R1250RS owner here. I bought it as a daily commuter/touring have covered 3500 miles I didn't want a GS for the larger size, higher price and everyone has one. Kickstand is perfectly OK. I love the fact it's low to the ground after a SuperdukeR. Tank range for commuting is 190miles on a run an easy 200+. I put a taller screen on mine because of wind buffering it was deafening now it's silent. It's just beautiful to ride, all day in total comfort.
@@TimWigan Puig Touring plus I can ride at any speed visor up no wind buffering at all. The original for my height at least (5'9) was just way to noisy.
@ 195cm tall I have a higher screen. Sorry but the GS/GSA is not a nice bike in comparison. The RS will carry as much and as 99%of the time is Io buitumen there's zero need for GS and it'll cope with the odd dirt track. 😀 With a full complement of RS Exclusive extras and a couple of extra comfort parts it's as pricy as a GS/A and username Kate your pretty clueless on bike handling, and your road riding lines are not good 😉
@@Roger101Watson - Thanks for your comment. I’m 1.76m so about 1/4” taller than you and found the same with the stock screen. So I bought the MRA vario screen as that had worked well on my old 1200GS but that wasn’t tall enough either. So then I was torn between the Givi and the Puig screen which I’m guessing you have. I believe they’re both the same height but the Givi is slightly wider so I went for that. It has stopped the direct wind blast so I can ride at 75 mph with an open helmet but there is still buffeting and also for the pillion. As you are reporting neither, then perhaps the Puig has a different shape which then prevents buffeting? I also fitted some AliExpress bar risers, 2 cm higher and 2 cm back, which I found helped with overall comfort. Although I still miss the sit up and beg position of the GS. What are your experiences?
Stupid question, but what's it like in the rain? I was looking at a 1200rs(I have a gsa and I'm not keen on it) but was worried that a sports tourer wouldn't be that suited for all year riding. Then thought maybe just buy the 1200RS for summer touring and a cheaper 1000 V strom for the colder tours. Woukd love to get your feedback. Cheers
Had an RT, a GSA and now an RS. Also had Ducatis, a Honda fireblade, aprilia rsvr mille’s, a ktm, gpz kwacker, guzzi v50, and loads more bikes over 40 years riding. I’m genuinely surprised to be saying this but the R1200RS sport I now own is the best all rounder I’ve ever owned or ridden. Handles fabulously, is comfy and genuinely flickable although not sports bike-esque, it handles and is planted. Power on the 1200 is more than ample. Sidestand is fine, no problems at all with mine. Screens are rubbish like all bmw screens. Why do they not learn and improve them?. The best screen compromise on these is the MRA vario x screen. Wunderlich marathon is ok but MRA looks and performs better. I agree if buying one buy the bells snd whistles version or you’ll kick yourself. To those looking for one, don’t beat yourself up about a 1200 over a 1250. There’s so little difference in real world riding between them. Fit a remus end can and the 1200 is roughly similar through the mids. Great bikes, hugely under rated. Personally I find them more comfortable and more sporty than the GS as well as more refined thanks to different gearing and revised driveshaft damping. Buttery smooth. Ride one and you’ll never look at another bike. This does it all effortlessly. Fit a mudslinger and crud catcher as they’re a must.
I'm owner of a R1250RS for a few months now. It's a real good bike and I'm loving the rides with this fellow 100%! If a GS is not your thing because of the hight than the RS is a great alternatif. The color of my bike is Brown bronse 719 style.
@@claytonsorensen1596 hello Clayton, before buying the RS I have tested a lot of other simular bikes. For me the RS was the best bike over all. Especially the torque capacity and maneuverability and running line of the bike is fantastic. In the meantime I made some adjustments. Such as a higher windshield, risers, lowered foot pedals placed in front of the passenger, this from the brand Wunderlich. In addition, an extra mudguard on the rear wheel.
73 years old had my exclusive 8 months average speed 65 fuel consumption 63 to the gallon last 4 bikes were blackbirds trashed front tyre in 4000 miles had 30 Plus bikes this bike is head and shoulders above all other bikes the narrow seat helps us shorties tony Haynes
Hi Kate, purchased a slightly used 1200rs last year on the west coast and rode it cross country back to New Jersey. Added a larger windshield and risers for comfort. My RT is more comfortable on the interstate but very disappointing in the twisties as the weight and size is a handful. My old K1200RS has a wonderful engine but very top heavy and tried to high side me into oblivion last year. Something I said to her no doubt. Rented a GS a few times to tour out west. Huge bike that probably sells due to image. Picked an 800gs on a tour of the Alps. Nasty oversized front wheel won't turn, very disappointing. Tried the XR and the blasted thing almost cooked my legs, poor gas millage and the engine felt like it was filled with marbles, very vibey. My old K1200RS engine puts that engine to shame.Very happy with the 1200RS, personally I feel it's the most overlooked BMW in their line-up. And happy to host you and a few friends if you want to tour across the pond!
I've been riding a 1250RS for a few months now. Absolutely love it!!! That flat twin engine / low centre of gravity makes it both stable and easy to manoeuvre so it inspires confidence at all speeds.
@@billsnell1481 well I haven't ridden a Z1000XS so I can't compare but I find the RS feels particularly good at low speeds / first gear stuff. I am sure it is due to the engine layout giving it a low centre of gravity. It doesn't feel like a heavy bike at all. I have just one criticism of the whole bike - I think the side stand is slightly too long so it feels as though it would be easy to tip over when left on the side stand. Having said that I haven't actually tipped it over so maybe I'm worrying about nothing!!
I’ve had my RS for 20 months now & put 12,000 miles on her, great mile munching machine.. It is low & cramped though for even an averaged height rider like myself, that’s why I have now fitted the sports high seat (finally) makes such a difference - long rides/tours are now much easier on the knees! It does sit up very straight on the side stand your right, but there is a way round that also if you have the electronic suspension fitted, (like on your test bike) I keep mine in the ‘rider with luggage’ setting suspension mode, which raises the bike up a little more, so you then get more of a lean on the stand, if you then pop it in dynamic it will rise up even more on top of that, for yet more lean on those off camber roads that you may need to park on. As for fuel economy I got 57mpg av (or 225 miles per 18L tank full) on a 2,500 mile Tour I did last year. Even if I go out for some very enthusiastic scratching the worst it averages is 47mpg. This bike hustles so well in the twisty’s, I don’t have any chicken strips at all on my rear tyre!.. I’m putting off the GS as a potential next option for the simple reason every man & his dog has one, you don’t see that many RS’s about really, I like the more exclusive feel of riding a bike you don’t come across often out on the road... Sounds absolutely fabulous (and looks way better) with an aftermarket LeoVince silencer too 👍🏻
Hi Kate, good informative video, thank you. I’ve owned four 1200 GS’S two with lowered suspensions. I have to agree that they are more than flickable, I enjoyed them all. The last one I traded in with yourselves for a R1200RS ICONIC. I know it’s not the 1250 but everyone is aware that the engine is an improvement over the 1200. That being said , other than the new TF dash , I have most of the modes and upgrades as the one you rode. I have been round the coast of Ireland on it twice, to my sisters in Seron Spain (via the euro tunnel and France) twice and a tour round France as well. One of the trips to Spain was a return journey of 3260 miles. Outward we had two overnight stops and rode the trip in three days, relaxed for four days and the return was over two and a half days. Bit long winded I know but this is an example of the bikes real capabilities, it eats the miles quickly and it has the best and most comfortable seat of any bike I’ve ever owned! My GS on a trip to France left me with a numb backside and groin cramps but I never could get truly comfortable on any of them. Chassis wise I have had no problems, engine I had a slight water leak from the pump, and some of the paint started to crack , dealt with by Williams with no questions and to my satisfaction. I don’t know if the 1250 is the same but my engine took a lot of miles to be free it’s now running beautifully, it’s always been good but now it just wants to go. I’m 5’ 7” and have short legs 29” I fitted Wunderlich bar risers and that made the fit perfect for me and I get the balls of both feet on the ground at a stop. It is heavy and with the boxer motor it’s always going to be but it’s only ever a problem turning it round in my garage , that’s a small price to pay for what I consider to be the best sports tourer I have owned and ridden.
