How Bad Is The Wind Turbine Trash Problem? And Can We Solve It? | World Wide Waste
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- Опубліковано 8 тра 2024
- Conventional recycling techniques don't work on wind turbine blades. In a prior episode, we looked at a company shredding the giant blades to fuel cement production. Now, an Ohio startup called Canvus slices them into segments and turns them into benches and planters.
Watch our previous episode on wind turbine blades:
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Learn more about Canvus:
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00:00 - Intro
00:56 - The Wind Turbine Waste Problem
01:56 - Slicing Giant Blades Smaller
02:41 - Prepping The Blade's Surface
03:19 - Turning A Blade Slice Into a Bench
05:55 - Effects Of Repowering Wind Farms
06:32 - Delivering The Products
07:32 - Artist Painting Program
08:10 - What Typically Happens To Blade Waste?
08:46 - How Much Can Upcycling Help?
09:35 - Burning Blades At Cement Factories
10:10 - The Future of Blade Waste
11:22 - Comparing Blade Waste To Other Energy Waste
12:23 - Credits
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You asked "want to see more of this trash?" and published several shitty Sponsored videos on the war with Ukrain😂😂😂. Turns out you are so greedy...not subsribed any more
12:10 "If you throw enough money at problems then you can solve those problems"
hands down best quote
* angry USSR noise *
no, idgit.
It's how we've solved basically every difficult problem in modern history
BUT it still results in another set of problems that have to be solved. This company had a creative answer but how many benches do we need. How many birds and whales need to be killed how many farmer field have to be disrupted and I. Some cases destroyed? Maybe use these things for homeless housing or ports potties. This is an answer but is it good enough? The green new deal has its problems too. Lastly if they are being burned, how much CO2 is being released? Waste behind !! All of it does. So some people need to watch their high pedestal.
This strategy has not been going that well for governments.
As someone who has worked with fiberglass, that has to be worse than plastic waste for underwater life or any life, for that matter.
There are now recyclable resins that can be broken down once the blade has been deemed end-of-life. The solid materials can be reused in smaller products, and it only leaves the resin as waste
Do you have a source for this? I’d like to look into it.
@edwardliechti3359 Unfortunately not. I suppose I am the source as I make wind turbine blades and made the world's first commercial recyclable blade at Siemens Gamesa.
It wasn't a large order, but I've heard that a larger one is in the works.
@@ronanboulton2965 How do those decompose only after the usual life cycle of a blade? Planned obsolescence?
@CTimmerman They usually last for roughly 20 years, so barring any major failures, I would imagine it would be around that long before they are broken down using a chemical. I'm not sure what it is, but it allows the solid materials to be reused.
I'm not in the loop on all the life cycle and servicing side of the turbines, just production.
@@ronanboulton2965 Keep up the good work, mate! Appreciate efforts like this more than you know.
The last image really puts things into perspective. We need these people to work on coal ash and household trash as well.
Coal ash may also be recycled into products like concrete or wallboard
@@ClydsdaleVI Coal ash also contains more energy in the form of radioactive thorium than was gained by burning the coal.
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Does the thorium currently have commercial use? The reactors never seem to work
@@32BitJunkie Nuclear reactors appear to take a lot of time to develop. Despite thorium having been used in a test reactor at ORNL and in Soviet submarines iirc, and many countries having thorium reactors in development, only India seems to have a working test reactor at the moment according to Wikipedia:
KAMINI (Kalpakkam Mini reactor), is the world's only thorium-based experimental reactor. It produces 40MW of thermal energy at full power.[76] KAMINI is cooled and moderated by light water, and fueled with uranium-233 metal produced by the thorium fuel cycle harnessed by the neighboring FBTR reactor.
Holy cow...I just don't see how this is practical. I love good, legitimate recycling, but the amount of effort described to find a use for these things makes it too expensive to be practical. I was not surprised to hear that they're not making a profit. More power to them if they can put effort into something and be proud of it, but it doesn't strike me as a fabulous solution.
