Last Civil War widow dies after keeping secret most of her life

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  • Опубліковано 9 січ 2021
  • Helen Jackson was, by most every account, the last surviving widow of the Civil War.

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  • @NoNo-ng9sl
    @NoNo-ng9sl 6 місяців тому +2071

    I think the fact the witness was still alive was a miracle itself. Just wow.

    • @kennybell5108
      @kennybell5108 6 місяців тому +40

      I wonder if the daughter who threatened the wife/widow is still alive.

    • @StarkIller-df7gw
      @StarkIller-df7gw 6 місяців тому +4

      Amazing story

    • @giftofspeech
      @giftofspeech 6 місяців тому +44

      @@kennybell5108 The daughter of the Veteran was older than Helen (the widow). So I doubt the daughter was or still is alive.

    • @ms_scribbles
      @ms_scribbles 6 місяців тому +35

      @@giftofspeech She's one of those people that make me hope that Hell is real. Her father was trying to give something back to a girl who took care of him in his last days, and that evil cow threatened to destroy her if she tried to get what her father wanted to give the girl.

    • @zazasnruntz7505
      @zazasnruntz7505 5 місяців тому

      Pretty sure absolutely no one outside of the white community cares

  • @mcq1125
    @mcq1125 7 місяців тому +1584

    My mother was born in 1918, and she says she remembers when she was young, seeing Civil War veterans marching in Memorial Day parades in her town.

    • @jmfa57
      @jmfa57 7 місяців тому +83

      My dad was born in 1919. He said the same thing.

    • @kaykayron2222
      @kaykayron2222 7 місяців тому +17

      very cool

    • @kamurray67
      @kamurray67 7 місяців тому +43

      Yes my father was born in 1918 in deep rural Mississippi. He and his siblings also had those same stories. My grandfather was born in 1878 and had relatives that were veterans.

    • @eligebrown8998
      @eligebrown8998 7 місяців тому +18

      Thinking about that today it seems like how that is possible because the war was befor the automobile, etc. But in reality, it really was not that long ago. When talking about the Civil War it seems like it took place 3 to 500 years ago.

    • @kamelhaj6850
      @kamelhaj6850 6 місяців тому +15

      My grandfather was born during the US civil war, but he lived in present day Poland at the time. His mom was born in 1829!

  • @jmace1957
    @jmace1957 7 місяців тому +1584

    In 1975, I worked with a woman who was 75 years old. Her father was a Civil War veteran who fathered her at age 65. In about 2005, I worked with a guy whose father was born in Indian Territory (Oklahoma) in 1905 and his grandfather was a Civil War veteran. It was not terribly uncommon in the South for an elderly veteran to marry a young woman as they received a veteran's pension for their entire life. It seems like it is so far away, but my grandfather (as a very small child) was hidden in the loft of their cabin "when the Comanches came" in Texas.

    • @JuneBug_87
      @JuneBug_87 7 місяців тому +35

      That’s amazing!

    • @DCJNewsMedia
      @DCJNewsMedia 6 місяців тому +47

      I hope she was able to get the pension with back pay due to duress under threat

    • @falconcorban4128
      @falconcorban4128 6 місяців тому +32

      @@DCJNewsMedia unlikely given how old she was, that pension likely was long gone by the time the story got out and the daughter that scared her out of it was probably dead by then given she was older.

    • @DCJNewsMedia
      @DCJNewsMedia 6 місяців тому +8

      @@falconcorban4128 you could be correct.

    • @Christianne-md2nd
      @Christianne-md2nd 6 місяців тому +7

      Great story! Thanks for sharing.

  • @StormyMonday0896
    @StormyMonday0896 6 місяців тому +1122

    This wasnt uncommon. My great grandmother befriended a widower at a nursing home. To repay her for her kind caring, he married her a few years before his death and gifted her his railroad pension

    • @JEdwarrd
      @JEdwarrd 6 місяців тому

      We also can't lose context. Women only got the right to vote 10-15 yrs before this mans death. In other words the society was deeply immoral, infantilized women & put old men in positions of power over girls from 13 -17+, if they reached legal age w/o a husband they "had to" become wives or be labeled a disgusting, ineligible spinster. The crash of 29' was caused by men taking risky bets, just like what happened in 2008.
      We normalize behavior as if ppl of that era didn't have a clue abt personal autonomy, which is incorrect & wrong.
      Abuse effects all humans, regardless if popular/ polite society cares to lead with compassion or not. This is what gets lost when revisiting history. They were no better, no worse, they were human. Just like today. We have different technology that effects us differently. But the core of who & what humans are has never changed. We just learn & grow (hopefully).

    • @matteframe
      @matteframe 6 місяців тому +27

      It's a great scam

    • @singingstars5006
      @singingstars5006 6 місяців тому +56

      If this were to happen today (a teenager marrying an old guy for his pension, no matter whose idea it was), no one would celebrate the union. It would be a terrible scandal. Yet this video acts like she was a victim and she should be celebrated. She never even lived with the man she married. I don't actually have a problem with the story but the media inconsistency.
      Now what is truly sad is she never remarried.

    • @JEdwarrd
      @JEdwarrd 6 місяців тому +55

      @@singingstars5006 Tell us u are bitter without telling us. lol
      We also can't lose context. Women only got the right to vote 10-15 yrs before this mans death. In other words the society was deeply immoral, infantilized women & put old men in positions of power over girls from 13 -17+, if they reached legal age w/o a husband they "had to" become wives or be labeled a disgusting, ineligible spinster. The crash of 29' was caused by men taking risky bets, just like what happened in 2008.

    • @gunnybunny4081
      @gunnybunny4081 5 місяців тому +38

      It isn’t uncommon today to have people in any nursing homes or end of life homes fall for or want to do this for their care giver & want to leave or give them everything they have in this world. This is how much people appreciate just being attended to & getting just a bit of someone’s time when they’re all alone. 😢

  • @bkind2025
    @bkind2025 7 місяців тому +758

    Her husband just wanted to take care of her as she took care of him. How sad that this happened to Helen. May she rest in peace.

    • @rickwilliams967
      @rickwilliams967 6 місяців тому +28

      This is an Anna Nicole Smith situation bud. Probably some grooming involved too.

    • @harbourdogNL
      @harbourdogNL 6 місяців тому +1

      100%. Or else she was a goldigger.@@rickwilliams967

    • @harbourdogNL
      @harbourdogNL 6 місяців тому +16

      Clearly she was a gold digger.

    • @sharonthebaron88
      @sharonthebaron88 6 місяців тому +64

      @@harbourdogNL An equal exchange is no one's robbery.

    • @harbourdogNL
      @harbourdogNL 6 місяців тому

      Money for pussy. has been going on since the dawn of time.@@sharonthebaron88

  • @camoss3724
    @camoss3724 6 місяців тому +343

    The last person to collect a Civil War pension was a woman named Irene Triplett, who died in 2020 at the age of 90. Her father, Mose Triplett, was first a private in the Confederate army before defecting over to the Union. He was just shy of his 84th birthday when she was born in 1930, and was nearly 50 years the senior of his second wife, Elida Hall, who was 34 when Irene was born. Since she had mental disabilities, Ms. Triplett qualified for the pension as the helpless child of a veteran. She received $876 per year.
    According to VA statistics from 2020, there were still 51 widows and children collecting Spanish-American War benefits.

    • @src3360
      @src3360 3 місяці тому

      Reparations to slave owners were finally paid off in 2008

    • @clay1883
      @clay1883 3 місяці тому +8

      Father at 84? Think he had some help?

    • @Roddy556
      @Roddy556 Місяць тому

      ​@@clay1883probably just wanted to make sure his wife and her lover's child was looked after

    • @toxichammertoe8696
      @toxichammertoe8696 28 днів тому +1

      WOW!

    • @BuzzKirill3D
      @BuzzKirill3D 21 день тому +6

      Several "holy shits" in that story. Not the least of which is the measly pension. "Interesting if true"

  • @OcotilloTom
    @OcotilloTom 7 місяців тому +654

    This actually wasn't unusual for the time. The Depression and other events at the time made it hard on folks, this was just one way to survive. Good for her.

