PRONUNCIATION AND ACCENT ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS! You can get A+ in a speaking test with different accents, but you cannot get away with mispronouncing the words!! However, the word "Candidate" does have two correct pronunciation. Thank you everyone for reminding me. Hope you guys can learn something from this video!! Candidate的確有兩個正確讀音,但其他題目的發音應該只有一個正確官方答案,Desert 我們標明了是「名詞」。
不嬲係佢有問題,即使for fun根本就冇查證清楚就話人錯,係好唔尊重人的行為,仲要表現得:唔係呀,我查過你係錯的表現。佢係一個笑話,係我哋觀眾捧出嚟既笑話。宣揚香港人的不禮貌,幾好唔錯,反正一定有人支持佢。不過我覺得佢母語係廣東話,都味見佢捉人講廣東話就捉英文,覺得幾諷刺。人哋係澳洲的台灣人玩呢個影片係為推廣台灣文化,佢就為賣廣告,for fun 真係唔錯的UA-camr, 間中睇佢搞笑都幾好。
But my English speaking test is very tight on every grammatical mistake and even the details of pronunciation.The standard we use is the standard British pronunciation.
wrong - the point of the game is the pronunciation . you either pronounce it correctly according to Cambridge ( the one they used) with whatever accents or you don't.
There is something deeply problematic about commenting on people's pronunciation so that you can promote a language class. If you understand what the person is saying, then that is all that matters. These standards that measure "correctness" are constructed within specific cultural and historical contexts and reflect the biases and assumptions of these contexts. Going around telling people they don't say things the right way based on these standards is an attack on their identity, their histories and lived experiences.
Exactly! Particularly when he's telling NATIVE SPEAKERS that they're saying things wrong! Like people in Nigeria speak a different dialect of English, it's not "incorrect" just because it's different from British or American English...
It might sound rude, especially use excuse "challenge" to indirectly promote language lesson centre, but it's quiet common advertisement method. Since it's english, it might be quiet easy for adult to understand the other party talks especially if they're used to listen to lot of different people and accent, but conv with children sometimes it's hard (once I couldn't ask for water bcs the other party was an elementary school and they couldn't understand what I said), that's why there's RP (not to mention cantonese/chinese, wrong tones, could be different meaning/word)
@@genevieve8314 I don't think that just because it's a "common" advertisement method makes it right, and I think your example actually points out how more than just telling people they have to speak with a "correct" accent, they can learn to understand many different accents. Because there is no one "correct" accent and to decide which accent they should be able to speak with and understand does not only limit who they can communicate with, but also suggests that there are some who are worthier than others to talk to.
@@ricklauhk01 : People normally use the word "accent" to describe the different regional variation of English in the UK. With Chinese, it is normally "dialects". Cos English uses the same writing systems. (Alphabet.) And Chinese, uses different writing systems. (Hans brush strokes, or Manchu brush strokes, and Arabic I think not including Korean or Japanese scripts) And also can be different speaking systems too. This is why it is classified as a "dialect". With English, the writing system is the same, the speaking is different.
the way the interview was conducted was kinda obnoxious, but he actually pronounced it wrong. 'women' the plural is pronounced more like 'wimin' but he pronounced it like the singular 'woman'. source: i've lived in the UK all my life
Yes, I love that part too! Devising such a stupid game just to tell people that they are wrong is something only a mentally-challenged person will do, and got two here!
It’s inappropriate to say somebody’s pronunciation is wrong. There are varieties of English. There’s even a field of studies in Linguistics called “World Englishes”. We learn a language to get messages through, not to display how much of a dictionary you have memorized.
so you mean everyone's pronunciation is correct as long as others can guess the meaning? These are varieties of english do not mean all varieties are correct and official.
@@MrJason919 in the video most of them got the pronunciations correct,they weren't even correcting the pronunciations but claimed theirs to be wrong because they said it in a whole different accent when "100% correct pronunciation" don't really exist since everyone has their own accent,it's correct as long as they pronounced the words correctly regardless of accents,sure there are accurate ones according to the dictionary,but no one has to 100% follow it or else "they suck at pronouncing",we aren't robots my guy,accents affect one's pronunciation,that's why one single word can sound different from one another when spoken by people from different places
Absolutely, he act double standard after he claimed don't be afraid of making mistakes, now he tended to temp on others by using money. Native English speaker pronounce it right and some Torres supporters comments are really playing ideology game. I'm not saying that improve English is a bad thing but obviously Torres shows are really making me sickening as much even native speaker from US and UK won't playing such stupid things.
Improved English doesn't mean just pronunciation. It includes phonics, grammar and sentence structure. Pronunciation is probably the least important. What good is pronunciation if you can't property spell a word or construct a sentence properly.
in Hong Kong, many people judge how smart the other people are based on how fluent they speak English, that's why here we have such stupid test in this video, and some people like to show off by trying to mimic the British/ American accent, making the way they speak so unnatural
English is my primary language and the fact that neither of you recognise that a bunch of those words have multiple accepted pronunciations is shocking.
The testing is about checking the official and standard pronunciations. If you say "multiple accepted" pronunciations, which mean that those were not correct in the first place but as time goes by, people tend to "accept" as those have become understandable.
@@MrJason919 too bad during the test they didn't say that but rather "do you know how to say this word",if they want extreme accurate one from a certain dictionary they can say that,but the case is they didn't,they claim those who actually got the pronunciation correctly to be "mispronouncing" when that's not even the case,accents affect a person's pronunciation and not only that but there are so many official accepted pronunciations even for one word,as long as they didn't mess up the general pronunciation(for example:pronouncing water as wah-da or all as "aw",etc),they are correct and shouldn't be seen as "mispronunciation" when it's really not,they barely mispronounced it
wow!this couple makes me so angry when they don't understand there is a word called "accent" in the world. this video is so disrespectful! I totally understand why the English old man turned around and left, you were totally denied the knowledge of a man who from the UK, and that was so rude, that's why he got mad and left you!!
Yeah, that's exactly what's the point of the old British fellow turn away, that means Georgia are too ignorant. Torres and Georgia Gordon don't even born from England and had never studied in UK before, so what's the point of challenging others when they don't fully know language literature? I had met several native English speaker from US and mostly UK citizens for four years time. Once when I heard their dialogue every single day, and I already know what accents they spoke. I normally make every video is never be like Torres where he act double standard. That's why I dislike Torres and Georgia Gordon play ideology against people. Another funny thing is he claimed that anyone do not afraid of making mistakes and now he discouraging people by using money to tempting on others. That's even worse! Should be ashamed of them where they continued to toxic others. 😠😠😠😠😡😡😡
@@bensadventureblogger6658 Do you mind if I correct one of your mistakes? "do not afraid "-->" not to be afraid". Sorry I always correct my French and Russian friends on this specific error, just can't help it ! lol
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@@sswooy362436 : HK screwed up a lot, because it used a lot of American business books back in the days. It also screwed up because many of the educated degree holders went to American universities instead of British ones as well. Back in the days. This is ironic, since the financial sector is based on British rules and regulations and laws. So it should follow British rules... and not American ones. I sometimes think to myself whether we have had so many financial crashes in HK and in Asia, IS because people did not communicated well.. or knew what was happening... or even was basically unqualified ? So yes, it DOES matter whether you can speak good English, since understanding the other person is also important too. In this video, it shows that the game hosts, cannot listen that well... No wonder this city is on its knees. Even in Singapore now, I hear this "singlish", which is a bad habit. Since the older generation of Singapore citizens do speak good English. Without any tones and sounds. It is the latter ones that put in this funny speak, and supposed cute nuance into their speaking. "Is it?" "Is it ?" What is, what ?
welp actually I think they are a disgrace to the community of hk. As a 16 year old grew up from hk, i knew there's different accents throughout the world because I social. Watching him and his girlfriend made me rage for insulting other countries' accent.