It's just an exercise of image, those things are totally useless and even impractical, require a lot of work and the addition of even more non recyclable materials and some metal and after a few years when those things have to be ditched somewhere they will be a bigger problem than the blades.
This is the epitome of a solution looking for a problem! The solution however, is the Rube Goldberg of fabrication that only works through subsidy
@@orionbetelgeuse1937Exactly!! Seems to me the best solution to this problem is the grinding and conversion to fuel for concrete plants as it generates less CO2 than the coal that would topically be used. Also, no mention is made of the necessary foundations for windmills that are poured out of thousands of tons of concrete and steel rebar and that go many feet into the earth. The net zero emissions equation from the windmill generation of electricity is many, many years into the future, if ever. Of course, that is never talked about by the so called “green energy” zealots. This is the perfect example of central planning, special interests and the federal government picking winners and losers, all subsidized on the backs of taxpayers and ratepayers.
$42,000 for a few benches. Very cost effective
It ISN'T practical. It takes more energy to make these stupid eyesores than they will EVER produce in operation. We've known this for years, and since GOVERNMENT will subsidize these anyhow, they show up anyhow. Engineering doesn't matter.
Still a fan of nuclear. The waste has far less volume from my understanding. Plus it's capable of being used like a battery so it can be used in thousands of more ways than other forms of energy.
Not the PLANT, which is what the blades are. Very few nuclear gen site are ever remediated fully at end of life, they just get made less dangerous by removing the core, and fenced off indefinitely ? Only gas plants gen to my understanding get "almost fully removed" and even then the land is contaminated, and has limited use.
They are simply not financially viable. It is the most expensive form of bulk energy available. Plus nobody wants these things in their area making it a difficult proposition anyway.
@@rogerk6180mma
@@rogerk6180 your opinion aside, you're not wrong. But the technology isn't stagnant. It can evolve and become more viable. I'm not saying we need to abandon other forms of green energy either. I just think nuclear has a crazy amount of potential.
@@jessechristensen1074 it is not just my opinion, lots of NIMBYism involved with nuclear even with people who are proponents of it.
Nuclear made sense 20 years ago, that is when investment had to be made into it. Now it is simply to late.
Who is going to invest into this technology? It's only viable if it is done with public money for national security purposes and only people building these things and selling the fuel are pretending it still has a future. No energy company is going to burn their fingers with it unless governments guarantee they will subsedise the whole shebang for the lifetime of the thing making it a risk free milk cow for decades for them.
And when you concider the massive exponential advances in cost and efficienty that have been made over the last 25 years in green technology, imagine what the market looks like even a decade into the future, let alone another 25 years.
Pv and storage will be omnipresent everywhere soon and will be generating electricity for fractions of pennies. No centralised solution that needs lots of management, infrastructure, highly educated and payed people babying it 24/7, security and especially a constant feed of expensive resources to run it is ever going to be able to ever compete with it again.
Not to mention the fact that people and businesses now are able and are choosing to just generate all or most of what they need themselves for free instead paying some massive subsedised corperation pumping it into your house every month.
There will be nobody willing to buy that extremely expensive electricity constantly comming out of a nuke by the time these things are permitted and build 15 years from now.
It is 20th century technology. The ones running are still useful to aid during the transition but nobody is going to build billion dollar paperweights anymore.
There's thousands of blades in Elsworth Iowa just stacking up along interstate 35.
Finally! A real and practical use for Iowa.
Iowa is empty af at leasr it has a use.
So there are a lot of things that these blades could be used for. The ends that attach to the windmill could be garden rings, no need to do anything, other then cut them down. What about roofing or siding material. I would love to have a bunch of the thin end pieces and make a fence out of them around my property.. They could also be used for livestock shelters.