    • @here_we_go_again2571
      @here_we_go_again2571 7 місяців тому +23

      Mothers and wives got the pensions; but not a surviving father.
      Railroad workers' pensions were set up so if the widow remarried she would lose the pension.
      (I do not know the rules regarding remarriage for Civil War widows)

    • @evil1by1
      @evil1by1 7 місяців тому +57

      Seeing as she never collected the pension you cant just claim economics and shrug it off. Personally I think the man's daughter is an awful person to deny her that. Sure she married him for the money but had she been paid for the caregiving she was providing that the daughter wasn't? Much like today probably not or at least not much more than a token sum and like today uninvolved families take that with an astounding air of entitlement. They want free or cheap care but also dont want to pay for it or allow the estate to pay for it. Its never their job to care for dad but who boy can they do some mental acrobatics to make it your responsibility and their entitlement.

    • @here_we_go_again2571
      @here_we_go_again2571 7 місяців тому +26

      @@evil1by1
      I would not be so quick, as you, to label
      Helen as a "gold digger"
      It is not unusual for a person to want to
      reward a caregiver in some way (usually
      in a will) However, if all the man had to
      offer was (obviously) that pension (that
      his kids could not get a hold of).
      I am assuming the family controlled his money
      or at least his assets at that point (or at least
      had control of most of the property.)
      The Great Depression was a tough time
      for almost everyone. Even people with
      surplus money as well as middle class
      professionals felt the pinch. For all
      we know, he was living off his savings
      at that point of his life.

    • @paulaneary7877
      @paulaneary7877 7 місяців тому +29

      @@here_we_go_again2571 Please re-read the comment. @evil1by1 is absolutely NOT calling the woman a gold digger, but is in fact in agreement with your comment.

    • @sheilatagg2699
      @sheilatagg2699 7 місяців тому +8

      But she didn't collect his pension?

  • @robertwilson6144
    @robertwilson6144 7 місяців тому +326

    My coach, John Hottenstein, told us that his mother was the last surviving recipient of a Civil War veteran’s spousal pension. At Coach’s funeral in Humboldt, Kansas in the 1990s we observed at the family plot that his mother was 19 when she became John’s father’s third wife. John’s dad was born in 1848 and served as a drummer boy for the Union. He married John’s mother after his first two wives died when he was in his mid 70s. She survived into her 80s, still collecting the last Civil War pension.

    • @ilovenoodles7483
      @ilovenoodles7483 6 місяців тому +2

      Wow!
      So, your coach's mother was this woman in the video.
      Pretty cool

    • @mikep490
      @mikep490 6 місяців тому +40

      @@ilovenoodles7483 Nope, a different woman. The woman in this story never received the pension.

    • @lovemoves3312
      @lovemoves3312 6 місяців тому +1

      @@mikep490you don’t know what the lady in this video received 🙄 1st admit that. And since the Secretary of Defense wasn’t at the funeral you attended you don’t know if the coaches wife was last recipient either. You need to stop telling that story like you administer the pension fund or something. Just cuz your coach 🙄 said it doesn’t make it true, sir. Geesh

    • @mikep490
      @mikep490 6 місяців тому +29

      @@lovemoves3312 "The last person to receive a Civil War pension was Irene Triplett, a daughter of a Civil War veteran, who died on May 31, 2020." "Following [Mr] Bolin's death Jackson decided against applying for the $73.13 monthly pension after Bolin's daughters threatened to ruin her reputation." Widows who married Civil War vets often kept it private, thus the reason there have been several "last widow" announcements since the late 90's.

    • @againstthegraingolf301
      @againstthegraingolf301 6 місяців тому +2

      @@lovemoves3312Lmaoo you sound miserable. People are telling their family history, and you seem mad about it. Have a cup of tea and relax.

  • @daenerysdivine1906
    @daenerysdivine1906 3 місяці тому +108

    A Vietnam veteran at a nursing home asked me to marry him, I kindly refused. He said he wanted me to have his house, car, etc. since I was so nice and I took good care of him. I still said no, but that it was kind of him to offer. He was so sweet. Always asking how I was and offering life advice. He told me some interesting things that happened in his life. He was a great guy.

    • @joea5228
      @joea5228 Місяць тому +4

      You don’t have to be married to bequeath property to that person.

    • @daenerysdivine1906
      @daenerysdivine1906 Місяць тому +24

      @@joea5228 I feel as a former caregiver if you take a gift from a person in a nursing home that is so huge you are taking advantage of them. (if it's a house, car, a lot of money). I always politely refused it.

    • @wholeNwon
      @wholeNwon 28 днів тому +5

      @@daenerysdivine1906 I agree and always declined to benefit from someone's vulnerability no matter how well-intentioned.

    • @---kx1xc
      @---kx1xc 27 днів тому +1

      I wonder if that's how concubines worked in the time of the book of Judges, besides just a way to show their financial stability, but maybe some wanted just to take care of the lady.

    • @misakit.4110
      @misakit.4110 18 днів тому

      in australia, its actually illegal to be given any substantial gifts, so anything more that things like flowers or chocolates violate the code of ethics

  • @conmanumber1
    @conmanumber1 7 місяців тому +118

    This is very common for caregivers. I looked after a lady who was in this situation after looking after a Veteran. She was allowed to live on the estate till her last days.

  • @johnwilliams7931
    @johnwilliams7931 6 місяців тому +165

    That was actually more of a business Arrangement than a marriage

    • @TragicallyCharmed
      @TragicallyCharmed 5 місяців тому +36

      That's what marriage was until more recently and still is and most of the world

    • @marineandairforcemom
      @marineandairforcemom 5 місяців тому +26

      That’s exactly what it was. Some of the comments on here! It was kind of her to care for him and kind of him to reciprocate.

    • @SirenaSpades
      @SirenaSpades 5 місяців тому +16

      As most are.

    • @EmilyGloeggler7984
      @EmilyGloeggler7984 3 місяці тому +3

      They were happy to be married.

    • @lolmfs
      @lolmfs 3 місяці тому +6

      That's what marriage was back then

  • @SWog617
    @SWog617 Рік тому +127

    This isn't exactly what I thought of when I read "Civil War widow".

    • @MsJellyBellyLove
      @MsJellyBellyLove 7 місяців тому +9

      Same! I was thinking they unearthed something cool about the last CWW in an archive somewhere, showing she dressed like a man and fought on the front lines.

    • @jacquigonzalez5447
      @jacquigonzalez5447 25 днів тому +1

      Yeah. Not just a stretch, a fabrication.

  • @theoldhunter6090
    @theoldhunter6090 5 місяців тому +89

    My great grandmother was born in 1896. Her father was a civil war veteran whose wife passed and left him with several children. He married a widow that was much younger with several children. They produced several children together. My great grandmother was the last of the yours, mine and ours children. She passed in 1997 at the age of 101. RIP Maggie Bolt of Jenks, Oklahoma.

  • @janetclaireSays
    @janetclaireSays 7 місяців тому +215

    It's so sad that Helen wasn't able to get his pension since it was his wish. I'll bet she could have really used it back in those days.

    • @Usmcto
      @Usmcto 6 місяців тому +10

      No it’s called Fraud

    • @katbowen4800
      @katbowen4800 5 місяців тому +23

      @@Usmctono it’s not

    • @Usmcto
      @Usmcto 5 місяців тому +4

      @@katbowen4800yes it is I’m a combat Veteran that is receiving Disability but you know more than me never fails me

    • @odietamo9376
      @odietamo9376 5 місяців тому +31

      @@UsmctoWhy do you think it is fraud? She was his wife, therefore it would’ve been perfectly legal for her to collect his pension. That’s the law, is it not? It’s not as if she were claiming to be his wife when she wasn’t.

