Ben as actual reliable sources, Ben can be annoying but he actually is very knowledgeable when it comes to behind the scenes stuff. Ace just tries to talk louder than everyone and thinks that makes him right. Ace is just riding Lamar and Sib’s coat tails
Ace looks like he is being interrogated by the FBI during the entire Pred discussion, good on Trei for putting his feet to the fire so to speak and pushing him on the explanation for some of these things.
@dominique9054 braindead... It's a discussion. Ace is a close friend of Pred, and was acting like nothing OpTic has done was suspicious and pointing towards more serious problems with pred than mental health. He was acting like a fed and wasnt able to explain around why OpTic have done what they've done.
@@poorchris the fact you feel entitled for an explanation from anyone shows you’re braindead af. No matter who it is, no body has to tell u shit about their personal life. That’s why it’s their personal life lil bro.
Jesus ace is preds PR manager I guess? Helping him look at houses? Get outta here lol. I get not wanting to throw dirt on his name, but something happened. It’s okay, shit happens. It’s y’all’s job as pretty much CDL journalists to let people know what happened. Not spin. Ace just spins for his people. Spins for Lamar. Spins for pred. If this was snoopy he’d be on his ass about this
Ace should of not had been on this pod. It’s too direct to him - he does not want to speculate on a lad he is very close to about his personal life that the public have no obligation to know about, harsh topic.
The most confusing part is the "playing at shottzy's house the night before" part. Did AG try to get ant to give him money, or bet with him, or suggest that they bet on matches or something. Ant is a pretty clean cut kinda guy no drinking, or smoking, etc. Perhaps it was that and AG confided in Ant about how poorly his financial status was due to betting and Ant (rightfully) went to hecz to get him help. Idk what else it could be. Look pred is very young, he's across the world from his family figuring things out on his own, and he just so happens to make 10x more than everyone his age so he has a lot of opportunities to make mistakes. That doesn't excuse the mistakes, but we see a lot of celebs/child actors make these exact same mistakes. If the only way to get AG help was to snitch on him to his family and essentially force him back home I get it, equally if hecz wanted to send a message cutting all ties, dropping pred, and moving on is a good message/life lesson for pred (even if it's not permanent and is just a test). The weird part for me is nobody mentioning his name, and no pro's publicly conversing with him on Twitter. Even the illey situation which is one that the league would have DEMANDED nobody speak on was spoken on on social medias, so it is a little worrisome that it's literal radio silence from optic/pros/etc
It almost makes me more sure he didn’t do anything crazy and still has the respect of the org and players to keep it quiet until he wants to talk about it in depth.
Also the literal only player on the market NOTICABLY better than draz at that position was available and they passed. I personally think faze is budgeting and faze wanted to make a change but basically couldn't bc of how much it would cost to get it done. That would explain their depressed looking player cams and nonchalant attitude towards the season thus far
@@mkwsoxfansometimes it’s not about visible skill. Arcitys eas never the best mechanically or the highest slayer in the lobby every game but he really seemed to know how to enable Simp and Abezy to go off. The old faze comms he had it calm and collected sounding precise and elite now it’s just cell yelling in a foreign language. They won 2/3 seasons playing with Alec their worst placing was 2nd at champs for the year and they haven’t even been to a champs GF since dropping him. I know it’s cliche to mention a glue player but Arcitys literally was the glue player for Simp and Abe
What is really a red flag is he got on stream to address the situation. And proceeded to just filibusterd and dodge important questions. The whole time
Nah he answered the really important ones, he doesn’t have a CDL ban and didn’t bet on any of his matches. Not having a CDL ban speaks volumes and the fact he’s even talking about coming back shows me it’s gotta be more personal rather than some legal issue or something
Miami snd struggles is really shocking to me, they were lights out in that game mode last season. I honestly think they'll figure it out tho, I like their roster. Reeal is insane.
Never watched this show before - is the guy with the shit mic Pred's lawyer or agent? What is this guy doing acting like OpTic didn't hit the emergency eject button? At least the former pro in here seems to be tethered to reality.
6:12 yeah this is soo weird for optic to do. And they aren’t letting up, I can’t even think of what would cause a org to do this, because if it was JUST a mental health issues do you really think optic would handle the situation similar to this? That would be beyond fucked up for a guy going through some mental hard ships. To just get cut and ghosted.
