The Transit is immediately easier to drive and I think it's because it's a passenger van without seats where the Promaster is a delivery van they might put seats in (if you get my drift). Maybe I'm spoiled on the Ford, though because I've driven many different configurations...Passenger, cargo, handicapped (short bus type) and even armored.
thank you for this side by side review, very helpful. I will put my observations about "cockpit" in promaster which I test drove today which I have also put on other videos as I think it's very important for some people. I was surprised to discover that the seating was VERY uncomfortable for me in the sense that for my arms to reach the oddly tilted steering wheel comfortably (with only minimal telescoping ability and no tilt adjustment) , my knees were jammed up against the dash and you have no space to stretch your legs beyond a 90 degree angle at best. Now this will depend on your body configuration of course; I'm a 5'8" female and my arms are a little short relative to my legs. Women tend to have shorter torsos compared to men but relatively longer legs/inseam. and then there's arm length. I liked everything else about how the promaster drove and handled, but couldn't imagine a cross country trip with that short space up front for my legs and no room to stretch them out even a little. this was with the seat height maxed out already. It may help to bring a booster cushion to give legs a bit more stretch room, but seating position already very high. Anyway, all this to say best to test drive one before you buy as individual anatomy and "cockpit" configuration can make or break it for you.
I really wanted a 2020 promaster but thankfully test drove one and experienced the exact same thing about the 'reach' to the steering wheel. i'm also 5'8" and my leg was jammed up against the dash just to get my arms at a comfortable feel on the steering wheel.
Promaster 280 degree doors are available as an option. Pretty cheap too. Also the both vans are built and designed with load in mind so you really can't judge the ride quality empty. If they did that would be a great sales tactic.
Good job on review. FYI, seems louder than other videos? Pretty huge chases on the Transit to use. Looked like you could remove the chase wire in question and re-route it but still leaves the chase, welded in? Any difference in MPG curious. PM doesn't come in AWD sounds like.
I am glad you hit on a few very important points. I want a van that is quiet and has ease of entry. I know you did some sound deadening and that helped but could you comment on wind noise at highway speeds? Also curious what engine you have, how you liked it and what overall fuel consumption was. Thanks for the video!
The one you see in this video was a 250 with a regular v6. My new one is a 350 with the EcoBoost. The EcoBoost gets about a mile and a half more on average per gallon so I would say that they're basically almost the same. At 80 miles an hour drives just like an F-150 and totally quiet
@@vacayalldayeveryday Do you think the eco boost is worth the extra cost? I think the slightly better mileage would go out the door putting my foot down with a more responsive engine.
I’m upgrading my GMC conversion/weekend camper van to a pro master or transit self build. Question: I’m 5’10”, wife shorter we want a side to side bed. I know the ram is a wider interior but can the ford do side ways sleeping? My rough budget for just the van is like $25K, lower the miles the better, some ford stuff sounds better, some ram seems better, but the side to side bed is a must. Any input , thanks. Are the 2015- 2019’s problematic either brand?
Check out listing on RV trader walk through video of the Transit. It's a full size bed sideways in the back. We only build out new vans and not sure about any problematic issues with the older ones. The nice thing about the Ford is that they're built on the f250 and 350 chassis and the Ford trucks have been the number one selling vehicle for the last 50 years in America so it's easy to get worked on and anything new in 2015 would be covered under recalls anyway. Hope this helps.
I drive a 2015 transit low roof for the past 3 years and now I am wanting to upgrade it to 2020 ford transit crew awd drw, but it's just too expensive. I am starting to wonder if promaster 3500 is going to get my job done good because at least it's cheaper. One day I had to use 2019 promaster 1500 and didn't like it all all because of the engine possibly too small, it just kept revving itself on cruise control. I carry heavy grocery items every week.
Yeah the ProMaster isn't my favorite even if you went with a transit 250 hauling groceries it should be able to handle that without any problem. I also love the EcoBoost motor but I've had the non-Ecoboost and it drove great also
Thanks for your video, in about one week I need to buy a cargo van, I don't know what to do, hard decision to make ford transit 3500 extended high roof or promaster high roof extended????