Hi Stephen, useful post. I've always liked adventure style but don't go offroad. Had a CB500X, now have F750GS, but I'm drawn to this for my next bike rater than a GS. Seat comfort and wind noise reduction very important to me. I have tinnitus so want to protect my hearing as much as possible but I believe there are good after-market screens for this bike (I have a Givi airlfow with an extender on my F750GS). Test-riding later this week. Feel I have to ride the Kawa Z1000SX too, £5K price difference makes it worth a test ride. Cheers
Apologies if you already know... Top tip set a destination in the BMW Connected App and set the route type to winding avoiding Motorways etc... It’s like going from A to B via Z brilliant for random ride outs.
Hi Kate, good review. The RS has a place in my heart ever since I borrowed a demo bike when my RT went in for some warranty work. Being shorty I found the ergonomics suited me better than the RT. Though there's not a lot of difference from the RT with it's seat on the low setting, the width of the seat on the RT robs you of a little leg length. Regarding residuals though, I found the "bells & whistles" do not provide added value when you com to sell. The extras on my RT were dismissed almost with a wave of the hand and made little difference when I traded it in. My advice therefore would be to spec the bike how you want it and enjoy the extras - just don't expect to get your money back.
I bought a used 2020 R1250RS in November of 2020. Yes, used and it only had 360 miles on it. I"ve put over 4000 on it over the last year and it's great. I love it.
Great review. Thanks Kate. I have had my 1250 GS Exclusive for 12 months and I absolutely love it. I can identify with what you said about responsiveness.
I totally agree with your opinion between the RS and GS. I only ride on road. I love the riding position and flick-ability of my R1250GS and plan on putting on sticker road only tires when the stock ones wear out.
Kate, I have both an RT and an RS. After being off a bike for nearly 20 years, I bought an RT, something I had been dreaming about for decades, then quickly finding I was over my head. I bought an RS to get some seat time that has helped me get used to the RT. I use my RS around town, and the RT for touring. Something I never would have done without the confidence I got on the RS. It just does everything a person could want. Nothing stupid.
Also returning rider (at 70) after totalling an Rt on A deer at 100KPH. The Rs for Me represents what i wanted to ficx on the Rt...1: Get rid fo the bulk ...lose some weight...lose the car mirrors. keep ability to carry pillion and luggage. and lose some fot eh magnificient windprotection but still get sufficent wind coverage to be comfy on long distance higway travel.
Hey Kate! I totally agree with you after having my 1st GS1250 in November I was going to get the GSA, but chose the GS because more practicality and not wanting to carry that additional weight The low and behold after writing my GS right now it's got 3200 miles on it, that bike is the most nimble and fun Motorcycle that I've ever owned, and I've been writing since 72 It can be the sportiest when I go around the twisties of the local mountains in Southern California, or like 3 weeks ago when I took a 5 day ride through Arizona and some of the back roads and I moto camped, it's the most versatile motorcycle ever! Thank you for your rambling, haha, but it was all good! Keep safe and keep the videos coming and I know this was an old one but I just found your channel this morning
Thanks for your review. Just got my R1250RS earlier this week and your review was one of the things that went into my decision process. It’s an absolutely brilliant bike. So far when filtering in heavy traffic I just think like a cop - calm progress. I don’t mind scooters whizzing past me - I’m not trying to keep up with anyone. The boxer engine is awesome: very civilised at low speed, can push on in any gear and really accelerate when you want it to. The standard seat height is completely fine for me (and I’m tall) - I’m a returning biker and as soon as I sat on it, it felt like home. The side stand *is* sometimes a bit vertical - so I do find myself parking it on the centre stand if I’m parking at an angle where the camber of the road isn’t helping me.
Thanks for the review Kate , I quiet enjoyed it. I live in the heart of Naples Italy where the roads are full of holes and bumps very narrow up and down alleys and a lot of filtering. I was strictly a sport bike rider until moving here from Florida but found riding a ZX10r in this city torture. I bought an F800GS thinking it might be ideal for these roads but I had 2 main issues with the 800 first the height of the bike even with the low seat put me in situations where getting my feet on the ground at 5’8”was iffy . The second issue was smile factor , it just wasn’t there. In 2016 I test road a R1200 and was very favorably impressed. Finally after seeing many reviews like yours for the last two years I purchased the R1250 RS for 2021. Although I have only just turned 1000 kilometers and most of my riding has been in the city I’m loving the bike more and more on each ride. The power is so much more usable than anything I’ve ever ridden and she makes me smile. Even though the boxer seems wider than my 800 , the RS is actually much easier to filter. The number one large displacement bike sold in Italy is the big GS and for taller riders It may be the better choice but for shorter riders like me the RS is the ticket. Thanks again for your entertaining review and keep the shiny side up. Rickey Mooty
I'm the same height as you, had a GS for 10 years (110,000Km) Height and top heavyness never disapeared.....) Currently riding an 03 R 1150R and the comfort of easy ground access adds infinately to the ride. The rs would address the only lack on the R. LAck of wind protection.
Nice bike. I used to own the 1200 RS (before it was stolen) and really liked it except for two things which I changed. It needed risers as the positioning gave me wrist ache on long journeys and the placement of the satnav.
I'm in the market for something BMW with the boxer, on road only and your comparison between the RS and GS is super helpful. Thanks heaps for your review, your a star and keep up the good work.
Hi Kate. I have an RS & added helibar riaers to it & it changed the handling. The steering has gone so much lighter & responsive. My fav bike to ride whenever I have a demo is a 1250 gsa & I love the way the bike is so flickable with its comfy bar position & I'm so pleased I've nearly got that now with my risers as they lift & sit you up a bit more. Only took 15 mins to fit so will be quick to change back for my next trackday. Great review Kate.
The reason the GS is so much more flickable / less stable than the RS is because it has a higher center of gravity than the RS. Higher the COG the less needed to lean it. Lower the COG the more needed. The lower COG is more stable & more forgiving, but it's less flickable.
Hi, I recently found your channel and I'm enjoying your reviews - thanks. I'm looking to replace my elderly F800GT and after something more engaging. I previously owned a Sprint ST1050 and I can see the R12500RS as a good, up to date, option. I'm only a tad taller than you so appreciate your insight from that perspective. I've also considered the F900 XR but I see a huge jump in general value/quality comparing BMWs larger bikes to the mid range options. The R1250RS is just so much better value/equipped than an F900XR. The low seat option looks ideal.
Just drove mine home from the dealership yesterday. I'm going to get a dozen tickets on this thing or worse. Filtering as you guys put is effortless compared to my wethead RT. I bought this because after 5yrs on the RT I only took one really long trip or commuted. Never really rode it just for fun but I'm thinking I will on the RS.
Hi Kate, as an older rider I have ridden a few BMW RS, R100 RS, and K100 RS, Flying Brick, and of course the R1200 GS and R1250 GS Exclusive which I ride now and it is one hell of a machine, of course I test rode the RS1250,nice bike but not for me , the R1250 GS is such a good all rounder and very comfortable, RS 1250 too cramped for me, still a good bike, good review , ride safe and stay safe.
Thanks a bunch for the video. I was keen on buying a R 1250 RS, so watching your video helped a lot in my purchase decision. It was delivered to me last week. So far I'm loving it. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
I purchased a 2016 1200 RS a few months ago and I love it. I have owned the 2016 1200 R which I loved but I walked into the BMW dealership to ask a few questions and I traded my R for the RS. Huge difference in all aspects. Cheers from San Antonio, Texas
Again, another great video Kate. You asked for feedback from the owner's of RS. I have the 2020 R1250RS Option719 with Remus, panniers, helibars, and GPS. I have owned 12 other bikes in 7 years, ranging from Honda cruisers (4), Triumph Thunderbirds (2), ST1300, Trophy SE, R1200RT LC, K1600GT, Yamaha Raider S (still have) and now the RS. The RS is the most enjoyable bike of all. I do not do off-road, stay on pavement, not in to extended long range touring and camping. I don"t have a problem with trailering the bike to a destination and riding the twisties, "Tail of the Dragon", The Guantlet when time is critical. This RS will do it all better than any of the others. The RT was too hot, the K1600GT was heavy, the cruisers were uncomfortable after 150 miles, etc. I can ride the RS all day, in the heat of Georgia, take a little gear, and maintain a presence with most spirited riders. I am comfortable and happy. BTW, the Triumph Trophy SE was the second best bike I have ever owned but became nervous Triumph was discontinuing the bike and values would fall, was time for it to go.
That's so interesting to read you saying the RT was too hot, because I agree. I had a 2012 RT, and when summer hit even here in Canada I had to invest in some premium mesh gear, but once the temperature went above 86 degrees I was already sweltering! Superb weather protection but too protective lol. Looking forward to my '22 RS !