I hope we get the answers one day. Only thing i can reliably think of is that whatever he did was bad enough that OpTic didnt want to go public to tarnish their or Pred’s brand. Knowing how Hecz is I think he had the hard convo with AG and said the best way out for him was to go home and take time to grow and let him walk for free since he will still have a super high stock whenever he returns
8:33 but optic could of just said that! Just said we can’t talk about it! that Alone would of dismissed a lot of the silly rumors. You gotta control the narrative
The most aggravating part of this is that it happened a month or two late. Optic could’ve locked up hydra/scrap if Pred wasn’t so selfish. If he admitted his problems sooner and took the help then the CDL could look a lot different today. Now optics best option is to try and pry simp/abezy/drazah away from faze
That Is unfortunate timing, but as an optic fan I'm equally as disappointed that pred fit optic so perfectly and is now banished seemingly forever. 2 LAN victories in a year one being champs and now we're back to an Illey situation. This close to a stable winning roster for the first time since the dynasty and this happens.i wonder if he knew he could be replaced by hydra if he spoke up about it and tried to hide it instead 🥶
Optic would have said something like “Pred is struggling with personal issues at the moment and we have tried to help him but we have decided it’s best for him to leave’.
Rab says “I hear clay say this about his own teams and it rarely works” about one of the winningest players in CoD history who’s tied for the most world championships at 3
@ no Ima grown man who’s knows when someone is playing the devils advocate or other side because uhm is pred here to do? Nowhere once did I agree with ace I said you’re a weirdo for not watching ever before and insulting because you got this child’s mindset that’s not my issue 😂
Rab laughing when accuracys cousin is trying to patronise him "its understandable for you guys" LOOOL We get it you know pred bro 😂 and whys he staring us down like that in the camera, trying to look serious but looks like hes shat his pants tryna act cool 😅
Preds video/stream left people with more questions and more doubt, rather than answers. If this were me, i would have kept my silence or at least answer some of the doubts with conviction, yet still not answer fully (within the right guidelines) In my mind its quite simple - Either dont say anything, or put out a statement within correct lines until you are able to adress it fully. This whole situation is only putting a red flag on himself, in fact, the video/stream only made it worse imo. Anyhow, if the problems Pred has is sincere, i Pray for him. I want to be sure - but i cant, to many doubts and questions, and the video and stream did not help one bit.
I’ve watched Optic pretty closely this year. Here’s my take. Ant, Brandon and Kenny saw this slowly unfolding. Watching Pred spiral seemingly from a gambling problem .They weren’t able to help because he wasn’t ready to be helped. So the Optic boys had to make a hard decision before it poisoned the season.
Their demeanor in the last couple listen in podcasts makes a little more sense now. It sort of felt like pred in his own little world while the other 3 do the content for some episodes
Ace, dude, nobody can say if it's a bad move because the general public doesn't know the severity of what happened. If he gets vanned by the league then it doesn't "can't me back to haunt Optic". If he has a serious legal or financial issues that prevent him from playing then it doesn't haunt them. Maybe if you want people to speak on the issue they need to know the issue first. 🤦♂️ And don't tell me silence means nothing is going on. The league didn't really say anything about Huke or illey or any other issues. It's like people get shadow banned and the league doesn't talk about what happens behind the scenes.
Starting to think pred did something in shotzzys house. The way scump and crim acted when shotzzy brought up pred only makes me truly think one thing. If ya boy hits on your girl, your married friends would definitely be like wtf bro if you casually mention him .Whats way over gambling issues and worse than stealing. He must of took a pass at shottzys gf. Isn't that the thing you would expect optic to do all they have done? Even stealing from shotzzy probably wouldn't bring as strong as a response but maybe. Feels like a possibility imo who is the only person who can bring up pred in this scenario, ant We have all said none of this makes sense, this idea is the only one that fits every piece of the pie for me. The fast drop, the dislike. No one talking cause its shotzzy. A honest guy who's unusually loyal and good to all. They respect ant so they don't say it. Of course pred doesn't really want to say it.
Yeah, that would make sense considering the quick exit. The other theories have a scenario that happens over time where a sudden drop doesn't make sense. Dissociation because of gambling issues seems strange. But a betrayal like that towards a teammate is unforgivable
@ exactly what I was thinking when I first saw he was staying at his house before it happened then he got suddenly dropped I was thinking something had to happen like that 🤷♂️
my biggest guess is that he stole from ant or hit on his girl while at his house. Some guys would hit on any girl at any situation so this is possible. We don't really know pred like that but this is a scenario that would make optic and pros despise pred. More so because most pros really like ant
Optic made grand finals twice with Huke in MW2, I'm honestly appalled by the people that think Huke isn't a great pick up for these guys. Not only that but this specific game favors Hukes play style perfectly, and his chem with Shotzzy is so obvious. Optic will ATLEAST make it to grand finals this year, probably multiple times. Won't be surprised if they go back to back. I think everyone is blowing Faze struggles out of proportion, they are absolutley going to bounce back and be a fuckin problem sooner than later. I think Preds best option is C9, not only for him but the team. That trio was successful with Lamar Accuracy so with Attach being a little more slay heavy I believe they would be a problem, especially with Lamar coaching them.
