Lies of P OST (Records) Playlist: ua-cam.com/play/PLxfJZ3cTz86r-GMISqI5eXh_M-XCua_uW.html Lies of P OST (Boss Theme) Playlist: ua-cam.com/play/PLxfJZ3cTz86o6ywmE9L1JBED-2JonVbcp.html
I never knew how horrific this fight was until I realized: 1.) Romeo warned us about Geppetto 2.) Simon Manus warned us about Geppetto 3.) this man is using HIS OWN SON’s BODY FOR THE FINAL BOSS
You forgot to add that: 4. A huge portion of ergo that was flowing into Simon and Sophia went into the nameless puppet, super-charging it with freshly slaughtered Krat citizens for god knows how long. 5. This makes the nameless puppet truly your greatest adversary. While you learned the nature of humanity and ergo on your epic adventure, that puppet was force-fed the same, if not more, amount of thought; only that thought is not of the survivors in Krat, but the "All puppet must die"s, the "I don't want to die"s, the most intense, corrupt form of human thought. 6. The nameless puppet likely became sentient in front of you, when you sliced his skull open. He's basically your younger brother if that's what happened. Look at how he moves in phase 2 and you'll understand. He is everything that you've learned not to be; angry, hateful and very, very afraid. He's the last, and the greatest monster created by the frenzy.
You gotta reach the "Bad" ending. SPOILERS!! In the bad ending, Gepetto kills his former student, Eugenie, and his friend, Vegnini, and replaces them with PUPPETS
@@Jayco2855 Yeah I liked that ending, too. Notice how the evil Carlo was smiling at the death of everyone that isn't Geppetto. I took that as he finally felt safe after all of his torment, like a scared animal with very, very big fangs; which, while twisted af, is the exact conclusion Geppetto wanted - now no one can even come close to hurting his new son. If they allow you to progress the game as evil Carlo, I'd look forward to the day when he starts to see his human father as a threat.
🎶MASTER! MASTER!🎶 🎶MASTER OF PUPPETS, I'M PULLING YOUR STRINGS!🎶 🎶TWISTING YOUR MIND AND SMASHING YOUR DREAMS!🎶 🎶BLINDED BY ME YOU CAN'T SEE A THING!🎶 🎶JUST CALL MY NAME 'CAUSE I'LL HEAR YOU SCREAM!🎶 🎶MASTER!🎶 🎶MASTER!🎶
He wasn’t very good before either, he was neglectful of Carlo and caused the deaths of hundreds just so he could harvest ergo en masse, all so he could make it up to his son, Geppetto is probably just as bad as Simon Manus
@@crypt1k755 Agreed, another fact being he was rarely associated with Carlo before his death. Geppetto dedicated all of his effort to his work. Barely spent any time with his son, Romeo was his only true ally besides his mother who passed. When Carlo died to the petrification disease, rather than accept his own guilt and move on, decided to plot an entire massacre in Krat to revive him. He did not wish to bring back Carlo because he thought his death was unjust, no… he was bringing him back so he could make up for lost time and raise him as an obedient child. Unimaginably f*cked up
@@maniacalmurderer4123 I honestly think Geppetto is more evil than Simon, at least Simon had intentions of bettering humanity in his own evil way, Geppetto is just a selfish and manipulative monster that happily lies and blames others to further his own agenda (Also he apparently had the arm of god up until he was kidnapped by the stalkers, he was probably secretly an alchemist)
@@crypt1k755 To be fair if you get the true ending he does seem to finally change when he sees Carlo crying, even apologizing in his dying breath. Doesn't excuse or undo what he did of course but it shows he wasn't completely heartless, It was unfortunately just too little too late.
It’s so crazy that Romeo warned us that this was gunna happen during the play. At first I had interpreted the play as “oh Gepetto must’ve put his sons heart into a puppet or somethin to save him” then when I got this fight after hearing Romeo’s message, I realized that he knew what was GOING to happen…
First time i saw Geppetto I had my doubt about him, I felt something was weird. But damn, thanks for clarifying this moment at the play cause I completly forgotted about it and remember that it triggered something that I couldn't understand but felt very wrong too.
@@tru3boche was offering to pinocchio the whole game. All of the bosses up to Romeo (except archbishop) are messengers of Romeo but you cant understand them until NG+. They all tell Romeo to join forced with him.
@@stacyOyosee i did too then i was questioning mad donkey, then got to romeo and had a feeling he was trying to show me something? Then after beating him and beating the game, my stupid ass gave my heart to him and got the bad ending, worst part is seeing my girl eugene dead and my response was. "BABYGIRL NOOO OLDMAN NOW ITS PERSONAL, mad donkey was right and romeo!!!" Had to speed run the game and got the good ending, i already know what the 3rd ending is and not doin a 3rd time.
@@katunu6030 It's so tragic how pretty much none of the puppets you encounter actually want to fight you, but the Grand Covenant forced them all to, It's even implied Romeo thougth that they wouldn't be forced to since you are supposed to be a puppet, but Gepetto made sure they attacked even those with an awakened ego
@@mooganify It is a puppet, but a very primitive one, and also an abomination since it uses a rotting corpse as a frame instead of a metal casing like the normal puppets
It’s scary to think that this thing was only able to feel hatred. It probably hated everything. Hated being alive, hated being controlled to fight, hated Pinocchio, and hated Gepetto. The 2nd phase where it acted on its own, you can see the wrath and hatred it had. Super excited to see what they do for the sequel. We gonna be playing the Tin Man.