Someone I know spent $130K on Promaster Solis and got stuck in 4 inches of snow! My Ford Transit AWD is a beast in the snow around Tahoe! I hated that antenna at first too!! But I don't see it anymore!
Thanks for the video, you hit on the important features (not specs in inches). I would like to know your opinion on the new Mercedes Sprinter (GAS) model. I need to get a van asap and would like to know your thoughts.
I've never done a Mercedes sprinter so I would be lying if I said I knew anything about them. I'm getting ready to acquire another Ford Transit which should be built out within the next month and a half if you're interested.
Just a thought.... Mercedes and BMW and VW - all German - have a reputation of over engineering many systems. And then they keep doing it, despite high fail rates. The parts are Uber expensive, Labor must almost be done by only their mechanics because of computer requirements which is also very expensive. Look at a 5-8 year old Mercedes anything and you will see a huge depreciation because the used market is telling you how unreliable they are in the long run. ALL Mercedes Sprinter owners will say “yeah maintenance is expensive but...” and it is easy to gloss over that statement. But be careful in doing that. Paying $1000 for brakes is NOT normal. Paying $500 for a simple belt replacement is excessive. Not to mention bad motor actuators, oil leaks, valve seals, etc. They are money pits in the long run. Just some thoughts on ALL German cars.
You have to go to the Ford website to look at the towing capacities for each and it varies depending on the version you have whether it's a transit 150 250 or 350 and if you have the towing package also if you have the brake assist and what motor you have the six or the EcoBoost twin turbo.
This is really practical and helpful. Thanks. Did you pick white for a certain reason? Also what was the price of that Ford? And do you suggest a certain dealer? Lastly - which GVWR payload package do you suggest?
We typically do white because a lot of van lifers like to stay stealthy so it looks more like a electrician or plumber truck when parked in a random parking lot. I would find any dealer that has the package that you're looking for as they're getting fuel and far between with the boom and Amazon snatching them all up for delivery vehicles. Both the 250 and the 350 work great. I don't think the 150 model would have enough payload to carry a build out in gear.
@@vacayalldayeveryday Thanks so much. This is the first video I have seen of yours. Look forward to learning more. Any suggestions or channels to follow?
I didn't want white but it was the only color I could find without waiting a year to get one. Now that I have it I'm really happy with white. Easy to clean doesn't show water spots and stays cooler in the summer!
White is the factory color, you have to pay for a different color from Ford and wait longer for delivery - which is much cheaper than repainting a used Transit.
Interesting comparison, thanks. For me, I am looking at the new Super high roof Promaster, which is much taller than either the transit or sprinter, remains much wider, and slightly shorter than the Transit, so much more interior space, bigger roof for solar panels, vents, etc and sharper turn radius. Lower deck height than the other two. I do like the Transit side channels for electrics etc, but the Promaster wins for me.
No, it wasn't. But just the fact that the Ford was so much quieter when it was empty made me feel like it had a little bit more stability or rigidity to the big panels perhaps. But once you insulate everything they're both totally quiet. But the four does drive much better in my opinion those more like you're just driving an F-150.
Yeah I started to do one on the ProMaster but figured that I kind of talked about it enough during the Ford review and the comparison. If there's anything individual that you want to know about shoot me a question.
I’d love a review on the Promaster as well as we are deciding on these two. I’m interested in longevity with the engine and maintenance as well. Thank you. Looking forward to it.
@@genebelledulay3593 Unfortunately I don't do ProMasters anymore and don't have one to walk around. We switched to transits based on the info in the video. Shoot me any direct questions and I will try to answer. Thanks for the follow and subscribe! Take care, Donnie
They're literally about the same. The EcoBoost was getting around 15 per gallon and now that I've driven it about 2,000 mi I'm getting about 15 and a half to 16. The ram was about 16 also. I literally believe it's how much you're doing highway driving and how heavier foot is because when you're only seeing about 1 to 2 mi per gallon difference you're literally depends on how much time you're spending on the highway or in town. I definitely would not consider that a factor as there's not enough discrepancy between the two to make a difference.
