American Reacts How French Health Care Compares To The US System
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As a French citizen, you have the feeling this system is free because you don't pay for what you need. You pay according to what you earn. For example, a child doesn't pay, a poor person doesn't either, someone who is sick with an expensive illness won't pay (for example, my mum had cancer then all the cancer treatments were free) ... Myself, as a man without money issue and children, I’ll pay more through my salary and my supplemental insurance (which is compulsory for every worker). It may not seem fair but one day, I might be ill, old or have an accident. I feel safe that’s the important part. And this system is not perfect since we tend to lose more and more coverage.
This! Merci frère
Why do Americans think everyone wants to live in USA.....no way. I am Scottish and I have a list of about 50 countries I would live in before the US
I bet England is about 200th if at all😂
@@splodge561 as a french, i don't hate USA at all, but i clearly don't wanna live in US. To visit, why not, but to live, never. If i had to do a travel for 1 week or more in a english speaker country, it's England first.
I know, it's weird, even decades ago, I knew a lot of people that didn't want to live in the US, over the last two decades, hardly anyone I know wants to live in the US and that's coming from the UK, which isn't exactly a good model when it comes to European standards of decency lol.
For me at least, the US just has too many problems that makes it unappealing.
As I got older and started to know more about the world, I don't even find the US that appealing to visit, apart from maybe New York or San Francisco, the rest of the US look more or less the same wherever you go, and honestly, looks kinda dull, especially when there's a big world out there of countries that offer so much choice.
Also, I think you're misunderstanding waiting times, in most cases, waiting time isn't an issue, but it's usually based on urgency, in other words, if you need urgent medical care, you're very likely going to get it right away, whereas if it's not urgent, waiting times can vary from country to country, depending on what issue you have, but usually the waiting time isn't that long.
I live in the UK, which is known to have bad waiting times, I've never had any issues with having to wait, usually it's just a few days, and in fact, my mum needed to go to the hospital about 2 weeks ago, there were no waiting times and she was in the hospital in just a matter of an hour or less from calling them, this is during winter when health care services get hit hard.
This doesn't mean there isn't any waiting times, but it really depends on the medical emergency and what the issue is and having been alive for 44 years, I've never had any issues with the NHS, which is quite surprising considering how the Tories are desperate to make the service as bad as they can lol.
Another factor we should remember is, how much we pay into the health care really depends on the earnings of that person, someone that is poor will pay very little if anything at all, whereas someone on the higher bracket will pay more, it depends on earnings, and that does feel like a fairer system, it covers all, even the ones that pay nothing in the system, also, because it's paid for like a tax, it doesn't feel like you're out of pocket and helps a lot with peace of mind.
Basically, we Europeans don't mind paying for health care because we see the benefits of that, in fact, just a few years ago in the UK, many Brits were find with paying more because the NHS was under funded, which it still is.
the islamic republic of scotland is not in your list i guess?
I'll tell you a simple story:
My second daughter was born with delayed cardiac formation, a country doctor in the south west of France realized this, 1 hour later she was in the hospital in Pau, realizing that the case was serious, an ambulance was called, a place on a plane was requisitioned for my daughter and me, two hours later I was in Paris where an ambulance and a motorcycle escort from the national police took us to the hospital Necker (Les enfants malades) where my 3-week-old daughter had emergency surgery.
It only cost me the plane ticket, without this health insurance I might not have had the means or the necessary organization to save my daughter.
So I never give up when I have to pay tax.
My son’s twin son had a similar - but by no means as serious - experience. He was in that hospital, taken by specialist ambulance with a doctor and nurse. Wonderful!
What many Americans seem to not understand: most Europeans don't mind paying those taxes. Taxes aren't evil, or a downside! They ensure peace of mind in daily life. They ensure freedom through more financial and social stability. You don't go broke just because you need heart surgery or want to go to university.
Yeah, it's always a misconception in the US that higher taxes are bad, in reality, higher taxes usually means wealth is more evenly distributed, whereas lower taxes means too much wealth ends up in fewer hands, whiles making life hard for the poor and middle classes in society.
Higher taxes are fine, as long as we know where the money is going too.
@@paul1979uk2000 It's because in the US, taxes aren't really used to benefit the US citizens, so they think paying taxes are bad and in their case it is.
If I was a Canadian or European citizen I would absolutely not mind paying taxes at all. You actually get something for your taxes there. Here in America paying taxes is kind of like being mugged. You'll do everything you can to not be mugged and if you can evade your taxes good on you you're not getting anything out of it anyway here.
