Asbestos Shingle Cutter [Restoration]
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- Опубліковано 11 жов 2017
- I had a lot of fun with this tool restoration. Essential Craftsman sent me the Model-F Improved Handy Asbestos Shingle Cutter made by Specialty Tool MFRS. INC. around 1936.
It was in pretty good shape to begin with, but the paint needed to be redone. I think I could use this as a metal brake in the future. I left the screw holes uncovered as they are pretty coarse threads and could use some tightening. I went with a surprise cleat coat on this tool, but it left a finish that is not very smooth and even cracked in some areas. I make some changes to what needed to be painted based on what I think would look nicer.
I made sure to wear a mask and not to bring my workshop clothes into the house after I worked on it. I am not sure of any asbestos on the machine, but I wanted to be safe, just in case.
We breathe in about 1,000,000 fibres of asbestos each year, naturally, so hopefully this restoration doesn't contribute more than that.
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6:18
So this is, what Harry Potter makes these days
Congestus asbestos!
love that he even uses an old saw, 2 axes and a wooden stump do get it out.
I was dying when he took the gas canister to it.
Gustav Nyden I also enjoyed how each improvised hammer left more and more crap on the piece
Hand Tool Rescue lol
He's restored the tool asbestos he can.
evilwarcow this comment needs to be seen.
Took me a moment haha.
I see what you did there
evilwarcow this had better get more likes dammit
See that? *it's the door*
When I was a kid in the around 1950 I used to help my Father install asbestos siding, , he would cut it, and he have me punch the holes , Ironically in 1991 as a Union Carpenter Certified in Asbestos Abatement I worked on The Repowering Lauderdale Project, building containments and removing Asbestos.
Ronald Ballentine
Well I’m glad you are still alive!
I guess asbestos isn’t as bad as they make it out to be.
@@maxhammontree3169 Friend of mine who worked on cars when they had it still in the brakes died of it. You can be very lucky too offcourse.
Well I'll be damn
I love that "Adjust here" is literally molded into the tool. No sticker going to get worn off there.
So many of those lovely old homes had the asbestos siding and the glow in the dark irradium house numbers on them! I always though they were so charming; i eish theyed bringethem back!
Thanks for the video, I just found you and subscribed....love your restoration work!
In 1961 at age 12, I begged my dad to let me use a machine like this and be his cutter and hole puncher. After he watched to see if I could do it 'I was off to the races'!....lol. Ahhh, "the good old days"....lol...and I've yet to have any asbestos related health problems.
Awesome when you guys collaborate on stuff - all of you in this space seem to have so much respect for each others talents.
I neglected to realize this is essential craftsman as well.....what an awesome life.
Nvm lol, cool they know each other though.
A tool that will never see its intended use ever again.
When I was a kid,we sprinkled asbestos on our cereal and we liked it!
Jsalrulz That explains a lot lol
Very nice restoration. Aside of its first intended use, I wonder how good this cutter would deal with laminate flooring.
Keep up your excellent work.
I love the way you grab the random objects and start beating the shit out of it
This. Right here. This is why I watch UA-cam. Well this and AvE....
Great video! Brought back a lot of memories when mom and dad built our first new house in 1950. It was covered with asbestos shingle siding and they used a cutter exactly like this one. Nearly all houses in our county were constructed like this and amazingly not one single person has ever died from asbestosis.
Yet...
And why would they? One gets cancer from ingesting/inhaling the dust over a long period of time, not exposure to the finished product. Many buildings have Asbestos insulation which is quite safe, as long as it is left alone. The reason workers ware the protective equipment is because they are handling the asbestos constantly as it is removed and they are exposed to the dust.
DiverCTH It's been almost 7 decades, I think they're in the clear.
The asbestos is dangerous when it's broken down.
Asbestos was used in gas mask filters long after it stopped being used by civilians as the asbestos was fine until it degraded.
William Garrett It's the dust that people are scared of
I have this exact tool. I, too, broke it down and sharpened the blades, and removed and cleaned the million square-head gib screws, but didn't paint it. Principally because it's still a usable tool- they now make a replacement for asbestos shingles, from ferrocement, and this old dog still cuts as well as it did the original stuff. Additionally, it can be used to cut Hardieplank, though not as precisely as the shingles. Great old tool, solid as a rock, well designed- but you didn't mention that it weighs a ton! Ok, maybe not a ton, but 35-40 pounds.
