Neil deGrasse Tyson and NASA Chief Scientist Explain New Mars Rover

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  • @parthparthparth
    @parthparthparth 4 роки тому +214

    6:09
    Neil looks at Chuck like "Duuuude, stop embarrassing me in front of the cool kid"

    • @birdy4life32
      @birdy4life32 4 роки тому +4

      Lol ya😂👍

    • @joeypedone3952
      @joeypedone3952 4 роки тому +12

      Unpopular opinion : this entire episode not just at 6:09

    • @EzFlyers10
      @EzFlyers10 4 роки тому +9

      I love that the "cool kid" is a huge nerd.. wasn't like that when I was a kid, but I wish it was!

    • @EzFlyers10
      @EzFlyers10 4 роки тому +1

      @Francisca Sandoval not me :)

    • @Proffessor2000
      @Proffessor2000 4 роки тому +7

      Chuck is smarter than he acts. He's not dumb.

  • @boy638
    @boy638 4 роки тому +448

    When you can get the NASA chief scientist, I would expect a full hour video.

    • @mko3530
      @mko3530 4 роки тому +38

      When you can get the NASA chief scientist, I would expect no more than 3 minutes of Q&A because "NASA chief scientist" sounds like a very busy person.

    • @mko3530
      @mko3530 4 роки тому +1

      @Tom Mears I love how people know better what others meant to say.

    • @insane_troll
      @insane_troll 4 роки тому +13

      In all fairness, Neil didn't realise he was the chief scientist until he said so.

    • @TheSec09
      @TheSec09 4 роки тому

      @@insane_troll He knew, as in the video description states his title.

    • @gamble8008
      @gamble8008 4 роки тому +3

      TheSec09 hahaha you just got trolled by @Insane Troll nice work bud u got em

  • @destroyer6470
    @destroyer6470 4 роки тому +218

    So when the perseverance dropping that "sounds of Mars" album

    • @glaceonbread1311
      @glaceonbread1311 4 роки тому +2

      February 18th

    • @gioliv5636
      @gioliv5636 4 роки тому

      Lol

    • @TechNextLetsGo
      @TechNextLetsGo 4 роки тому +5

      How did curiosity not have a microphone? That's like the watch from Spy Kids that couldn't tell time. A billion dollar rover didn't have a 5 dollar mic lol.

    • @Vaprous
      @Vaprous 4 роки тому +1

      Ironically, there will probably be at least one person that thinks to remix the recordings of sounds from Mars into music.

    • @Hoganply
      @Hoganply 4 роки тому +1

      @@TechNextLetsGo The more data there is to send, the more difficult it is to receive, but I agree, sound would be cool.

  • @kylej7593
    @kylej7593 4 роки тому +25

    I always love how Neil makes things fun and interesting to listen to and i think its great when smart people like the NASA scientist interviewed have a sense of humor while still communicating complex concepts more understandably :)

  • @maakjar
    @maakjar 4 роки тому +17

    You guys make this so fun to learn I love it!!!

  • @ekojar3047
    @ekojar3047 4 роки тому +129

    This new rover is like a new iPhone but this one has the headphone jack!

    • @ewu2030
      @ewu2030 4 роки тому +17

      well the price is pretty close :))

    • @Caddiken
      @Caddiken 4 роки тому

      🤣🤣😂

    • @Caddiken
      @Caddiken 4 роки тому +1

      Quick duck the camera is turning this way 😂🤣💀

    • @_Caedwyn
      @_Caedwyn 4 роки тому

      if it were like an iphone then you we should've sent different pieces later on DX its like a new flagship Android phone :p

  • @CeanStrauss
    @CeanStrauss 4 роки тому +7

    Star Talk is the best. Like anytime, all the time. Thanks Neil and Chuck! 👍

  • @yohannesgetachew5869
    @yohannesgetachew5869 4 роки тому +6

    A more accurate info from NASA chief scentist and my favorite startalk than what I have got from the news! I'm very much excited .

  • @alexg3446
    @alexg3446 4 роки тому +13

    When people say Avengers Endgame is the most ambitious crossover, I will forever counter with when Gravity Assist met StarTalk.
    My two favorite podcasts colliding!

    • @idontcare7961
      @idontcare7961 4 роки тому

      And they are lying to you all the time.