How this game managed to make *Geppetto* a compelling and terrifying villain, will never not blow my mind. A character who is the quintessential embodiment of “Grief can turn anyone into a monster”. We all probably saw it coming. Foreshadowed by Venigni’s discoveries, warnings from adversaries, and, of course, Geppetto’s own off-putting behavior. We all could tell something was deeply wrong with Geppetto… but only at the very end does he show his true colors, how rotten he is behind the warm facade. This theme doesn’t just reflect the Puppet’s mad state, but that of its puppeteer. It’s just as much Geppetto’s theme as it is the Nameless Puppet’s.
Something to note, which is perhaps scary to think about, is that no one is really sure if this Nameless Puppet has an Ego or not. The Ergo it drops though, and if anyone hasn't read it, does mention that if it was capable of feeling anything, it was one thing. And one thing alone... Hatred. That Grab attack it does when you're caught in it sure does seem to affirm this fact. It Hates you. Perhaps it hates even Geppetto. And the Song perfectly hammers home that it will make sure you die. Your Heart included...
It hates being alive, it hates that Geppetto is using them for something twisted, it hates P for being Geppetto’s true puppet, it hates that it has to exist because of P, it hates that P has a soul and it does not, it hates what it is, it hates everything. At the end of the day, that hate was the thing that killed it and Geppetto. Makes you wonder where it learned that. Geppetto and his years of obsession would’ve done the trick. They both hate what fate has ensured for them. In Geppetto’s own way he projected that feeling of being unable to act outside of fate on the puppets of Krat being unable to act outside of his control. If anything, that puppet was the most honest one we’ve ever met. Once it was released from Geppetto’s control, it let out its true emotions.
Arlecchino was another puppet that only felt hatred towards humanity, but the only difference was his ego awoke. I'm curious if maybe the innocence of Carlo was passed on to Pinocchio, and the hatred and regret/negative emotions towards his father were somehow retained in Carlo's actual body.
This music empathizes everything Pinocchio must be feeling To meet this horrifying creation right after being betrayed by the one you call family. Then be told by said family that you were merely an asset, a conduit, a tool. Then once you refuse to hand over everything that makes you an individual, that gives you meaning, are forced to face the horrifying monstrosity wielding comically large scissors. A monster that needs your soul to truly come to life. It is not just the disfigurement of the puppets appearance that scares you, it’s the meaning behind it’s existence. The thought of its purpose is what truly makes you afraid. That thought combined with the emotional betrayal gives this puppet an overwhelming aura, hence the musics intensity. Not to mention it’s quite literally the corpse of Geppetto’s son reanimated 💀 *It’s interesting if you think about it. It is not the puppet that is scary, it’s the role that it is forced to play.* Edit: just did the fight and found something interesting. There is a rare piece of unwritten dialouge for the Nameless Puppet mid-fight It will mumble the words *“…Kill …me …kill …me”*
You actually make a good point with the Puppet's dialogue because in the Rise of P ending, the Nameless Puppet actively tries to destroy P's heart which would truly bring it to life. It *doesn't* want to be alive.
What you say about wanting us to kill him may make sense, because I think that when we enter the second phase, the blue strings he had are cut, so I think that's when Geppetto lost control of the Puppet and it becomes even more savage. because now, without anyone controlling it, it wants to directly destroy us, destroy us completely. Maybe that dialogue you say appears when he has very little life left, implying that since he sees that he is losing he wants us to kill him, even so a bit of him wants to live and that is why he does not give up in the end and makes a final move. to finish us off, giving rise to Geppeto sacrificing himself and in a certain way being perplexed and scared because he is his father after all.
The nameless puppet isn't meant to become the new body for Carlo, its a special puppet Geppetto made that excels in combat. Per the amulet description it says 'this puppet was cores and the one emotion it could feel was hatred'.
@@gateofbabylon9177 Then why would it be in a box that supposedly Geppetto was going to use the contents of to make you a real human? Not to mention it is Geppetto’s sons corpse. I imagine he planned to use it as a base. Carlo’s memories and Carlos’s body combined with a massive amount of ergo and boom, you have a very f*cked up Carlo Which is interesting if you think about it.
This fight would've hit even harder if arlecchino's quotes echoed during it with the other memories, to show the internal conflict of P during the battle
It's a perfect final boss. Right after Simon, a human who became close to a god, you finish the game not fighting another giant but fighting the other side of "Carlo". You're Carlo's soul residing in a puppet. *It* is Carlo's body infused with insane amount of Ergo, a facade of life, broken souls trapped in a corpse, driven insane by rage. Despite the fact that it's human flesh it's a true monster whereas we, in the body of the puppet, are the real human. I seriously goddamned loved this game so damn much I never thought it was gonna be this good. Edit - I also like to think it was Sophia who plucked Carlo's soul from the ocean of Ergo and sent it to the puppet's body. Geppetto longingly made a puppet in the perfect image of his boy after the abomination he accidentally created, but he couldn't give it life. Sophia sent the "real boy soul" just like the blue fairy from the real story.
He's this game's Orphan. Crazy at first but manageable. Second phase goes apeshit on you and if you don't know what he's gonna do he'll destroy you in seconds.
