Karakas basically invalidates the entire format, so it's ban makes total sense. In a 100 card singleton format like Canadian Highlander it's an absolute house for the reasons listed, bouncing both ally and enemy legends for an insanely low cost can be backbreaking.
@@laurentrobitaille2204 bargain gives you the card immediately, where necro requires you to pay then wait until your end step to get the cards. With bargain, you cam just churn through your deck all in one turn.
@@laurentrobitaille2204 if you destroy necropetence before player reach end of turn, necropotence is a net loss of life without benefits. You can't do this with bargain, if it enters the board, you will be able to draw in response to a destroy effect (but for krosan grip, but if you are expecting it , you could still activate draws before conceding priority), Griselbrand is banned for similar reason.
Oh God I pulled iona from a pack and ran it once in Commander back when that set was new and never again. I just wanted to show off some new shit i pulled but wasn't ready for the instant panic that swept the table
41:07 in regards to Nyxbloom Ancient, the card is fine on its own. Yes triple mana is insane, but it doesn’t win you the game on its own. You still need spells to profit from it. In a normal game, you slam it down turn 5-6, but you’re tapped out so you have to wait a full rotation before being able to use it. So in that sense, it’s a big meatball that gives you an insane advantage, but not enough to win the game outright
In summary, it has a similar issue to Omniscience. It costs a lot and requires you to have more cards in hand to do anything with it. Except with Omniscience, you don't have to wait a turn cycle.
Some cards aren't banned because they draw a BIG target on their controller's face, Blightsteel Colossus basically tells everyone else at the table "you need to kill me now or I'll pick you off one at a time." That doesn't matter one on one, but at a table with three other people people will dogpile on them, with a spell like Armageddon, that MIGHT NOT be with their decks, but IRL instead. I'm sure you can imagine Yagmoth's Bargain, & Sheoldred The Apocalypse, you actually GAIN one life for each card you draw & you have all the cards you WANT in your hand.
The Chaos Orb story is the backstory for the card Chaos Confetti from the Unglued expansion, which basically let's you do exactly what the player in the story did.
At the beginning of my turn I had the only creature on the battlefield - Liesa, Shroud of Dusk and I drew a Demonic Tutor. I said, "I feel dirty doing this," as I Tutored for an Armageddon & proceeded to blow up all the lands. Yay!
Nyxbloom Ancient is like Panharmonicon, where generally youre spending your turn to get it down, and then hoping it survives to your next turn. Not a hard and fast rule of course, but. Also Yawg's Bargain lets you draw at ANY point. Including on your opponents' turns.
The biggest clue for Smothering Tithe was that it got new waifu artwork Also, White needs the mana ramp it provides just to keep up, which is something a non-mtg player wouldnt know
In regards to the Chaos Orb story, that is an unconfirmed urban legend, nobody has ever confirmed it actually happened. HOWEVER, it is so prevalent and widespread of a story(as a kid at my LGS in the 90s I myself heard it being told), that Wizards of the Coast printed a tribute card to it in one of their silly parody sets, Unglued, called Chaos Confetti, which does exactly that.
As a new mtg player I love playing along with y’all and getting really surprised at what’s banned or not, like imo black lotus is so much worse then something like nether void.
one thing to realize with a 0-cost spell like black lotus, is that there are a ton of cards that let you play cards from your graveyard. so you could use the lotus to cast one of those cards, then repeatedly cast the 0-cost black lotus for a ton if not infinite mana. those sorts of cards also tend to be banned lol
@@kirbywithlegs98 you can still make infinite mana with less expensive cards too, just takes a little more set up and know how. Definitely lots of ways to go infinite in magic
@@OOMTG yes its why some people run simular spells in eldrazi since alot of the big named titans have the same effect as blightsteal, honestly the reosn bs sucks is the "dies to doomblade" argument
it affects everyone *who didnt know this card was in the game* armaggedon, but all my creatures tap for mana nether void, but my spells cant be countered or dont need to be cast
I play blue, almost exclusively, my answer to Armageddon is to let is to let is resolve. Usually people play it to bait a counter spell, I find it more fun to let it resolve. After that, the other 2 players focus on them instead of me, while I rebuild my land base.