    • @zapp7938
      @zapp7938 4 роки тому

      @@idontcare7961 That comment makes you sound like one of those insane anti-science conspiracy theorists

  • @himeshk187
    @himeshk187 4 роки тому +31

    Cup holders! This guy has the best timing ever!

  • @gasparperalta3725
    @gasparperalta3725 4 роки тому +20

    Sounds of mars playlist to relax/study too

    • @xXxJokerManxXx
      @xXxJokerManxXx 4 роки тому +2

      You forgot to add '24/7' .. people gotta listen to those dope Martian tracks all day!

    • @Pile_of_carbon
      @Pile_of_carbon 4 роки тому

      Spoiler alert: Mars sounds just like Yoko Ono's... "music". All day, every day, all year around.

  • @derrickstorm6976
    @derrickstorm6976 4 роки тому +33

    "I thought translate meant it's going to start to learn Martian"
    In robot voice: *Hello. You have, very nice, waterfront property, here*
    *"We no longer come in peace." We come to steal your waterfront property* 😂

  • @rvbob1
    @rvbob1 4 роки тому +2

    Absolutely the best and most informative video that you have produced! Thank you so much. Sometimes you digress from the main point and add just a tad too much silliness, this was perfect.

  • @MikeJamesMedia
    @MikeJamesMedia 4 роки тому +3

    Exciting! Looking forward to whatever new discoveries happen on this mission.

  • @TheAndjelika
    @TheAndjelika 4 роки тому +20

    Jezero in many Slavic languages means - lake. So it makes sense (:

    • @bigpod
      @bigpod 4 роки тому +2

      its actualy named after a bosnian village called Jezero. and name for that came from slavic word for lake jezero.
      but what has been bothering me this all time is how they pronounce jezero

    • @TheAndjelika
      @TheAndjelika 4 роки тому

      @@bigpod You should read J as Y, so soft.. everything else is more or less the same. (:

    • @TheAndjelika
      @TheAndjelika 4 роки тому

      @@bigpod I Bosnia, Serbia, Croatia, Montenegro they all speak actually the same language, everywhere there it means the same - lake

    • @TheAndjelika
      @TheAndjelika 4 роки тому

      @@bigpod goo.gl/maps/xDZ9E6tsRt7uyQCg9

    • @bigpod
      @bigpod 4 роки тому

      @@TheAndjelika with them i ment the english speaking people, being slovneian it shouldnt be wierd to me how we say jezero

  • @icraigg
    @icraigg 4 роки тому

    so excited to hear the audio recordings.

  • @lghammer778
    @lghammer778 4 роки тому +2

    That was Awesome! The best inside scoop of Perseverance info from launch day 😃

  • @davidscott3412
    @davidscott3412 4 роки тому +13

    The chief is like the best science teacher in the school
    Neil is the smart kid who admires that teacher while sitting next to chuck, the class clown.

    • @davidscott3412
      @davidscott3412 4 роки тому

      @Mike Bailey i'm sure he is worth more than that.

    • @davidscott3412
      @davidscott3412 4 роки тому

      @Mike Bailey well man that's your point of view, mine is different. Difference doesn't imply i need to *grow up* and can you illustrate the human imagination going to outer space concept ? I didn't understand you.

    • @davidscott3412
      @davidscott3412 4 роки тому

      @Mike Bailey No lol i am just stating that we both have different opinions lol idk what your point is mate.

    • @rais1953
      @rais1953 4 роки тому

      @Mike Bailey Neil's a teacher. He entertains in order to convey information in a way that keeps people's attention. The fact that he's popular shows that it works. I didn't like this video as much as some others of Neil's, I thought the entertainment got in the way of the information but the ten minutes or so of actual information in it came from the best source.

  • @Webberjo
    @Webberjo 4 роки тому +2

    I love how excited James gets to talk about Perseverance and NASA's mission.
    This is the most interesting video I've watched in a long time.

  • @hazbaska1
    @hazbaska1 4 роки тому +2

    Was James Green at AGU 2019 @ the Moscone? Because I remember the term magnetosphere and I think I went to one of the panels!

  • @tristandiaz7949
    @tristandiaz7949 4 роки тому +129

    When is he going to get Elon on here 😂

    • @lattoufe
      @lattoufe 4 роки тому +8

      Let's all like this comment!!!! They need to bring him

    • @RackBaLLZ
      @RackBaLLZ 4 роки тому +7

      Elon is exactly who should be on here. 👍

    • @birdy4life32
      @birdy4life32 4 роки тому +2

      Ya!