I believe the first word “Candidate” can be spoken two different ways. The way people said it in your video who you considered wrong is the US version. Your way is the UK version. Everything else is fine though.
Kinda feel the English guy who walked away.. the way the interviewer conducted was quite insulting but he chose to play the game to be fair.. Been living in Australia for most of my time and in the US, never have I ever heard people pronouncing all these words correctly.. at this point I just don’t only find this video insulting to those who are interviewed but pretty much all Hong Kong people, you are basically telling everyone that HK professionals are bad at English when pretty much over half or even 70% of the population in Australia and US pronounce the exact same. You don’t even have an English accent but definitely with some HK or Chinese accent. So don’t judge on others, I doubt even an English professor would speak and write perfect English…
He should do one of these videos in the United States and England, challenging native speakers, then telling them how they're "wrong" with his HK-pretending-hard-to-be-British accent.
Videos like this always come off as a bit insulting. People pronounce words differently all over the world due to accent, dialects and regional differences in their speech. Especially when they put a trick question in at the end. Desert has two pronunciations, like bass. Both should have been accepted. Learning a language should be fun and none of these people "failed" at English. They just have their own way of speaking, even if it's not the standard Cambridge.
accents differ from incorrect pronunciations. The real world allows flexibility and mistakes as long as it can communicate and be understood, but there is no "own way of speaking" when it comes to speaking a language properly and correctly.
My thought as well, specifically asking the Bristolian how to pronounce WIMMEN to proof that's the only correct pronounciation is just wow.. Guess other than Bristolian english all everything is wrong? Lmao
Hi good morning my beautiful friend, you have a nice comment, it's really not good to insult others dialect, my name's Qiang Wang, what's your beautiful name?
@@christinacheong8767 In reality, there are almost 40 different dialects in the UK that sound different from each other, and in many cases use different spellings and word structures. In fact, there's pretty much one accent per county.
That is because, in chinese culture, we just want to "teach" a child, so that they can do something for society. Whereas over the years, in Europe. People teaches something in order to group their loyal citizens, and separate them. In China today, teaching a different dialect, and format, will group the people differently as well. But I think many people realises this now in China. Cos the reality is, NOBODY can be the same inside of China. So therefore, some chinese, overseas or inside the mainland, do not know which way to go. When English is taught, it taught as a "I want you to learn these words, and say these things, and in the future, you will write these things in a bank, in an academic settings and more"... But in reality, they may speak like a child back home. Or something. In the UK, the eduation system is kind of fair, they separate the different areas into different subjects and filter out the junk info, in case you confuse it with another job, or another area. In this video, it shows that, the maker of the video, do not understand what is "standard"... And why "standard" has to exist. Standard can only exist, if two parties are wanted and desired to trade, to share the same goal, to achieve the same objectives. There is no point to learn something, just to be different. Torre's English does has a kind of rhythm to it, but his pronunciation also is not English. I will say that he didn't go to an English school in the UK. For certain he didn't. His school is not in SE Asia, I'm sure of that.
Plenty of these words vary heavily depending on accent, there's already vast amounts of different accents in the UK alone, not to mention international English accents - according to your standards, plenty of native english speaker's in the UK alone would "fail" to speak "basic english". Despite being an English native and speaking the language fluently my entire life, I probably would've "failed" half of these as well. It's no surprise that the older gentlemen chose to walk away after that ridiculousness, I pronounce women the same way he does. As someone learning foreign languages, I can only imagine what this video did to some of those people's confidence in speaking english who in reality, spoke just fine - but you acted like they were from a different planet for it. You point out how "Even native speakers make mistakes when they talk" which is most definitely true, but is misleading here where native english accents play such a pivotal role. You're giving English learner's a skewed view of reality, and then following up this misleading narrative with advertising your affiliate so that they can "polish their pronunciation", whether that's purposeful or not I don't know, but it does seem detrimental to the learners in my opinion. The people involved in this video were also exposed to unnecessary risk due to the improper use of face shields, the moving the mic to and from different people's faces, and just the risk of the close contact involved in this video at all.
I agree.. it was incredibly pedantic. I felt bad for the Indian guy too, I thought his "cupboard" was absolutely fine, he just had an accent. He's fluent as far as I'm concerned.
@@puccarts well it's ok to have an accent. But it's not ok to pronounce a word wrongly. It's more like him pronouncing the word wrongly instead of having an accent
@@leannegreen389 No, it is because Oxford and Cambridge are kinda against each other in the uk. Both universities compete against each other all the time to show who's the greatest in the uk.
喂呀!You didn't specify that you're testing them in British english wor Torres... that's not fair! In the U.S., we do say "can-di-daaate". Joke’s on you hahaha
But because HK was part of the BRITISH governance... Shouldn't it sound more like British English ? Or English English ? The way that the girl handled that gentleman's word on women... was extremely rude. Cos in the UK, the sounds are heavier. And he IS speaking about the old English... Plurals and so forth. She should have listened ! No wonder so many media keep saying that, the youngsters do not listen. She did not listen. Older generation like him, was taught ALL of the old grammar rules... Learning from these online lesson sometimes, do miss a lot of the old rules, and styles as well. I used to not believe why anyone with an English degree can get into banking. Now I do. They can at least produce a proper document. This is extremely terrible.... How can you sell any products, when your standard is not even quite there ? And mis-translation can happen ?
Just because you have a different accent doesn’t mean others are wrong, highly insulting and it’s time to get off your “high horse”. You’re not even a native and your pronunciation is often off at times too
Torres I’m really disappointed with you, do you actually know that different kinds of people around the globe have different accents. For example my friend is an Irish, normally when we say the word fuck we pronounce it fuck, however In Irish,you don’t pronounce it that way, they actually pronounce fuck as “fook”. So do you consider that wrong, definitely not. It’s because they have an Irish accent, it doesn’t mean that they’re wrong .Torres this video has once again proved that you don’t know how to embrace people with different accents.Furthermore, judging people’s dialect is actually pretty rude.
hmmmm, the right or wrong range is definitely wider if you take accents into consideration. yet it is a game which can also win money, so I believe setting a tight line make sense, On the other hand, I don't see they ridicule others, in deed, I think it is a very good lingoda advertisement , LOL
I think everyone pronounces “candidate” correctly. It is just a distinction between British English and American English. Most Americans say can-di-date whereas British say can-di-did
The thing is, being in HK, so many people speak American English already. Because of the many American banks in HK.... This is also why so many classes, and various other educational materials never followed British materials. Which it should, because it was a British overseas' state before.
@@MeiinUK Correct. With the world being so globalized, there really isn't a reason to be stickling about which origin of English is the "correct" one. Language itself is morphing constantly with time. We should just embrace the variety and focus on understanding one another.
this video is actually eh... Women is pronounced as ˈwo͝omən, that’s the answer I found in Google and I believe most of Americans pronounce in that way. You guys really pissed off that British man.
@@SillytanN If most people pronounce it that way, then it's not wrong. Language is a set of rules for communication and if a certain pronunciation is adopted widely, that is THE correct pronunciation. You'd find pronunciation of most words today very different than how the same word was pronounced a century ago
Somehow only the UK (and/or the part of the UK that you cared about) pronunciation is "correct". Please perform your "test" on streets in the US, Australia, or perhaps Scotland (still in the UK since your only care about the UK). And of course, please to the same thing across different states/regions in each of these countries/areas. I would be very interested in seeing your video, i.e., please tell them they have the "incorrect" pronunciation, and they should take your English courses to improve their English speaking skill as a native English speaker. The fact that the British guy (3:40) didn't really care about what you were about to say was clear enough that this "test" means nothing. How about the word "answer" at 6:39 huh?