@@p.istvan8744 couple things. While that may be the case, the point was that Orphan was the most similar thing I could think of. And as someone who has beaten the Orphan about 22-23 times (yes I'm a hopeless Bloodborne veteran) I can tell you that almost everything he does is dodgeable you just need to master his moveset. He's hard. No doubt. But doable once you learn his moveset. I'd also like to add that while at first I thought Lies was easier than Bloodborne, after several playthroughs I've realized that it's just different as the skill set to prosper in the game is just different
@@fullknight4750 it's surprising really. Bloodborne veteran here. Beat the game 25 times and the Orphan almost as many. I see a proportional similarity
0:56 I love how we hear an extremely distorted piano right before the choir kicks in. If a puppet’s ability to play a piano gets better as their humanity increases, then The Nameless Puppet’s humanity is probably the lowest out of all of the puppets that Pinocchio encounters in the game.
I've seen ppl and friends mention the note/text regarding puppets' ability at playing the piano, but I've never found it in-game myself, and I'm already in NG+. Google doesn't seem to help. Could you please tell me where to find it? Thanks!
i think i know why in phase 2 it goes berserk. imagine someone failing to save you, so instead they create a clone of you, leaving you behind as this disfigured mess without even your own memories left, nor a name to call your own.
@@tomekk.1889 and he placed Carlo's ergo, effectively his soul, into another puppet, who only awakened thanks to Sophia. On one scale, there's his real son, his conscious, and his soul; on another - his disfigured courpse, powered by a multitude of agonizing psyches.
It's crazy to think the entire premise of the story is about a man that kills every single human to absorb all of their soul, just so he can revive his dead son.... and puppetizing the remains that has no free will and will always be a "good boy" Geppeto is one of the most disturbingly insane villain of all time
God this boss sure was something else, this one fight took me quite awhile to win. I loved this fight! It was so much fun. I loved the arena, the music, the bosses moveset, everything. It was the perfect way to end the game. It really shows how insane Geppetto is, and how foolish it was for him to get his dead son back alive. He was an awful egotistic father that only cared about himself. Truly a great final boss i did not even carre that i died like how many times. It was such amazing fight.
Might sound weird but i love how after starting the second phase by freeing him of his strings. Hes not sorrowfull of the sins gepetto made him commit, not wanting to right his wrongs Hes just fucking pissed off
This song hits harder when you hear everyone's dialogue on the second phase as like your about to die and all you can hear is your friends voices for one last time, truly one of the best bosses of the game, and the most terrifying of them all
While most of the other boss ost are loud, booming and usually overzealous with energy , this ost on the other hand is disturbing. Not only does it symbolise the abusive nature of gepetto and his eventual fall to sorrow, it also shows that nameless puppet is no ordinary puppet gone rogue and evil. Nameless puppet has only resentment and the thirst to kill with no real ulterior motive. This renders the boss to be quite unsettling, reminds me of the time I felt when unlocking the trinity key housing king of riddles the first time.
Ah, I see the trope "Local old man ruins everything" still continues in video games, especially on the streets of London, Paris, and our lovely little harlet Birmingham
This is one of the few bosses that has made me feel very uncomfortable. We NEED more game designs like this! Old school culmination of your heartfelt journey. Not necessarily a gigantic big bad boss, but something emotionally charged, a real threat. What an excellent game. Love every moment of it. The art, the gameplay, and of course the story.
Not only is this a amazing final boss with a incredible eerie and intense OST but the implications of the Nameless Puppet are kinda insane So we know Geppettos son Carlo died at a young age due to some kind of sickness but when we are fighting the Namless Puppet he isn’t really a puppet… He has skin and seems to be a body with tubes coming out of it so what we are made to believe is that Geppetto somehow artificially grew up Carlos dead body (because remember Carlo died as a kid) and this makes sense because this is the first ever puppet created by Geppetto who else’s body would Geppetto have used? It only makes sense if it’s Carlo The nameless puppets weapon is literally called Proof of Humanity (which ofc is a lie) also his nameless puppet rises out of the box Carlos hand came out of in the other ending from the King of Puppets stage performance we also know Geppetto took Carlos heart (and I’m assuming his memories) into P so where did the rest of Carlos body go? To the Nameless puppet nameless because the real Carlo is within P and this is just a mindless puppet only set on killing P All signs point to Namless Puppet being Carlos corpse and that’s just crazy and disturbing
Carlo didn't die as a kid, he at least must have been 20+ In one of the flashback audio scenes, Romeo mentions that Geppetto missed Carlo's graduation ceremony.
i really wish those more ephemeral, calm sounds that play periodically in the background were more present, they add such a cool atmosphere to the theme
I feel bad for gepetto, he grieves his son and the time he has lost, it is sad that it couldn't go any differently, but altealst in the end he must have understood that he actually got his son back, he only realized it to late
After so many hours of sweat and blood i can finally said i beat this boss 😭. First phase was easy but the second omg. I play so many hours trying to beat him i got very good at parrying. Thank you nameless puppet.
The Nameless was the most disgusting creature through this whole masterpiece. Such a horrible design, creepy OST and the story behind him... He is as horrofic as Pyramid Head himself.