    • @mika43889
      @mika43889 5 місяців тому +6

      @@odietamo9376 Think about it like this. If this was modern day and they were, say, applying for a spousal visa or something the marriage would be deemed fraudulent because there is no proof of an actual marital relationship she never even lived with him

  • @marjoriemoser3961
    @marjoriemoser3961 7 місяців тому +293

    Heartbreaking that her stepdaughter was as cruel as she was. Silence is a testament of pureness of heart💜

    • @CeciliaMorris
      @CeciliaMorris 7 місяців тому +95

      Explains why the father didn't want to leave the pension to his daughter.

    • @susanc4622
      @susanc4622 7 місяців тому +71

      It was hardly a real marriage. They didn’t cohabit. The old man must have just seen it as a way of paying her something after he died.

    • @ricofico
      @ricofico 7 місяців тому +54

      @@susanc4622 she was his caretaker, it was told in the story.

    • @bikinggal1
      @bikinggal1 7 місяців тому +31

      I don't think the pension is then transfered to the daughter is it? I could be wrong. Just pure nastiness on her part

    • @genextra4535
      @genextra4535 7 місяців тому +34

      I don't blame the daughter. Caregivers have a long and sordid history of marrying their clients. It's now considered unethical.

  • @sharonloomis5264
    @sharonloomis5264 7 місяців тому +102

    That was not nice her being threatened like that. Glad she was finally recognized. Now, who was it that said a woman cannot keep a secret?

    • @maryh9569
      @maryh9569 4 місяці тому +4

      Well , She technically didn't keep it a Secret, We all know about it ,

    • @ConfidenceinChrist90
      @ConfidenceinChrist90 3 місяці тому +1

      I know for a fact both my mother and great grandmother died with secrets that I we’ll never know for sure. We just have our speculations.

    • @GiaHairston
      @GiaHairston 4 дні тому

      @@ConfidenceinChrist90do tell

  • @MyLateralThawts
    @MyLateralThawts 7 місяців тому +129

    I remember another story less than five years ago about the last Civil War pension being paid to a daughter of a veteran. She passed on since then, but her father had an interesting service, as he was a veteran who first served with the Confederacy and later volunteered and saw action with the the US army while the war was still being fought.

    • @TheOldDragoon
      @TheOldDragoon 7 місяців тому +10

      I have an ancestor who did the same, but flipped. Joined the Union Army for the bounty, then deserted and joined the CS Army. I am guessing because our post-Germany roots are in Texas.

    • @meri9214
      @meri9214 7 місяців тому +18

      Helen should have NOT listened to the daughter! She was the wife; deserved that pension!

    • @sweetpurple8812
      @sweetpurple8812 7 місяців тому +14

      @@meri9214especially seeing as he had her marry him because he wanted her to have the pension.

    • @89medic
      @89medic 7 місяців тому +7

      @@sweetpurple8812and caretaker

    • @metalrooves3651
      @metalrooves3651 6 місяців тому +3

      I dont know how a daughter could have collected this!! I dont believe pensions can go to anybody but a surviving spouse

  • @bryan5549
    @bryan5549 7 місяців тому +208

    RIP Helen. I hope you're with your family again in the afterlife.

    • @Powerduo88
      @Powerduo88 5 місяців тому +1

      If she and her family were believers and followers of Christ, they are togther...not like down here but all with God.😊

    • @blahco4tt
      @blahco4tt 5 місяців тому

      ​@@Powerduo88May I suggest watching UA-cam videos of people who have had near death experiences? You may be surprised at what Christians, non-Christians, and atheists have experienced.
      She is likely reunited with her family.

  • @barbkugler7568
    @barbkugler7568 7 місяців тому +90

    Sending sweet thoughts your way to her family. What a kind and wonderful lady she was !!

  • @shariberry3123
    @shariberry3123 7 місяців тому +69

    Truly remarkable, and very sad that she was treated like such a terrible secret, when it was he who asked her to marry him in the first place. I have a picture of my mother's paternal grandfather, a Union soldier who survived, with his wife, they both look extremely elderly and frail and this was taken in 1930.
    My son worked in an old building in Austin, Texas that used to be a nursing care home for widows of the Confederacy. The last widow they had living there left in 1963.

  • @nelsontoondrawer7618
    @nelsontoondrawer7618 7 місяців тому +30

    I had a coworker whose father died when he was just 10 yrs old. He told me his dad had him late in his life: the dad having been born in 1875!

    • @ArtGirl82
      @ArtGirl82 6 місяців тому +1

      There were a pair of sisters who appeared on a 1950's game show, because their grandfather had fought in the Revolutionary War. He was around 11 when he enlisted and then his youngest son had children later in life; so his youngest granddaughters lived into the late 1960's and early 70's. The video is on UA-cam, if you search for "Delia and Bertie Harris"

    • @fancyfeast4610
      @fancyfeast4610 20 днів тому

      My grandfather was born in 1906 and I'm only 36. He had my mother late in his life

  • @IndiaHavenwyck
    @IndiaHavenwyck 5 місяців тому +22

    I met a man in 1989 who's father was a Civil War veteran. The man was 94 at the time. His father was much older than his mother. His parents were married in 1892, and he was born a few years later. His father passed away in 1942. He still had his father's fire arms, a uniform, a tent, his horse's saddle, and his discharge papers. I met with he and his wife on numerous occasion and heard many stories of what life was like for a Civil War vet.

  • @liveinms9949
    @liveinms9949 7 місяців тому +40

    My great grandmother was born in 1905 and her grandfather who fought in the war at the age of 11 would tell her war stories

  • @kepckatherinec805
    @kepckatherinec805 7 місяців тому +36

    I suppose technically the title of Civil War widow would be correct for any woman who married a veteran of that war. But I think it would be a lot more meaningful if the marriage began before, during or shortly after the war.

    • @redessa01
      @redessa01 7 місяців тому +16

      I agree. Yes, she was married to a civil war veteran, but she wasn't even born yet when the civil war happened.

    • @intercat4907
      @intercat4907 6 місяців тому

      I suppose "technically" she was a "decent married woman" but, you know ... Wow. Do you even hear yourself?

    • @odietamo9376
      @odietamo9376 5 місяців тому

      If the law gave her the right to the pension, then she should’ve gotten it. It’s that simple. What “seems” right or more “meaningful” is not relevant.

    • @SamStone1964
      @SamStone1964 4 місяці тому

      ​@@odietamo9376
      Were they legally married?

    • @odietamo9376
      @odietamo9376 4 місяці тому

      @@SamStone1964 That is an important question. I don’t know.

  • @larsonfamilyhouse
    @larsonfamilyhouse 6 місяців тому +21

    The father should have made it clear to his daughter and in his final wishes. This should have never been a fight between those two.

    • @billsloan
      @billsloan 3 місяці тому

      She clearly knew what he wanted & she refused.

  • @angelaf5040
    @angelaf5040 7 місяців тому +86

    So very sad. Poor lady. It's also sad how her death now makes history truly history. It's sinful she didn't collect his pension or that it was paid to her before her passing. The man she cared for clearly cared for her and wanted her to be "looked after" after his passing. His daughter is rotten!

    • @hatersgotohell627
      @hatersgotohell627 5 місяців тому +2

      No she wasn't entitled to that. The daughter did the right thing. She was trying to commit fraud at the expense or her 90 yr old father. Hell to the no.. she was just an old gold digger. If this happen today we'd all call it what it is

    • @SamStone1964
      @SamStone1964 4 місяці тому +1

      He was living with his family full time and they were his primary caregivers.
      A 22 year old civilian woman does not need a lifetime government military pension.
      Were they legally married?

    • @basicallyno1722
      @basicallyno1722 3 місяці тому

      @samstone1964 I would agree with you, but I’m unsure if this is really fraud considering lots of people married in the fashion of business arrangements in older times. Definitely doesn’t need a lifetime pension though at 20.

    • @SamStone1964
      @SamStone1964 3 місяці тому

      @@basicallyno1722
      If the man leaves his own money to her it's nobody else's business. But this is a war pension which is government money which she had no right to claim.

    • @basicallyno1722
      @basicallyno1722 3 місяці тому +1

      @@SamStone1964 that's a great point I had not considered. Youre saying the money wasn't "his" to give away like that. Thanks Sam. I think he may have wanted to protect this young girl he grew fond of at his deathbed. Times were tough in 1935 and many people weren't surviving the Depression. I understand why he wanted to do that and why she would be inclined to say yes. I also understand the fraudulence of the claim.