38:30 I actually played against a pure Stax deck with Augustine as the commander and the deck's whole design was to lock other players out of the game. Winter's Orb, Blind Obedience, Rule of Law, Eidolon of Rhetoric, Torpor Orb, etc. It was brutal.
Maybe you should have mentioned the card Chaos Confetti after bringing up that story thta supposedly happened at a tournament with Chaos Orb. Great show btw!
Worth noting that Nyxbloom Ancient not only dies to doomblade but also disenchant lol Also green has generic on the stop protection like Royal Treatment and what-not. One mana green spells that say "target creature gets hexproof until end of turn."
35:20 Fall of thran in a saga deck like tom bombadil can actually be really fun, because it can slow the game down for a turn or two, stop green landramp players, and you can still try to squeeze out value by getting free new enchantments. DOnt play it in stuff like anikthea tho
FYI, Silence is mostly used to protect yourself while you're comboing off, not to steal someone's turn. I mean, you *can* but that's just griefing. Also most of the ban list makes no sense, I really think most of these should be unbanned.
@@HobGungan the point is to bait the counter. they have to counter silence or they lose for sure, and they can't save it for the spell you actually need to resolve.
What's not said about Armageddon is the strategy where you hold your land count at 4, letting your opponent play 2-3 more lands, then blowing them up and dropping a fresh land with a stacked hand.
Curious if anyone knows why Necropotence is still in the format whilst Yawgmoth's Bargain isnt legal? I would think Sheoldred didnt cause the banning of Bargain (didnt bother to check dates when Bargain was banned).
35:27 i have a player in my playgroup who has a deck that runs multiple mass land destruction spells. The commander is velomachus lorehold and hes the only creature in the deck. He allows you to cast something for free from the top few cards of your library and it can easily function without needing lands once hes out. That is a strategy im ok with mld for. Still sucks when it happens but i know the game will end soon
humm, there's a lot of protection in green, in the form of hexproof and sometime indestructible, like heroic intervention and all the weaker version of it
For sure, but I'd still say it's tied for second worst with black. Green offers essentially one form of protection through hexproof (I guess fogs too?) Similarly to black with recursion. whereas white and blue have several options and styles of cards to keep things safe.
Maybe they talked about the meanikg of world enchantment, if you are curious it means that there can only be one world enchantment at the board at the same time, like a weather condition on a pokemon match, its and old concept of magic that nowadays it doesnt even come up in games.
@@Jotama_Prinkar oh cool. Magic had old school Yugioh field spells. Were they power crept and that’s why they aren’t played or where they always kinda gimmicky?
Its more of an outdated gimmick we still have enchantments but not like thoose, its like easier game design, and some enchantments still work for only opponents or all players, so its easier to understand
@@Jotama_Prinkar I do know what world enchantments are, thanks for explaining for anyone who doesn’t know. I just like hearing how different people explain niche mechanics
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Some argue there are cards more powerful than cards in the power nine, such as sol ring and mana crypt being about as good as (maybe better than) moxen, and timetwister being the worst of the 9. Like don't get me wrong, these cards are busted, but it is hard to prove what the best cards are. I think this justifies the supposed title for most powerful 9 since it will be up to debate since objectively power is hard to measure. They are famous though, and powerful, and all from early magic, and power 9 sounds rad as hell
@samb6539 yeah, Lotus, Recall, and Time Walk are objectively the best of the best. But moxens are on a similar power level, maybe slightly better, to Sol Ring and Mana Crypt and Timetwister is sometimes better and sometimes worse than Wheel of Fortune.