Preventative means that in France, every adult is invited by the Social Security to have a FREE colon cancer detection test every 2 years, and every woman from age 50 onwards is invited to have a FREE breast cancer detection test every 2 years.
We can also have a full check-up every 5 years, FREE.
It's not mentioned that drugs too are either free or at a very reasonable copay.
About taxes, it's not really that "we don't know" but it's included in the global amount that we pay of which we don't realize how much goes into the healthcare system. But the Social Security is also partially funded by taxes on tobacco, alcool and gambling.
The same applies to free eucation that too is paid by the taxpayers, regardless of their having children or not. It's a mutualist system.
In France, if you are recognized as having a health problem that handicaps you in the long-term, you are eligible to be reimbursed by 100% of medical costs by la sécurité sociale for life or until you are cured. You also have access to financial aid, educational arrangements, professional arrangements and many other forms of help.
(you need the recommendation of a specialist to be able to claim all of it.)
I am Italian and I live on the island, and to be treated I have to take a plane, the health system reimburses me for the plane, train and taxi tickets, even for a companion who assists me and the treatments are free. as a worker I am happy to pay taxes
I'll give you an exemple. I'm french, turned 30 this december. In october of 2023 I noticed a small lump in the side of my neck. Got an apointment with my usual doctor, he prescribed blood tests, scanner, x-rays, I had a punction. I think I paid out of pocket around 120€, wich my complementary insurance reimbursed me. Turns out I have cold nodules that are not harmfull, but could become a problem in the future. I saw a surgeon this morning, planned a procedure, I'll have nothing to pay. Surgery, anesthesia, hospital stay, he garanteed me it would be covered by social security + my complementary insurance. I noticed the problem in late october, I'll get those tumors taken out in March, and I didn't hurry taking the appointments. That's relatively fast for a benine ailment.
Now let say I didn't go to the doctor, or to see that surgeon. In 15 years the tumors have grown twice the size, they're spreading in my thorax and become cancerous. Now it costs 10 times more to treat me, and my life expectency is drasticly reduced. As we say in France "mieux vaut prévenir que guerrir", better prevent than cure.
I have a ton of exemples about the French healthcare system, but one of them is relevant to your video. I'm French, wifey is American. From the day she set foot in France, she was 100% covered regarding her medical need. Before that she had a half arsed healthcare plan in America. Doctor visits, prescribed drugs, physical therapy, etc... She could not get half of that in the US. She was literally left to die in her country...
Edit: 13:42 What would you prefer? Getting bankrupted by your medical bills or pay (a little) more taxes but then nothing out of pocket? Plus French citizen are used to the system now. They know they are paying for healthcare through their taxes. All in all, it cost us less for a better service.
Above all, take into account that strangely US people do not take their premium insurance into account as a tax. Which means that even with a poor insurance, they pay a lot more.
Their government has really managed to make them believe that they pay little taxes..
THIS! Goverment propaganda is so effective in the U.S. Only thanks to the internet the younger generations are realizing somethings not right here. Anything that would use tax payers money to actually benefit the American people gets shut down with dumbass fearmongering propaganda. Affordable healthcare? No money for that what are you a communist? a filthy socialist that wants welfare? No money for that we need give billions to corporations as corporate welfare. Wait what? Yeah we stole 50trillion from the poor and working class since the 70's and of every $100 of welth generated in the U.S, $82 goes to the 1% But when you can't pay your bills you just have to perform the literally impossible task of pulling yourself up by your bootstraps. But when Bezos was worth (only) 18 Billion he applied for $4000 in goverment subsidies aka welfare for child care or some bullshit. because tax loopholes for the rich are legal. For the richest Nation on the planet the quality of life for regular Americans is damn pathetic. And what do they do about it while having all those guns? Nothing and they even are convinced that the way the American police behaves is normal behaviour for cops. Newsflash: It isn't! @@Kamonohashiii
12% in income taxes is not a little more in taxes. That's quite a lot and for those of us who don't get sick that often and don't have high medical costs, we would be getting the shittier end of the deal. I think it's better for America to expand Medicare for All to all citizens and replace the premiums we pay as the taxes to fund it.
@@esonon5210 with your insurance premium, you spend more on taxes than Europeans one.. And for almost nothing in return.
What's the point of paying for your insurance if you have to pay $100 the consultation, so you never go to see the doctor?
You think you're paying maybe less in taxes but at the end Americans still pay more than me, who has higher taxes than you.