  • @iMatti00
    @iMatti00 Рік тому +31

    Why would someone’s daughter care that a woman goes after the pension? If pensions are the same way they are now, either the spouse gets it or nobody gets it. Unless maybe the daughter’s mother was claiming she was the widow. I don’t know.

    • @here_we_go_again2571
      @here_we_go_again2571 7 місяців тому +2

      Usually only widows and wives were eligible for Civil War pensions. These were not like modern pension plans
      whereby the pensioner pays into the fund. These were given for military service.

    • @serahloeffelroberts9901
      @serahloeffelroberts9901 7 місяців тому +4

      A lot of pension plans require a marriage of ten years for the widow to continue to receive half of the pension. I was married five years so did not qualify for the pension after my husband died. However I did qualify for the union provided medical insurance. Go figure.

    • @SamStone1964
      @SamStone1964 4 місяці тому

      The daughter's mother was not alive.

  • @jonjeremy4778
    @jonjeremy4778 Рік тому +117

    RIP Helen. What a great woman

    • @CrossOfBayonne
      @CrossOfBayonne 7 місяців тому +10

      Upmost respect, Last connection to an unfortunate event in US history

    • @CAROLDDISCOVER-FINDER2525
      @CAROLDDISCOVER-FINDER2525 7 місяців тому +13

      With the intentions of being married so she could get his pension. That would most likely constitute a basis for fraud.

    • @GrannieOakley44
      @GrannieOakley44 7 місяців тому +7

      She didn’t persue. He offered. The man was thankful. She was a volunteer caregiver. I pity anyone who doesn’t see the beauty in this.

    • @CAROLDDISCOVER-FINDER2525
      @CAROLDDISCOVER-FINDER2525 7 місяців тому

      @@GrannieOakley44 I pity the blind that doesn't see it for what it is. What is she give up to the ancient old man to get what he promised. Just to be intimidated out of it later! I'm sure her parents were behind the whole arrangement. Talk about Big Daddy pimping out his little girl

    • @BrotherPatriot
      @BrotherPatriot 7 місяців тому +3

      @@CAROLDDISCOVER-FINDER2525
      Not in the least.
      The old man wanted to be able to provide for his caretaker and knew that by marrying her, he could do that since he couldn't pay her.
      There is no fraud in this and yes, she should have stood up for herself and claimed her rights...but it was a long time ago and things were different back then.

  • @hardyerhardt5929
    @hardyerhardt5929 Рік тому +49

    Rest in Peace, dear Helen!

  • @rabbidlobo
    @rabbidlobo 6 місяців тому +38

    My great grandmother was born in 1889 and I was born in 1989. Anyway, she kept the shackles of her mother and we still have them to this day. Its just crazy how little time has passed since the Civil War if you think about it.
    I'm not making this up, my family seems to reproduce late
    Great Great Grandma 1857
    Great Grandma 1889
    Grandma 1927
    Mom 1960
    Me 1989
    My son 2016

    • @lloyannehurd
      @lloyannehurd 5 місяців тому +8

      Your great great grandmother was in shackles!!! That really brings the reality of that time in history closer and so uncomfortably real.

    • @daisydukes8252
      @daisydukes8252 5 місяців тому +1

      My white European ancestors were in shackles in Africa before there ever was black slavery in America. All the white European slaves, men, women and children were murdered. The cruel Africans spared no white slave.

    • @daisydukes8252
      @daisydukes8252 5 місяців тому +1

      @@lloyannehurdEveryone’s ancestors were in shackles at some point in time like my white European ancestors were slaves in Africa before there ever was black slavery in America. The cruel Africans spared no white slave, they murdered them all.

    • @samgray49
      @samgray49 5 місяців тому +2

      Same with my family. What is kind of crazy for me is that my family we had four generations alive. My great-great-grandmother was alive in 1993 and so there's a picture of my big cousin with my grandpa and my great-grandmother to prove it. Her dad was a civil war veteran having served as a private during the Civil War. What's crazy is that my great-grandfather served in World War 1 and lived long enough to see the invention of the modern car, man in flight, and man on the moon.

    • @rabbidlobo
      @rabbidlobo 3 місяці тому

      @@samgray49 could you give their birth years as I did? Not that I don't believe you, I'm just curious and a bit confused. Your great great grandmother or just great grandmother? Regardless your story is still intriguing.

  • @leondillon8723
    @leondillon8723 7 місяців тому +44

    Must be a Confederate widow. Some Missouri regiments, like the 7th Cavalry, were CSA. Years ago Donald Sutherland played a Virginia (Virgin) Confederate veteran who married a girl 13 years old."The Last Confederate Widow" was the title. Another "Gold Rush" was started when President Theodore Roosevelt signed a bill giving a pension to northern living veterans. Girls, as young as 12, went out hunting for a veteran.

    • @jstrahan2
      @jstrahan2 7 місяців тому +5

      She was a Union widow.

    • @laurie66
      @laurie66 7 місяців тому +1

      And they clearly state in the beginning of the story that she chose not to collect the pension

    • @xplorercolorado9224
      @xplorercolorado9224 7 місяців тому +2

      Why does it matter which side? She was still a young widow

    • @Sydroo1969
      @Sydroo1969 7 місяців тому

      I saw that movie it was very good.
      My great great great grandfather fought for the North, he was from Illinois.

    • @laurie66
      @laurie66 7 місяців тому +2

      @@xplorercolorado9224 exactly! I have ancestors who fought on both sides and I love them all, because if not for them I wouldn’t be here. I will not judge either because in that time people fought for what they thought was right, whether we look back and feel it was wrong doesn’t matter we weren’t there period. So it doesn’t matter which side he fought on you are absolutely right. The story was about a young girl considered a widow who didn’t take money from her husband’s death. I am in agreement with you.

  • @FranBenjamin-yg7qt
    @FranBenjamin-yg7qt 6 місяців тому +26

    Even though she was an adult when she married him, I am glad she continued to live at home with her parents. My great aunt is 88 and came from a family of 16 kids. Which means my great great grandparents were slaves. The troubling times of our country was not that long ago✌🙏

    • @tangarooo
      @tangarooo 6 місяців тому +19

      No it wasn't long ago at all. I've just turned 60 and I remember a house at the end of the lane where a lady would sit under a tree most days and keep order over all the little kids who passed near her house. Of all the kids, everyone loved her and wanted to be near her, even though she was kind of strict , nobody ever had 'to be told'. Our mothers told us not to bother her and she didn't want us hanging around, but she never seemed to mind us. "Let her have her freedom." I have no idea how old she was, but she was OLD to a five year old. It wasn't until much much later I heard the adults talking and found out she and her mother had been slaves, with her being freed as a teenager. She was the last of her family and had no children of her own. I remember seeing water fountains that said "WHITE ONLY" and two entrances to some places. It wasn't that long ago at all.

    • @kevin-vp1zd
      @kevin-vp1zd 6 місяців тому +2

      If your great aunt is 88, how old were her parents at the time of her birth?
      Slavery ended in this country 159 years ago.

    • @FranBenjamin-yg7qt
      @FranBenjamin-yg7qt 6 місяців тому

      find someone else to troll troll@@kevin-vp1zd

    • @daisydukes8252
      @daisydukes8252 5 місяців тому

      My white European ancestors were slaves in Africa before there ever was black slavery in America. The cruel Africans freed no white European slave, they murdered them all.

    • @daisydukes8252
      @daisydukes8252 5 місяців тому +1

      @@tangaroooYes-just as the cruel Africans murdered all the white European slaves in Africa before there ever was black slavery in America.

  • @jjwats12
    @jjwats12 28 днів тому +3

    Such a tender way of telling the story. I'm sure the local news would cover the story the same way if a 91 year-old Korean War vet married a 19 year-old girl today.