Roofing and house walls, now there's an idea! Fiberglass is strong af and if it's already built then it's cheap. Hope people don't mind curvy bulgy houses though
Yet none of those uses are useful. It's just mimicking virtue by reusing (not recycling becuse recycling means reusing a material again for the same purpose) some useless material to make useless benches which contain even more non recyclable plastic and some metal and a lot of work. At the end of life of those benches they will be an even bigger problem. And those images with smoke coming out of the chimney are fake, in the last 30-40 years in the western world all the power plants have particle filters and there is nothing coming out of the chimney except some hot gases containing CO2 but no smoke.
Yeah fiberglass is soo good for your lungs 🤣😆🤣😆 you fking 🤡 wehat do you think why old roofing materials got banned??? For the same reason fibrous materials blow in the wind when the roofing material got old. Now you want old decaying blades cut up even more to be used as roofing again???
Well. That start-up company just turned a hard to recycle thing into an even harder to recycle thing, by pouring more hatd to recycle composite materials all over it. At least when looking at that public bench thing at the start.
The other things make more sense.
But the most important part of the video are the two pictures at the end, which provide context and perspective, which lots if people don't have.
Reuse is another form of recycling.
@@yayinternets you are only prolonging the inevitable, the trash dump
@@philphil5066 Yes, but almost every single thing we produce on this planet qualifies for that statement.
Plant them in the ground vertically side-by-side and create a solid weather resistant fence.
It degrades into the environment tainting the water supply in the local area.
I heard birds get caught in them too
@boohere2 That's when they are moving, and the birds do not see the blades. Although I do not think the idea is not particularly good, a fence of blades would be no more dangerous to birds than a brick wall or wooden fence.
@@boohere2 Yes, I was thinking of the birds too. Nobody seems to care. That makes me mad.
I worked at a fiberglass plastic manufacturing plant for 4 years. This video made me itchy.
🤔🫨🫨🫨🤣
These benches look SICK though! I would absolutely love to see these pop up in cities all across the US
Looking at the covered benches, the first use I thought of was as covered benches for rural and small town bus stops. Someone should call Pete and find out if they can get a DOT grant for a pilot project for that.
As soon as i saw Business insider ..I knew this was PR to cover for Wind Farms and Renewables
Did you see the huge labor cost there is to make those recycled benches ...they will have the charge 20k per bench to break even.
Lol
Hey, if your attention span isn't enough for the whole video the only important part is 11:29 to 11:55.
Or in writing: Just toss all the Turbine blades in a Landfill or burn them for energy, it still is a low waste energy source. The waste it does produce just looks a bit more spectacular.
Benches are just a small part of the waste solution. Benches *are* a source of local jobs, so not a bad choice.
That’s why it’s important to map the entire lifecycle including design and disposal, before producing the product! From my perspective that could have prevented this huge amount of waste…
This will happen in some years when all of the Lithium batteries of EV become useless and no one made a plan of how to dispose of them effectively
They done all that, it still made sense to continue
"Our Company has made NO profits this year...We see a BRIGHT future"...LULZ
@@kyleklmondwa9042 I'm guessing you never studied business
@@Ms666slayer lithium batteries are recyclable and are getting reused and recycled.
Every year the auto industry contributes over 11 million cars to the 7-8000 junkyards in the US alone, and yeah windmills are a problem!
THE PROBLEM HERE WHICH NOBODY PAYS ANY ATTENTION TO is - that the wind turbines require MORE energy to manufacture and build than they produce over their ENTIRE LIFETIME. If they DIDN'T, they would produce electricity more cheaply than conventional power plants. These things are a COMPLETE waste of money, and resources to make.
This may change in the FUTURE, but CURRENTLY, these consume MORE conventional energy as a result of them ever being built.
This is OBVIOUS, but since we now have a centralized energy policy where taxmoney is spent to make these eyesores and wastes of energy and resources, it's not going to stop any time soon. NOBODY wants to listen to engineers or economists.
