Gross vehicle weight rating is the max loaded amount of weight the vehicle is able to operate with, including passengers, fluids, cargo, etc. That doesn't mean the 03 weighs less than the newer ones, it might just mean it can carry less. Also, that gauge is for oil pressure, not oil level. Very useful gauge to have. Other than that, great video, thanks for posting
That steel wheel design on that 2003 you have here is actually the 2nd wheel design for the 2nd gen P71 Vics. The 1st design (1998-2002) had smaller squared off vent holes and there were more of them, they also had a much more concave look to them. As far as I know, only the 2003-2005 16 inch steel wheels were recalled for cracking issues. In 2006 they moved on to the 17 inch wheel design that remained until 2011/2012.
I got a 03 intersepter and I love it ! Easy to work on and no it's not slow! If you gotta drive at 140 mph in u're city to get coffee I'm sure a 03 is just fine. Geez 🤨
Just a precaution for P71's. A P71 was towed into my shop today on a rollback, missing the right rear wheel.. It rusted at the outer axle where the rotor is on the hub assembly.. The entire wheel snapped off with the rotor and hub attached was sitting on the rollback bed.. Stay safe everyone..
yeah.. the 03 is weird. it has a lot of crossover year issues. I have a canadian model so at least everything is one standardization... even if it is metric. It really helps to think of this as a Mustang GT Crew Cab. before they switched to 3v 4.6l's also, when i was taking the interior apart, my PI actually has the door module for keyless entry. even though it has no remote. and it's all ford branded. I can't find the signal it responds to, so maybe its just a non-functional brick, but it is powered and gets warm.
#1, the wheels. 16" and 17" wheels really don't matter. The overall tire diameter is very close. In my experience, the speedometer roll out is less than 1mph at 70mph between the two. Second, the 11 window wheels that you show here are NOT the ones that had the issue with the leaking due to improper welds, that would have been the 7 window variants and they were dropped in production during 2003. #2, the engine is 239 HP not 229, and torque is 287 lb ft, not 272. You may have gotten these numbers from an LX. Power is up from 235 in 2001-2002. 2004+ got a larger MAF and airbox and the tuning that went with it, giving that extra 11HP and 10 lb ft torque. RKE was not built into a police interceptor until 2008. Adjustable pedals were an option on the 2003. They were not standard until 2009.
06+ got 17" wheels and ur 03 has 239hp the only change in 04 to make a reading at the 250 horsepower is the addition of the 80mm maf sensor what you can add to your 03 but you'll have to get a tune for that anyway so you might as well just do that and get a Marty tune
@@poopboxsquad I had a 1999 White Ford Crown Victoria P71 and a 2001 model Ford Crown Victoria P71, I drove the 99 model for 4 years and I sold it March 2020 to a coworker for $500, but I still have my 2001 model, it's also white in color, they're very good cars😊😊👍👍
The oil gauge isn't that useful. Not sure what years it is, but most only have a one/off signal for that oil pressure. If its anything above like 5PSI, the gauge reads normal. If it drops below 5PSI, then it goes to 0. Would be nice to have a real gauge that could show variations.
This paint condition you have is very normal in white crown Victorias that’s why I prefer other colors but all you need is sand down the car and get it repainted
You're talking about the Police model. I have a 2003 CV LX 'civilian' model, with full remote control of everything on the steering wheel, electronic HVAC, adjustable pedals, etc. All of those things were options on the Police versions....if they wanted to pay for them. You have civilian tires on that car. The police model had 235 60 16 tires.
i noticed with my 2006 that with the new redesigned gauge cluster with the digital display and tachometer, there is no cruise control light bulb, but 2007 they put it back. so if you have cruise control in an 06 there is no light on the cluster i guess.
The light is there and fully functional, you just need to put a bulb in, in 2007 they started putting the bulb in regardless if you had cruise control or not,
Quickest way to tell if your alternator is up graded is the pulley looks different and is bigger it's a decouple clutch to stop the belt chirp the older ones did and sound pretty good spinning down as well. Love these old brutes. I'm not a ford fan but the crown vic and the 2v modular 4.6 is the most reliable cop car out there except mabey the late 90s lt1 9c1 caprices both fantastic cars
Obviously the Canadian police beat them to death like their American counterparts. Love yr channel. I have 01 CV Sport and 04 Marauder. If I buy another Vic I'd go with 06 and above and another Sport if I can find one. 03 Ford changed to rack and pinion and changed suspension. Tach came in 06. Sport came with 235 55 17 thru out production. According to my dealer, I ordered the last Sport produced in the 01 production year. Sports made 01 to 08. Enjoy yr channel hope u will do story on yr CV when u have it painted and repaired.
