DR. MARTENS VS SOLOVAIR: The Great British Boot Off
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Its a British boot brand battle: the unstoppable symbol of punk and alternative culture and its shadowy doppelganger. Solovair was in fact the original manufacturer of the Dr. Marten brand before they moved 99% of their production off shore, so Solovair continued making boots under their own names. So was it worth Solovair staying in the UK and maintaining the original standard?
00:00 Why Dr. Martens vs Solovair?
01:30 Dr. Martens 1460
02:08 Aesthetic
02:56 Dr. Martens vs Solovair Leather
04:24 Dr. Martens Sole vs Solovair
07:20 Dr. Martens vs Solovair Price
07:38 Pros & Cons
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My wife has just retired after 25 years at the ambulance service. She was issued with a pair of Solavair shoes on her first day and was still wearing them on her last.
Yea o.k.
I'd believe it. I have 5 pairs of Docs, 2 of which are over 20 years old. They made the boots well back then. Hope your wife is enjoying retirement.
Did it require re-soling?
Doc actually don’t have cork anymore after they outsourced to Asia,the foam won’t last you very long before they became really uncomfortable. The solovair is actually cheaper than the made in England doc,and they are higher quality. Imo the solovair would absolutely put doc out of business if they are more well known.
Could agree more. But at Malaysia, we prefer Dr Marthens or underground boots.
@@apaisitodak1854 You mean Underground UK? I always wonder how’s the quality of their shoes. I’m planning on getting a pair of creeper,they looks pretty nice. Btw,do you happen to know where are they made in?
@@Joseph_yy underground UK total made in UK. I have one and still wear it untill now. Compare to Dr Marthens, I'm preferred Dr Marthens than underground UK, but for stylish, no doubt on Underground UK.
@@apaisitodak1854 Thanks! I’ll definitely get a pair in the near future 😆
Knowing that they use European sourced leather is enough for me to give them a chance. I'll be honest in that I really dislike buying products sourced from Asia but I have also come to accept that If I want much anything likely it comes from products sourced in Asia. If I had to pick I'd say anything, not from China but they are a superpower that produces things everyone needs at a cheap market price.
I bought a pair of Solovair boots after watching Weston at Rose Anvil tear down several pairs of Docs vs a pair of Solovairs. The Solovairs are better made on just about every level. Really enjoy the boots.
Based on their website, I get the impression they run true to size. Would you say that's right?
@@davidpalmer9014 I don’t know that I could answer that very well. I only have the one pair Solovair, the 11-eye derby (built on the 409 last). It feels a little narrow for my foot, but the next size probably would be too large. When I need a new pair, I might try the astronaut boot (built on the 493 last) since they say it runs a little larger.
I found the 8 hole derby true to my brannock measurement (11.5E). The boot takes some getting used to as it's snugger in the toe box than I'd have liked it to be and looser in the heel. My pair was also shipped without any sort of removable footbed, so you might have to buy some insoles. Boots are unwearable without imo, like wearing bricks. I'm happy with them now, though.
thats why i bought a pair too lol. we gotta be the ones to shift the minds of people to solovair.
I've owned a few pairs of Asian made DMs. The first pair I owned lasted a couple of years but the soles eventually cracked across the bottom and started letting in water. I have a couple of newer pairs that I've taken good care of and they are still in decent shape but I always wanted an original pair. I finally decided to buy the MIEs but before I pulled the trigger I was doing some research and the name NPS came up as the original manufacturer of DMs as Dr Martens by Solovair. The factory was still open and producing the same shoes as I dug a little deeper it' seemed Solovair was the better choice. I bought a pair of 8 hole derbys and after wearing them almost daily for about three years and they still look close to new. The soles are a bit harder than the Docs but they have very little wear as a result. The fact that they can be re soled means I'll probably have them a very long time.
So DR. Martens stops buying made in England shoes from Solovair and starts rebranding cheap asia shoes. Then they sue Solovair for still using the yellow stitching and same soles. What is the ethical brand to buy shoes from? It's not even a question of preferance for me anymore. Dr. Martens is the big company with rich bosses only using the old punk image to sell to uninformed buyers we all like to hate. Suport localy handmade shoes!
"Dr. Martens is the big company with rich bosses only using the old punk image to sell to uninformed buyers "
Bingo baby !
