Hi there! As a former Korail employee, and currently working at KR(Korea National Railway), I'm answering 10:27. It's because the trolley line and signal system are currently designed to be 300~320km/h, so it couldn't run to 330km/h for safety. In addition, in Korea's Rolling Stocks Technical Standard, the max design speed is designated as 1.1 times(110% = 330km/h) the max operating speed. So as you said, 330km/h is theoretically possible, but it's hard to speed up in the current state...😂 However, many discussions for HSR's speed improvement are continuing in preparation for Pyeongtaek Osong High Speed Rail THX :)
@@shanjida8353 Korail operates national railways, but KR builds national railways and maintains rail facilities. Their relationship is like DB and DB InfraGO's. 😃
I used to live in Korea, and I miss using the trains here. So affordable and reliable! Even the older and slower trains were great. Korea can teach the UK a thing or two.
@@MartinBrezhello sir, please forgive me if I offend you with this comment. I don't know much about korea, but I have seen that south korea is a very small country in size. No disrespect. I just want to know why such a small country needs a high speed rail ? Because every major places should be near. I just want to clear my doubt.
@@arnoygayen1984This is my guess... Unlike the UK, Korea has many mountains, so I think the winding lines of the existing railways connecting the major cities are one of the reasons for installing high-speed railways. If you use a 130 km/h train running on the existing railways, it takes nearly 6 hours to get from Seoul to Busan, which can be tiring and painful for train users. On the other hand, a 300 km/h train can travel in 2 hours.
10:07 Fun fact: the Line 1 train on the other side is the only metro train in Seoul that uses HSR tracks. From Geumcheon-gu Office to Gwangmyeong station, its diverted from the Line 1 tracks and onto the Gyeongbu HSR. Its frequency is just 1 train per hour, as its crucial to match the KTX schedules but also not impacting any KTX services and its frequencies. It was scheduled to be replaced by Seoul's Line 10 subway in the 90s, but the IMF crisis led to the scrapping of the project. Its successor, the Sin-Ansan Line, will replace the service in the coming years.
20:23 : It's an old railway bridge and train trailers converted in a restaurant and café ( 비비정예술열차 ), everything is a potential café in Korea haha. Btw next time you come in Korea try the new KTX-Cheongryong, it's almost the same as KTX-Eum rolling stock (distributed) but with a higher speed, it's developed from the prototype HEMU-430. I didn't try it yet but it seems to be the ultimate high speed train ! Also you should try the ITX too, it's the EMU service made to replace the Mungunghwa, there are 2 different rolling stocks with one not yet introduced (I think), if you want more information you should look on namu wiki instead of wikipedia, it's only in Korean but you can translate easily.
Thank you for a fantastic review! Just a few facts cuz my dad was in charge of technology transfer between Korea, SNCF and Alstom for the first batch of KTX I. The first high speed section from Seoul to Osong is built under the strict management of the french engineers. The rest of the high speed lines including Honam line are built by Koreans. According to some Korean engineers there’s a issue with korean built section of tracks, unlike the french line which is almost impeccable. Still, Im very thankful for all the efforts put in to hst between sncf and korail! If not France, korea would be running type 300 series Shinkansens, as this was one of the competitors at that time, along with ICE 1. Anyways, Hope you enjoy the trip!
love to see yet another train review from my dear homeland south korea! as im currently living abroad, i do miss the puntuality, cleanliness, and service quality of Korail quite often 🥲
Just a TMI about the name: like you said, Sancheon was derived from Sancheoneo (cherry salmon), but on its own, it also means "mountains and rivers," which is pretty apt considering the train traverses through and over the country's mountains and rivers.
12:35 The TTX used computer tilting, and was aimed to be introduced in the old Jungang Line, where trains are subject to many curves. However, it was decided that banking the curves, as well as straightening the line was more economical, thus the project was scrapped. There aren't any conventional lines that can support speeds higher than 150kph anyway. The Jungang Line is currently at the end stages of renovation, and the 230kph KTX-Eum runs on the segment that has already been renovated and electrified. At least they learned that the EMU technology for high speed trains is a better way forward. The TTX was then used for some internet testing, and stored in the yard. The end cars of the TTX is now preserved in a railway high school and a mechanical technical high school. HEMU-430x was a prototype for the third gen HST, the KTX-Eum and KTX-Cheongryong. No commercial 400kph HSTs have been developed yet, as no line supports speeds up to 400kph. However, the quad-tracking of the Pyeongtaek-Osong HSR would support speeds up to 400kph, and the upcoming renewal of the Gyeongbu HSR tracks and signalling for speeds at or higher than 320kph is anticipated, so we will definitely see a fourth-gen HST with those speeds soon. Earlier this year, they have unveiled the HSEMU-370 project, with a much more sleek design compared to the third-gen HSTs. Those sets are the ones that will eventually replace the first-gen KTX trains in around 2032-2038. These trains will cut journey times from Seoul to Busan to just 1 hour and 50 minutes!