Cars and all material in them can be recycled. Steel, aluminum, plastic, glass, rubber. Apparently you missed that part.
you ever been to a junkyard? those cars get absolutely picked clean of ANY usable parts and then they get recycled. Cars are literally one of the most recyclable mass produced item out there.
Many times the program showed folks cutting these blades with little to no regard for the dust pollution. These tiny airborne particles are not safe for anyone/thing to inhale.
I heard those "eco" food trash bags break down into millions of tiny particles that end up inside our bodies . We buy billions of goods from China and have to dispose of huge amounts of packing like the white styrofoam . I bought some paint and was surprised to see the 'cans' are now plastic not metal . The empty ones are in the garbage . The 'eco' charade is nothing more than a money grab.
These look like great wall building material for at the border. Stand them up side by side with overlap and reinforce them. 2 problems solved!
lol amazing
I'm not a border wall lover, but I like your idea.
visually imposing, but easy to cut through. maybe fill them with concrete too.
Call Trump, he might like your idea.
Racist and dumb, a classic combo!
How bad is the fiberglass boat problem, and can we solve it? There are far more fiberglass boats around than wind turbine blades; are the boat hulls getting recycled?
Great intiative ! Wind energy is not a non flipside solution indeed. At least you don't have to store them in a secured location for a few hundred thousand years. With upcycling solutions like these it's even more advantageous..
Just reading the title I thought this was going to be another one of those unfounded hit pieces, usually paid for by oil or coal companies who are seeing declining business because of these new and better forms of providing energy. I was very glad to see the comparison of waste from different energy types, that showed the turbine blade problem is no where near the problem some make it out to be.
Thankyou Insider a wonderful video in content and production, a great watch. 😊
Seeing all these solutions shows me there was never really a waste problem, it's just that companies and people did not care enough to reuse materials. Now that's finally changing
This is so cool and informative.
Eugh, fibreglass. We had a sheet of that in my backyard which was old roofing for the carport. It bowed and we had to replace it. Just moving the sheet to the ground made all this fibreglass particles float in the air and settle on the ground. I only passed through the area for less than a minute after I thought it had settled and had intense pain in my lungs from breathing it in which took a few weeks to go away completely as I avoided going in my backyard. Wouldn't want to work/be around that stuff.
EDIT: We genuinely did not know it was fibreglass at the time, thought it was a sheet of thick plastic as it was quite old and had dirt on it, and only found out after researching why I had trouble breathing. I was not the person renovating, and I only came out to look at it on the ground and was outside for less than a minute. This comment was to highlight how unpleasant fibreglass can be to human health, wasn't looking for people to be calling me careless.
That's why you need a gas mask if you're going to cut, damage or shred the stuff. The lung damage can be permanent
A sensible person would have worn a respirator, goggles, and heavy gloves for a job like that. You can’t blame the material for your carelessness.
I’ve driven through the parts of Texas with tens of thousands of wind turbines, and have seen a turbine blade landfill.
I don’t know if this is a valid opinion or not, but considering the unfathomable amounts of unused land in just Texas alone, the turbine blade landfill that I saw was very small and seemingly unimportant in comparison to the millions of unused acres all throughout that part of the state.
How many signs have you seen calling for a border wall in that same neighborhood?
True. Plus I bet the blades are pretty inert once in the ground. I would still love to have a wind turbine bench on my deck. I'll have to find a wind turbine landfill around me.
I’m not a health expert, but isn’t fibreglass fundamentally the same as asbestos? - Silica fibres, so wouldn’t it have the same negative health effects? - not an expert but I don’t think you should interact with anything that sheds silica fibres when it degrades/gets used
Use pyrolysis to turn the wood, plastic and fiberglass resin into a mixture of carbon monoxide, methane, hydrogen gas, and carbon dioxide. That only leaves the glass fibers as waste.