Watch the video why America sucks at everything by the gravel institute. For me personally, my employer takes around 6% of my salary for healthcare. If I make 3000 a month I end up with around 2500 netto after taxes. I pay 124,- a month for my healthcare insurance premium and I never have to worry about any medical bill in my life. If I lose my job or get sick I get 90% of my last earned salary paid for staying home till im better or find a new job. Say I am on welfare wich is around 1200,- then premium of 124 is suddenly a lot so goverment gives to around 90,- each month to help pay for healthcare as it's obligated by law to have. rent is around 700,- here so thats also a lot when you only get 1200,- so the goverment steps in and gives you around 400,- each month to help pay your rent. All paid for by our taxes and no one cares. no one goes why do I have to pay for this lazy person on welfare because we all realize that stuff can happen to everyone and we all can end up in a bad situation. @@esonon5210
I'm french and work to the the national health insurance "Assurance Maladie" and I'm proud of that. It's a great idea, this system is found by Solidarity.
The ideaa is "Each one give what he can, and receive what he needs" -"Chacun cotise selon ses moyens et reçoit selon ses besoins"
It's perfect but some of people think with this system that every cares are free. But it's simply paid by solidarity and the society.
We are born with this system and peolple forget that it's a victory of our grand, grand parents after WW2. Before workers have insurance only if they work in Mines, iron Industries. A lot of hospitals have been buit by Michelin, Pont a Mousson, Saint gobain fot their workers.
It's a communist Ambroise Croisat and Pierre laroque (Démocrate) who work together to create "Sécurité sociale". Two men so politicaly different for a good idea...
Life cost is easy to calculate :
- France : Hi tax (50% average) but free health system, unemployement aid & free or reasonable high school cost. So you don't have to stress too much for life alea.
- America : Medium tax (30% average) but you have to take an insurance for everything, you do not receive aid if you are fired, if you want to go to high school you have to take a big loan that takes 10 years to repay. Once you start to work, you're under pressure for mostly everything.
The true is you cannot compare a 200 K$ income in the US with 200K€ income in Europe (including doctor revenue in this video).
It's a different way of life.
American GDP is a air bubble. If you remove high and non "productive" revenue from lawer, doctor, insurrance, bank, etc... it's a very different story.
The basic difference is one system is based on not for profit & the welfare of its citizens the other is to squeeze every last penny from its citizens regardless of the social & welfare outcome.
ahahah american thinking, trying to gain more money by studying in Europe and working in america. Well for us money isn't everything !
Exactly. From Connor's reaction you get the feeling that American doctors (and presumably surgeons and nurses and everybody else in the healthcare business) chose that profession to get rich. Whereas in other countries people who took a job in healthcare did it to save lives and make people healthy - sure, the financial reward is there, but they take the Hippocratic Oath for a reason. So, why would foreign doctors all be swarming to America so they can make double their salary? When the healthcare business in the US is just that - a business. And more people are dying, more people are getting sick, more people have crap diets and take no exercise and suffer from obesity, and the cost of living and the likelihood of getting shot on the streets is so much higher in the US than elsewhere. Making the most amount of money you can is not the be-all and end-all for citizens of pretty much every country in the world except America. Having a good quality of life is more important for most people. And he doesn't seem to understand that.
In my country the highest paid job in healthcare would be the medical specialists, they start with 7k a month and end up with max 11.500k a month.
Wich is a lot of money here. It's on par with the Prime minister's salary and can even be more sometimes. It's a lot of money but it's not crazy money like in the U.S.
In the U.S I see dentists being gaziljonairs.. heck the other day a vid popped about some woman having a 50million wedding and where did that money come from? daddy was a cardealer. I'm like what the hell. Most cardealers here are happy if they make a million after few decades. The U.S has lost the plot. People are suffering and working 2 or 3 jobs to pay the bills yet people also sitting on 180BILLION who buy ten yachts and spend 85million on an appartment... Richest person from my country is the daughter of Heineken. she has like 17billion and thats from selling beer worldwide for over 100years.. for 6million you can by a freaking castle here and the most expensive home in our country is like 30million..But everyone has affordable healthcare and education and theres strong social safety nets. But for some reason brainwashed U.S.A thinks using taxpayers money to actually benefit them is BAD but using taxpayers money for corporate welfare and the militairy is GOOD. @@AndrewBroadhead-kb7oc
Yep, that's a very American perspective, and I'm sure some Europeans feel that way, but we Europeans tend to value quality of life over money, just as long as you are getting enough money to have a decent quality of life, it really doesn't matter beyond that, but clearly, in the US, money is the gold standard that seems to matter above everything else.
With that, I don't blame Conner for thinking like that, after all, he's been conditioned to think like that by living in a system that conditioned people to think that way, Europeans tend to have more self-worth when it comes to quality, and this is the case across all sectors of life.