This boss is Orphan of Kos on absolute crack❤ i loved it so much! The music is just too perfect. I loved Orphan of Kos so much! I don't know why this boss reminded me of Orphan of Kos but it was awesome
Just gonna point out that Geppetto barely spent any time with Carlo while he was alive. When Carlo died, he wasn’t in pain because he thought Carlo’s death was unjust No, he wanted to bring Carlo back from death only because he thought he hadn’t raised him properly and was going to make up for it. He started a massacre because he made a mistake. Not to help Carlo but only to better his own narcissism.
@@maniacalmurderer4123 I remember during the fight with the nameless puppet, he said that he regrets that he didn't read Carlo his favourite book. That implies that he regrets that he didn't spend enough time with him as a father and only realized his great mistake after his son was gone, which is a very human thing to do: "To regret ones own actions, after thex have lost something and can not make up for it anymore". So i don't think that it is true that gepetto only wanted his son back because he wanted to control him, but because he understodd the mistake he made. Of course masacaring the city of krat because of that is wrong, but he is in fact a father that is mourning his son death
It seems to be the first track in a major key I've ever heard in soulslikes. Although I find this game rather mediocre and imitative (including the OST - c'mon, the hub theme is literally Schindler's List + Barber's Adagio) - this dramatic and tense A-major surprised me. Also, pretty good combination of sound textures
Seems someone has a bad view of it. This soundtrack was my favorite out of any souls like. Felt the most lively to me. The songs and tracks in this game are insanely good.
Lies of P OST (Records) Playlist: ua-cam.com/play/PLxfJZ3cTz86r-GMISqI5eXh_M-XCua_uW.html
Lies of P OST (Boss Theme) Playlist: ua-cam.com/play/PLxfJZ3cTz86o6ywmE9L1JBED-2JonVbcp.html
I never knew how horrific this fight was until I realized:
1.) Romeo warned us about Geppetto
2.) Simon Manus warned us about Geppetto
3.) this man is using HIS OWN SON’s BODY FOR THE FINAL BOSS
You know shit is gonna be crazy when the mad man, Simon Manus, is afraid of him.
You forgot to add that:
4. A huge portion of ergo that was flowing into Simon and Sophia went into the nameless puppet, super-charging it with freshly slaughtered Krat citizens for god knows how long.
5. This makes the nameless puppet truly your greatest adversary. While you learned the nature of humanity and ergo on your epic adventure, that puppet was force-fed the same, if not more, amount of thought; only that thought is not of the survivors in Krat, but the "All puppet must die"s, the "I don't want to die"s, the most intense, corrupt form of human thought.
6. The nameless puppet likely became sentient in front of you, when you sliced his skull open. He's basically your younger brother if that's what happened. Look at how he moves in phase 2 and you'll understand. He is everything that you've learned not to be; angry, hateful and very, very afraid. He's the last, and the greatest monster created by the frenzy.
You gotta reach the "Bad" ending. SPOILERS!!
In the bad ending, Gepetto kills his former student, Eugenie, and his friend, Vegnini, and replaces them with PUPPETS
@@Jayco2855 Yeah I liked that ending, too. Notice how the evil Carlo was smiling at the death of everyone that isn't Geppetto. I took that as he finally felt safe after all of his torment, like a scared animal with very, very big fangs; which, while twisted af, is the exact conclusion Geppetto wanted - now no one can even come close to hurting his new son. If they allow you to progress the game as evil Carlo, I'd look forward to the day when he starts to see his human father as a threat.
@@user-gw7sk5iv2n technically, the puppet is P´s big brother.
“It always comes down to the puppet’s master to clean up after these sorts of messes. Tonight, Gepetto joins the stage…”
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🎶MASTER! MASTER!🎶
🎶MASTER OF PUPPETS, I'M PULLING YOUR STRINGS!🎶
🎶TWISTING YOUR MIND AND SMASHING YOUR DREAMS!🎶
🎶BLINDED BY ME YOU CAN'T SEE A THING!🎶
🎶JUST CALL MY NAME 'CAUSE I'LL HEAR YOU SCREAM!🎶
🎶MASTER!🎶
🎶MASTER!🎶
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"Put these foolish ambitions to rest, son." - Geppeto probably
Shit it's the same voice actor too
@@7792thereaper that is the joke
And in the 2 Phase Geppeto: Well.... That are some passing skills
@@shadoweye6887 Reality: How DARE you! You're just a puppet!
@@chadderbug7587 I know it's just what magrit says if you punch him low
This boss was terrifying to me... it really showed how much of a monster geppetto became due to his grief and narcissism
He wasn’t very good before either, he was neglectful of Carlo and caused the deaths of hundreds just so he could harvest ergo en masse, all so he could make it up to his son, Geppetto is probably just as bad as Simon Manus
@@crypt1k755
Agreed, another fact being he was rarely associated with Carlo before his death. Geppetto dedicated all of his effort to his work. Barely spent any time with his son, Romeo was his only true ally besides his mother who passed. When Carlo died to the petrification disease, rather than accept his own guilt and move on, decided to plot an entire massacre in Krat to revive him.
He did not wish to bring back Carlo because he thought his death was unjust, no… he was bringing him back so he could make up for lost time and raise him as an obedient child.
