@@MrLboydReacts I knew he’d find you! Tom & Nova will enjoy all your reactions you’ve done so far. You are the most neutral reactor I’ve ever come across and the fact that you stay true to all that you say, says a lot about you as a person. Thank you for keeping it real!
You're a thoughtful guy. You are 100% wrong about Hate Speech though. The freedom to say hateful things even slurs is very important to a free society. Even if you are intentionally trying to piss somebody off. What happens when 63% of the country says you know what the term white privilege is racist or that it is being said intentionally to piss white people off. You said who cares if its 10 people but what if it is 200 million. Then do we censor that? The goal post will always move towards the right of the powerful and elite in a game of censorship. Freedom of speech must always protect speech. Most importantly it must protect the speech of hate. Racist. Bigots. Zealots. The worst. You have to allow it. You just have to. Good ideas always win out.
That's right you CAN'T CHERRY PICK SPEECH!!! If you DON'T AGREE and it hurts you're pathetic little feelings THEN YOU KNOW WHAT?? USE THOSE TWO THING'S GOD GAVE YOU CALLED LEGS AND WALK THE FUCK AWAY!!! PLAIN AND SIMPLE!!!
@@Nazyairsengikar Yes, hate speech is hate speech, but hate speech is still free speech. The whole argument is that "hate speech should not be covered by free speech, so that we can take action against you for it", which would include publically shaming them, making sure they never work again, even as far as imprisonment. That would literally include if someone were to call Obama a n***** while he was President, they could throw him jail for it. That is not right, no person should EVER be liable of having their entire life ruined because of a WORD, not matter how hurtful it is. That is riding DANGEROUSLY close to living in a country in a dictatorship. Try living in China a couple decades ago and say ANYTHING negative about the government or its leadership, you would be on the fast track to a concentration camp (which China still runs, BTW). In the 'free' world, speaking words should not be a crime.
@@Nazyairsengikar "hate speech is still hateful speech" Contrary to popular belief, it is not illegal to hate OR be a racist (at least this is the case in the United States). It is illegal to act violently or maliciously based on your beliefs. Therefore, "hateful speech" is in no way harmful in and of itself, and must be allowed into the conversation.
The bitchmade part of this is my opinion of eminem , not putting words in your mouth K to..but i do agree you have to call a spade a spade regardless of who they are
The problem with your premise is who defines hate speech? The problem with the term "hate speech" is that once it is defined it can be weaponized. Cancel culture is a good example, they routinely use "hate speech" as a weapon against people.
100%. Speech intended to be hurtful might be unethical, but must be free speech. It is the only way to maintain the principle. It is the price you pay for a free society. Otherwise, you are saying that you want a kind society, and the only way for a kind society is by force, however, that is the paradox of kindness, being kind is kind, but enforcing kindness is tyranny.
The problem with the hate speech argument is who decides how that's defined and where does it end? Better to let people speak their mind and face whatever social shunning may come from it than to open up the door that leads to calling out a politician being a criminal act.
Exactly. If someone is being immoral so what god is only one who can judge that person thats what FREE speach is imo....... Dont have to like it but cant deny them the first ammendment
Well hate speech is someone who is stating hate towards a person or group of ppl how they live or their past, or their culture. And hating something someone said that's factual and just hating the topic. Is not hate speech, you just don't like what they are saying
I agree.. I think it’s already been decided a long time ago in amendment 1 of a document we call our constitution.. and specifically the Bill of Rights.
@@traveleradam you calling me stupid is your opinion.... Not hate speech, hating me on something I did in my past and making me feel inadequate and making others looking at me differently just cuz of you bringing up my past and continuing to hinder me would be hate speech. And if you did not want me to reply, why would you rebuddle and debate?