Pred for Dylan, he'll nah!!!! Ace, I'm sure you try being BenJ! Dylan is a play maker, route taker, flanker knows how to slow the game down or to speed it up! Huke for the long run!
OpTic has had numerous situations from Maniac, to Gunless back in MW19 that have had to step away for addiction and/or mental health, and they stood in their corner, and shouted them out for the community to support them. The silence is telling. Everyone in the community knows Hector is the type of person that if you’re a friend, especially someone who won’t a ring for OpTic, he’d be there in their corner when they’re needed most. The fact not a single person has said anything, the fact that Shotzzy has unfollowed him considering how close they have been, to not a single pro commenting on his tweet, something definitely happened. Pair that with the fact that he dodged the gambling questions continuously, shows that gambling is definitely a part of it, and let’s be straight up, FanDuel is a sponsor of OpTic’s. So if FanDuel has an issue with him, that also can be a reason, but let’s make it absolutely clear.. mental health was not the main problem here.
You’re stating a lot of “facts” for someone who doesn’t know him personally or anything about the situation. Shotzyy still follows him in twitter, takes 2 seconds to press followers and find shotzyy, he didn’t “dodge” any questions he just simply doesn’t owe you anything and acting like pros aren’t speaking to him is wild when scrap was in discord with him while he was streaming
He clearly did something morally wrong to be cancelled like he has by Optic. Whether it’s something legal, or he got physical with somebody, not sure.. The whole “need to focus on my mental health” excuse is total BS. Pred wouldn’t be like the Voldemort of optic if he was truly just going through something
No matter what way I look at it. This still doesn't make any sense why they let Pred go just like that and never said anything about Pred getting dropped. Yes, we don't deserve to know everything but said something at least. I do believe there's more to this story but Optic will not tell us. I don't see Pred rejoining Optic after leaving Optic one month later.
OpTic is the type of org to let a player leave whenever they want and not hold them hostage. Hecz has done it many times before. So it’s not really a mistake letting him leave it’s the right thing to do as an org who cares about its players. BUT if FaZe gets Pred and drops Drazah that shit still gonna HURT 😅
I think Trey hit it right n the head for couple mins of this show. The fact optic and his team mates have ghosted him that really proves whatever he did is really terrible Don’t think he will ever play again
Calling it now pred will just go to c9 reunite With the old surge roster for kremp they will end up playing around him. I’m sure sib will step it which will prob make Mack not look as good as he is rn. And they will be a decent sleeper team. Sucks everything happened to pred wish the best for him and hope he get better. I would love a return to optic but I don’t know how his teammates feel. and im sure they tried to sweep everything under the rug because of their sponsors. as of roster changes go i love huke but OPTIC SIMP 2025 buy that man out worth every penny
I mean, using OpTic name to ask its fans for money and never giving them the money back could have been just too much disrespect to the OpTic brand and Hecz got him out. OptTic Hecz baby and Pred using its name to steel money from its most loyal followers would make sense that Hecz does something like this
Pred definitely did something personally scummy to someone in optic. Not gonna give that “shottzys girl” take seriously because there’s 0 proof right now, but it had to have been something like that where not a single person on optic likes him or cares to defend him anymore. If anyone thinks it’s gameplay related they’re trolling. Faze looks like complete shit gameplay wise but they know they have a championship roster and can figure it out as optic could have with pred if they liked him.
Optic is definitely doing damage control since they have a huge sponsor in prize picks and their player having a gambling addiction would be horrible PR especially with how many kids watch their stuff.
Ace is talking some wild stuff about where pred could land. If there is no personal issue there the only spot pred could land is C9 or maybe M8. Also about the salary pred would want maybe
Did you ever think maybe he had a bust up with the team . Maybe even a fright . I love AG but something as defo happened with the team green wall forever 💚
AG was staying with Ant the day before he got dropped. He insinuated he was waiting on a house. Gave off hints it was pretty large/nice. They had their jerseys on so Sunday? He was always going back to Australia during the break. He mentioned that multiple times.
guys... what are we talking about.... there is nothing they could not speek about... exept one thing... he was cheating, and talking about that would question everything, how could he do that without the others knowing and it would question the champs title... thats the only logic reason to be quiet about that situation ... optic india 2.0...