    • @oceanshome5119
      @oceanshome5119 4 роки тому +7

      When Amber’s trials are over lol

    • @Chris-hx3om
      @Chris-hx3om 4 роки тому +7

      Musk's a twerp. Ask him about Thailand!

  • @gtscubing2544
    @gtscubing2544 4 роки тому +1

    2 questions in one. Are black holes are at the densest possible density that an object can be, and if yes wouldn't that mean that if you fell into a black hole you would just get smushed into a incredibly flat surface and just lay on the surface of the black hole

  • @christopherrippel2463
    @christopherrippel2463 4 роки тому

    Why did you cut James short? I could have watched for hours! Excellent!!?

  • @landar2372
    @landar2372 4 роки тому +2

    Why so short? We need the knowledge man!

  • @sebdiaz1852
    @sebdiaz1852 4 роки тому

    Where can I listen the podcast of this man? Cheers

  • @handyman2506
    @handyman2506 3 роки тому

    2:06
    It went as predicted
    That's awesome

  • @freudsigmund72
    @freudsigmund72 4 роки тому

    Listening to the story about the different equipment on this rover,... all that pops into my mind is the Heineken commercial referring a mars rover...

  • @IudiciumInfernalum
    @IudiciumInfernalum 4 роки тому

    Okay i love all the science aspects of this, but the drone is by far the coolest thing on there. And i can't wait to hear what it sounds like on Mars. Also i just realized they have stereo vision and a microphone. So Mars Walk in VR when?

  • @Purrfect_Werecat
    @Purrfect_Werecat 4 роки тому

    I fully expect the sounds of mars will be pretty dull, yet the fact they will be extra terrestrial will make at least the first hearing pretty exciting.

  • @dantheman8862
    @dantheman8862 4 роки тому

    The way Chuck says the word "rock" is hilarious.

  • @lordonad
    @lordonad 4 роки тому

    Great show guys! 🌎🚀🛰️

  • @Scanner7759
    @Scanner7759 4 роки тому

    When they turn up ,,Neil will be speachless

  • @jimbaker6442
    @jimbaker6442 4 роки тому

    Dr. TJ. When I said with that microphone we can now say yes and I'm so anxious to hear the sounds of Mars I implied that we humans could now hear it. Unfortunately my implication did not equal a clear explanation.

  • @91plm
    @91plm 4 роки тому +2

    0:46 MEME GOLD MINE!!!

  • @andypeiffer5
    @andypeiffer5 4 роки тому

    Chuck, great questions!

  • @gleadr6869
    @gleadr6869 4 роки тому

    Great episode! I could have listened to this for hours.

  • @marenborias4357
    @marenborias4357 4 роки тому

    mindblowingly eye opening... as always

  • @rmn1767
    @rmn1767 4 роки тому +1

    I love the star talk videos

  • @TheWeatherbuff
    @TheWeatherbuff 4 роки тому

    I'd like a job working with this dude. It'd be hard to be in a cranky mood at work! Maximum exuberance.

  • @thefub101
    @thefub101 4 роки тому

    Can you explain how and why the land date remains the same for each of the possible launch dates? What is the maths behind the flight plan?

  • @lorenmars5244
    @lorenmars5244 4 роки тому

    Sagan was Pro-Microphone from the start. Always seemed like a given on any planetary mission.

  • @francoferraro2589
    @francoferraro2589 4 роки тому

    Is This Gon B Live And Direct Dr. Neil (i.e LIKE THE 31ST OF JULY 2020???)Been Waiting All Day🤔

  • @Kongolox
    @Kongolox 4 роки тому

    oh man that was too short!
    Still love it tho

  • @Rizzatouille
    @Rizzatouille 4 роки тому +2

    When he says rock , oxygen, or anything with O in it, its so exaggerated lol

  • @lynchmob72
    @lynchmob72 4 роки тому

    You had me at cup holders.

  • @dwaltjj
    @dwaltjj 4 роки тому

    They should have added some audio playback on the marscopter that plays out, "Wee! Weee!" as it flies. I mean, if we can listen to Mars, and we're going to be flying around on Mars, why not have some fun with it.

