Hey everyone, I am SO excited about this week's video because many people go to church every week but struggle to really understand what they believe about Christianity and why we believe it. I can make videos all day about relationships and they get lots of views. However, my heart is to equip the body of Christ with the understanding and knowledge we need not only to defend our faith but to build confidence in what we believe as Christians. I hope you'll enjoy this video and find it useful on your Christian journey. Thanks guys and as always, let me know in the comments what you think!
THE BEAT by Allen Parr thank you so much bro for your ministry! God is using you mightily! when i discovered your channel weeks ago i was hook and always anticipating for your next episode to come out. Ive been a christian for many years and I have only started serving God 7 years ago, and i still have things I dont know and cannot understand in the bible. Your ministry is somehow helping me understand further. God bless you brother!
I watch nonsense like this because it perplexes me! Are these arguments actually convincing to anyone? Or do people make these kinds of arguments know it is garbage? In short, are you a moron or a liar? The short simple response to all your claims is that all of your "evidence" for the things you claim is "undeniable" is the Bible itself, the very thing in question. I can make any book "undeniable truth" if I use the book as evidence for the book! The Koran is "undeniable truth" if I use the Koran as evidence. Hell, Gilligan's Island is "undeniable truth" if I use episodes of Gilligan's Island as evidence. Sheesh!
THE BEAT by Allen Parr - I've been reading your comments, and I have the impression that *you really don't understand just how bad your so-called "undeniable" arguments actually are!* Using the bible to prove the bible? Really??? You are having the opposite effect to what you think you are having - you actually make other Christians feel embarrassed about their religion. If that's what you want to do ... then fine! Keep up the hard work mate! ;-)
Oh brothers and sisters blessed is the Lord, I have been a Christian since I know myself, months ago I became a real Christian, but now I started doubting if Christianity is true or not, yesterday I pleaded with God, I promised him that id live my life for him (even tho that was what I was trying to do before, i suppose now on a greater level) and that i would give up all video games if he just gives me a sign that this happened, and that he is Lord and that im going on the right path, I prayed before eating, I went and ate, and then I came back, opened youtube, and this was the first video, at that moment I knew, its from God! Blessed is his name!
I used to be like the Atheists here in the comments. For 14 years I was just like them. I said all the same things and was equally vile, wrapped up in my superiority complex. Just know that there is nothing you can say to them to convince them. There is only one way to help them at all: pray for them. Show them the kindness of Christ no matter how hateful they are to you. Only a personal encounter with the Holy Spirit will ever change their hearts.
I just want to share this It is not us that changes people, it's the Holy Spirit who can do that, our job is only to share the gospel and leave the results to God. And thank you for this comment, I pray that it can also bless other people
Chapel The Evergreen It’s not about hatred. It’s all about the evidence and the complete lack thereof. The gospel stories do not align whatsoever when it comes to what happened at the tomb. Not to mention that these books and accounts were written many decades after the alleged event. You have zero contemporary writings validating this story. The notes given to us by Paul talks about witnesses he heard about, not ones he talked to. Josephus is mentioned as a contemporary in this video by Mr Parr. What he doesn’t tell you is that Josephus was born years after the alleged resurrection. He likely grew up hearing stories and in no way witnessed anything. He also mentions other people named Jesus in his accounts. Most people who quote him as credible have never read a single writing of his. I don’t have hatred. I am, however, shocked by how so many of you look at plenty of evidence that stares you in the face and you ignore. Meanwhile you say that those who don’t believe this story are ignoring the evidence. Well I call bullshit on the story you are selling.
"Only a personal encounter with the Holy Spirit will ever change their hearts." If that is so then why won't your Holy Spirit engage in such personal encounters? If he wants us to believe then why is it so unreasonable to ask for good evidence (and it's not our hearts that need changing - the heart is a muscle with no cognitive function - but our thinking, rational brains)?
@@exiled_londoner You won't like my response because you reject God's authority, but here goes: God chooses whom He saves. He gives Grace to whom He chooses and Judges the rest for their rebellion and sins. We All are deserving of condemnation. I am no better than you, in all likelihood, I am worse... But God, in His mercy, has chosen to give me His gift of Grace. After that, my heart (desires, will, mind) was changed and I became a new person. I pray He does the same for you. But He has every right not to.
I got saved and I never thought I would find myself in a position of doubting God BUT when I called on the name of Jesus I was saved just like it's said in the Word...so anyway I'm still a Christian but after my experience my mind has never been at ease...but anyway it's reassuring to know that God is real ...
Yea keep attending church man and reading the word. The same word(the bible) tells in 2 Corinthians 10:5 " casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God and BRINGING into captivity every thought to the Obedience of CHRIST!! May you continue to grow in the Lord's peace and comfort
Put on Christ. The whole armor of God. The mind is where our battles begin. The enemy wants to plant doubts. Take the Sword of the Word and rebuke those thoughts. And speak it out Loud . The enemy has to Leave. Sometimes his arrows come like a flood. Remember Jesus is with you and you are hidden in him. God will not let the tempter overtake you in Christ . God will give you a way out to escape . I have known the Lord for 45 years and our adversary is always trying us with his old tricks. If you have to fall to your knees and cry out for help. The Holy Spirit can and will help you. Ephesians 6:12 , 1 Corinthians 10;23, The Word is the sword ⚔️ of the Spirit. John: 14:26-31. Just don’t give up. The enemy of your soul is trying to wear you out and take you down. Guess what he cannot . God eon the victory and your longer a victim. Seems like it at times. But you are safe in the arm of Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior. Sometimes I just put music on and praise him anyway. Jesus Christ will show up. ❤❤️💕Him. Blessings to you. God always wins!!🎉
Glory hallelujah to our Lord and savior for your ministry !! I found your channel during this pandemic and I've become a loyal visitor,so thought I would say hi! 🐛🦋🕊️🐑🗺️🎁🙏 Thanks for your videos, I love them! If you've never hear of the bible project, they've got some neat things going on too!
Well, I watch your videos on some regular basis and though I’m on my RCIA course, which means I’m holding to the Catholic Church’s Teaching, Sacred Tradition etc, my duty is to try to find some common ground with other Christians first, and that’s when YOU come in, brother Alan :) Seriously, this is very profound and also simple and practical explanation of the event in which we all do believe! Surely, this info should be helpful in case of meeting with someone who doubts this tide-turning event had ever been true. Though we don’t have an agreement on the theological grounds, I wish you luck and hope that with the God’s grace some of those critics of yours would turn to become good Christians as you and I. Many blessings!
1) not every gospel makes mention of a roman guard at the tomb, but even if there was; they wouldn’t let anyone in or near the tomb. So, how would they know the body was gone? 2) shall I start naming off everyone who was willing to die for or alongside their cult leader. We could be here for a while. 3) you have one man’s claim that there were 500 witnesses. There are no firsthand accounts, and funny that Paul doesn’t give a single name of one of those 500 people to go ask. How convenient. 4) How can you have secular accounts of a resurrection? If such a thing really happened so that historians recorded it; wouldn’t that be enough to change one’s religious views? If not; that really puts a damper in your whole second proof. I’m sorry, but if it actually happened; then there should have been hordes of people converting to Christianity right then and there; whether it meant their death or not. Btw; there were several notable historians in Jerusalem around the time of Jesus’ death, but most don’t even mention him. 5)😂😂😂😂 by far; the most ridiculous of all your “proofs.” Crucifixion was quite a popular form of execution. Do you know how many bodies we’ve found of people who have actually suffered it? One. Just one.
Definitely yes it's possible someone who is atheist and saw it firsthand would deny it. What's amazing though is the Bible says over 500 random people all said they saw a man risen from the dead.
The problem with that is we don't have 500 different accounts of that event, but rather we have one anonymous account saying there were 500 witnesses. Unfortunately, that amounts to hearsay.
The Book of Acts is still relevant today..It's the only gospel book that doesn't end with "AMEN"! That's because Jesus is still Baptizing believers in Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues and performing other miracles through His believers (just like 2000+ years ago)..Cessationists are spreading heresy if they believe that certain gifts are only reserved for Jesus and His disciples !!
@@User-be8sw Actually i changed my mind. They're not going to destroy Christianity because that would cause a war. They are more like trying to make us do there bidding and follow there agenda,even though what they want us to do is against what the Bible says. I don't think God will allow Christianity to be destroyed. But he will test us. Are you a Christian or some other sort of religion?
@@ENCwwe By applying just a little skepticism to the claims being made: #1 Precautions of the Romans? He quotes the Bible here as evidence for this. Is using the Bible as proof for its claims reasonable? What tomb? Is there any evidence for one outside of the Bible? #2. Faith of the disciples? Again, a claim about these events taken from the Bible. Why should WE believe these claims. In any case, is Faith a reliable pathway to true beliefs? What about Islam? Many people have given their lives in the name of it. Ate their claims true? #3. Once again, using the Bible to prove the Bible. Appearances? 500 people? Who were they? More unsubstantiated claims. #4. Secular sources confirm it? Do they really? The first two examples given are questionable at best. As for the three authors, personally I've read Stroebel and McDowell. All I can say is that they, like anyone else, can come to their beliefs for bad reasons. #5. Missing Boby? If Jesus was crucified in all likelihood his body was tossed into a mass grave. To me, this video is obviously catered to people that already hold these claims to be true, just as I did when I was Christian. As far as it being used to convince a non-believer like myself? Nah...
@@khalilc good questions and concerns. I would direct you to books by Josh McDowell "the resurrcrion factor" and gary habernas, rather than just this 5 minute video. Jewish Talmud and Roman sources are used to address your concern, although the bible is also a reliable source
Quoting the gospels to prove the gospels is circular reasoning, so Matthew, and any other book in the Old or New Testament, cannot be evidence or proof. The Josephus account you refer to is a known forgery, even for conservative scholars and historians, so that is also not evidence. But, let's say it was written by Josephus. That wouldn't matter, because he was not a witness to any of the events concerning Jesus, and was just writing down what he had heard. Josephus was born in 37 A.D., after Jesus supposedly flew away into the sky like superman, and would not have been able to witness any of Jesus's miracles, or the resurrection. Thus, the Josephus account can be included as part of the claim, since it reached Josephus by word of mouth, and most likely from Christians, and thus cannot be evidence for the miracles or resurrection of Jesus. Remember, the Josephus account is recognized as a forgery by most experts in the field. Your short list of former atheists who set out to prove the gospels false doesn't mean anything, since it is a logical fallacy to conclude that something is true because you are personally unable to disprove it. Finally, to address your fifth 'proof', missing bodies do not prove that somebody rose from the dead. If you think that is logical, you don't understand the first thing about logic. Jimmy Hoffa's body also was not found, along with many other people, and yet none of them are believed to have risen from the dead. Also, that you and others might not be able to explain how the body might have exited the tomb and not be found afterwords is not evidence that Jesus rose from the dead, as that is an argument from ignorance logical fallacy. Now, you mention atheists, as if the resurrection would prove that God exists. The ability to manipulate nature in amazing ways is not evidence that you created it, therefore miracles and a resurrection are not evidence for the existence of God. They are evidence of the existence of miracles and a resurrection. Since we have already introduced the existence of one god, we now have to consider the existence of other supernatural beings with supernatural abilities, which can also perform miracles, or even beings that can perform miracles and make it seem as though they can rise from the dead that use science and technology to pull it off. In other words, there is more than one way to explain a resurrection and an empty tomb. In fact, nowhere in the Bible does God demonstrate to a witness that he created the universe. The largest miracle he performs in the Bible is flooding a tiny speck of dust floating around in tiny solar system that is in a tiny galaxy in an utterly gargantuan universe. That isn't a God-sized miracle. Stopping the expansion of the entire universe would be a God-sized miracle.