As a french citizen, we know this system is financed by our taxes, and we are ok with this. It benefits to everyone.
My parents were poor, so they didn't pay taxes. But thanks to this system we didn't pay for healthcare, and I could study for Free. Thanks to that now, I have a nice job and a decent salary. And yes now as an adult I pay taxes. But I know this can help other people and even myself if one day I am in a bad situation (loosing my job, having an accident etc...). I benefited from this system, now it's normal for me to contribute as I have a good salary. It's simple, the wealthiest people help the less fortunate ones. Because, we don't know, maybe one day we can become the less fortunate one.
Anyway, if we didn't have this system with free education and healthcare, I would probably be jobless and in a very bad health condition right know.
So, I don't mind to pay taxes as long as they are used for people (Education and Healthcare System).
I'm french , i can confirm that even if we pay a tax for social security ( a small % on our revenue ) , it's still much cheaper than in USA . And it's now an obligation for the compagny who hires us to add a private complementary health care to pay for the 30% not covered by social security. Everyone pays it , and if you're not ill , you pay for the rest of the society, but if you're ill , even cancer , organ transplants etc. are fully covered.
Our health system goal is to HEAL , not to make money. And having a country that cares more about people than making big money on illness is something you should seek.
The current American life expectancy is now 76.4 years and dropping while other modern countries are rising. Canada’s is currently 83.11 and going up. The difference has to be the Health Care System and the food. The U S has so much food banned in all kinds of countries due to the dangerous additives, chemical preservatives, steroids, growth hormones, genetically modified produce. I’m surprised American life expectancy Isn’t 45!
The primary difference is poverty. Native Americans average 67 years, African Americans 73 years. This compares to a national average of 77.5 (for 2022). In summary, the wealthier you are the longer you live.
@@cygnusx-3217 We have poverty as well especially among our First Nation and Inuit peoples, but we are all covered by our universal health care system, it is not affecting our life expectancy. We can’t even drink American milk in Canada because it’s banned. I think Americans should be demanding their FDA do a proper job and go after those who are more interested in making a Buck than keeping people healthy
Access to specialist care when you need it in France is generally pretty fast, that is quite accurate in the video.
I confirm that there is little or no waiting time in France, unlike the NHS in the UK. In fact, before Brexit, a lot of people came to France from the UK for treatment when they got tired of waiting. Back then, they NHS paid their French hospital bills, which saved them money.
If you guys are paying 12% in taxes for this the healthcare better be top tier.
As a French to put it very simply, here patients are not a business compared to how it seems to be ruining some people lives' in the US while being detrimental to said patients even on a pure medical concern
I had/have a lot of health issues and already got more out of my insurance than I paid in thanks to everyone contributing to it. I would be broke if I live in the US. Our health care is as "free" as police or fire fighters. There are calculations (you once watched a video about that from the Gravel Institute) that Americans get cut 43% out of their paycheck if you include all expenses our European tax models already include. I only pay 32% and have "free" health care, "free" education etc.
I'm going out on a limb here and say the reason the USA doesn't have socialised medical care is that they don't give a stuff about their sick and would rather make a buck. Sorry. If I didn't have the NHS I would now be dead.
😢 Me too! ...am currently (recently - 2 weeks ago) prescribed Warfarin as my kidneys were not filtering the more modern blood thinners I had been taking - I've two congested blood vessels close to my heart and lungs, have failing kidneys and AF (Atrial Fibrillation) which means I'm at the age that I could easily have a stroke - I was 70 last year - so I'm now having _weekly_ blood tests to ensure my Warfarin dose is adequate for my needs, and not causing unnecessary / dangerous internal bleeds etc.
❤Without the NHS, I'd never have even made it to _this_ stage, & that's a fact.❤
US has FOR-PROFIT healthcare.
Think about that for a moment.
Business that makes profit of others being sick.
I'm French with chronic asthma since i was 12, and i am so glad that our system works in a way that i don't have to pay for all my treatments.
Your fellow citizens are probably for the most part unaware of how healthcare works in other countries , if they knew maybe they would take to the streets and demand change . But i do think most in the u.s are more geared towards the rights of the individual rather than the support / help for the collective . 😊
Preventative care is regular checkups, screenings- think of it like this, healthcare vs sick care.
Just a note from a french guy about the earning of médical professionals, they don't have a 1 million loan to pay to study médicine in France when they graduate after 5-8-12 years of studies 😊
Connor if the USA had access to some sort of socialised healthcare as most of the rest of the developed world has, the waiting lists would be the same as anywhere else that has socialised medicine. As fewer people in America get medical care when needed they aren't on waiting lists for treatments. That gives the impression that the downside of socialised helathcare are waiting lists compared to American no waiting lists, its an unfair comparison.