Another great video Kate. Thx. Suggestion: Consider starting your videos with you and the bike, stiil camera (non fish eye) with B-Roll closeups, intro the bike and basic specs, then video ride and your great review insights and comments, finish as you started standing w the bike with final thoughts. Viewers likely want to see more of you and of the bike, versus the mostly the road. Just my 2 cents. Keep up the great work! Oh, if you have access to a 2021+ R1250RT, love to hear your take. 😉👍
I have had a R1250 RS exclusive with all the toys since September. It is so much fun to ride, thanks to the shift cam engine. It is best in the high speed twisties and as well as I motorway hike. You are so right about the side stand being to vertical so have to think when you park.
Love the channel Kate and would love you to look at the R9T 21 model not so much the Pure! the twin clocks look fab and the 719 option made me feel very excited and can’t wait to go see one, if I can traid in or sell my HD Fatboy 04 plate I will be up for a test ride and purchase one in your store 👍 Ride safe and keep your channel going as me and my friends in Bristol love it 😊
Good review Kate. I have a 2016GS & 2020 1250RS (also 2007 1200R), all different in their abilities & all good, very good. I agree that the RS's kick stand is a little tall. The GS is more flickable & nimble than the RS. The old 1200R is also a lot of fun to get around on too. Unfortunately I will have to part with my GS as bursitis in my hip (I am approaching 70) makes it a wee bit painful throwing my leg over. Kate, I love your transparency & honesty in the reviews, keep up the good work. From the Land Down Under.
As I'm in the process of purchasing the R1250 RS, and this video came to mind. Upon revisiting it, I was delighted by the clarity with which you explained why one might choose the R1250RS over the GS. Kate, to the best of my knowledge, you were the first person I've encountered who articulated the differences between these bikes in such a straightforward manner, great job👍. I wholeheartedly agree with your insights🤩, particularly regarding the significance of factors like rake and wheelbase, which truly distinguish the riding experiences offered by these two models. Your ability to convey this information is commendable, and I want to express my appreciation for your hard work. Keep up the excellent work, and please continue to provide the valuable insights that enthusiasts like myself crave. Thank you for your dedication and for sharing your expertise💥
@@UsernameKate So falling in love with this bike on a test ride meant I did say goodbye to my F800GT and have had my R1250 RS Sport for just a week and boy is it beautiful to ride. I have watched your excellent video again and noted your comments about the side stand....I'm so glad you have mentioned it (I thought it was just me finding it odd). It is very 'upright' and that means I have to watch carefully where I park else the bike feels like it will tip over. I am the same height as you
GS has the special front fork. If you ride alone but use the 2 helmet setting the rear lifts a lot and the steering angle gets so it really likes to turn. Side winds really don't bother the GS, maybe because of the special fork. I like that I got the GS with stronger, spoked wheels. Came from an '85 K100RS w 203,000 miles, owned since 37,000 miles and like the small GS fairings but still getting used to the wide bars.
Great review, bought the Austin yellow sport and I love it. Great machine. Can't find a single thing to complain about except the lack of time to ride more. Love the accent.
@@billsnell1481 the weight is quite low so for me I find the balance really good and slow speeds are fine, I wouldn't necessarily rush to do a bike gymkhana on it, but this is the first bike in quite some time that I feel I could ride a u turn. I wanted a bike to tour on so I went with the faired option, otherwise I would have gone for the naked as it does just have the edge on finer handling, but that's entirely personal and that's like me saying I'd rather have a stripped out sports car vs one with all the comforts. So yes it's a heavy bike, but it doesn't feel it one bit.
Hi Kate. I have a 2016 R1200RS that has all of the options. I haven't ridden the new 12550RS but I've ridden the new 1250GS. My impression of the new boxer motor is that it like the 1200 boxer, only better! Have you noticed that the sound the new motor makes is subtly different? I don't know how to describe the difference, other than it is different! In general, I love my RS. If I had to sum it up, it is a great daily ride! I've done several 500+ mile days on it and it's only on those days that the RS starts to feel a little small and that I had the GS. Where I live, we almost always get afternoon and evening winds. 70 MPH into a 20 MPH wind and I get the snot beat out of me. (I'm 6' tall with a 32" inseam). I put a Puig screen on it and it helps, however, there's always a tradeoff. Put that big screen up front with a lot of plastici hanging there in the wind and now you're dealing with vibrations induced from the wind screen. The factory wind screen does a great job at this speeds IF there isn't the additional atmospheric wind. On shorter trips, it's no big deal. You sit down behind the dash and windscreen a bit more on the GS and I think the wind protection it offers is better. The RS is super flickable like you say. It doesn't have the top end of a SuperSport bike, but man, that 0-100 MPH acceleration is intoxicating. If I had a gripe about the '16 it would be that it has the older clunky gearbox and the quick-shifter is just ok. The new ones work like magic! The other small niggle is the old orange LCD display is not the greatest. It's really hard to get the things you want to look at on one screen and the analog speedo is almost impossible to read at a glance because the numbers are so small.The Nav VI mount on the handlebars isn't great either. The GS location below the windscreen is much better. WRT to the stand being too tall, I would probably have disagreed before a month ago when a strong wind blew the bike off of the side stand so yea, a little shorter stand would've been nice! I want to do long distance trips and I think the bigger luggage available on a GS, bigger size and better wind protection is going to make that the next bike in my stable.
Thank you for your comments! I love reading these as it gives readers a real impression of what it is like for an owner, who have far more experience with the bike and a tually live with it. Thanks again!
You are awesome! So glad you posted this! This helps so much especially knowing we are the same height. I have a very(very!) LOVED 2005 R1200ST which I demoed at a rally and bought one shortly after returning home. I have a hard time finding a newer bike that suits my riding preferences. So excited! I will also say I can never say never as I also tried the Street Triple, that might have to find a place in the garage as well....
Nice honest review, i had a sit on that bike yesterday(my GS was having a check up) a quick clip to advise suspension set upon BMWs,F 900XR thoughts and a must for the next video the navigator VI :)
Test rode one last week. Smooth, comfortable but dare I say a bit boring? I took off from BMW on my Ducati thinking ahh that's better. I love most bikes but not quite ready to be that pampered I need something that bites back, excites me. Great ride review!
Like you I am totally impressed with the boxer engine and until you’ve ridden one you won’t believe how smooth the power delivery is. I ride a 2018 R1200 gsa and even pulling all that weight it is impressive. From the U S stay safe!!
Hey, just caught your first live stream recording. Good stuff. Seems we both walked away with the same souvenir. Have a plate on my right clavicle and made the same choice not to have it removed just yet. One side says to me it actually adds structural integrity while the other says yes but what if you have another fall? All's good for now though. Maybe once Covid has passed. Basically to have been blessed in the walking away part and capable to continue with such a passion is amazing. 10 broken ribs, punctured lung and yep....left wrist worked on ....just keep flowing the Adventure with Challenges all wrapped up in a beautiful Mystery to me and I'm good with it All. Glad to hear you mention Teapotone I follow him as well. Be Well Stay Safe
Very informative review. I have a 2016 R1200GSA and a 2016 S1000XR. You have me wanting to take a 1250 for a ride now. Also, I gotta say you have a wonderful voice/accent! You got a new sub.
Hi. Kate. Great vids..and very nice to see an opinion that doesn’t go like this. “ if you don’t ride off road, then you don’t need a GS. You need an RS.” Blah, blah blah! I ride my GS cos I believe it’s the best road bike for me! Keep up the jolly good work and ride as you see fit.
Hi Kate. Excellent video and information. I enjoyed the ride too. I have a 1200 GSA, really like it, does all and more than I need. That RS looks and sounds great though. Love that British scenery on your motorcycle ride, would enjoy riding through that.
Yes, I own an RS. Had the 1200 RS, but I decked it. Shame. But the 1250 is a real improvement in power, not that I ever found the 1200 wanting. It is a really handsome bike. It needs better horns, and the mod to do that is, err, difficult. The stand angle seems to vary between units. Mine is fine.
I'm 1m 71 and therefore have always been reluctant to the BMW's flagship, due to its height mainly. Then I discovered your channel and since, you became a source of inspiration for me Thank you for that :-)
I've ridden the R1250R (very similar model) and it has a surprisingly low seat height - I'm 1m70 and my feet were flat on the floor plus my knees were bent too. Get to a BMW showroom and sit on a few models 👍
I'm not a fan of the color, but I would have loved to have been able to ride it on the trip I just got back from. I rode 1200 MILES in 20 hours to visit one of my sons. I spent a week riding bikes with him, and, on my birthday, traveled the 1200 miles back. So, now I will have 2 more SS1000 patches on my riding vest. If I had been able to ride a bike like that, my feet and lower legs wouldn't have swollen and my throttle hand would not be still a bit numb after being home for two days now. Haha. Y'all be safe.