@@lamarwhigham7105 look we had a 2011 that came with 16 inch wheels police departments do not care if the car has the wrong wheels they all fit the same
I like the flat faced steel wheels on this car, I have a 2001 model Crown Victoria P71 and it's got the deep dish(concave) steel wheels with dog bowl center caps, it's also white in color😊😊👍👍
You might have pedal controls and traction control pry back that plastic piece were it would be if there are connections get your self panel from later model plug in connections and bam you now have those features Ford just put cover on a lot of them instead of giving you buttons
@@kenm2709 I think it depends on if your vehicle is prewired for them, I havent actually tried it, but mine does have all the wires going to a blank panel.
So the wheels you have are actually not the ones that crack you've got the recall equipped one so thats wrong, the 06s were the first year for 17 inch, and its not fair comparing an 03 which was the upgrade from the 98-02 models which were still similar to an aero and Canada just sucks because 03s here in America have cruise regularly equipped and we get to actually go and see our cars and they were optioned with foot pedal adjustment as well you just bought a low optioned one but the 03 years worst facts is they were known to have rough idle from factory as well as having a gas tank set up that would sometimes explode in a rear end collision which lead to one of the reasons for dupont creating the trunk pack but this is coming from an 03 owner and wishing I had a 98-02 oh and gotta remember theyre police cars and keyless entry shouldn't be a downfall or an inconvenience it actually shouldn't even be a thought
Im picking up a 03 on Tuesday got it for a deal because a deer wanted to ride shot gun lol, luckily its a silver paint job, white fords always lose there paint
I test drove a 2003 LX Sport once, but the seller wouldn't negotiate. The 2003's are also infamous for rear axle wheel bearing failure. I went on to win a white 2006 P71 at an auction. It was easier and cheaper to find a $50 donor hood for it at the junkyard than repaint it. These cop cars all weight just over 4000 pounds empty.
Unfortunately, the flaking 'base-coat', especially the 'white' color, thru-out the `90 & 2000's is also apparent on GM vehicles and other colors on foreign vehicles, too.
Never buy an 03 Crown Vic. Most of them are unreliable pieces of junk, some are good but about 85% are money pits. Of all CVPI years, the 03s are the most problematic, they have so many mechanical issues for some reason, it’s why you don’t see much of them on the road anymore. They’re also dangerous too, an officer in my hometown was killed by the gas tank issue that plagues 03 CVPIs, John Wheeler, SAPD
Man only difference between years is throttle body, pcm tuning, and rear gears..... quick junkyard trip and u can get more power cheap and easy... all p71s here dont have the keyless entry.... 03-04 are the best 2 years to get because of the changes they made to the valve body in transmission on 05-up caused trans failures ....
2003 heads are more prone to blowing spark plug due to half threads. This was changed in 2004. Also the axle is reputed to be made of softer metal which wore too fast. First year teething problems for sure.. Get an 04.
@@joshcoleman2968 Threads are part of the heads so you would have to change the heads to '04 or newer. I wouldn't worry too much. Be sure the plugs are tightened to spec and you should be fine.
@@joshcoleman2968 Good news is that parts are plentiful and cheap. '03 can be updated as needed. When and if you have a motor problem, getting a full thread motor is a must.
Yeah I been definitely looking into engines and transmissions so I can have them at bad times I think long as I keep it service and. Check fluids regularly and spark plugs I should be okay seem like the main problems I could have gotten 05 but dude sold it so I settle for the 03 an grateful the school took care of it
I like to know what my vehicles weigh so hit the truck scales for a rough idea. No way that car weighs 5000lbs unless it’s bullet proof. My marauder is 4400lbs with me in it.
Also the 04 has the exact same throttle body but you can add a 70 mm throttle body off a 5.4 F250 or E series van
Gross vehicle weight rating is the max loaded amount of weight the vehicle is able to operate with, including passengers, fluids, cargo, etc. That doesn't mean the 03 weighs less than the newer ones, it might just mean it can carry less.