@Christopher Johnson, You fool you are dead wrong. There are tons of ancient non Christian ancient sources that corroborate Jesus miracles and his resurrection. There is a guy named Thallus who wrote an account about Jesus and mention a strange darkness in Judea around the time he died and even mentions the sudden earthquake too. There is also Phlegon who writes an account about Jesus talking about how he accurately predicted the future, and how he died by crucifixion and rose again and exhibited his wounds from his execution to his disciples, a man by the name of Tacitus also refers to the resurrection calling it a superstition, and for Josephus, he was not a forgery he actually wrote an account about Jesus it’s just Christians altered his text centuries later. And even when his text is stripped from the altered text he still mentions Jesus preformed miracles or miraculous feats. These texts are all written around late 1st century early 2nd century which means they are valid. Do some more research buddy.
@Christopher Johnson, You are also wrong but hey what’s new? If the resurrection proves to be true that is some very solid evidence Yahweh is the one true God and Jesus is everything he said he was. And if the resurrection proves true than all of the other supernatural beings are totally incoherent because non of their miracles prove to be true!!! Also if the resurrection proves the Bible reliability and that proves Yahweh is the one true God than it is certain he created the world. You are completely misrepresenting Allen’s arguments, you’re arguments are 100% incoherent and they are weak. Do more research and stick to it kid.
@@lefraudjames4729 What you don't have is any eyewitness accounts of Jesus, and, if you did, you'd need evidence to show those eyewitness accounts are accurate.
That isn't even proof. for example look at TMM video, it clearly explains how your "proofs" are not proofs, they are just details of a story. To get some credibility you at least would need to have direct witness account that was WRITTEN moments, or at least hours after the event. Anything less than that and all you have is just gossip, which has no value even in this time.
So basically 1) Disciples were planning to lie about the resurrection, therefore them talking about the resurrection is real (couldn't have actually lied somehow) 2) People died because they believed in the resurrection therefore it must be truth, unlike any other group of people that died over many other religions, cults or beliefs, somehow 3) over 500 testimonies, except that it's actually 1 testimony about 500 people seeing something 4) A secular (actually christian since he refers to jesus as the messiah but whatever) historian talking about the resurrection. Also two atheists converted to christianity two thousands years later (so?) 5) A 2000 years old corpse (that people were desperate to steal apparently) has not been found Yeah I'm definetly convinced
This shows that you haven't paid attention to this video and just picked and chose what suits your need to disprove it. Everything you just said are very poor assumptions... 1) The disciples planned nothing, they had no motive to lie about the ressurection neither was there any benefit from it, in addition, they were Jews so it would even be convenient for them to not talk about it at all. 2) Not people died, but the disciples were tortured and killed for their claims, and at least one would admit knowing it's a planned lie, and if you were listening carefully, they were cowards so I'm sure either they would admit the lie in a life threatening situation or they would at least make a more convincing story about it, make them look more cooler and not saying - the woman told me that she saw Jesus out of the tomb, let's go and check it out - since women weren't much trustworthy at that time since they were considered "corrupting influences". 3) There were many testimonies - all described by the eyewitnesses and/or Jesus' life writers like Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Peter, also Clement of Rome, Ignatius, Polycarp etc... and Paul also wrote about it (women weren't allowed to write at that time) but it's not only 1 testimony about 500, but 500 about 1 same thing... now if you want all 500+ people to write about that 1 testimony, then how do you even consider or trust any historical manuscript to be true!? That's just unreasonable 4)Again, you didn't even listen to the video, they were all atheists who tried to disprove the rising of Jesus and they all came to the conclusion that there is an undeniable evidence that ressurection really took place at that time, and they becoming Christians is just an additional information to imply how the journey to disprove Christianity led them to understand Jesus better and how important it is for their lives. 5) It couldn't be stolen because there were guards who were protecting it, there was a huge sealed stone and the disciples weren't highly trained thieves or soldiers to come and steal the body... on the other hand, to disprove their lie or that massive hoax, the Roman authorities could've shown the body and easily stop the lie from spreading. I encourage you to read the Bible with open mind, there are even evidences outside of the Bible that confirm biblical stories (also the physical, archeological and historical evidences) and the Bible isn't just a story book, its literal style is not a fairytale but it's rather like any other historical piece, with the biggest collection of ancient Greek and Hebrew manuscripts...it's at least worth considering and checking. You don't have to be convinced, but you can at least make up your mind by understanding it first, without assuming things at first.
Though these are all great supplemental facts, I worry that someone would lean on logic rather than faith when coming to know the Lord. God himself calls it a faith. I don’t believe we are to check our brains at the door of course, but when something such as Christs resurrection wasn’t proven to all the inhabitants of Israel and Rome (as Jesus very well could have), it makes me think that that was the point. I believe God wants us to trust in Him, lean on Him, depend on Him. Again, this video gives lots of great reason to believe our faith, but I’d say it’s better to let Gods word and our spiritual experience lead us to Him rather than us thinking ‘well since the facts pan out, I guess this has to be true’. So lets please be careful and be sure to bring it back to God at all times!
You have a very vague grasp of historical accuracy- either you have embellished your description of Roman practices with details you have invented yourself; or you aren't able to tell the difference between basic fact, and imaginative reconstructions meant to make the story more compelling to people who aren't really interested in history.
Yes, the guy has a Trumpian kind of approach to truth and I suspect that he (and others like him) are not even conscious that they are making up stuff to fit their own preferreed narrative. The fact that it's all a concoction of lies and unjustified assumptions doesn't even enter their heads.
Where did you get that definition of a "guard"? As far as I know, "guard" COULD have meant the Roman equivalent of Barney Fife. And WHY would the Romans give a damn about the body, and WHY would they allow a dignified burial anyway? Typically, bodies of crucified criminals were left to rot. And what's the source for the 1,000 pound cover stone? Ultimately, the answer to your "proof" is, to quote YOU at 1:47, "the Bible SAID." Why should I consider the hearsay presented in the Bible as unimpeachable? I don't know who wrote the resurrection story and neither do you. The authors "Mark," "Luke," and "Matthew" are simply pseudonyms assigned to those books long after the purported events. And incidentally, the books themselves were written long after the purported events described.
Thank you for this important video! I can honestly say that I need this on repeat. You can always tell when the truth comes out because the enemy shows up in droves! Have a blessed day, Mr. Parr!
@@matthewgoddard5088 if you want to criticise science it helps to know what you are criticising. it's not science says "the universe came from nothing", in science everyone knows "nothing" can't happen, there is quantum fields and temperature, space is never empty, it's christians make the claim god pulled the universe out of his arse, so how did god get something from nothing, now that it's YOUR claim?
you obviously can't tell when the truth comes out because this guy is lying. there is no way to PROVE god, otherwise we'd all be flippin christians wouldn't we? even if god existed you can't prove he does however hard you try, cos god is hiding, you are meant to have FAITH not CERTAINTY, you don't even know how your own religion works. an atheist has to tell you.
Believing with your whole heart that an explosion coming out of nothing and forming the sun to perfectly line up so that we don’t freeze or heat up to death, have such complex DNA and body systems, flowers, birds, trees, mountains, oceans, dogs, cats, etc. is what is ludicrous
Cosmologist typically do not believe their theories with their whole heart. Alan Guth is quite clear when he says that his life's work on inflationary models could be complete nonsense if quantum gravity changes what we know about gravity. He is a very humble man. ua-cam.com/video/LRRsMCmqYS4/v-deo.html
@@djmath3w-7 survivorship bias. "look at all these cyclists who wore helmets and received injuries. there must be a correlation between wearing a helmet and getting into crashes" (ignoring the disproportionate number of cyclists that didn't wear a helmet _and died)_ yes, it does seem incredible that we live on a planet that "just happens" to support life… but it isn't, really, if you think about it. it's like searching through a deck of cards until you find the 3 of clubs, and then declaring "wow, the 3 of clubs! the odds of me drawing this exact card were just 1 in 52". it doesn't matter how remote the possibility of life seems to be, if we're deliberately selecting for the scenario where that occurs.
@@ThePurpleGoose023 if you don’t believe in god then how do u think complex life was created our bodies are literally the most complex machinery to ever exist it would have to be created by an entity
I have three questions to ask: 1.what happened to the guard? 2.peter cuts a Roman ear off .what makes you think he can't attack a guard? 3.how can a guard be 10 -30 soldiers when we have the word guards in the gospel?
@roasted pancakes "If you willingly follow an un-falsifiable ideology that was used to subjugate your ancestors, you're gonna have a bad time." - ThunderJuice
Hey Allen, I am a new subscriber and I am just seeing this for the first time. I loved the video, especially your last point, I think about that almost everyday! One thing I did notice is a lot of hate in the comments from non believers. I just wanna say thank you for making these videos and not letting people bother you. I wish I could be more like that. God bless you Allen!
Whenever I hear the phrase 'undeniable proof' I think it is an exaggeration. This is simply so because anyone can deny something for whatever reason. You would be better to state that you have 'compelling evidence' and then let people be swayed by the evidence. This is how science works.
+Haggis McBaggis, writes _"You would be better to state that you have 'compelling evidence' and then let people be swayed by the evidence."_ Ah, there's the rub. He has no compelling evidence so all he can do is try to baffle with bullshit.
there is zero evidence for anything connected to religion and the supernatural, they have to make this stuff up because talking snakes is too ridiculous even for xians.
@@fred_derf How can one rely on whom wrote what as that alone requires testimony for its historical validity. What makes the scriptures in the Bible any different?
@@deandreayton9754 well you aren't very clued up on atheists then are you. there is zero evidence of any god, this guy is lying to you. you wonder why people are leaving the church? because they are lied to and they can see it. we don't have to complicate anything, no two christians can agree on any one point in the bible, that's your problem right there, people get told "the bible is perfect" and it's horse manure, not everyone is as big a tit head as you, people can see it's bollocks.
@@HarryNicNicholas you didn't give an actual reason the Bible is fake. Just because people can't agree on it doesn't mean it isn't true. Instead of attacking someone and name calling, please provide actual evidence
If you already believe the gospels to be true then this guy's evidence is worth listening to. If, like me, you believe the gospels to be fiction then analyzing them for evidence of the resurrection is like analyzing Jack and the Beanstalk to prove that there are giants
@@hudsonbartley2493 The "non-biblical" evidence are from a guy whose work doesn't claim Jesus raised from the dead but was just writing about what he heard these new Christians believed in while the other was a Christian who lived 1700 years after Jesus. How are those things "evidence" a guy rose from the dead?
"All the romans had to do was to present Jesus' body, and Christianity would be destroyed!" 1. Why would the romans want to do that? 2. Are you aware that people can believe things despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary?
While I think your points are valid, I think they could’ve been better, and I’m speaking as a Christian. There were better points you could’ve used. The precautions of the Romans aren’t mentioned outside of the Bible and they aren’t really needed in proving the resurrection, and you could’ve gone into more depth with Josephus and Tacitus and maybe the Talmud, definitely could’ve included the Corinthians creed from Jerusalem and Paul’s letters.
Thank you for this great video! These are such a good points to ponder. Very informative and spot on with biblical facts. Praise God for Jesus' resurrection. Truly our hope is not in vain.
Ad a Christian I feel ashamed that I had to watch this video. Lord forgive me. When times are hard it’s so clear than I’m only human… but with a grain of your help and love I’m a child of God, born again and loved by you and with you forever.