MLD is NOT a problem if you have a plan beyond that. We don't want 3 hour games. Destroy all lands, and then finish the game quickly. Maybe it's a mass reanimation like cosmic intervention. Maybe it's a heroic intervention to keep it all around. Just finish us off, don't drag the game.
I can agree with that. The problem with a lot of people who do MLD is that they DON'T have a plan and things drag. But if you clear the lands and nuke me that's not really any different than any other finisher combo which is fine imo
Mass Milling is just as bad as mass land destruction. Both remove resources from a player. if you rule zero mass land destruction then you need to do the same for mass milling.
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I wish videos like these would translate magic cards to yugioh examples. Like Black Lotus -> imagine it's a creature that can be played from your hand as a special summon. You can then sacrifice it to bring out any creature from your hand, extra deck, or cast trap cards directly without setting them face down. Ignoring all conditions. Now tell me if it's banned.
I tried to when I could come up with relevant examples. But even in the case you gave, that effect would just about be a prerequisite for any archetype as a starter right now. For example, Kashmir Unicorn special summons itself, then adds a card to special summon another. I don't think that really lines up to Lotus
Like it or not (as a modern player i don‘t) commander IS the current flag ship of mtg. Denying that is dellusional Edit: that being said, i still agree that videos like this should be made format neutral if possible. But that is just my opinion.
100 dollars for a 100 card deck seems reasonable imo. Coming from yugioh, pokemon, and vanguard I've had to deal with games where a single card could be up to 100 bucks and you'd need 3/4 of them.
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Karakas basically invalidates the entire format, so it's ban makes total sense.
In a 100 card singleton format like Canadian Highlander it's an absolute house for the reasons listed, bouncing both ally and enemy legends for an insanely low cost can be backbreaking.
Canlander for life
"Thats a high manna cost"
My guy north of 8 manna we arent paying manna we doing crimes!!
That's a good way to describe it lmao
I run an avacyn, angel of hope in a couple decks and NEVER have i paid 8 its either free or 3 cost to get it out we all about crimes in the game
Aw, no "You/Your opponent can't even" for Void Winnower. It's a bit beaten to death, but I still like the joke.
I have failed you
@@OOMTG Hardly! Just a mild disappoint. Good video.
Seeing nether void now just reminds me of sharpie cube. "Whenever a player plays a spell, counter it."
bargain is banned but necropotence isn't, would be funny to show him both
CGB played "which is banned" with a Hearthstone guests and that was one of the pairs
Tbh I don’t understand why it was banned whereas necro wasn’t. Is it because of the graveyard synergy?
@@laurentrobitaille2204 bargain gives you the card immediately, where necro requires you to pay then wait until your end step to get the cards.
With bargain, you cam just churn through your deck all in one turn.
@@laurentrobitaille2204 Because necropotence doesn't have "Pay 1 life: Draw a card" written on it. That is a much more powerful line of text.
@@laurentrobitaille2204 if you destroy necropetence before player reach end of turn, necropotence is a net loss of life without benefits.
You can't do this with bargain, if it enters the board, you will be able to draw in response to a destroy effect (but for krosan grip, but if you are expecting it , you could still activate draws before conceding priority), Griselbrand is banned for similar reason.
Step 1: Omniscience.
Step 2: Armageddon.
Step 3: Start New Game.
Step 1: show and tell
Proceed rest of steps on same turn
Oh God I pulled iona from a pack and ran it once in Commander back when that set was new and never again. I just wanted to show off some new shit i pulled but wasn't ready for the instant panic that swept the table
41:07 in regards to Nyxbloom Ancient, the card is fine on its own. Yes triple mana is insane, but it doesn’t win you the game on its own. You still need spells to profit from it. In a normal game, you slam it down turn 5-6, but you’re tapped out so you have to wait a full rotation before being able to use it. So in that sense, it’s a big meatball that gives you an insane advantage, but not enough to win the game outright
In summary, it has a similar issue to Omniscience. It costs a lot and requires you to have more cards in hand to do anything with it. Except with Omniscience, you don't have to wait a turn cycle.
