My dad was a tool grinder. He would keep his files cleaned, oiled, and wrapped in felt. He would remove the handles so it wouldn't rust under them. Most of his files are older than me (62) and still sharp as new. Thank you Joe. Your the best teacher on the net.
I was taught to keep files separate from each other, either by wrapping them in old newsprint or cloth. The toolmaker said that the quickest way to dull them was to place them together in a drawer, as few things are hard enough to damage them except other files. The best file holders I have found are the fiberglass woven tubing used for insulating electrical motor leads. They come in various sizes, and do a great job.
I use clear vinyl tubing. Heat it with a hair dryer or heat gun, squash it to fit the file, and let it cool. Added bonus, I can see when I put away a file that isn't properly cleaned, which shames me into cleaning it.
Haha, I knew the last bit of visible seam at the beginning wasn’t gonna survive. By “slept on it” you meant, “I saw it off camera, and that wasn’t going to fly”. I’m always so impressed with your attention to detail. The pursuit of Pie-fection.
It was on the rear bottom of the casting and nobody would ever see it, but if it bothers you, its gotta go. Never compromise. You'll regret it forever.
I have that exact same Colton's No 10 file card, I inherited it from my father after he died he few years back. I wish I could find another one, mine is missing most of its bristles after 30+ years he used it. All I can find is those crappy wooden ones. Looking good, great video as always Joe! 👍👍
I like your approach to machining.That .016 “ was unavoidable but,you already know that.We are getting a break from the heat and drought in central Kentucky.Unfortunately,in the eastern part of the state,they are suffering from severe flooding.If you ever travel through that area,you will understand why.Rain comes down the mountains with a vengeance and,destroys everything in it’s path.
These mini build video are brilliant. He is sneakily teaching so many subjects at one time. How to read prints correctly, translate relationships in dimension, establish order of ops, problem solving, and on and on.
Good Morning Joe, from one of your UK subscribers. There may be differences between UK English and US English but the language of engineering is universal, 0.125" is 1/8" all over the world and even translates to 3.175mm . I enjoy your videos because they're clear, concise and educational. I have been a model engineer over 40 years and still learn things especially from you. The internet is universal and you have subscribers all over the world, not just US and UK, just as UK video creators have subscribers from the US especially as you have mentioned Keith Appleton in your steam engine builds. Keep up the excellent work and enjoyment you get and deliver. 131K subscribers should tell you something. Regards Steve
I've just recently found your channel and have been enjoying your videos. I spent about 40 years as an aerospace mechanical designer without any hands-on machining experience, but I had to have some understanding of how to machine a part. I actually had to tell one machinist how to make a feature on a stamp for cutting rubber parts. I was a senior designer that had to determine datums and tolerances, specifying them per ASME Y14.5. There was the occasional part that required stopping and really considering how the part could be machined. Most were pretty straightforward. Some were extremely complicated and some and no parallel or perpendicular surfaces. I had to have an understanding of many manufacturing processes; milling, lathes, soldering, dip braze, chemical milling (etching) shim stock, EDM, spin welding, etc. What I never had a strong grasp of was how a part would be held to be fully machined. Watching you really helps. So, many thanks.
We love to watch and learn from you in sunny South Africa as well. It was a nice 23°C (73.4°F for you Yankees out there) in my neck of the woods. Bear in mind this is winter time for us. Keep safe, and hydrated, Joe.
I'm in the UK, I grew up with imperial, and still think in thous if it's under 1mm or inches over 1" . We still use stones for people's weight ( a stone is 14 lbs) and miles for distances, MPH etc. At the pub it's a pint of beer, spirits used to be 1/6 of a gill, now it's 35 ml. Nice job on this piece!
Dont forget feet and inches for a person's height. Oh and miles per gallon even if fuel is bought in litres. Best of both worlds, real units where they matter and no fractions when machining.😉
Joe, You have the best videos on YT showing proper process/procedure/setup- If a person wants to learn machining, if you watch Joe Pi's vids, you'll see & learn things that you won't see anywhere else. Thanks! P.S. - Stop sending that hot Texas air up into Missouri...... I'm ready for a frost. 😆😂
Awesome - I'm never disappointed by the number of gems in every episode. I also really enjoyed the use complementary height parallels preloaded by the parallel spreader spring..... The taller inner parallel supporting the workpiece and the lower outer parallels working as spacers and chip catchers. Thanks Joe...... 👍😎👍
Joe are you involved in education? You would make a super apprentice master, your explanations so clear. You remind me of my apprentice master 70 years ago here in the U.K. a man I remember fondly and owe much of my abilities to him
Thank you. Once upon a time I had that responsibility. I've trained many apprentices and formerly taught "Design for Manufacturability " to 3rd year mechanical engineering students from the University of Texas. It was part of a coop program.