"Goebbels was in favor of free speech for views he liked. So was Stalin. If you’re really in favor of free speech, then you’re in favor of freedom of speech for precisely the views you despise. Otherwise, you’re not in favor of free speech." Noam Chomsky
I will say what I replied to another....the reason hate speech use to be free is because it keeps people free and all out in the open so we can hear their crazy asses and they are not in hiding and we finf out years later. America's the marketplace of ideas I want them all on the table and the people will speak....and it's all oppo now. Damn woke,media,politics have effed it all up....that's why if there is no hate speech there nobody bitching all the time about is it or isn't it....I know won't be popular but it's the way it was intended...we want all the ideas out on the table for the world to see (that's most important for the best ones and the worst ones)....not to cancel them to learn from them before they might grow into a problem for an example....I'll quit rambling
YOU ARE SPOT ON WITH YOURE REACTION.TOM IS A FREAKING GENIUS I LOVE HIS ENTHUSIUSM TO GIVE YOU THE TRUTH THATS WHY IM HANGOVERGANG ILL ALWAYS RIDE WITH TOM
I will say what I replied to another....the reason hate speech use to be free is because it keeps people free and all out in the open so we can hear their crazy asses and they are not in hiding and we finf out years later. America's the marketplace of ideas I want them all on the table and the people will speak....and it's all oppo now. Damn woke,media,politics have effed it all up....that's why if there is no hate speech there nobody bitching all the time about is it or isn't it....I know won't be popular but it's the way it was intended...we want all the ideas out on the table for the world to see (that's most important for the best ones and the worst ones)....not to cancel them to learn from them before they might grow into a problem for an example....I'll quit rambling
I will say what I replied to another....the reason hate speech use to be free is because it keeps people free and all out in the open so we can hear their crazy asses and they are not in hiding and we finf out years later. America's the marketplace of ideas I want them all on the table and the people will speak....and it's all oppo now. Damn woke,media,politics have effed it all up....that's why if there is no hate speech there nobody bitching all the time about is it or isn't it....I know won't be popular but it's the way it was intended...we want all the ideas out on the table for the world to see (that's most important for the best ones and the worst ones)....not to cancel them to learn from them before they might grow into a problem for an example....I'll quit rambling
@@MrLboydReacts I am editing my own reaction to this right now but forgot to have OBS record the audio output so have to sync up the song audio to the video with pause breaks like you and back tracking. So originally wanted to get it out fast like you but unfortunately gonna be probably a day long endeavor to get everything good to post. Love your reactions dude even when we might disagree about certain things. Overall you're genuine and real and that is why I watch you.
@@MrLboydReacts You're more than welcome to, the issue wasn't the software though just me forgetting to properly set up by having the audio going into my headphones to be recorded which OBS can do. Just I normally do anime reactions and for that I don't screen record. For music reactions though I screen record so what all needs to be captured is different.
Inciting violence is hate speech. Saying you hate somebody or something is not. Calling somebody outside of their name is rude; it's not hate speech. Doesn't matter if you know what you say is gonna piss somebody off. If it's NOT inciting violence, our 1st Amendment (here in America) protects it.
Its not about whether or not someone likes it when you say something.... it's about the government being able to impose on the individual to control thier words, and therefore thier minds. In America government doesn't have that power. Doesnt matter if it's right or wrong, it's about granting the government the power to choose what is acceptable..... This is the argument against hate speech
@@TheIfrit23 4 wheel low..Second verse " I am not shady please do not compare me to these white rappers they about as soft as wet 1 ply napkins"...I'd say he talking about eminem but I could be wrong
A good friend of mine has a white dad and a black mom so he is brown, Latino people always came in our office and started speaking Spanish to him. I’m white with a Hispanic family so I speak it. It was funny because he would look at me and say “what did they say?” and I would translate. It confused the shit out of them and they acted like he was a traitor for asking a white guy what was said in his “native language” because of the color of his skin. It was messed up but he and I had fun screwing with them.
Hate speech still can’t be censored, cause who gets to choose what hate speech is? Hate speech can change and politicians and elites will choose what speech is wrong, not us.
I will say what I replied to another....the reason hate speech use to be free is because it keeps people free and all out in the open so we can hear their crazy asses and they are not in hiding and we finf out years later. America's the marketplace of ideas I want them all on the table and the people will speak....and it's all oppo now. Damn woke,media,politics have effed it all up....that's why if there is no hate speech there nobody bitching all the time about is it or isn't it....I know won't be popular but it's the way it was intended...we want all the ideas out on the table for the world to see (that's most important for the best ones and the worst ones)....not to cancel them to learn from them before they might grow into a problem for an example....I'll quit rambling
A couple of centuries ago, a group of guys got together to set down the core set of rules that everyone could abide by. An obnoxious guy that no one liked said, "The very first rule absolutely Has to be: 'I get to say Whatever I Want at Any Time.'" The guy across from him nods, & says, "Ok. Then the second rule has to be: 'I get a gun.'"
People are free to say whatever they want, including hate speech, and the rest of us are free to tell them they suck for it. All I need to worry about is what comes out of my own mouth, and what's in my heart and my head. I know that life is damn hard for everybody and the last thing I want is to try to make it harder for anyone else.