I rode the R1200R for a while and loved it to bits, very nimble comfortable and fast when you like. I've been toying with the idea of switching to the RS but could never figure out in what way they ride that much differently. Surprisingly not many f2f comparison between the two so curious to know your views besides one not having fairings and being more upright than the other. Thanks for the review, great fun as usual ;-)
Yup side sand on r1250r is also makes the bike stand up straight’ish so you have to be careful. Another great video, keep them coming. Is there any news on the forth coming S1000r
I think we all would of had adventure bikes a long time ago but we all thought a sports bike like a fireblade or a zx6-r was what we needed. If someone had tried a Honda verado or a kle500 or a tdm850 they would have been hooked. Roads are no place for a sports bike anyway. Soon as it does what it's designed for it's breaking the law
You are a gorgeous Liverpoolian also, I lived near London in Finchely with my parents back in the mid 60's, I'd love to move back, I like it there far better than America, I prefer the climate, great video, I ride a 09 r1200rt, absolutely lovely bike, no trouble what so ever but do wish I could afford a newer bike, a 2010 or on further, having to repair fuel pump and controller then I'll be back out, enjoy all your rides gal, have fun and stay safe.
Thank you Peter!!! I just give my impression and tell people if they are considering... ride it yourself as me with my own perspectives and stature may have a completely different experience from the next person 😊
Good vid, I was just about to book a test ride the day before lockdown at my local dealer on a R1250R, I'm looking forward to your look at that one, Great work keep them coming
Thanks for the review, nice job. I’m a recent subscriber so just picked this up. Can you do an in depth walk round please? I have a F800GT and I’m thinking of this as an option. Looking to do some ride outs with a bike club and also some touring. I’d appreciate your thoughts please.
Great video. I'm new to your channel and I'm considering both the GS and the RS. I have an inseam similar to yours and was thinking the GS might be a little tall for me. I look forward to watching more of your videos.
Hi Kate,loved this no nonsense review. Had three VFR 800's on the bounce,great bike and faultless apart from being just a little bit lacking in the go department when touring with a bit of weight onboard. Tried Pidcock's demo 1250 RS and wow what an engine,and a great overall package. A new RS Exclusive arrives next month with my name on it,can't wait! (As a shorty I've asked for the 760mm low seat,a no cost option as you know but others may not,made all the difference for me on the test ride).
Enjoyed the review. Good value statements and application insight. Nice selection. Just had me and my ride (R1250R HP 2020) taken out while traversing through a roundabout on Vancouver Island by a BIG Blue VW Van. Have already ordered my replacement Journey partner ...the 2021 BMW R1250GS Black Storm (Triple Black) fully loaded. Should be an Amazing year ahead. Cheers, PG
Fun review thanks Kate. Really fancy the boxer engine for next bike (currently on F750GS). I don't go off-road but suspect the GS will be better option for comfort and wind/weather protection. Riding in Scotland it's always pissing rain and windy so this is a major consideration. Cheers.
Well what a review !! you're up there with the likes of Teapotone,Richy Vida,Missenderflyer,Lambchops.Not not bad for a 5ft 4 inchs Lady.Thanks for sticking up for the GS - it's the Suv of Bikes. Ride & Stay Safe.Cheers !!!!
Hi Kate,just yesterday i bought a new R1250RS! I'm waiting for delivery and the test drive was perfect and since I live in Munich I think BMW is a great choice! And yes I always wanted a BMW and I fell in love yesterday! so now I look at the other opinions, pros and cons of the R1250RS
Hey Branimir! Great choice! I really enjoyed the 1250RS! Lots of positives! Only negative I found with it is you need to be careful where you park as the side stand is pretty vertical and tall, so there is not much lean when it's on the side stand. This needs extra attention when parking on hills. And make sure you leave it on first gear when stopped to give yourself a fighting chance 😊
Hi Kate, yes I own a 2020 R1250RS I moved down from the K1300GT (2010) I love the bike I did also Own a GS but wanted something I could ride and not feel I'm on tour all the time I have a fully loaded model but have found 3 pain points 1) it's advertised as the Sport tourer but it is one of the few that does not come with the "Sport" Dash. 2) Dynamic Pro makes no sense as you can only mix and match Dynamic Road or rain settings since there is no difference in the Dynamic and Dynamic Pro modes in power just traction can be made more intrusive. 3) the position of the GPS is not well-conceived as you can't see it while riding. The RS also has a different final drive gear ratio which makes it more agile in the twisties than the GS. The only issue I have found so far in the 6k km I have ridden since May this year is the small grommet was missing on the side cover (Battery) causing vibrations and the Dashboard SW being very niggly connecting with Helmet and or mobile but I understand there is a new version that takes 3-4 hours to upload when I go for the next service. I have the factory panniers so it looks like a RT on a diet ;) One reason I bought this rather than the GS is the value for money I could not justify the extra costs for a GS with the same equipment level.
Kate, you are right about the kickstand. I have the R1200R Lc. Can't park if the left side of the ground is a little higher. I'm 5'5" and 28" inseam. The seat is 820mm high so I have to be careful. I'm in California where drive on the right side of the road so pulling over to the right can be a problem. You're 5'4"? I think so, I admire your skills. The KTMs are similar. The advantage is that it make it easier to bring the bike vertical.
R1250RS owner here. I bought it as a daily commuter/touring have covered 3500 miles I didn't want a GS for the larger size, higher price and everyone has one. Kickstand is perfectly OK. I love the fact it's low to the ground after a SuperdukeR. Tank range for commuting is 190miles on a run an easy 200+. I put a taller screen on mine because of wind buffering it was deafening now it's silent. It's just beautiful to ride, all day in total comfort.
What screen did you put on?
@@TimWigan Puig Touring plus I can ride at any speed visor up no wind buffering at all. The original for my height at least (5'9) was just way to noisy.
@ 195cm tall I have a higher screen. Sorry but the GS/GSA is not a nice bike in comparison. The RS will carry as much and as 99%of the time is Io buitumen there's zero need for GS and it'll cope with the odd dirt track. 😀
With a full complement of RS Exclusive extras and a couple of extra comfort parts it's as pricy as a GS/A and username Kate your pretty clueless on bike handling, and your road riding lines are not good 😉
@@Roger101Watson - Thanks for your comment. I’m 1.76m so about 1/4” taller than you and found the same with the stock screen. So I bought the MRA vario screen as that had worked well on my old 1200GS but that wasn’t tall enough either. So then I was torn between the Givi and the Puig screen which I’m guessing you have. I believe they’re both the same height but the Givi is slightly wider so I went for that. It has stopped the direct wind blast so I can ride at 75 mph with an open helmet but there is still buffeting and also for the pillion. As you are reporting neither, then perhaps the Puig has a different shape which then prevents buffeting?
I also fitted some AliExpress bar risers, 2 cm higher and 2 cm back, which I found helped with overall comfort. Although I still miss the sit up and beg position of the GS. What are your experiences?
Stupid question, but what's it like in the rain? I was looking at a 1200rs(I have a gsa and I'm not keen on it) but was worried that a sports tourer wouldn't be that suited for all year riding. Then thought maybe just buy the 1200RS for summer touring and a cheaper 1000 V strom for the colder tours. Woukd love to get your feedback.
Cheers
Had an RT, a GSA and now an RS. Also had Ducatis, a Honda fireblade, aprilia rsvr mille’s, a ktm, gpz kwacker, guzzi v50, and loads more bikes over 40 years riding. I’m genuinely surprised to be saying this but the R1200RS sport I now own is the best all rounder I’ve ever owned or ridden. Handles fabulously, is comfy and genuinely flickable although not sports bike-esque, it handles and is planted. Power on the 1200 is more than ample. Sidestand is fine, no problems at all with mine.
Screens are rubbish like all bmw screens. Why do they not learn and improve them?. The best screen compromise on these is the MRA vario x screen. Wunderlich marathon is ok but MRA looks and performs better.
I agree if buying one buy the bells snd whistles version or you’ll kick yourself. To those looking for one, don’t beat yourself up about a 1200 over a 1250. There’s so little difference in real world riding between them. Fit a remus end can and the 1200 is roughly similar through the mids.