It's much more doable for wind turbine blades than for municipal garbage due to the input material being far more controlled and knowing what's in the blades.
Crush it and add to concrete as fiiller? 🤔
That was the first thing these where used for.
💨🔄 It's crucial to address environmental issues like these for a sustainable future. 🌍🌱
How about repurposing the blades to serve as perimeter walls, barriers, barricades, etc?
Can't it degrades into tiny micro particles that get into the environment, they didn't care about anything but money when they made these things.
And make Mexico pay for it?
Hi BI team, if a wind turbine maker made a mistake in analysing the product lifecycle of wind turbine blades, the same mistake was carried out by the furniture maker. I mean, once the furniture is made, how it will be recycled ?
Looks like they coukd be used to build prefabricated homes or campers. Maybe boats also.
It's much cheaper to build new boats and campers out if fiberglass than trying to make one out of a turbine. I reckon the turbine boat would cost 5x more for the same size, but less in quaility.
You can't reshape a fibergalss that are completed how would you make a boat shape????
@@maszkalman3676 Use the existing shape & add to it.
@@michaelbrinks8089 Yeah that would make the ships interior completely unaccessible and if you you cut out all the interior bits the glass fibers wil fly everywhere but likely into the sea or waterways and inside your lungs not a very pleasant way to get lung cancer. Also how would you secure it? It would needs bolts?? that would make it less water resistant no matter how good the glue or caulking material you use, taht's why they called monohulls they are made from a single parts so no palce for the water to go in.
@@maszkalman3676 lol Someone who's stupid could never make it work. But someone with half a brain could use sections of the blades to build a boat, camper or tiny house.Just like someone with half a brain can cut the end of a fiberglass 🛶 canoe off . Then cut a board to fit in place, seal it up so they can mount a trolling motor or small engine to it. Or repair a damaged fiberglass boat with fiberglass.
How many public seating is needed or would this style be appropriate? Not many.
It doesn't look wide or comfy enough for homeless to sleep on, so it should be quite popular.
With a bit of creativity this can be turned into just about anything.
There are 8 billion people. Maybe everyone needs one. Then there is overwhelming demand.
Let's take a look at coal ash ponds leaching into water tables and then when they fail and pour in to lakes.
This story lack so many of the new discoveries and inventions that I am amazed this was allowed to be uploaded. Siemens Gamesa can put their blades in some sort of substance and it can use their materials again for the next blade. This story shows why we need good journalists in the world who knows how to do research.
could use as temporary shade, and dew capture for desert planted trees, and once a deep enough tap root is grown, we move the blades to the next near spot and plant the next year of trees.
What people dont understand is repurposing solves nothing. Everything that is repurposed will eventually make it to the land fill. The only difference is someone has figured out a way to monitize trash.
It saves the resources that would have been used to make the public seating otherwise..
If they did not do this both the blades and the seating made from raw materials would end up in landfill at the end of the seatings life..
So it still saves half the resources and waste..
By the time these upcrcled items reach refuse sites, hopefully someone will have figured out how to properly recycle the materials.
This furniture will probably last AT LEAST 20-30yrs if properly maintained....and in THAT FAR IN THE FUTURE im sure there will a better way if we ALL haven't been wiped out by some insane earth ending event inthe meantime.
ID LOVE to have some these in my backyard!!!!
@@DurgaUsagi 20-30 years far into the future lol. Nothings changing
You’re increasing the service life. Repurposing means they replace something else that would also become trash. Sure, the blades eventually still become trash. But, if you make them into a bench first then you’re still only getting the blade as trash instead of the blade and a bench.
The trash has already been made. But, might as well use it for as long as possible.
Grind em up into fine pieces and use em with cement. You will get good concrete from the blades
Raised garden beds would be a MASSIVE business oppurtunity.
