Legacy Character Cutscenes (English) - Final Fantasy XIV - A Realm Reborn

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  • @SirChicky
    @SirChicky 3 роки тому +378

    Man what I would do to have a legacy character. That beginning is so cool!

    • @Cyril86
      @Cyril86 2 роки тому +31

      Yeah, in retrospect I wish I had played 1.0 but, of course, back then no one had any idea Realm Reborn would even be a thing.

    • @luciandrakaris6603
      @luciandrakaris6603 2 роки тому +14

      @@Cyril86 I wish i had a legacy char too...
      But i need to be honest too... i know myself i would have played it for a bit and stopped and not touched it again without the "bad memories"
      ... maybe i wouldn't have the fun i have now in the game then ^^
      So, on one hand, i am sad that i don't have all that what the legacy players enjoyed but on the other hand, i am happy that i have a great time in ff :D

    • @AstralHyren
      @AstralHyren 2 роки тому +17

      I had a legacy character and saw these cutscenes with my paladin. I can tell you now that the feeling was surreal, but I'll echo the above statements. ARR as a skeleton...structurally...was better than 1.0. It wasn't until Stormblood that I started playing consistently. While I'm on the subject, 1.0 had some beautiful areas with amazing music. I hear some of the 1.0 soundtracks creep in occasionally in our current cutscenes.

    • @AceStrife
      @AceStrife 2 роки тому +5

      Same, I have a legacy character with the tattoo.
      Except I don't have a legacy, because I didn't subscribe to the 1.0 version for 3 months (no discount sub), nor finish the MSQ, so I'm just a generic 2.0 character in the story.
      No amount of trying to contacting SE support over the last decade has ever changed any part of this.

    • @RG9T8
      @RG9T8 2 роки тому +4

      @@AceStrife I'm in the same boat would explain why I never seen any of these cutscenes

  • @HCSR2
    @HCSR2 2 роки тому +288

    What I'd give to have Minfilia walk up to me and tell me "Welcome home."
    I'll never understand why people hate her so.

    • @tatersalad76
      @tatersalad76 2 роки тому +66

      Probably for the same reason people hate Tataru. If they aren't running around slitting throats and killing gods, they're seen as dead weight. Even if they're the sole reason the Warrior of Light isn't a homeless person on the streets

    • @Mellow_Owl
      @Mellow_Owl 2 роки тому +58

      @@tatersalad76 As some one who dislikes Minfilia, it's not that trust me. It's literally the same reason you love her. You had a lot more time with her. You saw her beginning. I didn't. I just saw an average character that was being portrayed as important, but I simply didn't get it. She isn't a BAD character, but without the same attachments you have to her, most people who never played 1.0 will feel differently about these characters. Just that simple. A lot of us aren't on a bandwagon or hating her because its fashionable. xD To me, she is just another unremarkable NPC. I didn't even feel sad about her death. :/ Took me a while to warm up to most of the scions that came from the previous version, to be honest.

    • @richardshiflett5181
      @richardshiflett5181 2 роки тому +7

      Minfillia is great. Miss her fine self

    • @toastedbabybuns1000
      @toastedbabybuns1000 2 роки тому +29

      @@tatersalad76 I like Tataru, even if she is 'useless'. She at LEAST has some personality about her, while Minfilia has about as much personality and character development as a piece of cardboard. Everything about her character design (save for her fan service outfit), her voice, and her lines just scream boring, compared to the other characters you see in game.

    • @tatersalad76
      @tatersalad76 2 роки тому +2

      @@Mellow_Owl I mean, good for you man. I'm just saying why a lot of newer players didn't like her in 2.0. They didn't like that someone who didn't participate in combat was more or less their boss

  • @Amayawolf_01
    @Amayawolf_01 3 роки тому +216

    I love how smug Cid is in the legacy cutscenes, between officially recognizing you and revealing to everyone else that he knew all along lmao

    • @Gamemaster-64
      @Gamemaster-64 2 роки тому +5

      Wonder having amnesia blocked what made everyone forget.

    • @weberman173
      @weberman173 2 роки тому +6

      @@Gamemaster-64 tbf, it could just as well be because he is a garlean and has precious little/no magical power.
      It all depends what exactly hydelin did to make people forget.