why does his team mates have to do a public tweet showing support?? How u know they aint done that behind closed doors??? All the time consumers want everything relaid to them and when its not they just run with speculation n talk about BS! These guys don't owe any1 an explanation for inhouse shit unless they want to
Would optic release him with some disgust so he can go earn money to pay the debt, cause he cannot earn outside the league or his wage, has his debt made him bust up with someone or has he arrived somewhere drunk and wreckless after a big blow out and disrespected some or one of the optics nearest & dearest, always shit happening with optic and their weekend activities, crazy times
Bro go get a $20-30 usb microphone OR don't participate in the podcast. Subjecting the listeners to a laptop mic week after week is ABSURD when walmart sells cheap microphoned that will improve your quality by 15x for $20
Ace be quiet bro tryna diss optic cause ur cousin got no props for helping during champs u don’t kno all info so jus let it play out acting like bro didn’t exist for a reason
Pred - unfortunate but it’s happened. I don’t see him back in the cdl C9 - they need to change there ARs they aren’t performing at all Faze - I think it’s time to change that team up they’ve been together a long time and they just aren’t playing well enough Toronto - the underdog, beans and Joed are fire together they will get a major I think LAT - so far I haven’t seen a super performance from them that’s wowed me. Unfortunately. They have potential BUT the games they have had are not convincing enough so far.
Ace role playing as Pred’s legal representative was entertaining
More so cringe. Man is unbelievable bias and doesn't even realise it.
he had the "my client is innocent your honor" face on from the start 0:55 lmfao
😂😂😂😂😂
Or hes idk his friend maybe?I know that sounds impossible apparently.
If there was Ace and Ben yap show...they would talk about one topic for 15 hours with no conclusions
I'll take Ben over ace 11 times out of 10 and I can't stand Ben
They are pretty clear of their own conclusions. They dont have answers but they have opinions
@shmeegab00pz i agree just something about Ace's voice that I just really hate 😂. I'll still watch just for the info though
Both flaunting their anonymous sources that they can't disclose, regarding topics they can't share but still brought up on a podcast for some reason
Ben as actual reliable sources, Ben can be annoying but he actually is very knowledgeable when it comes to behind the scenes stuff. Ace just tries to talk louder than everyone and thinks that makes him right. Ace is just riding Lamar and Sib’s coat tails
Ace looks like he is being interrogated by the FBI during the entire Pred discussion, good on Trei for putting his feet to the fire so to speak and pushing him on the explanation for some of these things.
He doesn’t owe you an explantation for shit
@dominique9054 braindead... It's a discussion. Ace is a close friend of Pred, and was acting like nothing OpTic has done was suspicious and pointing towards more serious problems with pred than mental health. He was acting like a fed and wasnt able to explain around why OpTic have done what they've done.
@@poorchris the fact you feel entitled for an explanation from anyone shows you’re braindead af. No matter who it is, no body has to tell u shit about their personal life. That’s why it’s their personal life lil bro.
@@poorchris you think just cause you’re a fan you deserve an explanation? He doesn’t know you lil bro
Jesus ace is preds PR manager I guess? Helping him look at houses? Get outta here lol. I get not wanting to throw dirt on his name, but something happened. It’s okay, shit happens. It’s y’all’s job as pretty much CDL journalists to let people know what happened. Not spin. Ace just spins for his people. Spins for Lamar. Spins for pred. If this was snoopy he’d be on his ass about this
Ace should of not had been on this pod. It’s too direct to him - he does not want to speculate on a lad he is very close to about his personal life that the public have no obligation to know about, harsh topic.
Nadeshot knows exactly what happened
Ofc course he does
This Ace guy is insufferable. Kudos to Trei for keeping things real and grounded. PR people are fucking annoying.
Pred just betted on the over under how many times his name will be mentioned in this podcast and lost his Dad’s home
Damn bruh xD
Would have allowed it if it was actually funny. You sound like a peon……
Rabs face when checking sibs stats got me laughing
In this episode of breaking point ace turns into the CDL ATTORNEY 😂😂😂
The most confusing part is the "playing at shottzy's house the night before" part. Did AG try to get ant to give him money, or bet with him, or suggest that they bet on matches or something. Ant is a pretty clean cut kinda guy no drinking, or smoking, etc. Perhaps it was that and AG confided in Ant about how poorly his financial status was due to betting and Ant (rightfully) went to hecz to get him help. Idk what else it could be. Look pred is very young, he's across the world from his family figuring things out on his own, and he just so happens to make 10x more than everyone his age so he has a lot of opportunities to make mistakes. That doesn't excuse the mistakes, but we see a lot of celebs/child actors make these exact same mistakes. If the only way to get AG help was to snitch on him to his family and essentially force him back home I get it, equally if hecz wanted to send a message cutting all ties, dropping pred, and moving on is a good message/life lesson for pred (even if it's not permanent and is just a test). The weird part for me is nobody mentioning his name, and no pro's publicly conversing with him on Twitter. Even the illey situation which is one that the league would have DEMANDED nobody speak on was spoken on on social medias, so it is a little worrisome that it's literal radio silence from optic/pros/etc
It almost makes me more sure he didn’t do anything crazy and still has the respect of the org and players to keep it quiet until he wants to talk about it in depth.