  • @reactdev101
    @reactdev101 4 роки тому

    Guys you are the best, thanks for that talk

  • @gingerd2098
    @gingerd2098 4 роки тому +2

    Great, I'm going to hear a recording of Perseverance singing Happy Birthday to herself and get sad aren't I?

  • @luckan20
    @luckan20 4 роки тому

    Fantastic video.

  • @elishaeisen4321
    @elishaeisen4321 4 роки тому

    At this level of precision do they still use (gMm)/(r^2)?

  • @eaglized1045
    @eaglized1045 4 роки тому

    How are we able to receive a signal/pictures through the Van Allen Belt? Why also have we not gone back to the moon?

  • @J4j4yd3r
    @J4j4yd3r 4 роки тому

    So we could make a vr video at mars with audio!

  • @belliotrungy9107
    @belliotrungy9107 4 роки тому

    Needs podcast link I'm lazy ☺️. Ok the helicopter part sold me.

  • @Dylant38
    @Dylant38 4 роки тому

    Imagine finding evidence of humans after we left mars to go to earth, how awesome would that be

  • @darylvondunker327
    @darylvondunker327 3 роки тому

    Remember, the single most important feature of the rover is multi-purpose-use. This mission allows us to hear Mars. But a Future mission would allow us to hear other rover pings or humans if they need to talk to Earth.
    Love this! Truly beautiful workmanship.
    Love the Planetary Redox, unless it's all Serpentine or Olivine. Then we are in trouble. That would be our Kryptonite. And we wouldn't be able to Terra Form the planet. We could use it for forever enclosed colonies- mining, science, and Beta Test, etc...but we can't terraform Asbestos. I hadn't considered that. Ouch. But who know, we could get lucky snd have copper, etc. hmmm...

  • @suntzu957
    @suntzu957 4 роки тому

    In the most scientific terms : AWESOME !

  • @randocrypto1678
    @randocrypto1678 4 роки тому

    What happens to the sky crane after deploying the rover? Does it just go crash somewhere?

  • @therealboywonder6832
    @therealboywonder6832 4 роки тому

    You guys blow my mind

  • @ChrisPyle
    @ChrisPyle 4 роки тому

    “I never met a magnetic field I didn’t like” What a cool guy!

  • @dartmada9733
    @dartmada9733 4 роки тому

    I have a question. I've been reading about domed cities on places like Mars; it basically skips over terraforming by making that area within the dome habitable. I'm wondering how big things like that can be built. Could a dome cover an area of say 10 000 square miles? 20 000? more? Probably not with the metals we use now but with carbon nanotubes or something more advanced like that

    • @dartmada9733
      @dartmada9733 4 роки тому

      @@andresparedes5259 well yeah I know that. I just wanna know if its physically possible to build something that big. That's probably the better way to go on Mars anyway. Domes over large areas instead of direct terraforming. 10 000 square miles is almost twice the size of the greater Tokyo area so you could fit and support millions of people in that

  • @thepodcastforwinners5002
    @thepodcastforwinners5002 4 роки тому

    Lots of “firsts” on this mission! So cool!

  • @KillyWildlands
    @KillyWildlands 4 роки тому

    Can you please talk about kardashev scale? Like estimates of timelines and such

  • @lilmac9982
    @lilmac9982 4 роки тому

    So mindblown 🤯 Cool stuff!

  • @laurafortier9295
    @laurafortier9295 Рік тому

    I think I know the Norwegian that designed or worked on that part ... He might have been doing an earlier mission, but I know he was working on the Mars Rover. Not sure which one. Anyway. Kinda cool.

  • @SpaceFactsWax
    @SpaceFactsWax 4 роки тому

    Thank you for posting. I had the chance to witness a rocket launch in 2018. Incredible experience. I posted a pretty cool clip of the trip to my channel.

  • @richdiaz5747
    @richdiaz5747 4 роки тому

    Still haven’t talked about the pentagons revelations?

  • @KaushikBoruah
    @KaushikBoruah 4 роки тому

    7:08 🤯

  • @lyricsuniverse815
    @lyricsuniverse815 4 роки тому

    Chuck will soon become a physicist!