I think EC said it weighed 83 pounds all crated up. Cast iron stuff is heavy for a reason -- well, three that I can think of: strength (it's brittle), to take abuse (as you hinted at), and weight usually helps the function (in the case of a pan/griddle, more thermal mass cooks more evenly; in this case, the weight of the tool probably does a third of the work for you).
I had one too. When I first had it, I was using it on (wet)asbestos shingles in the late '70's. Walked away from it and left it on my last siding job cutting Hardie Board, late '90's.
Cast iron was predominantly used because it was cheap and easy to work. This is why we still use cast iron today, instead of cast steel in many machinery applications.
buddy of mine has one as well. he uses it for cutting the vinyl armstrong floor tile. Makes fast work of it :)
Can it cut riven slate?
I’ve now just realized you live in Saskatoon, great to see someone from the same city making it big on UA-cam. Cheers
Thanks!
I've been watching these all day.. I regret nothing!!
6:10 I was waiting for the kitchen sink to be used,but I was glad you had the pixie dust to do it in the end😂😂😂😂
When brand new, the shingle cutter came with a free set of replacement lungs.
It's crazy how common asbestos was throughout history.
The reason people used asbestos so much back then, was the fact that it's a great flame retardant material. I'm pretty sure they didn't realize that it's cancerous.
The best part is how long it was known that Asbestos is really bad for your lungs. I think I recall reading somewhere that ancient Greek asbestos mining records stated slaves getting lung damage in those mines.
Spoif, the deluxe kit came with an "Iron lung"
Oh c'mon, they never did any such thing! It came with a coupon for a carton of cigarettes!
I work with this Monster for a Long Time here in Germany ... nice to see it again ... good Job ...
I hope you don't get the cancer from working with asbestos … asbestos to leave that stuff alone . °\(ö)/° = /
Nice job . We got one of these in our shop ...still in operation 😁 and it works still very good . Saves a lot of time 👍🔨 . Greetings from Germany
I love the essential craftsman's channel, great collab and restoration!
I just mailed you a dozen asbestos shingles off my Grandma's house so you can try it out 😁👍
I swear, you always upload when I'm having the worst day. It's like a little consolation prize from the universe! I love these vids and I learn something new every time.
Thank you! Glad I can help.
I think the camo flat green might be the long lost color i've been looking for. That's that 50s industrial drab that every cast iron tool should be
I wish we would of had one of these about 15-20 years ago. I was remodeling houses in very old neighborhoods and we would strip the good panels from houses that needed all new siding and we would reuse them for spot repair or entire sections on houses that we kept the asbestos tiles on. We would cut them using circular saws with the blades on the wrong way. Worked fairly good but you'd taste it for days when you breath. My boss didn't know it was asbestos for years until an old guy walking his dog started yelling at us and backing away. Well that's when we quit playing with those tile panels. Don't have lung cancer yet 😱
Anyway, that's my asbestos tile story.
Kevin Ball I mean how did you know it was that I mean people are scared of the dust
Gahlok12
The older gentleman walking his dog obviously had knowledge of the older building supplies. Many houses still have these asbestos tile siding and from my understanding it's not a big deal because it's painted and sealed. It's when you start removing it and especially cutting it like we were, using power tools nonetheless. After he told us we looked in to it further and talked to other people and found that he appeared to be correct. My boss eventually took a hammer and crushed some up and mixed it with a soil sample from an alley behind a different house he owned in a newer neighborhood and it came back positive for asbestos. He sent it off to an affirmative action city funded program. Needless to say he got the area cleaned by the state and made his property more attractive for sale...and we further found that the tile was actually asbestos. This was almost 21 years ago when I was 17. I don't agree with the tactics of it.