At 20:19, what you saw was 'BiBiJeong Art Train', a train restaurant and café made of decommissioned and refurbished Saemaeul-class rolling stocks parked on a defunct railway bridge.
TIP. You can find the 1st class amenities at 15:45. Some bottles of water and mini-snack boxes are located on the left & right side of the seat. These are provided for 1st class passengers. (You can take it on your own if you are 1st class passenger) I know that there's no english explanation for the 1st class amenities (written in Korean only), so many foreign people didn't know about that amenities, and it's a little bit regrettable for KORAIL.
I worked on the contract for the series 1 rolling stock and fixed equipment between 1998 and 2004 with the French contractor. This brought back many happy memories of that project. The section around Osong was used as the initial high speed test track and IIRW there was a theft one weekend of the copper catenary wire. We never really worked out how it had been done.
Another way to look at the South Korean high-speed Network they have help from the French SNCF to make it a network. 10 years ago one can actually reach ICN by KTX from Busan. If they were to make the same thing for Europe it needs to have pairs of Pantographs Metalized Carbon 1.95m for DC🇳🇱🇫🇷 and AC 15kv 16.7hz AC seen in 🇩🇪🇦🇹 1.45m Copper strip AC 25kv 50hz and 15kv 16.7hz AC CFF DC 3kv Italy. Try using the Italian/Swiss Pantagraph strip 1.45m on a German and Austrian 15kv 16.7hz you will actually get a power lock situation. Metalized Carbon pantograph has to be used for their 15kv 16.7hz AC territories. Excellent video overall
Greetings from an American expat in Arcachon! Did you get a chance to visit Yeosu on your Korean trip? It's a wonderful city. IIRC, the name means "beautiful waters". I lived in Korea for 9 months in 1999 on a consulting assignment. 3 days/week in Seoul, 1 day/week in Inchon and 1 day/week in Yeosu, taking the first flight in the morning, working all day and then flying back to Seoul in the evening. One day in Yeosu, my client decided to take the day off and acted as a tour guide, taking me to many interesting places known to the locals. Super cool!
@@Desi365 No, not JUST the oysters. LOL My niece, who was 5 when my brother met her French mother, needed moral and financial support after a nasty divorce. My brother never treated her as his own, so I've been her protector for the last 45 years. She lived here, so I sold my house in Flagstaff and moved to Arcachon with my 3 small dogs. I had to buy 3 seats for the flight to Paris. Ha. I've been here 3 years now and love it. Never going back to the States.
You've travelled a lot. How do you rate your ability to compete with Alstom, Siemens and the like? Is this a product for the Western European market, or is it more typically Asian? As always, a great video. I didn't realise that Hyundai also has AGV trains
The HEMU train is a prototype train and has been developed as a commercial train now. They are the KTX Cheongryong(EMU 320) and KTX EUM(EMU 260). after those train, EMU 370 is gonna be developed. This train can run up to 370km/h. All EMU trains in Korail are based on HEMU 430 train.
What is the drink on the tray with Detroit Michigan stamp. I'm flying to Detroit next week from Washington, DC because Amtrak train service is slow and mediocre. I'd either have to ride to Chicago 285 miles west of Detroit and catch a train back to the Motor City or get off the train at Toledo, Ohio and transfer to a bus in the wee hours of the morning. No can do.
Trains used to position first class cars on either end of the consist so first class passengers would not be contaminated by second class passengers passing through.
Contaminated? I think it was more so that first class passengers were closest to the entrance/exit at the principal station, which tended to be terminus stations. 🤔
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@@FromtheWindowSeat Or sound? So they're farther away from the engine.