Nice to see the filing as it gives me a better understanding of the amount of work that goes into those pieces, which BTW are looking great. Thank you, Cheers.
At first, I was like... Do I want to watch another model video? but I'm glad I did. I really appreciate how you went through the process of locating the features. As a newbie, it's almost never obvious how to hold or locate things! Thanks Joe!
Shapers are such a neat and overlooked tool. I'd worked in shops and been a hobbyist and it took me until maybe 35 years old or so before I ever learned what they were. Now I'm fascinated by their simple brilliance. Awesome work as always, love the videos they keep my mind full of new ideas!
Joe; I am a 62 year old Machinist, and the real thing. CNC, manuals, off the knobs prior to DRO's.. If it go round , up and down or sideways... I can likely run it. I just love your video's, please keep them coming. Mark
Hi from the UK Joe, I can cope with metric but prefer to work in Imperial, but all our Imperial threads are given in fractional inches if not using BA (yes, I know, BA is not really Imperial but rather a metric increment rounded up to the nearest 0.001"). I appreciate your efforts to include the rest of the world. Thank you.
As some one who is probably half your age. If you can't speak at least 2 measuring languages. What Are the 3 Systems of Measurements? The three standard systems of measurements are the International System of Units (SI) units, the British Imperial System, and the US Customary System. Of these, the International System of Units(SI) units are prominently used.
@@Bibibosh Hi, you are probably right about my age; 3 systems of measurements? That would be fractions and decimal ( depending on the units marked on whatever I have picked up to use) and eyeball. Nothing else really matters if you can measure consistently and don't have to use a computer. 😂😂😂
@@chrisarmstrong8198 Looks like he will have to plug a drill access hole in the lower foot of the casting & re sandblast . Will be interesting to see how he tackles it .
I'm gonna have a p.h.d. from the Joe Pie institute of machining by the time he's through with these models! I just can't stop watching. I enjoy watching as always sir!
Great video, Joe. Thanks for the file storage tips. It's always interesting to see how other folks deal with their tool "mess". 😉 BTW, most of us older UK guys are "ambidextrous" with imperial and metric units.
If you think about it, almost all "imperial" lathe work and milling are done in decimal fractions of an inch, so it's really the same as metric - a working unit, and decimal fractions thereof. Drills and threads are another matter…
I couldn't figure out how you were going to hold that. I know you've done it before but nests are a brilliant method. Going to write that on the workshop wall so I don't forget again. Excellent video again Joe. Thanks Neil !
This video may be one of my last on the computer I have used for years. Its on its way out. I getting a custom built monster and new software for my productions to produce better quality vid's for you all. I'm glad you stopped by.
@@joepie221 My pleasure bud. I see you got hacked in a way. No damage here but I sent you an email. Just another lowlife needing attention. I miss the days of DOS. I have a 20+year old laptop that still works as it was new. I still use it on occasion to add channels to some of the older truck to truck radios. They are not aware of the net or want to be eh, LOL.
Super work Joe, I like your approach and explanation, your methods and ways make excellent reference points for when a less experience person is challenged with a new setup. Enjoyed very much, cheers!
Hi Joe, greetings from New Zealand. A very interesting project though I’d never make such a interesting machine like this the thought and process that you go through can be used for many different applications.
By the way Joe, I would love to see you make a special case for that thermometer of yours. Perhaps a plunge type dial indicator. Then it can join that toggle type dial indicator (clock watch) on the wall.
The nests were resting on parallels. Making sure the nests are made parallel, the back face of the vertical ways will be also, albeit the cast surface only but I guess that’s good enough!
@@janstaines5989 i get the nest have machined surfaces, but the index to casting. The pocket as probably bigger than the features in the casting and the casting could be not flat, square and/or parallel. So there is bound to be some.play. How does one mitigate that?