  • @okdpok1442
    @okdpok1442 4 роки тому +2

    Big neil

  • @dragoonprime9829
    @dragoonprime9829 4 роки тому

    How did mars have rivers and other bodies of water if its too cold with a thin atmosphere? Was it closer to the sun in the past?

  • @azkymohamed123
    @azkymohamed123 4 роки тому +2

    Neil, why can't you wear your headphones correctly???

  • @uncah_bucchal2953
    @uncah_bucchal2953 4 роки тому

    I think that “core” was the best fatty I ever rolled. I love science.

  • @porudoryu
    @porudoryu 4 роки тому

    MARS Lo-Fi unlocked

  • @DanielKarbach
    @DanielKarbach 4 роки тому

    "Let's call the ground penentraty thingy Rimfax!" They sure have a sense of humor :D

    • @intellectual_idiot
      @intellectual_idiot 4 роки тому

      how is that a sense of humor? asking cause i've no idea what's that.

    • @DanielKarbach
      @DanielKarbach 4 роки тому

      @@intellectual_idiot Well, the word "rim" can also be used in a different context

  • @PaulGPixelBike
    @PaulGPixelBike 4 роки тому

    How sensitive the microphone has to be to pick up sound in 1% of earth's atmosphere?

  • @quicknarco8567
    @quicknarco8567 3 роки тому

    Why don’t we deploy a mini telescope somewhat like Hubble to Mars to view the stars and beyond from Mars ?

  • @ASM881
    @ASM881 4 роки тому

    How are they be sure the rover is gonna land on it's wheels????

  • @Trifvas
    @Trifvas 4 роки тому

    Wow no down votes on this video, love it. No hate here.

  • @jaimes5716
    @jaimes5716 4 роки тому

    How can you send to a specific point on mars? that's insane

    • @theduder2617
      @theduder2617 4 роки тому

      By using integral and differential calculus. It's all in the math. Rather hard math to boot. lol
      I have attempted to calculate a landing on Mars a few times.
      Let's just say that I have no business applying for that job. lol

    • @jaimes5716
      @jaimes5716 4 роки тому

      @@theduder2617 yeah but like one thing is to aim for the planet. But to land in a point you have to take into account so many different things

  • @XthegreatwhyX
    @XthegreatwhyX 4 роки тому

    Rovers are no substitute for the excitement and sense of wonder of a manned mission. On the long term, if we consider the effect on public opinion and the children who could be inspired to pursue scientific studies, every rover we send is a waste of money which should really go towards putting a human up there.

  • @TheCanadianlongboard
    @TheCanadianlongboard 4 роки тому

    So exciting

  • @zzzzxxxx341
    @zzzzxxxx341 4 роки тому

    Keep yourself entertained, that was the key to happiness in this fleeting life even if your dreams won't come true forever. Don't dream, it's over.

  • @leanderbarreto6523
    @leanderbarreto6523 4 роки тому

    One of these people should run for president

  • @FusionDeveloper
    @FusionDeveloper 4 роки тому

    So they aimed a rocket at a moving target that will be there in 7.5 months. That is crazy.

  • @tessafox1329
    @tessafox1329 4 роки тому

    Wished I could live a thousand years longer. Or, wished I was born a thousand yrs later.

  •  4 роки тому

    Dana Carvey !!! 😱

  • @BhavyaNanda05
    @BhavyaNanda05 4 роки тому

    I want you to make a video on Nikola Tesla

  • @yujtah
    @yujtah 4 роки тому +1

    Why microphone instead of gopro or something?

    • @yujtah
      @yujtah 4 роки тому

      I want to see fullhd footage from mars

  • @GolDDarius
    @GolDDarius 4 роки тому

    Tyson look like he was out partying for 2 days straight before participating in this video.

  • @rrmond
    @rrmond 4 роки тому

    The last thing we're gonna hear before the world ends will be "You're not a dish. You're a maaan."

  • @SpectreKelevra
    @SpectreKelevra 4 роки тому

    They still haven't clarified if the Mars rover "Perserverance" will have cupholders.

    • @rais1953
      @rais1953 4 роки тому

      It will, sort of. Those rock cores will be stored, in "cupholders" if you like, and dropped off in specified places for another robot mission to pick up later and send back to Earth.

  • @dicksonchristopher1
    @dicksonchristopher1 4 роки тому

    This nasa scientist is actually GRU from despicable me haha

  • @elloboblanco9111
    @elloboblanco9111 4 роки тому

    Hey Neil! Will you also be going to Mars?

