The more filters you attatch the less clean your image will get. I would always avoid having any filters, including especially UV filters, if I dont actually need them for either technical or artistic purposes. You barely ever need a UV filter. Actually with current cameras, you much rather need IR filters. Just watch out for your gear.
@@73jayzee Make sure to not spend too much money on your lenses then because you will be sacrificing a lot of its advantages by adding filters that dont serve a direct purpose making anything more expensive than Samyangs new primes pointless. After all they are already pretty good at being very clean.
I just purchased this system and I am ver happy with it. One concern I have is with the polarizer. Of course it must be rotated to get the polarizing effect, but when I rotate it I loose the lock position. I'm concerned the filter is subject to falling off if it gets bumped after rotating.
I believe that they had choose between that or making the filter thicker and risking vignetting. As I'm sure you've felt, the magnets are really strong, so I can't see this happening unless you drop the camera or bump it really hard against something. Hopefully it doesn't happen!
Really happy to see this series from NiSi! I have the Marumi Magnetic Movie Kit, and while i love the idea, i hate that the magnets is too weak, especially when you combine couple of filters it's totally unusable because magnets doesn't holds the stacked filters. But i like that they have 1, 2, 3, 4 stops in the kit, so it's a bit more flexible than yours in terms of stops. And also it's 2 times cheaper :-) But as i said, the weak magnets without the lock make it problematic. Also it scratch pretty fast. So i'm ready to pay more for a good product. Also i have NiSi True-Color VND, and i love it. But i just wish it to be magnetic with lock :-) So waiting for it ;-)
Been waiting awhile for NiSi to release a magnetic ND system but I'm glad they didn't just rush something to market! Have been using the Kase Wolverine Magnetic system for a few years now and love it, but I have knocked off the filters quite a few times and the available ND strengths are quite limited. This looks to be a perfect hybrid kit for filmmaking and photography. Would love to see graduated filters in the future, glad to hear that is being worked on! Also for what it's worth I prefer hard stop ND filters over variable. Even the best variable filters have image quality issues.
I totally agree with fixed density NDs, but getting someone who learnt on variable to switch to fixed density is like getting someone who's been driving automatic for 20 years to switch to a manual transmission 🤣
Please if possible make the magnetic variable ND compatible with the other mag filters, e.g Variable ND with your black pro mist 1/8 on top. But very exited about this, been stuck on the Freewell Magnetic VND, tried all their new ones but all have issues. The K2 was too big and cumbersome and the V2 Magnetic Hybrid I hated the screws as they where too fiddly and would get bent while taken it off.
It is even faster and more convenient to change filters on the Nisi C5 matte box system, but there are no square Nisi FS ND filters, which is a big omission on the part of Nisi. Also, this matte box lacks a second slot for square filters. the best thing would be to make three slots for square filters on this matte box, without a 4x5.65 slot, it would be really professional, and the system would be easy. Many people ask for just such a system, but manufacturers do not hear, although their weight would not increase much if they made three slots for square filters. Most of Nisi's customers are most likely videographers and small film crews. Why not make a truly professional product for them, which professionals ask for.
Nisi has a full range of 4x5.65 FSND filters from 0.3 - 3.0. Just check with your local distributor as some neglect the cine market, so they may not have it listed. We agree that the C5's combination of 4x5.65 and 4x4 is strange, but you still can't beat C5 on value for money in terms of optical quality. We are trying to encourage them to make a more premium matte box with 3x 4x5.65 trays and a tray that can adapt for the 4x4 rota filters in the C5 system.
@@NiSiOpticsZA The point is that NISI does not currently have a good compendium offer for single videographers and small film crews, who make up the majority of buyers of such products. Tilta Mirage offers a solution with several slots for round and good-quality FS ND filters, which are cheaper due to the fact that less glass is used, and weigh only about 30 grams. There is no point in overpaying for 4x5/65 if they are heavier and more expensive several times. Round 95 mm. they do an excellent job, but they weigh much less. The only disadvantage in their system is VND, which is worse in quality than NISI. Otherwise, C5 is a compromise in relation to Tilta. It is necessary to develop the direction of mobile matte boxes with 95 mm filters, for those who need them, and many people need them. 95 mm for the NISI compendium can be cheaper, and the system will be easier, put three slots for 95 mm, and there will be an excellent, lightweight, high-quality system.
@@NiSiOpticsZA Or if NISI does not want to make a mobile and lightweight matte box, specifically with round filters, so let at least the square FSND 4x4 release in all ND values. This would be a good step to meet customers. But, I repeat, the round solution would be the best solution for mobile videography and shooting by small shooting teams when lenses up to 95 mm are used.