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Algo brought me here
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Calling Time Walk ugly is fightin' words.
Oh I more meant the frame of the card. The art itself is fine, but the old card frames are ROUGH imo
@@OOMTG THEMS FIGHTIN WORDS
The real sin here is the printing quality. Colors got faded real bad.
the old border does look bad digitally they look amazing in person it doesnt translate well
his read on rhystic was insane, he really got the “should probably be but not banned”
Nailed it lol
Black lotus, sells for "truly thousands of dollars"? Understatment of the year. :p
wtb black lotus $ 5k any offers? Will buy in bulk :D
"...you benefit and all your opponents just suffer"
This man figured out Azorius without ever playing MTG. Incredible.
Some cards aren't banned because they draw a BIG target on their controller's face, Blightsteel Colossus basically tells everyone else at the table "you need to kill me now or I'll pick you off one at a time."
That doesn't matter one on one, but at a table with three other people people will dogpile on them, with a spell like Armageddon, that MIGHT NOT be with their decks, but IRL instead.
I'm sure you can imagine Yagmoth's Bargain, & Sheoldred The Apocalypse, you actually GAIN one life for each card you draw & you have all the cards you WANT in your hand.
Nothing is more haunting than you casting a spell and three other people directly staring at you and asking “You gonna pay the 1” in unison.
I do love when other players get in on asking lol
The Chaos Orb story is the backstory for the card Chaos Confetti from the Unglued expansion, which basically let's you do exactly what the player in the story did.
At the beginning of my turn I had the only creature on the battlefield - Liesa, Shroud of Dusk and I drew a Demonic Tutor. I said, "I feel dirty doing this," as I Tutored for an Armageddon & proceeded to blow up all the lands. Yay!
you have amageddon in your deck, don't feel bad, you had the option by choice :)
Nyxbloom Ancient is like Panharmonicon, where generally youre spending your turn to get it down, and then hoping it survives to your next turn. Not a hard and fast rule of course, but.
Also Yawg's Bargain lets you draw at ANY point. Including on your opponents' turns.
yep basically you can draw until you have a response to what the opponent is doing
The biggest clue for Smothering Tithe was that it got new waifu artwork
Also, White needs the mana ramp it provides just to keep up, which is something a non-mtg player wouldnt know
Love the content, keep diversifying!
Symmetrical effects are fair right? The stax player deliberately chosing effects so you arent effected at all. Riiiiight....
Why would you fast forward through the world enchantment tangent?! I wanted to hear that!
Love the vibes of your podcast.
In regards to the Chaos Orb story, that is an unconfirmed urban legend, nobody has ever confirmed it actually happened. HOWEVER, it is so prevalent and widespread of a story(as a kid at my LGS in the 90s I myself heard it being told), that Wizards of the Coast printed a tribute card to it in one of their silly parody sets, Unglued, called Chaos Confetti, which does exactly that.
Yes, I posted the statement by Mark rosewater about it on screen while I talked about it.
@@OOMTG oh lol I listen to videos like this while I work with audio only so had no idea you were including notes lol
I figured aha hope you had a good shift!
He said the kid got disqualified, but in the version I heard, the judge ruled that it was a legal play and the kid won the tournament and the money.
As a new mtg player I love playing along with y’all and getting really surprised at what’s banned or not, like imo black lotus is so much worse then something like nether void.
one thing to realize with a 0-cost spell like black lotus, is that there are a ton of cards that let you play cards from your graveyard. so you could use the lotus to cast one of those cards, then repeatedly cast the 0-cost black lotus for a ton if not infinite mana. those sorts of cards also tend to be banned lol
@@AStandsForFrench I didn’t even think of that lol, infinite mana shouldn’t be that easy.