9:12 This guy should thank and be grateful to his parents for paying for his education in Canada instead of the Canadian government who has done nothing extra specifically for you. By the way, both pronunciations of tomato are correct, whereby one is British English while the other American. 😂😂
This video is another example of a UA-cam/social influencer trying to make a video seem like "entertainment" but is in fact an advert in disguise (Lingoda in this case). While the premise of this game/challenge seems very light-hearted when viewing it at a superficial level, the message it is sending to some viewers who may not be confident in English skills is quite toxic. They seem to suggest that there is only one right way to pronounce words, when in fact due to your accent (everyone has one) and also the context (verb vs noun for example), there may be multiple ways a word can be pronounced.
I never find out how entertainment it is, I'm not saying that learning English is a bad thing but obviously Torres broadcasting something which I found is pointless and nothing different than TVB look from the left and right. That's not creativity. That's what I called naive and simple.
I hope that Lingoda will sue his ass off...."This is some of our so called 'marketing individual'... who tried to harass some old gentleman, to gain provocations and views.. in order to sell your product"..... I would laugh my face off... If that English gentleman, happens to work for the British Embassy... or for the actual banks, or even a German banks..... I would really love to see their response in their local embassies !!!!....
I lived in the US before, heard only "can-di-dait" most of the time, it is not wrong pronunciation. The word cupboard is tricky and many people mispronounce it.
3:23 it's different dialect, brits pronounce women and wih-men. Northern England and possibly Scotland say wu-men but yeah it's best go by how the dictionary pronounces words.
Which country accent IPA are u guys using? because then this video tries to promote there is ONLY ONE correct way of speaking English. Which I do not think is a best way to promote English. I mean I love you guys and your contents but Idk about this.
It’s so ironic that Georgia believed in the “teacher” from Bristol but not the old man, who is from England as well. Nice logic and choice of source :)
That's the point of it because the man said that's how they pronounced WOMEN in England when he's clearly wrong but too narcissistic to admit, she had to check with another English person to confirm because she got thrown off by his insistence on the matter.
@@ruemignon when is it ever pronounced the same as woman unless you didn't fuck it up? natives pronounce things wrong too and cant take criticism from a non native
@@hyukleberry5567 You didn't get my point. The correct pronunciation for the word 'women' is [ wim-in ], no doubt about it. That British man was a douche. His ego apparently grew too big and prevented him from admitting his mistake, just like you mentioned it. However, when I said 'No' in my previous comment, I meant the woman who made(or co-made) this video did not have to check with another English person because she already knew the answer. She was just being nasty like a three yo yelling at the crowd trying to make a smart@ss about herself --- 'look everyone, that British dude was wrong and I am right!'. ...*puke*
Depends on how u view that, it's like the science QnA held in Cambridge or whatever, ppl shouldnt be ashamed by not knowing the answer but see it as a chance to learn new stuff...
Perhaps you should be more specific about which region is the pronunciation originate from ? As a Canadian the pronunciation is bit different than our cousin across the pond and down south !
I like them both. But I’m more concerned for other people on the street, people do not deserve this( just in case they do carry the virus). It’s kinda selfish in my opinion plus not wearing a mask doesn’t add ANY value to their video. I hope public fingers or people with so many followers can set good examples
To be honest, if I was to hire an English teacher for my department, or my team, I would pick the Canadian. Lol..... I want HIS accent ! At least it sounds soothing to my ears. I can get very agitated these days at being corrected. And doing this funny sounding thing, is not acceptable in most organisation. It is STUPID.
I totally understand why people get offended for this kinda videos, like how that British guy reacted. I found a lot of these so called English teachers don't understand some basic linguistic fact. E.g. language is descriptive. You don't get to teach people how they should pronounce a word unless they are incomprehensible. English has so many dialects. In US colloquial English it's 100% acceptable to say candida(/ei/)t and wo(/ʊ/)men. You guys are awfully ignorant honestly speaking. Pronunciation rules are alive, please learn more about it.
i find it is usually non-native english speakers/teachers who get hung up on such issues. i think in HK a lot them just believe there is always one correct answer because it's easier than having gray areas.
I wouldn't say that the interviewers are arrogant - the whole concept of this video is quite arrogant/offensive actually. People have different accents depending on where they're from or where they've lived - I'm not sure you can authoritatively say there is only one "correct" pronunciation of a word.
If you can speak without a problem, others can trust you more... and can trust to give you more work... If you cannot even spell, or write in English, then why would any English bosses trust you ??? This makes no sense. You get judged any way.
As a native Chinese speaker, among all the words, I feel "candidate" is the most difficult one.. Although I know the correct pronunciation, I still pronounce with the "date" sound at the back most of the time especially when speaking fast..
Don't lose sleep over it, I lived here for over 40 years and native people here still pronounce the words just like most on the video.... over thinking makes it worse for you. Being confident more important than trying to get it perfect.
I don’t think it is important how you pronounce it. Americans pronounce it with the “date”. You say it either way. It is just a word, torris is being picky about it. It won’t be a problem as long as ppl can understand you. Just say wtever lol.
With some of the English words, sometimes, the stretch point is in a different location. So when some people speak the date way... It is more like this .."can-dee-daaate". The stretch point is on the A. But the English way is more like a quick and sharp pronunciation without any stretch anywhere. "can-di-dat". You can say the "tsa" sound for the T, but no e. So, with the added e, you have to stretch the A sound. i.e. "daaate". You will find this stretch sound of the A quite often in words. This is how you will sound different to a listener.
You guys have mistakenly put the wrong form at 1:45-1:46. What she said is zaczynamy, not zacznijmy, which is the perfect variant and means we will start.
It's definitely pronounced cupb(u)rd in the US & Canada. No question about it. They should've stated clearly that there's an R sound for North America. I mean, that's just over 60% of the English-speaking world. Lol
Women is pronounced as Woh-men in certain US accents, especially the Midwest and Southern accents. So the women at 0:09 definitely pronounced the word according to the American English accent.
What’s the point of this video? 1.Embarrassing hk professionals? 2. There ain’t ‘standard English’ according to Kachru Model. There r varieties and ppl in diff countries hv may hv their own ways of pronouncing. the same word.
I had already told you, Torres wasn't studied in overseas before and he thought he really understand English that much without even noticing the problem of what country does any people speak. So if he really think don't be afraid of making mistake, then why did he censor his own video regarding his life habit on 100K living in a hotel room? What did he scare for? I did not forget that.
You have to remember that US English and European English is pretty different. 美國唔係大晒架. Also as mentioned by some comments, hey're not failing "basic English", it's just that the accent is different to yours. There's no one correct English accent. Think of all the accents/dialects in Chinese, each has their own 特色 and they aren't "wrong".
Torres, if this game is based on the pronunciation in the Cambridge dictionary, then I think your opening question should be "Can Hong Kong people say the basic words in British English ". I mean, to be honest, take the word "candidate" from your game as an example, both candi-date and candi-did are acceptable...still, not trolling here and love your show.
I’m not going to even comment on every single word on this list. For the first word “candidate”, according to at least Oxford dictionary, it can be pronounced either /ˈkændɪdət/ or /ˈkændɪdeɪt/. Stop imposing your own version of pronunciations on other people, thinking that you’re only one who’s correct.
Thank you. Americans pronounce Candidate the same way they were. This man is obviously only know British English and knows nothing about other English dialects and accents and arrogantly assumes British English is correct English and all other English are incorrect.