Unimaginably f*cked up
@@maniacalmurderer4123 I honestly think Geppetto is more evil than Simon, at least Simon had intentions of bettering humanity in his own evil way, Geppetto is just a selfish and manipulative monster that happily lies and blames others to further his own agenda
(Also he apparently had the arm of god up until he was kidnapped by the stalkers, he was probably secretly an alchemist)
@@crypt1k755The game mentions three alchemist brothers and it elludes Simon and Geppetto knew eachother and worked with eachother for a long time.
@@crypt1k755 To be fair if you get the true ending he does seem to finally change when he sees Carlo crying, even apologizing in his dying breath. Doesn't excuse or undo what he did of course but it shows he wasn't completely heartless, It was unfortunately just too little too late.
It’s so crazy that Romeo warned us that this was gunna happen during the play. At first I had interpreted the play as “oh Gepetto must’ve put his sons heart into a puppet or somethin to save him” then when I got this fight after hearing Romeo’s message, I realized that he knew what was GOING to happen…
First time i saw Geppetto I had my doubt about him, I felt something was weird. But damn, thanks for clarifying this moment at the play cause I completly forgotted about it and remember that it triggered something that I couldn't understand but felt very wrong too.
@@tru3boche was offering to pinocchio the whole game. All of the bosses up to Romeo (except archbishop) are messengers of Romeo but you cant understand them until NG+. They all tell Romeo to join forced with him.
@@stacyOyosee i did too then i was questioning mad donkey, then got to romeo and had a feeling he was trying to show me something? Then after beating him and beating the game, my stupid ass gave my heart to him and got the bad ending, worst part is seeing my girl eugene dead and my response was.
"BABYGIRL NOOO OLDMAN NOW ITS PERSONAL, mad donkey was right and romeo!!!" Had to speed run the game and got the good ending, i already know what the 3rd ending is and not doin a 3rd time.
@@katunu6030 It's so tragic how pretty much none of the puppets you encounter actually want to fight you, but the Grand Covenant forced them all to, It's even implied Romeo thougth that they wouldn't be forced to since you are supposed to be a puppet, but Gepetto made sure they attacked even those with an awakened ego
The distorted piano descending into the choir is one of the sickest things I’ve ever heard.
It's even creepier knowing that this puppet more than likely made from his son, Carlo's corpse.
P - Puppet with human mind
Carlo - Human with puppet mind
@@Bos_Meong The heart vs the mind
The fact that a literal abomination was the boss before this one and the Nameless Puppet is even more terrifying speaks volumes
Of course it's a corpse made to dance the tune of a depressed old man.
Weird that it’s called a puppet then
@@mooganify It is a puppet, but a very primitive one, and also an abomination since it uses a rotting corpse as a frame instead of a metal casing like the normal puppets
@@filipporapetti9354the rotting corpse is Carlo's corpse.
@@excalibur2596 Yeah, Geppetto's got a lot of issues
It’s scary to think that this thing was only able to feel hatred. It probably hated everything. Hated being alive, hated being controlled to fight, hated Pinocchio, and hated Gepetto. The 2nd phase where it acted on its own, you can see the wrath and hatred it had. Super excited to see what they do for the sequel. We gonna be playing the Tin Man.
My theory is that we are playing as Dorothy in the sequel, and that the Tin Man is none other than Pinocchio, now an allied NPC.
@@nicholasjackl7531 They could play a fast one and have the Barren Swamp puppet be the tin man
@@mausebas Ohh, that’s actually not a bad theory. He is a bit more fitting for the role. Pinocchio’s a bit overqualified for NPC delegation.
@@nicholasjackl7531 they might keep it ambiguous and somewhere in the story he talks to you about his first friend
How this game managed to make *Geppetto* a compelling and terrifying villain, will never not blow my mind. A character who is the quintessential embodiment of “Grief can turn anyone into a monster”.
We all probably saw it coming. Foreshadowed by Venigni’s discoveries, warnings from adversaries, and, of course, Geppetto’s own off-putting behavior. We all could tell something was deeply wrong with Geppetto… but only at the very end does he show his true colors, how rotten he is behind the warm facade.
This theme doesn’t just reflect the Puppet’s mad state, but that of its puppeteer. It’s just as much Geppetto’s theme as it is the Nameless Puppet’s.
Did you see it coming? Kinda wish the game didn’t make it so obvious
Romeo or the king of puppets also told that he was bad
Something to note, which is perhaps scary to think about, is that no one is really sure if this Nameless Puppet has an Ego or not. The Ergo it drops though, and if anyone hasn't read it, does mention that if it was capable of feeling anything, it was one thing. And one thing alone...
Hatred.
That Grab attack it does when you're caught in it sure does seem to affirm this fact. It Hates you. Perhaps it hates even Geppetto. And the Song perfectly hammers home that it will make sure you die. Your Heart included...
It hates being alive, it hates that Geppetto is using them for something twisted, it hates P for being Geppetto’s true puppet, it hates that it has to exist because of P, it hates that P has a soul and it does not, it hates what it is, it hates everything.
At the end of the day, that hate was the thing that killed it and Geppetto. Makes you wonder where it learned that. Geppetto and his years of obsession would’ve done the trick. They both hate what fate has ensured for them. In Geppetto’s own way he projected that feeling of being unable to act outside of fate on the puppets of Krat being unable to act outside of his control.
If anything, that puppet was the most honest one we’ve ever met. Once it was released from Geppetto’s control, it let out its true emotions.