I spent 22 years in the church, and in my last year or two it really bugged me when preachers/apologists repeated the same debunked stuff that had been floating around Christian circles for decades. When you say there were "500 eye-witnesses who saw Jesus," you are repeating something that many apologists have said for decades, and it's a wildly exaggerated statement. 1 person's testimony of what 500 others saw isn't 500 eye-witness accounts. It's 1 eye-witness account, and 500 accounts of hearsay. Let me show you how this doesn't make your argument stronger: 10,000 people witnessed me be abducted by aliens. There! 10,000 eye witnesses! SUCH STRONG EVIDENCE /S!
You guys really are ignorant .... there are tons of proofs of him appearing to more than the 500 you all have never studied and know nothing of what the book truly says.... James jesus brother ... didnt believe in him until he Appeard after his death to him.... he then goes on to write the books and then dies as a martyr for his brother...... kinda hard to believe since he called him crazy in life ..... all the apostles also fled ..... jesus appears to them they all die .... crucified be headed boiled burned alive .... all for the man who appeared to them after his death.... you are all in denial .... this is just a few proofs of the true living word of God and I would debate anyone on the validity of the bible jesus resurrection creationism ... u name it .... the fact is all of you are un educated .... and dont like the truth
@@derekcochran8627 Ironically the vast majority of Christians are not Creationists.😂 Paul is the ONLY source that even mentions the appearance to the 500… he doesn’t give us their names and doesn’t even say that he talked to any of them. For all we know it’s just a story that someone told him about. Btw, the Bible isn’t evidence, the Bible is the claim. So when it says that someone was boiled alive and survived unharmed then that’s just unverifiable hearsay.😂
Matthew 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
I don't want to piss anyone off in the UA-cam comments section... So... I believe in God, but weakly sometimes, yet I can deny these "undeniable proofs". If there were only "some evidence or proofs" of an event happening 2000 years ago, we probably cannot be certain, "sure", or confident of that event happening. 1. The "pre-caution of the Romans" is merely biblical. There are no non-biblical or secular accounts of this pre-caution. I say "merely biblical" because biblical texts are written more like myths and fictional stories we tell our children with exact accounts of what people did and said and they were written so long ago, we cannot be confident in them as witness testimony of what they claim was done or said. The Bible is not Facebook content. 2. The "faith of the disciples" could only show that Jesus Christ had a cult following (a group of fanboys) who would make outrageous or extraordinary claims about their leader without extraordinary evidence. 3. The people who saw Jesus Christ in their minds WERE hallucinating. But, it's only delusional if they believed the disciples in respect to Jesus' resurrection on the sole basis of those hallucinations. 4. Historians make many claims about people, ideas, and events they don't provide much evidence for. Future historians will be making false claims even with the evidence of internet content to work with. I would be more convinced by a Christian historian or writer who gave more complete evidence in his or her writings. On that last point in the video for this section, I don't feel the need to follow the Atheists turned specifically Christian off the worldview cliff. 5. A very "Aha!" argument. If Jesus rose from the dead, then his remains clearly WOULDN'T be able to be found. Don't get me wrong! Jesus Christ can and could and may have lived 2000 years ago. People have lived on this planet since... people began! From the writings of the gospel, we can more simply conclude that had Jesus lived, he had a cult following claiming he performed miracle healing and was risen from the dead. There are no corroborative historical accounts or archaeological findings that prove Jesus healed people and was resurrected. From the accounts of his childhood (during which he was quite the philosopher) and his moral teachings, a cult following of disciples is likely.
I and thousands of other people are the antidote to the Lee Strobel example. I was a Christian who set out to read numerous Christian apologetics books to strengthen my understanding of the "evidence" of my faith. I had an obligation under 1 Peter 3:15 to have a good response for why I believed. I ended up realizing everything apologists said was garbage and stopped being a Christian. If you're going to read an apologetics book, at least follow it up by reading the numerous counter arguments and responses to the content in those books. If you don't know what to read, ask an atheist forum.
aviatortrevor - I truly and honestly believe that there really is only one book you need to read in order to become an atheist - *the Bible.* Any honest, reasonable person who reads the New Testament _for themselves_ will come to the obvious conclusion: *It's just a story.* And the New Testament is not very long either. It's a fairly quick read, less than Tolkien's _The Hobbit_ fur example. Just as an example of an absurdity, take *Acts 15,* where it describes the conclusion to the Apostle's decades long argument over whether _circumcision is mandatory._ The events described in Acts 15 take place about 20 years after Jesus was crucified, and in the lead-up, the apostle Paul is the only one insisting that circumcision is optional. _Every other apostle disagrees with Paul before Acts 15._ And Paul is the only apostle who never saw Jesus when he was alive, which would, normally be a strong indication that Paul was wrong and all the others were right. But in Acts 15 Paul tells of his success in winning converts to Christianity outside of Jerusalem, and this argument wins the day. All the other apostles fall in line with Paul and they declare, as a group, that circumcision isn't required and that letters must be written to all the other churches in the Roman Empire stating this decision that they just made as being the final truth. Now ... is that _really_ the way a god makes doctrinal decisions? Why does success in winning converts carry the day against the wishes of everyone except Paul - someone who never saw Jesus alive and was the newest convert? If their god really wanted to change the rules for it's own religion, then why didn't Jesus himself just say that circumcision wasn't required decades before the apostles finally stopped fighting their doctrinal war over circumcision? Any honest, reasonable person will conclude that it's clearly just a bunch of dudes making up stuff to get more followers. The idea that some all-powerful, all-knowing god was being correctly represented by that rabble of apostles is just _absurd!_ *The road to atheism is paved with Bibles that have actually been **_read._*
Yes. If you're an atheist (not saying you are), you would say the impossible is more likely than the unlikely any time you mention creation without a creator.
@@jessemendoza4647 lol, never heard an atheist claim "creation" without a creator. Just idiots that don't know how to think and assume something existing means it has to be a "creation"... it doesn't. Are you one of those idiots? (don't answer that, i don't really care)
@@jessemendoza4647 noone knows if the universe was caused. It may be infinite. It may just have popped into existence. We know fuck all about "before" this universe. To suggest we do and even enough to make a judgment on how the universe exists is to be grossly mistaken or outright dishonest.
I don’t need proof, I have faith in something that I haven’t seen and I will believe in Jesus, but this video is good for people who need “evidence” to believe
If he was a historical person, then it is possible he was thrown into a mass grave or buried in a tomb somewhere and forgotten. The Jesus of the NT could be an amalgam of historical people. bibleinterp.arizona.edu/articles/2018/02/smi428014
3:02 this verse makes no sense. The Bible was written after all of the story was over. Why would Jesus, knowing that by the time the story was written the people would all be dead- claim that as his proof? You would have no way of asking them.
If you think this is "shocking proof"...do some roleplaying. Pretend for a moment that you are a hard-core Atheist and watch your video. Think of what a complete non-believer in Jesus, God and THE BIBLE would think of your 'proof'. .. Hint: Atheists don't believe in God or the bible...so trying to use either as proof of itself just makes you look dumb. Pr Tip: When trying to convince a non-believer, the first thing you need to do is toss the bible aside and don't refer or use ANYTHING in it to try and back your points up. It's akin to me pointing to a Harry Potter book and saying "See? Right there...it tells you what a patronis is. And if it's in this book, then you know it's fact that patronis' are real....because the book is".
@@yaznijalan647 Physical evidence and facts coming from sources that don't care about religious beliefs. It would be nice to have non-Christian writings from historians of the time of Jesus ( year 0 +/- 30) to corroborate any of the Gospels. There aren't any. It would be nice to have a 1st-person account of anything in the bible....there isn't. Jesus never actually "says" anything in the bible....it's all other people saying "Jesus said..." and "Jesus did...". To make matters worse, all the "Book of..." writers never even met Jesus except for one possibility: Paul. And even his Gospels are seriously in question. The Bible was written multiple decades AFTER Jesus had died. Think about that. .. For example...: What if you decided to write a book about, say, the beginning of the transistor radio in the mid-50's (when they started to be 'shown to the world'). Now, write that book...but you aren't allowed to use any internet, no books, no video's or movies, no audio recordings and no writings by the actual people who pioneered them. You can only talk face to face with people who may have had a father or grandfather who was one of those pioneers. ... ... How accurate do you think their portrayal would be? Hell, just ask your father about some incident you remember happening when you were a kid (not even a teen), and see how close his memory of it relates to what you remember. .. Memories are quite faulty. It's human nature to "fix messy stuff our brain doesn't like". We do it subconsciously. It's why people have bias for/against stuff. Our brains don't care much for facts that don't relate directly to our survival or our happiness (the 3 F's; Food, Family and Fornication). .. So, pointing to a book written over decades, by different people, who never knew Jesus, decades after Jesus supposedly died and was resurrected, with only "word-of-mouth" from followers who believed in him with all their heart....yeah...not exactly "historical facts" if you ask me.
Wow, you type quickly! I went searching for better evidence of his existence and I found this; www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/people-cultures-in-the-bible/jesus-historical-jesus/did-jesus-exist/
@@yaznijalan647 Yes. I've read that. The first problem...it's obviously going to be so bias that it only shows/supports "proof Jesus existed"; the website name gives it away. .. The second problem is that the first 'proof', about Tacitus's last work where he writes about "jesus"...was written in 116-117 CE/AD...which would have been, what, 85 years after Jesus's death? Besides that...it states that Tacitus was "Christus", from which the Christians named themselves. That name, Christus is a translateive name from other languages. Here's a web-blurb I found explaining how common the name "Jesus" was in/around the time of his death: .. " Many people shared the name. Christ’s given name, commonly Romanized as Yeshua, was quite common in first-century Galilee. (Jesus comes from the transliteration of Yeshua into Greek and then English.) Archaeologists have unearthed the tombs of 71 Yeshuas from the period of Jesus’ death. The name also appears 30 times in the Old Testament in reference to four separate characters-including a descendent of Aaron who helped to distribute offerings of grain (2 Chronicles 31:15) and a man who accompanied former captives of Nebuchadnezzar back to Jerusalem (Ezra 2:2). " ..So a book written almost a century later translated a language name three times....Roman to Greek to English; during which there are sounds and leters that are simply not part of the others (e.g., Greek did not use the sound "sh", so a simple "s" was used...Yesua which sounds 'feminine', I guess, in Greek, so they added another S and dropped the A...Yesus...which then gets translated to English as Jesus). So, "there was a guy called Jesus" isn't exactly true or false. There were quite a few people with the name Yeshua (as noted above, 71). .. And I've only touched on the FIRST thing in the page/link you gave me. This is why we need evidence from people who don't have any horse in the race, so to say. Someone who doesn't care if Jesus existed or not...which pretty much rules out all Christians, Christian sites, and Christian literature. .. The Second 'proof' on that page says the following:... .. " Highlighted above is the Latin text reading “… whom the crowd called ‘Chrestians.’ The founder of this name, Christ, had been executed in the reign of Tiberius by the procurator Pontius Pilate …” " .. HUGE problem here. It's basically some guy saying "...some people said a guy was killed by Pontius Pilate...". LOL! No kidding? Ya don't say...a Roman leader giving the order to one of his soldiers to kill someone who would have been considered a 'seditionist' or 'anrach' who wanted to destroy the entire Roman way of life and obliterate all their sacred beliefs, holy scriptures, gods and mythology? Huh.... ;) .. Anyway...that's enough I think. :) The bottom line...we need to find "factual evidence that results in a high degree of certainty". I'm sorry to say that "some guys said Romans killed another guy who other guys said was a demigod of a never before heard of deity...and someone wrote down a similar name a hundred years later...so it must be true..."....well, doesn't quite fit the bill. ;)
@@unrelatedkin Even most Christian historians think that there were no guards at the tomb… because they are only mentioned the the gospels of Matthew an NOWHERE else. So his first claim already fails… just because the Bible says so doesn’t make it true.😂
Hey Marlee, thanks for that question. The Bible says that He never died again. He ascended into the clouds after spending 40 days on the earth after his resurrection to give convincing proofs of his resurrection. Check out Acts 1:6-11 (specifically v. 9). Thanks and keep the questions coming!