Facts baby factores
I have a couple of pairs of solovair , including an ox blood astronaut boot and the quality of the leather and comfort far exceeds anything I’ve had on previous doc martens. Go for solovairs
Hi, I'm trying to choose which one to buy: astronaut or derby boots. Which of them are more comfortable and reliable?
I prefer the astronaut boots as they are only 6 eyelets, so don’t go so far up above your ankle, but definitely go for solovairs as they are much better quality!
@@craigsmith7448 I'm thinkin' about 11 eyelets cause I like that punk-style. Thank you!
I want a pair of ox blood but I have two questions, one is it as bright as the made in England dr marten oxblood and two is it as slim around the foot as the made in England dr martens?
I don’t own oxblood doc martens but looking at them the oxblood colours look similar. The astronaut boot is certainly slimmer round the foot as the profile is different/slimmer compared to their other boots, but as I said solovairs quality is much better. Hope this helps😀
I think Solovair should go with green stitching to make them more noticeable and to match the tab. Even though Solovair are better constructed, DM's are more fashionable. The whole DM range is classy in looks, just not in construction.
Not a bad idea although I do like the silver on mine
Dm are better
i dont know how its been when this comment was made, but solovairs product palette is very solid and i personally dont have anything id miss there. also docs 20 and 14 hole boots are much harder to find. this is for german shops anyway
@@Kosmouchkosmatakosmos Quality wise definitely not, look wise maybe.
I think the lawsuit limits Solovair to grey or white stitching?
So no green or anything else interesting?
I do agree with you though, I think it would be great if they did green stitching.
Not just saying that cuz it is my favorite color. 😂
I have two pair of solovair, doubt I'll ever buy docs again
You’ve finally done it. I’ve never actually owned docs because they were too expensive when I wanted them, but now that I can afford them, I can only go with solovair. I bought the 8 eye in gaucho and, while I probably went a half size too large, I made a 1/4” thick wool felt insole and haven’t looked back. I’m using them as a winter boot and they are serving fabulously.
How’s it been with the boots, are they still going strong?
@@josiah7499 yes, they are. I keep them well oiled, though, and I don't really wear them in the summer.
Docs became way more pricey here, in Germany the 1460 made in Asia now cost 189€ (my first ones 7 years ago were 145€) the solovair 210€. Next ones are going to be solovair definitely.
here in australia they actually cost the same. be stupid to buy docs instead here haha
watching in 2023 and searching for new boots. The "original" is now at 199€ and the Solovair is at 219€. The "Made in England" is even more expensive with 249€. I love my Docs very much, but i won't go back to those. they're just not worth the money anymore.
The history is a bit misleading. NPS (branded Solovair) did used to make Doc Martens in the past but only small quantities. They are a small co-operative with less than a hundred employees I believe, whereas at the height of Doc Marten fame in the 1970s and 1980s R.Griggs (Doc Martens UK licensee) employed a couple of thousand people in the UK factories. So NPS /Solovair (and some other small manufacturers) only ever made a tiny percentage of Doc Marten boots and most were still made by R.Griggs from 1959 onwards.
Very true. Good info. 👍
They used to be a cooperative, but a few years ago a private investor took over.
Thanks for this comparison. I was looking for a Doc alternative. I had 2 pairs of Docs in different colours all through high school...a while back lol. I walked most days and that was about 3.5 kilometres both ways combined, and wore them everywhere else as well. Those two pairs lasted until after high school. Now I drive to work and mostly everywhere I go and my new Docs wear out in a couple years. It's sad how far their quality has come down, I will never buy Docs again.
You’re lucky the most I got out of a new pair of made in England docs was six months before they split across the toes ..180 quids worth of junk ..my old solovair made docs in the 80’s lasted me for ten years at the very least great boots unlike this new crap they’re making now .im going to try solovairs this time .
I’m from the UK and neither Dr Martens nor Solovairs would make my list of “Great British” boots. That list would include the likes of Trickers, Cheaney, Barkers, Loake, Crocket and Jones, etc. It used to be that R Griggs and Solovair both made Dr Martens, with Griggs calling theirs Airwair. Back in the 70s to 90s, Airwair were superior and more sought after, with Solovair catering more for the workwear market. R Griggs then became Dr Martens and their quality has deteriorated (they used to include a shank and had better leather), while Solovair now make the superior product. A few points: both boots are technically Goodyear welted in that a welt is sewn to the shoe to which the sole is attached, and; technically they are both repairable, since they are both made using identical processes, though Dr Martens doesn’t seem to supply soles to American cobblers, or there is no demand. I think Dr Martens has misled you into thinking there is a cork midsole. I think they either use felt or poron foam padding, but definitely not cork, even in their Northampton-made shoes. The Engineered Daily TV channel has factory videos of both Dr Martens and Solovair. Rose Anvil has also cut them both in half - no cork!
you forgot John Lobb, snowflake. normal people wear martens / solovair and do not care about cork midsoles, shanks, your gluten free diet and 70s history...