Looks like the Ford on both sides in the walls are great places for hidden storage compartments. The Ford is definitley has better built body, The Doge though has the widest interior (if a person is 5'11" or less in height they can sleep sideways freeing up more interior space for other uses) and simplest van to work on overall. The Ford with the turbo motor is very powerful for the van. Yet the Dodge V6 is a proven reliable motor (They also use it in the Jeep models). The Dodge is used by the U.S. Post office. The Dodge is the choice for intial cost and long term low cost maintance but the Ford is the choice for more of a premium vehicle. Hard decisions for sure. The Ford does offer all wheel drive (and in 2022 a "Adventure Pkg") by the way which the Dodge does not.
What type roof is good after adding solar panels, ac and vent and possibly rack for persons no taller than 6feet? And after a level floor is installed? What do you recommend? Have heard too high of a van, cant fit into garages or get through certain areas overhead.
Anywhere ? I'm in Portland Oregon and just test drove several 2023 at different dealerships. Plenty to be had around here. Price? Well that's another story.
@@gwb8445 - you didn’t notice that you’re responding to my comment from a year ago? Transits finally became available during the last year although too late for me.
No it's just the way the seat sets, the steering wheel position, since it's built on the Ford truck chassis. They have it down to a science and the RAM feels more like a delivery driver truck.
Yes the antenna on the transit is stupid but who cares. It's an antenna. The transit is considerably longer as I purchased almost the identical one minus the all wheel drive. So your roof line is still longer. And it's considerably taller on the inside with much more headroom. As far is the shelf, it works OK. Not worth the hype. I will probably build my own custom one and replace it. However it works. Make it any bigger and you'll just have more craft a full on your head. The only thing I dislike about the transit is the steering wheel controls. And the Anemic horn
first of all acdc mini splits are a requirement for roof room, I put two 430 watt solar panels on top sideways and the compressor for the mini split, all those drop in ac's are junk, use to much power, no good for nothing and too exspensive
Lol I believe you need to rename your video because you are citing your opinions based on your preferences rather than truth. This really isn't a comparison video by any means, this is a review on what you initially think of your Ford....including what you don't like about the ProMaster. Instead of doing a review on two different Vans where one has been set up that you've used before and one that hasn't been set up that you barely used.... Do a review after you install your mods. Then after driving it for a couple of years. Then make your comparison.
@@vacayalldayeveryday that's nice. But your title is misleading. You act as if you are giving a fair comparison but at the end of the day you're just giving your opinions. Which there's nothing wrong with.. but don't confuse those opinions for facts.
Age of Reason Why are they important? In EU, you drive short distances, at least much shorter then in USA. In US, taking a trip means 3-4-5k miles, that is a lot of road to cover and yes, these cup holders, you never can have enough of them.
At first I thought that same thing. I then considered all the other items like sunglasses, phone, snack bar, tissues, wallet, .... all the other stuff that tends to float aroudn in the front on the middle tray in our minivan, but it would be great if there were specifc spots for those items in our vamper-can. :)
Both junk. Of you want to see how structurally weak the Transit is, close that sliding door hard and watch the walls and roof vibrate. Like its doing the wave at a football game 🤣. BTW those black pads at rear corners are actually magnets that hold the rear doors in place when you open them all the way. Guess thats one good thing 🙃
Yeah I know about the magnets. I'm actually putting together a video about when you cut in your windows and do any other modifications that you want to cover those in blue tape so that the little metal shards don't get on them. and I'd have to disagree with you I have friends that have sprinters I've owned the ProMaster and the transit when you slam the door on any of them they all shake when they're empty. When you build them out properly they're all the same on the inside. But to each his own.
The Transit is immediately easier to drive and I think it's because it's a passenger van without seats where the Promaster is a delivery van they might put seats in (if you get my drift). Maybe I'm spoiled on the Ford, though because I've driven many different configurations...Passenger, cargo, handicapped (short bus type) and even armored.
Transit all day long
Really appreciate the honesty and you taking the time to go over the vehicles, it’s extremely helpful. Hoping to make my van purchase next year.