Yeah that definitely happened to me a couple times putting the hole in the wrong location out of tolerance. I guess we all should make mistakes because we can learn from them. I know to check placement of hole or to use a edge finder when using a manual mill and finding hole locations. Thanks for your cool videos Im going to highschool for manual and CNC machinist school for a two year program I guess I will miss my shop teachers when i leave you know. Thanks for teaching me things on UA-cam even my teacher taught me little tricks that you don't find in the books. I'm happy to say this will be my second year of machining school.
well reading through the comments it seems that I might have started a bit of a bonfire with my comment about the metric system not just being in the UK, here in Oz we converted to metric in 1974, so at 57 I can do both imperial (standard) and metric, and for the life of me I still can't work out a persons height in metric, I still refer to somebody in feet-inches, if I'm on the lathe I do all fine measurements in thousandths of an inch even if every other measurement is metric. I did my apprenticeship as a fitter and turner 37 years ago here in Melbourne and one of the first things we were told was to ask questions, that let the others know that we were trying to learn not just what to do but why it was done that way, like many other comments here it seems were all still learning from what and how you do things, so a big thanks for that.
Joe, if that vertical cut +.005 on the part is +005 from finsh dimension, snd you hhave it held, why not just drop the end mill down and finish that surface?
This is so informative as a designer. It really makes me think much harder about my approach to designing a part for manufacture. It's all too easy to set datums arbitrarily with references to idealistic geographic constraints within a 3D model but at the end of the day someone has to actually make the part in the real world where that modelled perfection is nowhere as simple to achieve!
DFM is a lost art. I used to teach it for 3rd year mech engineering University of Texas students doing their Coop internship at the company I worked for. They always left wide eyed.
Thank you for all of the time and effort to bring us this knowledge, Joe. I know I echo many here, but I still feel it is only right to say thank you, and that I appreciate it. I know how miserable it can be in the shop when the outside temps soar and maintain themselves in the triple digits. 🥵 I love that you show us the 'how', but more importantly I appreciate you teaching us the 'why'. I accept when the 'why' is 'because that's how I do it', but when you go into the details of other ways to skin that particular cat...knowledge like that is invaluable to novices and hobbyists like myself and so many here. Thanks again, Joe! Hope y'all are getting some rain and a reprieve from the onslaught that this summer has been. ABSOLUTELY BRUTAL!
Great job with some good ideas on holding and preparing for later operations. A quick question - when you machined the very first surface, you could have machined the bottom surface as well with an end mill with no need to flip it, or at least partialy machine it so when you flip it, you can dial the part of the surface you machined for a perfect 90 degree between them, am I correct?
Joe, I really appreciate your videos ,.....always learn something new. I just built this Crank Shaper kit and I noticed you referenced the pully boss .125" from the casting surface rather than from the pully arm boss surface as called out on the print. I nearly did this until I noticed the dimension line for the .125 dimension goes to the other boss surface, not the casting surface. Hope this helps others when machining the frame bosses.
@@joepie221 My print were pretty clean. I had to check it a few times because I thought it strange that they referenced the other bosses rather than the casting surface. I wonder if they changed the prints? I can send you a screen shot of my prints for comparison. What is the best way to do that?
I just looked at your video at :39. The print is different than mine. On mine the arrow points to the surface line of the other bosses rather than the casting surface. They even changed the line style on my print it is a centerline type line rather than a solid line. They did change the print apparently. I remember verifying the dimensions by looking at the other part clearances controlled by the boss relative heights and with a pully length of 1.000" and the distance of the pully arm at .130" from the mounting pad to the inside of the shaft support, the .125" relative to the other bosses made sense to me (with .130" - .125"=.005" clearance) If I would have used the casting surface as the .125" height, reference I would have seen a .036" clearance of the pully (requiring washers to make a proper fit). Hope this makes sense. I wonder if they changed the other dimensions I mentioned here to make everything fit?. I guess the caution to others is to look carefully at the print they received to get this proper
Question regarding flycutting vs multiple passes with an endmill. I can see that a flycut is more accurate especially when you have a well-aligned machine (trammed, etc.) But if your machine is not well aligned, would multiple passes produce a surface that is more parallel to the base of the vise? Also, as a design engineer, I find your thoughtful approach to secondary ops on a casting very useful: I am learning how to make my drawings better. Thanks!
The multiple pass scenario will have the same error as the larger flycutter pass, but on a much smaller scale, so I would have to say YES, the smaller cutter with multiple passes may give you a better flatter surface vs a dished finish from a flycutter.
i feel like you missed pointing out visually or with calipers to the achieved 2nd side accuracy (as to result from the casting template halves alignment) - as predicted and then realized with the lower end through bore.
@23:18 Joe for your information the metric system is used today in most of the world, with the exception of the USA, Burma and Liberia, so the USA is actually in the minority as far as the metric system is concerned.