@@tlamasz somewhat of a snide overreaction, and clearly off the mark if you think a cork filling or a shank is some sort of elitist affectation. Both are important components for both work and dress footwear for people who actually have to be in them for long hours....If you think wearing doc martens is a sign of solidarity with the working class guy, that's fine....but just realize that that is more style than substance...
@@tlamasz So 'normal people' wear low quality boots. I have bought Loake, Barkers and even Cheaney boots multiple times in the sales, for cheaper than a made in England Doc Martens boot would cost me. If you wish to pay more for rubbish, feel free but because something is popular doesn't make it good.
I put about 1000 miles on an already used pair of Shelley's Rangers before they wore out.
In fairness I could easily name ten American brands that made far better boots than Red Wing, but I wouldn’t blink at all if someone called them the Great American Boot Company. Great and quality aren’t necessarily synonyms, know what I mean?
I know that the Solovairs are technically better in every way but the Docs just look so cool.
It’s not just the yellow stitching (although as you mentioned it is iconic now) but the way the stitching is chunkier. It’s also how the gum sole contrasts the black leather, the way the triple stitched part where the upper joins the vamp is just slightly higher up, the way the tie box is flatter and less bulbous and the shape of the sole when viewed from above is more squared off.
I wish that either Docs were made like they used to be or that the Solovairs could make their boots as cool looking as the Docs.
Solovair was originally sued by DM for being too similar.
Well since the Solovairs are re-soleable and the stitching is decorative you could technically just take them to a cobbler and get them to put a thick yellow stitching on it. Or even better, whatever colour you like.
I have three pairs of Soloviar, one of them has yellow stitches just like DM. The other two are Solovair Monkey boots, green twitches. Solovair are definitely more comfortable and durable than DM.
what type has yellow stitching? was it a limited run?
@@sergiousera4905 Solovair used yellow stitching on their boots until around about 5 years ago, when Dr Martens sued them sucessfully and forced them to switch to a different colour.
@@AnthonyLauder thank you for the update! I didn't know. I understand Martens but that a real shame, the yellow really makes the boots stand out
@@sergiousera4905 Back in high school my friends who had docs would hide the yellow stitching by drawing over them with black permanent marker (school uniform rules), guess you could do something similar to Solovairs?
I’ve been waiting for a comparison like this from you!
After watching several videos like yours, I've gone for Solovairs instead of DMs after 30 years of DM wearing. New to me, so time will tell, but living in England, buying stuff made in England seems right, and if the quality is better, then it's a no brainer!
Some more pros for solovair: They come in half sizes, they have a much better material counter, the soles arent as bouncy because their durometer rating is higher meaning the soles dont wear out as fast.
Thanks for making this comparison review, I have both solovair hishine derby and MIE doc. I would like to give some insight for whom are interested. Personally I prefer solovair over docs however tbh, it really comes down to sizing since I am a half sizer and docs are either too loose or too tight. The solovairs have a wider last (F width according to their website) and higher toe box so its a wiser choice for ppl with thicker wider feet. I am a D/E width, that being said, Solovair doesn't give me that snug fit but more potential for winter time with thick socks! The wooden shank also offers a bit more support if you're planning to wear them for a long day.
Hey with DM's I can barley fit in size 12 in a regular derby style boot but a 13 is too loose, but in steel toe there to tight around the toe cause my foots really wide, so I was gonna get size 13 in steel toe, because length wise 12 is fine it's cause my foots wide as all Hell down towards my toes, like a friggin caveman or something? but then I thought I was gonna try solovair cause the offer a 12.5 but are you saying a solovair 12 will be wider then a dm 12? Because I usually by 13 in sneakers like vans or converse because my foots to wide for there 12 but I don't really need a 13 for length, if that makes sense? Anyway hope that's not too confusing and thanks for any advise
Are the sizing the same. I’m a UK7 doc
@@masonwhite5717 Yes. I'm a UK7 and currently have UK7 Solovairs on. Perfect fit.