Every individual will have a different level of what they feel is toxic. When you draw a line for yourself that does not mean the line is the same for someone else.
Sad this even needs to be discussed. I’ll start by saying I’m a decent person, I don’t intentionally hate or discriminate for any reason. But what if I wanted to...how can our government created “by the people” “for the people” all that sugar coating bullshit sensor the words that come out of my mouth? Just a wild concept. If I wanted to spend the rest of my life only using one word shouting “FUCK!” Wherever I go. You bet your ass I’m going to do it. This isn’t fucken North Korea. If I say something that offends you.. punch me in the mouth. Simple as that
Told ya you'd have the Gang here lol. I do hope this can get ppl talking not fighting walk away. This is all stuff I wish we could fix. I dont fit on either side of any of this craziness
I am happy that you reacted to this! yes we all have watched the original over and over already. we're here to hear YOU and YOUR voice on it! another insightful reaction!
1st time checking out your channel. 58 seconds in and I'm honestly blown away at your production value and you might just have one of the best voices I've heard.
People should be able to say whatever they want. But, the more people they are speaking for or influencing then the more they should be held accountable for the results.
Define hate speech? The point is if someone thinks it's hate speech whether it is or isn't it's automatically shut down based on someone else's point of view. This is a large debate that would never get resolved because people can't come to an agreement.
I love how clearly he lets his opinion be known. If he's saying something and it's not what he truly believes, he either tells you flat out with the next line, or he laughs at it. Unfortunately people get butthurt because they don't pay attention to when he's laughing
The 1st amendment is SUPER important and needs to be protected - including "hate speech". If you start banning some speech (even if it's hateful or hurtful), it's a slippery slope - Who gets to decide which speech/words lands on that list? What is hate speech to some is regular speech to others. Who gets to decide how it's enforced? Does the context in which the speech was said matter? Does it matter who says these banned words - their gender, skin colour, religion, etc...?
feels like a shapiro level of level headed ness, he has his own experiences to add in, he feels like all of his thoughts have been premeditated but he isnt stuck with it. This dude rocks. also like his voice
The thing about hate speech is... who decides what is hate speech or not? I mean, the more sensible among us know what obvious hate speech, but when you allow it to be used as an umbrella term for, as Tom said, speech that you hate, and there's no non-biased or objective moderation of what is labeled hate speech, then all speech becomes "hate speech"... and that is what Tom is referring to in my opinion.
Your breakdown is so on point. 100% Tom & Nova are fire. Loving these breakdowns and conversations all over social media. Can't wait for Friday I am addicted to all of their stuff.
Great video man, I think the point of protecting hate speech (as long as there is no threats being made) is so that you can be checked by your peers and let society correct you. Where as if you censor it they get driven into echo chambers and end up radicalizing themselves further which in turn, creates a more hateful, dangerous group of people.
Of your born in America to American parents then the box that asks you your race 90% of the population here can mark almost all the boxes because we are all mix races for generations
And the "African" box tends to lead people to think of a color. But one of Africa's biggest problems in history was Apartheid. Wouldn't have happened if there weren't so many white Africans🤷♀️
@@reneeg9406 same with Hispanic it tends now to boost you up but Asian or Caucasian pushes it down. But here in America our blood is so mixed we have almost every race in our DNA. Aftrica is mixed in the south but very stable everywhere else. Ruff place Africa and slavery has not slowed down there ever but no one tries to stop it just let other countries buy there people as slaves. Its all about the money just like our government here with enough money and power you are untouchable
Yo I been listening to this song because of your reaction video. Tom macdonald one of my favorite rappers now. Going back to the subject, I do hate that they purposely try to divide us and it is everywhere. We the people, their is not one race better than all of us we are all humans. That's why i believe one man's injustice anywhere is everymans injustice everywhere. The point is to keep us divided, strategy used by plenty of elites in the past. It's to keep the people from going against the true enemies and realizing our full strength. I also believe you need both liberal and conservatives, whether or not we get along. You need one side to push the bar forward and the other to say hey we need to step back here and keep this the way it is for this reason. 2 heads are better than 1 type of scenario, it's sad we've strived so far from that. They divide us every single way possible, we need to stop looking at the small things that divide us and stand together on what unites us.