Also, that gauge is for oil pressure, not oil level. Very useful gauge to have.
Other than that, great video, thanks for posting
Also for the keyless entry you can add the module for the driver side door and programmer key fob and it will work
Police harness does not have trunk release. Very ease to tap into the trunk release button in the door to enable remote trunk release.
2:59 now you have 5 cats in your crown vic
Just bought an 03 LX Sport with 120,000 miles. I'm told it's rare, floor shifter, ATC and Matador Red, which was only offered for 2 years
That steel wheel design on that 2003 you have here is actually the 2nd wheel design for the 2nd gen P71 Vics. The 1st design (1998-2002) had smaller squared off vent holes and there were more of them, they also had a much more concave look to them. As far as I know, only the 2003-2005 16 inch steel wheels were recalled for cracking issues. In 2006 they moved on to the 17 inch wheel design that remained until 2011/2012.
Also it’s easier to make the interior light work with the doors than a newer one
I got a 03 intersepter and I love it ! Easy to work on and no it's not slow! If you gotta drive at 140 mph in u're city to get coffee I'm sure a 03 is just fine. Geez 🤨
Tractions control button on 03 amazing
@@kdg_stnank1339 what’s so special about it
Yea I have 2 of them it’s so fun
More water than paint that day at Ford, especially when this vehicle came down the line.
Just a precaution for P71's.
A P71 was towed into my shop today on a rollback, missing the right rear wheel..
It rusted at the outer axle where the rotor is on the hub assembly.. The entire wheel snapped off with the rotor and hub attached was sitting on the rollback bed..
Stay safe everyone..
I have a 03 Merc and it has all the stuff u mentioned that doesn't come with the crown vic I'm also Canadian would love to meet up with u one day
Just watched a video of an '03 that has surpassed 1 million miles.
yeah.. the 03 is weird. it has a lot of crossover year issues. I have a canadian model so at least everything is one standardization... even if it is metric.
It really helps to think of this as a Mustang GT Crew Cab. before they switched to 3v 4.6l's
also, when i was taking the interior apart, my PI actually has the door module for keyless entry. even though it has no remote. and it's all ford branded. I can't find the signal it responds to, so maybe its just a non-functional brick, but it is powered and gets warm.
I'm looking for a transmission 3w7pca are there any alternatives . If this one isn't available
This is the second generation wheels 03-05 17s are 06+ the first generation is 98-02
I have an 04 and an 05. Both equipped with cruise control
#1, the wheels. 16" and 17" wheels really don't matter. The overall tire diameter is very close. In my experience, the speedometer roll out is less than 1mph at 70mph between the two. Second, the 11 window wheels that you show here are NOT the ones that had the issue with the leaking due to improper welds, that would have been the 7 window variants and they were dropped in production during 2003. #2, the engine is 239 HP not 229, and torque is 287 lb ft, not 272. You may have gotten these numbers from an LX. Power is up from 235 in 2001-2002. 2004+ got a larger MAF and airbox and the tuning that went with it, giving that extra 11HP and 10 lb ft torque. RKE was not built into a police interceptor until 2008. Adjustable pedals were an option on the 2003. They were not standard until 2009.
I’m not trying to be rude but there actually 12 window wheels
@@scabbythecrownvic On the 17 inch steelies. The 16s are either 7 or 11.
@@silicon212 I meant to say on the 16 inch wheels they have 12 holes the 17 inch wheels have 10 holes
@@scabbythecrownvic My 1999 P71 has 16 window steel wheels. 16 inch.
@@Kuson2 I’ve never seen the 1998 to 2002 wheels
06+ got 17" wheels and ur 03 has 239hp the only change in 04 to make a reading at the 250 horsepower is the addition of the 80mm maf sensor what you can add to your 03 but you'll have to get a tune for that anyway so you might as well just do that and get a Marty tune
The 03 got the cable instead of the computer on the throttle body so no tune is needed
@@dumbmonk8047 yes but a marty tune helps
2003 is the best year, in my opinion. Last year for actual cable to throttle body, not "drive by wire". My cat also agrees!