    • @Zack_Wildfire
      @Zack_Wildfire 2 роки тому +4

      @@weberman173 it was later explained in Endwalker that magic played a role in it almost like a lock but for words, even after it was unlocked people forget it's not like you spent much time outside the main and side characters they also retold your Job quests from 1.0 almost frame by frame so meeting some people got retconned especially back ground characters.

  • @Polychromatic8
    @Polychromatic8 2 роки тому +202

    That last cutscene was epic. Makes me wish I played 1.0. Then I remember what it was like and I'm okay with just watching this video lol

    • @Simplemalk
      @Simplemalk 2 роки тому +3

      Yeah, you really don't, lol.

    • @wolfiewolfdog9771
      @wolfiewolfdog9771 Рік тому +2

      You dont know what it was like cause you didnt experience it.
      It was a fun time despite being broken/unfinished.

  • @BlindGardener
    @BlindGardener 2 роки тому +68

    Minfilia has the talent that whatever she says, I have no clue what she just told me.

  • @Lee.Moriya
    @Lee.Moriya 2 роки тому +32

    Wow I had no idea there were this many unique cutscenes. I had thought it was only the intro that was different, that's next level.

  • @burnout02urza
    @burnout02urza 2 роки тому +120

    1:10
    > Just an ordinary day
    > A hobo in scorched armor stumbles down the pier
    > "Where am I? When am I? What year is this?"
    > Clearly he's seen some shit

  • @NewAnderL
    @NewAnderL 2 роки тому +17

    Words can't describe how much i envy legacy players right now...

  • @BBrawler101
    @BBrawler101 2 роки тому +30

    Man, makes me wonder if Thancred remembers the 1.0 days. Since he's recovering from being possessed by Lahabrea, we never see Hydaelyn 'lift the shroud' so to speak.

  • @todddollasign5635
    @todddollasign5635 2 роки тому +43

    God that voice acting… they improved it so much by endwalker😂😂 I still love it though

    • @jermafan111
      @jermafan111 2 роки тому +6

      oh my god right it’s almost jarring

    • @suplexsuarez3384
      @suplexsuarez3384 2 роки тому +1

      As someone who just started Heavensward I'm happy to hear this news

    • @Monstergirl-ologist
      @Monstergirl-ologist 2 роки тому +4

      I actually really like how yshtola over annunciates in arr lol

    • @lorenzolyleabadia1669
      @lorenzolyleabadia1669 2 роки тому +7

      @@suplexsuarez3384 It was in Heavensward that that they changed most of the voice actors from A Realm Reborn then used those new voice actors till to this day.
      So yeah, Heavensward is the start of the great voice acting. Although, I did preferred the original voice actor of Yugiri but sadly that voice actress had quite a tragic death.

    • @biggrayalien4791
      @biggrayalien4791 Рік тому +1

      ​@@lorenzolyleabadia1669 Murdered by her husband. That was shocking to hear, can't imagine how that must have impacted her family

  • @keiyangoshin3650
    @keiyangoshin3650 2 роки тому +30

    Excellent video quality. I’m quite jealous that I never recorded my own first experience of this game. As it happens I don’t remember this and maybe I never got these specific cutscenes. Even more reason to be happy they are now here for safe keeping. Thank you! ❤️

    • @tiberia0001
      @tiberia0001 2 роки тому +3

      you can litterally watch them ingame if you have a legacy char...

    • @keiyangoshin3650
      @keiyangoshin3650 2 роки тому +7

      @@tiberia0001 - Thank you for confirming this! You know I keep forgetting we have the journal in the Inn room. It’s silly I know. 😅 But thank you so much for reminding me of it because now I can have my old nostalgic video. 🥺

  • @markoosh
    @markoosh 2 роки тому +44

    I have 2 legacy characters but they were low levels, so I started a new one in ARR...
    found out years later, I could've experienced these cutscenes if I continued playing my older characters lmao

    • @EverfreeFire
      @EverfreeFire 2 роки тому +3

      These cutscenes would only trigger if you had finished the 1.0 storyline. As someone who continued on a Legacy character, nothing was different compared to a brand new character.

    • @markoosh
      @markoosh 2 роки тому +6

      @@EverfreeFire Oh? my character had these scenes. I didn't do any story lol

    • @EverfreeFire
      @EverfreeFire 2 роки тому +1

      @@markoosh Mine did not, so...Dunno what to tell you.