其實都唔知有啲乜嘢好比較,英美澳加人啲英文發音各有不同,大家都有各自嘅發音風格,你憑乜嘢話人哋講錯?即係好似我認識啲澳洲人 " what are you doing to die (today)" 我又唔會笑佢哋發音法歪咗, 又或者有啲人將often講咗 "offen" 我又唔會批評佢係咪講得啱。又或者啲愛爾蘭人問你" what are you trying to see (say), 咁你會點樣回應對方?
PRONUNCIATION AND ACCENT ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS! You can get A+ in a speaking test with different accents, but you cannot get away with mispronouncing the words!!
However, the word "Candidate" does have two correct pronunciation. Thank you everyone for reminding me. Hope you guys can learn something from this video!!
Candidate的確有兩個正確讀音,但其他題目的發音應該只有一個正確官方答案,Desert 我們標明了是「名詞」。
我想說我在美國從小生活十幾年,各種口音也都聽過不少,居然第一題就錯
只能說 DSE錄音都係讀 date 好彩考評局冇10幾年黎都教錯😂
我反而未聽過can di dids,個個都係can di date🌚所以,讀音呢家野,真係跟大隊,一個人甘讀,就個個都甘讀,完全唔會理字典。而且,一字多音,又有美國口音/英國口音。唉~語言確實是個很奇妙(難懂)的東西。
from oxford dictionary, women pronounce as /ˈwʊmən/
最后一句话才是最重要呀!😄
其實兩部英國字典牛津與劍橋都收錄兩個發音kandɪdeɪt/ 和ˈkandɪdət/的國際音標,只不過牛津只提供kandɪdeɪt的真人發聲連結,而劍橋只提供ˈkandɪdət/的發聲連結,而剛好主持人只懂click 連結聽發音而不懂看國際音標,又只懂查劍橋字典,所以誤以為只有ˈkandɪdət才正確。實際上兩個讀音都是英國通行的讀音。美國字典meriam Webster 同樣收綠此兩個讀音。根本無關所謂英式和美式英語的分別。所以話,唔怕你唔識英文,只怕你識一半唔識一半。
特登去查證,係兩個都有收錄,原來睇comment都可以學到嘢😂
以劍橋網上字典為例,candidate 的國際音標是:UK /ˈkæn.dɪ.dət/ /ˈkæn.dɪ.deɪt/
US /ˈkæn.dɪ.dət/ /ˈkæn.dɪ.deɪt/
從以上不難理解,英國有兩種讀法,美國亦有「同樣兩種」讀法。意謂無關英式英語和美式英語的分別。
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不嬲係佢有問題,即使for fun根本就冇查證清楚就話人錯,係好唔尊重人的行為,仲要表現得:唔係呀,我查過你係錯的表現。佢係一個笑話,係我哋觀眾捧出嚟既笑話。宣揚香港人的不禮貌,幾好唔錯,反正一定有人支持佢。不過我覺得佢母語係廣東話,都味見佢捉人講廣東話就捉英文,覺得幾諷刺。人哋係澳洲的台灣人玩呢個影片係為推廣台灣文化,佢就為賣廣告,for fun 真係唔錯的UA-camr, 間中睇佢搞笑都幾好。
差D比條片DX樣誤導,重以為自己學左咁多年既野都係錯....真係學片中外國人咁既樣....曬9氣
fun fact: english is not really everyone’s first language, doesn’t matter if they have an accent. Embrace it!!
I agree
This is why English is the most common language in the world.
Well said 💯💯💯
But my English speaking test is very tight on every grammatical mistake and even the details of pronunciation.The standard we use is the standard British pronunciation.
wrong - the point of the game is the pronunciation . you either pronounce it correctly according to Cambridge ( the one they used) with whatever accents or you don't.
Both pronunciations of “candidate” are correct.
And I really hate it when people judge others’ language skills by how they pronounce a single word.
agreed because candidate have different pronunciation in different accent
women too
@@TeamAgreeAgree I have asked my teacher before she said both pronunciations are all correct
@@rachelwinnie3556 yeah this video is misleading
@@TeamAgreeAgree not true
There is something deeply problematic about commenting on people's pronunciation so that you can promote a language class. If you understand what the person is saying, then that is all that matters. These standards that measure "correctness" are constructed within specific cultural and historical contexts and reflect the biases and assumptions of these contexts. Going around telling people they don't say things the right way based on these standards is an attack on their identity, their histories and lived experiences.
yeah, the correct pronunciation will change over time as its "People who use the language" decides and not your Stupid "Cambridge or Oxford"
Insecurity sells
Exactly! Particularly when he's telling NATIVE SPEAKERS that they're saying things wrong! Like people in Nigeria speak a different dialect of English, it's not "incorrect" just because it's different from British or American English...
It might sound rude, especially use excuse "challenge" to indirectly promote language lesson centre, but it's quiet common advertisement method. Since it's english, it might be quiet easy for adult to understand the other party talks especially if they're used to listen to lot of different people and accent, but conv with children sometimes it's hard (once I couldn't ask for water bcs the other party was an elementary school and they couldn't understand what I said), that's why there's RP (not to mention cantonese/chinese, wrong tones, could be different meaning/word)
@@genevieve8314 I don't think that just because it's a "common" advertisement method makes it right, and I think your example actually points out how more than just telling people they have to speak with a "correct" accent, they can learn to understand many different accents. Because there is no one "correct" accent and to decide which accent they should be able to speak with and understand does not only limit who they can communicate with, but also suggests that there are some who are worthier than others to talk to.
This is a terrible video. You shouldn’t criticize dialectal differences in pronunciation
reported it already
Is it really a difference between different dialects or different accents?
@@ricklauhk01 : People normally use the word "accent" to describe the different regional variation of English in the UK. With Chinese, it is normally "dialects". Cos English uses the same writing systems. (Alphabet.) And Chinese, uses different writing systems. (Hans brush strokes, or Manchu brush strokes, and Arabic I think not including Korean or Japanese scripts) And also can be different speaking systems too. This is why it is classified as a "dialect". With English, the writing system is the same, the speaking is different.
@@garryleung5707 Chinese male karen?
@@TheCottonLife Nope, Just t typical Hong Kong person.
this is stupid. people have different dialect.
True
exactly
and WE all fell for it by making comments... *sigh* oh well.. on to the next one! lol....
@@yauyuping3942 yes. This video is pretty lame.
U meant accents?
I love the part when the English guy walked away, the perfect response to stupid people trying to say he pronounced it wrong.
Agree. There’s a gap between dictionaries and how people actually speak in every language. It’s stupid to force people to follow the dictionary.
He might have acted more violently had the male host been asking him that question...
the way the interview was conducted was kinda obnoxious, but he actually pronounced it wrong. 'women' the plural is pronounced more like 'wimin' but he pronounced it like the singular 'woman'. source: i've lived in the UK all my life
Yes, I love that part too! Devising such a stupid game just to tell people that they are wrong is something only a mentally-challenged person will do, and got two here!
he was the stupid one who thought he pronounced everything correctly just becos he is a native
It’s inappropriate to say somebody’s pronunciation is wrong. There are varieties of English. There’s even a field of studies in Linguistics called “World Englishes”.
We learn a language to get messages through, not to display how much of a dictionary you have memorized.
so you mean everyone's pronunciation is correct as long as others can guess the meaning? These are varieties of english do not mean all varieties are correct and official.
@@MrJason919 in the video most of them got the pronunciations correct,they weren't even correcting the pronunciations but claimed theirs to be wrong because they said it in a whole different accent when "100% correct pronunciation" don't really exist since everyone has their own accent,it's correct as long as they pronounced the words correctly regardless of accents,sure there are accurate ones according to the dictionary,but no one has to 100% follow it or else "they suck at pronouncing",we aren't robots my guy,accents affect one's pronunciation,that's why one single word can sound different from one another when spoken by people from different places
@@fruitguzzi9122 Are you drunk? Also: PRONUNCIATION AND ACCENT ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS!