Great bikes, hugely under rated. Personally I find them more comfortable and more sporty than the GS as well as more refined thanks to different gearing and revised driveshaft damping. Buttery smooth. Ride one and you’ll never look at another bike. This does it all effortlessly. Fit a mudslinger and crud catcher as they’re a must.
I'm owner of a R1250RS for a few months now. It's a real good bike and I'm loving the rides with this fellow 100%! If a GS is not your thing because of the hight than the RS is a great alternatif. The color of my bike is Brown bronse 719 style.
How you like that bike? I’m thinking of getting that exact one..bronze 719…
@@claytonsorensen1596 hello Clayton, before buying the RS I have tested a lot of other simular bikes. For me the RS was the best bike over all. Especially the torque capacity and maneuverability and running line of the bike is fantastic. In the meantime I made some adjustments. Such as a higher windshield, risers, lowered foot pedals placed in front of the passenger, this from the brand Wunderlich. In addition, an extra mudguard on the rear wheel.
73 years old had my exclusive 8 months average speed 65 fuel consumption 63 to the gallon last 4 bikes were blackbirds trashed front tyre in 4000 miles had 30 Plus bikes this bike is head and shoulders above all other bikes the narrow seat helps us shorties tony Haynes
Hi Kate, purchased a slightly used 1200rs last year on the west coast and rode it cross country back to New Jersey. Added a larger windshield and risers for comfort. My RT is more comfortable on the interstate but very disappointing in the twisties as the weight and size is a handful. My old K1200RS has a wonderful engine but very top heavy and tried to high side me into oblivion last year. Something I said to her no doubt. Rented a GS a few times to tour out west. Huge bike that probably sells due to image. Picked an 800gs on a tour of the Alps. Nasty oversized front wheel won't turn, very disappointing. Tried the XR and the blasted thing almost cooked my legs, poor gas millage and the engine felt like it was filled with marbles, very vibey. My old K1200RS engine puts that engine to shame.Very happy with the 1200RS, personally I feel it's the most overlooked BMW in their line-up. And happy to host you and a few friends if you want to tour across the pond!
Nice to see honest comments on the various models.....
I've been riding a 1250RS for a few months now. Absolutely love it!!! That flat twin engine / low centre of gravity makes it both stable and easy to manoeuvre so it inspires confidence at all speeds.
Hi Chris - one of my concerns having had a z1000xs is low speed stability. The rs is 240kg so is this ok around the car park?
@@billsnell1481 well I haven't ridden a Z1000XS so I can't compare but I find the RS feels particularly good at low speeds / first gear stuff. I am sure it is due to the engine layout giving it a low centre of gravity. It doesn't feel like a heavy bike at all. I have just one criticism of the whole bike - I think the side stand is slightly too long so it feels as though it would be easy to tip over when left on the side stand. Having said that I haven't actually tipped it over so maybe I'm worrying about nothing!!
Thanks Chris. I’ll definitely be going for a test ride.
Its fantastic to see and hear a lady talk about a bike for 35 mins and not run out of things to talk about. You got some serious skills Kate.🙂
I’ve had my RS for 20 months now & put 12,000 miles on her, great mile munching machine.. It is low & cramped though for even an averaged height rider like myself, that’s why I have now fitted the sports high seat (finally) makes such a difference - long rides/tours are now much easier on the knees! It does sit up very straight on the side stand your right, but there is a way round that also if you have the electronic suspension fitted, (like on your test bike) I keep mine in the ‘rider with luggage’ setting suspension mode, which raises the bike up a little more, so you then get more of a lean on the stand, if you then pop it in dynamic it will rise up even more on top of that, for yet more lean on those off camber roads that you may need to park on. As for fuel economy I got 57mpg av (or 225 miles per 18L tank full) on a 2,500 mile Tour I did last year. Even if I go out for some very enthusiastic scratching the worst it averages is 47mpg. This bike hustles so well in the twisty’s, I don’t have any chicken strips at all on my rear tyre!.. I’m putting off the GS as a potential next option for the simple reason every man & his dog has one, you don’t see that many RS’s about really, I like the more exclusive feel of riding a bike you don’t come across often out on the road... Sounds absolutely fabulous (and looks way better) with an aftermarket LeoVince silencer too 👍🏻
Hi Kate, good informative video, thank you. I’ve owned four 1200 GS’S two with lowered suspensions. I have to agree that they are more than flickable, I enjoyed them all. The last one I traded in with yourselves for a R1200RS ICONIC. I know it’s not the 1250 but everyone is aware that the engine is an improvement over the 1200. That being said , other than the new TF dash , I have most of the modes and upgrades as the one you rode. I have been round the coast of Ireland on it twice, to my sisters in Seron Spain (via the euro tunnel and France) twice and a tour round France as well. One of the trips to Spain was a return journey of 3260 miles. Outward we had two overnight stops and rode the trip in three days, relaxed for four days and the return was over two and a half days. Bit long winded I know but this is an example of the bikes real capabilities, it eats the miles quickly and it has the best and most comfortable seat of any bike I’ve ever owned! My GS on a trip to France left me with a numb backside and groin cramps but I never could get truly comfortable on any of them. Chassis wise I have had no problems, engine I had a slight water leak from the pump, and some of the paint started to crack , dealt with by Williams with no questions and to my satisfaction. I don’t know if the 1250 is the same but my engine took a lot of miles to be free it’s now running beautifully, it’s always been good but now it just wants to go. I’m 5’ 7” and have short legs 29” I fitted Wunderlich bar risers and that made the fit perfect for me and I get the balls of both feet on the ground at a stop. It is heavy and with the boxer motor it’s always going to be but it’s only ever a problem turning it round in my garage , that’s a small price to pay for what I consider to be the best sports tourer I have owned and ridden.
Hi Stephen, useful post. I've always liked adventure style but don't go offroad. Had a CB500X, now have F750GS, but I'm drawn to this for my next bike rater than a GS. Seat comfort and wind noise reduction very important to me. I have tinnitus so want to protect my hearing as much as possible but I believe there are good after-market screens for this bike (I have a Givi airlfow with an extender on my F750GS). Test-riding later this week. Feel I have to ride the Kawa Z1000SX too, £5K price difference makes it worth a test ride. Cheers
Gary Sutherland the Kawa is a lot of bike for the money and has a bulletproof engine, good luck whatever you choose
I would have these over the GS anyday i prefer the looks more my style
Great review Kate. That accent just keeps me coming back. It’s a pleasure to listen too👍
I think I sound sleepy in this haha, thats because I was! 😫 glad someone likes my common as muck accent haha!
It’s delightful!
Yeah, nice sexy British accent and she rides well
Apologies if you already know... Top tip set a destination in the BMW Connected App and set the route type to winding avoiding Motorways etc... It’s like going from A to B via Z brilliant for random ride outs.
Hi Kate, good review. The RS has a place in my heart ever since I borrowed a demo bike when my RT went in for some warranty work. Being shorty I found the ergonomics suited me better than the RT. Though there's not a lot of difference from the RT with it's seat on the low setting, the width of the seat on the RT robs you of a little leg length.
Regarding residuals though, I found the "bells & whistles" do not provide added value when you com to sell. The extras on my RT were dismissed almost with a wave of the hand and made little difference when I traded it in. My advice therefore would be to spec the bike how you want it and enjoy the extras - just don't expect to get your money back.
I bought a used 2020 R1250RS in November of 2020. Yes, used and it only had 360 miles on it. I"ve put over 4000 on it over the last year and it's great. I love it.
Great review. Thanks Kate. I have had my 1250 GS Exclusive for 12 months and I absolutely love it. I can identify with what you said about responsiveness.
Well done Kate that is actually really sound advise and a pretty solid technical base. I'm well impressed keep doing this. Thanks.
I totally agree with your opinion between the RS and GS. I only ride on road. I love the riding position and flick-ability of my R1250GS and plan on putting on sticker road only tires when the stock ones wear out.
Kate, I have both an RT and an RS. After being off a bike for nearly 20 years, I bought an RT, something I had been dreaming about for decades, then quickly finding I was over my head. I bought an RS to get some seat time that has helped me get used to the RT. I use my RS around town, and the RT for touring. Something I never would have done without the confidence I got on the RS. It just does everything a person could want. Nothing stupid.