Hey, if you're going to use the Honam HSR or the Jeolla Line to Yeosu-Expo, Iksan, Jeonju, and Mokpo, then Yongsan station just south of Seoul station would be a better choice. That's where almost all Honam line trains depart and terminate.
Operation speed rarely matches design speed. The faster the train the more track wear and tear and enhanced safety precautios. A few mintes gained is not worth the added cost of maintenance and will not attract additional passengers.
Korea launched the new-type KTX-CR, Y2024. Max.Speed is (320/350) kmh. (Real/Design) And now standby EMU-370. EMU-370 prototype schedule is (Y2025~2030) Max.Speed is (370/400) kmh. (Real/Design) From HEMU-430 Max.Speed is (420/430) kmh. (Real/Design) ua-cam.com/video/R16mRP8GKVk/v-deo.html
The bogie is in between carriages, the suspension system is quite bulky, with air tanks on the top you can see at 03:35. ICE is a conventional design with bogies under the carriage.
Hi there! As a former Korail employee, and currently working at KR(Korea National Railway), I'm answering 10:27. It's because the trolley line and signal system are currently designed to be 300~320km/h, so it couldn't run to 330km/h for safety. In addition, in Korea's Rolling Stocks Technical Standard, the max design speed is designated as 1.1 times(110% = 330km/h) the max operating speed. So as you said, 330km/h is theoretically possible, but it's hard to speed up in the current state...😂 However, many discussions for HSR's speed improvement are continuing in preparation for Pyeongtaek Osong High Speed Rail THX :)
Whats the difference between korail and KR
@@shanjida8353 Korail operates national railways, but KR builds national railways and maintains rail facilities. Their relationship is like DB and DB InfraGO's. 😃
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I used to live in Korea, and I miss using the trains here. So affordable and reliable!
Even the older and slower trains were great. Korea can teach the UK a thing or two.
Hearing the Kakao Talk (Korean WhatsApp equivalent) notifications takes me back.
@@MartinBrezhello sir, please forgive me if I offend you with this comment.
I don't know much about korea, but I have seen that south korea is a very small country in size. No disrespect.
I just want to know why such a small country needs a high speed rail ?
Because every major places should be near.
I just want to clear my doubt.
@@arnoygayen1984This is my guess... Unlike the UK, Korea has many mountains, so I think the winding lines of the existing railways connecting the major cities are one of the reasons for installing high-speed railways. If you use a 130 km/h train running on the existing railways, it takes nearly 6 hours to get from Seoul to Busan, which can be tiring and painful for train users. On the other hand, a 300 km/h train can travel in 2 hours.
10:07 Fun fact: the Line 1 train on the other side is the only metro train in Seoul that uses HSR tracks. From Geumcheon-gu Office to Gwangmyeong station, its diverted from the Line 1 tracks and onto the Gyeongbu HSR. Its frequency is just 1 train per hour, as its crucial to match the KTX schedules but also not impacting any KTX services and its frequencies.
It was scheduled to be replaced by Seoul's Line 10 subway in the 90s, but the IMF crisis led to the scrapping of the project. Its successor, the Sin-Ansan Line, will replace the service in the coming years.
20:23 : It's an old railway bridge and train trailers converted in a restaurant and café ( 비비정예술열차 ), everything is a potential café in Korea haha.
Btw next time you come in Korea try the new KTX-Cheongryong, it's almost the same as KTX-Eum rolling stock (distributed) but with a higher speed, it's developed from the prototype HEMU-430. I didn't try it yet but it seems to be the ultimate high speed train !
Also you should try the ITX too, it's the EMU service made to replace the Mungunghwa, there are 2 different rolling stocks with one not yet introduced (I think), if you want more information you should look on namu wiki instead of wikipedia, it's only in Korean but you can translate easily.
Thank you for a fantastic review!
Just a few facts cuz my dad was in charge of technology transfer between Korea, SNCF and Alstom for the first batch of KTX I. The first high speed section from Seoul to Osong is built under the strict management of the french engineers. The rest of the high speed lines including Honam line are built by Koreans. According to some Korean engineers there’s a issue with korean built section of tracks, unlike the french line which is almost impeccable. Still, Im very thankful for all the efforts put in to hst between sncf and korail! If not France, korea would be running type 300 series Shinkansens, as this was one of the competitors at that time, along with ICE 1. Anyways, Hope you enjoy the trip!
love to see yet another train review from my dear homeland south korea! as im currently living abroad, i do miss the puntuality, cleanliness, and service quality of Korail quite often 🥲
Just a TMI about the name: like you said, Sancheon was derived from Sancheoneo (cherry salmon), but on its own, it also means "mountains and rivers," which is pretty apt considering the train traverses through and over the country's mountains and rivers.