Arlecchino was another puppet that only felt hatred towards humanity, but the only difference was his ego awoke. I'm curious if maybe the innocence of Carlo was passed on to Pinocchio, and the hatred and regret/negative emotions towards his father were somehow retained in Carlo's actual body.
This is truly the first soulsborne type boss to give me the feeling of dread and uncertainty. 10/10 would fight again.
This music empathizes everything Pinocchio must be feeling
To meet this horrifying creation right after being betrayed by the one you call family. Then be told by said family that you were merely an asset, a conduit, a tool. Then once you refuse to hand over everything that makes you an individual, that gives you meaning, are forced to face the horrifying monstrosity wielding comically large scissors. A monster that needs your soul to truly come to life.
It is not just the disfigurement of the puppets appearance that scares you, it’s the meaning behind it’s existence. The thought of its purpose is what truly makes you afraid. That thought combined with the emotional betrayal gives this puppet an overwhelming aura, hence the musics intensity. Not to mention it’s quite literally the corpse of Geppetto’s son reanimated 💀
*It’s interesting if you think about it. It is not the puppet that is scary, it’s the role that it is forced to play.*
Edit: just did the fight and found something interesting. There is a rare piece of unwritten dialouge for the Nameless Puppet mid-fight
It will mumble the words
*“…Kill …me …kill …me”*
You actually make a good point with the Puppet's dialogue because in the Rise of P ending, the Nameless Puppet actively tries to destroy P's heart which would truly bring it to life.
It *doesn't* want to be alive.
Reading this while listening gave me goosbumps i love it
What you say about wanting us to kill him may make sense, because I think that when we enter the second phase, the blue strings he had are cut, so I think that's when Geppetto lost control of the Puppet and it becomes even more savage. because now, without anyone controlling it, it wants to directly destroy us, destroy us completely. Maybe that dialogue you say appears when he has very little life left, implying that since he sees that he is losing he wants us to kill him, even so a bit of him wants to live and that is why he does not give up in the end and makes a final move. to finish us off, giving rise to Geppeto sacrificing himself and in a certain way being perplexed and scared because he is his father after all.
The nameless puppet isn't meant to become the new body for Carlo, its a special puppet Geppetto made that excels in combat. Per the amulet description it says 'this puppet was cores and the one emotion it could feel was hatred'.
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Then why would it be in a box that supposedly Geppetto was going to use the contents of to make you a real human?
Not to mention it is Geppetto’s sons corpse. I imagine he planned to use it as a base.
Carlo’s memories and Carlos’s body combined with a massive amount of ergo and boom, you have a very f*cked up Carlo
Which is interesting if you think about it.
This fight would've hit even harder if arlecchino's quotes echoed during it with the other memories, to show the internal conflict of P during the battle
Less is more sometimes.
I agree
0:54 the dissonant high pitched piano always give me goosebumps. Such a great song for great and terrifying final boss.
This boss fight was PERFECT. Great final test, amazing OST, great thematic conflicts.... That's everything you ever want in a final bossfight
It's a perfect final boss. Right after Simon, a human who became close to a god, you finish the game not fighting another giant but fighting the other side of "Carlo".
You're Carlo's soul residing in a puppet. *It* is Carlo's body infused with insane amount of Ergo, a facade of life, broken souls trapped in a corpse, driven insane by rage. Despite the fact that it's human flesh it's a true monster whereas we, in the body of the puppet, are the real human.
I seriously goddamned loved this game so damn much I never thought it was gonna be this good.
Edit - I also like to think it was Sophia who plucked Carlo's soul from the ocean of Ergo and sent it to the puppet's body. Geppetto longingly made a puppet in the perfect image of his boy after the abomination he accidentally created, but he couldn't give it life. Sophia sent the "real boy soul" just like the blue fairy from the real story.
He's this game's Orphan. Crazy at first but manageable. Second phase goes apeshit on you and if you don't know what he's gonna do he'll destroy you in seconds.
Nah, Orphan is way way harder.
@@p.istvan8744 couple things. While that may be the case, the point was that Orphan was the most similar thing I could think of. And as someone who has beaten the Orphan about 22-23 times (yes I'm a hopeless Bloodborne veteran) I can tell you that almost everything he does is dodgeable you just need to master his moveset. He's hard. No doubt. But doable once you learn his moveset. I'd also like to add that while at first I thought Lies was easier than Bloodborne, after several playthroughs I've realized that it's just different as the skill set to prosper in the game is just different
I share the same opinion as you, but many ardent blood fans do not accept the comparison with their beloved game
@@fullknight4750 it's surprising really. Bloodborne veteran here. Beat the game 25 times and the Orphan almost as many. I see a proportional similarity
Orphan may be harder, but Nameless Puppet is scarier.
This music is literally anxiety incarnate. Absolutely beautifully well made.
0:56 I love how we hear an extremely distorted piano right before the choir kicks in. If a puppet’s ability to play a piano gets better as their humanity increases, then The Nameless Puppet’s humanity is probably the lowest out of all of the puppets that Pinocchio encounters in the game.
I've seen ppl and friends mention the note/text regarding puppets' ability at playing the piano, but I've never found it in-game myself, and I'm already in NG+. Google doesn't seem to help. Could you please tell me where to find it? Thanks!
