I only recently found you guys and have loved the video's so far...you are down to earth and funny funny funny...in a modest way...thanks for the real reviews as I'm only just now deciding what kind of toilet to put in my van. All good info to consider...travel safe and see you in the next video.
Dear Finnish friends, how wonderful it is to follow your channel. Finally a couple who dares to say how life is in a Van, the good and lesser moments, winter and summer, and also the adjustments to improve comfort in a motorhome purchased from the factory. You never see that, usually you have built it yourself at home and you can never make a comparison with, for example, this bought and finished Adria. I have been giving a lot of money to other fluids but the only good working is indeed the BLUE AquaKem. My conclusion after many years of experience and testing a lot of brands, sometimes only available outside my country. - The best solution for Thetford toilets without odors and fast breakdown of faeces is: Install allways the SOG for the odors and use the BLUE AquaKem for dissolving rapidly the faeces. - Many will now say, the Blue Kem is not septic tank friendly, and that's true. But any other friendly solution of liquid (Green,...) makes your toilet 'stinks' or smells for days and weeks. - Composting toilets are excellent but they are made for men and not woman friendly, who have a real problem with there period every month, so it's a no go as a couple. Very informative video for newbies and so true.
I may have solution for the pee splash thing: There are these larger size (19mm) Gardena so called STOP hose couplers/fittings which have a valve in them. The valve close when you seperate the two coupler halves automatically. You can attach the cut of piece (hopefully you kept it somewhere) of the supplied hose to the tank and the valved part of the coupler and install the other half of the coupler to the remaining hose going to the fan. The valve is water tight and as such you can shake the tank all you want without fear of being stink splashed upon...
Been using Lidl Formil bio washing liquid for the last couple of years, it's ok for septic tanks, not as good as the thetford stuff but very cheap, would be interesting to see how it works when combined with the sog. Great channel, thankyou.
Hi Guys! Thanks for this! You guys are awesome we love your van! Please could you do an update on the SOG toilet system? Super curious how you are finding it a year later?
Ahh, a shave and a haircut. Nice. Spring? Still looks like winter outside. When does spring start over there? In the states, its March 21st. I can't wait. It's been raining non stop for over a week. Very dreary. Glad to see your doing well.
I am looking to buy a similar campervan, but I want to have a composting toilet installed in place of the cassette toilet. In the cassette compartment, i will add a water heater for my recirculating shower. Or, if the water heater already has a space in the van, perhaps the cassette space is large enough for the shower‘s water tank. Thoughts? 🇫🇮🚚
You look so young without the beard! The wife also looks lovely today. You can get a macerator on your next van . Toilet talk can be very controversial. Good to see your point of view.
I use a porta potty (a mobile version of the Thetford brand toilets) I use it only for the number one procedures. Number two I try to do in toilets which I visit at gas stations and restaurants. If I need to go number two and a regular toilet isn't around I us the bowl of the porta potty to place a plastic baggy in filled with some sawdust. I do business in the baggy an thigh a knot in it to close it. I store the bag(s) in a small bucket with a lid hanging from the chassis of the van and when I find it I throw the bag(s) away in a dumpster or larger container. I do this very few times since I plan my shit rather well... pardon my french... but emergencies do occur as we all know... Back to the pee story: The porta potty system uses an upper and a lower tank and a hand pump to transfer clean water from the upper tank through the bowl and drains into the lower tank for storage. Mine is about 15 L and lasts me a week only using it for number 1. I use plain water in the upper tank with a little bit of a liquid sold in aquarium places called aquarium filter starter, which is a mixture of harmless but very helpful bacteria which break down ammonia (the chemical in pee which causes the nasty smell) I use a very small 3 watt air bubbler (from a even smaller aquarium which runs only for 20 minutes after the toilet has been used and also switches on when I start my van's engine) The bubbler aerates the waste water in the lower tank to help the bacteria break down the ammonia added to the waste water during peeing. The bacteria need ammonia to eat and oxygen to breath. The ammonia smell has no time to develop inside the waste tank because the bacteria are very fast in doing there job. The ammonia is converted into nitrite and eventually into nitrate which are both odorless. Nitrates are harmless to flush into nature since it is a naturally occurring fertilizer. So basically I can (and at times I do) empty the lower tank in the forest (obviously away from any nearby streams or wells. Basically I am watering and fertilizing plants in the vicinity... For those skeptical: look up on google: Nitrification Cycle and Nitrifying Bacteria... Both are common names in the aquarium/fishtank world, are present in nature and both are very well documented as being a safe, clean and environmentally responsible way to deal with ammonia laden water...