  • @olivegrove-gl3tw
    @olivegrove-gl3tw 7 місяців тому +15

    is no one gonna talk about how she was 19 and she married him when he was 91.... while being his care giver... she probably just wanted the money but then got scared to actually go though with it

    • @elliecherise1968
      @elliecherise1968 6 місяців тому +2

      True, but times were hard back than. Woman married for money because that's the way it was, but 91 is a little too old. People did desperate things.
      TBH: They both could have been broke and poor or maybe the daughter was just a mean greedy selfish - - - - and didn't want the daughter or anyone else to have anything.

    • @silencemeviolateme6076
      @silencemeviolateme6076 6 місяців тому

      No we aren't trying to earn Internet karma today.

    • @SamStone1964
      @SamStone1964 4 місяці тому

      He was 93 and she was 17. Odd they reported that incorrectly.

    • @elliecherise1968
      @elliecherise1968 4 місяці тому

      Even in 1968 things were getting better. Michael Luttges02191968 Culver City, CA and Mama Luttges07271950 Germany and GF Amanda Russo

    • @TimmyTOnTheFly
      @TimmyTOnTheFly 4 місяці тому

      So the fuck what! Let them rest in peace. It’s not your relationship. You’re a clown 🤦🏽‍♂️🤡💯

  • @richardstall4351
    @richardstall4351 7 місяців тому +17

    Dearest Helen 😢 I'm sry you lost your Husband and I'm Sry to hear that you had to keep that part of your life a secret 😢 I'm sure there were times you just really wanted to talk to someone about your exciting life and adventures I'm very glad you did get the chance to talk about it with someone. I hope you are with all of your family and friends now in that Castle in the sky and enjoying yourselves to the fullest cuz your All worth it ❤️ God Bless Everyone and Happy Holidays ❤

  • @johnranallo424
    @johnranallo424 7 місяців тому +63

    Years ago I read a book (fiction) with this same story line. Old Confederate veteran marries a young gal shortly before his death. She gets his pension and lives a long life. I think it was titled "Last Confederate Widow Tells All". Good story.

    • @CAROLDDISCOVER-FINDER2525
      @CAROLDDISCOVER-FINDER2525 7 місяців тому +14

      So who is paying the Confederate pension?????

    • @MrFirstone23
      @MrFirstone23 7 місяців тому

      Confederate soldiers were declared equal to U.S. veterans by an Act of Congress in 1957. They were called to arms by their state government to defend their homeland from invasion. Some Confederate widows and children even drew a pension, few applied. @@CAROLDDISCOVER-FINDER2525

    • @Legendary_UA
      @Legendary_UA 7 місяців тому +25

      ​@@CAROLDDISCOVER-FINDER2525 Confederate veterans are by law US Veterans

    • @CAROLDDISCOVER-FINDER2525
      @CAROLDDISCOVER-FINDER2525 7 місяців тому

      @@Legendary_UA not true according to Reuters. Honestly found your statement fascinating so I did a quick check. You know today that means Google it. Several items on this. Basically Facebook is not always right. Besides the Confederate for traders and why would they be given the same rights as the US veterans? But then I thought that the government does odd things. Here's a snippet from Google. Is this where you got your information. This 1958 law?
      Posts shared hundreds of times on Facebook claim that a 1958 law “gave Confederate veterans the same legal status as U.S. Veterans,” citing U.S. Public Law 85-425, Section 410. The posts allege that “all Confederate graves were declared those of U.S. war dead.” This claim is false.
      Examples of such posts can be found here; and here;
      Public Law

    • @shakey2634
      @shakey2634 7 місяців тому

      @@Legendary_UA
      Politicians buying votes after the war I’m sure.

  • @Oakleyracer
    @Oakleyracer 7 місяців тому +3

    Stories from that era are very interesting. Reading about it keeps me enthralled for a while. I keep finding more things I wanna look up.

  • @tehrcanine4175
    @tehrcanine4175 6 місяців тому +5

    In the early 90s I worked for a short time at Julian Pie co, in Julian, Calif. The owner told me that her mother, at a very young age, married an old Civil War veteran. That woman was still living in a nursing home in 1990. I think the family came to California from ALABAMA. I WOULD have loved to have had a conversation with her! Her decendants still live in that town.😮😮

    • @basicallyno1722
      @basicallyno1722 3 місяці тому

      Yeah I’d like to know how old she was when she married him! She must’ve been pretty young, and he pretty old

  • @davidmarrier2737
    @davidmarrier2737 7 місяців тому +6

    Think of all the history never spoken that is now lost in time. Be honest and true with this precious gift you can give to your grandchildren.

  • @norman4628
    @norman4628 6 місяців тому +8

    2:36 "She was just 19 in 1936 when she married...". The US Civil War ended in 1865. How was she a Civil War widow? If you married someone in 1965 and your spouse fought in WW2 does that make you a WW2 widow? Such nonsense.

    • @Stan_in_Shelton_WA
      @Stan_in_Shelton_WA 20 днів тому

      yes, words have meanings, use them accordingly. Media hype for a $'s

    • @gray_mara
      @gray_mara 20 днів тому

      "She was just 19 when she married in 1936 and he was 91." I think you paused the video too soon. She was the widow of a civil war veteran.

    • @Stan_in_Shelton_WA
      @Stan_in_Shelton_WA 20 днів тому +1

      @@gray_mara she was not alive during the civil war. she did not experience her husband dying in battle during the civil war. The widow of a civil war veteran is way different than being a civil war widow, there were too many of them and they should not be dishonored by this modern twisting of words.

    • @gray_mara
      @gray_mara 20 днів тому

      @@Stan_in_Shelton_WA As the granddaughter, daughter and sister of men who served in multiple wars and conflicts, I am deeply offended that you would infer dishonour from anything I said.

  • @statesrights01
    @statesrights01 7 місяців тому +14

    The wife introduced me to a friend of hers many years ago. Her name was Della, she married a man back in the 20's at a young age. Her Father-in-law was a Confederate out of Kentucky. Being a WBTS reenactor, I would sit and talk too her about him. She told me a lot of interesting things. A real history lesson indeed. She died at the age of 98 (I believe). She is missed.

    • @andrewgates8158
      @andrewgates8158 6 місяців тому +2

      Did confederates get pensions.

    • @statesrights01
      @statesrights01 6 місяців тому

      yep, from the US at that.. @@andrewgates8158

  • @bevygaines
    @bevygaines 7 місяців тому +5

    Someone in the comments said, he enlisted four days before the civil war ended. So there's that!

  • @Roger-zx4ji
    @Roger-zx4ji 5 місяців тому +3

    She married him for his pension, and didn’t even live with him. Yet everyone here is basically saying, oh that poor woman. Hell, what was his state of mind when married her? Congrats to the daughter.

  • @GratitudeGriot
    @GratitudeGriot 5 місяців тому +13

    Such an interesting way to phrase this....she got married 71 years after the Civil War was over. She was born 52 years after the civil war was over. Her husband was a Civil War veteran; she didn't collect his pension and she's still considered a "Civil War widow"? wierd.

    • @jacquigonzalez5447
      @jacquigonzalez5447 25 днів тому

      Right? REALLY stupid story. Gee lady, sorry your scam fell through. I think she was a manipulative hussy and the daughter was onto her. The violin music didn’t fool me.

    • @mirzaahmed6589
      @mirzaahmed6589 19 днів тому

      Why not? Widow does not require you to draw a pension. If she was legally married to a Civil War veteran, then she's a Civil War widow. What's so hard to understand?

  • @willyjoerockhead
    @willyjoerockhead 3 роки тому +50

    I remember reading the same story of a different widow....I can't remember how long ago but they obviously didn't know about this .

    • @shortsio5657
      @shortsio5657 3 роки тому +4

      That was I believe 2008 when president obama just got elected

    • @dennisnaderhoff2008
      @dennisnaderhoff2008 2 роки тому

      The worms know, read my comment.

    • @44thala49
      @44thala49 7 місяців тому +10

      That was a lady from Shorter, Alabama. She was still drawing a pension from her late husband’s service in an Alabama regiment in the late 90s (last time I heard about her). When asked why she married such an old man, her reply was “better to be an old man’s sweetheart than a young man’s slave”. I guess she’s had a point.