@@El_FzEq it’s one of the loading screen tips; you can only see it if you’re loading from one area to another, or have died in-game
@@proctorritter5176 Thanks! Will try to keep an eye on loading screens.
i think i know why in phase 2 it goes berserk. imagine someone failing to save you, so instead they create a clone of you, leaving you behind as this disfigured mess without even your own memories left, nor a name to call your own.
Gepetto abandoned the nameless puppet because it was too unstable, not because he couldn't save it
@@tomekk.1889 and he placed Carlo's ergo, effectively his soul, into another puppet, who only awakened thanks to Sophia. On one scale, there's his real son, his conscious, and his soul; on another - his disfigured courpse, powered by a multitude of agonizing psyches.
"No father wants to resort to the lash, but there is no other way."
"I knew you'd gone astray, you troublesome little puppet!"
"If only I had spent more time with you…if only I had read you your favourite book; father to son..."
"How dare you?! You're just a puppet! Nothing more!!"
"After I lost you, my life was full of nothing but regret..."
Every time I hear this, I keep thinking: "Bro this ain't no lash..this is an army of drunk dads''
I can fully agree with a good majority of the comments here.
In a game filled with Ergo-fueled monstrosities, this thing just felt... wrong.
It's crazy to think the entire premise of the story is about a man that kills every single human to absorb all of their soul,
just so he can revive his dead son.... and puppetizing the remains that has no free will and will always be a "good boy"
Geppeto is one of the most disturbingly insane villain of all time
Pure terror and pain. Such a unique final boss theme I love it
"Son you should put those foolish ambitions to rest!"
This gives strong orphan of kos vibes
I got more of a "Soul Of Cinder" vibe with the fact his a soulless being who resembles the player character
@@YEY0806 it was the music and the overall lanky body that made me think of orphan
The music reminds me more of amygdala or moon presents
@@mwwq1 I was thinking of second phase orphan, but I see moon presence
His attacks reminded me instantly to Lady Maria from Bloodborne…
Obsessed with the warped Krat Hotel motif at 0:23, fits the theme of something trying to be human that doesn’t quite understand how
His eyes and mouth are sewn shut. What did Geppetto *do* to him?
God this boss sure was something else, this one fight took me quite awhile to win. I loved this fight! It was so much fun. I loved the arena, the music, the bosses moveset, everything. It was the perfect way to end the game. It really shows how insane Geppetto is, and how foolish it was for him to get his dead son back alive. He was an awful egotistic father that only cared about himself. Truly a great final boss i did not even carre that i died like how many times. It was such amazing fight.
This mfka highlighted how insane and unhinged geppetto was.
It even says that the one thing the Nameless puppet could feel was hatred.
Might sound weird but i love how after starting the second phase by freeing him of his strings. Hes not sorrowfull of the sins gepetto made him commit, not wanting to right his wrongs
Hes just fucking pissed off
This game didn’t have any right being this damn good. Just beat it last night and the 3 final bosses in the tower are amazing.
*“The puppet itself is not intimidating, but the role it is forced to play is what truly makes you shiver”*
-me, the typical lore addict
Ahh, sweet child of Kos, returned to the ocean...
A bottomless curse, a bottomless sea.
Accepting of all that there is, and can be.
Mad Donkey was right all along.
Come to me my son
How dare you!? You are just a puppet, nothing more!
This song hits harder when you hear everyone's dialogue on the second phase as like your about to die and all you can hear is your friends voices for one last time, truly one of the best bosses of the game, and the most terrifying of them all
This man really walked away without looking back. Damn.
While most of the other boss ost are loud, booming and usually overzealous with energy , this ost on the other hand is disturbing. Not only does it symbolise the abusive nature of gepetto and his eventual fall to sorrow, it also shows that nameless puppet is no ordinary puppet gone rogue and evil. Nameless puppet has only resentment and the thirst to kill with no real ulterior motive. This renders the boss to be quite unsettling, reminds me of the time I felt when unlocking the trinity key housing king of riddles the first time.
Ah, I see the trope "Local old man ruins everything" still continues in video games, especially on the streets of London, Paris, and our lovely little harlet Birmingham
Geppetto is stone cold in this game.
He is a griecing father, who insane because of said grief
0:28 the kick off there with the string was sick
Thanks, i was waiting for this one. The feeling of imminent end and the dread that makes P relieves his memories and dialogues... It is superb.
This banger is one of my favorite tracks among souls / souls-like ost's.
Love it!
This is one of the few bosses that has made me feel very uncomfortable. We NEED more game designs like this! Old school culmination of your heartfelt journey. Not necessarily a gigantic big bad boss, but something emotionally charged, a real threat. What an excellent game. Love every moment of it. The art, the gameplay, and of course the story.
