MRZR: Royal Marines Learn To Drive Light Strike Vehicle!
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- Опубліковано 7 жов 2024
- Royal Marines are testing a light strike vehicle to take recce groups, snipers or heavy weapons teams deep into enemy territory.
The Commando Force is working on the agility of the MRZR D4 and its ability to deploy smaller teams.
Briohny Williams explains.
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Razors are awesome. We've operated them nay times. We have also had the Polaris General which is very comparable. Amazing mobility assets that will go almost anywhere.
Yeah I personally always felt safer in such vehicles but in my days it was the side by sides being used by the US, I was a JTAC so I found myself on some very interesting ops. It just felt better being in the open & If needed u can easily jump in & out of them. In various MRAP”s i just felt closed in a sweaty slow hot box just waiting for an IED or a TIC to kickoff. In such situations I felt I didn’t have much of a feeling what was going on & when you get out it took a moment to get ur bearings so to spk so I would take something like a Razor to go to war in any day. Glad we are keeping up our edge on our enemies.
That looks so much fun to drive.
After the transition from the Iraq n Afghan wars the future commando force program would seem like the most attractive prospect if i was a young lad looking to join the armed forces
Wish I was 21 again.
Or woman.
@@jon1801 he’s clearly talking about if he was a YOUNG lad it ain’t about gender he ain’t gonna say if he was a young woman is he he’s talking about himself a man! Shut up with your feminist ideals kill all men, women are stronger etc let him speak in peace without having to say women can do the same things!
@@DTG-classified well said
@@DTG-classified like picking up an injured man an running with him, or same on ship up ladders
Learning from the Bravo Two Zero experience where the 8 man team were compromised while on mission deep behind enemy lines, these vehicles would be a game changer if the same 8 man team had these vehicles which would help them in making quick getaway and to carry their heavy bergens.
DPVs and Pinkies existed at the time, McNabb refused to use them, got most of his team killed including leaving a man behind and then blamed other people for his problems.
@@manticore4952 You’ve got a point there about using Land Rovers. The Pathfinder Platoon had a mission in Southern Iraq during OIF.
After driving past US lines north of Nasiriyah, the 3-vehicles 9-men PFP team were tracked by Iraqis before being attacked along the road while on the way to their objective. Their Pinkies were bristling with .50 cals and GPMGs. They fought their way back to Nasiriyah without suffering any casualties. Had they been on foot, the outcome would have been very much different.
Quite right - although McNab could have taken Defender 90's but he scorned them because they were not 110's and too small!
I bet, if David Stirling was in that hanger, he would have preferred the 90 because: (1) it's easier to conceal, (2) looks a bit like the UAZ jeeps, the Iraqis were using and (3) better than nothing...
Bravo Three Zero took Land Rovers (also scorning the 90)...
Check out a channel called Matts Off Road Recovery to see how fragile RZR's are. They're the lifeblood of his business.
Recall seeing Longline and Saker LSV's being played with at Braunton Burrows too whilst on Ex there. We loved the sand so much, we all wished we'd brought buckets and spades ...
Rubber band transmission from the 70s.
It hates heat and stress and especially water.
Needs a direct drive DCT transmission with durable shaft drive.
Military vehicles have gone full circle, they replaced Soft skin vehicles with armoured vehicles weighing 5 tons or more now they’ve effectively gone back to the Willys jeep of WW2 SAS fame !
These are completely different to Willies jeeps in every single way. These are essentially a better version of the DPV, higher up so you don't get hurt but with the same speed and manoeuvrability.
@@manticore4952 , Yes very different to the Willys but the same in principle, light weight, high mobility, low profile fast in and fast out vehicle.
Rat Patrol all over again
Thankyou America 🤝🏻❤🤝🏻
A platform the MOD can build off. I’d imagine they’d be looking heavily into integrating an electric motor to it so it’s not loud approaching their target.
So much advancements have been made recently with electric motors , allowing less area and weight a battery is taking up on their vehicles.
Except electric batteries are terrible off roading you lose about 80 percent of your efficency cause your driving slow on ruuged terrain on heavy tires. Aero dynamics and tarmach make electric cars effiecient. Off roading does not.
Take the new hybrid Jeep 4 xE. it can go up to 27 miles on the hughway on just the battery. It gets barely 4 miles on an offroad trail.
@@loganholmberg2295 I'm going to be generous and think they might be suggesting a hybrid with a battery only for the last mile or so.
But even then, said battery would add considerable weight.
@@loganholmberg2295 You don’t need the battery to last 30 miles. Your not gonna hear a Diesel engine from a mile away. Switch to electric approaching your target , I’m sure there would be means and ways on charging the battery on the go too , ie braking.