:-) "emptying it somewhere else"...have a nice weekend :-), it's a good idea, but i couldn't do my own, was already happy that my water pumps worked again after the first owner made a total mess in electrical system...you are technician, totally different thing if YOU do it yourself...so I probably stay at SOG Klappspaten solution...:-)))))))) (okay no good idea downtown Helsinki)
I'm thinking about using one of these, but it must smell absolutely revolting when you're emptying it? The beauty of the chemical toilets is the chemicals stop it from smelling whilst you pour the contents out
We have now used the SOG fan for years. We dont think it smells revolting, or maybe we have just get used to the smell hahah? We empty our toilet approx two times a week. We still use the toilet chemical if we cannot empy our toilet for weeks, because we are scared it will stink horrible if it sits there for too long time.
I think you can email the company that developed that SOG system or post to their forum online any questions you might have. I'm sure they will answer all the questions you have. There's no need to guess or assume anything.
The blue stuff will (as far as I know) kill a septic tank, though, so you need to be careful about where you dump it. However, I've heard good things about Elsan green/organic toilet fluid, but not sure if you can get those in Finland, it may be a UK only thing. But people seem to think it works quite well to control odor, and you can use it both as flushing fluid and tank treatment. One chemical to rule them all? Personally I'm getting a composting toilet when I get my van. I know they import the Nature's Head to Europe at least, but I'd prefer the Airhead. Gotta empty pee every few days, but you only have to empty the solids once every few weeks. I wouldn't personally stop using fluids in the toilet just because you have a fan now though. The fluids do help break down the solids too (a little) so it's easier to empty and doesn't stink as much.
Your right, all septic tank dumps ask you not to use blue loo chemical as it kills the enzymes that break down the toilet waste. The pink and the green additives are friendlier, but don't work so well in breaking down the waste and the poo smell is not masked regardless of how much you put in.
@@ukbusman Yep, the Thetford green stuff is complete garbage from what I've read. But, the Elsan green (that replaces both the green and pink, can be used for both) has gotten rave reviews. And well, using something a bit more nature friendly if at all possible isn't a bad thing.
Hilarious title there guys, my caravan is an old 63' Olympic made of fibreglass so I've vowed never to drill holes in it but this looks like it will work for others. My guess it the sh*! & Piss will miss the fan. Have you guys been planning your next Euro road trip? Hope your saving up for a trip to Australia!
Composting toilet is the way to go no mixing no smell ,empty solid every month, liquid more offen smell from liquid ( nature head) boat or rv .must have toilet only way to go
I would NEVER haul my nasty stuff ....I always use a leakproof bag & put it in the toilet bowl..& throw it away..like I Would dispose of baby sh... or cat poo. You can use the same system in a bucket.😊
I suspect the fan creates to little vacuum to pull the urine up and across the length of the hose to the fan and filter. Now if you moving and the toilet tank is full and splashing then you could encounter liquids in the extraction hose. In this problem a filter sponge may be useful.
“Caravan owners are the only species that carry out their own feaces - and are proud of it”. You guys make me laugh out loud! Thanks a million.
Love your banter---often very funny! Thank you for your humor---and honest assessment on topics like this!
Your partner is sitting there looking beautiful and you come out with Shit Talk. I almost fell off my chair laughing. Always love your new videos.
Thank you Chris!
Another down to earth informative video.....with added 'toilet humor' ....Well done again. :-)
you guys are so natural and wonderful
I only recently found you guys and have loved the video's so far...you are down to earth and funny funny funny...in a modest way...thanks for the real reviews as I'm only just now deciding what kind of toilet to put in my van. All good info to consider...travel safe and see you in the next video.
Dear Finnish friends, how wonderful it is to follow your channel. Finally a couple who dares to say how life is in a Van, the good and lesser moments, winter and summer, and also the adjustments to improve comfort in a motorhome purchased from the factory. You never see that, usually you have built it yourself at home and you can never make a comparison with, for example, this bought and finished Adria.
I have been giving a lot of money to other fluids but the only good working is indeed the BLUE AquaKem.
My conclusion after many years of experience and testing a lot of brands, sometimes only available outside my country.
- The best solution for Thetford toilets without odors and fast breakdown of faeces is: Install allways the SOG for the odors and use the BLUE AquaKem for dissolving rapidly the faeces.