Thank you @stridewise For this Review, it helps me a lot to make a decision.
I bought my Solovair 6 Hole Astronaut Boots in Burgundy Rub-Off a month ago. It was difficult to walk in these at first. I had to buy heel pads because my heels got bloody. The heel pads then went very well and after 2 weeks of daily wear I can now walk in them without heel pads and they are super comfortable.
Bought my first pair of Doc Martens in ’92, so they were basically Solovairs with yellow stitching. They were a nightmare for a couple of weeks but once broken in they were sooo comfortable. No pain no gain Iol.
Skins in '68 wore either one. Both made in England and of decent quality, with the nod going to Solovair. OY OY OY!
Love it Ian
oi is the shit
All the skins I new would only wear Docs, never heard of Solovair.
no Oi! in 1969.....!
@@southerncampingexperience3841 gate keeping is the coolest shit ever damn youre so cool yo
Solovair having replacement soles easily available is what made me get mine. So they'll last way longer than Docs ever will. I'm fully satisfied and I don't feel bad paying a little extra for the Solovairs now that I've had them for a while. I don't imagine I'll buy Docs again
Good luck finding a cobbler willing to put those soles on. I bought the soles and keep getting turned down by cobblers who insist that i “bring them in so i can see them” or say they can do it, keep them for a week, and then call me up to say they can’t do it.
@@whatwedointheshadows3349 I got the "bring them in" line today when I asked about Docs.
@@whatwedointheshadows3349 Solovair do a re-soling service I believe
Yay! I've been waiting for this video!
I totally agree with you on the docs losing their comfort after all day wear. I liked this comparison video, you seemed to show more love to the docs in this video than the timberland vs docs lol, docs and solovair feel more like trainers for me because how light they are and bouncy, perfect for the streets, where as timbs are just solid boots for any condition though nubuck is a pain to clean, hence the reason I purchased the helcor premiums.
i love to see you do a review on the timberland helcor premiums as the leather is scratch proof, which I have personally tested myself, the only downside is the interior isn’t leather like the nubuck premiums which is a huge disappointment. Great video as always
I will have to check out Soloviar. I wore Doc's for years until two new pair fell apart on me within a few months. Haven't looked at them since. My old UK docs are still together, I just wore through the soles.
As soon as I get paid I'm going to be picking up a pair of the greasy Solovair boots. I love the look of the Doc Martens, but I know the quality isn't the greatest so I was looking for a higher-quality alternative and fell in love with the solovairs company and quality. Never bought a pair of shoes like this so hopefully I love them just as much on me!
What a great and thorough video!
I bought some of the ‘made in england’ Docs a couple years ago. They are wearing fine, but the comfort went downhill after about 6 months.. disappointing. I’ve tried a few different insoles that seem to help, but when I was a teenager in the 90’s, the Docs back then were great... (as far as I remember anyway..lol)
I've been waiting for this.
I got a pair of Solovairs a year ago and they have already lasted longer than my last Doc Martens (which had the seem of the soles rip a part). Easily the Solovairs are the better boot. Going to buy another pair in another colour.
How is the sizing between them too?
Didn't know about Solovair until your video, sadly my last par of Doc's (Asia) didn't last long as my other pairs of Doc's (English). I'm definitely going to find a cobbler who can put Solovair on my Docs. Thank you for the knowledge.
Thank you, very informative and informative.
Awesome review thanks for sharing.
I was always the Doc's fan, simply because of how iconic they are, it was almost my dream to buy them. But once I started to really consider them, and I was trying them on, looking at them in the stores - they absolutely don't convince me. I have no idea why I didn't know Solovair exists until very recently, but I'm absolutely buying those. Docs are iconic but the standard models look so cheap, especially once they get a bit worn out, and they crack so easily.
Yep I've had a pair of 1490s crack within 4 years of fairly regular use... Next pair is Solovairs.
@@cd0u50c9 I already gave my Solovair pair a fair amount of use, and I am really satisfied with how they look and behave. Even tho I do find them a bit hard, I can walk in them the whole day!
@@a6m41 I am not completely sure as I am currently traveling and I don't have them on hand. With Docs I for sure found the bigger size more comfortable. From Solovair I actually got the Gibson shoe, so I don't know if something changes for the high boots. I believe I sticked to the size chart and took my actual size, not a bigger one like in case of Docs.