Can I just say I really dig the lighting of this video, any chance of a breakdown? Also, excited for the upcoming VND and matte box options for filmmakers hurray! Side note, I have to say, I kept hearing "jetlag" as I watched this video lol
Thanks Geoff, glad you like it. The filmmaker who shot is for us is very secretive about his magic, but you can check out his work on Instagram - instagram.com/visigrafi?igsh=MXNpc3lqNmJsb2J0Yw==
Unfortunately this isn't feasible as almost each lens from each manufacturer has a slightly different bayonet for the lens hood. They are developing a matte box, which partly serves the same purpose - shielding the glass from direct sunlight.
How can the CPL be rotated? I once had a magnetic system of an other vendor. There the CPL rotation was realised by rotating the whole CPL filter in the magnetic mount. But this was very cumbersome because the magnet increased the friction and it sounded like scratching metal on metal. It was nothing like it is on NiSis Swift System where the CPL has its own rotation mechanism. So how is it here?
The CPL is rotated simple by turning it on the filter or step-ring that it's mounted on. The rotation is super smooth on Jetmag, so I don't see this being a problem. I suspect that with the VND they will have some sort of position lock (probably a bayonet that's closed on one side), so that the entire filter doesn't simply rotate when you rotate it to darken/lighten.
I’m not convinced H&Y have a filter thread system that adapt to any thread at 52,48, 77 etc all in 1 , this system you still need step up rings for various & differing threads It’s only progress is that it’s magnetic like everybody else’s so what?
@@darkknightwithanidea1845 everyone has preferences and some may prefer an all-in-one ring to the Jetmag system. The good thing about a healthy market is competition, which bring different solutions to market.
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This is exactly what I've been wanting. A stay-in-place protective UV that I can magnetically stack filters on top of. Sweet!
You might just have to take it off when shooting wide with multiple filters, but it should be fine most of the time :) Thanks for watching.
The more filters you attatch the less clean your image will get. I would always avoid having any filters, including especially UV filters, if I dont actually need them for either technical or artistic purposes. You barely ever need a UV filter. Actually with current cameras, you much rather need IR filters. Just watch out for your gear.
@@disco.jellyfishI just want a physical protection - I always end up scratching the element!
@@73jayzee Make sure to not spend too much money on your lenses then because you will be sacrificing a lot of its advantages by adding filters that dont serve a direct purpose making anything more expensive than Samyangs new primes pointless. After all they are already pretty good at being very clean.
@@disco.jellyfish good advice! I am with L-mount but I'll check them out cheers
This man is so sharp in focus it hurts my eyes.
I use a different magnetic system and it is a life changer. THIS version seems great. I see it in my feature.
I just purchased this system and I am ver happy with it. One concern I have is with the polarizer. Of course it must be rotated to get the polarizing effect, but when I rotate it I loose the lock position. I'm concerned the filter is subject to falling off if it gets bumped after rotating.
I believe that they had choose between that or making the filter thicker and risking vignetting. As I'm sure you've felt, the magnets are really strong, so I can't see this happening unless you drop the camera or bump it really hard against something. Hopefully it doesn't happen!
Cheers so much for your in-depth run through 😊 It looks great ❤
Happy to help!
I waited for them so long! I always switching diffusion filters and CPL ones.
I have the NISI Tru Color VND system and I'm impressed with NISI products and ideas. This seems like a good take on using optical filters.
Really happy to see this series from NiSi! I have the Marumi Magnetic Movie Kit, and while i love the idea, i hate that the magnets is too weak, especially when you combine couple of filters it's totally unusable because magnets doesn't holds the stacked filters. But i like that they have 1, 2, 3, 4 stops in the kit, so it's a bit more flexible than yours in terms of stops. And also it's 2 times cheaper :-) But as i said, the weak magnets without the lock make it problematic. Also it scratch pretty fast. So i'm ready to pay more for a good product.
Also i have NiSi True-Color VND, and i love it. But i just wish it to be magnetic with lock :-) So waiting for it ;-)
Been waiting awhile for NiSi to release a magnetic ND system but I'm glad they didn't just rush something to market! Have been using the Kase Wolverine Magnetic system for a few years now and love it, but I have knocked off the filters quite a few times and the available ND strengths are quite limited. This looks to be a perfect hybrid kit for filmmaking and photography. Would love to see graduated filters in the future, glad to hear that is being worked on! Also for what it's worth I prefer hard stop ND filters over variable. Even the best variable filters have image quality issues.
