end.

    • @Stormbreaker613UA
      @Stormbreaker613UA 10 місяців тому +1

      @@T-Skillet I have Tokyo carrier filled with 20 takobas with PAR Mk 3 Combat Engine (I builded them earlier, before getting Split stuff) and 20 Chimeras with split combat mk4 engine. They outrunning Xeno without any problems so I didn't had any problems with boosting at all

    • @Stormbreaker613UA
      @Stormbreaker613UA 10 місяців тому +1

      @@T-Skillet they currently just farming the gate without problems no matter where I am

    • @Stormbreaker613UA
      @Stormbreaker613UA 10 місяців тому +1

      Also I have 4 crazy speedy Katanas and each one of them has speed around 1800 m/s, and they managed to dismantle small pack of Xeno almost on their own (I have to just give order to flee and attack again couple times ) They don't use boost at all)

    • @Stormbreaker613UA
      @Stormbreaker613UA 10 місяців тому +1

      @@T-Skillet Just in case I'm taking about Speed parameter from ship Statistics Sheet. I don't know what parameters they have when I'm out of sector

  • @SergeyPupkoMusic
    @SergeyPupkoMusic 2 місяці тому +3

    The Shih reminds me of Minmatar ships from EVE Online. Both look like they're held together by spit, chewing gum and wishful thinking. XD

    • @T-Skillet
      @T-Skillet  2 місяці тому +3

      Don’t forget the duct tape! Lol

    • @SergeyPupkoMusic
      @SergeyPupkoMusic 2 місяці тому +3

      @@T-Skillet I do believe Duct Tape is too premium a material for the Minmatar. XD

    • @T-Skillet
      @T-Skillet  2 місяці тому +1

      lmao true!

    • @narfash-yt
      @narfash-yt 2 місяці тому +1

      "In Rust We Trust"

    • @matsveritas2055
      @matsveritas2055 11 днів тому +1

      @@SergeyPupkoMusic bro, there's nothing like speedmatar (before speednerf huzzah)

  • @thegoondockswarcouncil9543
    @thegoondockswarcouncil9543 Рік тому +2

    Do engines or thrusters matter for out-of-sector combat? Hard to find reliable info on what the OOS calculation is based on, but if engines/thrusters don’t affect it then maybe that’s a place to save some credits.

    • @T-Skillet
      @T-Skillet  Рік тому

      I know it affects weapons and hit chance. But for the engines and thrusters, I’m honestly not sure. That’s why I just use the Paranid engines. Teladi shields due to the more shielding points cause they like to boost away.
      I do believe the algorithm is all about hit chances since that is the only variable. Speed and thrust should be a constant stat based of the type.

    • @Matrix2Strata017
      @Matrix2Strata017 2 місяці тому

      Matters most for miners, higher speed = faster mining. More complex for combat ships, it matters to a small degree. It'd take longer than a comment to elaborate. Generally, just bring more numbers if you want to win.

  • @josephprins1258
    @josephprins1258 Рік тому +1

    I'm partial to the split ships but I really do like this fighter. If thin hulls are still a factor in piracy then Asp Raider has it's uses. Shih is slow in combat, Chimera get out easier. I think NPC work better with Shih though because the AI is dumb.

    • @T-Skillet
      @T-Skillet  Рік тому

      It’s is a good ship for the AI. In this universe I used the Shih with Kalis and Tokoba…. All three did really well together. Two tanks and an interceptor. Blast mortars for the most part. I started adding plasma at one point.
      With the intro of 6.2 and mines they might even be deadlier. I’m not sure on the AI’s determination for deploying them in combat though.