- Many will now say, the Blue Kem is not septic tank friendly, and that's true. But any other friendly solution of liquid (Green,...) makes your toilet 'stinks' or smells for days and weeks.
- Composting toilets are excellent but they are made for men and not woman friendly, who have a real problem with there period every month, so it's a no go as a couple.
Very informative video for newbies and so true.
Love your channel! You guys are funny! Very entertaining!
So glad to hear, we are sometimes LITTLE embarrased about what we talk to the camera. 😀
I may have solution for the pee splash thing: There are these larger size (19mm) Gardena so called STOP hose couplers/fittings which have a valve in them. The valve close when you seperate the two coupler halves automatically. You can attach the cut of piece (hopefully you kept it somewhere) of the supplied hose to the tank and the valved part of the coupler and install the other half of the coupler to the remaining hose going to the fan. The valve is water tight and as such you can shake the tank all you want without fear of being stink splashed upon...
Thanks for the Super High Intensity Training video.😉
Looking forward to your review on this SOG system👍 Would have loved to have seen an outtakes of this vlog I'm sure it would be a comedy gem😂
Been using Lidl Formil bio washing liquid for the last couple of years, it's ok for septic tanks, not as good as the thetford stuff but very cheap, would be interesting to see how it works when combined with the sog. Great channel, thankyou.
Hi Guys! Thanks for this! You guys are awesome we love your van! Please could you do an update on the SOG toilet system? Super curious how you are finding it a year later?
I think we will do update video in future. Short version: Its the best! If we ever buy new van, first thing we install is SOG. :)
The shit has hit the fan!
Ahh, a shave and a haircut. Nice. Spring? Still looks like winter outside. When does spring start over there? In the states, its March 21st. I can't wait. It's been raining non stop for over a week. Very dreary. Glad to see your doing well.
I am looking to buy a similar campervan, but I want to have a composting toilet installed in place of the cassette toilet. In the cassette compartment, i will add a water heater for my recirculating shower. Or, if the water heater already has a space in the van, perhaps the cassette space is large enough for the shower‘s water tank. Thoughts? 🇫🇮🚚
You look so young without the beard! The wife also looks lovely today. You can get a macerator on your next van . Toilet talk can be very controversial. Good to see your point of view.
Cool stuff. In your other video I just commented on you mentioned something about a vent near your toilet? Like the beat around 8:30.
Welcome to the number 2 show for van dwelling. Talking Shit. Hahahah ❤️🤟🏻
Elsan for me, so cheap off eBay and works better than any others.
Great video 😊👍🌹
I use a porta potty (a mobile version of the Thetford brand toilets) I use it only for the number one procedures. Number two I try to do in toilets which I visit at gas stations and restaurants. If I need to go number two and a regular toilet isn't around I us the bowl of the porta potty to place a plastic baggy in filled with some sawdust. I do business in the baggy an thigh a knot in it to close it. I store the bag(s) in a small bucket with a lid hanging from the chassis of the van and when I find it I throw the bag(s) away in a dumpster or larger container. I do this very few times since I plan my shit rather well... pardon my french... but emergencies do occur as we all know...
Back to the pee story:
The porta potty system uses an upper and a lower tank and a hand pump to transfer clean water from the upper tank through the bowl and drains into the lower tank for storage. Mine is about 15 L and lasts me a week only using it for number 1.
I use plain water in the upper tank with a little bit of a liquid sold in aquarium places called aquarium filter starter, which is a mixture of harmless but very helpful bacteria which break down ammonia (the chemical in pee which causes the nasty smell) I use a very small 3 watt air bubbler (from a even smaller aquarium which runs only for 20 minutes after the toilet has been used and also switches on when I start my van's engine) The bubbler aerates the waste water in the lower tank to help the bacteria break down the ammonia added to the waste water during peeing. The bacteria need ammonia to eat and oxygen to breath. The ammonia smell has no time to develop inside the waste tank because the bacteria are very fast in doing there job. The ammonia is converted into nitrite and eventually into nitrate which are both odorless. Nitrates are harmless to flush into nature since it is a naturally occurring fertilizer. So basically I can (and at times I do) empty the lower tank in the forest (obviously away from any nearby streams or wells. Basically I am watering and fertilizing plants in the vicinity...
For those skeptical: look up on google: Nitrification Cycle and Nitrifying Bacteria... Both are common names in the aquarium/fishtank world, are present in nature and both are very well documented as being a safe, clean and environmentally responsible way to deal with ammonia laden water...