@@toddbrock239 bet the rocket ,lander etc were all metric as are all your motor cars they have been that way for years good old metric with its base 10
Joe U need an air condition! That’s a selfish request so u can spend more time in ur shop and we can see more content regardless of your environmental conditions!!!🤣 Nice job as always!!!
Yet another amazing video on another amazing model for the collection, a shaper is certainly the quintessential period machine tool and mesmerising to watch operate. Thanks for the metric conversions for us Guys over in Britain although it is a little strange from a historical stand point an American converting thousands of an inch in to a french invented metric unit for guys in the uk after all it was Sir Joseph Whitworth of Manchester who originally decimalised the inch some time ago now
The use of nesting to initially locate the machine was great. I would have never though of that and now will in the future. After years of struggling with files and carbide burs loading up (especially with aluminum) I started using tap magic with EP-XTRA before using them and my loading up issue was gone along with the file card. Give it a try.
My dad was a tool grinder. He would keep his files cleaned, oiled, and wrapped in felt. He would remove the handles so it wouldn't rust under them. Most of his files are older than me (62) and still sharp as new. Thank you Joe. Your the best teacher on the net.
its amazing how fast sharp high carbon steel looses its edge in regular atmosphere.
Think of all that precious time he could've saved by buying a new set.
I was taught to keep files separate from each other, either by wrapping them in old newsprint or cloth. The toolmaker said that the quickest way to dull them was to place them together in a drawer, as few things are hard enough to damage them except other files. The best file holders I have found are the fiberglass woven tubing used for insulating electrical motor leads. They come in various sizes, and do a great job.
I use clear vinyl tubing. Heat it with a hair dryer or heat gun, squash it to fit the file, and let it cool. Added bonus, I can see when I put away a file that isn't properly cleaned, which shames me into cleaning it.
I don't toss them around, I know that chips the teeth.
Love these mini machine builds. There's a wealth of info on work holding that never disappoints.
I like how you show where and how to start on each parts. Great job as usual Joe.
Time for some insulation and an AC unit? Outstanding work on the 12,000 pound casting - must be a 20,000 pound Kurt...
Haha, I knew the last bit of visible seam at the beginning wasn’t gonna survive. By “slept on it” you meant, “I saw it off camera, and that wasn’t going to fly”. I’m always so impressed with your attention to detail. The pursuit of Pie-fection.
It was on the rear bottom of the casting and nobody would ever see it, but if it bothers you, its gotta go. Never compromise. You'll regret it forever.
I have that exact same Colton's No 10 file card, I inherited it from my father after he died he few years back. I wish I could find another one, mine is missing most of its bristles after 30+ years he used it. All I can find is those crappy wooden ones.
Looking good, great video as always Joe! 👍👍
I like your approach to machining.That .016 “ was unavoidable but,you already know that.We are getting a break from the heat and drought in central Kentucky.Unfortunately,in the eastern part of the state,they are suffering from severe flooding.If you ever travel through that area,you will understand why.Rain comes down the mountains with a vengeance and,destroys everything in it’s path.
I have a lot of respect for those who use freedom units. The metric system is so simple, it takes a while lot of willpower to avoid it
These mini build video are brilliant. He is sneakily teaching so many subjects at one time. How to read prints correctly, translate relationships in dimension, establish order of ops, problem solving, and on and on.
Good Morning Joe,
from one of your UK subscribers. There may be differences between UK English and US English but the language of engineering is universal, 0.125" is 1/8" all over the world and even translates to 3.175mm .
I enjoy your videos because they're clear, concise and educational. I have been a model engineer over 40 years and still learn things especially from you.
The internet is universal and you have subscribers all over the world, not just US and UK, just as UK video creators have subscribers from the US especially as you have mentioned Keith Appleton in your steam engine builds.
Keep up the excellent work and enjoyment you get and deliver.
131K subscribers should tell you something.
Regards
Steve
If you watch a Joe Pie video and don't learn something, you weren't paying attention! Thanks for all the knowledge transfer!
I appreciate the observation. Thank you.
Thanks Joe. I appreciate how well you think out the order of operations.
Thanks. Stare at the part for a while. It will come to you.
I've just recently found your channel and have been enjoying your videos. I spent about 40 years as an aerospace mechanical designer without any hands-on machining experience, but I had to have some understanding of how to machine a part. I actually had to tell one machinist how to make a feature on a stamp for cutting rubber parts.
I was a senior designer that had to determine datums and tolerances, specifying them per ASME Y14.5.