So all your "shocking proofs" come from the Bible? That would be the definition of "preaching to the choir". As an exercise in affirming one's faith it may work. But as "proof" it's useless to those needing proof. Maybe your best bet is to just stick with taking it all on faith and not try to justify your beliefs with spurious "proof".
@@Mike00513 The burden of proof falls on the people using the bible to prove it. Can you disprove all of the Egyptian writings about their gods. You need to give more evidence than a inconsistent book written decades after the events it talks about.
Egwene al-Vere sacrificed herself for us. This is proved because there is a book describing this, as well as thirteen earlier books setting the scene (for those of you wondering, look up Wheel of Time by Robert Jordan). I think that nearly all the arguments given in this video apply there as well, so that proves it.
Um I hope you know that is a tv show created by a Episcopalian…. Laws of Logic applies that all religions cannot be true . Only one can be true or all are false.
Um I hope you know that is a tv show created by a Episcopalian…. Laws of Logic applies that all religions cannot be true . Only one can be true or all are false.
@@timothyyost4009 Um I hope you know that the TV show is based on some books. And the show didn't even exist when I wrote the original comment. So really no idea what you are trying to show here.
-Quick! A terrified and afraid group of few fishermen and their wives, hiding for their lives, are going to stole the body of a nailed carpenter! -By Apollo! Let us prevent that... by allowing them to put the body inside a tomb where no one can see it, instead of letting the corpse rot outside while nailed, for everyone to see and place guards around. -Gee! Brilliant idea.
A wise response. If the Sanhedrin were truly concerned about disciples stealing the body, they would have voiced it before Pilate gave up custody of the body, in which case the obviously best way to preempt resurrection rumors is to leave the body on the cross until the 3 day prophecy is no longer possible to fulfill, or else make sure hostile custody of the body remains intact for those 3 days.
The Romans respected the Jewish ways of burial. And the Jews couldn't just let a rotting corpse outside to defile the land, according to Jewish law and especially not before one of the most holy celebrations of the Jews, the Passover.
@@rafaeliacsity5315 Even granting that fantasy, if the Romans suspected their disciples could (against any logic) stole the body, would never lose sight of it. Better rotten in a mount, than hidden! But, as the earlier gospel say, the disciples were the ones afraid and hidden. The stories do not add up, a clear sign of later embellishment. Once you realize it, cannot believe it anymore. Any real God would know that.
@@TheCheapPhilosophy The Romans knew were the body was, they guarded the tomb and they put not only the stone, but also a roman seal. They never lost sight of the body. Besides, the Gospel tell a straight forward story, so where are the contradictions and embellishment?
Not to mention no amount of animal sacrifices could ever pay the debt of sin for humanity “who is made in Gods image” which holds the highest and greatest in worth. Only God Himself through the Son Jesus Christ who is infinite in worth could pay the debt of sin once and for all for it is finished, fully satisfied and paid in full! In His resurrection He thereby defeated death and sin once and for all and demonstrated the greatest most ultimate love for us sinful humans. For God demonstrated His own love for us, in that while we were still yet sinners, Christ died for us! Glory to God Almighty!
for a start i don't "have to believe" anything. i love apologists, you make more atheists than atheists, even followers of the christian mythology can see you're basically lying for god. there are no "proofs" of god, never have been and as he is imaginary, there never will be.
Thomas Arnold wrote his "History of Rome" in the 19th. century; not exactly a contemporary of the apostles. We have a single story of Jews requesting that Rome post a guard; that doesn't mean the story is true. Joe Smith died for his faith. So Mormonism is true?
1. Secular history my friend, not contemporary. 2. Doesn't make it false either. 3. J Smith didn't die for his faith. Neither has any of his followers.
The purpose of crucifixion was to show everybody that what this person did was really bad and the bodies were left on the crosses to rot oftentimes they would be eaten upon by birds and other animals. Humiliation and being denied the dignity of burial - that is what crucifixion meant. I highly doubt an exception was made in this case.
All refuted...the Romans didn't care about an alleged criminal.. They wouldn't put a batallion of guards around a dead man ...how rediculous ... the apostles are written into the bible as stupid men, not fearful men, but even so they were all upstaged by the 13rd disciple Paul as his visions trumped anything the apostles would have known....enough....this guy is a liar or doesn't know the stories
Your premise is at fault. Firstly, you have to prove Jesus existed, that this was the same man as the figure from your holy text, then that this man was in fact "the son of God". THEN and ONLY then does your question even hold validity. That's right. There are stupid questions. But maybe you're not trying to convince anyone but a Christian, in which case, have at it.
Jesus did exist. He is a historycal fugure. Historians wrote about Him and His story can also be found in the talmud, which is an anti christian book of oral laws snd stories passed down from generation to generation. In the time of Jesus, people were trying to prove His divinity, not his existence. Do you think Paul got beheaded for believing Jesus existed or for believing He was the divine Son of God?
Your initial 2 points are the same and you've offered nothing to back them up. Also, "a book of Oral laws...." well which is it? A book or oral laws? That point doesn't help your case, because it's a paradox. Regarding Paul.... prove to me that he even existed or stop wasting both of our time.
Thanks for a great comment. "Do you even know what it is. [There should be a Question Mark, here, not a Full Stop/Period. They look like this ?] The talmud [Talmud. If its a title of a book then the "t" is a Capital] was [were] stories and laws passed down for thousands of years and it [they] contains [contain] the story of Jesus. Use your brain" [Shame you had to end like that after such a uneducated response. A real shame] Do I know what The Talmud is? No. No I don't know. But what you also don't seem to know is your assertion of its existence, your interpretation of its words & your claim of its authors and their alignments are still just claims. YOU haven't shown me anything. Not even a link. This IS what using your brain looks like. After how poorly written your comment was, I wouldn't be surprised to learn you have the title wrong. But maybe not. Maybe. But if you think me having not read every book in existence isn't using my brain, then I guess you've read all the fine works of the Satanists?
You ignoring the evidence. The talmud is Jewish. It is msde up of stories, laws, and traditions passed down from the time of Moses, or that's what the Jews claim. They contain the story of Jesus. No it is not christian. They say awful insults to Jesus. But they say theee things. Jesus existed, He was crucified by Pilate, and that his tomb was found empty. The Jew's excuse was that the decsiples stole His body. Which dosen't make sense. Just accept the facts.
@@theepicenter4106 yes. I've believed things that made me feel better. It propped me up. Got me through it. Stopped me from growing. Learning. Moving on.
Most Christian scholars think Mark is the earliest gospel Most Christian scholars think authentic Mark ends at 16:8 Therefore, it cannot be unreasonable to conclude that the earliest gospel said nothing about a risen Christ being seen by anyone. Therefore, it cannot be unreasonable to conclude that the only reason later gospels contain more detail is because they are embellishing the earlier story.
2:30 you’re assuming they had the option to denounce him before death. Being a disciple of Jesus would of given you a social standing among Christians. So they would have had a reason to play along with the resurrection. And when they were captured they were probably never given the option to denounce him.
How come? What about how they live, they didn't take advantage of ruling over Christians they was perscuated many times and after they reached brink of death and survived they just kept on preaching with the same poor way of living... Hmm that doesn't seem like taking advantage over Christians
Hey everyone, I am SO excited about this week's video because many people go to church every week but struggle to really understand what they believe about Christianity and why we believe it. I can make videos all day about relationships and they get lots of views. However, my heart is to equip the body of Christ with the understanding and knowledge we need not only to defend our faith but to build confidence in what we believe as Christians. I hope you'll enjoy this video and find it useful on your Christian journey. Thanks guys and as always, let me know in the comments what you think!
THE BEAT by Allen Parr thank you so much bro for your ministry! God is using you mightily! when i discovered your channel weeks ago i was hook and always anticipating for your next episode to come out. Ive been a christian for many years and I have only started serving God 7 years ago, and i still have things I dont know and cannot understand in the bible. Your ministry is somehow helping me understand further. God bless you brother!
I watch nonsense like this because it perplexes me! Are these arguments actually convincing to anyone? Or do people make these kinds of arguments know it is garbage? In short, are you a moron or a liar? The short simple response to all your claims is that all of your "evidence" for the things you claim is "undeniable" is the Bible itself, the very thing in question. I can make any book "undeniable truth" if I use the book as evidence for the book! The Koran is "undeniable truth" if I use the Koran as evidence. Hell, Gilligan's Island is "undeniable truth" if I use episodes of Gilligan's Island as evidence. Sheesh!
Praise God Sweet Spirit! Thanks so much for that encouragement!
THE BEAT by Allen Parr The only shocking thing is how far you will bend over backwards to justify your beliefs.
THE BEAT by Allen Parr - I've been reading your comments, and I have the impression that *you really don't understand just how bad your so-called "undeniable" arguments actually are!*
Using the bible to prove the bible? Really???
You are having the opposite effect to what you think you are having - you actually make other Christians feel embarrassed about their religion.
If that's what you want to do ... then fine! Keep up the hard work mate! ;-)
Oh brothers and sisters blessed is the Lord, I have been a Christian since I know myself, months ago I became a real Christian, but now I started doubting if Christianity is true or not, yesterday I pleaded with God, I promised him that id live my life for him (even tho that was what I was trying to do before, i suppose now on a greater level) and that i would give up all video games if he just gives me a sign that this happened, and that he is Lord and that im going on the right path, I prayed before eating, I went and ate, and then I came back, opened youtube, and this was the first video, at that moment I knew, its from God! Blessed is his name!
Amen brother 🙏
Amen!
Amen, this gives me chills....❤❤❤
Been watching your videos for years but I think I somehow missed this one from 6 years ago! Man, this really increased my faith. Thank you so much!
This one actually helped me convert to Islam. Allahu akbar.
Amen! God bless everyone!
I used to be like the Atheists here in the comments. For 14 years I was just like them. I said all the same things and was equally vile, wrapped up in my superiority complex.
Just know that there is nothing you can say to them to convince them. There is only one way to help them at all: pray for them. Show them the kindness of Christ no matter how hateful they are to you.
Only a personal encounter with the Holy Spirit will ever change their hearts.
I just want to share this
It is not us that changes people, it's the Holy Spirit who can do that, our job is only to share the gospel and leave the results to God.
And thank you for this comment, I pray that it can also bless other people
Yes our job is to preach gospel
💖✝️💖
Chapel The Evergreen
It’s not about hatred. It’s all about the evidence and the complete lack thereof. The gospel stories do not align whatsoever when it comes to what happened at the tomb. Not to mention that these books and accounts were written many decades after the alleged event. You have zero contemporary writings validating this story.
The notes given to us by Paul talks about witnesses he heard about, not ones he talked to.
Josephus is mentioned as a contemporary in this video by Mr Parr. What he doesn’t tell you is that Josephus was born years after the alleged resurrection. He likely grew up hearing stories and in no way witnessed anything. He also mentions other people named Jesus in his accounts. Most people who quote him as credible have never read a single writing of his.
I don’t have hatred. I am, however, shocked by how so many of you look at plenty of evidence that stares you in the face and you ignore. Meanwhile you say that those who don’t believe this story are ignoring the evidence. Well I call bullshit on the story you are selling.
"Only a personal encounter with the Holy Spirit will ever change their hearts."
If that is so then why won't your Holy Spirit engage in such personal encounters? If he wants us to believe then why is it so unreasonable to ask for good evidence (and it's not our hearts that need changing - the heart is a muscle with no cognitive function - but our thinking, rational brains)?