Also returning rider (at 70) after totalling an Rt on A deer at 100KPH. The Rs for Me represents what i wanted to ficx on the Rt...1: Get rid fo the bulk ...lose some weight...lose the car mirrors. keep ability to carry pillion and luggage. and lose some fot eh magnificient windprotection but still get sufficent wind coverage to be comfy on long distance higway travel.
Hey Kate! I totally agree with you after having my 1st GS1250 in November
I was going to get the GSA, but chose the GS because more practicality and not wanting to carry that additional weight
The low and behold after writing my GS right now it's got 3200 miles on it, that bike is the most nimble and fun Motorcycle that I've ever owned, and I've been writing since 72
It can be the sportiest when I go around the twisties of the local mountains in Southern California, or like 3 weeks ago when I took a 5 day ride through Arizona and some of the back roads and I moto camped, it's the most versatile motorcycle ever!
Thank you for your rambling, haha, but it was all good!
Keep safe and keep the videos coming and I know this was an old one but I just found your channel this morning
Thanks for your review. Just got my R1250RS earlier this week and your review was one of the things that went into my decision process. It’s an absolutely brilliant bike. So far when filtering in heavy traffic I just think like a cop - calm progress. I don’t mind scooters whizzing past me - I’m not trying to keep up with anyone. The boxer engine is awesome: very civilised at low speed, can push on in any gear and really accelerate when you want it to. The standard seat height is completely fine for me (and I’m tall) - I’m a returning biker and as soon as I sat on it, it felt like home. The side stand *is* sometimes a bit vertical - so I do find myself parking it on the centre stand if I’m parking at an angle where the camber of the road isn’t helping me.
Thanks for the review Kate , I quiet enjoyed it. I live in the heart of Naples Italy where the roads are full of holes and bumps very narrow up and down alleys and a lot of filtering. I was strictly a sport bike rider until moving here from Florida but found riding a ZX10r in this city torture. I bought an F800GS thinking it might be ideal for these roads but I had 2 main issues with the 800 first the height of the bike even with the low seat put me in situations where getting my feet on the ground at 5’8”was iffy . The second issue was smile factor , it just wasn’t there. In 2016 I test road a R1200 and was very favorably impressed. Finally after seeing many reviews like yours for the last two years I purchased the R1250 RS for 2021. Although I have only just turned 1000 kilometers and most of my riding has been in the city I’m loving the bike more and more on each ride. The power is so much more usable than anything I’ve ever ridden and she makes me smile. Even though the boxer seems wider than my 800 , the RS is actually much easier to filter. The number one large displacement bike sold in Italy is the big GS and for taller riders It may be the better choice but for shorter riders like me the RS is the ticket. Thanks again for your entertaining review and keep the shiny side up. Rickey Mooty
I'm the same height as you, had a GS for 10 years (110,000Km) Height and top heavyness never disapeared.....) Currently riding an 03 R 1150R and the comfort of easy ground access adds infinately to the ride. The rs would address the only lack on the R. LAck of wind protection.
I totally agree I put Michelin rd 4’s on my old gsa handled like a dream 👍
Nice bike. I used to own the 1200 RS (before it was stolen) and really liked it except for two things which I changed. It needed risers as the positioning gave me wrist ache on long journeys and the placement of the satnav.
I'm in the market for something BMW with the boxer, on road only and your comparison between the RS and GS is super helpful. Thanks heaps for your review, your a star and keep up the good work.
Thanks Tim!
Nice to see someone doing a vid up near my neck of the woods, standish and some of the roads I ride.
Hi Kate. I have an RS & added helibar riaers to it & it changed the handling. The steering has gone so much lighter & responsive.
My fav bike to ride whenever I have a demo is a 1250 gsa & I love the way the bike is so flickable with its comfy bar position & I'm so pleased I've nearly got that now with my risers as they lift & sit you up a bit more. Only took 15 mins to fit so will be quick to change back for my next trackday. Great review Kate.
Did the Helibars fit with the standard brake and clutch cables or did they have to be replaced/modified?
Many thanks.
Lovely review, Kate. It has definitely given me something to think about before my trip to BMW next month.
The reason the GS is so much more flickable / less stable than the RS is because it has a higher center of gravity than the RS. Higher the COG the less needed to lean it. Lower the COG the more needed. The lower COG is more stable & more forgiving, but it's less flickable.
Hi, I recently found your channel and I'm enjoying your reviews - thanks. I'm looking to replace my elderly F800GT and after something more engaging. I previously owned a Sprint ST1050 and I can see the R12500RS as a good, up to date, option. I'm only a tad taller than you so appreciate your insight from that perspective. I've also considered the F900 XR but I see a huge jump in general value/quality comparing BMWs larger bikes to the mid range options. The R1250RS is just so much better value/equipped than an F900XR. The low seat option looks ideal.
Thank you for the video, considering getting my 1st BMW bike (from a GSXR600), helped me a lot 👍🏻😁
Just drove mine home from the dealership yesterday. I'm going to get a dozen tickets on this thing or worse. Filtering as you guys put is effortless compared to my wethead RT. I bought this because after 5yrs on the RT I only took one really long trip or commuted. Never really rode it just for fun but I'm thinking I will on the RS.
Hi Kate, as an older rider I have ridden a few BMW RS, R100 RS, and K100 RS, Flying Brick, and of course the R1200 GS and R1250 GS Exclusive which I ride now and it is one hell of a machine, of course I test rode the RS1250,nice bike but not for me , the R1250 GS is such a good all rounder and very comfortable, RS 1250 too cramped for me, still a good bike, good review , ride safe and stay safe.
I have a 16 rs bought new luv it. Thx for the vid. Good review and your pleasant voice.
Thanks a bunch for the video. I was keen on buying a R 1250 RS, so watching your video helped a lot in my purchase decision. It was delivered to me last week. So far I'm loving it. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
I purchased a 2016 1200 RS a few months ago and I love it. I have owned the 2016 1200 R which I loved but I walked into the BMW dealership to ask a few questions and I traded my R for the RS. Huge difference in all aspects.
Cheers from San Antonio, Texas
No heated seats and no backlit switches. I still like mine tho. A mature bike and shaft drive a big plus
Love it. Beautiful, comfortable, good performance, good fuel economy.
You make me feel at home listening to a nothern lass..
Again, another great video Kate. You asked for feedback from the owner's of RS. I have the 2020 R1250RS Option719 with Remus, panniers, helibars, and GPS. I have owned 12 other bikes in 7 years, ranging from Honda cruisers (4), Triumph Thunderbirds (2), ST1300, Trophy SE, R1200RT LC, K1600GT, Yamaha Raider S (still have) and now the RS. The RS is the most enjoyable bike of all. I do not do off-road, stay on pavement, not in to extended long range touring and camping. I don"t have a problem with trailering the bike to a destination and riding the twisties, "Tail of the Dragon", The Guantlet when time is critical. This RS will do it all better than any of the others. The RT was too hot, the K1600GT was heavy, the cruisers were uncomfortable after 150 miles, etc. I can ride the RS all day, in the heat of Georgia, take a little gear, and maintain a presence with most spirited riders. I am comfortable and happy. BTW, the Triumph Trophy SE was the second best bike I have ever owned but became nervous Triumph was discontinuing the bike and values would fall, was time for it to go.
Thank you so much for providing an owners perspective 😁 glad you enjoy the RS! So jealous you have the tail of the dragon over there!
That's so interesting to read you saying the RT was too hot, because I agree. I had a 2012 RT, and when summer hit even here in Canada I had to invest in some premium mesh gear, but once the temperature went above 86 degrees I was already sweltering! Superb weather protection but too protective lol. Looking forward to my '22 RS !
Another great video Kate. Thx. Suggestion: Consider starting your videos with you and the bike, stiil camera (non fish eye) with B-Roll closeups, intro the bike and basic specs, then video ride and your great review insights and comments, finish as you started standing w the bike with final thoughts. Viewers likely want to see more of you and of the bike, versus the mostly the road. Just my 2 cents. Keep up the great work! Oh, if you have access to a 2021+ R1250RT, love to hear your take. 😉👍
I have had a R1250 RS exclusive with all the toys since September. It is so much fun to ride, thanks to the shift cam engine. It is best in the high speed twisties and as well as I motorway hike. You are so right about the side stand being to vertical so have to think when you park.
Good to have you back Kate! Great review of the BMW. Awesome tourer bike for sure. Cheers from the U.S.
I appreciate that DB!! Thanks. Ride safe over there!