The tile is roughly 16"x10" or maybe 16"x12" and probably 3/16" thick. Usually painted and has a somewhat clay ceramic feel or sound when tapped but is quite brittle and usually has a faux wood grain texture and is fibrous when broken. You can easily see the compressed fibers. Asbestos was used because of its excellent resistance to heat and burning and also good insulating properties. People just didn't know back then that it was harmful to the lungs because of the fact that our body doesn't break it down like it will for other substances. There was also the insulbrick that sometimes has asbestos fibers but were usually easier to handle because the tar would encapsulate it fairly well. I'm not claiming to be 100% correct in everything I said but these are the explanations given to me from 3 generations of carpenters and builders in my family.
Kevin Ball okay
I hope you get yourself tested for lung cancer more often. Either way. Asbestos siding was great. I still see plenty of houses with it, and they look just like when they where new. They've never needed any paint. It is really long lasting stuff, both on houses and in your lungs.
WOW! 😵😳
Playing with cancer .... And didn't know it! YIKES!!!
Always the handy and trusty tool, sawdust.
in over 50 years of asbestos slate roofing in Ireland I have never seen a tool like that. A bit late now as I think I have less than 2000 slates in stock still it would be nice to use it. Nice job as always.
Who needs Tools when sawdust seem to do a good job! ;-)
Very nice work as usual mate! Far out I was giggling when two axes, a circular saw, a fuel can and a chunk of timber came out! haha :)
Thank you! You gotta try everything.
I was waiting for the big carnival mallet myself.
Will Matthews You have some good videos your self. And too Hand Tool Rescue. When you guys have pins or bolts in these tools. I see that you hear them up. But I was wondering since metal expands and contracts with temperature.
Could you guys heat the metal as you do but the cool the pin or bolt with an upside down canister of compressed C02. The idea is the the body/housing would be hot, but some how you can specifically contract the pin. Or basically the part on the inside????
@@HandToolRescue Should have used the magic sawdust first.
The chunk of timber worked!
SO THAT'S WHAT IT WAS !!
EC didn't give enough clues, but it still would have been hard to guess.
Thanks for sharing and take care. 👍
I think I actually someone with the right guess over at EC! Never would have guessed it myself though..
Sander Baas
If anyone got it I must have missed that!
ua-cam.com/video/2unc_GuF1RE/v-deo.html 4th comment from the top ;) Maybe I just watched it at a later time.
As soon as I saw it I started to cringe, my hands still have the blisters from using one sixty two years ago when I helped my uncle shingle his new house. Thankfully Johns Manville was prepunching the upper nail holes or it would have been a lot worse.
july8xx
I hope that blisters was ALL you got from it!
Binge watching the channel and noticed this was made in the town I was born in. Keep up the good work.
I recommended your channel to some friends at a battery refurbishment shop. I told them you found the best rust remover & told them about that wonderful stuff you dip the parts in to remove rust & corrosion.
After all the fun you had with those pins I’m guessing a hydraulic press might be on the short list of next tools you want to restore. Great video - thanks! Love the humor!!
+James Ralston Trying to find an old arbor press right now.
Hand Tool Rescue you can buy them new from harbor freight for like $40 bucks. Small ones anyway. Bigger ones cost more obviously.
I have the same shingle cutter.....very cool!
Me too lol want another
I have the same one also. still use it on hardie siding
Loved the magic fairy sawdust tip.
It's nice to know in this crazy world there are other who restore old equipment with old tools. Your work space is like mine but you can walk.
I have three of them when I buy a home I will restore them
12:17
That glass writing though.
That tool must be rare, noone needs them anymore. Great restoration, especially using that piece of tree carcass.
Question: what do you do with the restored tools? Do you run a museum?
Willem Kossen from what i remember he sells them off for money for the next project
Depends on what you do and if you know they even exist. I use mine constantly. Cut tons of replacement asbestos-free shingles for mill houses.
I'm so excited for your drag saw video!
+Krustacean Thanks! I will be a while though.
Well, that's alright. I love all of your videos, so no rush!
You can still use this bad boy for cutting the luxury vinyl plank flooring. Prob works great!
*Cancer Cutter.
I see what you did there lol
Now if only it could cut cancer out of those world.