@CallMeKakarot-nu3lb I personally keep going back and forth between it being better than the rumors and it being much much worse than the rumors 😅
C9 needs to Move Sib to the main AR and Move Mack to flex and pick up Pred and have him and Kremp be the smg duo
This brotha knows BALL
Faze haven’t won champs since Cold War. Thats now so long ago. Have to make a change one trio. I’d keep 2 and change 2
Also the literal only player on the market NOTICABLY better than draz at that position was available and they passed. I personally think faze is budgeting and faze wanted to make a change but basically couldn't bc of how much it would cost to get it done. That would explain their depressed looking player cams and nonchalant attitude towards the season thus far
@@mkwsoxfansometimes it’s not about visible skill. Arcitys eas never the best mechanically or the highest slayer in the lobby every game but he really seemed to know how to enable Simp and Abezy to go off. The old faze comms he had it calm and collected sounding precise and elite now it’s just cell yelling in a foreign language. They won 2/3 seasons playing with Alec their worst placing was 2nd at champs for the year and they haven’t even been to a champs GF since dropping him. I know it’s cliche to mention a glue player but Arcitys literally was the glue player for Simp and Abe
What is really a red flag is he got on stream to address the situation. And proceeded to just filibusterd and dodge important questions. The whole time
Nah he answered the really important ones, he doesn’t have a CDL ban and didn’t bet on any of his matches. Not having a CDL ban speaks volumes and the fact he’s even talking about coming back shows me it’s gotta be more personal rather than some legal issue or something
Are my eyes deceiving me or does Trei have a bieber haircut
He kinda does
Miami snd struggles is really shocking to me, they were lights out in that game mode last season. I honestly think they'll figure it out tho, I like their roster. Reeal is insane.
Never watched this show before - is the guy with the shit mic Pred's lawyer or agent? What is this guy doing acting like OpTic didn't hit the emergency eject button? At least the former pro in here seems to be tethered to reality.
6:12 yeah this is soo weird for optic to do. And they aren’t letting up, I can’t even think of what would cause a org to do this, because if it was JUST a mental health issues do you really think optic would handle the situation similar to this? That would be beyond fucked up for a guy going through some mental hard ships. To just get cut and ghosted.
I hope we get the answers one day. Only thing i can reliably think of is that whatever he did was bad enough that OpTic didnt want to go public to tarnish their or Pred’s brand. Knowing how Hecz is I think he had the hard convo with AG and said the best way out for him was to go home and take time to grow and let him walk for free since he will still have a super high stock whenever he returns
🤑🤑🤑🤑
I knew you’d wake up looking like that Rab lol
8:33 but optic could of just said that! Just said we can’t talk about it! that Alone would of dismissed a lot of the silly rumors. You gotta control the narrative
The most aggravating part of this is that it happened a month or two late. Optic could’ve locked up hydra/scrap if Pred wasn’t so selfish. If he admitted his problems sooner and took the help then the CDL could look a lot different today. Now optics best option is to try and pry simp/abezy/drazah away from faze
That Is unfortunate timing, but as an optic fan I'm equally as disappointed that pred fit optic so perfectly and is now banished seemingly forever. 2 LAN victories in a year one being champs and now we're back to an Illey situation. This close to a stable winning roster for the first time since the dynasty and this happens.i wonder if he knew he could be replaced by hydra if he spoke up about it and tried to hide it instead 🥶
Optic would have said something like “Pred is struggling with personal issues at the moment and we have tried to help him but we have decided it’s best for him to leave’.