  • @nayanpanchal39
    @nayanpanchal39 4 роки тому +174

    I love how many country came together to put this rover together

    • @ejmtv3
      @ejmtv3 4 роки тому +20

      well, the ISS is the same thing and it's still alive. That's what cooperation does

    • @gyozakeynsianism
      @gyozakeynsianism 4 роки тому +8

      Not just rovers and the ISS! The newest accelerator at FermiLab in Illinois is another international effort.

    • @me_and_me_
      @me_and_me_ 4 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/Vpqffgak7To/v-deo.html

    • @idontcare7961
      @idontcare7961 4 роки тому

      Bunch of freemasons protecting their delusion and lies. Ppl start waking up, earth is stationary flat plane. Research it in real life.

    • @vashon100
      @vashon100 4 роки тому +2

      Countries

  • @shinobi111782
    @shinobi111782 4 роки тому +120

    Episode Too short... Too special...i like how Mr chief scientist presented it well. Joy and Excitement all over!

    • @seafodder6129
      @seafodder6129 4 роки тому +5

      Indeed. I would have loved for this to have been at least an hour. I have way too many unanswered questions... :)

    • @louiebili17yearsagoedited85
      @louiebili17yearsagoedited85 4 роки тому +2

      “NASA Chief Scientist” is the title of a very busy man. It’s actually longer than I would expect

  • @popcorn00109
    @popcorn00109 4 роки тому +79

    We will have a museum with all our rovers a collection for the colony!

    • @itroll8638
      @itroll8638 4 роки тому

      Lol your never going to get these rovers back to Earth lol maybe if they just made show case models but honestly zero rovers will be back on earth mark my words. ❤️❤️❤️

    • @popcorn00109
      @popcorn00109 4 роки тому +5

      @@itroll8638 Not brought back to Earth a museum set up on Mars.

    • @me_and_me_
      @me_and_me_ 4 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/Vpqffgak7To/v-deo.html

    • @pinehawk9600
      @pinehawk9600 4 роки тому +1

      They have plans on putting domes over the Apollo mission landing sites

    • @popcorn00109
      @popcorn00109 4 роки тому +1

      Pinehawk99 very coo!

  • @frederickjk3
    @frederickjk3 4 роки тому +201

    If they are speaking English, means they probably know a lot about us.

    • @birdy4life32
      @birdy4life32 4 роки тому +1

      Wdym?

    • @birdy4life32
      @birdy4life32 4 роки тому +1

      Aliens?

    • @princeosei6163
      @princeosei6163 4 роки тому +14

      Wouldn't it be funny if we found out that they actually speak several of our languages?

    • @birdy4life32
      @birdy4life32 4 роки тому +1

      @@princeosei6163 yes!

    • @pickachu9222
      @pickachu9222 4 роки тому +6

      Yaah. Just like Optimus prime learnt from World Wide Web in Transformers 1. 😂😂

  • @cheshirekat3050
    @cheshirekat3050 4 роки тому +49

    This is so awesome!
    A freaking helicopter on Mars, this time!
    And a mike!
    WHY did they have to end the conversation after only 18 minutes?!

    • @ejmtv3
      @ejmtv3 4 роки тому +4

      Yeah, I love how excited he sounded when he's talking about the MIC

    • @jburr6527
      @jburr6527 4 роки тому

      really fake bull

  • @melissawolf553
    @melissawolf553 4 роки тому +56

    So refreshing with all the drama happening on earth! I cannot wait to hear about what we discover on Mars!

    • @sagnorm1863
      @sagnorm1863 4 роки тому

      A malfunction with the landing procedure will have the rover crash land on the surface and be totaled. 2020.

    • @user-hk8yp7cw1v
      @user-hk8yp7cw1v 4 роки тому +1

      @@sagnorm1863 Hopefully all goes nominal...

    • @bobbobber4810
      @bobbobber4810 4 роки тому +8

      @@sagnorm1863 It will reach Mars in something like 7 months so
      it won't be 2020 anymore. Maybe the curse will be lifted and the
      rover will be saved.

  • @hunterashwill5766
    @hunterashwill5766 4 роки тому +21

    Yo I wasn't expecting him to be 6'4