  • @1110jesse
    @1110jesse Рік тому +2

    I started the game with elite, it felt really bad but I knew it was the most junk starter ship so what can I do?
    I went to go do the boron mission chain and I got myself a Mako, it felt really good compared to the Elite, obviously.
    Did some quest grinding and money collecting, got myself a Barracuda. Boron weaponry kinda sucks, and having only 3 weapons is not really nice, but 3 boron shields (the best in the game) really made it a good training ship to learn to play the game.
    Some days later I did go meet the split, got the military license almost too easily (xen was invading Family Zhin at a steady stream, was great money grind opportunity for a noob that I was)
    Did more moni grind and got myself a Hydra, first ever medium sized ship. I really liked it against kha'ak, the fast and hard hitting projectiles really did leave a mark on them, and in return they didn't do much to my shields. against a bit bigger party of xenons tho, all I could do was run away. Can't send a corvette to do a fighters job.
    Got myself an Asp to try out, thinking it can't be too much better than barracuda, but it fking hell was so much better. Just the speed and not being restricted to boron weapons. I outfitted it with 2 gatlins and a plasma to blast those heavy Ps in the face.
    Some time after that I thought why not give chimera a chance, I had the money for it after I did set up a few miners for passive income and all that good stuff. Welp, it turns out 5 neutron gatlins can shred even P if I get close enough, and I was sold. Been using this ship ever since, just trying out a few different weapon setups every now and then. Kinda did settle for 2 pulses, 2 broton barrages and dumbfire launcher with heavy scatters. so I have maximum coverage, pulses take care of fighters, proton barrages incapacitate capitals and scatter launcher is enough to blow up destroyers and Ks if I throw enough money at the problem. Also, it tends to leave a nasty mark on medium crafts, if I aim well enough. Overall Chimera is my favourite ship in the game, outside of station demolition or boarding, it can really do anything.. even those "create opening" missions where I gotta go find a xenon station and blow up it's turrets while 200 defense drones are up in my butt, but after doing it twice I just decided to use destroyers in the future.

    • @T-Skillet
      @T-Skillet  Рік тому

      All those are great ships.... Welllll maybe not the Barracuda and Elite. But Mako, Hydra (my favorite M class), Chimera and Asp. Amazing. That's good you start felt your way through it. Plus that little spot you found in ZYA is perfect for grinding that rep up and making profitssss.

    • @mdjinroh1391
      @mdjinroh1391 4 місяці тому

      arent teladi shields the best, as i read?

    • @1110jesse
      @1110jesse 4 місяці тому

      @@mdjinroh1391 they have the highest shield value, but are also slow to recharge and have the highest recharge delay. in M and especially in S ships they are kinda the worst. on L ships high initial shield valus is kinda nice, especially if you can fit up to 3 shield genies on a single ship. that's why I always use teladi L miners. they just ignore kha'aks way better than other miners

    • @Matrix2Strata017
      @Matrix2Strata017 2 місяці тому

      @@mdjinroh1391 there's not really any best shield. The shields are specced according to their faction's play styles. Teladi has large cap, but long recharge, but notice they also don't carry many weapons. Teladi is a defensive faction. So, their shields are made for endurance until they get out of danger, so the shield can recharge. For their Caps, shields have big capacity, but a very slow recharge rate, same story. Also, notice that Teladi ships are very slow.
      Paranid would be the opposite, with Split being the absolute extreme. Notice, Split designs are very focused on firepower and speed, few shield slots, low shield caps (but a fast recharge), with higher hull to make up for their weak shields. For a Split, this means you have to strike fast and hard, and defeat your foes ASAP since they don't have the same endurance if their enemies manage to withstand their opening attacks.
      And if someone were to mix faction tech, it resides on the ship and the role. Chimera with Teladi shield sounds good on paper, but a Chimera has a fast combat speed which means that even though they can escape to recharge, it also means they need a longer downtime for the shield to start recharging. By this time, the Chimera may have returned to fight with little to no shield. It also means, it's a larger window for enemy flankers that might catch a running Chimera attempting to recharge. With a Split shield, or Paranid, it might actually survive better. Although, if you stick a Terran shield on, it's just as good, if not better.
      If you play with OOS, this complicates shields, because a faster Recharge rate, despite a very low capacity, can actually come out farther ahead than a higher cap shield with a slower recharge. The recharge rate just needs to beat the incoming DPS, so the capacity doesn't really matter except for extremely high burst damage. That's the general idea without making it too complex.

  • @neohelios77
    @neohelios77 Рік тому +2

    Kuraokami, fave for me.

    • @T-Skillet
      @T-Skillet  Рік тому

      The Yaki ships seem to be favored. They are cool looking for sure.