Agreed. I'm hoping to purchase one next spring and built it out over a few months.
thank you for this side by side review, very helpful. I will put my observations about "cockpit" in promaster which I test drove today which I have also put on other videos as I think it's very important for some people. I
was surprised to discover that the seating was VERY uncomfortable for me
in the sense that for my arms to reach the oddly tilted steering wheel
comfortably (with only minimal telescoping ability and no tilt
adjustment) , my knees were jammed up against the dash and you have no
space to stretch your legs beyond a 90 degree angle at best. Now this
will depend on your body configuration of course; I'm a 5'8" female and
my arms are a little short relative to my legs. Women tend to have
shorter torsos compared to men but relatively longer legs/inseam. and
then there's arm length. I liked everything else about how the promaster
drove and handled, but couldn't imagine a cross country trip with that
short space up front for my legs and no room to stretch them out even a
little. this was with the seat height maxed out already. It may help to
bring a booster cushion to give legs a bit more stretch room, but
seating position already very high. Anyway, all this to say best to
test drive one before you buy as individual anatomy and "cockpit"
configuration can make or break it for you.
I really wanted a 2020 promaster but thankfully test drove one and experienced the exact same thing about the 'reach' to the steering wheel. i'm also 5'8" and my leg was jammed up against the dash just to get my arms at a comfortable feel on the steering wheel.
I’m about to make a purchase in the next couple of weeks this is really helpful thank you
Promaster 280 degree doors are available as an option. Pretty cheap too. Also the both vans are built and designed with load in mind so you really can't judge the ride quality empty. If they did that would be a great sales tactic.
Good job on review. FYI, seems louder than other videos? Pretty huge chases on the Transit to use. Looked like you could remove the chase wire in question and re-route it but still leaves the chase, welded in? Any difference in MPG curious. PM doesn't come in AWD sounds like.
Great comments Thanks. Helps me to understand.
I am glad you hit on a few very important points. I want a van that is quiet and has ease of entry. I know you did some sound deadening and that helped but could you comment on wind noise at highway speeds? Also curious what engine you have, how you liked it and what overall fuel consumption was. Thanks for the video!
The one you see in this video was a 250 with a regular v6. My new one is a 350 with the EcoBoost. The EcoBoost gets about a mile and a half more on average per gallon so I would say that they're basically almost the same. At 80 miles an hour drives just like an F-150 and totally quiet
@@vacayalldayeveryday Do you think the eco boost is worth the extra cost? I think the slightly better mileage would go out the door putting my foot down with a more responsive engine.
I just found your channel and love this build. I'm starting on my own next year and appreciate your perspective on the Ford vs the Dodge. Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it. If you have any questions don't hesitate to reach out and thanks for subscribing!
Thank you for the showing of the Ford.
I’m upgrading my GMC conversion/weekend camper van to a pro master or transit self build. Question: I’m 5’10”, wife shorter we want a side to side bed. I know the ram is a wider interior but can the ford do side ways sleeping? My rough budget for just the van is like $25K, lower the miles the better, some ford stuff sounds better, some ram seems better, but the side to side bed is a must. Any input , thanks. Are the 2015- 2019’s problematic either brand?
Check out listing on RV trader walk through video of the Transit. It's a full size bed sideways in the back. We only build out new vans and not sure about any problematic issues with the older ones. The nice thing about the Ford is that they're built on the f250 and 350 chassis and the Ford trucks have been the number one selling vehicle for the last 50 years in America so it's easy to get worked on and anything new in 2015 would be covered under recalls anyway.
Hope this helps.
I drive a 2015 transit low roof for the past 3 years and now I am wanting to upgrade it to 2020 ford transit crew awd drw, but it's just too expensive. I am starting to wonder if promaster 3500 is going to get my job done good because at least it's cheaper. One day I had to use 2019 promaster 1500 and didn't like it all all because of the engine possibly too small, it just kept revving itself on cruise control. I carry heavy grocery items every week.