The issue of free thought, free agency was something the Founding Fathers had to deal with when writing the Constitution. I have no doubt the they spent days working on a set of Amendments that would ALLOW PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD, OF DIFFERENT RELIGIOUS BACKGROUNDS, WHO PRACTICED DIFFERENT CUSTOMS AND HAVE DIFFERENT WAYS OF SOLVING PROBLEMS to live together without killing each other. I'm an old guy (68) and even though I had history class in school I don't remember really going over the Constitution of the United States. When I finally did read and study it I was impressed at the thought and I'm sure prayer that went into it for everyone born after they wrote it. I wish more people would take the time to really study it. Liked your take on Fake Woke. Aloha.
There is no hate speech! Speech is speech. It doesn't matter who's feelings it hurts! There will always be evil people and good, regardless! EVERYONE deserves to be heard. I don't care. As long as you aren't physically harmig someone else, their speech MUST be free!
Tom has some songs from about 5 years ago that are definitely worth a listen. They really talk about where he has come from and the struggles he's gone through. Even if you don't want to react to them, I recommend you check them out. The titles are "Wannabe" and "If I Change"
I love toms music. im native and white but i don't want ppl not to celebrate holidays i Don't celebrate most holidays but some i do when i do i celebrate though it isn't for the "HOLIDAY" im celebrating my fam and loved ones. When i do ceremony im praying for everyone even people i cant stand i always ask that my enemy's be strong that they have blessings in their lives. My point is we can have our past, history, cultures, beliefs, etc does not matter. i wil give you respect as a human i will fight for your freedom.
I agree with a lot of what you're saying. My issue is that hate speech should be protected because then you can hear all the stupid and use that to influence who you listen to. Maybe I'm wrong but it's my thoughts on the subject
I’d rather have 100% free speech including the most vile hate speech... I’d rather know how someone truly feels than keeping them muted. Thanks for actually reacting to songs with intelligence instead of just doing it for clicks... very few like you 👍
I will say what I replied to another....the reason hate speech use to be free is because it keeps people free and all out in the open so we can hear their crazy asses and they are not in hiding and we finf out years later. America's the marketplace of ideas I want them all on the table and the people will speak....and it's all oppo now. Damn woke,media,politics have effed it all up....that's why if there is no hate speech there nobody bitching all the time about is it or isn't it....I know won't be popular but it's the way it was intended...we want all the ideas out on the table for the world to see (that's most important for the best ones and the worst ones)....not to cancel them to learn from them before they might grow into a problem for an example....I'll quit rambling
Be honest, don't worry about hurting feelings. As Tom says facts don't care about feelings. We need more people in the world like Tom who will stand up and speak the truth. I don't care if you have bad things to say about the right or the left, if it is true let it be said and expose it for what it really is. We need to stop tippy toing around because it might hurt someone's feelings. They will get over it.
Forever tuning in to you bro. Much love
Love your music and messages
HOG
I appreciate all that is you.
@@MrLboydReacts I knew he’d find you! Tom & Nova will enjoy all your reactions you’ve done so far. You are the most neutral reactor I’ve ever come across and the fact that you stay true to all that you say, says a lot about you as a person. Thank you for keeping it real!
You're a thoughtful guy. You are 100% wrong about Hate Speech though. The freedom to say hateful things even slurs is very important to a free society. Even if you are intentionally trying to piss somebody off. What happens when 63% of the country says you know what the term white privilege is racist or that it is being said intentionally to piss white people off. You said who cares if its 10 people but what if it is 200 million. Then do we censor that? The goal post will always move towards the right of the powerful and elite in a game of censorship. Freedom of speech must always protect speech. Most importantly it must protect the speech of hate. Racist. Bigots. Zealots. The worst. You have to allow it. You just have to. Good ideas always win out.
What he said about Eminem is fact.
He's got the facts.
100%
I voted for trump and im still a eminem fan I guess he will get over it at some point 🤣😂🤣😂
@@anonsmokes5802 or not! Lol!
I been a fan since 2 trailer park girls went round the outside!
You can't pick and choose either you have free speech or you don't. "Things you cannot say" is the opposite of free speech.
That's right you CAN'T CHERRY PICK SPEECH!!! If you DON'T AGREE and it hurts you're pathetic little feelings THEN YOU KNOW WHAT?? USE THOSE TWO THING'S GOD GAVE YOU CALLED LEGS AND WALK THE FUCK AWAY!!! PLAIN AND SIMPLE!!!
Agreed but hate speech is still hateful speech.