Fire retardant
*killer knife
*Inserts typewriter mesothelioma commercials*
Killing me slowly with this song, killing me slowly with this song...
verdatum *softly
Very clever recreating the square head bolt from a carriage bolt.
your subtle comedy does not go unnoticed sir... good work!
you need copper hammer!! it's realy useful
We had something for cutting vinyl asbestos floor tile that looks almost identical, though had a deck on it. Excellent tool. Great resto!
So glad I found your channel time to binge
Welcome!
Where the hell did you get pixie dust?
First you need a Pixie, then dust him, but to get the prime stuff you must go to Fairy and visit the pixie part of town...just be aware of the Shide cops tho.
Exactly!
I heard he buys it from aVe who collects it from all his angry pixies
5:55 - see, the reason this took you so long is you used all the wrong tools. You should have started out with Nutella and it would have been instant!
+Zylon FPV This is very true.
:)
Nutella also “encapsulates” asbestos fibers!! Win-win-win!
James Ralston yup that’s highly advantageous!
They had us in the first half not gunna lie
If theres one thing i love about this channel, its how you can make me laugh without even talking
I like the things you restore. Your sense of humor is something else too. Makes me laugh
"Handy cutter"... i wonder how many people lost a digit or two to this machine.
the humor lmao
Incredibly well built, extremely tight tolerances, no need for cotter pins.
If you used a big crescent wrench on the adjusting screw, and hit it with the circular saw , it might have broken loose..
My house has asbestos shingles on it. Theres a ton of them in the garage too. The houses all around me have the same shingles. I bet they'll last 1000 years
He's restoring that asbestos he can
In UK full haz-mat team and 3 weeks decontamination! 😷😷😷
Alan Mullock no its not you idiot😂 maybe a factory filled with the stuff but small exposure to asbestos isn't as lethal as people make it out to be
Yup, my dad had a whole shed made from the stuff. As long as it isn't broken, drilled, or anything else that would create dust then it's fine. Stable sheets are no problem at all.
@@bradley2427 a single fiber has the potential to cause mesothelioma. There is no safe dosage
there's something about the way you edit your videos - puts me in a relaxed state.....zen-like. great stuff!
There is not one single thing I would change about how you do your vids. It is always amazing...
tries pin punch, tries pin punch, *hammer*
tries pin punch, tries pin punch, *hammer*
:D
@7:14 might have helped if you backed off the lock nut.
It was backed off a little in the footage, but I had it mid-way down and used a bunch of different tools, with no luck, off-screen.
Well that's a bummer
Marco Manes my thought exactly. Or turn it the other way.
Taken into consideration how this screw works or better what it has to do, it was never desgned to turn in the hole, may have even be designed not to turn!!
Nudging it up&down with a hammer (brass one would be nice) should have done the trick.
The linkage keeps it from turning in the hole, and a lock nut on a spring is usually an adjustment mechanism to allow it to move one way but not the other. It must be a thickness adjustment -- I'm pretty sure the intended operation is more "score and snap" than "cut through".
And there wasn't a shot of it, but wouldn't it be pretty obvious that it was threaded in and which way the threads go when he looked at the (edit:)bottom of it?
I have a secret for baking items as well after painting. I read this guy took a large TV box. He lines the inside with heat resistant insulation and very thick foil. He took heat guns and placed them in Four Corners he said you can use the top four corners or if it's not that big of a box to only use one or two. He put a thermometer towards the bottom where the items would sit to make sure he could regulate temperature. He then put a piece of wood down outside placed the items on the would put the box over it and baked his parts. Genius easy baking facility I just always thought I would pass this on because I love these videos of tool restoration. A lot of people I watched don't bake the paint afterwards which will literally adhere to the metal and make hard as a rock especially if using acrylic exedra
Interesting idea!
More valuable and admired in its natural patina.
If it makes you feel better I grew up in a house with asbestos tile, and I ripped up an entire room of asbestos tile that was glued down with asbestos glue as a child with no mask and afaik my lungs are fine since I don't have any trouble breathing and my Dr listens to my lungs every year for my physical and has always given me the thumbs up. Been about 15 years so I should be showing symptoms. 🤷♂️ There is no safe exposure because it's never been tested so there is a possibility that there is safe exposure but we don't know so the safe thing is to avoid it anyway.