@@exiled_londoner You won't like my response because you reject God's authority, but here goes:
God chooses whom He saves. He gives Grace to whom He chooses and Judges the rest for their rebellion and sins. We All are deserving of condemnation. I am no better than you, in all likelihood, I am worse...
But God, in His mercy, has chosen to give me His gift of Grace. After that, my heart (desires, will, mind) was changed and I became a new person.
I pray He does the same for you. But He has every right not to.
Amen and Amen. Praise God for our Jesus Christ our Risen Lord and Saviour
I got saved and I never thought I would find myself in a position of doubting God BUT when I called on the name of Jesus I was saved just like it's said in the Word...so anyway I'm still a Christian but after my experience my mind has never been at ease...but anyway it's reassuring to know that God is real ...
Yea keep attending church man and reading the word. The same word(the bible) tells in 2 Corinthians 10:5 " casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God and BRINGING into captivity every thought to the Obedience of CHRIST!!
May you continue to grow in the Lord's peace and comfort
Same now whenever I see people going the disciples didn't know jesus I think back to when he sent his spirit to me
Put on Christ. The whole armor of God. The mind is where our battles begin.
The enemy wants to plant doubts. Take the Sword of the Word and rebuke those thoughts. And speak it out Loud . The enemy has to
Leave. Sometimes his arrows come like a flood. Remember
Jesus is with you and you are hidden in him. God will not let the tempter overtake you in Christ . God will give you a way out to escape .
I have known the Lord for 45 years and our adversary is always trying us with his old tricks. If you have to fall to your knees and cry out for help. The Holy Spirit can and will help you.
Ephesians 6:12 , 1 Corinthians
10;23, The Word is the sword ⚔️ of the Spirit.
John: 14:26-31. Just don’t give up. The enemy of your soul is trying to wear you out and take you down.
Guess what he cannot . God eon the victory and your longer a victim. Seems like it at times.
But you are safe in the arm of Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior.
Sometimes I just put music on and praise him anyway.
Jesus Christ will show up.
❤❤️💕Him. Blessings to you.
God always wins!!🎉
So the story of Jesus’ resurrection is accurate because other stories say it is. Profound. Any proof from the 20th or 21st century?
Glory hallelujah to our Lord and savior for your ministry !! I found your channel during this pandemic and I've become a loyal visitor,so thought I would say hi! 🐛🦋🕊️🐑🗺️🎁🙏 Thanks for your videos, I love them! If you've never hear of the bible project, they've got some neat things going on too!
Well, I watch your videos on some regular basis and though I’m on my RCIA course, which means I’m holding to the Catholic Church’s Teaching, Sacred Tradition etc, my duty is to try to find some common ground with other Christians first, and that’s when YOU come in, brother Alan :)
Seriously, this is very profound and also simple and practical explanation of the event in which we all do believe! Surely, this info should be helpful in case of meeting with someone who doubts this tide-turning event had ever been true.
Though we don’t have an agreement on the theological grounds, I wish you luck and hope that with the God’s grace some of those critics of yours would turn to become good Christians as you and I. Many blessings!
1) not every gospel makes mention of a roman guard at the tomb, but even if there was; they wouldn’t let anyone in or near the tomb. So, how would they know the body was gone?
2) shall I start naming off everyone who was willing to die for or alongside their cult leader. We could be here for a while.
3) you have one man’s claim that there were 500 witnesses. There are no firsthand accounts, and funny that Paul doesn’t give a single name of one of those 500 people to go ask. How convenient.
4) How can you have secular accounts of a resurrection? If such a thing really happened so that historians recorded it; wouldn’t that be enough to change one’s religious views? If not; that really puts a damper in your whole second proof. I’m sorry, but if it actually happened; then there should have been hordes of people converting to Christianity right then and there; whether it meant their death or not. Btw; there were several notable historians in Jerusalem around the time of Jesus’ death, but most don’t even mention him.
5)😂😂😂😂 by far; the most ridiculous of all your “proofs.” Crucifixion was quite a popular form of execution. Do you know how many bodies we’ve found of people who have actually suffered it?
One. Just one.
Nice! Bless you! From a Christian Orthodox.
awesome, thank you. I work in recovery with new believers and this is a great video to show them
Old Testament or new
I’m not sure what you mean. We follow the New Testament, not the Old Testament because that is no longer necessary.
Even if an Atheist saw Jesus rise in front of them, they would deny him. :/
This is blindingly arrogant for you to say, and completely dishonest to boot.
That would be actual evidence.
@River Scott you mean Jesus haven't returned yet
Definitely yes it's possible someone who is atheist and saw it firsthand would deny it. What's amazing though is the Bible says over 500 random people all said they saw a man risen from the dead.
The problem with that is we don't have 500 different accounts of that event, but rather we have one anonymous account saying there were 500 witnesses. Unfortunately, that amounts to hearsay.
Jesus is alive!
troll much? smh
The Book of Acts is still relevant today..It's the only gospel book that doesn't end with "AMEN"! That's because Jesus is still Baptizing believers in Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues and performing other miracles through His believers (just like 2000+ years ago)..Cessationists are spreading heresy if they believe that certain gifts are only reserved for Jesus and His disciples !!
no it isn't.
Amen 🙏🙏🙏 Glory be to God now and forever🙏🙏🙏Thank you for the Truth of our Faith🙏🙏🙏
it's not true.
@@HarryNicNicholas May Jesus be with you always.
This is an EXCELLENT video! Very well done.
Thanks so much Ted! Iron sharpens iron brother!
MJPK13 🙄🙄🙄
Honestly, what are the dislikes for?? This was a great video!
It's probably from secular people.
I sure hope none of them were Christians.
@@ryanl.8085 secular people are people who want separation of church and state.
@@User-be8sw I think some secular people want Christianity destroyed. This times is truly a test of our faith
@@ryanl.8085 ok....but that's literally in direct violation of what secularism is so that's not possible
@@User-be8sw Actually i changed my mind. They're not going to destroy Christianity because that would cause a war. They are more like trying to make us do there bidding and follow there agenda,even though what they want us to do is against what the Bible says. I don't think God will allow Christianity to be destroyed. But he will test us.
Are you a Christian or some other sort of religion?
Consider thinking a little more about these proofs. They may not hold up scrutiny if considered skeptically.
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How so?
@@ENCwwe By applying just a little skepticism to the claims being made: #1 Precautions of the Romans? He quotes the Bible here as evidence for this. Is using the Bible as proof for its claims reasonable? What tomb? Is there any evidence for one outside of the Bible?
#2. Faith of the disciples? Again, a claim about these events taken from the Bible. Why should WE believe these claims. In any case, is Faith a reliable pathway to true beliefs? What about Islam? Many people have given their lives in the name of it. Ate their claims true?
#3. Once again, using the Bible to prove the Bible. Appearances? 500 people? Who were they? More unsubstantiated claims.
#4. Secular sources confirm it? Do they really? The first two examples given are questionable at best. As for the three authors, personally I've read Stroebel and McDowell. All I can say is that they, like anyone else, can come to their beliefs for bad reasons.
#5. Missing Boby? If Jesus was crucified in all likelihood his body was tossed into a mass grave.
To me, this video is obviously catered to people that already hold these claims to be true, just as I did when I was Christian. As far as it being used to convince a non-believer like myself? Nah...
@@Terry-nr5qn looks like an interesting blog. Thanks!
@@khalilc good questions and concerns. I would direct you to books by Josh McDowell "the resurrcrion factor" and gary habernas, rather than just this 5 minute video. Jewish Talmud and Roman sources are used to address your concern, although the bible is also a reliable source
Quoting the gospels to prove the gospels is circular reasoning, so Matthew, and any other book in the Old or New Testament, cannot be evidence or proof.
The Josephus account you refer to is a known forgery, even for conservative scholars and historians, so that is also not evidence. But, let's say it was written by Josephus. That wouldn't matter, because he was not a witness to any of the events concerning Jesus, and was just writing down what he had heard. Josephus was born in 37 A.D., after Jesus supposedly flew away into the sky like superman, and would not have been able to witness any of Jesus's miracles, or the resurrection. Thus, the Josephus account can be included as part of the claim, since it reached Josephus by word of mouth, and most likely from Christians, and thus cannot be evidence for the miracles or resurrection of Jesus. Remember, the Josephus account is recognized as a forgery by most experts in the field.
Your short list of former atheists who set out to prove the gospels false doesn't mean anything, since it is a logical fallacy to conclude that something is true because you are personally unable to disprove it.
Finally, to address your fifth 'proof', missing bodies do not prove that somebody rose from the dead. If you think that is logical, you don't understand the first thing about logic. Jimmy Hoffa's body also was not found, along with many other people, and yet none of them are believed to have risen from the dead. Also, that you and others might not be able to explain how the body might have exited the tomb and not be found afterwords is not evidence that Jesus rose from the dead, as that is an argument from ignorance logical fallacy.
Now, you mention atheists, as if the resurrection would prove that God exists. The ability to manipulate nature in amazing ways is not evidence that you created it, therefore miracles and a resurrection are not evidence for the existence of God. They are evidence of the existence of miracles and a resurrection. Since we have already introduced the existence of one god, we now have to consider the existence of other supernatural beings with supernatural abilities, which can also perform miracles, or even beings that can perform miracles and make it seem as though they can rise from the dead that use science and technology to pull it off. In other words, there is more than one way to explain a resurrection and an empty tomb. In fact, nowhere in the Bible does God demonstrate to a witness that he created the universe. The largest miracle he performs in the Bible is flooding a tiny speck of dust floating around in tiny solar system that is in a tiny galaxy in an utterly gargantuan universe. That isn't a God-sized miracle. Stopping the expansion of the entire universe would be a God-sized miracle.
@Christopher Johnson,
You fool you are dead wrong. There are tons of ancient non Christian ancient sources that corroborate Jesus miracles and his resurrection. There is a guy named Thallus who wrote an account about Jesus and mention a strange darkness in Judea around the time he died and even mentions the sudden earthquake too. There is also Phlegon who writes an account about Jesus talking about how he accurately predicted the future, and how he died by crucifixion and rose again and exhibited his wounds from his execution to his disciples, a man by the name of Tacitus also refers to the resurrection calling it a superstition, and for Josephus, he was not a forgery he actually wrote an account about Jesus it’s just Christians altered his text centuries later. And even when his text is stripped from the altered text he still mentions Jesus preformed miracles or miraculous feats. These texts are all written around late 1st century early 2nd century which means they are valid. Do some more research buddy.
@Christopher Johnson,
You are also wrong but hey what’s new? If the resurrection proves to be true that is some very solid evidence Yahweh is the one true God and Jesus is everything he said he was. And if the resurrection proves true than all of the other supernatural beings are totally incoherent because non of their miracles prove to be true!!! Also if the resurrection proves the Bible reliability and that proves Yahweh is the one true God than it is certain he created the world. You are completely misrepresenting Allen’s arguments, you’re arguments are 100% incoherent and they are weak. Do more research and stick to it kid.
@@lefraudjames4729 Note that none of your examples come with evidence showing anything miraculous occurred.
@@lefraudjames4729 What you don't have is any eyewitness accounts of Jesus, and, if you did, you'd need evidence to show those eyewitness accounts are accurate.
@@lefraudjames4729 By the way, I am not the fool here who believes in a magical man that could walk on water and rise from the dead.
Hey brother, keep preaching the truth I love watching your videos.
Truth and bs are not the same. Learn the difference.
Dismissing his claims and proving his claims wrong are not the same. Learn the difference.
Great video, my brother in Christ! Will definitely share it!
"brother in Christ"? Wait, that's gay, don't you guys hate the gays?
That isn't even proof. for example look at TMM video, it clearly explains how your "proofs" are not proofs, they are just details of a story. To get some credibility you at least would need to have direct witness account that was WRITTEN moments, or at least hours after the event. Anything less than that and all you have is just gossip, which has no value even in this time.