There was the occasional part that required stopping and really considering how the part could be machined. Most were pretty straightforward. Some were extremely complicated and some and no parallel or perpendicular surfaces. I had to have an understanding of many manufacturing processes; milling, lathes, soldering, dip braze, chemical milling (etching) shim stock, EDM, spin welding, etc.
What I never had a strong grasp of was how a part would be held to be fully machined. Watching you really helps. So, many thanks.
Thank you very much.
We love to watch and learn from you in sunny South Africa as well.
It was a nice 23°C (73.4°F for you Yankees out there) in my neck of the woods. Bear in mind this is winter time for us.
Keep safe, and hydrated, Joe.
Thanks for checking in.
I'm in the UK, I grew up with imperial, and still think in thous if it's under 1mm or inches over 1" . We still use stones for people's weight ( a stone is 14 lbs) and miles for distances, MPH etc. At the pub it's a pint of beer, spirits used to be 1/6 of a gill, now it's 35 ml. Nice job on this piece!
Dont forget feet and inches for a person's height. Oh and miles per gallon even if fuel is bought in litres. Best of both worlds, real units where they matter and no fractions when machining.😉
I see metric as just a different language. A part will never be a different size regardless how you measure it.
Joe, You have the best videos on YT showing proper process/procedure/setup- If a person wants to learn machining, if you watch Joe Pi's vids, you'll see & learn things that you won't see anywhere else.
Thanks!
P.S. - Stop sending that hot Texas air up into Missouri...... I'm ready for a frost. 😆😂
Thanks for the compliment. I'll take some rain if ya have extra.
Awesome - I'm never disappointed by the number of gems in every episode. I also really enjoyed the use complementary height parallels preloaded by the parallel spreader spring..... The taller inner parallel supporting the workpiece and the lower outer parallels working as spacers and chip catchers. Thanks Joe...... 👍😎👍
Thats a great production setup. Makes cleaning extremely quick and easy.
Joe are you involved in education? You would make a super apprentice master, your explanations so clear. You remind me of my apprentice master 70 years ago here in the U.K. a man I remember fondly and owe much of my abilities to him
Thank you. Once upon a time I had that responsibility. I've trained many apprentices and formerly taught "Design for Manufacturability " to 3rd year mechanical engineering students from the University of Texas. It was part of a coop program.
Nice to see the filing as it gives me a better understanding of the amount of work that goes into those pieces, which BTW are looking great. Thank you, Cheers.
More mastery on display. Thanks for another lesson for the indicator mounted to the Indicol!
At first, I was like... Do I want to watch another model video? but I'm glad I did. I really appreciate how you went through the process of locating the features. As a newbie, it's almost never obvious how to hold or locate things! Thanks Joe!
Glad it was helpful!
There’s nothing better than to learn from the best teachers around, you belong in a classroom passing all these skills to the next generation.
Thank you very much. I'm hoping these videos do just that.
This is his classroom. He will keep learning cause he is still working, making me a lot smarter.
Shapers are such a neat and overlooked tool. I'd worked in shops and been a hobbyist and it took me until maybe 35 years old or so before I ever learned what they were. Now I'm fascinated by their simple brilliance. Awesome work as always, love the videos they keep my mind full of new ideas!
We love you here in the UK Joe!
We know quality when we see it.
I've met a bunch of people from the UK in the last 2 years as I travel. You guys are great. Thanks for being such a big part of my channel.
Joe;
I am a 62 year old Machinist, and the real thing.
CNC, manuals, off the knobs prior to DRO's..
If it go round , up and down or sideways... I can likely run it.
I just love your video's, please keep them coming.
Mark
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Thanks Joe, lots of good tips today on “order of operations”.
Another enjoyable and enlightening video, even though i am not an engineer, i can relate a lot of this to my model railroading. thanks from NZ
This reminds me to never skip ahead to the last few episodes of a series - you’ll miss a tonne of important detail.
Hi from the UK Joe, I can cope with metric but prefer to work in Imperial, but all our Imperial threads are given in fractional inches if not using BA (yes, I know, BA is not really Imperial but rather a metric increment rounded up to the nearest 0.001"). I appreciate your efforts to include the rest of the world. Thank you.
As some one who is probably half your age. If you can't speak at least 2 measuring languages.
What Are the 3 Systems of Measurements? The three standard systems of measurements are the International System of Units (SI) units, the British Imperial System, and the US Customary System. Of these, the International System of Units(SI) units are prominently used.