People are going mad over this when they know nothing about asbestos. small exposures (like this) aren't as lethal as people make it out to be. The way people go on you'd think he was snorting asbestos lines
Yea, it's kind of like saying you're going to get lung cancer from smoking one cigarette!
Exactly. You need years of exposure to the dust from it.
Thank you
I love your videos you make me laugh all the time you are pretty funny and a good sense of humor
Man that wrench looks like such a knuckle buster if I ever seen one
What ratchet is that you use in most of your videos
Swivel-head ratchet.
Looks like the snap on model store.snapon.com/Round-Head-Chrome-3-8--3-8-Drive-100-Tooth-Red-Soft-Grip-Swivel-Head-Ratchet-P648544.aspx
Its a cheap Powerfist brand from Princess Auto.
I hate them. I’ve busted more knuckles with that piece of shit than any other ratchet I’ve owned. I hate swivel or flex head ratchets. When I want to horque on something I want stable.
Man, open that sucker outside, mask on, pressure washer, just to be sure.
I need a pressure washer! The only real way to be safe is to not do this at all.
Hand Tool Rescue Look into Hotsy pressure washers. Most of the time you don't even need detergents. The hot pressurized water will clean almost anything.
Have you seen the pictures of the asbestos shoveling competition
mask on, fuck it mask off
James W. Yeah some people are just terrified of asbestos. Amazing to see the workers that literally bathed in the shit. Some never got sick at all. Most people don't know the air outside can be quite contaminated with asbestos fibers from natural erosion of mineral deposits. More ppm in the air than you would think.... look up how much is in your area, pretty interesting
When I was very young, my father had the wood claps replaced with asbestos.
I happened to be home from school, and watched the guys on the scaffold.
They had one of these on the scaffold, cutting and hand nailing furiously.
I didn't watch your whole video, but I believe the tool also has a nail punch on it, no drilling necessary.
I love this tool. I have one just like it. I use it every now and then. I got it from my dad who got it from my grandfather. There are thousands of houses in the Pacific Northwest with asbestos shingles. I love it when I get the chance to use it.
Asbestos isn't good, but a lot of people look at it as certain death. A town, Asbest Russia still mines the shit out of asbestos. The whole town treats it as a non toxic material and only a handful of them get asbestos related illnesses. More research needs to be done.
Lol you are such a shill.
Some people smoke like chimneys their entire lives and never get ill. Exceptions are no reason to treat a known carcinogen like flour.
Asbestos does affect the health of some and yes precaution should be used. But, it is not the boogie man that lawyers and government nannies have made it out to be! I have first hand knowledge because my father worked in the construction industry after WW II until his final retirement in his 70's. He had open heart surgery in his 60's and his lungs were clear and pink. Oh by the way he spent years installing asbestos siding to the point he was covered in the dust daily. I think it is a whole lot like cigarette smoking. Not good for you but not every person has cancer. Just my two cents worth.
kamurray67. I agree, it has been hyped. People are afraid of it just like it is guaranteed cancer. So many people don't know it is naturally in the air from erosion of the exposed mineral in its natural environment. The ppm in the air can be quite high in some areas.
Of course his lungs were pink. Asbestos creates nodules in your lungs (much like Tuberculosis), but it doesn't discolor your tissue. Those nodules can spontaneously burst, making the stuff wander and damage even more tissue.
The damage caused by asbestos can never be reverted, it fucks up your lungs permanently. Meanwhile, your lungs can get rid of tar deposits, it just takes a long time.
There's a very good reason asbestos disposal is such complicated business.
Brendan Stanford
Ppm. Parts per million. Somewhat different to standing in a cloud of the stuff daily.
Sure, breathing in some Asbestos fibers will not really damage your lungs, but zero tolerance policies about the stuff are necessary to prevent attitudes as nonchalant as yours to cause people being crippled.