  • @tiberiuskirk739
    @tiberiuskirk739 3 роки тому +56

    Rip in peace dear ... I’m sorry you had to go through that.

    • @tiberiuskirk739
      @tiberiuskirk739 Рік тому +1

      @Let Your L⚡️GHT Forever Shine ❤️ people like you are the reason I don’t believe in god. Congratulations! I will never seek god thanks to you

    • @MrLuckyCasino
      @MrLuckyCasino Рік тому +2

      She is in hell with him bro sorry to tell you that 😅😅😅😅😅

    • @davidhibbs6989
      @davidhibbs6989 Рік тому +2

      ​@@MrLuckyCasino evil 👺

    • @evelynclover6366
      @evelynclover6366 9 місяців тому +4

      ​@@MrLuckyCasinoHell doesn't exist, but I will lower my standards for you to hopefully get an intelligent answer "Why do you think either one of them are in hell?"

    • @hull_k0gan641
      @hull_k0gan641 7 місяців тому

      @@MrLuckyCasino Hail Satan, my Dark lord and master. Can’t wait for you to join us.

  • @ericheine2414
    @ericheine2414 7 місяців тому +33

    This is a lovely story.
    She was a real sweetheart.
    She was even kind to his daughter.
    Nice is nice. Godspeed.

  • @j.okroiag9368
    @j.okroiag9368 6 місяців тому +8

    So many women in history are only remembered because of the men they married.

  • @DeBee-dc9ce
    @DeBee-dc9ce 7 місяців тому +9

    People had harder times. My step-grandmother was sold at about 14 to take care of man and his house (blonde, white and basically a slave). She ended up having 4 children with the man. Then when he died she married my grandfather, and she was quite a bit older than him.

  • @magnusdunning6113
    @magnusdunning6113 6 місяців тому +3

    The Dependent and Disability Pension Act of 1890 finally gave Civil War Veterans a pension. Many whom were disabled. Then in 1910, Teddy Roosevelt executive ordered all Veterans over 62 a pension.
    So a lot of young women learned that these old men had a guaranteed source of income that could be passed on to the widow when the Veteran died. Lots of very young girls married old men. My Great Grandmother did this.
    Hey, life was hard back then so any way you can make it is a good thing.
    So this particular woman, even if her civil war vet husband was 15 when he served in 1865 at war’s end, married a considerably older guy.

  • @leephil100
    @leephil100 5 місяців тому +2

    I lived in St Petersburg Florida back in the late 1960’s and early 1970’s and there were several retired ladies who collected Civil War pensions. One told me it was during the depression as a way to survive.

  • @glensims3744
    @glensims3744 5 місяців тому +1

    My father was also born in 1918 and my great grand father was a civil war veteran he passed sometime in the 20's. Late enough that my father had vivid memories of him.

  • @sherriianiro747
    @sherriianiro747 7 місяців тому +13

    There is a whole documentary on this subject - many Civil War veterans had child brides when they were old timers.
    They were a close - knit bunch that had to fight for their pensions because at that time they were considered hand outs and rhe government budgeted a third of its resources for them.
    Pension fraud was prevalent after 1865 so that could be why the sister stepped in too.

    • @basicallyno1722
      @basicallyno1722 3 місяці тому

      Technically she, woman in story, could’ve been entitled to it - but she was only married for about a year…and she wasn’t born anywhere near the ending of the civil war. She was born almost 50-60 years later ¯\_(ツ)_/ morally she’s not entitled to a lifetime pensioner’s fund

    • @sherriianiro747
      @sherriianiro747 3 місяці тому

      @@basicallyno1722 Age doesn't matter when collecting a pension - as long as she was old enough to marry and can prove marriage she was entitled to it, despite duration of marriage . They said the two were married three years til he died, but did not live together so I can see his sisters' point.
      The Civil War pension was even offered to women that remarried.

  • @marks1638
    @marks1638 7 місяців тому +12

    During the Reagan Administration there was a big push to reduce government agencies to save money. Most agencies of course fought to keep their budget and manpower. One man actually asked for his department to be shut down. He and his secretary were the only employees remaining of the Union Veteran's Pension Bureau. While some Veteran's Spouses were still alive, he felt that another agency should take over as no Union Veterans were left alive and only a few spouses were still alive. Many of these remaining spouses were women who married these Veterans, when the men were elderly and the girls were teenagers, to get their pensions.). Soon afterwards he got his wish. The Veterans Administration took over and handled the Union Veterans spouse's pensions until the last one died in 2020.

  • @kennedysingh3916
    @kennedysingh3916 5 місяців тому +1

    Amaing, watched from Old Harbour Jamaica.

  • @madnessintomagic
    @madnessintomagic 6 місяців тому +6

    Confused by this. I mean, she’s interesting, but aren’t you technically only a civil war widow if your spouse dies, you know, **in** the civil war? I could marry someone now who was in Desert Storm…. if he dies, that doesn’t make me a Desert Storm widow.

  • @galndixie
    @galndixie Рік тому +26

    He's a Union man. He didn't enlist until 6 April 1865, and wasn't mustered into service until 10 April 1865, a day after the surrender at Appomattox, which date is used by every historian as the end of the war. So technically, he's not a Civil War Veteran. Yes, he got a pension, but for being in the US Army, not for being in the Civil War.

    • @merlink8644
      @merlink8644 11 місяців тому +22

      If his enlistment date is DURING the Civil War then, regardless of active service, he was, and remains, a Civil War veteran. What's more, fighting continued after the 'official' end of the war as communications took time to travel to the widely spread units, his muster date after Appomattox does not automatically mean he did not fight. Don't forget that men who did not see action in Europe before Hitler's death, but we're posted to Germany in the aftermath are still considered WWII veterans.

    • @galndixie
      @galndixie 11 місяців тому +3

      According to the history of his unit, they were in Nebraska from the end of the war until their disbandment in Nov '65. They were fighting Indians, not Confederates. There were no Civil War battles, skirmishes, or occupations in Nebraska.

    • @kevinkwiatkowski7197
      @kevinkwiatkowski7197 10 місяців тому

      @@galndixie Battle of Little bighorn

    • @wladmuir
      @wladmuir 7 місяців тому +4

      I read "On October 8, 1864, he enlisted in Company F, 46th Missouri Infantry, and was formally mustered in on November 7, 1864." then after his 6 months enlistment expired, he enlisted in Company F, 14th Missouri Cavalry in April 1865.

    • @roberthudson1959
      @roberthudson1959 7 місяців тому +2

      Your basic premise is false, because every historian does not use the date that the ANV surrendered as the end date of the Civil War.

  • @you2angel1
    @you2angel1 6 місяців тому +3

    What a beautiful story. I'm glad the civil war vets life was honored and his wife was recognized.
    °~•.☆.•~°

    • @Usmcto
      @Usmcto 6 місяців тому +1

      Why did she rate to be recognized she didn’t have to go through what my wife went through every time I deployed into a combat zone hell she wasn’t even alive during the civil war

  • @Doc_McStuffins
    @Doc_McStuffins 5 місяців тому +4

    This is a strange thing to celebrate. But nice that she lived to such old age.

  • @billiecrouse8002
    @billiecrouse8002 Рік тому

    Love and Blessings, Billie

  • @williamfulgham2010
    @williamfulgham2010 7 місяців тому +5

    I can remember seeing several small houses on the shore near Bovouer on the Mississippi Gulf coast in the 1950s, that were furnished and provided residences for widows of Confederate Veterans provided by the UDC.

    • @dolandlydia
      @dolandlydia 6 місяців тому

      Surely no one could still be alive as a widow. That would have been 85 years since the Civil War ended. Even if the widow married at 15 that would make her 100. So they must have been built decades before.