The interior colors, design, and lighting make the cabin look like a hospital waiting room.
12:35 The TTX used computer tilting, and was aimed to be introduced in the old Jungang Line, where trains are subject to many curves. However, it was decided that banking the curves, as well as straightening the line was more economical, thus the project was scrapped. There aren't any conventional lines that can support speeds higher than 150kph anyway. The Jungang Line is currently at the end stages of renovation, and the 230kph KTX-Eum runs on the segment that has already been renovated and electrified. At least they learned that the EMU technology for high speed trains is a better way forward.
The TTX was then used for some internet testing, and stored in the yard. The end cars of the TTX is now preserved in a railway high school and a mechanical technical high school.
HEMU-430x was a prototype for the third gen HST, the KTX-Eum and KTX-Cheongryong. No commercial 400kph HSTs have been developed yet, as no line supports speeds up to 400kph. However, the quad-tracking of the Pyeongtaek-Osong HSR would support speeds up to 400kph, and the upcoming renewal of the Gyeongbu HSR tracks and signalling for speeds at or higher than 320kph is anticipated, so we will definitely see a fourth-gen HST with those speeds soon. Earlier this year, they have unveiled the HSEMU-370 project, with a much more sleek design compared to the third-gen HSTs. Those sets are the ones that will eventually replace the first-gen KTX trains in around 2032-2038. These trains will cut journey times from Seoul to Busan to just 1 hour and 50 minutes!
For your information, HEMU-430X is an experimental EMU trainset, not for passenger service.
At 20:19, what you saw was 'BiBiJeong Art Train', a train restaurant and café made of decommissioned and refurbished Saemaeul-class rolling stocks parked on a defunct railway bridge.
TIP. You can find the 1st class amenities at 15:45. Some bottles of water and mini-snack boxes are located on the left & right side of the seat.
These are provided for 1st class passengers. (You can take it on your own if you are 1st class passenger)
I know that there's no english explanation for the 1st class amenities (written in Korean only), so many foreign people didn't know about that amenities, and it's a little bit regrettable for KORAIL.
Ah thanks! I saw it on the OG KTX but not on the Sancheon. Thanks!
I worked on the contract for the series 1 rolling stock and fixed equipment between 1998 and 2004 with the French contractor. This brought back many happy memories of that project.
The section around Osong was used as the initial high speed test track and IIRW there was a theft one weekend of the copper catenary wire. We never really worked out how it had been done.
Smooth, quiet ride. Good speed.
Thanks Thibault. 👌👍🥰
_Wonderful Trains Friend!_ ❤💯
한국의 기차를 리뷰해주셔서 감사해요😁😁
Another way to look at the South Korean high-speed Network they have help from the French SNCF to make it a network. 10 years ago one can actually reach ICN by KTX from Busan. If they were to make the same thing for Europe it needs to have pairs of Pantographs Metalized Carbon 1.95m for DC🇳🇱🇫🇷 and AC 15kv 16.7hz AC seen in 🇩🇪🇦🇹 1.45m Copper strip AC 25kv 50hz and 15kv 16.7hz AC CFF DC 3kv Italy. Try using the Italian/Swiss Pantagraph strip 1.45m on a German and Austrian 15kv 16.7hz you will actually get a power lock situation. Metalized Carbon pantograph has to be used for their 15kv 16.7hz AC territories. Excellent video overall
For short distance this train looks very confortable. 🍒🍒🍒
Well, with this train a trip north to south in Korea is just 2 hrs..
Love the look of this train
Greetings from an American expat in Arcachon! Did you get a chance to visit Yeosu on your Korean trip? It's a wonderful city. IIRC, the name means "beautiful waters". I lived in Korea for 9 months in 1999 on a consulting assignment. 3 days/week in Seoul, 1 day/week in Inchon and 1 day/week in Yeosu, taking the first flight in the morning, working all day and then flying back to Seoul in the evening. One day in Yeosu, my client decided to take the day off and acted as a tour guide, taking me to many interesting places known to the locals. Super cool!