In fact, we DO need to consult a generalist to go to a specialist doctor (except dentist, dermatologist, gynaecologist essentially). However, debats exist on the subject because some regions are experiencing difficulties with "medical deserts".
Ten years ago, did your uncle use up most of his savings in hospital, which he could have left to his family ???
My French French teacher used t say while much was technically free or largely reimbursed you had to fill in lots of deliberately long and complex forms so those with reasonable amounts of money couldn't be bothered, which implies the costs are fairly low.
One plus of the US system you guys know far more about tests such as bloods than UK patients do
Your French French teacher lied to you.
This is not true. Since we have carte vitale (about 15/20 years) there is no paperwork anyway.
Du n'importe quoi ! Votre professeur de français vous a raconté n'importe quoi !
French ? Sounds to me like she was pretending to be French or maybe she hasn't step foot in France since World War II... Any French from France will tell you it's complete bs...
7:40 I can well imagine that this is in the interests of the pharmaceutical companies.
Earn a few 100 dollars before treatment or a huge profit of 30,000 dollars a little later.
I think the USA needs universal insurance. But at the same time that would only work if the government regulates the costs. It must not be designed for profit, otherwise it will become unaffordable universal insurance
French system covers not only the citizens, but also the people who are not citizens. if a tourist gets sick, he gets a treatment, and if a immigrant gets sick, he gets a treatment.
it is not fully true that there is no waiting list. for the big things you have to take an appointment and sometimes the docs are highly booked and you can wait quite some time. but when it is urgent, there is always a way.
For example if you need an MRI, i can be up to 2-3 month. but if there is an emergency, the specialist´s secretary will take the appointment for you, state that it is an emergency and you get it within a few hours.
but when you get the job in the US, you have to pay the expensive health care and all the expensive other things in the US. you can live really well in france with 110k euros a year.
I am french and i can say one thing ...we don't pay 3000€ per years ...the french healthcare on average it's cost 700€ per year if we pay a assurance and if we have a small salary we can subscribe to the CMU for example I pay 8 euros per month for healthcare
@Type Ashton made great research videos about HC US vs. EU/Germany
Because of your military budget.
13:08 for some ppl in France (a low %) its litteraly 0 euros per year and 0 euros for see a doctor etc ... But you can "profit" of it only if u rly dont "gain" money (you cant work because u havebig health issue etc)
Yours will never change
About the french doctor's salary compared to an american one, I wonder if that's so different considering that the french doctor has already paid his income tax and his social charges when his/her bank account is effectively credited. The social charges are paid by the doctor and his/her employer to fund the healthcare insurance system, the pension system for retirees, the unemployement benefits... All in all the gross salary is about the double than the net salary that the french doctor gets. How much of his/her salary does the american doctor pay for healthcare insurance, for preparing his/her retirement, etc. ?
I want everyone to have health care because one day I will be one of those people who need it.
How to acheive it is the problem, if there is planning and a single payer then you can get the costs down.
If you have comercial competition then you will have duplication of simple services and under serving and over charging of complex services.
Goverments are of, for and by the people. Dont forget the 'for' bit.
Sorry but we're not dumb, we know exactly what are taxes are for. What we like is that we don't have to pay much, if anything out of pocket, on top of what was paid through taxes, and mutuelles when we're sick, and as a result that we're never going to lose our homes or go bankrupt because we may be sick. Maybe the average joe is less wealthy than in the US (especially states which don't have state income taxes) but I rather be less wealthy and never fear of not affording medical care and losing my home rather than have a bigger paycheck and not knowing if I could afford a hospital stay or my meds despite the net pay gap.
All the money paid by a company for health inssurance is money you don't earn directly.
But we should concider this as "inderct salary" you will benefit for free for all public services.
Pay what you can receive what you need !
I had cancer 5 years, was cured and paid 0 euro
The fact that, in France, we pay more taxes on our salary is the reason for which we are more encline to go preventively to the Doctors and then have a better Life and a better chance to not have a more important or a fatal disease. Let apart your american way of thinking and try to think as a neutrl human... In France, a french worker receives his salary, but all taxes have ALREADY taken and 2/3 of the taxes are paid by the employer... Then if you want, you take a little private supplemental mutual insurance, which will cost you let say, 80€ (85 $) a month by adult and far less by kid you have, to be fully or almost fully covered... Then at the very first pain, even a small one, the french go to see the doctors, he gives his vital card and pay 25€, 3 days later, the gov pay back 24 €... finally, it costed him 1 €. Reasonable. For the french he will feel he hasn't paid anything and as he know that before going to the doctors, he won't hesitate to go. It's natural. it's than a paying system, but more efficient and more of all far less costing than american one : 10k+ $ a year per capita in USA and 4,9K a year per capita in France... I am not a super mathematician, but I think it's better. am I wrong ? I do envy many things in USA (and love this country) but certainly not her healthcare system, even some 1/3 world country have a better healthcare system, a better "medical justice".