So basically
1) Disciples were planning to lie about the resurrection, therefore them talking about the resurrection is real (couldn't have actually lied somehow)
2) People died because they believed in the resurrection therefore it must be truth, unlike any other group of people that died over many other religions, cults or beliefs, somehow
3) over 500 testimonies, except that it's actually 1 testimony about 500 people seeing something
4) A secular (actually christian since he refers to jesus as the messiah but whatever) historian talking about the resurrection. Also two atheists converted to christianity two thousands years later (so?)
5) A 2000 years old corpse (that people were desperate to steal apparently) has not been found
Yeah I'm definetly convinced
This shows that you haven't paid attention to this video and just picked and chose what suits your need to disprove it. Everything you just said are very poor assumptions...
1) The disciples planned nothing, they had no motive to lie about the ressurection neither was there any benefit from it, in addition, they were Jews so it would even be convenient for them to not talk about it at all.
2) Not people died, but the disciples were tortured and killed for their claims, and at least one would admit knowing it's a planned lie, and if you were listening carefully, they were cowards so I'm sure either they would admit the lie in a life threatening situation or they would at least make a more convincing story about it, make them look more cooler and not saying - the woman told me that she saw Jesus out of the tomb, let's go and check it out - since women weren't much trustworthy at that time since they were considered "corrupting influences".
3) There were many testimonies - all described by the eyewitnesses and/or Jesus' life writers like Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Peter, also Clement of Rome, Ignatius, Polycarp etc... and Paul also wrote about it (women weren't allowed to write at that time) but it's not only 1 testimony about 500, but 500 about 1 same thing... now if you want all 500+ people to write about that 1 testimony, then how do you even consider or trust any historical manuscript to be true!? That's just unreasonable
4)Again, you didn't even listen to the video, they were all atheists who tried to disprove the rising of Jesus and they all came to the conclusion that there is an undeniable evidence that ressurection really took place at that time, and they becoming Christians is just an additional information to imply how the journey to disprove Christianity led them to understand Jesus better and how important it is for their lives.
5) It couldn't be stolen because there were guards who were protecting it, there was a huge sealed stone and the disciples weren't highly trained thieves or soldiers to come and steal the body... on the other hand, to disprove their lie or that massive hoax, the Roman authorities could've shown the body and easily stop the lie from spreading.
I encourage you to read the Bible with open mind, there are even evidences outside of the Bible that confirm biblical stories (also the physical, archeological and historical evidences) and the Bible isn't just a story book, its literal style is not a fairytale but it's rather like any other historical piece, with the biggest collection of ancient Greek and Hebrew manuscripts...it's at least worth considering and checking. You don't have to be convinced, but you can at least make up your mind by understanding it first, without assuming things at first.
Though these are all great supplemental facts, I worry that someone would lean on logic rather than faith when coming to know the Lord.
God himself calls it a faith. I don’t believe we are to check our brains at the door of course, but when something such as Christs resurrection wasn’t proven to all the inhabitants of Israel and Rome (as Jesus very well could have), it makes me think that that was the point.
I believe God wants us to trust in Him, lean on Him, depend on Him. Again, this video gives lots of great reason to believe our faith, but I’d say it’s better to let Gods word and our spiritual experience lead us to Him rather than us thinking ‘well since the facts pan out, I guess this has to be true’.
So lets please be careful and be sure to bring it back to God at all times!
This! It leads us away from the true message.
You have a very vague grasp of historical accuracy- either you have embellished your description of Roman practices with details you have invented yourself; or you aren't able to tell the difference between basic fact, and imaginative reconstructions meant to make the story more compelling to people who aren't really interested in history.
Yes, the guy has a Trumpian kind of approach to truth and I suspect that he (and others like him) are not even conscious that they are making up stuff to fit their own preferreed narrative. The fact that it's all a concoction of lies and unjustified assumptions doesn't even enter their heads.
Where did you get that definition of a "guard"? As far as I know, "guard" COULD have meant the Roman equivalent of Barney Fife. And WHY would the Romans give a damn about the body, and WHY would they allow a dignified burial anyway? Typically, bodies of crucified criminals were left to rot. And what's the source for the 1,000 pound cover stone? Ultimately, the answer to your "proof" is, to quote YOU at 1:47, "the Bible SAID." Why should I consider the hearsay presented in the Bible as unimpeachable? I don't know who wrote the resurrection story and neither do you. The authors "Mark," "Luke," and "Matthew" are simply pseudonyms assigned to those books long after the purported events. And incidentally, the books themselves were written long after the purported events described.
Thank you for this important video! I can honestly say that I need this on repeat. You can always tell when the truth comes out because the enemy shows up in droves!
Have a blessed day, Mr. Parr!
More like delusional people come out of the wood work believing in myth and fable. They will also rationalize it to the bitter end. What a joke.
Well why don’t we go with doctor Dawkins his delusional way of explanation of how you can get something from nothing absolutely ridiculous
@@matthewgoddard5088 if you want to criticise science it helps to know what you are criticising. it's not science says "the universe came from nothing", in science everyone knows "nothing" can't happen, there is quantum fields and temperature, space is never empty, it's christians make the claim god pulled the universe out of his arse, so how did god get something from nothing, now that it's YOUR claim?
you obviously can't tell when the truth comes out because this guy is lying. there is no way to PROVE god, otherwise we'd all be flippin christians wouldn't we? even if god existed you can't prove he does however hard you try, cos god is hiding, you are meant to have FAITH not CERTAINTY, you don't even know how your own religion works. an atheist has to tell you.
Show your Jesus, then we can talk something from nothing.
These 5 claims are greatly inaccurate and deceptive. Parr should be ashamed of himself for making these claims.
The only thing shocking is that with so little evidence you can actually believe nonsense with your whole heart.
Believing with your whole heart that an explosion coming out of nothing and forming the sun to perfectly line up so that we don’t freeze or heat up to death, have such complex DNA and body systems, flowers, birds, trees, mountains, oceans, dogs, cats, etc. is what is ludicrous
@@djmath3w-7 amen
Cosmologist typically do not believe their theories with their whole heart. Alan Guth is quite clear when he says that his life's work on inflationary models could be complete nonsense if quantum gravity changes what we know about gravity. He is a very humble man.
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@@djmath3w-7 survivorship bias. "look at all these cyclists who wore helmets and received injuries. there must be a correlation between wearing a helmet and getting into crashes" (ignoring the disproportionate number of cyclists that didn't wear a helmet _and died)_
yes, it does seem incredible that we live on a planet that "just happens" to support life… but it isn't, really, if you think about it. it's like searching through a deck of cards until you find the 3 of clubs, and then declaring "wow, the 3 of clubs! the odds of me drawing this exact card were just 1 in 52". it doesn't matter how remote the possibility of life seems to be, if we're deliberately selecting for the scenario where that occurs.
@@ThePurpleGoose023 if you don’t believe in god then how do u think complex life was created our bodies are literally the most complex machinery to ever exist it would have to be created by an entity
I have three questions to ask:
1.what happened to the guard?
2.peter cuts a Roman ear off .what makes you think he can't attack a guard?
3.how can a guard be 10 -30 soldiers when we have the word guards in the gospel?
it's made up. people have been discussing this for centuries, it's all bollocks.
"If you're a black Christian, you have a real short memory." -- Chris Rock
@roasted pancakes "If you willingly follow an un-falsifiable ideology that was used to subjugate your ancestors, you're gonna have a bad time." - ThunderJuice
@roasted pancakes Exodus 21
Hey Allen, I am a new subscriber and I am just seeing this for the first time. I loved the video, especially your last point, I think about that almost everyday! One thing I did notice is a lot of hate in the comments from non believers. I just wanna say thank you for making these videos and not letting people bother you. I wish I could be more like that. God bless you Allen!
Whenever I hear the phrase 'undeniable proof' I think it is an exaggeration. This is simply so because anyone can deny something for whatever reason. You would be better to state that you have 'compelling evidence' and then let people be swayed by the evidence. This is how science works.
+Haggis McBaggis, writes _"You would be better to state that you have 'compelling evidence' and then let people be swayed by the evidence."_
Ah, there's the rub. He has no compelling evidence so all he can do is try to baffle with bullshit.
there is zero evidence for anything connected to religion and the supernatural, they have to make this stuff up because talking snakes is too ridiculous even for xians.
@@fred_derf How do you digest similar information relating to Galileo or Newton? Do you assume the same “nonsense” is taking place?
@@Ampraa We have written works by both Galileo or Newton, can show me works written by jesus?
@@fred_derf How can one rely on whom wrote what as that alone requires testimony for its historical validity. What makes the scriptures in the Bible any different?
♡♡♡♡♡ He is risen
Viced Rhino made a great response to this video!
Atheist don’t debunk anything, they just try to make it more complicated to the point where it makes no sense so they can say “debunked”.
@@deandreayton9754 well you aren't very clued up on atheists then are you.
there is zero evidence of any god, this guy is lying to you.
you wonder why people are leaving the church? because they are lied to and they can see it.
we don't have to complicate anything, no two christians can agree on any one point in the bible, that's your problem right there, people get told "the bible is perfect" and it's horse manure, not everyone is as big a tit head as you, people can see it's bollocks.
@@HarryNicNicholas you didn't give an actual reason the Bible is fake. Just because people can't agree on it doesn't mean it isn't true. Instead of attacking someone and name calling, please provide actual evidence
In Jesus name!!✝️
If you already believe the gospels to be true then this guy's evidence is worth listening to. If, like me, you believe the gospels to be fiction then analyzing them for evidence of the resurrection is like analyzing Jack and the Beanstalk to prove that there are giants
Lol, good reply. And since you can't prove giants don't exist...:)
So you just ignored 1ll the non-biblical evudence he mentioned. Ok. Loooool.
@@hudsonbartley2493 The "non-biblical" evidence are from a guy whose work doesn't claim Jesus raised from the dead but was just writing about what he heard these new Christians believed in while the other was a Christian who lived 1700 years after Jesus. How are those things "evidence" a guy rose from the dead?
@@goinggoinggone535Who?. You re ju5t regurgitting what you got off the internet. Prove it.
@@goinggoinggone5355o proving my point of ignoring all the evidence. Loooool.
"All the romans had to do was to present Jesus' body, and Christianity would be destroyed!"
1. Why would the romans want to do that?
2. Are you aware that people can believe things despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary?
It is the dumbest argument. If you can't produce the body of my fictional alien character, does that make the alien exist? Lol so bad and dumb.
I deny all 5.
Huh. Look at that. Turns out they are deniable. Weird.
While I think your points are valid, I think they could’ve been better, and I’m speaking as a Christian. There were better points you could’ve used. The precautions of the Romans aren’t mentioned outside of the Bible and they aren’t really needed in proving the resurrection, and you could’ve gone into more depth with Josephus and Tacitus and maybe the Talmud, definitely could’ve included the Corinthians creed from Jerusalem and Paul’s letters.
Thank you for this great video! These are such a good points to ponder. Very informative and spot on with biblical facts. Praise God for Jesus' resurrection. Truly our hope is not in vain.
no one comes back from the dead.
Ad a Christian I feel ashamed that I had to watch this video. Lord forgive me. When times are hard it’s so clear than I’m only human… but with a grain of your help and love I’m a child of God, born again and loved by you and with you forever.
Not your fault we live in a scary world atleast you looked for evidences and didn't just come to a conclusion
Lord forgive me that I needed evidence to believe.😂
He's alive in my heart! Amen!
Thars not enogh. Many peoplr are, alive in many peoples hearts Helirerally and physically alive. Amen'.