    • @markoosh
      @markoosh 2 роки тому +2

      @@EverfreeFire I did relog it in 2012 maybe that did it xD

    • @EverfreeFire
      @EverfreeFire 2 роки тому +2

      @@markoosh Hmm. I do have a legacy character still waiting on the forced story changes all legacy players had to poke at. I wonder if that would show something different. I may have to test.

  • @suplexsuarez3384
    @suplexsuarez3384 2 роки тому +42

    Thanks for this, since starting this game I wondered if legacy players would get any kind of special treatment for continuing their story. It's great to see Square Enix taking care of their OG's, even if it's a few extra scenes and lines of dialogue.

    • @CeejayPanduh
      @CeejayPanduh 2 роки тому +9

      all legacy characters also have a distinct tattoo in game just under their neck on their back!

    • @wolfiewolfdog9771
      @wolfiewolfdog9771 Рік тому +1

      They got a tattoo, a mount, and other exclusive bonuses.

    • @WubstahWulf
      @WubstahWulf Рік тому +2

      @@wolfiewolfdog9771 yep a cheaper sub pricing and thats all pretty much other than the legacy mark and the chocobo and if they have done the special event for the goobue in 1.0 that also carried over

  • @isbammoi3358
    @isbammoi3358 Рік тому +3

    Gotta say I'm grateful I was too young to know about or pay for this or that game. Makes me feel less bad about having 'missed out on the chance' to have this myself so to speak. Cause even if I could go back in time or whatever, not like it'd make a difference lol. Thanks for the upload, I'm just glad to even get to see this, what a cool thing and great gift for people who played through and payed for a game in a horrific state. That a lot of people wish they could have or experience some/all legacy stuff is a testament.

  • @OoakieDoke
    @OoakieDoke 2 роки тому +7

    Thank you for this, I wasn't able to get my old account back due to not remembering my old information. But I would've had a legacy character. Good to see these

  • @NimbleWimbIe
    @NimbleWimbIe 2 роки тому +5

    wow so minfillia actually remembered the WoL o.o

  • @darshio8307
    @darshio8307 11 місяців тому +1

    I love how it follows the teleport scene from the arr cutscenes

  • @starryskies9655
    @starryskies9655 2 роки тому +11

    Fuck, this is so astronomically cool, I didn’t know this was a thing.

  • @JBloom91
    @JBloom91 Рік тому +5

    Man I wanted to play XIV when it first dropped, but I had no means to do so. Damn shame.

  • @jakoski
    @jakoski 2 роки тому +29

    I wish I could have been there back in the 1.0 days. I wish I could have been there in the beginning...and in the end.

  • @NeoZanther
    @NeoZanther 3 роки тому +15

    I was bard so my stating CS was different. Should go watch it again lol.

  • @artemicionkupo4367
    @artemicionkupo4367 5 місяців тому

    thank you so much for this!

  • @Precaricat
    @Precaricat 2 роки тому +2

    4:40 Wacky waving irritable arm flailing toad man

  • @RinIshi7
    @RinIshi7 2 роки тому +14

    I wish I knew my login still. I was there at the final days of 1.0, but I honestly don't know what my login was from back then. I have my beta test login for ARR, but that's it :(

  • @Hellbreaker777
    @Hellbreaker777 2 роки тому +11

    Man, it would be nice, since they added new game+ in ff xiv, if they added one for the 1.0 story so people who missed out on it could experience it with 2.0+ mechanics.

    • @MrBester23
      @MrBester23  2 роки тому +17

      1.0 was a totally different game. They can‘t just add the old story.
      And for the question of having 1.0 servers again Yoshi-P‘s answer was „Nightmare“

    • @chefdano3474
      @chefdano3474 2 роки тому +8

      That's expansion pack territory. the original game was built on Square's super failed Crystal Tools game engine and was vastly different than what we have now. The world map designs were awful, confusing, somehow being simultaneously cluttered and barren, and, more importantly, canonically vastly different. Coerthas for example, was lush green (wide open and mostly featureless) area, and was only turned into the frozen snow lands that we know in ARR because of the calamity. Not to mention all the areas with the corrupted crystals and fragments of Dalamund that fell from Bahamut's destruction jutting out everywhere. The point being, they can't just reuse the assets they made for ARR, they'd have to remake a lot if not all of the zones to resemble what they looked like before the calamity happened.
      Now that the main story has wrapped up, it's not impossible that they consider doing a "Prequal" expansion, but It seems like they're focusing on the future of the world before looking into the past. I do hope that at some point they would do it, because it would be kinda cool. maybe as the final expansion they release for the game, kinda like a final look back at how it all started.