:-) "emptying it somewhere else"...have a nice weekend :-), it's a good idea, but i couldn't do my own, was already happy that my water pumps worked again after the first owner made a total mess in electrical system...you are technician, totally different thing if YOU do it yourself...so I probably stay at SOG Klappspaten solution...:-)))))))) (okay no good idea downtown Helsinki)
Your friend is a super cool guy, good choice :-)
Un saludo desde América Latina
What happens if the cassette is 90% full and you drive over a big bump? Presumably the contents of the cassette could spill into the hose?
I'm thinking about using one of these, but it must smell absolutely revolting when you're emptying it? The beauty of the chemical toilets is the chemicals stop it from smelling whilst you pour the contents out
We have now used the SOG fan for years. We dont think it smells revolting, or maybe we have just get used to the smell hahah? We empty our toilet approx two times a week. We still use the toilet chemical if we cannot empy our toilet for weeks, because we are scared it will stink horrible if it sits there for too long time.
And number 2 *wink* I LOVE IT!
Yery funny and good!
I think you can email the company that developed that SOG system or post to their forum online any questions you might have. I'm sure they will answer all the questions you have. There's no need to guess or assume anything.
Must be spring, the beards gone!!
The blue stuff will (as far as I know) kill a septic tank, though, so you need to be careful about where you dump it. However, I've heard good things about Elsan green/organic toilet fluid, but not sure if you can get those in Finland, it may be a UK only thing. But people seem to think it works quite well to control odor, and you can use it both as flushing fluid and tank treatment. One chemical to rule them all? Personally I'm getting a composting toilet when I get my van. I know they import the Nature's Head to Europe at least, but I'd prefer the Airhead. Gotta empty pee every few days, but you only have to empty the solids once every few weeks. I wouldn't personally stop using fluids in the toilet just because you have a fan now though. The fluids do help break down the solids too (a little) so it's easier to empty and doesn't stink as much.
Your right, all septic tank dumps ask you not to use blue loo chemical as it kills the enzymes that break down the toilet waste. The pink and the green additives are friendlier, but don't work so well in breaking down the waste and the poo smell is not masked regardless of how much you put in.
@@ukbusman Yep, the Thetford green stuff is complete garbage from what I've read. But, the Elsan green (that replaces both the green and pink, can be used for both) has gotten rave reviews. And well, using something a bit more nature friendly if at all possible isn't a bad thing.
Hilarious title there guys, my caravan is an old 63' Olympic made of fibreglass so I've vowed never to drill holes in it but this looks like it will work for others. My guess it the sh*! & Piss will miss the fan. Have you guys been planning your next Euro road trip? Hope your saving up for a trip to Australia!
Composting toilet is the way to go no mixing no smell ,empty solid every month, liquid more offen smell from liquid ( nature head) boat or rv .must have toilet only way to go
for the money you save using the fan you could invest in a respirator mask and a hasmat suite
Are you still pleased with the SOG system?
Do you have heated tanks?
Disconnect the tube when in transit?😊
👍Luv U Guys!👍
Chinese proverb. "Go to bed with itchy bum, wake in morning with smelly thumb".
Meanwhile in Finland.... Shit hits the fan.... pardon my french...
Who else watched this while eating breakfast? ^^
Incinerator toilet. Make some savings because the £3000 cost is more than worth it :-)
Shi tastic video 😁
What does SOG mean? Sucking Out Gases? A little fan in a tube?
I dont really know the meaning of the name, but Sucking sounds like right one. :D Yes, there is little fan that sucks air.
cute dog ~+_+
That was a s**t video, love it, ::)
I would NEVER haul my nasty stuff ....I always use a leakproof bag & put it in the toilet bowl..& throw it away..like I Would dispose of baby sh... or cat poo. You can use the same system in a bucket.😊
I suspect the fan creates to little vacuum to pull the urine up and across the length of the hose to the fan and filter. Now if you moving and the toilet tank is full and splashing then you could encounter liquids in the extraction hose. In this problem a filter sponge may be useful.
A wise old man once said i'll pass on this subject.
What?!
Where is your beard, Joni??
Its spring and no need for Scandinavian scarf. :)
Lol
Pretty shitty video! Thanks for your crappy info! 😀 Sehr gute!
These two don't half talk some shit :P
:)
We used cheap biological washing cubes & OK we thought.
Washing cubes? Do you have the brand name, we could test them out. :)
@@Vantasticvan Morning. Just the cheapest biological tablets from any supermarché. 😉