@@Bibibosh Hi, you are probably right about my age; 3 systems of measurements? That would be fractions and decimal ( depending on the units marked on whatever I have picked up to use) and eyeball. Nothing else really matters if you can measure consistently and don't have to use a computer. 😂😂😂
@@andybelcher1767 agreed:) keep safe
Great work Joe, love watching your expertise in machining,. From New Zealand.
Thanks for more great shop gems! Also - tall vise jaws added to my ever increasing list of tools to make.
Make a pair of wide ones too while you're at it.
Again a wealth of handy tips. Thank you Joe!
Hey Joe , i hope you have a plan for drilling the side door hinge pivot holes . They look to be on a lower plane than the rest of the casting .
Well-spotted, Max. I guess Joe could mill off the cast hinge nobs and make new ones with studs at the rear to attach them to the shaper body.
He discussed the difficulties that the hinge bosses presented in the first video, so I'd guess he has a plan.
@@chrisarmstrong8198 Looks like he will have to plug a drill access hole in the lower foot of the casting & re sandblast . Will be interesting to see how he tackles it .
Nicely expedited. Thanks Joe!
I'm gonna have a p.h.d. from the Joe Pie institute of machining by the time he's through with these models! I just can't stop watching. I enjoy watching as always sir!
Thanks. I'm enjoying it too.
Always willing to watch a craftsman at work, Hi from Scotland
Nice work Joe. Thanks for the message and reminder to “Think Ahead”.
Its important on a part like this.
You are very inspiring and you make it look so easy. Thank you!!!
Great video, Joe. Thanks for the file storage tips. It's always interesting to see how other folks deal with their tool "mess". 😉
BTW, most of us older UK guys are "ambidextrous" with imperial and metric units.
Yes! They are just number systems after all. I move freely between both.
@@StuartsShed Me too. My lathe is imperial, and my mill is metric. Sometimes I'm thankful for my split personality! 🤣
If you think about it, almost all "imperial" lathe work and milling are done in decimal fractions of an inch, so it's really the same as metric - a working unit, and decimal fractions thereof.
Drills and threads are another matter…
You make it look simple , it`s in the fore thought .
Thanks. I've had some practice. :)
I couldn't figure out how you were going to hold that. I know you've done it before but nests are a brilliant method. Going to write that on the workshop wall so I don't forget again.
Excellent video again Joe.
Thanks Neil !
you should look into 3d printed fixtures. Very fast and cheap for low production.
Nothing better than a new computer to catch up wit an old friend. Lookin good from here Joe !
This video may be one of my last on the computer I have used for years. Its on its way out. I getting a custom built monster and new software for my productions to produce better quality vid's for you all. I'm glad you stopped by.
@@joepie221 My pleasure bud. I see you got hacked in a way. No damage here but I sent you an email. Just another lowlife needing attention. I miss the days of DOS. I have a 20+year old laptop that still works as it was new. I still use it on occasion to add channels to some of the older truck to truck radios. They are not aware of the net or want to be eh, LOL.
Super work Joe, I like your approach and explanation, your methods and ways make excellent reference points for when a less experience person is challenged with a new setup. Enjoyed very much, cheers!
Thank you very much!
Ahh, I recognise that freshly-bushed part! :)
There’s just something so satisfying about fly cuts
I agree.
Nice tip using the two parallels , that’s one I’ll have to remember. Thanks
I learn something every time I watch one of your videos. Thanks!
Where is the 12,000 Pound Machine???
Hi Joe, greetings from New Zealand. A very interesting project though I’d never make such a interesting machine like this the thought and process that you go through can be used for many different applications.
you may find the gingery casting series interesting. Usable small shop tools from casting
By the way Joe, I would love to see you make a special case for that thermometer of yours. Perhaps a plunge type dial indicator. Then it can join that toggle type dial indicator (clock watch) on the wall.
I thought a dial caliper would look good.
How did you establish the correct angle for the first cut. I saw no indication, so just throw it in the vice a eye it? If so why was this ok?
The nests were resting on parallels. Making sure the nests are made parallel, the back face of the vertical ways will be also, albeit the cast surface only but I guess that’s good enough!
@@janstaines5989 i get the nest have machined surfaces, but the index to casting. The pocket as probably bigger than the features in the casting and the casting could be not flat, square and/or parallel. So there is bound to be some.play. How does one mitigate that?
Thanks for the video Joe.