I can't agree with you,since bad pronunciation did exist and you are not some kind of professionals
@@MrJason919yeah, that's my question
It’s actually quite stupid to judge someone’s language skills by how he/she says a word...
Absolutely, he act double standard after he claimed don't be afraid of making mistakes, now he tended to temp on others by using money. Native English speaker pronounce it right and some Torres supporters comments are really playing ideology game. I'm not saying that improve English is a bad thing but obviously Torres shows are really making me sickening as much even native speaker from US and UK won't playing such stupid things.
Haha Exactly, you know even Chinese have a lot of dialect and accent !
Improved English doesn't mean just pronunciation. It includes phonics, grammar and sentence structure. Pronunciation is probably the least important. What good is pronunciation if you can't property spell a word or construct a sentence properly.
in Hong Kong, many people judge how smart the other people are based on how fluent they speak English, that's why here we have such stupid test in this video, and some people like to show off by trying to mimic the British/ American accent, making the way they speak so unnatural
@@bensadventureblogger6658 come on this is Hong Kong, we value people 's pronounication v much🤣
我吾覺得男主持講嘅英文都係正確. 你要咁比較咁你不如分好啲accent考人.
就講英國都有40種dialects, 你吾可以話佢錯.
佢哋唔知英國有好多dialects
This is hyper correction. I dislike this video.
same
same ....so stupid ...even the host english just average ....
English is my primary language and the fact that neither of you recognise that a bunch of those words have multiple accepted pronunciations is shocking.
The testing is about checking the official and standard pronunciations. If you say "multiple accepted" pronunciations, which mean that those were not correct in the first place but as time goes by, people tend to "accept" as those have become understandable.
@@MrJason919 too bad during the test they didn't say that but rather "do you know how to say this word",if they want extreme accurate one from a certain dictionary they can say that,but the case is they didn't,they claim those who actually got the pronunciation correctly to be "mispronouncing" when that's not even the case,accents affect a person's pronunciation and not only that but there are so many official accepted pronunciations even for one word,as long as they didn't mess up the general pronunciation(for example:pronouncing water as wah-da or all as "aw",etc),they are correct and shouldn't be seen as "mispronunciation" when it's really not,they barely mispronounced it
wow!this couple makes me so angry when they don't understand there is a word called "accent" in the world. this video is so disrespectful! I totally understand why the English old man turned around and left, you were totally denied the knowledge of a man who from the UK, and that was so rude, that's why he got mad and left you!!
Yeah, that's exactly what's the point of the old British fellow turn away, that means Georgia are too ignorant. Torres and Georgia Gordon don't even born from England and had never studied in UK before, so what's the point of challenging others when they don't fully know language literature? I had met several native English speaker from US and mostly UK citizens for four years time. Once when I heard their dialogue every single day, and I already know what accents they spoke. I normally make every video is never be like Torres where he act double standard. That's why I dislike Torres and Georgia Gordon play ideology against people. Another funny thing is he claimed that anyone do not afraid of making mistakes and now he discouraging people by using money to tempting on others. That's even worse! Should be ashamed of them where they continued to toxic others. 😠😠😠😠😡😡😡
@@bensadventureblogger6658 Do you mind if I correct one of your mistakes? "do not afraid "-->" not to be afraid". Sorry I always correct my French and Russian friends on this specific error, just can't help it ! lol
@@maxhope7691 this comment is bit ironic to him lol
給了你們第一次dislike,因為真的太令人失望了,你們憑甚麼說他們讀"錯",完全不懂尊重人!來自不同地方的人的英文口音當然會有差異,這才是語言多姿多彩之處!想不到你們竟然是"正音魔人"
My first time seeing this expression "正音魔人" lol
这也要杠,如果按你这样说,这游戏怎么运行。
杠精
总有一个正确的读法吧,这里考验的是英语水平,那如果按你说的别人有口音,那怎么去测别人英语水平?虽然别人平常说英语有口音,但是要读出正确发音的单词肯定没问题
按這個說法,英語口試完全沒有存在的必要,每次考試都是噁心低劣的口音歧視
This is so stupid. The guy has a strong accent to start with, how can he criticise others? What a joke lol
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Very true. You can put on masks with shields.
The male host is a total Chinese, u can’t blame him for that
@@samtzang Yeah , I was watching the video and wondering why the interviewers weren’t wearing a mask under the shield
Bruhh they are kinda dumb
Actually, your video here is saying American and Australian English pronunciation is wrong...
As Im born and grow up in hk..
Even learning british english
..but I also speaking American eng ..no reason just more useful
@@sswooy362436 : HK screwed up a lot, because it used a lot of American business books back in the days. It also screwed up because many of the educated degree holders went to American universities instead of British ones as well. Back in the days. This is ironic, since the financial sector is based on British rules and regulations and laws. So it should follow British rules... and not American ones. I sometimes think to myself whether we have had so many financial crashes in HK and in Asia, IS because people did not communicated well.. or knew what was happening... or even was basically unqualified ?
So yes, it DOES matter whether you can speak good English, since understanding the other person is also important too. In this video, it shows that the game hosts, cannot listen that well... No wonder this city is on its knees. Even in Singapore now, I hear this "singlish", which is a bad habit. Since the older generation of Singapore citizens do speak good English. Without any tones and sounds. It is the latter ones that put in this funny speak, and supposed cute nuance into their speaking.
"Is it?"
"Is it ?" What is, what ?
welp actually I think they are a disgrace to the community of hk. As a 16 year old grew up from hk, i knew there's different accents throughout the world because I social. Watching him and his girlfriend made me rage for insulting other countries' accent.
I believe the first word “Candidate” can be spoken two different ways. The way people said it in your video who you considered wrong is the US version. Your way is the UK version. Everything else is fine though.
Yeah
I thought people put these issues down long time ago, ha. But it's interesting to bring it up once in a while.
We usually say it with the short vowel in the US. Some people do say it with the long a. No one cares either way.
Same pronunciation in Canada, if anyone's asking...
And no "t' at the end. So it's like can-di-dae
Kinda feel the English guy who walked away.. the way the interviewer conducted was quite insulting but he chose to play the game to be fair..
Been living in Australia for most of my time and in the US, never have I ever heard people pronouncing all these words correctly.. at this point I just don’t only find this video insulting to those who are interviewed but pretty much all Hong Kong people, you are basically telling everyone that HK professionals are bad at English when pretty much over half or even 70% of the population in Australia and US pronounce the exact same.
You don’t even have an English accent but definitely with some HK or Chinese accent. So don’t judge on others, I doubt even an English professor would speak and write perfect English…
yeah pronunciation will change if there are deviations in what ##real life people say and theoretical way
He should do one of these videos in the United States and England, challenging native speakers, then telling them how they're "wrong" with his HK-pretending-hard-to-be-British accent.
With respect, their pronunciations of “Candidate” are both correct.
Yeah agree..that should be correct... according to American or asian or british or Australian accent
yeah in AmE it's Kandhdayt
Exactly all the words besides memo can be pronounced either way
The host himself speaks with a distinct HK accent and yet going on the street to judge others, is a bit ironic.
i thought that's us accent?
@@antheia668 That's HK trying to do a US accent.
The older guy was like: how dare you?!
At the end: Dicky Cheung must be really proud!
This is stupid.
‘Find out the truth?’
More like finding the answer you want
自暴其短,而家係人都知 A famous UA-camr fails basic English and social etiquette
Videos like this always come off as a bit insulting. People pronounce words differently all over the world due to accent, dialects and regional differences in their speech.