Yeah the ProMaster isn't my favorite even if you went with a transit 250 hauling groceries it should be able to handle that without any problem. I also love the EcoBoost motor but I've had the non-Ecoboost and it drove great also
Thanks great video.
Thanks for your video, in about one week I need to buy a cargo van, I don't know what to do, hard decision to make ford transit 3500 extended high roof or promaster high roof extended????
They're both great vehicles. Personally I think the Ford drives significantly better but it's all about personal preference.
Depends on what you need, I got a Ram promaster because of the square interior and larger width. Plus I like the bus/semi truck driving position.
Someone I know spent $130K on Promaster Solis and got stuck in 4 inches of snow! My Ford Transit AWD is a beast in the snow around Tahoe! I hated that antenna at first too!! But I don't see it anymore!
Ditto! Love my Ford and now I don't notice the antenna anymore either.
Thanks for the video, you hit on the important features (not specs in inches). I would like to know your opinion on the new Mercedes Sprinter (GAS) model. I need to get a van asap and would like to know your thoughts.
I've never done a Mercedes sprinter so I would be lying if I said I knew anything about them. I'm getting ready to acquire another Ford Transit which should be built out within the next month and a half if you're interested.
Just a thought.... Mercedes and BMW and VW - all German - have a reputation of over engineering many systems. And then they keep doing it, despite high fail rates. The parts are Uber expensive, Labor must almost be done by only their mechanics because of computer requirements which is also very expensive. Look at a 5-8 year old Mercedes anything and you will see a huge depreciation because the used market is telling you how unreliable they are in the long run. ALL Mercedes Sprinter owners will say “yeah maintenance is expensive but...” and it is easy to gloss over that statement. But be careful in doing that. Paying $1000 for brakes is NOT normal. Paying $500 for a simple belt replacement is excessive. Not to mention bad motor actuators, oil leaks, valve seals, etc. They are money pits in the long run. Just some thoughts on ALL German cars.
@@shawnwright240
Spot on tread + days of diesel sprinters ended in 2006 when they stopped making 2.7L, 5 cylinders motors.
@@vacayalldayeveryday do you have pics of your build outs? And how much when completed?
@@shawnwright240 And You have Ford dealerships just about every where.
Transit or RAM which one would you choose to convert and live in?
How much and what can the transit tow? What are the different wheelbases available in the transit high roof?
You have to go to the Ford website to look at the towing capacities for each and it varies depending on the version you have whether it's a transit 150 250 or 350 and if you have the towing package also if you have the brake assist and what motor you have the six or the EcoBoost twin turbo.
Thank you . Almost purchased a Transit Cargo beore the ' Bug ' came.
This is really practical and helpful. Thanks. Did you pick white for a certain reason? Also what was the price of that Ford? And do you suggest a certain dealer? Lastly - which GVWR payload package do you suggest?
We typically do white because a lot of van lifers like to stay stealthy so it looks more like a electrician or plumber truck when parked in a random parking lot. I would find any dealer that has the package that you're looking for as they're getting fuel and far between with the boom and Amazon snatching them all up for delivery vehicles. Both the 250 and the 350 work great. I don't think the 150 model would have enough payload to carry a build out in gear.
@@vacayalldayeveryday Thanks so much. This is the first video I have seen of yours. Look forward to learning more. Any suggestions or channels to follow?
I didn't want white but it was the only color I could find without waiting a year to get one. Now that I have it I'm really happy with white. Easy to clean doesn't show water spots and stays cooler in the summer!
White is the factory color, you have to pay for a different color from Ford and wait longer for delivery - which is much cheaper than repainting a used Transit.
Great video, great help to make a decision 👍 thanks
Glad it helped! Appreciate a like and subscribe and I got more videos coming!
Interesting comparison, thanks. For me, I am looking at the new Super high roof Promaster, which is much taller than either the transit or sprinter, remains much wider, and slightly shorter than the Transit, so much more interior space, bigger roof for solar panels, vents, etc and sharper turn radius. Lower deck height than the other two. I do like the Transit side channels for electrics etc, but the Promaster wins for me.
Thank you for your explain.