I spent 22 years in the church, and in my last year or two it really bugged me when preachers/apologists repeated the same debunked stuff that had been floating around Christian circles for decades.
When you say there were "500 eye-witnesses who saw Jesus," you are repeating something that many apologists have said for decades, and it's a wildly exaggerated statement. 1 person's testimony of what 500 others saw isn't 500 eye-witness accounts. It's 1 eye-witness account, and 500 accounts of hearsay.
Let me show you how this doesn't make your argument stronger: 10,000 people witnessed me be abducted by aliens. There! 10,000 eye witnesses! SUCH STRONG EVIDENCE /S!
You guys really are ignorant .... there are tons of proofs of him appearing to more than the 500 you all have never studied and know nothing of what the book truly says.... James jesus brother ... didnt believe in him until he Appeard after his death to him.... he then goes on to write the books and then dies as a martyr for his brother...... kinda hard to believe since he called him crazy in life ..... all the apostles also fled ..... jesus appears to them they all die .... crucified be headed boiled burned alive .... all for the man who appeared to them after his death.... you are all in denial .... this is just a few proofs of the true living word of God and I would debate anyone on the validity of the bible jesus resurrection creationism ... u name it .... the fact is all of you are un educated .... and dont like the truth
@@derekcochran8627 well said.
@@derekcochran8627 What proofs?
@@derekcochran8627
Ironically the vast majority of Christians are not Creationists.😂
Paul is the ONLY source that even mentions the appearance to the 500… he doesn’t give us their names and doesn’t even say that he talked to any of them.
For all we know it’s just a story that someone told him about.
Btw, the Bible isn’t evidence, the Bible is the claim.
So when it says that someone was boiled alive and survived unharmed then that’s just unverifiable hearsay.😂
Thank you very much, Allen!
All the best.
Matthew 16:18
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
Thx!!
I don't want to piss anyone off in the UA-cam comments section... So... I believe in God, but weakly sometimes, yet I can deny these "undeniable proofs".
If there were only "some evidence or proofs" of an event happening 2000 years ago, we probably cannot be certain, "sure", or confident of that event happening.
1. The "pre-caution of the Romans" is merely biblical. There are no non-biblical or secular accounts of this pre-caution. I say "merely biblical" because biblical texts are written more like myths and fictional stories we tell our children with exact accounts of what people did and said and they were written so long ago, we cannot be confident in them as witness testimony of what they claim was done or said. The Bible is not Facebook content.
2. The "faith of the disciples" could only show that Jesus Christ had a cult following (a group of fanboys) who would make outrageous or extraordinary claims about their leader without extraordinary evidence.
3. The people who saw Jesus Christ in their minds WERE hallucinating. But, it's only delusional if they believed the disciples in respect to Jesus' resurrection on the sole basis of those hallucinations.
4. Historians make many claims about people, ideas, and events they don't provide much evidence for. Future historians will be making false claims even with the evidence of internet content to work with. I would be more convinced by a Christian historian or writer who gave more complete evidence in his or her writings. On that last point in the video for this section, I don't feel the need to follow the Atheists turned specifically Christian off the worldview cliff.
5. A very "Aha!" argument. If Jesus rose from the dead, then his remains clearly WOULDN'T be able to be found.
Don't get me wrong! Jesus Christ can and could and may have lived 2000 years ago. People have lived on this planet since... people began! From the writings of the gospel, we can more simply conclude that had Jesus lived, he had a cult following claiming he performed miracle healing and was risen from the dead. There are no corroborative historical accounts or archaeological findings that prove Jesus healed people and was resurrected. From the accounts of his childhood (during which he was quite the philosopher) and his moral teachings, a cult following of disciples is likely.
Great analysis!
I and thousands of other people are the antidote to the Lee Strobel example. I was a Christian who set out to read numerous Christian apologetics books to strengthen my understanding of the "evidence" of my faith. I had an obligation under 1 Peter 3:15 to have a good response for why I believed. I ended up realizing everything apologists said was garbage and stopped being a Christian.
If you're going to read an apologetics book, at least follow it up by reading the numerous counter arguments and responses to the content in those books. If you don't know what to read, ask an atheist forum.
aviatortrevor - I truly and honestly believe that there really is only one book you need to read in order to become an atheist - *the Bible.*
Any honest, reasonable person who reads the New Testament _for themselves_ will come to the obvious conclusion: *It's just a story.*
And the New Testament is not very long either. It's a fairly quick read, less than Tolkien's _The Hobbit_ fur example.
Just as an example of an absurdity, take *Acts 15,* where it describes the conclusion to the Apostle's decades long argument over whether _circumcision is mandatory._ The events described in Acts 15 take place about 20 years after Jesus was crucified, and in the lead-up, the apostle Paul is the only one insisting that circumcision is optional. _Every other apostle disagrees with Paul before Acts 15._
And Paul is the only apostle who never saw Jesus when he was alive, which would, normally be a strong indication that Paul was wrong and all the others were right.
But in Acts 15 Paul tells of his success in winning converts to Christianity outside of Jerusalem, and this argument wins the day. All the other apostles fall in line with Paul and they declare, as a group, that circumcision isn't required and that letters must be written to all the other churches in the Roman Empire stating this decision that they just made as being the final truth.
Now ... is that _really_ the way a god makes doctrinal decisions? Why does success in winning converts carry the day against the wishes of everyone except Paul - someone who never saw Jesus alive and was the newest convert?
If their god really wanted to change the rules for it's own religion, then why didn't Jesus himself just say that circumcision wasn't required decades before the apostles finally stopped fighting their doctrinal war over circumcision?
Any honest, reasonable person will conclude that it's clearly just a bunch of dudes making up stuff to get more followers. The idea that some all-powerful, all-knowing god was being correctly represented by that rabble of apostles is just _absurd!_
*The road to atheism is paved with Bibles that have actually been **_read._*
Great video. Thank you!
Blessings
This is 10000% proof man thanks for doing this brother
That is not possible. 100% is the most proof you can have for something.
Great video brother:) Well done.
Love the proof and your enthusiasm...thank you
Thankyou for your help I got alot of firepower of other people of secular belief and other belief.
Hey Allen,
I think it appropriate, you acquire understanding of the word "Fallacy!!!"
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Scientific claims require scientific evidence. This is both and has neither kind of evidence.
Great video, well explained brother ignore the negative comments. God will soon reveal Himself to them!
i hope not, i want nothing to do with anyone who makes excuses for a guy who drowns babies.
When?
Great video!! Thank you!!
This has helped me. I will check out these references. I have been searching for the truth all my life and I'm just not feeling it.
Very few people search for happiness rather than truth, keep searching :)
S a m e
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Hallelujah. This is my favorite video.
You know you're saying that the impossible is more likely than the unlikely right? You do know that's what you're saying??
Yes. If you're an atheist (not saying you are), you would say the impossible is more likely than the unlikely any time you mention creation without a creator.
@@jessemendoza4647 lol, never heard an atheist claim "creation" without a creator. Just idiots that don't know how to think and assume something existing means it has to be a "creation"... it doesn't. Are you one of those idiots? (don't answer that, i don't really care)
@@SuperRand13 So you would conclude that there was a cause to the universe, but you know know what it is?
@@jessemendoza4647 noone knows if the universe was caused. It may be infinite. It may just have popped into existence.
We know fuck all about "before" this universe. To suggest we do and even enough to make a judgment on how the universe exists is to be grossly mistaken or outright dishonest.
These are not proof of anything - just assertions. Stick to faith (John 20:29) as the basis for your belief - for with faith you can believe anything.
The brain can only survive 6 minutes without brain damage. So being dead for 3 days is impossible.
With God nothing is impossible ❤️🤲🏾☺️ , Jesus did rise from the dead and He’s coming back.
@@kamtorosam5742 lol no
@@ivanaquino9661 @kamtorosam is right.
@@kamtorosam5742 he definitely did....but Friday to Sunday is not 3 days like y'all say it is.....just count....that's only 2 days not 3
@@Sherita520. Jewish count days differently
Outstanding, well explained.
Pastor Allen thank you so much! I'm always blessed through you. I watch every video that I can.
I don’t need proof, I have faith in something that I haven’t seen and I will believe in Jesus, but this video is good for people who need “evidence” to believe
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i need proof though, demonstrate god to me.
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@@HarryNicNicholas so how did the universe begin?
@@Anonymous-fv1qkwho cares. Where's god?
Proofs......!?!?! I certainly wouldn't want you sitting on a Jury!!!!!!!
Thank you
So if Jesus was never resurrected, where was His body??
If space aliens didn't create the Bermuda Triangle, who did?
They ate it in church 😂😂
If he was a historical person, then it is possible he was thrown into a mass grave or buried in a tomb somewhere and forgotten. The Jesus of the NT could be an amalgam of historical people.
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3:02 this verse makes no sense. The Bible was written after all of the story was over. Why would Jesus, knowing that by the time the story was written the people would all be dead- claim that as his proof? You would have no way of asking them.
If you think this is "shocking proof"...do some roleplaying. Pretend for a moment that you are a hard-core Atheist and watch your video. Think of what a complete non-believer in Jesus, God and THE BIBLE would think of your 'proof'.
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Hint: Atheists don't believe in God or the bible...so trying to use either as proof of itself just makes you look dumb. Pr Tip: When trying to convince a non-believer, the first thing you need to do is toss the bible aside and don't refer or use ANYTHING in it to try and back your points up. It's akin to me pointing to a Harry Potter book and saying "See? Right there...it tells you what a patronis is. And if it's in this book, then you know it's fact that patronis' are real....because the book is".
How do you think it should be proven
@@yaznijalan647 Physical evidence and facts coming from sources that don't care about religious beliefs. It would be nice to have non-Christian writings from historians of the time of Jesus ( year 0 +/- 30) to corroborate any of the Gospels. There aren't any. It would be nice to have a 1st-person account of anything in the bible....there isn't. Jesus never actually "says" anything in the bible....it's all other people saying "Jesus said..." and "Jesus did...". To make matters worse, all the "Book of..." writers never even met Jesus except for one possibility: Paul. And even his Gospels are seriously in question. The Bible was written multiple decades AFTER Jesus had died. Think about that.
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For example...: What if you decided to write a book about, say, the beginning of the transistor radio in the mid-50's (when they started to be 'shown to the world'). Now, write that book...but you aren't allowed to use any internet, no books, no video's or movies, no audio recordings and no writings by the actual people who pioneered them. You can only talk face to face with people who may have had a father or grandfather who was one of those pioneers. ... ... How accurate do you think their portrayal would be? Hell, just ask your father about some incident you remember happening when you were a kid (not even a teen), and see how close his memory of it relates to what you remember.
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Memories are quite faulty. It's human nature to "fix messy stuff our brain doesn't like". We do it subconsciously. It's why people have bias for/against stuff. Our brains don't care much for facts that don't relate directly to our survival or our happiness (the 3 F's; Food, Family and Fornication).
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So, pointing to a book written over decades, by different people, who never knew Jesus, decades after Jesus supposedly died and was resurrected, with only "word-of-mouth" from followers who believed in him with all their heart....yeah...not exactly "historical facts" if you ask me.
Wow, you type quickly! I went searching for better evidence of his existence and I found this; www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/people-cultures-in-the-bible/jesus-historical-jesus/did-jesus-exist/
@@yaznijalan647 Yes. I've read that. The first problem...it's obviously going to be so bias that it only shows/supports "proof Jesus existed"; the website name gives it away.