@@kirbywithlegs98 you can still make infinite mana with less expensive cards too, just takes a little more set up and know how. Definitely lots of ways to go infinite in magic
28:32 funny you say "there be people trying to revive it" given you can respond to the trigger it has to shuffle itself with a reanimator spell
Lmaoo really? That's actually hilarious 😂
@@OOMTG yes its why some people run simular spells in eldrazi since alot of the big named titans have the same effect as blightsteal, honestly the reosn bs sucks is the "dies to doomblade" argument
There's no trigger with Blightsteel Colossus' shuffle ability so it cannot be reanimated.
in respone to it moving zones i reanimate it? idk i forgot blightsteal is a replacement not a trigger like every single other "shuffle this" card dumb
It also doesn't die to doom blade in most scenarios.
"If it affects everyone.... its fair right?"
You'd think that, but most of the time, you'd be wrong unfortunately.
Turns out the choice of when it starts to affect everyone is important lol
it affects everyone *who didnt know this card was in the game*
armaggedon, but all my creatures tap for mana
nether void, but my spells cant be countered or dont need to be cast
These are fun, seeing what seems busted in context with other games
I think it's interesting that some cards' power immediately translate and others seem less clear
I play blue, almost exclusively, my answer to Armageddon is to let is to let is resolve.
Usually people play it to bait a counter spell, I find it more fun to let it resolve. After that, the other 2 players focus on them instead of me, while I rebuild my land base.
green is the second best color at protecting your permanents after white.
I'd say blue is second, then theres an argument for either black or green. Red definitely last tho
Black will likely sacrifice their own creature and then resurrect it after just to deny exile cards
Anime smothering tithe is peak
Super dope, well edited. First time seeing the channel.
I nearly shit myself when you posted Black Lotus then I went a second time when he didn't know what it was!
Funny how big something can be in a community and how people outside of it can sometimes have no idea it exists lol
38:30 I actually played against a pure Stax deck with Augustine as the commander and the deck's whole design was to lock other players out of the game. Winter's Orb, Blind Obedience, Rule of Law, Eidolon of Rhetoric, Torpor Orb, etc. It was brutal.
Maybe you should have mentioned the card Chaos Confetti after bringing up that story thta supposedly happened at a tournament with Chaos Orb. Great show btw!
I only found out about confetti afterwards unfortunately aha
@@OOMTG Flavor text: "And you thought that was just an urban legend."
I assumed Karakus was banned mostly for ETB commanders, honestly didn't even consider that it doesn't have to be your legendary. Free bounce is wild.
Crazy how powerful such a simple ability is when you can do it once each turn lol
"In theory its fantastic, but they probably have an answer to it" not if you cheat him out turn 4 :)
Worth noting that Nyxbloom Ancient not only dies to doomblade but also disenchant lol
Also green has generic on the stop protection like Royal Treatment and what-not. One mana green spells that say "target creature gets hexproof until end of turn."
35:20 Fall of thran in a saga deck like tom bombadil can actually be really fun, because it can slow the game down for a turn or two, stop green landramp players, and you can still try to squeeze out value by getting free new enchantments. DOnt play it in stuff like anikthea tho
Intro gave me a smile :)
Mr playing a counter spell on my own counter spell:
Only just getting into MTG UA-camrs. You guys are entertaining and you deserve more subs for sure, so have mine
FYI, Silence is mostly used to protect yourself while you're comboing off, not to steal someone's turn.
I mean, you *can* but that's just griefing.
Also most of the ban list makes no sense, I really think most of these should be unbanned.
And it can still be Counterspelled because it explicitly states that spells cast before it resolves are unaffected.
@@HobGungan the point is to bait the counter. they have to counter silence or they lose for sure, and they can't save it for the spell you actually need to resolve.
Blightsteel Colossus will forever be my enemy!
To be fair, it IS cool as hell
I love these videos I would love to see vanta make a commender deck and play against you
"What is this?" Truly iconic.
What's not said about Armageddon is the strategy where you hold your land count at 4, letting your opponent play 2-3 more lands, then blowing them up and dropping a fresh land with a stacked hand.