  • @michaelscotthawthorn7871
    @michaelscotthawthorn7871 Рік тому +4

    this video is not useful for new players. I have no idea what faction that ship belongs to .. CONTEXT .. lol

    • @1110jesse
      @1110jesse Рік тому

      You can get Shin from Vigor syndicate wharf in Windfall I Union summit, but you need the military license. The sector right above that one is Silent witness I and the big highway goes through that sector so it shouldn't be too hard to find.

    • @T-Skillet
      @T-Skillet  Рік тому

      Sorry! You are correct this was done not with a new player in mind that is my bad. But you can get it with the Vigor syndicate. You’ll typically start. It friendly with them and for what I’ve seen they don’t have a ton of them in their patrol fleets. The rep fiend can be a drag. BUT! Once done you get access to the Shih at level 10 and the Barbarossa at level 20.

  • @MrFalkor81
    @MrFalkor81 Рік тому +1

    Have you tried Boron ships? They are better when in large numbers.

    • @zeronim1965
      @zeronim1965 Рік тому +3

      Asgards in large numbers better...

    • @T-Skillet
      @T-Skillet  Рік тому

      I have two Asgards! Just found a 3rd but he is escorted by a few Osakas. I’m waiting on them to die before I pounce.

    • @T-Skillet
      @T-Skillet  Рік тому +1

      Due to production constraints on the Boron in my universe I have not been able to build more than 2 ships without a lengthy pause. Much like the split. I’ve read the Mako is good in numbers.

    • @trazyntheinfinite9895
      @trazyntheinfinite9895 Рік тому

      ​@@T-Skillet...
      Presses button to print next 10 assgurdles from the shipyard.
      Walks away.

  • @fgpraxis4463
    @fgpraxis4463 22 дні тому

    Balaur or Chimera or Moreya or...

  • @Rysdad1
    @Rysdad1 Місяць тому

    Hard to beat the chimera if traveling alot or Aries for fighting

    • @T-Skillet
      @T-Skillet  Місяць тому

      I will give you the first one. But I enjoy fighting with the Shih, a tad stronger than the Ares with the same amount of fire power. However the trade off is the traveling. But once i get into mid to late game i'm typically on a L class ship.

  • @minmaxtax
    @minmaxtax Рік тому +1

    For me its looks > everything. So Terran Gladius wins for me :D

    • @T-Skillet
      @T-Skillet  Рік тому

      It is a fine looking ship.... I just can get over the "wings," they are to long!

    • @minmaxtax
      @minmaxtax Рік тому +1

      But they don't Jiggle Jiggle, they fold! @@T-Skillet

    • @T-Skillet
      @T-Skillet  Рік тому

      HAHAHA that's great!!!@@minmaxtax

  • @s_oNEr
    @s_oNEr 4 місяці тому

    Still Yaki Moreya is best!!!
    1) Young Gun start
    2)sell stuff except 1 satellite - up engine to 2graade army and shield 2nd grade on equipment dock u start!
    You can up better if at find some pirate and capture his ship - for this take 1n crew member wich trips at doc near 3500 - 5000k credits.
    3) fly to the -- )Getsu Fune( -- and set satellite upper 20 km on top near Gate to the -- )Savage Spur( -- u need open Yaki Fraction - it open then u see 1st time something from this fraction, or can take quest to kill it fraction - it often meets to the way for set satellite.
    4) Global notification for s class battle ship Yaki all galaxy - but at start game Yaki sell expedition and u have a good chance meet them!
    5) They are enemy to player -25 reputation, but didnt interest to player!
    6) if u meet some moreyas saboteur - it sett solo mines in space - just capture it. Or brave (but save game) attack Yaki hive (moreyas and Kurokamy) flying around - if u just attack moreyas to force to abandon ship. they can just curse u but didnt hit u back! some times u can capture several ships - but be carefull yaki send marines to abandone ship! In this case u can capture some prisons!!!! with good stats 4 stars of boarding if u take ship first - just after take ship appointed to position prisoners yaki in ship hold!
    20 minutes - some times 35 u get Moreya from start!
    Perseus of Paranid - perfect easy ship - good speed! good control 2 guns 4 crew!!! - u can capture from police of paranide - in time you waiting then satellite notice some Yaki! )

  • @trazyntheinfinite9895
    @trazyntheinfinite9895 Рік тому +1

    But it looks like shit so its bad.

    • @T-Skillet
      @T-Skillet  Рік тому

      😂 what’s your S class of choice?