Especially when they put a trick question in at the end. Desert has two pronunciations, like bass. Both should have been accepted. Learning a language should be fun and none of these people "failed" at English. They just have their own way of speaking, even if it's not the standard Cambridge.
accents differ from incorrect pronunciations. The real world allows flexibility and mistakes as long as it can communicate and be understood, but there is no "own way of speaking" when it comes to speaking a language properly and correctly.
My thought as well, specifically asking the Bristolian how to pronounce WIMMEN to proof that's the only correct pronounciation is just wow.. Guess other than Bristolian english all everything is wrong? Lmao
Hi good morning my beautiful friend, you have a nice comment, it's really not good to insult others dialect, my name's Qiang Wang, what's your beautiful name?
@@christinacheong8767 In reality, there are almost 40 different dialects in the UK that sound different from each other, and in many cases use different spellings and word structures. In fact, there's pretty much one accent per county.
Desert 在字典中有兩個讀音, 被人說錯的真的不合理.
唔同地方嘅人講嘢都唔一樣,有口音,好正常啫,更何況你嗰個讀音唔係唯一讀法,你跟住你嗰個字典讀都啱,但唔代表其他人錯。你用你個標準去斷定啲人讀得啱定錯都幾好笑喎😨點解推算法會推你出嚟🥵
語言只有地方性,没有標準性。
咁如果有個地方嘅語言同廣東話好似,但是將你讀成我,將我讀成佢,你可唔可以接受?
冇問題喎,人地地方若係咁溝通咪冇問題囉
香港人唔好成日以為自己廣東話是「正宗」,我聽好多香港人話新移民d廣東話「唔啱音」,其實人地係講緊廣東省內自己城鎮嘅地道廣東話。真自以為是...
@@jackytan3929 香港人不嬲自以為是
That is because, in chinese culture, we just want to "teach" a child, so that they can do something for society. Whereas over the years, in Europe. People teaches something in order to group their loyal citizens, and separate them. In China today, teaching a different dialect, and format, will group the people differently as well. But I think many people realises this now in China. Cos the reality is, NOBODY can be the same inside of China. So therefore, some chinese, overseas or inside the mainland, do not know which way to go. When English is taught, it taught as a "I want you to learn these words, and say these things, and in the future, you will write these things in a bank, in an academic settings and more"... But in reality, they may speak like a child back home. Or something. In the UK, the eduation system is kind of fair, they separate the different areas into different subjects and filter out the junk info, in case you confuse it with another job, or another area.
In this video, it shows that, the maker of the video, do not understand what is "standard"... And why "standard" has to exist. Standard can only exist, if two parties are wanted and desired to trade, to share the same goal, to achieve the same objectives. There is no point to learn something, just to be different.
Torre's English does has a kind of rhythm to it, but his pronunciation also is not English. I will say that he didn't go to an English school in the UK. For certain he didn't. His school is not in SE Asia, I'm sure of that.
@@03curry.l6 地域岐視?
Kinda clickbait title. If they can have fluent enough conversations, they don't fail at basic english.
How about improving your weird intonation and accent before correcting others' accents or pronunciation?
Plenty of these words vary heavily depending on accent, there's already vast amounts of different accents in the UK alone, not to mention international English accents - according to your standards, plenty of native english speaker's in the UK alone would "fail" to speak "basic english". Despite being an English native and speaking the language fluently my entire life, I probably would've "failed" half of these as well. It's no surprise that the older gentlemen chose to walk away after that ridiculousness, I pronounce women the same way he does. As someone learning foreign languages, I can only imagine what this video did to some of those people's confidence in speaking english who in reality, spoke just fine - but you acted like they were from a different planet for it. You point out how "Even native speakers make mistakes when they talk" which is most definitely true, but is misleading here where native english accents play such a pivotal role. You're giving English learner's a skewed view of reality, and then following up this misleading narrative with advertising your affiliate so that they can "polish their pronunciation", whether that's purposeful or not I don't know, but it does seem detrimental to the learners in my opinion. The people involved in this video were also exposed to unnecessary risk due to the improper use of face shields, the moving the mic to and from different people's faces, and just the risk of the close contact involved in this video at all.
I agree.. it was incredibly pedantic. I felt bad for the Indian guy too, I thought his "cupboard" was absolutely fine, he just had an accent. He's fluent as far as I'm concerned.
Are u from uk?
Most native english speakers, even english professors would get half of these words "wrong," according to this grifter.
@@puccarts well it's ok to have an accent. But it's not ok to pronounce a word wrongly. It's more like him pronouncing the word wrongly instead of having an accent
agree
: It is according to Cambridge dictionary.
I read the Oxford.
英國阿伯真的幹話王
我懂他 其實在嗆女主持
就像質疑中國人的中文很差
這讓人無法接受
@@leannegreen389 No, it is because Oxford and Cambridge are kinda against each other in the uk. Both universities compete against each other all the time to show who's the greatest in the uk.
@@pascal.chu_guitar7329 yes, I lived in the uk but I just wanna stand for him coz competing accent is so stupid lol
@@leannegreen389 haha I lived in the uk as well, that guy is a typical English lol but he is actually wrong pronouncing the word “women”
lemme tell you a joke:English gentleman lol
喂呀!You didn't specify that you're testing them in British english wor Torres... that's not fair! In the U.S., we do say "can-di-daaate". Joke’s on you hahaha
you said it. BTW do American pronounce cupboard as cup-board?
i love how when scottish people speak english it is scottish english but when hong kong people speak english it is improper english
你唔好搞笑啦 你香港口音都咁明顯.....
簡直自暴其短 自己出嚟出醜
口音同讀音係兩樣野黎喎。 我覺得真係神奇, 你地竟然唔識分。 口音似NATIVE 就可以讀錯曬 ?? 咁駛咩讀書
所以?
@@25557813 佢地最搞笑係明明發錯音又話自己只係口音重。 😆
@@littlegoddess 佢應該同片主英語水平差唔多,仲要自信L
i thought "candidate" can be pronounced two ways: can-di-'deit' & can-di-'duht'
yea,the former one is american pronounciation
yes, so both are correct
But because HK was part of the BRITISH governance... Shouldn't it sound more like British English ? Or English English ? The way that the girl handled that gentleman's word on women... was extremely rude. Cos in the UK, the sounds are heavier. And he IS speaking about the old English... Plurals and so forth. She should have listened ! No wonder so many media keep saying that, the youngsters do not listen. She did not listen. Older generation like him, was taught ALL of the old grammar rules... Learning from these online lesson sometimes, do miss a lot of the old rules, and styles as well. I used to not believe why anyone with an English degree can get into banking. Now I do. They can at least produce a proper document. This is extremely terrible....
How can you sell any products, when your standard is not even quite there ? And mis-translation can happen ?
The word "candidate" can be pronounced "kandɪdeɪt" or "kandɪdət"
Just because you have a different accent doesn’t mean others are wrong, highly insulting and it’s time to get off your “high horse”. You’re not even a native and your pronunciation is often off at times too
His pronunciation is perfect according to HongGrish dictionary and accent. lol
Torres I’m really disappointed with you, do you actually know that different kinds of people around the globe have different accents. For example my friend is an Irish, normally when we say the word fuck we pronounce it fuck, however In Irish,you don’t pronounce it that way, they actually pronounce fuck as “fook”. So do you consider that wrong, definitely not. It’s because they have an Irish accent, it doesn’t mean that they’re wrong .Torres this video has once again proved that you don’t know how to embrace people with different accents.Furthermore, judging people’s dialect is actually pretty rude.
hmmmm, the right or wrong range is definitely wider if you take accents into consideration. yet it is a game which can also win money, so I believe setting a tight line make sense, On the other hand, I don't see they ridicule others, in deed, I think it is a very good lingoda advertisement , LOL
@@P222RL BOLLOCKS
依家啲人真係冇家教
@@P222RL my apologies
Apologies accepted
This is an unethical way to promote a language-learning app I’d say.