Life is a Right and it is written in the french constitution. therefore, it has to be ruled by an elected government and not by greedy firms. I do considere that Life can't enter in the "competition thing", it's not about economy, Life is not a game.
Oh, and as the report forgot to speak about very poors : in France, very poors pay NOTHING, not even a dollar. It's full covered. The system in france is also based on the "solidarity" and no one is above the other because he is richer. Equality is a word with a true meaning in France when it's about health and Life.
I have visited most of Europe (and even lived 5 years in Germany), USA (Colorado, NYC), UK (I put them out of continetal europe), Africa, Indian ocean (lived 6 months in french isles there)... In my experience and my humble opinion, US healthcare is the worst and the most unequal/unjust system. Even Obamacare was a joke compared to the UK NHS. most of european healthcare are on the same model : france, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, very very near the same. some differences, but a constant : all equal in front of illness and all an equal chance to survive, and this for a far cheaper fee than in USA.
Normally, the system of competition should benefit to the "customers", but in USA clearly, it's not the case, all insurances cheats to make you pay more than it should because they have understood that you won't refuse to pay if your life is in the balance. Can soemone teach Americans that a human with illness or diesease is NOT a customer, he's a PATIENT !
Lower Salaries in France or ok because the cost of living is lower it is all relative. If they moved to the US they would have a much higher cost of living hence the higher salaries.
If you get this you will understand :
In france everyone who makes laws or create sometihing makes it from the user perpective not the enterprise that provide the service .
the health care cost a lot in france but its a general taxe for the country , poor dont pay tax in fact there is a rule for everything in france if you cant afford a basic right its free for you no matter who you are .
so no taxes for poor but still free healthcare and the 30% you have to pay with assurance is covered = 0 to pay
if you are wealthy you pay and insurance like 200 euro a year for thoses 30% ,but you can afford it !
and all the country on all subject is like this
you are rich we tax you you are poor we dont = rich still rich , poor are helped and can become middle class citizens .
so yes why wanting to become rich in a country where everyone has everything he wants : just for the luxury the prestige the fame the easy life etc ... but to survive you need nothing its a right .
right are meant to remove inequality , benefits are reward to hide the lack of empathy you have for everyone to benefit only some people .
USA JAS MORE COMPETITION AS SUCH BUT IS MOST EXPENSIVE, THIS SAYS THAT PRIVATE DOESNT WORK
Money, its always money.
USA is all about making money one thing is missing here : Think about the stress and fear of being ill in USA. Peace of mind is perhaps the main factor to live longer. Happyness isn't money. But USA is killing the planet with global warming, they just don't care as long as they have a big car and fly planes all year long.
I've said it before and i'll say it again $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
While the french system has its drowback (like any goverment run agency, i'm talking about forms to fill in) it provide, like others commented, some peace of mind.
Two personnal stories to illustrate :
Had a e-bike accident, pick up by the firefighters (sapeurs pompiers de Paris), diagnosed with a shattered elbow and forearm. On the operating table to install a prosthetic elbow in the next 48h, released 36h later in time for christmas eve. My healthcare "rights" were nill (because after one of the many reform you have to proactively punch in you healthcare card and i forgot) so i had to pay the total bill (8K). Quite reasonable compared to the US where the same procedure and hospital stay would have banckrupt me.
And i could get a total refund after i punch back into the system.
Before that my late mother was diagnosed with cancer. Her 1st treatment started the week after her diagnosis and it was arranged to take place at her local hospital instead of the regional one, 100km away from her home, which had the specialized service (meaning the drugs were sent from one hospital to the other). Everything from medical procedures, transport, homecare and medicalized bed installed at her home with oxygen system was covered with minimal co-pay (mandatory 1euro on some doctor visit and what not). When she passed away there was no outstanding medical bill which could have jeopardized me or my brother financial future.
What's not to like in that, even if it means higher taxes rate.
Technical competence of French doctors us said to be high.