Ace trying to be all serious lmao
Rab says “I hear clay say this about his own teams and it rarely works” about one of the winningest players in CoD history who’s tied for the most world championships at 3
Dude in the bottom is something else lmao
You clearly never watched which is sad nobody and I mean nobody cares for your opinion brotha. They’re glad you wasted your time watching
@@CarioGreenwood Sorry, I didn't know his boyfriend was in the comments. "brotha"
@ no Ima grown man who’s knows when someone is playing the devils advocate or other side because uhm is pred here to do? Nowhere once did I agree with ace I said you’re a weirdo for not watching ever before and insulting because you got this child’s mindset that’s not my issue 😂
It’s absolutely non of your business is why they have not released the reason. Hope they never do. Worry about yourself
Rab laughing when accuracys cousin is trying to patronise him "its understandable for you guys" LOOOL
We get it you know pred bro 😂
and whys he staring us down like that in the camera, trying to look serious but looks like hes shat his pants tryna act cool 😅
Preds video/stream left people with more questions and more doubt, rather than answers. If this were me, i would have kept my silence or at least answer some of the doubts with conviction, yet still not answer fully (within the right guidelines) In my mind its quite simple - Either dont say anything, or put out a statement within correct lines until you are able to adress it fully. This whole situation is only putting a red flag on himself, in fact, the video/stream only made it worse imo. Anyhow, if the problems Pred has is sincere, i Pray for him. I want to be sure - but i cant, to many doubts and questions, and the video and stream did not help one bit.
Ace should be a politician 😂 the guy is waffling nonsense about the Pred situation 🙄
#JusticeForPred
accuracy cousins mic might be unbearable this is shit
I’ve watched Optic pretty closely this year. Here’s my take. Ant, Brandon and Kenny saw this slowly unfolding. Watching Pred spiral seemingly from a gambling problem .They weren’t able to help because he wasn’t ready to be helped. So the Optic boys had to make a hard decision before it poisoned the season.
Its been one week. Couldn't this have been done earlier so they could pick up a real fourth?
@@brendangilmartin4002pred just came back from eu didn’t he? And who else would’ve been available? It’s huke and huke only
Their demeanor in the last couple listen in podcasts makes a little more sense now. It sort of felt like pred in his own little world while the other 3 do the content for some episodes
Gwinn with a 1.5 in HP with almost 4k damage average????? I knew my man was frying but Damnnnn
ace either needs a good mic or dont show up that shit is ASS
Fitting for his level of talent as a podcaster
Ace, dude, nobody can say if it's a bad move because the general public doesn't know the severity of what happened. If he gets vanned by the league then it doesn't "can't me back to haunt Optic". If he has a serious legal or financial issues that prevent him from playing then it doesn't haunt them. Maybe if you want people to speak on the issue they need to know the issue first. 🤦♂️
And don't tell me silence means nothing is going on. The league didn't really say anything about Huke or illey or any other issues. It's like people get shadow banned and the league doesn't talk about what happens behind the scenes.
Starting to think pred did something in shotzzys house. The way scump and crim acted when shotzzy brought up pred only makes me truly think one thing. If ya boy hits on your girl, your married friends would definitely be like wtf bro if you casually mention him .Whats way over gambling issues and worse than stealing. He must of took a pass at shottzys gf. Isn't that the thing you would expect optic to do all they have done? Even stealing from shotzzy probably wouldn't bring as strong as a response but maybe. Feels like a possibility imo
who is the only person who can bring up pred in this scenario, ant
We have all said none of this makes sense, this idea is the only one that fits every piece of the pie for me. The fast drop, the dislike. No one talking cause its shotzzy. A honest guy who's unusually loyal and good to all. They respect ant so they don't say it. Of course pred doesn't really want to say it.
Yeah, that would make sense considering the quick exit. The other theories have a scenario that happens over time where a sudden drop doesn't make sense. Dissociation because of gambling issues seems strange. But a betrayal like that towards a teammate is unforgivable
I was thinking the same thing maybe he tried to make a pass at her or successfully did 🤷♂️ especially if he stayed at his house multiple times
@ exactly what I was thinking when I first saw he was staying at his house before it happened then he got suddenly dropped I was thinking something had to happen like that 🤷♂️
lmfao you losers will make shit up with absolutely 0 info or facts.
I mean if he did, it definitely was not successful. This theory does make a lot of sense though.
I think pred joins C9
Rab needs his flowers 💐 because he’s the best youtuber when it comes to CDL News 💯
This has to be about the 10th different location that Ace has done the show from
Yess lets go. So weird why no cod pro sends him good wishes, smth not adding up.
my biggest guess is that he stole from ant or hit on his girl while at his house. Some guys would hit on any girl at any situation so this is possible. We don't really know pred like that but this is a scenario that would make optic and pros despise pred. More so because most pros really like ant
@@Jackie_Fhan it aint about no girl
Optic made grand finals twice with Huke in MW2, I'm honestly appalled by the people that think Huke isn't a great pick up for these guys. Not only that but this specific game favors Hukes play style perfectly, and his chem with Shotzzy is so obvious. Optic will ATLEAST make it to grand finals this year, probably multiple times. Won't be surprised if they go back to back. I think everyone is blowing Faze struggles out of proportion, they are absolutley going to bounce back and be a fuckin problem sooner than later. I think Preds best option is C9, not only for him but the team. That trio was successful with Lamar Accuracy so with Attach being a little more slay heavy I believe they would be a problem, especially with Lamar coaching them.