@@Nazyairsengikar Yes, hate speech is hate speech, but hate speech is still free speech. The whole argument is that "hate speech should not be covered by free speech, so that we can take action against you for it", which would include publically shaming them, making sure they never work again, even as far as imprisonment. That would literally include if someone were to call Obama a n***** while he was President, they could throw him jail for it. That is not right, no person should EVER be liable of having their entire life ruined because of a WORD, not matter how hurtful it is. That is riding DANGEROUSLY close to living in a country in a dictatorship. Try living in China a couple decades ago and say ANYTHING negative about the government or its leadership, you would be on the fast track to a concentration camp (which China still runs, BTW).
In the 'free' world, speaking words should not be a crime.
@@cyanide7270 yep
@@Nazyairsengikar "hate speech is still hateful speech"
Contrary to popular belief, it is not illegal to hate OR be a racist (at least this is the case in the United States). It is illegal to act violently or maliciously based on your beliefs.
Therefore, "hateful speech" is in no way harmful in and of itself, and must be allowed into the conversation.
YES...you do call out Eminem's name like that THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH WHAT HE SAID IT'S JUST STRAIGHT FACTS.
Exactly!.Just because hes a wizard with words doesnt mean he cant also be bitchmade..like Acal said hes as tough as a one ply napkin..Agreed!
The bitchmade part of this is my opinion of eminem , not putting words in your mouth K to..but i do agree you have to call a spade a spade regardless of who they are
How is this an issue plenty of bands wouldn't have been about Nixon or Bush supporters and spoke against them.
The problem with your premise is who defines hate speech?
The problem with the term "hate speech" is that once it is defined it can be weaponized. Cancel culture is a good example, they routinely use "hate speech" as a weapon against people.
facts
Absolutely
100% agree, very slippery slope.
100%. Speech intended to be hurtful might be unethical, but must be free speech. It is the only way to maintain the principle.
It is the price you pay for a free society. Otherwise, you are saying that you want a kind society, and the only way for a kind society is by force, however, that is the paradox of kindness, being kind is kind, but enforcing kindness is tyranny.
People have to be careful what they wish for. People will start turning on there neighbors... but maybe that's what they want.
Why I love Tom..........he makes us ALL have these hard conversations we dont want to have.
The problem with the hate speech argument is who decides how that's defined and where does it end? Better to let people speak their mind and face whatever social shunning may come from it than to open up the door that leads to calling out a politician being a criminal act.
Short of incitement the government should stay out of words all together
Exactly. If someone is being immoral so what god is only one who can judge that person thats what FREE speach is imo....... Dont have to like it but cant deny them the first ammendment
Well hate speech is someone who is stating hate towards a person or group of ppl how they live or their past, or their culture. And hating something someone said that's factual and just hating the topic. Is not hate speech, you just don't like what they are saying
I agree.. I think it’s already been decided a long time ago in amendment 1 of a document we call our constitution.. and specifically the Bill of Rights.
@@traveleradam you calling me stupid is your opinion.... Not hate speech, hating me on something I did in my past and making me feel inadequate and making others looking at me differently just cuz of you bringing up my past and continuing to hinder me would be hate speech. And if you did not want me to reply, why would you rebuddle and debate?
Tom is a legend
He killed it
Tom is Tom
He is not scared 🔥🔥🔥 I new it is gone be fire 🔥
#hangovergang4life
"Goebbels was in favor of free speech for views he liked. So was Stalin. If you’re really in favor of free speech, then you’re in favor of freedom of speech for precisely the views you despise. Otherwise, you’re not in favor of free speech."
Noam Chomsky
I will say what I replied to another....the reason hate speech use to be free is because it keeps people free and all out in the open so we can hear their crazy asses and they are not in hiding and we finf out years later. America's the marketplace of ideas I want them all on the table and the people will speak....and it's all oppo now. Damn woke,media,politics have effed it all up....that's why if there is no hate speech there nobody bitching all the time about is it or isn't it....I know won't be popular but it's the way it was intended...we want all the ideas out on the table for the world to see (that's most important for the best ones and the worst ones)....not to cancel them to learn from them before they might grow into a problem for an example....I'll quit rambling
YOU ARE SPOT ON WITH YOURE REACTION.TOM IS A FREAKING GENIUS I LOVE HIS ENTHUSIUSM TO GIVE YOU THE TRUTH THATS WHY IM HANGOVERGANG ILL ALWAYS RIDE WITH TOM
Jeez, stop yelling already
Emenim should not get upset..it's the true...