Wow..!!! That is a incredible machine😮❤
Wow, didn't know this was a problem. I'm in SW Ohio but had not heard of this company
I didnt realize there were situations where people were just burying these things? That just seems insane to me. Sure you might not know what to do with it but it's still a resource to someone
Every energy production method is going to have a waste... the question is which ones are the most wasteful? People like to hate on wind turbines but turn a blind eye to fossil fuels basically ruining our atmosphere.
Not even close. The same fume that's been on the planet since forever
@@GojosBackHand yes.
But its ruining the atmosphere😅
No, no, no, no, no...people don't hate on wind while ignoring fossil fuels. It's the other way around. The scum bags that shit on oil and push hard for green energy that "doesn't pollute" are the ones that ignore stories like in this video about the massive amount of waste produce from the "green" energy. It's the same with solar panels, they don't last long, and have to be dealt with when they become trash but the anti-oil people never want to talk about that.
I really wish people would give tiidal more of a chance
You do know that there is like 2000 pounds of grease and lubricant in each wind turbine?? The chemicals for EV's are stripped mined and guess what they use Fossil Fuel trucks to haul it for processing. And then more fossil fuels to process it. There is no such thing as clean energy.
I thought this video might be more than just a unicorns and fairies puff piece of virtue signalling.
A few park benches and such don’t come anywhere near a solution to the pollution caused by used E waste.
Being cut into planks to make fencing and retaining walls or even roof tiles with the leftover material being shredded to make fibre filler for concrete would actually be more of a solution.
No vandalism! Great idea!
Share this recycling technology here in West Africa.
I could train and employ entire cities.
I believe in recycling /upcycling all household waste instead of further ruining our precious natural resources.
Seems easy enough. All you need is some creativity and an engineer.
I’m sure you could make composit decking boards. Or even bricks. There is a company that makes bricks from tires that are used for parks. They could build bricks from this too and use it to build houses for homeless or for landscaping.
Aerodynamic motorcycle trailers would be a cool idea to use these blades for.
Watching your doc. What about using for outdoor baths or even indoor baths. Barbara
So rather than disgusting blade waste we should just stick with nuke waste, and depleted uranium.
Real smart way to come up with alternative energy.
would be nice if someone would figure out really good air filters, so you can just burn turbine blades and other non-recyclable plastics in thermal power plants, unless we have that already?
Is it possible that the ground up blaeds be yoused in roads or building materials
Currently, adding this macerated fiberglass material to concrete is the best solution. It can reduce the amount of concrete needed, and therefore energy, in many of the world concrete projects as it dramatically increases the strength and durability of concrete.
Although your cell phone may be small, there will be billions more of those in the trash in the next decade, never mind condoms, packaging for food, electronics, and hair products. So, the truth is, discarded old turbine blades will NEVER be a significant problem.
the dark side of ESG - you get no energy when the wind is not blowing, people will rapidly realise there are only that many park benches you need
I might have a solution for those blades. Anyway I can get one to play with?
Also, what about a different type of mechanism altogether?
Finding solutions for stupid problems is what life is all about.
Better longer lasting designs
Recyclable materials
That might help 😊
3:36 if they ever start making futuristic furniture with it, hit me up. I would love to buy a futuristic shelf made from a wind turbine blade.
Seems like they could be cut up for tiles or roofing materials, you could bolt pieces together to make quansit huts.
On Engineering With Rosie, she does an interesting breakdown of the scale of the problem. On a per person basis, we discard far more composite materials waste from things like boats and campers, than we ever will from decommissioned wind turbine blades. If we brought all of the composites together from sources other than wind turbine blades, they would make for much more shocking photos than the odd photo of turbine blades
And when compared to other materials that we send to land-fills, these materials are quite benign. They don't leach into ground-water, and don't emit harmful fumes or CO2 as they degrade.
Unfortunately, recycling is only part of the problem. Wind farms historically have consumed more resources and energy to build, maintain, decommission and recycle than they have produced. This is an inconvenient reality that needs to be addressed
@@ScoocumAF The LCOE of wind is lower than ALL other sources. Where do you get your data?