Trei is fried. If pred has no CDL ban literally every SMG not on thrives is on lookout for their job
Dope check cmon
Ace trying have preds back so he can get his money he’s owed lmao
Imagine all of optic is implicated in throwing matches for major 4 and betting and pred is just an easy scapegoat .. lol
Does anyone remember slicker? He has some severe gambling addiction He was doin the exact thing DM’n fans for money
Pred for Dylan, he'll nah!!!!
Ace, I'm sure you try being BenJ!
Dylan is a play maker, route taker, flanker knows how to slow the game down or to speed it up!
Huke for the long run!
Huke for the long run lmao we saw how that worked in mw2
Lenvoy is always getting GUNNED and getting carried by the likes of Scrap and Hydra 😂😂😂 even Ghosty is way better than that NOOB
So far huke looking like dog water. I think he only good in practice
Sib gunna need to download Indeed if he keeps it up
Need a dope out of context, Rab mentioning "theres no minor in there which is unfortunate id say" lmao
OpTic has had numerous situations from Maniac, to Gunless back in MW19 that have had to step away for addiction and/or mental health, and they stood in their corner, and shouted them out for the community to support them. The silence is telling. Everyone in the community knows Hector is the type of person that if you’re a friend, especially someone who won’t a ring for OpTic, he’d be there in their corner when they’re needed most. The fact not a single person has said anything, the fact that Shotzzy has unfollowed him considering how close they have been, to not a single pro commenting on his tweet, something definitely happened. Pair that with the fact that he dodged the gambling questions continuously, shows that gambling is definitely a part of it, and let’s be straight up, FanDuel is a sponsor of OpTic’s. So if FanDuel has an issue with him, that also can be a reason, but let’s make it absolutely clear.. mental health was not the main problem here.
You’re stating a lot of “facts” for someone who doesn’t know him personally or anything about the situation.
Shotzyy still follows him in twitter, takes 2 seconds to press followers and find shotzyy, he didn’t “dodge” any questions he just simply doesn’t owe you anything and acting like pros aren’t speaking to him is wild when scrap was in discord with him while he was streaming
He clearly did something morally wrong to be cancelled like he has by Optic. Whether it’s something legal, or he got physical with somebody, not sure.. The whole “need to focus on my mental health” excuse is total BS. Pred wouldn’t be like the Voldemort of optic if he was truly just going through something
We need OpTic Simp at some point before he retires. If Faze don’t win or only win once this year I can see it happening.
No matter what way I look at it. This still doesn't make any sense why they let Pred go just like that and never said anything about Pred getting dropped. Yes, we don't deserve to know everything but said something at least. I do believe there's more to this story but Optic will not tell us. I don't see Pred rejoining Optic after leaving Optic one month later.
Optic ain't Winning a single major without LePred on the team 😂😂😂😢
this guy ace bro lmao
OpTic is the type of org to let a player leave whenever they want and not hold them hostage. Hecz has done it many times before. So it’s not really a mistake letting him leave it’s the right thing to do as an org who cares about its players. BUT if FaZe gets Pred and drops Drazah that shit still gonna HURT 😅
Sib and Kingabooty going band 4 band 🤣
I think Trey hit it right n the head for couple mins of this show. The fact optic and his team mates have ghosted him that really proves whatever he did is really terrible Don’t think he will ever play again
AceTheSpinDoctor
Calling it now pred will just go to c9 reunite With the old surge roster for kremp they will end up playing around him. I’m sure sib will step it which will prob make Mack not look as good as he is rn. And they will be a decent sleeper team. Sucks everything happened to pred wish the best for him and hope he get better. I would love a return to optic but I don’t know how his teammates feel. and im sure they tried to sweep everything under the rug because of their sponsors. as of roster changes go i love huke but OPTIC SIMP 2025 buy that man out worth every penny
I mean, using OpTic name to ask its fans for money and never giving them the money back could have been just too much disrespect to the OpTic brand and Hecz got him out.
OptTic Hecz baby and Pred using its name to steel money from its most loyal followers would make sense that Hecz does something like this
Pred asked for more money on his contract and Optic Didn't budge
this is the only possible reason for optic cutting ties and nobody saying a word yet.