Hey! Ik it's been 2 years, I want to know if you got a pair of Solovairs and if they have lasted you till now
@ayesha_h I did, but so far, I was wearing them constantly for, let's say, a year. Now I am abroad long-term and I don't have them with me. But for that year I was wearing them really a lot and walked in them a lot, I was satisfied with them.
Thanks for the comparison video.
I had docs by solovair in maybe 94. THey lasted me 10 years or so. I was a teen ager then and worked in kitchens and eventually auto repair shops. I recently ordered (and returned) MIE docs after watching this and Rose Anvil cut the boots in half. I have ordered the Solovair burgundy rub off derby 8 boot and it took a bit to break them in but I absolutely love them. I'm on my feet as a Barber all day and have nothing but praise for this Solovair. Is it the best boot in the world? No. Better than what DM has been putting out? yes there is no question about it!
Very good comment and greetings from germany! It's just right what you say. Solovairs aren't the best boots in the world, there are even much better and more expensive boots. But: talking about what they are, a classic leather boot Made in England from a 140 year old shoe factory in the style of the famous DM's....they win. For every cent of the price you get pure, serious quality and a long lasting, very comfortable boot. That is what more and more people realized in the last years and NPS deserves that growing success.
Cafe leather jacket from Thursday...I agree! If you do, can you do your best to give size suggestions? I'm on the fence, about buying one of their jackets without trying it on first...which obviously I can't do first...so you're the man!😁
I am wearing my new pair of Docs while watching this, I loved Docs as a kid/early adult but never could really afford them until recently again so I treated myself to a pair. This honestly is the first time in my life I've ever heard of Solovair, I will look into them based on your review, however, and this is big, they're not Docs. The yellow stitching is an absolute must if going down this path in my opinion and tbh eventhough they are more expensive all I would feel wearing solovair is I'm wearing a pair of knocked off Docs, I'm sure most of anyone seeing them would think the same. It's the look, the stitching and just the vibe of wearing Docs, they are far more than just a boot. Thanks for the very informative video, God bless.
jup, the power of branding. i have 3 docs and they are fine enough imho
@@phipschi4255 Do you have 3 legs? 🤣
@@NidgeOSullivan 3 pairs lol
I was fortunate enough to own a pair of Martens when I was around 15 and they were made in the UK. Amazing boot. They gave me HUGE blisters until I broke them, but once they were broken they fit like a glove. Wore them for around 7 years not giving them the slightest care (I was young..) and used they every single day. When I made a hole on them I bought a second pair...this time from somewhere in south Asia....completely different. The leather felt super plasticky, was never able to break them because they didn't adapt.....horrible. couple of years ago I finally decided to get a pair of solovair. SUPER HAPPY with the decision. The leather is still not as good as my first docs from 20 yes ago, but since day 1 they don't give me a single blister, leather is deff better than nowadays docs...they are super comfy.... Planning on getting a couple more in different colors. Love them
I bought some new Martens about 3 years ago, my previous ones were bought in the 90's (when the factory was in England) and I wore them like hell for 3 years, the new Martens soles lasted less than 6 months, I was totally dissapoinred on the quality droop. I've been wanting to try a pair of Solovairs for sometime, I know I will miss the yellow stitching but it sounds they will be as nice and lasting as the original Martens, plus they just opened a resole service for UK and soon Europe!!!
Sergio Usera Solovairs use to have yellow stitching. If you dont mind buying used.
I have a pair of Solovair safety shoes and they're excellent. They are still holding up well after years of abuse. Would recommend.
For anyone living in England, I can thoroughly recommend the Solovair free factory tour. They have a factory shop too.
if I can just buy a pair of Solovair in our area. I'll buy it in a heartbeat.
You can get them online.
@@tikotiko5328 they dont ship to some countries unfortunately
Noah NY sell them in the US.
I just commented on one of their photos in IG and they said they ship for free to other countries including returns.
@@marialeonorateresa5101 that will be good. i'll look into it. I'll ask about the taxes and stuffs in our place.
Here in Sweden the price for Solovair and Doc's are at the same price. Obviously you will go for the Solovair!
Every modern Marten boot I've seen or owned the leather peels. All my boots are military surplus or NPS brand like Solovair, Gripfast, etc.
I wore DR. Martens working in a grocery store for 8-11 hrs a day my feet were on fire after each shift , if you can get used to it that's why I stop wearing them.