They're made out of glue and fiberglass. When they erode, they do leech those materials. Especially the glue is scary because it causes so many scary ailments in all living nature.
@@Habib_Osman Can you tell me where that has happened and the damage that was caused?
@@1964mcqueen Chemical products are super complicated. So.. anybody giving you any short answer is lying.
Search emissions analytics - What's in a tyre? For an epic breakdown of the mind numbing amount of different chemical compounds in tyres. Sure, tyres are not windmills.. but, I suspect the exact makeup of windmill blades might be just as convoluted. So.. I'm not a chemist, but I do know simple answers in the chemical industry are lies.
I wonder if these can be cut down to make shingles for roofing, tile etc.
Compare it to the radioactive waste trash from nuke plants that we still do not have a solution to after half a century.
but he energy you can take out of it is imense, it takes hundres if not thousands of wind towers to compare. And it can now be reused to produce more energy and the rest of the radioactive material csn be buried above the ground for thousands of years. Nuclear waste is not a problem anymore.
Best of luck to the guys at Canvus! I hope they hit that 3000 mark.
Up cycling is ambitious but the numbers don’t add up. If down cycling into fuel for cement kiln is possible, then there should be a concerted effort towards this end. The number of cement kilns are big around the world.
Fibreglass resin is totally made from oil. you need energy to melt glass. and the inefficiency of converting oil to resin to blades is what? Then the energy to reuse what is that? this is no better than just sticking with the base product oil and making energy. the processes along the way are insane energy consumption at each point.
Nope. These turbines generate multiple times the energy they consume to produce and decomission.
Can you buy old blades that are going into the landfill? Which website can I go to?
I'd give this company a call. I'm sure they can assist you.
Can't we melt all of that steel down and make oil rigs with it?
Hope these can be made to surfing boards!!! Too pricy here in nz
I like NZ's priorities.
Coal ash can also be recycled into products like concrete or wallboard.
True, but it has the dirty word in it, "coal" which isn't approved by "green energy" leftists.
And LFTR fuel as it's radioactive and contains more energy than the coal released.
Radioactive walls, just what i wanted
This whole industry is crazy. How much money does it cost to build, maintain, and recycle one of these after its life is over compared to how much money each fan creates in its life. I can’t imagine these create a great profit.
could be used for raised garden
Seeing the design of the 'furniture' was as disappointing as finding out in the other vid that the turbines are used as a fuel source in order for 'use' in making cement/concrete
Maybe they could be used towards the border wall.
I don't know why wind turbines are singled out here, it really comes down to using composites. All Boeing, Airbus and Embraer aircraft , any aircraft are being made almost entirely of composite materials. Boats, cars, you name it, composites are being used and they all have the same issues. What really needs to happen is that a product should not be brought to market if it can not be broken down into it's basic elements, true recycling.
Boats, campervans and car parts etc are also made from composites. Nobody seems to care about that.
Yep, the list is long. @@rogerk6180
A reupload.. It's a Disposable economy problem not a just wind turbine one.
The waste from crude oil is Much worse and isn't just harmless turning into rock in a landfill
Who say sustainable energy never leave waste
You can never find enough places to put little benches, to use up all those blades.
Time to build the ultimate metal muncher!!! 😂
There was a wind energy project proposed in my area. Environmental impact reports determined that given the trees that would be cut down for the transmission lines, the concrete used on the project, and the transportation of the materials to the site, the windmills would never become carbon neutral. We are selling ourselves another lie here.
The resins to produce the blades are petroleum based. So how is this helping the environment?
And they are not burned. Not releasing the co2 within it.
Yet another solution to a problem that should not exist in the first place.
Not seeing a high demand for the art furniture only so many parks recreation with to much supply..
They have started recycling them which is great. Green energy has not been innovated to it's fullest, that is what is so great about an emerging energy sector.