Yeah that definitely happened to me a couple times putting the hole in the wrong location out of tolerance. I guess we all should make mistakes because we can learn from them. I know to check placement of hole or to use a edge finder when using a manual mill and finding hole locations. Thanks for your cool videos Im going to highschool for manual and CNC machinist school for a two year program I guess I will miss my shop teachers when i leave you know. Thanks for teaching me things on UA-cam even my teacher taught me little tricks that you don't find in the books. I'm happy to say this will be my second year of machining school.
Good luck. You'll have the opportunity to learn every day. Never get stale and embrace every opportunity.
Looking good Joe, can’t wait for more
well reading through the comments it seems that I might have started a bit of a bonfire with my comment about the metric system not just being in the UK, here in Oz we converted to metric in 1974, so at 57 I can do both imperial (standard) and metric, and for the life of me I still can't work out a persons height in metric, I still refer to somebody in feet-inches, if I'm on the lathe I do all fine measurements in thousandths of an inch even if every other measurement is metric. I did my apprenticeship as a fitter and turner 37 years ago here in Melbourne and one of the first things we were told was to ask questions, that let the others know that we were trying to learn not just what to do but why it was done that way, like many other comments here it seems were all still learning from what and how you do things, so a big thanks for that.
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Joe, if that vertical cut +.005 on the part is +005 from finsh dimension, snd you hhave it held, why not just drop the end mill down and finish that surface?
Great job Joe
This is so informative as a designer. It really makes me think much harder about my approach to designing a part for manufacture. It's all too easy to set datums arbitrarily with references to idealistic geographic constraints within a 3D model but at the end of the day someone has to actually make the part in the real world where that modelled perfection is nowhere as simple to achieve!
DFM is a lost art. I used to teach it for 3rd year mech engineering University of Texas students doing their Coop internship at the company I worked for. They always left wide eyed.
You're a poet and didn't know it! 🙂 very enjoyable video, as always Joe. Thankyou!
Nice job, Joe. You're going to have a really nice "little" machine shop there.
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what type of file cleaner/ card do you use to clean out your files
Nice one mate, newish fan from Australia over here.
It’s taking shape.. looks great
I see what ya did there. Good one.
Thank you for all of the time and effort to bring us this knowledge, Joe. I know I echo many here, but I still feel it is only right to say thank you, and that I appreciate it. I know how miserable it can be in the shop when the outside temps soar and maintain themselves in the triple digits. 🥵
I love that you show us the 'how', but more importantly I appreciate you teaching us the 'why'. I accept when the 'why' is 'because that's how I do it', but when you go into the details of other ways to skin that particular cat...knowledge like that is invaluable to novices and hobbyists like myself and so many here.
Thanks again, Joe! Hope y'all are getting some rain and a reprieve from the onslaught that this summer has been. ABSOLUTELY BRUTAL!
From Northern BC Canada, I melt at 72. LOL.
Enjoyed….shop gems are to study how you nest parts in the vise….great discussion/build
Thanks Chuck.
Great job with some good ideas on holding and preparing for later operations.
A quick question - when you machined the very first surface, you could have machined the bottom surface as well with an end mill with no need to flip it, or at least partialy machine it so when you flip it, you can dial the part of the surface you machined for a perfect 90 degree between them, am I correct?
Hey Joe! greetings from Argentina and thank you for your teacherous and awesome job!
My pleasure.
Excellent work !
Thank you!
Joe,
I really appreciate your videos ,.....always learn something new.
I just built this Crank Shaper kit and I noticed you referenced the pully boss .125" from the casting surface rather than from the pully arm boss surface as called out on the print. I nearly did this until I noticed the dimension line for the .125 dimension goes to the other boss surface, not the casting surface. Hope this helps others when machining the frame bosses.
I'll have to double check that. Thanks for calling it to my attention. Were your prints old and blue like mine?
At :39 in, you can clearly see the boss dimensions are given from the cast surface. You got my heart racing there.
@@joepie221 My print were pretty clean. I had to check it a few times because I thought it strange that they referenced the other bosses rather than the casting surface. I wonder if they changed the prints? I can send you a screen shot of my prints for comparison. What is the best way to do that?