I think everyone pronounces “candidate” correctly. It is just a distinction between British English and American English. Most Americans say can-di-date whereas British say can-di-did
Canadian pronounces the same way as American English.
I would've said "Can-di-dat"... the e is silent.
@@phylliswong8643 Same in India
@@phylliswong8643 In general yes, but it depends on the word though.
American English dominates the English language now😂
English is diverse and many accents / pronunciations are also acceptable
I feel like they're punishing people for their accents. I feel like the guy hosts accent would've had him failing some of these
True, he has a bit of Hong Kong accent which makes him not pronouncing words accurately. But he’s the one to judge. What the actual fuck.
@@mayhimminecraft1999 damn disgusting right lol
@@mayhimminecraft1999 He already fails on JP Morgan at the beginning, he says JP 摩根 in Cantonese. And Polish as Polis.
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“You’re not from England are you?”
“Challenged? Alright let it go, bye”
You guys are wrong about the pronunciation of “Candidate”. It can be either.
Really? I guess majority of the Americans are wrong then.
@@freedeworld my Bad.. I meant it CAN be either.
Some of your pronunciation are incorrect.
The thing is, being in HK, so many people speak American English already. Because of the many American banks in HK.... This is also why so many classes, and various other educational materials never followed British materials. Which it should, because it was a British overseas' state before.
@@MeiinUK Correct. With the world being so globalized, there really isn't a reason to be stickling about which origin of English is the "correct" one. Language itself is morphing constantly with time. We should just embrace the variety and focus on understanding one another.
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其實我覺得啲人行開係因為你唔戴口罩😂😂最好都係帶返個口罩,都幾危險
仲有最後嗰段嗰位城大哥哥,點解你覺得英式發音嘅 "Tomato" 係唔正確? 如果你與美式英語發音標準去歐洲旅遊,交都有排嗌…仲有 advertisment 呢個字你會想點樣發音? 你想我將個syllable放喺邊部分?
this video is actually eh... Women is pronounced as ˈwo͝omən, that’s the answer I found in Google and I believe most of Americans pronounce in that way. You guys really pissed off that British man.
that shows why so many ppl got their pronunciations wrong becos they learn from google instead of professionals and dictionaries
@@SillytanN If most people pronounce it that way, then it's not wrong. Language is a set of rules for communication and if a certain pronunciation is adopted widely, that is THE correct pronunciation. You'd find pronunciation of most words today very different than how the same word was pronounced a century ago
Dude
They speak perfectly
There are a variety of accents around the world
They are perfectly understandable
I would have refused to talk to you too since u weren’t wearing a mask...
Wait... but people are just pronouncing the words using their own accents you know what I mean... 😟
power of $
just realized how rude you are when you judge ppl's dialect intentionally to do ads promotion
Somehow only the UK (and/or the part of the UK that you cared about) pronunciation is "correct". Please perform your "test" on streets in the US, Australia, or perhaps Scotland (still in the UK since your only care about the UK). And of course, please to the same thing across different states/regions in each of these countries/areas. I would be very interested in seeing your video, i.e., please tell them they have the "incorrect" pronunciation, and they should take your English courses to improve their English speaking skill as a native English speaker. The fact that the British guy (3:40) didn't really care about what you were about to say was clear enough that this "test" means nothing.
How about the word "answer" at 6:39 huh?
😂😂😂最后那段真的真的有料
The word ‘desert’ should be pronounced the same as ‘dessert’ if you use it as a verb.
good job
Correct, it's called nuance of the English language
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Whos the hk south African.. so humble to donate
Uhhh…what’s wrong with CandiDATE? I live in US and that’s how we pronounce it.
9:12 This guy should thank and be grateful to his parents for paying for his education in Canada instead of the Canadian government who has done nothing extra specifically for you. By the way, both pronunciations of tomato are correct, whereby one is British English while the other American. 😂😂
Ironically, the one who won seems not working in "asia wallstreet"
which means u dont need perfect english to get qualified working in the best companies, thats encouraging
We say can-di-DATE in the US
This video is another example of a UA-cam/social influencer trying to make a video seem like "entertainment" but is in fact an advert in disguise (Lingoda in this case). While the premise of this game/challenge seems very light-hearted when viewing it at a superficial level, the message it is sending to some viewers who may not be confident in English skills is quite toxic. They seem to suggest that there is only one right way to pronounce words, when in fact due to your accent (everyone has one) and also the context (verb vs noun for example), there may be multiple ways a word can be pronounced.
I never find out how entertainment it is, I'm not saying that learning English is a bad thing but obviously Torres broadcasting something which I found is pointless and nothing different than TVB look from the left and right. That's not creativity. That's what I called naive and simple.
I hope that Lingoda will sue his ass off...."This is some of our so called 'marketing individual'... who tried to harass some old gentleman, to gain provocations and views.. in order to sell your product"..... I would laugh my face off... If that English gentleman, happens to work for the British Embassy... or for the actual banks, or even a German banks..... I would really love to see their response in their local embassies !!!!....
I lived in the US before, heard only "can-di-dait" most of the time, it is not wrong pronunciation. The word cupboard is tricky and many people mispronounce it.
3:23 it's different dialect, brits pronounce women and wih-men. Northern England and possibly Scotland say wu-men but yeah it's best go by how the dictionary pronounces words.
Which country accent IPA are u guys using? because then this video tries to promote there is ONLY ONE correct way of speaking English. Which I do not think is a best way to promote English. I mean I love you guys and your contents but Idk about this.
It’s so ironic that Georgia believed in the “teacher” from Bristol but not the old man, who is from England as well. Nice logic and choice of source :)
That's the point of it because the man said that's how they pronounced WOMEN in England when he's clearly wrong but too narcissistic to admit, she had to check with another English person to confirm because she got thrown off by his insistence on the matter.
@@mooingkat9514 No she is just being nasty that's all.
Hello Katherine how are you doing?
@@ruemignon when is it ever pronounced the same as woman unless you didn't fuck it up? natives pronounce things wrong too and cant take criticism from a non native
@@hyukleberry5567 You didn't get my point. The correct pronunciation for the word 'women' is [ wim-in ], no doubt about it. That British man was a douche. His ego apparently grew too big and prevented him from admitting his mistake, just like you mentioned it.
However, when I said 'No' in my previous comment, I meant the woman who made(or co-made) this video did not have to check with another English person because she already knew the answer. She was just being nasty like a three yo yelling at the crowd trying to make a smart@ss about herself --- 'look everyone, that British dude was wrong and I am right!'. ...*puke*
you speak to be understood, it is not about perfection. Picking on small little things like that is discouraging people from trying.
well said!His video is just for fun ,a little low!
Basically nitpicking if u were to ask me lol
Depends on how u view that, it's like the science QnA held in Cambridge or whatever, ppl shouldnt be ashamed by not knowing the answer but see it as a chance to learn new stuff...
好吧,我检查了他们,但我仍然认为您是最棒的,您有一个无私的性格。
So...im a bit confused cuz like 'women' can be pronounced in both ways..? I would pronounce it the same way
Yes it can be pronounced wuoh-men or wi-min.
You know you effed up your language proficiency survey when the native speaker walks away in disgust.
9:10 It’s definitely to-mah-to 😆😆 do more street interviews! Fun and educational!!