Love the channel Kate and would love you to look at the R9T 21 model not so much the Pure! the twin clocks look fab and the 719 option made me feel very excited and can’t wait to go see one, if I can traid in or sell my HD Fatboy 04 plate I will be up for a test ride and purchase one in your store 👍
Ride safe and keep your channel going as me and my friends in Bristol love it 😊
Good review Kate. I have a 2016GS & 2020 1250RS (also 2007 1200R), all different in their abilities & all good, very good. I agree that the RS's kick stand is a little tall. The GS is more flickable & nimble than the RS. The old 1200R is also a lot of fun to get around on too. Unfortunately I will have to part with my GS as bursitis in my hip (I am approaching 70) makes it a wee bit painful throwing my leg over. Kate, I love your transparency & honesty in the reviews, keep up the good work. From the Land Down Under.
Thanks Mark, means a lot! Fair play to you with all those! A stable most would be jealous off, even without a GS in it soon!
As I'm in the process of purchasing the R1250 RS, and this video came to mind. Upon revisiting it, I was delighted by the clarity with which you explained why one might choose the R1250RS over the GS. Kate, to the best of my knowledge, you were the first person I've encountered who articulated the differences between these bikes in such a straightforward manner, great job👍.
I wholeheartedly agree with your insights🤩, particularly regarding the significance of factors like rake and wheelbase, which truly distinguish the riding experiences offered by these two models. Your ability to convey this information is commendable, and I want to express my appreciation for your hard work.
Keep up the excellent work, and please continue to provide the valuable insights that enthusiasts like myself crave. Thank you for your dedication and for sharing your expertise💥
Test rode this machine 10 days a ago and just fell in love with it. Might have to say goodbye to my BMWF800GT!!
Yay! So glad you loved it! 🙌
@@UsernameKate So falling in love with this bike on a test ride meant I did say goodbye to my F800GT and have had my R1250 RS Sport for just a week and boy is it beautiful to ride. I have watched your excellent video again and noted your comments about the side stand....I'm so glad you have mentioned it (I thought it was just me finding it odd). It is very 'upright' and that means I have to watch carefully where I park else the bike feels like it will tip over. I am the same height as you
This young woman fascinates me, not least with her excellent clear English. Gree.. from Hamburg
Also looks better than the bikes 👍👍
Nice video, honest introduction ;) I love this 1250RS and hope to own one sometime. Thank you for the test !
GS has the special front fork. If you ride alone but use the 2 helmet setting the rear lifts a lot and the steering angle gets so it really likes to turn. Side winds really don't bother the GS, maybe because of the special fork. I like that I got the GS with stronger, spoked wheels. Came from an '85 K100RS w 203,000 miles, owned since 37,000 miles and like the small GS fairings but still getting used to the wide bars.
Nice little top tip there! Thanks for commenting!
Never get tired of your reviews Kate!
Hi KateJust love your passion for motorcycle keep up the good work
Thanks Mick! Too kind 😊
Great review, bought the Austin yellow sport and I love it. Great machine. Can't find a single thing to complain about except the lack of time to ride more. Love the accent.
Have you had the ticking issue with the Left cylinder head that so many have complained about ?
Kate thanks for the ride vid. Yes I would like a walk round and comments on managing 240kg off the stand / parking please.
I have a 2020 RS Exclusive and a 2019 R 1250 GS Adventure. I love them both and I do use the GS off-road, but it is a perfect road touring Bike.
I absolutely love my rs1200 sport one of the best bikes I've ever owned or ridden and that engine is a peach
Hi Nancy. I’m thinking of test riding the Rs. How do you find the bike at slow speed / parking given it weighs 240kg?
@@billsnell1481 the weight is quite low so for me I find the balance really good and slow speeds are fine, I wouldn't necessarily rush to do a bike gymkhana on it, but this is the first bike in quite some time that I feel I could ride a u turn. I wanted a bike to tour on so I went with the faired option, otherwise I would have gone for the naked as it does just have the edge on finer handling, but that's entirely personal and that's like me saying I'd rather have a stripped out sports car vs one with all the comforts. So yes it's a heavy bike, but it doesn't feel it one bit.
Hi Kate. I have a 2016 R1200RS that has all of the options. I haven't ridden the new 12550RS but I've ridden the new 1250GS. My impression of the new boxer motor is that it like the 1200 boxer, only better! Have you noticed that the sound the new motor makes is subtly different? I don't know how to describe the difference, other than it is different! In general, I love my RS. If I had to sum it up, it is a great daily ride! I've done several 500+ mile days on it and it's only on those days that the RS starts to feel a little small and that I had the GS. Where I live, we almost always get afternoon and evening winds. 70 MPH into a 20 MPH wind and I get the snot beat out of me. (I'm 6' tall with a 32" inseam). I put a Puig screen on it and it helps, however, there's always a tradeoff. Put that big screen up front with a lot of plastici hanging there in the wind and now you're dealing with vibrations induced from the wind screen. The factory wind screen does a great job at this speeds IF there isn't the additional atmospheric wind. On shorter trips, it's no big deal. You sit down behind the dash and windscreen a bit more on the GS and I think the wind protection it offers is better. The RS is super flickable like you say. It doesn't have the top end of a SuperSport bike, but man, that 0-100 MPH acceleration is intoxicating. If I had a gripe about the '16 it would be that it has the older clunky gearbox and the quick-shifter is just ok. The new ones work like magic! The other small niggle is the old orange LCD display is not the greatest. It's really hard to get the things you want to look at on one screen and the analog speedo is almost impossible to read at a glance because the numbers are so small.The Nav VI mount on the handlebars isn't great either. The GS location below the windscreen is much better. WRT to the stand being too tall, I would probably have disagreed before a month ago when a strong wind blew the bike off of the side stand so yea, a little shorter stand would've been nice! I want to do long distance trips and I think the bigger luggage available on a GS, bigger size and better wind protection is going to make that the next bike in my stable.
Thank you for your comments! I love reading these as it gives readers a real impression of what it is like for an owner, who have far more experience with the bike and a tually live with it. Thanks again!
You are awesome! So glad you posted this! This helps so much especially knowing we are the same height. I have a very(very!) LOVED 2005 R1200ST which I demoed at a rally and bought one shortly after returning home. I have a hard time finding a newer bike that suits my riding preferences. So excited! I will also say I can never say never as I also tried the Street Triple, that might have to find a place in the garage as well....
Nice honest review, i had a sit on that bike yesterday(my GS was having a check up) a quick clip to advise suspension set upon BMWs,F 900XR thoughts and a must for the next video the navigator VI :)
Noted Gary! Thanks for the feedback!
Test rode one last week. Smooth, comfortable but dare I say a bit boring? I took off from BMW on my Ducati thinking ahh that's better. I love most bikes but not quite ready to be that pampered I need something that bites back, excites me. Great ride review!
Like you I am totally impressed with the boxer engine and until you’ve ridden one you won’t believe how smooth the power delivery is. I ride a 2018 R1200 gsa and even pulling all that weight it is impressive. From the U S stay safe!!
Thank you!!! Appreciate your comment. Ride safe too 🙏 👌 ❤
Hey, just caught your first live stream recording. Good stuff. Seems we both walked away with the same souvenir. Have a plate on my right clavicle and made the same choice not to have it removed just yet. One side says to me it actually adds structural integrity while the other says yes but what if you have another fall? All's good for now though. Maybe once Covid has passed.
Basically to have been blessed in the walking away part and capable to continue with such a passion is amazing. 10 broken ribs, punctured lung and yep....left wrist worked on ....just keep flowing the Adventure with Challenges all wrapped up in a beautiful Mystery to me and I'm good with it All.
Glad to hear you mention Teapotone I follow him as well.
Be Well
Stay Safe
Very informative review. I have a 2016 R1200GSA and a 2016 S1000XR. You have me wanting to take a 1250 for a ride now. Also, I gotta say you have a wonderful voice/accent! You got a new sub.
Thank you! 😊
Hi. Kate. Great vids..and very nice to see an opinion that doesn’t go like this. “ if you don’t ride off road, then you don’t need a GS. You need an RS.” Blah, blah blah! I ride my GS cos I believe it’s the best road bike for me! Keep up the jolly good work and ride as you see fit.
Hi Kate. Excellent video and information. I enjoyed the ride too. I have a 1200 GSA, really like it, does all and more than I need. That RS looks and sounds great though. Love that British scenery on your motorcycle ride, would enjoy riding through that.