2004 is last year of cable to throttle body
Nice video ,cheers from Norway ,i own a 1999 P71 ,runs Great
I got a 99 as well already getting it lowered and have wheels for it
@@poopboxsquad I had a 1999 White Ford Crown Victoria P71 and a 2001 model Ford Crown Victoria P71, I drove the 99 model for 4 years and I sold it March 2020 to a coworker for $500, but I still have my 2001 model, it's also white in color, they're very good cars😊😊👍👍
That's oil pressure gauge not level
4:20 is that part of the a&w family?
The oil gauge isn't that useful. Not sure what years it is, but most only have a one/off signal for that oil pressure. If its anything above like 5PSI, the gauge reads normal. If it drops below 5PSI, then it goes to 0. Would be nice to have a real gauge that could show variations.
This paint condition you have is very normal in white crown Victorias that’s why I prefer other colors but all you need is sand down the car and get it repainted
You're talking about the Police model. I have a 2003 CV LX 'civilian' model, with full remote control of everything on the steering wheel, electronic HVAC, adjustable pedals, etc. All of those things were options on the Police versions....if they wanted to pay for them. You have civilian tires on that car. The police model had 235 60 16 tires.
I have a 2003 Crown Vic police interceptor very good car
My 2003 crown Vic p71 has keyless entry adjustable peddles the pi motor idk man
i noticed with my 2006 that with the new redesigned gauge cluster with the digital display and tachometer, there is no cruise control light bulb, but 2007 they put it back. so if you have cruise control in an 06 there is no light on the cluster i guess.
The light is there and fully functional, you just need to put a bulb in, in 2007 they started putting the bulb in regardless if you had cruise control or not,
Quickest way to tell if your alternator is up graded is the pulley looks different and is bigger it's a decouple clutch to stop the belt chirp the older ones did and sound pretty good spinning down as well. Love these old brutes. I'm not a ford fan but the crown vic and the 2v modular 4.6 is the most reliable cop car out there except mabey the late 90s lt1 9c1 caprices both fantastic cars
My '99 p71 has that belt chirp. When I get on it and then get back out of the throttle quickly it always squeals for half a second.
Did you buy this at the Regina Auto Auction? I remember a white crown Vic that looked exactly like this on their website
Nope, got it at GSC surplus here in BC.
if a paint job is you're main concern then you don't have any real concerns lol!!!
yup, sand her down and take her to Macco.
The 2003 interceptors are rated at 239 horsepower not 229 the 2002 rated at 235. 2004 plus 250hp.
If it runs great you got a good deal, most fords with white paint of that year have issues with the paint flaking.
Obviously the Canadian police beat them to death like their American counterparts. Love yr channel.
I have 01 CV Sport and 04 Marauder. If I buy another Vic I'd go with 06 and above and another Sport if I can find one.
03 Ford changed to rack and pinion and changed suspension. Tach came in 06. Sport came with 235 55 17 thru out production.
According to my dealer, I ordered the last Sport produced in the 01 production year. Sports made 01 to 08.
Enjoy yr channel hope u will do story on yr CV when u have it painted and repaired.
The 17 inch wheels came out in 2006
No I have a 2003 crown Vic and it has 17 and came with 17
@@lamarwhigham7105 look we had a 2011 that came with 16 inch wheels police departments do not care if the car has the wrong wheels they all fit the same
That’s called and oil pressure gauge there buddy
😭😂
I like the flat faced steel wheels on this car, I have a 2001 model Crown Victoria P71 and it's got the deep dish(concave) steel wheels with dog bowl center caps, it's also white in color😊😊👍👍
Paint on my 03 was bs too.
Hey mike is 2008 a good year?
My idle hours are 360h
I think it is - I have a 2008 and can't point out any year-specific bad points. 360 idle hours is like NOTHING. Quite rare for that!
You might have pedal controls and traction control pry back that plastic piece were it would be if there are connections get your self panel from later model plug in connections and bam you now have those features Ford just put cover on a lot of them instead of giving you buttons
no it doesn't work that way, I already tried to confirm
@@kenm2709 I think it depends on if your vehicle is prewired for them, I havent actually tried it, but mine does have all the wires going to a blank panel.