  • @ashathlok829
    @ashathlok829 2 роки тому +3

    One of these days they'll stick to a voice actor for Cid ;3;

  • @shinra6913
    @shinra6913 3 роки тому +18

    sad part is i actually had a 1.0 character. didn't get very far as it wasn't that good and being a lil kid i'd rather play something else. came back to ff14 just before stormblood n had to start anew as i no longer had access to the email address used for the og account. missed my chance to be a legacy player T^T

    • @MrBester23
      @MrBester23  3 роки тому +8

      That‘s sad. But I can understand it. 1.0 was so bad that it was tough to stay until the end.

  • @FinnOtaku
    @FinnOtaku 2 роки тому +32

    Wait, what determines where legacy characters end up when they start Realm Reborn? I've been looking into different uploads that feature legacy specific cutscenes, but almost every video I've seen showcasing legacy cutscenes starts with the Legacy WoL entering Limsa Lominsa. Had it not been for _one_ video that shows the WoL ending up in Gridania, I would've thought that every 1.0 player just starts their Realm Reborn story from Limsa Lominsa by default.

    • @deiticides
      @deiticides 2 роки тому +22

      it depends on the starting city they chose from the beginning of ffxiv 1.0 pretty sure

    • @peace0life544
      @peace0life544 2 роки тому +9

      Actually it's the same as creating a new character, you still get to choose what job to be when you first log in, and which you choose will become your starting city. I actually forgot and started as pugilist and ended up in Ul'dah, when my 1.0 char was originally from Gridania lol

  • @crystalf1608
    @crystalf1608 2 роки тому +4

    aahhh, microsoft-e-senna, how we dont miss you ;p

  • @burnout02urza
    @burnout02urza 2 роки тому +11

    19:25
    "Aw yeah, a hot Elf chick in thigh-highs!"
    "...Wait, that's not a chick"

  • @MySnakeisSolidus
    @MySnakeisSolidus 2 роки тому +17

    "Words cannot express the joy I feel" -Said Minfilia, the robot

  • @Leemmmm
    @Leemmmm 2 роки тому +2

    Welcome and well met

    • @mintpanda1
      @mintpanda1 11 місяців тому

      my brave little spark

  • @karurosu4121
    @karurosu4121 2 роки тому +25

    im super curious when you start the game as a legacy char do you keep the gear on that you had when the server shut down and does it become lvl 1 gear? how did they do that?

    • @MrBester23
      @MrBester23  2 роки тому +53

      You had the same gear and all your inventory you had when the servers shut down. You even kept all you Job levels. I bagann ARR as level 50 warrior. But you had to do all the questing. You could have had all jobs at level 50 and still had to get the level 1 quest at the guild to be able to unlock the Job change

    • @zenixvampirchik652
      @zenixvampirchik652 2 роки тому +4

      @@MrBester23 lol, it's kinda cool though. Like yeah, u staring from the bottom, but your char quite powerful and expeirenced already, which makes sense...

    • @mirschannel6752
      @mirschannel6752 2 роки тому +8

      gear wise you keep everything, even resources that are no longer in use, green and higher rarity armour and weapons are the same and simply altered to the stats used in ARR whilst grey and crafted armour and weapons are listed as "Dated " with no stats and simply kept for glamour purposes

  • @Cortaxify
    @Cortaxify 3 роки тому +33

    Well, the legacy part of the storyline only last for a Real reborn part from what I understand it as to tie in them on the first FFXIV and ARR thus from heavenward and forward all gets the same thing right?
    I know you wear what ever gear you have on when replaying the cutscenes so I assume even legacy arrive only in starter gear thou as it would kind of break the game for them otherwise arrive in their old pregame gear.....but I'm kind of curious if the game lorewise says anything what happened to the character gear between FFXIV ending and arriving at their starting village since I assume its meant to be instant teleportation from the players point of view. :)

    • @MrBester23
      @MrBester23  3 роки тому +34

      The lore said you were sent to the future by Louiseux. When ARR startet you had the same gear that you wore at the end of 1.x
      The special CS ended at 2.0

  • @GholaAlygzand
    @GholaAlygzand 2 роки тому +6

    I have a legacy character, though I did not play all the way to the end - perhaps that is why I didn't get any of these awesome cutscene alternatives?