    • @williamfulgham2010
      @williamfulgham2010 6 місяців тому +2

      ​​@@dolandlydia Those shelters were built in the early 20th century and they survived the 1947 hurricane on the Mississippi Gulf Coast. I think there were about 2 still living in 1950, and the houses remained empty for several years. Hurricane Camille in 1969 probably destroyed them. They were adjacent to Beauvior, Jefferson Davis's retirement home and library.
      Beauvior sustained some damage during hurricane Katrina in 2005, but was fully restored shortly thereafter, and remains open for tourists today.

    • @redtra236
      @redtra236 5 місяців тому +1

      @@dolandlydia What man? Who said they got married the year that the civil war ended...? Anyways there were still a few actual civil war veterans living in the early 50s at least so it's definitely possible. As we can see here a widow of a civil war veteran died in 2021....

  • @adamdavis8082
    @adamdavis8082 6 місяців тому +4

    So she married an old man to get his pension, then didnt do it?Thanks for your service, i guess?

  • @denisedarnell1641
    @denisedarnell1641 6 місяців тому

    Amazing life story of a beautiful woman. Rest in peace Ma'am.

  • @knowledgetree7134
    @knowledgetree7134 6 місяців тому +8

    So we’re celebrating a 19 year that married a 91 year old, she had nothing to do with the civil war… she thought she was gonna collect on that pension… 😂 She didn’t fight for that money because she know that money belongs to his children!

    • @SamStone1964
      @SamStone1964 4 місяці тому

      He was 93 and she was 17. Odd they would misstate it.

    • @basicallyno1722
      @basicallyno1722 3 місяці тому

      This was in the middle of a Depression - old dude probably wanted to die knowing the nice girl taking care of him was going to make it through. People weren’t making it through the Depression. Old lady probably has a lot of her own stories to tell.

  • @ElenaArms
    @ElenaArms 7 місяців тому +9

    Sounds like her family was upset about not receiving a pension that was not owed to her. As a veteran , If I don't receive a pension after serving 8 years, she doesn't deserve a cent neither does her family after marrying someone 60 years after the war.

    • @karenday9109
      @karenday9109 7 місяців тому

      Agree!

    • @GrannieOakley44
      @GrannieOakley44 7 місяців тому

      Wrong to use our world to judge theirs. Many things have changed.

  • @hensonlaura
    @hensonlaura 6 місяців тому +6

    If I'd had a sham marriage to fraudulently collect benefits I wasn't entitled to, I'd keep quiet about it too. Kudos to the daughter.

    • @Usmcto
      @Usmcto 6 місяців тому +3

      Agree

    • @hatersgotohell627
      @hatersgotohell627 5 місяців тому +2

      Finally someone with critical thinking skills. I can't believe all the comments saying shame on the daughter and how greedy she must have been etc etc...

    • @basicallyno1722
      @basicallyno1722 3 місяці тому

      I don’t exactly fault her, he asked her. The old man probably knew how hard it was to live considering he asked her to wed him in the middle of a depression (1935), and wanted to make sure his caretaker was taken care of too. Do I think she’s entitled to a lifetime pension? Probably not….but I can imagine the old man married her specifically to ensure this young girl taking care of him was going to be okay. Mid 1930s, times were tough!

  • @DesertDog2
    @DesertDog2 22 дні тому +2

    She was the widow of an elderly civil war veteran. “Civil war widow” suggests she was married to a soldier who died in the civil war. Such a deceiving story.

  • @FromAcrossTheDesert
    @FromAcrossTheDesert 6 місяців тому +2

    A Civil War widow up until this video meant a wife of a soldier who died in the war. My Grandmother died a few years ago, but nobody would call her a WW2 widow because my Grandfather lived with her all the way until 1996. War widows were made widows by the war.

  • @ronbly9146
    @ronbly9146 2 роки тому +131

    A veteran is always a veteran

    • @palepride7530
      @palepride7530 7 місяців тому

      Vets have been shat on my whole life 😆
      Statues get took down and everything 😝 don’t be a delusional goofball

  • @JerryHaoNguyen
    @JerryHaoNguyen 3 роки тому +44

    Rest In Peace, helen

    • @MrLuckyCasino
      @MrLuckyCasino Рік тому

      She is in hell with him bro sorry to tell you that 😅😅😅😅😅

    • @bigiron8831
      @bigiron8831 7 місяців тому

      @@MrLuckyCasino
      Off your meds again little cas🤔
      LET'S GO DARWIN........

  • @kilcitykitty
    @kilcitykitty 2 роки тому +43

    how evil people can be when money is involved...

    • @compassionate100
      @compassionate100 10 місяців тому +5

      Tell us about it, you'd think someone would learn by now

    • @DeeBullock1836
      @DeeBullock1836 7 місяців тому +2

      Exactly…..it tore my whole family and extended family completely apart….i stayed neutral and I was the one ostracized….

    • @tarabooartarmy3654
      @tarabooartarmy3654 7 місяців тому +4

      @@DeeBullock1836mine too. My cousin weaseled his own sister’s inheritance away from their dying father and promised him he’d always make sure she was taken care of. Then he weaseled my inheritance away by buying it from my mom for peanuts. Then he kicked his own sister out of the only home her 12-year-old daughter has ever known so he could rent it out and pay for the mortgage on the property he practically stole from my mom. Awful person. Evil. Vile.

    • @DeeBullock1836
      @DeeBullock1836 7 місяців тому +1

      @@tarabooartarmy3654 OMG!!! I am so sorry that happened to you and your aunt and niece…that is definitely horrific…I hope you can still find good in life, you’re worth it…

  • @julie1630
    @julie1630 7 місяців тому +8

    I'm 76 all my ancestors were confederates except one group from Kentucky were union. God bless all those souls in both sides and may we as Americans love not hate one another. I do remember that old saying "that damn yankee".

  • @EB-vl4ki
    @EB-vl4ki 3 роки тому +25

    It kind of shows you that it wasn't that long ago

    • @Frozo-nt2ky
      @Frozo-nt2ky 2 роки тому +3

      It was a long time ago, maybe not relatively though

    • @bravesoul5743
      @bravesoul5743 2 роки тому

      I agree

  • @hatersgotohell627
    @hatersgotohell627 5 місяців тому +3

    To everyone who is against his daughter use ur heads. If your 90 yr old grandfather was getting married to a 19 yr old youe know it was for fraudulent gold digging reasons too and stop it. Its literally taking advantage of the elderly.

  • @WalkDisneyWorld
    @WalkDisneyWorld 6 місяців тому +2

    My father was a WWII vet who lied about his age. He was born in 1928. My grandfather on his side was born in 1898 In Oklahoma when it was still a territory. I’m only 37. He had me at 58 and had my sister at 60. He had children from 15 till 60. 3 doctorate degrees and was a body builder in the silver era.

    • @dolandlydia
      @dolandlydia 6 місяців тому +1

      Wow he was 12 when the war broke out 1940. So he was at the most 17 when the war ended. Amazing story.

    • @WalkDisneyWorld
      @WalkDisneyWorld 6 місяців тому +1

      Yes, I can’t imagine lying about your age at 15 and enlisting. Men were built differently back then. Or should I say boys were men…. That also means my mother might be one of the last WWII widows alive unless one of these 95+ men that are still alive marry an 18 year old now like this story

  • @seanrcollier
    @seanrcollier 3 місяці тому +2

    "Civil War widow"... that technicality is doing a *lot* of heavy lifting in this story

  • @DonnaLane-pw4rg
    @DonnaLane-pw4rg 7 місяців тому +10

    With sincere condolences to her family and friends amen

  • @Professor_Giggles
    @Professor_Giggles 3 роки тому +86

    Wow! Helen was truly a class act, rest up!

    • @JustSujC
      @JustSujC 3 роки тому +2

      They’re trying to honor a potential gold digger. She obviously married him for the pension and the daughter rightfully intervened. If anything the good daughter should be honored not this insane woman.

    • @TV-el6uj
      @TV-el6uj Рік тому +3

      LMAO

    • @CAROLDDISCOVER-FINDER2525
      @CAROLDDISCOVER-FINDER2525 7 місяців тому +6

      She marries some old geezer to get his pension and that's a class act???