I just looked at your video at :39. The print is different than mine. On mine the arrow points to the surface line of the other bosses rather than the casting surface. They even changed the line style on my print it is a centerline type line rather than a solid line. They did change the print apparently. I remember verifying the dimensions by looking at the other part clearances controlled by the boss relative heights and with a pully length of 1.000" and the distance of the pully arm at .130" from the mounting pad to the inside of the shaft support, the .125" relative to the other bosses made sense to me (with .130" - .125"=.005" clearance) If I would have used the casting surface as the .125" height, reference I would have seen a .036" clearance of the pully (requiring washers to make a proper fit). Hope this makes sense. I wonder if they changed the other dimensions I mentioned here to make everything fit?. I guess the caution to others is to look carefully at the print they received to get this proper
Great job Buddy and great tips
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Very nice work, good tips on using reference surfaces
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Question regarding flycutting vs multiple passes with an endmill. I can see that a flycut is more accurate especially when you have a well-aligned machine (trammed, etc.) But if your machine is not well aligned, would multiple passes produce a surface that is more parallel to the base of the vise? Also, as a design engineer, I find your thoughtful approach to secondary ops on a casting very useful: I am learning how to make my drawings better. Thanks!
I think that falls under the category of “ I cut it twice & it’s still too short”
The multiple pass scenario will have the same error as the larger flycutter pass, but on a much smaller scale, so I would have to say YES, the smaller cutter with multiple passes may give you a better flatter surface vs a dished finish from a flycutter.
@@joepie221 Thanks Joe!
Some more great techniques. Nice work Joe :)
A true master machinist at work, Looks great Joe.
Thanks. I wasn't into the shaper build initially, but its got my attention now.
Thanks Joe!
Njce work looking forward to the next one.
Its being shot now. Its starting to come together nicely.
i feel like you missed pointing out visually or with calipers to the achieved 2nd side accuracy (as to result from the casting template halves alignment) - as predicted and then realized with the lower end through bore.
Another good video Joe Pie! Your work is always spot on. Keep up the great work my friend.
Thanks, will do!
What's the deal with the click-bate title? A great video none-the-less!
Fantastic progress!
Thanks. I'm trying to do all the cast part first this time.
Looking good.Thank you.
You bet
Hi Joe, why did you use round files on the parting lines instead of flat files?
For me it's real easy to drop an edge of a flat file and gouge a part. With a round file not so much.
I guess you could call it a filing system !
Too funny.😁
Thats awesome.
@23:18 Joe for your information the metric system is used today in most of the world, with the exception of the USA, Burma and Liberia, so the USA is actually in the minority as far as the metric system is concerned.
Two kinds of countries my friend those that have been to the moon and those that haven't. This a joke about the metric system!
@@toddbrock239 bet the rocket ,lander etc were all metric as are all your motor cars they have been that way for years good old metric with its base 10
@@toddbrock239 haha! Funny, but turns out NASA and all science has been conducted in metric since at least the 40s…🤣👌
@@stuarthardy4626 still funny as a base joke. I still have metric taps and reamers I've never used!
@@supertramp6011 I used to tell that to my Canadian friends they always came back with the whole space shuttle cargo bay arm thing
I like the filing and initial setup
Leap of faith. It ended well.
Joe
U need an air condition! That’s a selfish request so u can spend more time in ur shop and we can see more content regardless of your environmental conditions!!!🤣
Nice job as always!!!
I wouldn't know what to do with myself with an A/C'd shop.
@@joepie221 ur hardcore Joe!!! Keep up the great work! Learning in every episode over here!
Yet another amazing video on another amazing model for the collection, a shaper is certainly the quintessential period machine tool and mesmerising to watch operate.
Thanks for the metric conversions for us
Guys over in Britain although it is a little strange from a historical stand point an American converting thousands of an inch in to a french invented metric unit for guys in the uk after all it was Sir Joseph Whitworth of Manchester who originally decimalised the inch some time ago now
Always amazing, very nice work! Thank you for sharing. Ed Hicks
good video JOE
Thanks Joe
In the future are you thinking about setting up your pmr machines on a base board with the steam engine running a line shaft to make a display?
I'd like to take it all the way if I can. Yes.
The use of nesting to initially locate the machine was great. I would have never though of that and now will in the future. After years of struggling with files and carbide burs loading up (especially with aluminum) I started using tap magic with EP-XTRA before using them and my loading up issue was gone along with the file card. Give it a try.
I've heard chalk also helps keep a file clean.
@@joepie221 I have tried that and it helps a little but the tap magic is magic.
@@joepie221 Larry Potterfield, founder of MidwayUSA shows the use of chalk on his files in some of his videos.
Great video Joe, thank you
Glad you enjoyed it
Love your work joe!
Did I miss the casting of this? It has a really nice smooth finish to it.
*watching from the UK
It is a purchased kit, comes with raw castings.
it's from a kit
Some good ideas!
They worked. :)
👍🏽 Looking good as always
Thanks 👍