Audio gets loud at 1:04
So the wheels you have are actually not the ones that crack you've got the recall equipped one so thats wrong, the 06s were the first year for 17 inch, and its not fair comparing an 03 which was the upgrade from the 98-02 models which were still similar to an aero and Canada just sucks because 03s here in America have cruise regularly equipped and we get to actually go and see our cars and they were optioned with foot pedal adjustment as well you just bought a low optioned one but the 03 years worst facts is they were known to have rough idle from factory as well as having a gas tank set up that would sometimes explode in a rear end collision which lead to one of the reasons for dupont creating the trunk pack but this is coming from an 03 owner and wishing I had a 98-02 oh and gotta remember theyre police cars and keyless entry shouldn't be a downfall or an inconvenience it actually shouldn't even be a thought
That's an American penny
You don't expect the battery to be any good
Im picking up a 03 on Tuesday got it for a deal because a deer wanted to ride shot gun lol, luckily its a silver paint job, white fords always lose there paint
my 03 dose have cruise control
drama queen waste of time. They only weigh 4,000-4,200 pounds BTW.
Rite?
I was like 5000+????
My 07 is around 4200
Had me wondering, are Canadian pounds different than American pounds 🤣?
Looks like every white GM car from the 90's with the peeling. Instead of P71 go with MGM LS with the dual exhaust.
If you ask me, buy the CIVILIAN model in LX trim, not the the police version, as those are abused and have virtually no luxury.
For 2003 ......
Get the LX.
But again, you won't find them at police auctions.
I test drove a 2003 LX Sport once, but the seller wouldn't negotiate. The 2003's are also infamous for rear axle wheel bearing failure. I went on to win a white 2006 P71 at an auction. It was easier and cheaper to find a $50 donor hood for it at the junkyard than repaint it. These cop cars all weight just over 4000 pounds empty.
Ford had a problem with the white paint they put on these. Seen a lot of those with paint flicking off. Defect.
Unfortunately, the flaking 'base-coat', especially the 'white' color, thru-out the `90 & 2000's is also apparent on GM vehicles and other colors on foreign vehicles, too.
Dangit! Wish I'd seen this video last year. Spent $200 on powdercoating 16" wheels. 😔
We’re they 12 hole wheels or 7 hole wheels
7 hole wheels are the recalled ones
Never buy an 03 Crown Vic. Most of them are unreliable pieces of junk, some are good but about 85% are money pits. Of all CVPI years, the 03s are the most problematic, they have so many mechanical issues for some reason, it’s why you don’t see much of them on the road anymore. They’re also dangerous too, an officer in my hometown was killed by the gas tank issue that plagues 03 CVPIs, John Wheeler, SAPD
Wat happen with the tank
How is the 04?
Man only difference between years is throttle body, pcm tuning, and rear gears..... quick junkyard trip and u can get more power cheap and easy... all p71s here dont have the keyless entry.... 03-04 are the best 2 years to get because of the changes they made to the valve body in transmission on 05-up caused trans failures ....
Agree. I have a 2003 and it has been great in the 4 years I have had it.
2003 heads are more prone to blowing spark plug due to half threads. This was changed in 2004. Also the axle is reputed to be made of softer metal which wore too fast. First year teething problems for sure.. Get an 04.
Is it a way I could switch threads if possible? Just got a 03 only learning
@@joshcoleman2968 Threads are part of the heads so you would have to change the heads to '04 or newer. I wouldn't worry too much. Be sure the plugs are tightened to spec and you should be fine.
Appreciate you man Ima just keep eyes on them and replace them and keep some for extras just in case
@@joshcoleman2968 Good news is that parts are plentiful and cheap. '03 can be updated as needed. When and if you have a motor problem, getting a full thread motor is a must.
Yeah I been definitely looking into engines and transmissions so I can have them at bad times I think long as I keep it service and. Check fluids regularly and spark plugs I should be okay seem like the main problems I could have gotten 05 but dude sold it so I settle for the 03 an grateful the school took care of it
I like to know what my vehicles weigh so hit the truck scales for a rough idea. No way that car weighs 5000lbs unless it’s bullet proof. My marauder is 4400lbs with me in it.
he doesnt know what gvwr is
they weight around 4000 pounds.
Crown Vic is like the 380 of cars no joke towards myself but if you own a Vic you probably own a 380 or high point lol
More like the M1911 of cars. Solid, rugged, old fashioned and tried and true. A high Point would be more like a 2002 V6 Monte Carlo lol
Bullshit I own an H&K and a Glock
Kitty makes it. Got me 2002, better shape than yours
Wtf is wrong with Canada
Kitty makes it. Got me 2002, better shape than yours