I was a server wearing dr martens 12 eye boots, same thing happened to me. I've walked a lot more in my solovair boots (after breaking them in ofc.) and never had feet pain or lower back pain from them. Just my experience.
i was wearing docs working as a barista for a while very comfortably, up to probably two years after i started wearing them basically daily. i just started a new job tho - the docs are almost exactly 4 years old, and after 2 days in them i’ve accepted the fact that i need to wear some sneakers until i can replace them. i think it was the boiling a frog thing - i didn’t notice how awful they had become bc it was gradual, but now it’s totally untenable
I have a pair of Docs that I have worn basically every day for 5 years - they are still great but the soles are now worn slick. Just over a year ago I bought a replacement pair, for when the originals finally give up. I started to wear the new ones in and within two weeks the soles fell off at the instep. As it was over a year since I bought them, Docs would only give me 10% off a new pair.
Then I bought Solovair - the quality is so obvious. The leather is great and they were more comfortable out of the box. I have now bought a second pair of Solovairs and I can’t see me every owning another pair of Docs.
I would love so much your videos to have subtitles/close caption.
Really good review
As a bartender I can hands down recommend Solovair over DR. Martens. Honestly the break in wasn't bad at all and I found them super comfy from day one (that being said I do wear good quality thick socks so that may have helped).
I have been wearing them 5+ days a week for 3 years and so long as you take care of them they will take care of you. Super durable and being able to replace the sole makes it an investment for my feet not a 1 time buy (I have had them resoled once after 2 1/2 years of hard use).
I bought a pair of Solovairs (1/2 size bigger than I usually wear, btw) last year and had to stop wearing them, because they caused deep, painful grooves across the tops of my feet after a couple hours. I used shoes trees and conditioners and eventually stretch spray, but after 3 months there was no improvement. I contacted Solovair, but the best they could do was offer me $60 off on a pair of their Premium line, which have leather linings instead of cloth, and might stretch more.
I had a similar problem with my pair of Solovairs. I persisted, wearing thick socks, a few hours per day, but then sort of gave up for a few months. Then I switched back to thinner socks and they were OK, when I put an insole in. The boots had somehow adjusted themselves. They feel great now. Guess the tough leather makes them hard to break in.
in their sizing chart they said to get a 1/2 size smaller right?
For me it's Solovair all the way! I bought a pair of acorn monkey boots and they were perfect out the box. Literally no break-in. Been treading in them for bout a year now and they are still more comfortable than me Docs Churhes...
Thanks mate great review
Cheers Kevin!
Thanks so much for posting this vid - had never heard of Solovair but have been looking for a higher quality alternative to Doc Martens. Now there's a place to check out. 👍
Glad I could help Karen!
@@Stridewise In fact, I bought a nice pair of brogues!
Great video mate welldone , I've owned both and would agree with you review . 👍👍👍
I got my first pair of DM's in 1986 in Washington D.C. I wore them everyday for years before they finally blew out in the mid 90's. By then Doc's were everywhere and the quality was dropping so I didn't want a new pair. Recently an old friend posted a picture of his new Solovair Derby boots and I had to order a pair. Right now they are stuck at the DHS warehouse and won't be delivered until Monday!!! Had to go with the oxblood, just like my first pair.
Would like to add that the wooden shank in solovair boots - under normal conditions- offer some flex yet still offering support. As such it would be better in and around the city or in urban cobblestones settings. Where a steel shank would be better is out in the woods - but neither of the two would be at home there. red wing boots would be the most durable but then there’s a price difference.
I bought a pair of Solovair's in greasy black last night.
Hope you like em!
@@Stridewise Thank you! I'm pretty stoked.
a comparison between docs 1461 and solovair gibson 3 eye would be great!
Interesting video, I prefer the look on solovairs!
Nice, informative review. It looks like Solovair next time for me. Cheers.
I mean Tricker’s and Grenson would be a pretty epic British comparison too!
Solovair offer better leather options. Greasy (mentioned), Gaucho Crazy Horse, Chromexcel, full grain, and a bunch of other stuff. Plus they recently announced their in-house resolve service if you’re in the UK if not just pop down to your cobbler.
thanks for that info, appreciate it.
@@HusseinAbdirahman no worries 😉
Based on their website, I get the impression they run true to size. So a US 11 would be a UK 10. Would you say that's right?
Check out the Horween Leather from Chicago that Doc uses. Great stuff!