Thanks for the review. Will definitely be my next bike. Love the accent!
i always look forward when ya put a video on there great
Thanks Robert! That's lovely 😊
Yes, I own an RS. Had the 1200 RS, but I decked it. Shame. But the 1250 is a real improvement in power, not that I ever found the 1200 wanting. It is a really handsome bike. It needs better horns, and the mod to do that is, err, difficult. The stand angle seems to vary between units. Mine is fine.
Certainly seems powerful enough! Great video 👍🏻
I'm 1m 71 and therefore have always been reluctant to the BMW's flagship, due to its height mainly. Then I discovered your channel and since, you became a source of inspiration for me
Thank you for that :-)
I've ridden the R1250R (very similar model) and it has a surprisingly low seat height - I'm 1m70 and my feet were flat on the floor plus my knees were bent too. Get to a BMW showroom and sit on a few models 👍
@@RikkyTang Good to know !
Thanks for your feedback
That's lovely to hear. Thank you! And Rikky is right, definitely get yourself down to a showroom and sit on some bikes, you might be surprised 😊
1m73 (5'7") inseam 32" and was Ok on 1200 GS. You only need 1 foot on ground.
Got the 1200rs think it's a great bike. Definitely deserves to be more popular. Great video too thanks👍
Thanks James! It is a cracking machine for sure 👍
No doubt you’re a biker and give us genuine good info on your reviews. Keep it up Kate.
I just got myself one of the same color and I´m loving it!
I'm not a fan of the color, but I would have loved to have been able to ride it on the trip I just got back from. I rode 1200 MILES in 20 hours to visit one of my sons. I spent a week riding bikes with him, and, on my birthday, traveled the 1200 miles back. So, now I will have 2 more SS1000 patches on my riding vest. If I had been able to ride a bike like that, my feet and lower legs wouldn't have swollen and my throttle hand would not be still a bit numb after being home for two days now. Haha. Y'all be safe.
I rode the R1200R for a while and loved it to bits, very nimble comfortable and fast when you like. I've been toying with the idea of switching to the RS but could never figure out in what way they ride that much differently. Surprisingly not many f2f comparison between the two so curious to know your views besides one not having fairings and being more upright than the other. Thanks for the review, great fun as usual ;-)
The R has a shorter diff ratio so around town and off the line much quicker. The RS is going to feel slightly lazy unless you're doing motorway miles.
I can only agree with you and the RS is pleasantly quiet while driving
Cracking good video, gotta love that austin yellow metallic matt.
I test ride one off them last year really nice looking bike comfortable and very quick as well
Ace arent they!
Yea they are good
My only issue is the constantly unclear, blurred dash.
Lol
It annoys me so it must annoy you 😫😂 needs must til I find a neater way.
Every time she gets moving at all the screen just breaks. What a shame.
I’m sure Williams could sort the pixelated dash out under warranty ;-)
@@arangillespie exactllyyyyyy 😬😉
Yup side sand on r1250r is also makes the bike stand up straight’ish so you have to be careful. Another great video, keep them coming. Is there any news on the forth coming S1000r
I think we all would of had adventure bikes a long time ago but we all thought a sports bike like a fireblade or a zx6-r was what we needed. If someone had tried a Honda verado or a kle500 or a tdm850 they would have been hooked. Roads are no place for a sports bike anyway. Soon as it does what it's designed for it's breaking the law
You are a gorgeous Liverpoolian also, I lived near London in Finchely with my parents back in the mid 60's, I'd love to move back, I like it there far better than America, I prefer the climate, great video, I ride a 09 r1200rt, absolutely lovely bike, no trouble what so ever but do wish I could afford a newer bike, a 2010 or on further, having to repair fuel pump and controller then I'll be back out, enjoy all your rides gal, have fun and stay safe.
Haha I'm definitely not a liverpudlian lol!!!! I am a Lancashire lass 🤣 good to hear that you love your RT 😊
Greetings from the USA. Great review. I have the exclusive and like it a lot.
Yet again another great video and an honest sounding sales person as well.
Thank you Peter!!! I just give my impression and tell people if they are considering... ride it yourself as me with my own perspectives and stature may have a completely different experience from the next person 😊
I like the video. Well done. Do you know how this compares to a 1050 Speed Triple?
I just got a nice used 2020 1250RS. Really like the sport and touring blend.
Ace! I hope you love it 😊 Have a Happy New Year 👍
Good vid, I was just about to book a test ride the day before lockdown at my local dealer on a R1250R, I'm looking forward to your look at that one, Great work keep them coming
Thanks for the review, nice job. I’m a recent subscriber so just picked this up. Can you do an in depth walk round please? I have a F800GT and I’m thinking of this as an option. Looking to do some ride outs with a bike club and also some touring. I’d appreciate your thoughts please.
Great video. I'm new to your channel and I'm considering both the GS and the RS. I have an inseam similar to yours and was thinking the GS might be a little tall for me. I look forward to watching more of your videos.
Hi Kate,loved this no nonsense review.
Had three VFR 800's on the bounce,great bike and faultless apart from being just a little bit lacking in the go department when touring with a bit of weight onboard.
Tried Pidcock's demo 1250 RS and wow what an engine,and a great overall package.
A new RS Exclusive arrives next month with my name on it,can't wait!
(As a shorty I've asked for the 760mm low seat,a no cost option as you know but others may not,made all the difference for me on the test ride).
Enjoyed the review. Good value statements and application insight. Nice selection. Just had me and my ride (R1250R HP 2020) taken out while traversing through a roundabout on Vancouver Island by a BIG Blue VW Van. Have already ordered my replacement Journey partner ...the 2021 BMW R1250GS Black Storm (Triple Black) fully loaded. Should be an Amazing year ahead.
Cheers,
PG
I love the looks. Wish I could get that bike with the s1000r engine though.
Fun review thanks Kate. Really fancy the boxer engine for next bike (currently on F750GS). I don't go off-road but suspect the GS will be better option for comfort and wind/weather protection. Riding in Scotland it's always pissing rain and windy so this is a major consideration. Cheers.
Well what a review !! you're up there with the likes of Teapotone,Richy Vida,Missenderflyer,Lambchops.Not not bad for a 5ft 4 inchs Lady.Thanks for sticking up for the GS - it's the Suv of Bikes. Ride & Stay Safe.Cheers !!!!
Oh man! Thanks Jonathan. High praise indeed! 😊
Great review and nice bike I don’t like the look of the exhaust enjoyed the ride 👍
Hi Kate,just yesterday i bought a new R1250RS! I'm waiting for delivery and the test drive was perfect and since I live in Munich I think BMW is a great choice! And yes I always wanted a BMW and I fell in love yesterday! so now I look at the other opinions, pros and cons of the R1250RS
Hey Branimir! Great choice! I really enjoyed the 1250RS! Lots of positives! Only negative I found with it is you need to be careful where you park as the side stand is pretty vertical and tall, so there is not much lean when it's on the side stand. This needs extra attention when parking on hills. And make sure you leave it on first gear when stopped to give yourself a fighting chance 😊
Hi Kate, yes I own a 2020 R1250RS I moved down from the K1300GT (2010) I love the bike I did also Own a GS but wanted something I could ride and not feel I'm on tour all the time I have a fully loaded model but have found 3 pain points 1) it's advertised as the Sport tourer but it is one of the few that does not come with the "Sport" Dash. 2) Dynamic Pro makes no sense as you can only mix and match Dynamic Road or rain settings since there is no difference in the Dynamic and Dynamic Pro modes in power just traction can be made more intrusive. 3) the position of the GPS is not well-conceived as you can't see it while riding. The RS also has a different final drive gear ratio which makes it more agile in the twisties than the GS. The only issue I have found so far in the 6k km I have ridden since May this year is the small grommet was missing on the side cover (Battery) causing vibrations and the Dashboard SW being very niggly connecting with Helmet and or mobile but I understand there is a new version that takes 3-4 hours to upload when I go for the next service. I have the factory panniers so it looks like a RT on a diet ;) One reason I bought this rather than the GS is the value for money I could not justify the extra costs for a GS with the same equipment level.
Ill have a big bike one day haha, good video 👌
Kate, you are right about the kickstand. I have the R1200R Lc. Can't park if the left side of the ground is a little higher. I'm 5'5" and 28" inseam. The seat is 820mm high so I have to be careful. I'm in California where drive on the right side of the road so pulling over to the right can be a problem. You're 5'4"? I think so, I admire your skills. The KTMs are similar. The advantage is that it make it easier to bring the bike vertical.
Nice bike... goes to the top of my bike replacement list :)
Nice one Kate , You done a good job there .