    • @TheMonk3613
      @TheMonk3613 Рік тому +3

      I read that you needed to be subscribed to 1.0 for like 90 days I think to qualify. I remember people didn't finish the MSQ, but got legacy cause they forgot to cancel their subscription.

  • @Mrlaged
    @Mrlaged Рік тому +1

    Till Sea Swallows all!

    • @mintpanda1
      @mintpanda1 11 місяців тому

      May you ever walk in the light of the crystal!

  • @Kaiyuni
    @Kaiyuni 2 роки тому +12

    Just curious, is the fact that you're a legacy character ever brought up again, or is it just during the ARR main story that it is?

    • @himeka6246
      @himeka6246 2 роки тому +18

      Only ARR. Which makes sense considering how linked with 1.0 it is. From HW on it's the same for everyone. I remember Cid suddenly calling me Old Friend in HW and was very confused as to why until I realized the difference in ARR cutscenes.

    • @SacredDaturaa
      @SacredDaturaa 2 роки тому +3

      @@himeka6246 Wait, so there ARE still differences in HW and beyond it sounds like?

    • @lolAvalanche
      @lolAvalanche Рік тому +5

      @@SacredDaturaa I believe what they're saying is that post-ARR the game almost assumes you are a legacy character and therefore Cid calls you Old Friend.

  • @Desman04
    @Desman04 2 роки тому +2

    If only 1.0 was also on PS3. It's fine, I'm not jealous (I say jealously).

    • @destroyerofnice
      @destroyerofnice 2 роки тому +1

      Too bad the original team chose a terrible system..

  • @the_cyberchill
    @the_cyberchill 11 місяців тому +1

    Can you replay these cutscenes after you've finished the quest with the unending journey? I'd love to find clips where someone made the canonical appearance for the trailer WoL using these suitable outfits and all.

    • @the_cyberchill
      @the_cyberchill 11 місяців тому

      This into only applies to 1.0 characters right? Not the account?

    • @MrBester23
      @MrBester23  11 місяців тому

      @@the_cyberchill yes. It‘ only for 1.0 Charakters

  • @gnomebardftw
    @gnomebardftw 2 роки тому +1

    Well, shit. My legacy character has long been gone, possibly deleted after ARR released since I changed servers. Little salty this isn't account wide.

  • @DKHZStudio
    @DKHZStudio Рік тому +1

    where does the last cutscene play ? with rauban and Kann-e Senna ?

    • @MrBester23
      @MrBester23  Рік тому +1

      It‘s after you defeat the Ultima Weapon and Lahabrea.

  • @Coolio_Ash
    @Coolio_Ash 7 місяців тому

    I forgot the voice actors were different

  • @inkarupay
    @inkarupay 2 роки тому

    i wish they would of have kept this CS

  • @dakotadoyle7573
    @dakotadoyle7573 2 роки тому +4

    So what's the lore reason behind some people remembering us and most others not? I'm guessing Minfilia remembers because of her Echo

    • @MrBester23
      @MrBester23  2 роки тому +15

      They didn‘t explain that at the time. They kind of explained it in Endwalker, but I think it was more a gane machanic to give old and new players the same story.

    • @groom_of_the_stools
      @groom_of_the_stools 5 місяців тому

      We didn't know then, but we now know it was the Kairos Memory Manipulator.

  • @UnusualDeathCause
    @UnusualDeathCause 2 роки тому +3

    I am truly confused as to why they have gone to trouble themselves with making 2 versions, this one is the "story accurate" one, isn't it. The opening cinematic makes no sense otherwise. Why not just give everyone this version?