How compare a Ferrari and a wrecked scooter ?! In the land of "freedom", you're "free" to die in the street with no help....
you don t get a medical study in germany, exept if you have 0.8 average, 1-6 are notes you have to make beter then 1 on every note its not impossibel every not has a degree so if you have a 1, its acturly -1 1 +1 so you have to get a note of +1 , so if you wan t to be a doctor you have to be great
About drawbacks...:
Ofcourse there are, but not the ones you think of... Our system in EU are all very vulnereble for corruption. In the US there arent really any risk of that, because in the US it will be considered "good marketing strategy"...
The reason wiating for treatment arent one of the drawbacks are the one you already noticed... Since people catch theire illnes at an early state, we can treat them faster, hence not creating a waiting line in the first place... That said, for some common and/or smaller cases there will be some waiting... Just dont break a leg on an icy road in the winter when everybody else breaks theires... :P
The true drawback is that for the EU way to work, there must be a certain level of trust between citizen and state. As a citizen I have to feel my extremely high taxes gives me something in return, so the healthcare *has* to work. If this is not the case, the system will either be threatened, or used as a political weapon in the political debate...which is rather tiresome...
The other drawback is that when doctors and hospitals can send a bill to the state for a certain patient, theres always a risk the doctor decides to add a little extra to the bill...The patient will never know, and doesnt care since the patient isnt the one to pay. And the state will never know, since they werent there when the patient was treated.
So honesty is important, and the state will do well to have a cleaver way of controling that the bills they pay, is legit.
My son and his family live in France. No healthcare system is perfect but French healthcare is up there with the best.
Qualify in Europe and then practise medicine in the USA: brain drain.
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I guess that US Health Care system was much more efficient 50 years ago but the destruction of the public health system to allow the financialization of all sectors (private insurance, private hospitals, training costs for doctors...) caused costs explosion to guarantee the profitability of all. And as the system was more and more expensive, users did not hesitate to take doctors to court, which forces them to take out extremely expensive legal insurance, which further increased the cost of consultations. And finally, thanks to corruption and lobbying activities, pharmaceutical laboratories are free to set their prices and make monstrous margins even on basic drugs (that's why US citizens go to Mexico or Canada to buy drugs). At the end, the system is very selective for American citizens and many of them are not able to pay for a doctor or drugs. That explains the shortest life expectency (poor food hygiene is the other cause). Unfortunately, the European Union is under the influence of these same evil financial lobbies and Public Health Care system are in the process of collapsing through sabotage actions in the economic and human management of health systems. France is no exception and I bet the French healthcare system will look like the actual American system in 20 years. Some specific sectors must be managed honnestly by the governement, not by the private sector: the police, the army, justice, education and Health Care (and energy, especially for nuclear plants). In France we pay a lot of taxes but schools are nearly free (even universities or medecine school) and everybody (rich or poor) was able to benefit a qualitative medecine.Unfortunately, for 20 years, there has been a strong political will to destroy health care to allow financiers (often Anglo-Saxon) to do business with our health. Nowadays, every month we hear about patients dying in the corridors of a hospital due to lack of care. This unacceptable situation had never occurred before 2020
It about who is the upper hand and its sober. It also make the level as a demand. And why? Its tax driven. By that is effective.
So the state own the system BUT most things are outsourced down to toiletpaper.
If You go outside the hospital system the doctors there fx order a Lantussolo star pen. You buy it in a seperat phamacy. But that has 4-5 exact copy producf. They also give You the cheepest version of today unless You insist. its live at their computer. The prices is added money fra the state and there is a max level for medicine for pr person (You add fx for diabes and heart medcation).
If You are retitred all medicine is free over they level - as I recall it - of 350 dollars a year.
If You are patient in a hosptail, they pay all medicine and until 48 hours at home. They have You online from You doctor and when You leave thet local doctor get the updated list.
last time they drove me home. I could not walk. They gave descent food for 24 hours, a big orange juice and banana and an apple. That was free too.
THE POINT IS No Stocholder. Here doctors in the public and sate sector are controlled. They are paid after level and almost never for dirty greeding hands. BECAUSE THEY MAKE NO BILLS.
French healthcare system is known as the best healthcare system in the world even by UNESCO and French people including me we are so lucky to have it. I’ve lived in USA for 2years some years ago which definitely made me realize it as I have so many health problems which was so expensive and in France I’m covered 100% between Assurances Maladie and my health insurance which only cost me 9€ per month. And that included a hospitalization in a private hospital. I’m so angry to see some of my fellow countrymen criticizing their best healthcare sometimes online which I see as one of the best privileges we have as French citizens. They all should definitely move out to USA and experience their money grabbing murdering medical system. It’s a shameful system just like everything made in US of A where you have money or die. So my fellow countrymen stop your mellow drama nonsense just appreciate this gem we have gained
In the USA it's the law of the jungle ...