And how did you end up in Arcachon after living in Asia and a life of travel ?? And why , of all places ? It's not just the oysters I'm sure :)
@@Desi365 No, not JUST the oysters. LOL My niece, who was 5 when my brother met her French mother, needed moral and financial support after a nasty divorce. My brother never treated her as his own, so I've been her protector for the last 45 years. She lived here, so I sold my house in Flagstaff and moved to Arcachon with my 3 small dogs. I had to buy 3 seats for the flight to Paris. Ha. I've been here 3 years now and love it. Never going back to the States.
You've travelled a lot. How do you rate your ability to compete with Alstom, Siemens and the like? Is this a product for the Western European market, or is it more typically Asian? As always, a great video. I didn't realise that Hyundai also has AGV trains
The HEMU train is a prototype train and has been developed as a commercial train now. They are the KTX Cheongryong(EMU 320) and KTX EUM(EMU 260). after those train, EMU 370 is gonna be developed. This train can run up to 370km/h. All EMU trains in Korail are based on HEMU 430 train.
Everyone in South Korea is so well dressed
What is the drink on the tray with Detroit Michigan stamp. I'm flying to Detroit next week from Washington, DC because Amtrak train service is slow and mediocre. I'd either have to ride to Chicago 285 miles west of Detroit and catch a train back to the Motor City or get off the train at Toledo, Ohio and transfer to a bus in the wee hours of the morning. No can do.
Il est magnifique le KTX
Trains used to position first class cars on either end of the consist so first class passengers would not be contaminated by second class passengers passing through.
Contaminated? I think it was more so that first class passengers were closest to the entrance/exit at the principal station, which tended to be terminus stations. 🤔
@@FromtheWindowSeat
Or sound? So they're farther away from the engine.
Hey, if you're going to use the Honam HSR or the Jeolla Line to Yeosu-Expo, Iksan, Jeonju, and Mokpo, then Yongsan station just south of Seoul station would be a better choice. That's where almost all Honam line trains depart and terminate.
I feel like South Korea's high speed rail is super underrated.
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Lovely!
Please review the ICE 3 NEO.😊
Boa viagem simplys trem lindo
Not that South Korea is on my bucket list but I’m a fan of the high speed trains and nice to see it in operation, nice post thibault
Do you read these comments?
Please put subtitles on your opening comments for hearing impaired.
Do they sell beer on the train? Or is it BYOB?
Riding a KTX-Sancheon to Suncheon. (?!)
Anyone else initially confused by this?
Bro , was this video shot on nothing phone ?
there is a 3rd generation already the Eum Ktx high speed train.
Why do Yotube bloggers choose seats with the worst window view?
Probably don’t have much other choices usually.
You don't get to choose your seat on the KTX if you buy your ticket at a vending machine.
Operation speed rarely matches design speed. The faster the train the more track wear and tear and enhanced safety precautios. A few mintes gained is not worth the added cost of maintenance and will not attract additional passengers.
And because the speed is higher, the braking distances are longer, meaning less trains on the same track.😊
Please could you do a review of Chinese one? The KTX looks fabulous though
Reading is causing migraine!!!!! Where is audio?
Korea launched the new-type KTX-CR, Y2024.
Max.Speed is (320/350) kmh. (Real/Design)
And now standby EMU-370.
EMU-370 prototype schedule is (Y2025~2030)
Max.Speed is (370/400) kmh. (Real/Design)
From HEMU-430
Max.Speed is (420/430) kmh. (Real/Design)
ua-cam.com/video/R16mRP8GKVk/v-deo.html
Have you ever heard the Microsoft's problem? Many rail lines paralised!
Brightline, Amtrak, and NYC Subway are fine. Not very much rail lines are affected.
@@SplashAnimationCo Almost every single British rail operator is affected.
Beaucoup de similitudes avec le matériel Alstom.
Why do the TGV-family trains have such narrow gangways between carriages? It feels like ICE-family trains have wider passageways.
The bogie is in between carriages, the suspension system is quite bulky, with air tanks on the top you can see at 03:35.
ICE is a conventional design with bogies under the carriage.
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Train to busan💀
Another proof that only Europeans and Japanese can produce trains. Others are just copying.
Not the bad thing
Here comes the armchair eugenicist!
bullxhit
I am not watching videos with people in muzzles 🤷♂
Come on man
you talk so fast, you can't understand your english
Design sangat buruk
so what endianesian
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