Damn this theme is so chaotic and intimidating! certainly something that i liked while fighting the boss
The song is scary and exasperating at the same time. It generates anxiety and discomfort. It's just perfect for this last dance in the game. 🔥
Run
this sounds more like a chase scene in a thriller/horror movie
Not only is this a amazing final boss with a incredible eerie and intense OST but the implications of the Nameless Puppet are kinda insane
So we know Geppettos son Carlo died at a young age due to some kind of sickness but when we are fighting the Namless Puppet he isn’t really a puppet… He has skin and seems to be a body with tubes coming out of it so what we are made to believe is that Geppetto somehow artificially grew up Carlos dead body (because remember Carlo died as a kid) and this makes sense because this is the first ever puppet created by Geppetto who else’s body would Geppetto have used? It only makes sense if it’s Carlo The nameless puppets weapon is literally called Proof of Humanity (which ofc is a lie) also his nameless puppet rises out of the box Carlos hand came out of in the other ending from the King of Puppets stage performance we also know Geppetto took Carlos heart (and I’m assuming his memories) into P so where did the rest of Carlos body go? To the Nameless puppet nameless because the real Carlo is within P and this is just a mindless puppet only set on killing P
All signs point to Namless Puppet being Carlos corpse and that’s just crazy and disturbing
Carlo didn't die as a kid, he at least must have been 20+
In one of the flashback audio scenes, Romeo mentions that Geppetto missed Carlo's graduation ceremony.
The bell ringing in the background really brings it all together. Gives me a chill hearing it.
HOW DARE YOU , YOURE JUST A PUPPET !!! Nothing more
OMG THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR POSTING THIS SOUNDTRACK
Seeing the Nameless Puppet rising from the box in sync with the chanting is pretty sick ngl.
When you finally slay this boss down there's no other puppet that can stop you.
i really wish those more ephemeral, calm sounds that play periodically in the background were more present, they add such a cool atmosphere to the theme
I think this theme is awesome - easily my favorite boss OST Lies of P
"HoW dArE yOu!"
Foul puppet
"How dare you! You're just a puppet! Nothing more!!"
I feel bad for gepetto, he grieves his son and the time he has lost, it is sad that it couldn't go any differently, but altealst in the end he must have understood that he actually got his son back, he only realized it to late
After so many hours of sweat and blood i can finally said i beat this boss 😭. First phase was easy but the second omg. I play so many hours trying to beat him i got very good at parrying. Thank you nameless puppet.
This thing is just...
*Wrong.*
"you can become a real human come to me my son"
The fact this puppet managed to defeat P is insane
and i'm all kinds of 'BRING IT' when fighting da legit final boss
Listening to this track makes me uncomfortable
It is unknown if this puppet had an awakened ego.
If there were one emotion it could feel, it would be hatred.
This theme probably scares/creeps me out more than any of the scary boss themes in the Soulsborne games.
Hats off to the Lies of P dev team!
Nameless chaos, the only track in the game where the orchestra's strings sound all over the place
So Gepettos creations are more powerful than God in this world damn
dudududu-dudududu-dudududu is too good
It's funny that I know exactly what part you're talking about lol.
The Nameless was the most disgusting creature through this whole masterpiece. Such a horrible design, creepy OST and the story behind him... He is as horrofic as Pyramid Head himself.
One of the best boss figths ever!
This song gives me the same kind of vibes that the Blood Starved Beast theme did in Bloodborne
Finally dawg
We need the script for phase 2 of this boss fight music in this vid cause it made wat pinocchio was fighting for even more impact full 🗡👑🛡
This boss is Orphan of Kos on absolute crack❤ i loved it so much! The music is just too perfect. I loved Orphan of Kos so much! I don't know why this boss reminded me of Orphan of Kos but it was awesome
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Its funny how much this boss reminds me of x-men origins Deadpool
just a dad that wanted his son back ❤
Exactly
Just gonna point out that Geppetto barely spent any time with Carlo while he was alive. When Carlo died, he wasn’t in pain because he thought Carlo’s death was unjust
No, he wanted to bring Carlo back from death only because he thought he hadn’t raised him properly and was going to make up for it.
He started a massacre because he made a mistake. Not to help Carlo but only to better his own narcissism.
@@maniacalmurderer4123 I remember during the fight with the nameless puppet, he said that he regrets that he didn't read Carlo his favourite book. That implies that he regrets that he didn't spend enough time with him as a father and only realized his great mistake after his son was gone, which is a very human thing to do: "To regret ones own actions, after thex have lost something and can not make up for it anymore". So i don't think that it is true that gepetto only wanted his son back because he wanted to control him, but because he understodd the mistake he made. Of course masacaring the city of krat because of that is wrong, but he is in fact a father that is mourning his son death
@@ashuranero5721And right after reviving Carlo he leaves again, showing he hasn't changed and is still an absentee father.
There is no motive to feel bad for Geppetto in my opinion.
Carlo wanted to become the best stalker... He kinda did after all 😅
Was he a good father? 🤣
Not at all.💔
Romeo was the true family that Carlo has ever accepted.❤️🩹
It sounds like Norse Voices preparing a ritual, 😆👌🏻
eu me lembro das músicas do filme o senhor dos anéis
Beat this thing on my first try and holy hell, this shit was hard!!!
It seems to be the first track in a major key I've ever heard in soulslikes.
Although I find this game rather mediocre and imitative (including the OST - c'mon, the hub theme is literally Schindler's List + Barber's Adagio) - this dramatic and tense A-major surprised me. Also, pretty good combination of sound textures
It’s better than bb and the soundtrack was amazing
Seems someone has a bad view of it. This soundtrack was my favorite out of any souls like. Felt the most lively to me. The songs and tracks in this game are insanely good.
@@andrewramirez3998😂😂😂 never
@@AntiSocialismo50 yeah bb mid tbh
@@andrewramirez3998 ok buddy. It is. Maybe except this ost, i cant remember almost any ost from lies of p lol
Wtf sassori bro