For the pro master, is noise still an issue once it’s all built out an insulated?
No, it wasn't. But just the fact that the Ford was so much quieter when it was empty made me feel like it had a little bit more stability or rigidity to the big panels perhaps. But once you insulate everything they're both totally quiet. But the four does drive much better in my opinion those more like you're just driving an F-150.
Where did you get the crafter van on the thumbnail?!
No clue
Thank you- very concise
Thank you and check out the rest of my videos who tried to be as detailed and down to earth as possible. Got more data coming soon
How wide and how tall is the Ford interior of the cargo area?
Once it's built out mine are about 6' 5"
What year(s) Transit would recommend? I was looking at a Promaster, but your video helped a lot and I am going to check out the transit.
I have only dealt with the new ones 2019-20
Underneath where you install shower curtain, you can use a hot water heater drain pan you can stand inside, and let water drain out of the van.
Great idea!
Do you convert vans professionally?
No don't own a shop or anything like that
Thank you!
Great info on the Ford. I don’t see the Promaster review.
Yeah I started to do one on the ProMaster but figured that I kind of talked about it enough during the Ford review and the comparison. If there's anything individual that you want to know about shoot me a question.
I’d love a review on the Promaster as well as we are deciding on these two. I’m interested in longevity with the engine and maintenance as well. Thank you. Looking forward to it.
@@genebelledulay3593 Unfortunately I don't do ProMasters anymore and don't have one to walk around. We switched to transits based on the info in the video. Shoot me any direct questions and I will try to answer. Thanks for the follow and subscribe! Take care, Donnie
Yeah I just saw this too and was like wait where's the other review.😩
If you choose one van which one would you choose ?
Transit
transit is just so ugly though.. i find that hard to get past..
Sound effects were startling and took away from your message. But great information! Thank you!
Understood!
Thank you for a great video 👍I only wish the Promaster has AWD as the Ford.
same here
I believe the 2022 promaster has AWD
How was your gas mileage in these vans?
They're literally about the same. The EcoBoost was getting around 15 per gallon and now that I've driven it about 2,000 mi I'm getting about 15 and a half to 16. The ram was about 16 also. I literally believe it's how much you're doing highway driving and how heavier foot is because when you're only seeing about 1 to 2 mi per gallon difference you're literally depends on how much time you're spending on the highway or in town. I definitely would not consider that a factor as there's not enough discrepancy between the two to make a difference.
How much did the van cost?
Mid 40s for both
Don't like the step in the side door for a work van.
Which one is better on gas?
Ford is a bit better but it's negligible. Not enoght difference matter.
Are you available for hire to do builds?
No unfortunately I can't. Living most of the year in Mexico nowadays.
Promaster all day! Add Bilstein shocks all around, game changer!
what are bilstein shocks?
More people they likes the ford transit than Ram promaster
"Oh!"
Looks like the Ford on both sides in the walls are great places for hidden storage compartments. The Ford is definitley has better built body, The Doge though has the widest interior (if a person is 5'11" or less in height they can sleep sideways freeing up more interior space for other uses) and simplest van to work on overall. The Ford with the turbo motor is very powerful for the van. Yet the Dodge V6 is a proven reliable motor (They also use it in the Jeep models). The Dodge is used by the U.S. Post office. The Dodge is the choice for intial cost and long term low cost maintance but the Ford is the choice for more of a premium vehicle. Hard decisions for sure. The Ford does offer all wheel drive (and in 2022 a "Adventure Pkg") by the way which the Dodge does not.
The radio antenna is always a deal killer. What??
The high roofs are way too high
Hahah! Then buy the mid roof version. But I hit my head on the mid roofs.
What type roof is good after adding solar panels, ac and vent and possibly rack for persons no taller than 6feet? And after a level floor is installed? What do you recommend? Have heard too high of a van, cant fit into garages or get through certain areas overhead.
The whole discussion is a moot point at the moment (Jan. 2023) since there are no Transits to be had anywhere.
I have a fully loaded 2023!!!
Anywhere ? I'm in Portland Oregon and just test drove several 2023 at different dealerships. Plenty to be had around here. Price? Well that's another story.