The wing is the fillet. The slices are steaks.
Id read a story that during the winter months, at a wind turbine farn...IT USED 5,000 litres of chopper fuel to fly around these turbines and de-ice them... green energy... IS IT WORTH THE COST
That is not true, the Facebook post you read was a picture from Sweden of a Helicopter spraying hot water on turbine blades. Many turbines have their own built in de-ickng systems.
Australian sustainability publication Renew Economy calculated that a wind turbine can pay back the helicopter fossil fuel emissions used to de-ice a turbine with 22 minutes of strong wind.
The whole blade "controversy" is made up - all generators, of any kind, have a limited life, and some parts of the plant are hard to recycle - but no one used to care so hysterically for some mysterious reason ? there is a coal power plant no more than 2km from my house that was never successful decommissioned and is now a massive waste site in the middle of VERY expensive real estate. Good to see that wind has BETTER prospects than older forms of generation for end of life processing :)
Just how things go. New things are scary and must be resisted by any means possible for some reason.
No, it’s not “made up.” These issues have been with us since the Industrial Revolution. Entirely new industries have been created to deal with them, some effective and profitable and some not. The difference is that the self-righteous environmentalists have chosen to polarize the discussion into binary “either / or” solutions that are at best naive or at worst criminally misleading. Nobody talks about the benefits that have accrued to society from all forms of energy. Humans generally live longer, happier lives than at any time in human history. Without energy, we’d still be living in mud huts. Think about that as you type and watch these shallow videos on your device.
Any manufacturere even of hand made goods will have left overs or discards. So guys, be conscious that there’s only. So muuch space on planet earth. Repurpose if regualtions allow.
1:40 Going beyond traditional recycling.
2:39 like recycling the water, etc.
Thank you. There’s no way avenue for reusing materials we just have to be willing to do it, and regulations should concentrate on healthy choices not uniformity of choices.
Putting it in landsfills, definetly not a bright way to use otherwise good ressources. I liked a lot of the here shown solutions though, even if only increase their lifespan till we then maybe have a solution to extract the base ressoruces again. I am not so sure about the cement usage, as isn't that just creating concrete that is even worse to recycle down the line?
Just use energy from waves
But when there's no wind, there is no wave. It's in the same category as solar & wind.
@@DecrepitBiden There's still the moon moving it.
@@CTimmerman Tidal power and wave power are different.
@@HSFY2012 Yes, but the moon causes both.
They also need some sort of machine to capture that energy which in the end will also have a limited lifespan.
It is just part of energy generation.
Wind turbine: 30 years, 11,550 lb per blade
People in the US: 30 years, 54,000 lb per capita
If the blades aren't worth it,
The cleanest form of generating power is with nuclear fusion. Unfortunately the work "nuclear" scares the public. A good rebranding needs to happen to make it popular again.
What about the concrete anchors?
Looks a lot more expensive than just having the county buy a regular bench. But hey, it's the "sustainability" grift.
Maybe we should use them as a border wall seems like we have a lot of them
In the late 1970s, I lived in a 'green' house in Vermont. We had TWO windmills in the yard. They did not work. Ever since then I have been anti-windmill. Windmills are decoy devices intended to funnel money, from both taxpayers and ratepayers, to the environmentalists and their financial backers. Over the course of their lifetimes, windmills produce very small amounts of electricity at very high cost and extremely low efficiency, along with great damage to the environment (killing birds, occupying large amounts of land, interrupting the natural flow of the winds, high resource consumption per kilowatt produced (copper, steel, concrete, composite, etc.), and big waste problem (as the video shows).
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$42,000 for 2 benches, 2 seats and a table?!!! 😮
"We made eight dollars this year" to laughter is a great quote. We're lucky that some free funding is available.
Their first year. They will be profitable next year. Very few upstarts manage that.
Build spa tubs! Id buy one :)