I've had two family friends die from asbestosis. There is absolutely a reason why it's taken seriously.
kamurray67 l
Central Intelligence Agency thanks for civil in your disagreement. I also stated they were clear not just pink. My point was that not all react the same way and I do believe some people clear their lungs. I do believe in caution but not 100% containment. As with many products deemed unsafe there was usually some a replacement product waiting in the wings that was just as great but more expensive to produce that needed government intervention to help get it introduced. Was asbestos one of those products that was treated that way? I don't know but I feel like it is not a giant killer it was made out to be. And yes I do understand many people have developed meso!
A very nice tool, it's for cutting and installing the thick slate / asbestos siding, other wise known as mineral board, it's the safest and best way of doing it.
Very nice job. Scott will be proud of how you torestored that shingle cutter. You truly have a gift. Take care and God bless.
Wetting that thing down was the smartest thing you did...Power sanding was the most risky thing you did. Not worth the risk of mesothelioma in my opinion but to each his own.
Stove The burninator. No where near enough fibers on that thing to worry about. He washed the whole thing down. There is more naturally eroded asbestos in the air than on that cleaned cutter
Do you work for the asbestos industry or something?
“To each his own” not trying to start anything. 😂 Why so sensitive?
chiggymonkey. To each his own. I've done quite a bit of research from many sources on both sides of the spectrum. I find it fascinating.
STB: Because your original post is both alarmist and wrong.
Outstanding craftsmanship
I was waiting for the kitchen sink to come out as a hammer, perhaps next time ! Great restoration!
I've just used my entire day off watching your videos! Time well spent!!!!
This video has a LOT more fire than I was expecting
I saw one of those at the flea market this past month. Very cool piece of history.
I've got the same one in my basement. found it in a basement cleanout and have used it in the past for siding repairs . This is an amazing tool .
I saw this tool in use, having asbestos shingles applied to our house in the very early sixties. The guy told us how dangerous it was and to stay away from it. He then proceeded to take a huge nail and just wack it in half to prove his point. I also remember passing chunks of asbestos around in grammar school during science class, when we were learning our chemistry.
I like the carriage bolt idea!
Very good restoration with a nice bit of humor thrown in ))) . Must sat though , i preferred the original green
The old asbestos shingles were much stiffer than that cardboard. I took the very tip end of my left index finger off playing with one of those things when I was very young. :) Great job there.
Sir,
I'm a "motor head", I come from the Rust Belt. Had to deal with lots of rust... lots..
My current project is a 1968 M-715, it's from Montana, been parked since Carter.
I have found that using "electrolysis rust removal" is superior to anything outside using acid.
A large tote, rebar, rebar wire and a battery charger (and soda) have don't nothing short of *magic* .
I now find old beat up cast iron pots & pans to return to factory (I'm from Erie, PA), home of cast iron works.
This project would have been perfect, the entire unit could have gone in, no dust. Just some food for thought.
+ramairgto72 I've definitely setting up an electrolysis tank soon. I can't take it anymore! Haha
Next up: Restoring a 19th century "Widowmaker" pneumatic rock drill, with live demonstration! It's interesting to think that, despite what we know, in a century or so people will be looking back at our generation and wondering "What were they thinking?" just as we look back now.
This is definitely one of the best videos on the channel ! Thank you, for rescue this great tool.
I had a shingle cutter very similar to this, but had to sell it when I moved. What a nice piece.
I was actually waiting for you to use the kitchen sink on that stubborn pin after the gas jug and circular saw!
Funny, we had Asbestos wrapped pipes in my old house and my mom wrapped clothesline around them that cut into the Asbestos. We lived there 26 years and I'm still alive and kicking.
nice job matching up that square screw!
So he gives you something you enjoy & collect and you send him a possible slow death machine? Nice friend you are!
I had one of these up until about 12 years ago when I removed all the asbestos siding on my house and no longer needed it for repairs. This one started in far better shape than the one I had.
I love the gas can method! 😂😂😂
We used asbestos gloves to remove hot barrels on the M60 and if memory serves me right the M2 .50 cal. I got to play with our M60s more than the M2s, the .50 crews were protective of their toys and didn’t let others play.
This is a neat tool. I like the way he used a socket to tighten those square headed screws. Watching him use that adjustable wrench to loosen those bolts made my knuckles hurt.
I have that asbestos cutter. It used it cutting Hardi board planks. It worked pretty good.