I totally agree with fixed density NDs, but getting someone who learnt on variable to switch to fixed density is like getting someone who's been driving automatic for 20 years to switch to a manual transmission 🤣
Please if possible make the magnetic variable ND compatible with the other mag filters, e.g Variable ND with your black pro mist 1/8 on top. But very exited about this, been stuck on the Freewell Magnetic VND, tried all their new ones but all have issues. The K2 was too big and cumbersome and the V2 Magnetic Hybrid I hated the screws as they where too fiddly and would get bent while taken it off.
wow, well this is being bought
It is even faster and more convenient to change filters on the Nisi C5 matte box system, but there are no square Nisi FS ND filters, which is a big omission on the part of Nisi. Also, this matte box lacks a second slot for square filters. the best thing would be to make three slots for square filters on this matte box, without a 4x5.65 slot, it would be really professional, and the system would be easy. Many people ask for just such a system, but manufacturers do not hear, although their weight would not increase much if they made three slots for square filters. Most of Nisi's customers are most likely videographers and small film crews. Why not make a truly professional product for them, which professionals ask for.
Nisi has a full range of 4x5.65 FSND filters from 0.3 - 3.0. Just check with your local distributor as some neglect the cine market, so they may not have it listed.
We agree that the C5's combination of 4x5.65 and 4x4 is strange, but you still can't beat C5 on value for money in terms of optical quality. We are trying to encourage them to make a more premium matte box with 3x 4x5.65 trays and a tray that can adapt for the 4x4 rota filters in the C5 system.
@@NiSiOpticsZA The point is that NISI does not currently have a good compendium offer for single videographers and small film crews, who make up the majority of buyers of such products. Tilta Mirage offers a solution with several slots for round and good-quality FS ND filters, which are cheaper due to the fact that less glass is used, and weigh only about 30 grams. There is no point in overpaying for 4x5/65 if they are heavier and more expensive several times. Round 95 mm. they do an excellent job, but they weigh much less. The only disadvantage in their system is VND, which is worse in quality than NISI. Otherwise, C5 is a compromise in relation to Tilta. It is necessary to develop the direction of mobile matte boxes with 95 mm filters, for those who need them, and many people need them. 95 mm for the NISI compendium can be cheaper, and the system will be easier, put three slots for 95 mm, and there will be an excellent, lightweight, high-quality system.
@@NiSiOpticsZA Or if NISI does not want to make a mobile and lightweight matte box, specifically with round filters, so let at least the square FSND 4x4 release in all ND values. This would be a good step to meet customers. But, I repeat, the round solution would be the best solution for mobile videography and shooting by small shooting teams when lenses up to 95 mm are used.
Can I just say I really dig the lighting of this video, any chance of a breakdown? Also, excited for the upcoming VND and matte box options for filmmakers hurray! Side note, I have to say, I kept hearing "jetlag" as I watched this video lol
Thanks Geoff, glad you like it. The filmmaker who shot is for us is very secretive about his magic, but you can check out his work on Instagram - instagram.com/visigrafi?igsh=MXNpc3lqNmJsb2J0Yw==
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@@ldkmadeit thank you!
Nice design
Very nice :D Thanks for watching
Hi, Is this true color? I m so happy with my swift systtem nd filters.
The polarizer is the True Colour version. The FSND filters have the latest technologies - their colour is better than the True Colour VND.
Great idea. I could be nice see also the same on the variable ND line!!
Coming soon :)
+1 for me
great news!! Thanks. Hope to see also other size like 86 or 95
@ they will also make a 95mm system with step rings to 86,82 and 77 :)
@@NiSiOpticsZA great! Nice to hear!
Are they also working on a mini matte box like the competitors have? Specifically, one that works with these filters?
They are working on a matte box, but we have no details at this stage
can you not use lens hood when these filters are being utilized?
Nope, unfortunately from a design perspective it's either no vignetting or lens hood
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Are you going to make any lens hoods for this system?
Unfortunately this isn't feasible as almost each lens from each manufacturer has a slightly different bayonet for the lens hood. They are developing a matte box, which partly serves the same purpose - shielding the glass from direct sunlight.
How can the CPL be rotated? I once had a magnetic system of an other vendor. There the CPL rotation was realised by rotating the whole CPL filter in the magnetic mount. But this was very cumbersome because the magnet increased the friction and it sounded like scratching metal on metal. It was nothing like it is on NiSis Swift System where the CPL has its own rotation mechanism. So how is it here?
The CPL is rotated simple by turning it on the filter or step-ring that it's mounted on. The rotation is super smooth on Jetmag, so I don't see this being a problem.
I suspect that with the VND they will have some sort of position lock (probably a bayonet that's closed on one side), so that the entire filter doesn't simply rotate when you rotate it to darken/lighten.
I’m not convinced H&Y have a filter thread system that adapt to any thread at 52,48, 77 etc all in 1 , this system you still need step up rings for various & differing threads It’s only progress is that it’s magnetic like everybody else’s so what?
@@darkknightwithanidea1845 everyone has preferences and some may prefer an all-in-one ring to the Jetmag system. The good thing about a healthy market is competition, which bring different solutions to market.
Will Jetmag Pro system work with any type of matteboxes?
This is impossible to say at this stage, sorry :)
Is nisi South African?
Nisi is 100% Chinese. We are just the South African distributor :)
Oh nice