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The second problem is that the first 'proof', about Tacitus's last work where he writes about "jesus"...was written in 116-117 CE/AD...which would have been, what, 85 years after Jesus's death? Besides that...it states that Tacitus was "Christus", from which the Christians named themselves. That name, Christus is a translateive name from other languages. Here's a web-blurb I found explaining how common the name "Jesus" was in/around the time of his death:
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Many people shared the name. Christ’s given name, commonly Romanized as Yeshua, was quite common in first-century Galilee. (Jesus comes from the transliteration of Yeshua into Greek and then English.) Archaeologists have unearthed the tombs of 71 Yeshuas from the period of Jesus’ death. The name also appears 30 times in the Old Testament in reference to four separate characters-including a descendent of Aaron who helped to distribute offerings of grain (2 Chronicles 31:15) and a man who accompanied former captives of Nebuchadnezzar back to Jerusalem (Ezra 2:2).
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..So a book written almost a century later translated a language name three times....Roman to Greek to English; during which there are sounds and leters that are simply not part of the others (e.g., Greek did not use the sound "sh", so a simple "s" was used...Yesua which sounds 'feminine', I guess, in Greek, so they added another S and dropped the A...Yesus...which then gets translated to English as Jesus). So, "there was a guy called Jesus" isn't exactly true or false. There were quite a few people with the name Yeshua (as noted above, 71).
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And I've only touched on the FIRST thing in the page/link you gave me. This is why we need evidence from people who don't have any horse in the race, so to say. Someone who doesn't care if Jesus existed or not...which pretty much rules out all Christians, Christian sites, and Christian literature.
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The Second 'proof' on that page says the following:...
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Highlighted above is the Latin text reading “… whom the crowd called ‘Chrestians.’ The founder of this name, Christ, had been executed in the reign of Tiberius by the procurator Pontius Pilate …”
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HUGE problem here. It's basically some guy saying "...some people said a guy was killed by Pontius Pilate...". LOL! No kidding? Ya don't say...a Roman leader giving the order to one of his soldiers to kill someone who would have been considered a 'seditionist' or 'anrach' who wanted to destroy the entire Roman way of life and obliterate all their sacred beliefs, holy scriptures, gods and mythology? Huh....
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Anyway...that's enough I think. :) The bottom line...we need to find "factual evidence that results in a high degree of certainty". I'm sorry to say that "some guys said Romans killed another guy who other guys said was a demigod of a never before heard of deity...and someone wrote down a similar name a hundred years later...so it must be true..."....well, doesn't quite fit the bill. ;)
Hmm, interesting, thanks for sharing your thought process/ analysis ~
Very insightful
I deny your 5 proofs.
Wow, that was easier than I thought based on the title of the video...
Just because you deny it doesn’t make it no longer true.
@@unrelatedkin it means the opening title "5 Undeniable Proofs of Jesus' Resurrection" is not true.
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Even most Christian historians think that there were no guards at the tomb… because they are only mentioned the the gospels of Matthew an NOWHERE else.
So his first claim already fails… just because the Bible says so doesn’t make it true.😂
@@ramigilneas9274 For the sake of argument I’ll concede the guard argument for now. Now riddle me this, Jesus certainly was killed on the cross right?
@@devb9912 Yes just by denying them they are not true. Sure.
Quick theological questions: after Jesus rose from the dead, did he die later in life?
Hey Marlee, thanks for that question. The Bible says that He never died again. He ascended into the clouds after spending 40 days on the earth after his resurrection to give convincing proofs of his resurrection. Check out Acts 1:6-11 (specifically v. 9). Thanks and keep the questions coming!
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"JC, stick with the prod"
…shit, does this mean that paul denton was a protestant?
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So all your "shocking proofs" come from the Bible?
That would be the definition of "preaching to the choir". As an exercise in affirming one's faith it may work. But as "proof" it's useless to those needing proof.
Maybe your best bet is to just stick with taking it all on faith and not try to justify your beliefs with spurious "proof".
And I’d like to see you try and disprove it.
@@Mike00513 The burden of proof falls on the people using the bible to prove it. Can you disprove all of the Egyptian writings about their gods. You need to give more evidence than a inconsistent book written decades after the events it talks about.
Great points.
All I can say is Amen.
Egwene al-Vere sacrificed herself for us. This is proved because there is a book describing this, as well as thirteen earlier books setting the scene (for those of you wondering, look up Wheel of Time by Robert Jordan). I think that nearly all the arguments given in this video apply there as well, so that proves it.
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Um I hope you know that is a tv show created by a Episcopalian…. Laws of Logic applies that all religions cannot be true . Only one can be true or all are false.
Um I hope you know that is a tv show created by a Episcopalian…. Laws of Logic applies that all religions cannot be true . Only one can be true or all are false.
@@timothyyost4009 Um I hope you know that the TV show is based on some books. And the show didn't even exist when I wrote the original comment. So really no idea what you are trying to show here.
-Quick! A terrified and afraid group of few fishermen and their wives, hiding for their lives, are going to stole the body of a nailed carpenter!
-By Apollo! Let us prevent that... by allowing them to put the body inside a tomb where no one can see it, instead of letting the corpse rot outside while nailed, for everyone to see and place guards around.
-Gee! Brilliant idea.
A wise response. If the Sanhedrin were truly concerned about disciples stealing the body, they would have voiced it before Pilate gave up custody of the body, in which case the obviously best way to preempt resurrection rumors is to leave the body on the cross until the 3 day prophecy is no longer possible to fulfill, or else make sure hostile custody of the body remains intact for those 3 days.
The Romans respected the Jewish ways of burial. And the Jews couldn't just let a rotting corpse outside to defile the land, according to Jewish law and especially not before one of the most holy celebrations of the Jews, the Passover.
@@rafaeliacsity5315 Even granting that fantasy, if the Romans suspected their disciples could (against any logic) stole the body, would never lose sight of it.
Better rotten in a mount, than hidden!
But, as the earlier gospel say, the disciples were the ones afraid and hidden.
The stories do not add up, a clear sign of later embellishment.
Once you realize it, cannot believe it anymore.
Any real God would know that.
@@TheCheapPhilosophy The Romans knew were the body was, they guarded the tomb and they put not only the stone, but also a roman seal. They never lost sight of the body. Besides, the Gospel tell a straight forward story, so where are the contradictions and embellishment?
@@rafaeliacsity5315 He couldn’t answer you! 😂 that’s a common theme amongst secularist.
Not to mention no amount of animal sacrifices could ever pay the debt of sin for humanity “who is made in Gods image” which holds the highest and greatest in worth. Only God Himself through the Son Jesus Christ who is infinite in worth could pay the debt of sin once and for all for it is finished, fully satisfied and paid in full! In His resurrection He thereby defeated death and sin once and for all and demonstrated the greatest most ultimate love for us sinful humans. For God demonstrated His own love for us, in that while we were still yet sinners, Christ died for us! Glory to God Almighty!
What you have is 5 of the least convincing arguments EVER. WOW do you have any concept of proof ?
No concept of truth... and couldn't care less.
What do you want? A video from their cameras? Maybe some photos from their sc stories that day? Seriously? 😂
To Exiled_Londoner: excellent comment! I thoroughly enjoyed your keen observations. Well done!
Thanks for posting this. I needed a good laugh.
It wasn't designed to bring a laugh but I'm glad it impacted you in some way. Thank you for taking time to watch.
for a start i don't "have to believe" anything. i love apologists, you make more atheists than atheists, even followers of the christian mythology can see you're basically lying for god. there are no "proofs" of god, never have been and as he is imaginary, there never will be.
Thomas Arnold wrote his "History of Rome" in the 19th. century; not exactly a contemporary of the apostles. We have a single story of Jews requesting that Rome post a guard; that doesn't mean the story is true. Joe Smith died for his faith. So Mormonism is true?
1. Secular history my friend, not contemporary.
2. Doesn't make it false either.
3. J Smith didn't die for his faith. Neither has any of his followers.
The purpose of crucifixion was to show everybody that what this person did was really bad and the bodies were left on the crosses to rot oftentimes they would be eaten upon by birds and other animals. Humiliation and being denied the dignity of burial - that is what crucifixion meant. I highly doubt an exception was made in this case.
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All refuted...the Romans didn't care about an alleged criminal..
They wouldn't put a batallion of guards around a dead man ...how rediculous ... the apostles are written into the bible as stupid men, not fearful men, but even so they were all upstaged by the 13rd disciple Paul as his visions trumped anything the apostles would have known....enough....this guy is a liar or doesn't know the stories
Your premise is at fault. Firstly, you have to prove Jesus existed, that this was the same man as the figure from your holy text, then that this man was in fact "the son of God". THEN and ONLY then does your question even hold validity.
That's right. There are stupid questions.
But maybe you're not trying to convince anyone but a Christian, in which case, have at it.
Jesus did exist. He is a historycal fugure. Historians wrote about Him and His story can also be found in the talmud, which is an anti christian book of oral laws snd stories passed down from generation to generation. In the time of Jesus, people were trying to prove His divinity, not his existence. Do you think Paul got beheaded for believing Jesus existed or for believing He was the divine Son of God?
Your initial 2 points are the same and you've offered nothing to back them up.
Also, "a book of Oral laws...." well which is it? A book or oral laws? That point doesn't help your case, because it's a paradox.
Regarding Paul.... prove to me that he even existed or stop wasting both of our time.
Do you even know what it is. The talmud was stories and laws passed down for thousands of years and it contains the story of Jesus. Use your brain
Thanks for a great comment.
"Do you even know what it is. [There should be a Question Mark, here, not a Full Stop/Period. They look like this ?]
The talmud [Talmud. If its a title of a book then the "t" is a Capital] was [were] stories and laws passed down for thousands of years and it [they] contains [contain] the story of Jesus. Use your brain" [Shame you had to end like that after such a uneducated response. A real shame]
Do I know what The Talmud is? No. No I don't know. But what you also don't seem to know is your assertion of its existence, your interpretation of its words & your claim of its authors and their alignments are still just claims. YOU haven't shown me anything. Not even a link.
This IS what using your brain looks like. After how poorly written your comment was, I wouldn't be surprised to learn you have the title wrong. But maybe not. Maybe.
But if you think me having not read every book in existence isn't using my brain, then I guess you've read all the fine works of the Satanists?
You ignoring the evidence. The talmud is Jewish. It is msde up of stories, laws, and traditions passed down from the time of Moses, or that's what the Jews claim. They contain the story of Jesus. No it is not christian. They say awful insults to Jesus. But they say theee things. Jesus existed, He was crucified by Pilate, and that his tomb was found empty. The Jew's excuse was that the decsiples stole His body. Which dosen't make sense. Just accept the facts.
Im a Christian. But I can't agree with using the Bible as a means to prove the Bible. It just doesn't get far with skeptics.
It shouldn't get far with Christians either but the reasons are personal, not logical.
@@tornay131 atheist?
@@theepicenter4106 yes.
I've believed things that made me feel better. It propped me up. Got me through it. Stopped me from growing. Learning. Moving on.
Shared on Easter Sunday, 2021. It's on Facebook for as long as Facebook will allow it.
They'll keep it up forever. Easier sheep to heard.
Most Christian scholars think Mark is the earliest gospel
Most Christian scholars think authentic Mark ends at 16:8
Therefore, it cannot be unreasonable to conclude that the earliest gospel said nothing about a risen Christ being seen by anyone.
Therefore, it cannot be unreasonable to conclude that the only reason later gospels contain more detail is because they are embellishing the earlier story.
I have formed a video response, shall link below.
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2:30 you’re assuming they had the option to denounce him before death. Being a disciple of Jesus would of given you a social standing among Christians. So they would have had a reason to play along with the resurrection. And when they were captured they were probably never given the option to denounce him.
How come? What about how they live, they didn't take advantage of ruling over Christians they was perscuated many times and after they reached brink of death and survived they just kept on preaching with the same poor way of living...
Hmm that doesn't seem like taking advantage over Christians
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