Australia's new Hawkei light recon vehicle has a big battery both to travel the last 2 miles & also operate all the electronic gear on board without the motor running. Big batteries are now essential. And those things weigh 7 tons.
You actually can't hear these until they're about 100-200ms away.
All terrain golf buggies
it's exhausting to ride an UTV on the beach.
I couldn't agree more.
it requires a special kind of people to accomplish such a strenuous task.
😂😂😂😂
Yeah thats what I thought too. 😅 We start driving these or ATVs at 8 wear I'm from. Its a hoot.
“Same size as Wales, the country” 😂😂😂
Not funny try another joke
Well it made me laugh 😂
@Arthur Humphreys and?
Looks fun
Love it
for covert ops, yes i suppose. If carrying special gear near the target, which otherwise a more direct HALO won't be advisable. In a full scale war, can be helpful for near distance material replenishments i think, where the humvee equivalent can't go. But obviously makes for easy picking in hostile territory and ambush zones.
Good job keep it up one love
The US marines gave it to our Canadian recce units
I’m glad he cleared up he was referencing the country Wales and not the mammal.
Good luck at Irwin, very hot and very dry
I would like one
Hopefully, they come equipped with Netflix so when they break the guys have something to do.
looks like the long range desert group is back
"Lightweight mobility asset". He means a vehicle.
this just reminds me of the mini moke
Note: Not to be used as reliable cover.
Militarised golf buggy’s
More or less vut they are Very capable.
1:46 Ooh ladies just keep off car they were meant for you " Each wheel can move freely due to Independent suspension system" hahhaha
Rang rover defender : look how much power they need to mimic fraction of my power
Side by Sides are waaay more capable than Defenders. You can have one in Canada for as little as 8K cdn and they are much lighter plus have the suspension and ATV tires to go much faster on off road terrain. Hell we take them through muskeg and bogs here you'd never take anything short of a Russian Sherp here. Plus they are almost as narrow as an ATV making them much more nimble on offroad tracks and in trees.
Defenders cannot go to half the places a RZR can go.
@@jiminy82 modified ones can
Mr Blackburn we can see you and hear you
EYES ON
4:19 that was decent drift 🙌🏻😂🇬🇧
Thought that was Braunton Burrows, lived in Barnstaple for years. Great part of the country.
Needs bigger wheels or more guys to push it when it gets stuck.
I bet they not half had some fun doing this. Like the lanny but better
Should have bought the last lot of diesel suzuki Jimnys. Trick em and they are unstoppable.
Looks a bit like a golf car. 😀
Yes but you can take them most everywhere very fast. Just look up off road side by side videos in North America to see how they are probably the most off road capable vehicle short of a Russian Sherp. Of couse a Russian sherp can cost around 150k while you can get a side by side for as little as 8-10k.
@@loganholmberg2295 i know. I was just kidding.
It is functional and pragmatic. The lightweight air mobility is its greatest advantage.
The German army has a similar vehicle: a two-man mini tank. It also looks funny. But it is light enough to be easily air lifted for quick armor and firepower support.
Do the SAS already use this mobility platform? And if so, why not get their feedback as well?
The SAS and SBS will be moving into other roles. RMC and the new Ranger Brigade will essentially fill out the previous mid to high tier roles the SAS/SBS would usually focus on.
@@BroadHobbyProjects Thanks for the answer.
@@sfoeric No probs. Just a big military buff so I read & soak up all information when available.
Britain's trying to focus on battalion/Brigade level ops with higher tier and advanced tech equipped troops it seems.
Much faster to move around, to focus at particular points to cause large amounts of damage/casualties and then fall back.
So in essnee, very fit, highly skilled guerilla forces using high end kit complimented with unmanned assests.
Perfect forces to cope with a skilled & equipped opponent with much larger force numbers available against them. Ie China
No protection from the elements or exposure. Only suitable for temperate climates, beaches and nice sunny days 😎
They are infinitely configurable. Fully enclosed with heat and a/c is pretty standard stuff for the civilian versions.
You can add camo netting to the top.
Does it come in black? If so I'll take 2. 🖤
weapons mounted ? individual weapons plus additional support weapons , ammo, drones , radio, , platoon stores , rations , water , Burgan's , cam nets, vehicle spares etc and last, spare fuel, the real test ? ,
These are being used in full kit mode by the Welsh Cavalry in the USA - Exercise Rattlesnake.
@@1chish Yeah plus you don't learn to drive a vehicle maxed out. You want to learn it bare and then loaded to get a better understanding of how it handles off road,
Little wheels.