Literally not true lol
Can’t change a contract after signing it lol he’s on 500+k already
Pred definitely did something personally scummy to someone in optic. Not gonna give that “shottzys girl” take seriously because there’s 0 proof right now, but it had to have been something like that where not a single person on optic likes him or cares to defend him anymore. If anyone thinks it’s gameplay related they’re trolling. Faze looks like complete shit gameplay wise but they know they have a championship roster and can figure it out as optic could have with pred if they liked him.
Pray for Pred.
Praying for a gambling addict is criminal😂
Why is everyone saying no one on optic follows Pred anymore? Took all of 6 seconds to find Formal, shotzzy, dashy, crimsix and methodz 😂
2 questions, does ace know what happened? And can trei please spill the beans on what happened with Wuskinz and skrapz on London?
optic have handled this terribly. they r going to regret letting him go
#ShameOnOptic
Pred too C9 For Kremp you heard it hear first
Ace has amazing posture 😬
Pred could fit in Carolinas team… move gwinn to the flex role for vivid and pred as a sub duo with tjhaly or vice versa with tj and gwinn.
Optic is definitely doing damage control since they have a huge sponsor in prize picks and their player having a gambling addiction would be horrible PR especially with how many kids watch their stuff.
Some people are bad on the mw2 engine and faze happens to be bad ( compared to how they used to be) and it’s not changing
Ace is talking some wild stuff about where pred could land. If there is no personal issue there the only spot pred could land is C9 or maybe M8. Also about the salary pred would want maybe
BO6 Falcons=MW3 Breach
Did you ever think maybe he had a bust up with the team . Maybe even a fright . I love AG but something as defo happened with the team green wall forever 💚
I’m surprised prey has a gambling problem considering its haram
I see pred at Carolina all day. him and gwinn!!!!
As soon as Gwinn passes trei for winningest player carolina is gonna be ass
Not if TeeJ has anything to say about that...
wait they still have Lucid and APG up on the site modeling merch....just saying
Probably has something to do with sexual assault, r*pe, or talking to minors if they cut him off like that
Pepsi>Coke
He’s clearly been either stealing or borrowing money from memebers of optic to fund his addiction and they had enough.
Ace J Nissim Jesus christ
AG was staying with Ant the day before he got dropped. He insinuated he was waiting on a house. Gave off hints it was pretty large/nice. They had their jerseys on so Sunday? He was always going back to Australia during the break. He mentioned that multiple times.
Why is your intro song a rip off temu version of the flank. Nasty work
Pred and Illey to C9 🙏🏻
What if pred hit on someone’s girl on OpTic plus the gambling issue
Or underage girl. It’s gotta be super bad tbh
Faze got 100 clubbed at EWC by Optic
guys... what are we talking about.... there is nothing they could not speek about... exept one thing... he was cheating, and talking about that would question everything, how could he do that without the others knowing and it would question the champs title...
thats the only logic reason to be quiet about that situation
... optic india 2.0...
Let's goo
why does his team mates have to do a public tweet showing support?? How u know they aint done that behind closed doors??? All the time consumers want everything relaid to them and when its not they just run with speculation n talk about BS! These guys don't owe any1 an explanation for inhouse shit unless they want to
He’s having his MJ year off relax
Would optic release him with some disgust so he can go earn money to pay the debt, cause he cannot earn outside the league or his wage, has his debt made him bust up with someone or has he arrived somewhere drunk and wreckless after a big blow out and disrespected some or one of the optics nearest & dearest, always shit happening with optic and their weekend activities, crazy times
Definitely something wasnt right with pred and Kenny
Bro go get a $20-30 usb microphone OR don't participate in the podcast. Subjecting the listeners to a laptop mic week after week is ABSURD when walmart sells cheap microphoned that will improve your quality by 15x for $20
Ace be quiet bro tryna diss optic cause ur cousin got no props for helping during champs u don’t kno all info so jus let it play out acting like bro didn’t exist for a reason
Pred - unfortunate but it’s happened. I don’t see him back in the cdl
C9 - they need to change there ARs they aren’t performing at all
Faze - I think it’s time to change that team up they’ve been together a long time and they just aren’t playing well enough
Toronto - the underdog, beans and Joed are fire together they will get a major I think
LAT - so far I haven’t seen a super performance from them that’s wowed me. Unfortunately. They have potential BUT the games they have had are not convincing enough so far.
The is show would be soo much better without Ace. Like people only know him as Lamar’s cousin. Hes so cringe.
Facts. Ace will be replaced by "The Roxman" going forward