    • @KitsuneMiyazaki
      @KitsuneMiyazaki 2 роки тому +7

      Imagine if you'd never heard of 1.0, and you were jumping into FFXIV completely blind because a friend recommended it or something. The Teleporting in and all the mentions of you being someone that people are supposed to know but they don't, and Cid's callback to Riven Road, would all be completely nonsensical. So, there are two different "canons." If you are a 1.0 player, it's canon that your character survived the Calamity and returned five years later. If you didn't start until after ARR, it's canon that your character is entirely unrelated to the previous Warriors of Light, and you're making a new legacy of your own. Neither version is "more" canon than the other, unless you want to get a stick up your ass about how the WoL in the Trailers is a Meteor Survivor (but the trailers contain so much other non-canon stuff, that argument doesn't make sense to begin with).

    • @MagicKnightR
      @MagicKnightR 2 роки тому +7

      @@KitsuneMiyazaki There is nothing that says a 2.0+ character isn't one of the WoL, it's just unlike legacy characters, the game doesn't make it obvious because, like you said, new players would be confused as to what their character did before they started up the game. If someone knows the story that led up to the calamity, they are 100% in the right to decide "my character went through this" if they so wanted to

    • @KitsuneMiyazaki
      @KitsuneMiyazaki 2 роки тому +2

      @@MagicKnightR True, but this is the saddest possible option because your friends never remember you, not even Minfillia or Cid. Your old life is just completely lost to the world.

    • @groom_of_the_stools
      @groom_of_the_stools 5 місяців тому +1

      @@MagicKnightR The Endwalker story explains what makes the Warrior of Light the Warrior of Light. If you were a 1.0 player, you got Azem's soul shard early. If you came aboard later, you got Azem's soul shard later.

  • @JT-Kazan
    @JT-Kazan 3 роки тому +6

    Will you put the other language ?
    I curious about the french one and the japanese

    • @MrBester23
      @MrBester23  3 роки тому +3

      That‘s not the plan. German and English are the languages I understand. But I‘ll think about it.

    • @MrBester23
      @MrBester23  3 роки тому +5

      I just recorded the Japanese version of the cutscenes. They will be online soon. I didn't have time for the French cutscenes yet, but I'll do it eventually.

  • @SacredDaturaa
    @SacredDaturaa 2 роки тому +1

    Looks like legacy players get a lvl 1 version of their job armor from the start?

    • @MrBester23
      @MrBester23  2 роки тому +3

      No, i recorded it as a rewatch.but bach then I had level 50 from the start because the was my level at the end of 1.x

    • @SacredDaturaa
      @SacredDaturaa 2 роки тому +2

      @@MrBester23 ohh that's also interesting. did all job progress get transferred too?

    • @MrBester23
      @MrBester23  2 роки тому +3

      @@SacredDaturaa yes.

    • @SacredDaturaa
      @SacredDaturaa 2 роки тому +2

      @@MrBester23 That's cool, thanks for answering.

    • @flamebro13
      @flamebro13 3 місяці тому

      ​@MrBester23 thats so cool so it must have been easy to go through the story at base lvl 50

  • @unloyal4847
    @unloyal4847 2 роки тому +3

    Always wondered but what happens if you race change to new races, does it keep your tattoo?

  • @danieljones3291
    @danieljones3291 2 роки тому

    I don't get it. I am a Legacy Character, but I didn't get any of these! Was it because I was also in the ARR Beta? My character is a 1.0 Beta character and I've got the tattoo, but I don't get these cutscenes...

    • @MrBester23
      @MrBester23  2 роки тому

      Did you finish the 1.x story until the end?

  • @RebekkaJones
    @RebekkaJones Рік тому

    *Hydaelyn *Carteneau *characters

  • @Tienzu1
    @Tienzu1 2 роки тому

    So is the echo new to arr and wasn't used in 1.0?

    • @MrBester23
      @MrBester23  2 роки тому +7

      You had the echo in 1.0.

  • @SimilakChild
    @SimilakChild 2 роки тому

    That's dumb. I played FFXIV since 1.0 and still have the same character and original DVD since back then, and my acct is standard not legacy because I didn't have a 90 day subscription?

    • @MrBester23
      @MrBester23  2 роки тому +1

      Yes. You had to pay for 90 days to get legacy status.

  • @Kobaneko2005
    @Kobaneko2005 3 роки тому +20

    Must be playing this on a PC designed to run FFXI...

    • @rinnnnnnnnnnrinRinOnishi
      @rinnnnnnnnnnrinRinOnishi 2 роки тому +3

      @Animal Eye im sure it will be when people arent forced to scour the internet just to be able to buy one