Capitalism in all its glory. I am french and have been living in the US for about 10 years now but I would gladly pay more taxes to get the system we have back in France than paying for private health issurance here for no better care. Also, french people now we pay more taxes for social benefit.
Hello Sir,
That's a lie, we maybe pay more than you in reality : The french government catch at least 250 euros each month on your salary, that's 3,000 euros a year, but no one is that much ill...
It's '' give me a big brand new Mercedes each month and so i'll give for free an old Volkswagen once per year''...
Remember what Bob Marley said : ''Politicians don't lie only when they treat each other of liars''...
It's a matter of mentality in France healthcare is a right and as far as equality is a main rule of our constitution, no one should be out of the system. If you let the problem driven by business and capitalism you have many chances not to reach the goal. Anyway Trump gives you the answer medicare is a cancer for his wallet not for yourse.
No healthcare system is perfect. Its just what problems you can live with.
I hear you're a Communist now Connor. Welcome to the dark side.👹😂
The French health care system isn't great, there are often strikes from the medical professionals. And the "no waiting list" is a crazy argument as in fact we often have to wait much more than Americans for an appointment or in an Emergency room. When I learned that you could get an appointment for an x-ray within a few days, I was mind-blown. Here, it is pretty normal to wait for weeks if not months to get an appointment, especially for specialized services. I had to wait 5 months for an eye check up for example.
As in every socialized sector, we have shortages. Because we have bad incentives. The fact that as a patient a lot of medical procedures are cheap/"free", it makes people abuse too much of the system. And the more people, the more costly it is. While in a free market, suppliers are happy because it means more profit and they can invest more to adapt to the demand. It is also true for drugs, thanks to price controls in that sector, we are getting more and more shortages. To come back to medical procedures like in Hospitals, the system is crazy. Although we already have a shortage of doctors, illegal migrants get free health care ! As we already have mass immigration, it encourages them to come more numerous and abuse the system for non-emergencies. A great recipe to increase shortages and suck in limited hospital budgets toward them. Without even taking into account security risks and hygienic ones. No wonder despite the significant increase in funding, public hospitals are close to collapse. And as you can imagine medical professionals are paid much less than in the USA. Nurses get a fraction of their American counterpart for example.
Most French people are still delusional on our Health care system and more globally about "social security" (which encompasses much more than Health Care). Like in the UK and their shitty NHS (sorry brits) that they sacralise. But things slowly start to change as the system collapses and even more in the expat community. People who have experienced other Health Care systems tend to sacralise much less the "social security". They know that you don't need to sell your kidney, your house and your family to get treated or that Health care is of lesser quality elsewhere.
The American health care system's main weakness, on the other hand, is the cost. But as far as I know the poorest are taken charge of and most Americans have insurance. Low-middle class people without an insurance are the real losers in your system. But don't forget that the American system is also socialized. It is a big part of why it is expensive. Since the introduction of the "Obamacare" for example (AFFORDABLE Care Act) health care costs have exploded in your country.
So does France have private health insurance so citizens who pay for it can avoid the issues you pointed out?
As an Argentinian I have heard your argument a lot, but in "riverplatense" Spanish. And then an "outsider libertarian" who glorifies the military dictatorship of the 70s and it's eliminating basic human rights that you wouldn't want to lose, like retirement pension after a life of work, by decree and pretends to adquire special powers to delete the Congress, and will put in danger rivers, forests and glaciars, won the democratic elections. I'm not surprised, the agrarian demands that are being made in Europe have speeches copied from those we have been hearing here, although the economies are impossible to compare; a farmer from a rich and industrialized European country with the same speech as a South American country in default. Almost as if it was...prearranged? I'm in my 50's and I've been watching the consequences of dismantle in pieces the public education and the public healthcare to sell them to the best bidder and I don't reccommend it. My personal experience with private healthcare: My big brother, engineer, after his 30's he had brain cancer in two times. My mother, an accounting manager, died at 70 years old with her only house being auction because of the medical debts. 8 months after that my father a french located in Argentina in the 50's, also an engineer, had a heart disease and died at 77 years old without being able to buy a heart valve. And I was left alive to keep paying the medical debts, I may last some 10 years more till my body can't stand it. I understand this is an extreme situation. But it isn't necessary to live this so private healthcare financially ruins a person, it only takes to that person not being able to work for a while. I say it again: I don't reccomend it.
Again if all of this is so great then why do people who live in countries with public healthcare still pay for private insurance? UHC is obviously not perfect if people need to do this,@@LaPilusa