@@gwb8445 - you didn’t notice that you’re responding to my comment from a year ago? Transits finally became available during the last year although too late for me.
Might be high but it's not as wide
You still can get a full size bed sideways though
👍 I just sold my Sunray 109 And my brand new Jeep and ordered a pro master, cant wait to build it out👍👍👍👍
Awesome! You will love the van life!!!
Yes Ford
Why on the picture VW Crafter? You want talk about Transit.
That's just my logo for all videos.
I watched to hear about actual mechanical comparisons / dependability factors, not a review of the number of cup holders.
What makes the ford a better ride?…is it because it was quieter? Of course the sound barriers were in placed already.
No it's just the way the seat sets, the steering wheel position, since it's built on the Ford truck chassis. They have it down to a science and the RAM feels more like a delivery driver truck.
I love my diesel promaster
Yes the antenna on the transit is stupid but who cares. It's an antenna.
The transit is considerably longer as I purchased almost the identical one minus the all wheel drive. So your roof line is still longer. And it's considerably taller on the inside with much more headroom.
As far is the shelf, it works OK. Not worth the hype. I will probably build my own custom one and replace it. However it works. Make it any bigger and you'll just have more craft a full on your head.
The only thing I dislike about the transit is the steering wheel controls. And the Anemic horn
Needs a train horn!!
first of all acdc mini splits are a requirement for roof room, I put two 430 watt solar panels on top sideways and the compressor for the mini split, all those drop in ac's are junk, use to much power, no good for nothing and too exspensive
Correct, quit using that system after that first series of vans 3 years ago
the ford
Tiago 123
Go with the Ford. Forego the Fiat.
No Bueno on the ram,s
Lol I believe you need to rename your video because you are citing your opinions based on your preferences rather than truth. This really isn't a comparison video by any means, this is a review on what you initially think of your Ford....including what you don't like about the ProMaster.
Instead of doing a review on two different Vans where one has been set up that you've used before and one that hasn't been set up that you barely used.... Do a review after you install your mods. Then after driving it for a couple of years. Then make your comparison.
Have done one ProMaster and 7 Transits in the last year. My opinions stay the same.
@@vacayalldayeveryday that's nice. But your title is misleading. You act as if you are giving a fair comparison but at the end of the day you're just giving your opinions. Which there's nothing wrong with.. but don't confuse those opinions for facts.
@@napalmstickylikeglue isn't every review someone's opinion?
@@vacayalldayeveryday it is. But when your title says "truth revealed".... You are insinuating what you're stating are facts versus opinion.
Democrat Socialist can't handle opinions and they're always right! Lol Great review!
Cupholders aren't even a consideration but for Americans I guess it would be. Two is enough and every car now has at least two.
Age of Reason
Why are they important? In EU, you drive short distances, at least much shorter then in USA. In US, taking a trip means 3-4-5k miles, that is a lot of road to cover and yes, these cup holders, you never can have enough of them.
At first I thought that same thing. I then considered all the other items like sunglasses, phone, snack bar, tissues, wallet, .... all the other stuff that tends to float aroudn in the front on the middle tray in our minivan, but it would be great if there were specifc spots for those items in our vamper-can. :)
That was crappy. u didnt show the Dodge at all...
Both junk.
Of you want to see how structurally weak the Transit is, close that sliding door hard and watch the walls and roof vibrate. Like its doing the wave at a football game 🤣.
BTW those black pads at rear corners are actually magnets that hold the rear doors in place when you open them all the way. Guess thats one good thing 🙃
Yeah I know about the magnets. I'm actually putting together a video about when you cut in your windows and do any other modifications that you want to cover those in blue tape so that the little metal shards don't get on them. and I'd have to disagree with you I have friends that have sprinters I've owned the ProMaster and the transit when you slam the door on any of them they all shake when they're empty. When you build them out properly they're all the same on the inside. But to each his own.
@@vacayalldayeveryday How does the Mercedes Sprinter compare to the Ford Transit?
@Chris totally agree. Oil changes $$$$$$