Brits pronounce tomato as "toh mah to", and Americans pronounce it as "toh may to". Meanwhile Singaporeans pronounce it as "to meh to".
不是我挑刺儿,你们俩应该好好戴上口罩,只用塑料遮挡板是不够的。街访还是应该做足防护措施的。
好吧,我检查了他们,但我仍然认为您是最棒的,您有一个无私的性格。
Perhaps you should be more specific about which region is the pronunciation originate from ? As a Canadian the pronunciation is bit different than our cousin across the pond and down south !
That's right! I live in NFLD of Canada and I pronounce many words differently lol
@@maxhope7691 Newfy has a totally different accent than the rest of Canada. - but we managed this animal ( no more coconut tree, please)
cadid-date is American pronunciation; candid-did is British. They both should be fine.
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You know your mask is super duper ineffective... I'm concerned for you
I like them both. But I’m more concerned for other people on the street, people do not deserve this( just in case they do carry the virus). It’s kinda selfish in my opinion plus not wearing a mask doesn’t add ANY value to their video. I hope public fingers or people with so many followers can set good examples
Totally agreed here! But the guy wanna show his face and make his voice audible.... I guess the Covid situation in HK isn't as dire as N. America!!
To be honest, if I was to hire an English teacher for my department, or my team, I would pick the Canadian. Lol..... I want HIS accent ! At least it sounds soothing to my ears. I can get very agitated these days at being corrected. And doing this funny sounding thing, is not acceptable in most organisation. It is STUPID.
I totally understand why people get offended for this kinda videos, like how that British guy reacted. I found a lot of these so called English teachers don't understand some basic linguistic fact. E.g. language is descriptive. You don't get to teach people how they should pronounce a word unless they are incomprehensible. English has so many dialects. In US colloquial English it's 100% acceptable to say candida(/ei/)t and wo(/ʊ/)men. You guys are awfully ignorant honestly speaking. Pronunciation rules are alive, please learn more about it.
Ridiculous, if pronunciation is alive, everyone can change it,how can English be English?
@@seanjon3978 If you are alive and changing every second, how can you be you?
i find it is usually non-native english speakers/teachers who get hung up on such issues. i think in HK a lot them just believe there is always one correct answer because it's easier than having gray areas.
Lmao "I just want to say thank you to the Canadian government" hahaha
Face shield is not a type of face mask. Please wear face masks! Don’t you know that there is a mask order in Hong Kong?
Wait I am born in UK and lived in UK all my life in London. How they pronounced Candidate is exactly right?
1:37 BIG SHOUT OUT TO CALVIN WITH THAT NIKE X CLB HAT 🔥🇨🇦🇭🇰
- Another Hong Kong Canadian bro
I wouldn't say that the interviewers are arrogant - the whole concept of this video is quite arrogant/offensive actually. People have different accents depending on where they're from or where they've lived - I'm not sure you can authoritatively say there is only one "correct" pronunciation of a word.
If you can speak without a problem, others can trust you more... and can trust to give you more work... If you cannot even spell, or write in English, then why would any English bosses trust you ??? This makes no sense. You get judged any way.
The doctor is so charming
agree
Nyphomania is.
I am pretty sure asian'esthetics is unthinkable. 😂
@@morrispreordained9258 are u trying to discriminate asian, or u are jealous of him?
I’m pretty sure u r not open-minded enough to embrace different esthetics, as a European like u.
As a native Chinese speaker, among all the words, I feel "candidate" is the most difficult one..
Although I know the correct pronunciation, I still pronounce with the "date" sound at the back most of the time especially when speaking fast..
Don't lose sleep over it, I lived here for over 40 years and native people here still pronounce the words just like most on the video.... over thinking makes it worse for you. Being confident more important than trying to get it perfect.
I don’t think it is important how you pronounce it. Americans pronounce it with the “date”. You say it either way. It is just a word, torris is being picky about it. It won’t be a problem as long as ppl can understand you. Just say wtever lol.
With some of the English words, sometimes, the stretch point is in a different location. So when some people speak the date way... It is more like this .."can-dee-daaate". The stretch point is on the A. But the English way is more like a quick and sharp pronunciation without any stretch anywhere. "can-di-dat". You can say the "tsa" sound for the T, but no e. So, with the added e, you have to stretch the A sound. i.e. "daaate". You will find this stretch sound of the A quite often in words. This is how you will sound different to a listener.
You guys have mistakenly put the wrong form at 1:45-1:46. What she said is zaczynamy, not zacznijmy, which is the perfect variant and means we will start.
0:26 highest paid districts? Please improve your English before judging others.
最後也太好笑!!XD
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Desert pronounces the same as dessert when it's a verb. The question is not quiet fair
Aw I finally find someone wise in the comment section
You’re right, but you’ve spelt quite wrong
@@peggyluk619 she asked you to be quiet
Yup, as in deserter.
那个加拿大人读的是 cupburd吧?
哦哦 美式发音
It's definitely pronounced cupb(u)rd in the US & Canada. No question about it. They should've stated clearly that there's an R sound for North America. I mean, that's just over 60% of the English-speaking world. Lol
@@kissfarrah 啊 我在温哥华 怎么听到的是bord 不是bur
Women is pronounced as Woh-men in certain US accents, especially the Midwest and Southern accents. So the women at 0:09 definitely pronounced the word according to the American English accent.
Nice video but How can 50hkd = 7usd ???
What’s the point of this video? 1.Embarrassing hk professionals?
2. There ain’t ‘standard English’ according to Kachru Model. There r varieties and ppl in diff countries hv may hv their own ways of pronouncing. the same word.
I had already told you, Torres wasn't studied in overseas before and he thought he really understand English that much without even noticing the problem of what country does any people speak. So if he really think don't be afraid of making mistake, then why did he censor his own video regarding his life habit on 100K living in a hotel room? What did he scare for? I did not forget that.
Torres remember to put on a mask despite the face shield. The latter hardly works alone:) Stay safe and creative!
Which bit do you find him creative?!
You have to remember that US English and European English is pretty different. 美國唔係大晒架. Also as mentioned by some comments, hey're not failing "basic English", it's just that the accent is different to yours. There's no one correct English accent. Think of all the accents/dialects in Chinese, each has their own 特色 and they aren't "wrong".
The ending is AWESOME😂👊!!!
请教下,点解100蚊港纸读噶系dollar,dollar唔系特指美元吗?
Torres, if this game is based on the pronunciation in the Cambridge dictionary, then I think your opening question should be "Can Hong Kong people say the basic words in British English ". I mean, to be honest, take the word "candidate" from your game as an example, both candi-date and candi-did are acceptable...still, not trolling here and love your show.
Both of the pronunciations for “candidate” are correct actually, according to Oxford Advanced Learners’ DIct.
Even the Cambridge dictionary has both
I’m not going to even comment on every single word on this list. For the first word “candidate”, according to at least Oxford dictionary, it can be pronounced either /ˈkændɪdət/ or /ˈkændɪdeɪt/. Stop imposing your own version of pronunciations on other people, thinking that you’re only one who’s correct.
Thank you. Americans pronounce Candidate the same way they were. This man is obviously only know British English and knows nothing about other English dialects and accents and arrogantly assumes British English is correct English and all other English are incorrect.
The word cupboard too! A few of them pronounce it right!
其實都唔知有啲乜嘢好比較,英美澳加人啲英文發音各有不同,大家都有各自嘅發音風格,你憑乜嘢話人哋講錯?即係好似我認識啲澳洲人 " what are you doing to die (today)" 我又唔會笑佢哋發音法歪咗, 又或者有啲人將often講咗 "offen" 我又唔會批評佢係咪講得啱。又或者啲愛爾蘭人問你" what are you trying to see (say), 咁你會點樣回應對方?