It looks like we turning our army in to a guerilla warfare specialist army.
Almost every single comment from Negative Nancies. Listen to what the operators say, if its good, its good.
KALIFORNIA! You're gonna get mugged!
change the dessert color to green. i have a feeling this wouldn’t be used in a dessert sand environment but in green soon….
However, that being said, not every terrain or environment will allow you to have that kind of mobility.
Yeah bogs and swamp and bad sand. Thats about it. check out North American side by side videos to see how capable they really can be.
@@loganholmberg2295 I don’t think you know what I meant, but okay
They are loud so not exactly sneaky beaky enemy will hear them coming miles away
Actually, they can be made significantly queter for SOF use. That and they would only be used to get within a certain distance, after which it's shanks pony for the close recce. . The nice thing is they can be fitted with heavy weaponry and are heli-portable, whch means a fire base can be set up in no time flat or a long-distance patrol can become very long distance..
There's always a better model in the works.
They are generally loud only because civilian offroaders like them loud. You can make them fairly quit with a good muffler.
I wonder if electric would be a way forward in the future then as that would be proper quiet but might increase weight. I’m sure they are experimenting with it.
Even if they hear you it doesn't mean they have sufficient time to get into a suitable spot to stop you.
They might also be around moving tanks and trucks that will stop them from hearing you.
An effective defense also has to go up and down a command chain. Which is a lot slower.
Big mistake keep the land rover its world wide . Especially if you have to salvage another Landover to keep you going while behind the lines what happens when you need a part all the way from manufacturer how will you get it to said troops
I have a question, doesn't it need armour to protect from bullets, or land mines?
No as they are not gonna be used in patrols they are used when you are in the middle off nowhere and no one knows your there
These are for going into areas that the enemy doesn't expect you to be in.
Roads and flat areas are easy to lay mines on as they are predictable paths. These are in part get around mines through areas that aren't worth mining.
they should try them in the western desert of EGYPT were the desert rats operated before in 1942 - aslo they need to carry extra 2 or 3 tiers or auto inflator liquids
An off-road vehicle... Why are the wheels so small?
Low profile (height)?
@@Surv1ve_Thrive No, I meant that it is a well-known fact that larger wheels are better at crossing uneven surfaces, so (leaving the tyre profile out of it for a moment) why is the overall wheel+tyre such a small radius?
@@severs1966 well my answer, my humble opinion, remains the same. Low silhouette for stealth, cover etc. Low centre of gravity too perhaps. Low,squat, close to the ground. Is why they opt for this wheel size. Concealment at loss of performance.
As someone from the inside the immediate issue I see is its too heavy to be righted by 4 guys when upside down. Next is the lack of ground clearance. I still think a powerful, purpose developed quad bike is a better tool. Its a smaller signature, its easier to hide, its easier to recover, its easier to transport. Only downside is range. Maybe a battery version will prove more flexible, but will it swim ashore, Marine? I can only see these as potential Swarm attack vehicles.
These can be righted very easily by 4 guys.
Many better vehicles that serve the same purpose, just because other "high tier operators" are using them, doesn't mean they the best, normally means it's the cheapest bid...
Ok feel free to name 5 more dune buggy’s that are better Mr Cynical 🤨
@@Bite_Me_MF Joyner Sand Viper 1100cc EFI
BMS Sand Sniper T-1500 4S
Yamaha YXZ1000R SS SE
Polaris RZR XP Turbo
Can-Am Maverick X3 X rs Turbo R
Tatum Dragon Sand Car
Howe & Howe Ripsaw
BuckShot Racing X5R
Just because you asked for Dube buggies...
@@ginger0208 If it meets requirments thats all that matters Dude. Or do you like to see your tax dollars wasted? Also note they mentioned they are testing it.
@@loganholmberg2295 yea, luckily still in the testing phase, but for me it's not about wasting tax dollars, it's about the safety of the troops. The specs of these vehicles just don't seem to cater to military use
@@ginger0208 You're just listing off random dune buggies and claiming that they're better. You've proven nothing. Demonstrate that these vehicles are better than the Polaris in the video using facts and arguments. You'll have a tough time, because the models you listed are either absurdly expensive, can't carry cargo (unless it's lashed to the roll cage or put in the passenger seat), or are clearly way too big and heavy for the job.
Should they not be at sea somewhere? Please stop them playing at light infantry
soooooo a hunting side-by-side painted in FDE
And? It's notoriously hard for a force to procure new equipment this quickly. I think it's pretty impressive that the royal marines have been able to achieve so many of their future commando force goals and in such a short space of time. However, it also hints to quickly changing threats. Food for thought!