Curious if anyone knows why Necropotence is still in the format whilst Yawgmoth's Bargain isnt legal?
I would think Sheoldred didnt cause the banning of Bargain (didnt bother to check dates when Bargain was banned).
you should've pointed out Painter's Servant could combo with Iona
world enchantments are exactly like field spells. only one world enchant can be on the table at a time and a new one entering destroys the old one.
35:27 i have a player in my playgroup who has a deck that runs multiple mass land destruction spells. The commander is velomachus lorehold and hes the only creature in the deck. He allows you to cast something for free from the top few cards of your library and it can easily function without needing lands once hes out. That is a strategy im ok with mld for. Still sucks when it happens but i know the game will end soon
32:12 What card are you talking about here?
Okay I want to hear the Magic history about World Enchantments now. If you still have the footage can you please post it.
Iona was banned the same day Painter's Servant was unbanned.
Justice for homegirl Braids I want her unbanned
humm, there's a lot of protection in green, in the form of hexproof and sometime indestructible, like heroic intervention and all the weaker version of it
For sure, but I'd still say it's tied for second worst with black. Green offers essentially one form of protection through hexproof (I guess fogs too?) Similarly to black with recursion. whereas white and blue have several options and styles of cards to keep things safe.
Flip jin and Omni and Satoru and blightsteel are my top 2 combos
Disgusting. I love it lmao
14:25 I wanted to hear the tangent 😭
This. I play Yugioh, not Magic but I really love hearing other people gush about their game
Maybe they talked about the meanikg of world enchantment, if you are curious it means that there can only be one world enchantment at the board at the same time, like a weather condition on a pokemon match, its and old concept of magic that nowadays it doesnt even come up in games.
@@Jotama_Prinkar oh cool. Magic had old school Yugioh field spells. Were they power crept and that’s why they aren’t played or where they always kinda gimmicky?
Its more of an outdated gimmick we still have enchantments but not like thoose, its like easier game design, and some enchantments still work for only opponents or all players, so its easier to understand
@@Jotama_Prinkar I do know what world enchantments are, thanks for explaining for anyone who doesn’t know. I just like hearing how different people explain niche mechanics
The awkward moment when I found a great condition holo Rhystic study from when I was 14. I used to think it was crap so I never played with it.
a tragedy in 2 sentences
Sorry that I couldn’t play today.
I was “Out of Mana” so I couldn’t cast anything.
On one hand I'm sad we miss out on the World Enchantment derail but on the other it's already an hour long video so I get cutting it
At one point I'm sure I'll make some kind of video on mechanics over time lol
I think Omniscience does exist in Yugioh already. Spell Economics?
The Nyxbloom would be totally fine, if mana burn was still a thing.
In a in a morph deck it's brutal
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TYPE 3= all common/all uncommon/all rare/all mythic.
TYPE 4= all white border/all black border/all silver border/all gold border.
Should show him city in a bottle. 😂
Ahh I know this video is gonna be crazy when black lotus is the first card
5:09 - I don't think there is any "supposedly" about the Power 9 especially where Lotus is concerned. The cards are busted plain and simple.
Some argue there are cards more powerful than cards in the power nine, such as sol ring and mana crypt being about as good as (maybe better than) moxen, and timetwister being the worst of the 9. Like don't get me wrong, these cards are busted, but it is hard to prove what the best cards are. I think this justifies the supposed title for most powerful 9 since it will be up to debate since objectively power is hard to measure. They are famous though, and powerful, and all from early magic, and power 9 sounds rad as hell
@samb6539 yeah, Lotus, Recall, and Time Walk are objectively the best of the best. But moxens are on a similar power level, maybe slightly better, to Sol Ring and Mana Crypt and Timetwister is sometimes better and sometimes worse than Wheel of Fortune.
Shockingly no avacyn or ulamog
MLD is NOT a problem if you have a plan beyond that. We don't want 3 hour games. Destroy all lands, and then finish the game quickly. Maybe it's a mass reanimation like cosmic intervention. Maybe it's a heroic intervention to keep it all around. Just finish us off, don't drag the game.