Hey Nick, what size are you in Solovairs compared to your Thursday Captains? I'm an 11 in sneakers, and a 10.5 in Thursdays. Solovair's size chart is a little iffy and I'm pretty sure a 10.5 US/9.5 UK would fit me best in Solovairs but I want to be sure before I order.
Will a leather with a paint or coating like this still take leather conditioner or balm?
You talk about the stitching.
That’s one of the main features when buying them. Got to be yellow.
Cherry reds where my boot of choice in the late 60s and would spend hours putting a spot shine over the big toe like a conker. Just another fad. Like cutting a circle out of your steel toe cap and shinning that.
That said they were crap boots after a while the soles would split that’s when hot knives became the go to item for re-sealing.
I like the idea of being able to resole them.
Been weraing the same model of Dr. Martens for like 10-15 years, just replacing them every now and then. Spending a bit more on something better wouldn't be a problem, as I tend to grind down a pair of Docs fairly fast. I guess I have mostly stuck around because of habit, but I do like the look and I do want that steel toe :D.
Damn when rose anvil cutting one of those in half lol
Must have missed that episode, he did lol my bad xD
He did.
Before watching this video i bought a pair of Doc Martins Chelsea Wincox boots thou they look great its noticeable they have no shank.
I just wondered has anyone tried to make a homemade wooden shank ? then gluing them directly inside the boot then placing an extra insole on top creating a shank sandwich .
I wonder f there was enough room for a thin wooden shank and a good quality insole it would make a pair of Docs more rigid and comfortable .
I never knew l have a par of Solovairs until now! Wow..that explains the green tab
I actually found your video interesting. i didn't even know solovair even existed. I did on the other hand have a pair of doc martens in the early 90s pardon the pun but they were tough as old boots. I had them for ages. Unfortunately I don't remember what actually happened to them. I would love another pair but I feel they are way over priced and these days mostly piggybacking on there glory days
I used to be a Docs retailer in the uk in the late 80s early 90s and grew to dislike them. Freezing in the winter and hot in the summer. The soles are not hard wearing at all, in fact after a couple of weeks the tread shows large amount of wear. I never heard of solovair at the time. The company that made them was R Griggs I believe.
How about Doc made in England vs. Solovair? I think that comparison is more fair to my eyes!!!
But I’m leaning towards buying Solovair!!!
Thank you so much!!!
Would I be better off going with solovair dealer boot vs doc martins made in england boot and why. Is the arch better in solovair? How much heavier are they compared to doc martins made in england chelsea boots
The camera close up of when you said “the German army in World War 2” while rubbing your hands was very telling and clear to what you were insinuating almost lol
;) ;) ;)
i feel a bit bad because most people WERE conscripted to be fair
Love the “German army” look on your face, you were thinking of the last doc video? 😂
Hahaha being more diplomatic this time
I don't have any experience with solovair but I see a lot of comments complaining about the bad drmartens soles and how you can't replace them. But I have never had any problems whatsoever and I only have 'new' ones with the oldest being about 10 years and also having a few thrifted ones which I don't know the age off. Might have been luck but I feel like it's not that awfully bad.
Was a Doc wearer since high school 30 years plus of Docs multiple styles, so I went to buy a new pair a couple of years back and to my horror I saw the made in china tag no more Docs for me.Am now very happy with my 2 pairs of Solovair boots.
would you say they are just as good as docs from the 80s-90s?
@@lottie1163 probably on par with them I do look after them all really well it’s just the soles do eventually wear out but the leather stays supple and no splits
Great video, thanks! I’d go with the solovairs.
After decades of wearing DMs I bought a pair of Solovair boots and they are just far superior in every way. Plus, Chinese made DMs cost £159 and UK made Solovairs cost me £161 after a 10 percent discount. That's £2 more for a different league of quality. It's a no brainer.
I have Two pairs of Solovairs, I wear them while I'm on my feet all day at work, riding my motorcycle, my horse, hiking, everything. They are so great
Thanks for sharing!
Hi could you kindly advise me ,I’m looking to buy solovair boots, what leather should I go for greasy or the smooth, which is better leather
Thank you
I absolutely Love my Solovair you wont regret getting a pair!!
Based on their website, I get the impression they run true to size. So a US 11 would be a UK 10. Would you say that's right?
I just ordered a pair of Doc Martens. I don't like that yellow stitching, but I bought the patent leather and I don't think the yellow is on there. I'll be happy no matter what
Can you please review the thursday cafe leather jacket?