Mate you need to sort your lid out helicopter landing pad lol
Because they need to hire someone like me to design a vehicle from scratch that will work without hurting their spine it needs completely new design this is not the way to go
Didn't we have something like this back in the days of 24 Airmobile Bde?
Wouldn't the Infantry Squad Vehicle be a better alternative?
These are lighter and lower profile. Depends on what the marines need I guess. ISV is better suited to longer distances, this is more about agile movement over rough terrain and probably cheaper too.
@@meme4one Significantly cheaper. You can buy a side by side for as little as 8k in canada, So yeah a military version will be more expensive but not even close to an ISV I imagine.
See can't tab as fast as para reg they need buggies to get them there. Lazy that. Can we borrow them please haha
👍
That's true, we can't! But saying that we Yomp with our load on our back. If we tabbed we would be travelling light, and as a fmr Corp member.... Just saying.
@@Zero6BravoZ6B tabbing is with full kit on your back not fighting order it's marching order. What does yomp stand for some booty told me once but can't remember
@@carlseddon2392 your own marching pace
When was the last operational, large scale parachute insertion conducted by the parachute regiment?
Underpowered, cvt belts destroy themselves daily
WW11 SAS keeps what’s new is just old
The future commando force program seems great. I say “seems” because it needs adequate funding to be anything other than a typical government (of any colour) initiative - great words; no back up.
With a son in the Corps, I’m told that funding remains so poor that most commandos are buying their own kit. How can that be right? We ask these people to put their lives on the line and then don’t provide proper boots or kit.
I’m not for a minute suggesting taking money away from something daft like overseas aid. No, let’s scrap that new yacht which ,even if it were more than an ego project, ought to be funded from the Business development budget and not the Ministry of Defence.
No point at all about saying national scandal - it would only go only that long list. Politicians have a difficult job - how do they balance ego- projects against vote-winning ideas
Naa they seem to fancy and to many things to go wrong on a long operation 200 behind enemy lines. Stick to a land rover proven to take abuse
Haha this is for something completely else
Excellent coment from a fellow brit 👏
If a Jackel and Quad bike had a love child
"Master Driver" ?? Hehehehehe.
So like the jeeps used buy the SAS in WW2.
Except you can 3 times faster and not ruin your back yes.
@@loganholmberg2295 Maybe ?? LOL
If it's exhausting that's a problem.
Mmmmm
Why would a royal marine have to blur his face
It was stated in the film that these had been used by SF and as this guy said he had used them a lot previously I think its pretty fair to say he is SF.
@@1chish nice thx
He’s a funny marine.
Good Target for Taliban Kids.
slow AF!
nice but your modern enemy will be watching you from a drone miles above and just drop a missile
What’s with hiding the Marines face if you don’t wanna be on camera get somebody else
I don't think it's about being camera shy. A lot of the time the faces of special ops guys are blurred. These guys do all manner of stuff in foreign countries, and you really don't want the enemy knowing that a certain bearded shepherd is actually a soldier from the UK.
@@profd65 Yes ,but to save all that blurring a spokesman could have done the same job
Extremely surprised the US would make this as IMO it's not the greatest design. Extremely open, no armor, no weapons, still get soaked by water. It seems like it would be the "golf carts" for higher ranking officers to travel at a base, but in a military version lol. Wouldn't really even be useful against 3rd world nations. I wonder what the US had in mind for these. More for export?
For it's purpose, it's actually a very good design.
Special operations guys use these--Special Forces, SEALs, etc. If you get secretly dropped out of a plane in the middle of the desert forty miles from your objective, one of these vehicles loaded up with equipment can be dropped with you. You'd probably rather drive to your objective than proceed on foot carrying a seventy pound ruck.These vehicles aren't trying to do the job of a tank or an armored personnel carrier.
The steering wheel sits on the wrong side.
loads of IED protection... Err
The US Marines have to use tanks - ! 😁
Not anymore. They got their Abrams taking off them 😔
These vehicles can easily be destroyed
Yes but they aren’t supposed to be used in a firefight they are for transporting troops to hard to reach locations.
What is a "light weight mobility asset"? Do these guys feel big using such business like Gobbledygook? Do these guys speak with each other using this sort of gibberish? Hehe. What joke! "Firing platform"?? Rubbish. Its a stripped down 4WD. Nothing special but welcome to the C20, not yet the C21 in your case.
But the steering wheel is on the American side. 🙄
Err if that’s a problem for you then you’re obviously not a skilled driver.
Wales the country?