I can agree with that. The problem with a lot of people who do MLD is that they DON'T have a plan and things drag. But if you clear the lands and nuke me that's not really any different than any other finisher combo which is fine imo
Belbe's Portal a Blightsteel Titan
nice video, but it would be much better if you show the reprinted version of cards like Black Lotus to not confuse everyone with old wordings.
ohh that's a really good idea actually. Thanks for the suggestion!
46:30 of course you'd quit the game,you couldn't cast anything anyway even if you wanted ^^
omniscience 10 mana
omniscience with high tide, six mana
Technically infect is an alternate loss condition
A way to lose your friends
I think you havent give him an idea of just how easy it is to draw 20 cards in magic show him Windfall and Wheel of fortunes 😂
Mass Milling is just as bad as mass land destruction. Both remove resources from a player. if you rule zero mass land destruction then you need to do the same for mass milling.
We tend to avoid any effect that has you milling ridiculous numbers at a time at our table. 4 or 5 cards, sure. Half your deck from one card? No no
the difference is that up until the moment you mill someone out, they still have the same amount of agency
Aw, talking about salt inducing cards for commander and not showing Erayo.
Do cards cheated out by jhoriha of the gitu get around nether void
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The Great Aurora
Sway The Stars
Statis
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Tortment of Hellfire
Enter The Infinite
Goblin Game
Cheaty Face
Teferi's Protection
Too bad the commander version of black lotus is now banned in Commander ...
Where are you getting sheoldred for $140? Everywhere I look it's $60-80
Canadian conversion. Last I checked was a mo th ago idk if it dropped much
lol if you had to buy black lotus from wotc instead of the secondary market i bet they'd have had no issue with "we dont want it to look expensive"
WOTC is not associated with the commander rules commission. There is no monetary benefit to them
Give us the tangent!!!
It was just a history of world enchantments aha
green doesnt protect itself?
Rhystic Study really should be banned
Rhystic study is banned (in my dreams at least)
We had a game last night where all 3 other players opened with it. I was so tilted lmao
Idk man, as a Blue player, losing to biorhythm is my fault (snorts Simic copium).
You should have shown Nadu lol
We did in the previous episode:)
Genuinely VantaJay acknowledging my existence in the intro and Out Of Mana being chill with it got me to sub lol
Sending love friend. Be who you are :)
I wish videos like these would translate magic cards to yugioh examples.
Like Black Lotus -> imagine it's a creature that can be played from your hand as a special summon.
You can then sacrifice it to bring out any creature from your hand, extra deck, or cast trap cards directly without setting them face down. Ignoring all conditions.
Now tell me if it's banned.
I tried to when I could come up with relevant examples. But even in the case you gave, that effect would just about be a prerequisite for any archetype as a starter right now. For example, Kashmir Unicorn special summons itself, then adds a card to special summon another. I don't think that really lines up to Lotus
@@OOMTGliterally Live/Evil Twin’s most basic play
Are you going to pay the 1?
Amazing
Are you paying the one?
Yes yes yes!!
commander shouldnt represent magic
And yet, here we are
Commander doesn't actually represent Magic the gathering. If it did, we would have more Commander boosters.
@JayCalkins-lj6it my brother in christ. What exactly do you think the commander precons attatched to every set including MH3 are?
Like it or not (as a modern player i don‘t) commander IS the current flag ship of mtg. Denying that is dellusional
Edit: that being said, i still agree that videos like this should be made format neutral if possible. But that is just my opinion.
It’s the most played format, cope harder
"cheap format" when most commander decks cost $100+
100 dollars for a 100 card deck seems reasonable imo. Coming from yugioh, pokemon, and vanguard I've had to deal with games where a single card could be up to 100 bucks and you'd need 3/4 of them.
5:29 and now it's banned too! weeee