I should, right?
@@Stridewise yes indeed. I’m very curious to the materials used as it hits a certain price point of $350. Usually you start to find your more reliable leather jackets at $500. Thank you for all the hard work and wonderful videos!
Does anyone know how the sizes of both compare? I was looking to buy a pair of solavairs but I wanted to see if they have similar sizing to docs
Solovairs look interesting.
They have very nice looking chelsea called the Dealer.
I like my DMs, I've a pair of 1460s Black Made in England. I'd like a pair of Solovairs in Ox blood or Burgundy. The only snag is do I choose the Derby boot or the Astronaut?
Just wanted to know about the different soles? I have a pair of 1460 made in England boots lace up. I'm just confused
Thursday boot quality for 200 seem like a deal to me.
I do love my brown 1460's though
I love docs but id love to try Solovairs for sure. For docs one thing I can say. Never walk on Ice if you do not have to ... no grip at all. I know they both are not hikeing boots but I hope your heart does not pound with Solovairs when walking on anything slippery lol
You are definatley leaning more towards the solly's but I'm old school so it has to be DM's all the way. 👌🏻
here in Australia the Dr Martens went up in price to about 299 aud (for the bad quality 1460) and the Solovair are 315 aud. people still all buy the DOCs even though a lot of people only get 6 months out of them now haha..... should be an easy win for the made in england Solovair
Hello, have anyone pass with these boots the airport security check? do you know if they trigger the alarm?
if it's a choice of the two, i say solovair. i've had many DM's, find them bought for their look not their quality. they don't last, as the sole compresses or wears with little usage. i'm wearing solovair now, using ortho / arch support insoles and heels are lasting longer. sole is denser to my experience on solovair. had them resoled at companies recommended place, but noticed split in leather when returned - they're not handled that well (as in not boxed when shipped for resole) and simply wrapped, and it would be possible to flex the body when welt is redone and cause this split. could also be flawed leather, but they're NOS 90's boots and maybe dried-out ... despite me conditioning and cleaning my boots to maintain them. you'd have a hard time recommending solovair to most because on the surface they're the same, and many might even think solovair are ripping off DM styles then charging rip-off prices for them. solovair are far better, but i will move onto something else because there are better makers (many) not that far above the price that can be resoled too.
What do you recommend in terms of better makers?
@@lisawaldstadt4977 hard to make recommendations when decent boots cost (typically) £400 or so and can last a long time. anything that is goodyear welted (can be resoled), has a dainite / vibram sole (used by best makers), and is handmade on varying size lasts (for better but not custom fit) and has a sturdy shank to support the arches. have a look at trickers, loake, edward green, george cleverly, sanders + sanders. this part of the market is providing the kind of quality once commonplace at a price that has risen due to loss of customers to cheaper and inferior products. it's not the most expensive, but seems initially overpriced. comes hand in hand with needing to learn about care; cleaning, conditioning, polishing, using shoe trees and decent polish like saphir to avoid damaging ingredients.
I wear a U.S. 11/ U.K. 10 in Dr. Marten’s, how is the sizing on Solovair’s vs. the Doc’s?
Skinheads brought DM's into popular culture, the larger ox blood DM's had a tag Doctor Martin on them, the smaller waxed DM's had a tag saying Airware.
You need to do a review on George Cox shoes.
I had plenty of Dr Martens as a kid, and teen. I would not wear them as an adult. I have not done so for 35yrs. They used to have structural problems way back then, and that was meant to be when they were decent quality.
I can speak for the comfort of solovairs. I got a pair of 8 eye steel toes with insoles (had to get them cause they didn't make them my size which was about a half size smaller) and I can honestly wear em all day. Even on my 20 eye boots I once walked 10 miles in a day (5 seperate 2 mile trips) with no discomfort. I can't do that with my 20 eyes any more because the sole is a bit worn.
If you want to get the most perfect, best fitting insoles for Solovair Boots: It's the Sunbed Comfort. It's a Made in Germany Brand, and it isn't just the good quality, it's the fit as if they make them specially for Solovair.
@@vonanstetten2355 thanks, I'll take note of this
@@vonanstetten2355 the pair of soles I wear now are the memory foam ones solovair sells, but those likely are just a third party product with their name slapped on em. On the other hand, those essentially have solovairs assurance that they'll make someone fit a half-size-big solovair