    • @laurie66
      @laurie66 7 місяців тому +1

      @@CAROLDDISCOVER-FINDER2525 clearly states at 1:38 that she decided not to collect his pension

    • @CAROLDDISCOVER-FINDER2525
      @CAROLDDISCOVER-FINDER2525 7 місяців тому +1

      @@laurie66 yeah big deal. I saw that too but thanks for bringing it up. Also indicated that she was pressured not to collect it. I guess I can be a little bit more fair. There's certain parts of different states where if you go in the cemetery it's not uncommon to find somebody 20 or 30 years younger than her husband. So if we go back to their time is probably more common. Also in certain parts of certain States define a man on his second or third marriage and has children 5 or 10 years older than his current wife. These places are also a great place for me to go hunt old vintage vehicles. Honestly I find when they express interest to be repulsed by it. No I'm not that old. That little bit background May demonstrate why I look at differently than some other people. It would appear that the man said honey child marry me and you collect my pension when I'm dead here shortly. So a minute and 38 seconds and demonstrated she got screwed on that deal too.

  • @Smooshes786
    @Smooshes786 7 місяців тому +2

    The money that should have gotten to her should go directly to helping current veterans. Doubt the USA would do it- would be a nice thing to do.

  • @chairde
    @chairde 7 місяців тому +3

    Veterans of other wars didn’t get pensions unless they stayed in the service for 20 years.

  • @Aethelhart
    @Aethelhart 6 місяців тому +4

    This is being spoken of like a romance story, but clearly she didn't go live with him and it was kept it mostly secret, so it doesn't sound as though love was behind it, especially given the extreme age difference. Just imagine if the genders were reversed and this was a modern story, this would be getting reported as a crime stort rather than a heartwarming story of a widow.
    The likely truth behind this story is that she was a gold digger doing what would be called elder abuse via her caretaker position. This is very common even today where nurses and caretakers for the elderly will trick them with romance or some other means, or even coerce those in their care to give them money or part in their will. She seems clearly not to have been a true real widow but a scammer. Did she tell her pastor out of guilt? I can't say and I'm only speculating, but my speculation seems a lot more likely than the heartwarming story this is presented as. Far from the villain that the jealous daughter seems portrayed as, she was likely justly angry when she found out about the caretaker abuse that had been going on. I don't know what the laws were back then, but caretaker abuse like this would be looked at as criminal in today's world.

  • @HarryHafsak
    @HarryHafsak 7 місяців тому +5

    We really stretched for it this time didn’t we? You have to use the term civil war widow loosely here.

  • @theresehopkins1581
    @theresehopkins1581 5 місяців тому

    Wow!!! .... I had no idea where this story was going!!! ❤🎉😊 ....
    So glad her tale didn't die with her!!! The truth will out.... always!!! ❤😊

  • @marthamunion1500
    @marthamunion1500 4 місяці тому

    What a wonderful bitter sweet story.❤️

  • @TBagr
    @TBagr 7 місяців тому +4

    A little misleading. While she did marry a Civil War soldier, she did not live during the war so it’s a bit different.

  • @jstrahan2
    @jstrahan2 7 місяців тому +4

    In case it is not been stated already, James Bolin was a Union veteran.

  • @bollagurl
    @bollagurl 6 місяців тому +1

    The way people are confused with how evil people can be when the entire civil war was needed because how evil people can be

    • @trevorjennings720
      @trevorjennings720 6 місяців тому

      Hello Pretty, how are you doing today, hope you’re fine and safe from the COVID-19 virus??

  • @metalrooves3651
    @metalrooves3651 6 місяців тому +1

    i had an employee,now 61 WHOSE GRANDFATHER WAS BORN IN 1865....I would bet hes close to the youngest to have a grandfather that old....

  • @01denese
    @01denese 7 місяців тому +4

    Very strange him having a daughter but marrying a girl so she can get his pension.

  • @Amtcboy
    @Amtcboy 7 місяців тому +5

    Sorry, but reading “civil war widow,” I thought she lived and married before or during the actual war, with the husband soldier dying during the war.

  • @smi2le4ever
    @smi2le4ever 6 місяців тому +1

    Wow that’s disgusting. She was 19 and he was 91. Gross gross gross.

  • @beverlylumley4150
    @beverlylumley4150 7 місяців тому

    Great video

  • @user-jk2hb5qq8r
    @user-jk2hb5qq8r 7 місяців тому +43

    It never fails to amaze me at how mean and cruel some people can be! 😢 What was it going to hurt his his daughter, for her to draw his pension????

    • @EyeLean5280
      @EyeLean5280 7 місяців тому +11

      I imagine he had property as well, that would go to the daughter so long as he died unmarried. I'm sure she felt like the caretaker was swooping in and trying to snap up the daughter's inheritance when she never even lived with the man.

    • @dannyh8288
      @dannyh8288 7 місяців тому +7

      Women never seem to be happy unless they are screwing up someone else's life.

    • @hensonlaura
      @hensonlaura 6 місяців тому +1

      It's called moral principle. A lot of modern people haven't learned of them, but the "widow" knew it was literally fraud. Seems she was willing to commit fraud if she wasn't exposed, but many people crumble in the face of exposure.
      I too am from Missouri. If I had an able bodied neighbor that was defrauding the American government of tax dollars, you can bet your a** they'd be universally hated in our neighborhood!

    • @byronvanhook3467
      @byronvanhook3467 6 місяців тому +1

      It was fraud. She was not untitled for at least a couple reasons. They never lived together as husband and wife because this was a deal to scam the government out of a pension. She was a scammer.

    • @daisydukes8252
      @daisydukes8252 5 місяців тому

      @@dannyh8288There are plenty of them out there who will do it.

  • @danushaforknneer2749
    @danushaforknneer2749 7 місяців тому +5

    Did they have nail polish during the civil war. The picture shows nail polish. 😳

    • @SamStone1964
      @SamStone1964 4 місяці тому +2

      The photo was taken in 1955

  • @dormanchasteen8730
    @dormanchasteen8730 5 місяців тому +1

    The last child born to a Civil War Vet was Bob Hottenstine (1928) of Oklahoma

  • @rwbrock1
    @rwbrock1 29 днів тому

    My grandfather was a civil war veteran. He started his second family in his 60s and my father was his last child when he was in his 70s in 1919. I was born in 1955. My uncle was his last child to die in 2014 at age 100.

  • @da9618
    @da9618 Рік тому +17

    This reminds me of a president that held office in the early 1800s, his grandson is still alive today

    • @abril417
      @abril417 Рік тому +11

      I think its President Tyler.

    • @cak8132
      @cak8132 Рік тому +11

      President John Tyler. He married twice. His second wife was much younger than he and had 7 or 8 children. One of the grandsons died a few years ago but I believe the other one is still alive.

    • @rosescott9299
      @rosescott9299 7 місяців тому +7

      Yes John Tyler lived at his plantation, Sherwood Forest (in Virginia), in 1842 after leaving the White House, and his grandson is still alive and still lives there today!!!

    • @terri2494
      @terri2494 7 місяців тому +4

      Sometime five to ten years ago I met a man whose grandfather was born a slave a year or two before the end of the Civil War. He (the grandfather) was fifty or so when he had a son, and that son was fifty something when his son was born. That son/grandson was in his fifties when he told me this story.

    • @rongendron8705
      @rongendron8705 7 місяців тому +2

      That would be Pres. John Tyler (1840), who had 15 children. His grandson Harrison Tyler (95) is alive!

  • @jpturner171
    @jpturner171 7 місяців тому +6

    Wow!…RIP Helen

  • @Mike___Honcho
    @Mike___Honcho 6 місяців тому +2

    these pensions apparently were paid to widows of confederate soldiers, as well as union soldiers. i was a little surprised to learn this, but i think it honors lincoln's wishes, from his second inaugural address 41 days before his own death, to " bind up the nation's wounds, to care for him who shall have borne the battle and for his widow and his orphan ~ to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace among ourselves and with all nations."

  • @azcardguy7825
    @azcardguy7825 3 місяці тому +2

    It’s insane how a civil war widow was alive up until a few years ago… makes sense if you realize a 16 year old married an 85 year old l