Tom said it later in his song: “truth doesn’t hurt legitimate ideology” speech should be covered even hate speech.
I will say what I replied to another....the reason hate speech use to be free is because it keeps people free and all out in the open so we can hear their crazy asses and they are not in hiding and we finf out years later. America's the marketplace of ideas I want them all on the table and the people will speak....and it's all oppo now. Damn woke,media,politics have effed it all up....that's why if there is no hate speech there nobody bitching all the time about is it or isn't it....I know won't be popular but it's the way it was intended...we want all the ideas out on the table for the world to see (that's most important for the best ones and the worst ones)....not to cancel them to learn from them before they might grow into a problem for an example....I'll quit rambling
It's amazing when someone speaks truth how many more people agree with it than we think would. Thanks for the reactions :) enjoy your travels
Who decides “hate speech” all speech has to be protected.
No one decide what hate speech is, because hate speech doesn’t exist. Outlawing “hate” speech is just as ridiculous as outlawing “love” speech.
I will say what I replied to another....the reason hate speech use to be free is because it keeps people free and all out in the open so we can hear their crazy asses and they are not in hiding and we finf out years later. America's the marketplace of ideas I want them all on the table and the people will speak....and it's all oppo now. Damn woke,media,politics have effed it all up....that's why if there is no hate speech there nobody bitching all the time about is it or isn't it....I know won't be popular but it's the way it was intended...we want all the ideas out on the table for the world to see (that's most important for the best ones and the worst ones)....not to cancel them to learn from them before they might grow into a problem for an example....I'll quit rambling
I love that Tom’s music creates conversations and is also fire at the same time!🔥 Love your reactions!
Allowing someone's words to have that much power over you is giving them the control. Sticks and Stones my man!
So know you technically back tracked but about Eminem, no one is above critique and criticism. Tom was correct to call him out.
with new information, comes new opinions
@@MrLboydReacts I am editing my own reaction to this right now but forgot to have OBS record the audio output so have to sync up the song audio to the video with pause breaks like you and back tracking. So originally wanted to get it out fast like you but unfortunately gonna be probably a day long endeavor to get everything good to post. Love your reactions dude even when we might disagree about certain things. Overall you're genuine and real and that is why I watch you.
@@projectomnia1997 I could suggest the software I use if it will help your channel out.
@@MrLboydReacts You're more than welcome to, the issue wasn't the software though just me forgetting to properly set up by having the audio going into my headphones to be recorded which OBS can do. Just I normally do anime reactions and for that I don't screen record. For music reactions though I screen record so what all needs to be captured is different.
MrLboyd Reacts I would like to know your setup. I was planning on doing a UA-cam channel soon.
Inciting violence is hate speech. Saying you hate somebody or something is not. Calling somebody outside of their name is rude; it's not hate speech. Doesn't matter if you know what you say is gonna piss somebody off. If it's NOT inciting violence, our 1st Amendment (here in America) protects it.
"Facts don't care about your feelings" is a line Ben Shapiro said a while back. It's a very good line.
The hook for this song should become Ben’s intro and putto song. I’d actually love to hear Shapiro do a reaction segment to this song! HOG4EVER 🤘🤘🤘
I heard him say this live. Cool you picked up on that.
@@heatherll6810 lol ✌️✌️
He still says it. lol
Too bad Shapiro's feelings distort/define his facts
Its not about whether or not someone likes it when you say something.... it's about the government being able to impose on the individual to control thier words, and therefore thier minds. In America government doesn't have that power. Doesnt matter if it's right or wrong, it's about granting the government the power to choose what is acceptable.....
This is the argument against hate speech
Tom’s a hammer and luckily for him there’s a lot of nails
As much of a fan of Eminem I am, Tom Macdonald is completely correct about what he said about him.
Everything was 100% true..... including the stuff about Eminem.
@xPositivityx bless sadly i agree if em dont want me because of what i believe in then tell me who is the bigot?
Facts
About time someone was brave enough to call out Eminem. Always a pleasure
calhoun called that bitch out also on his new song
@@Diablothefightingrooster what song?
@@TheIfrit23 4 wheel low..Second verse " I am not shady please do not compare me to these white rappers they about as soft as wet 1 ply napkins"...I'd say he talking about eminem but I could be wrong
@@Diablothefightingrooster I wouldn't doubt it from acal
@@TheIfrit23 Savage!!
Who has the authority to decide what hate speech is?
Tom is known for controversy and I love it because he is one of the only ones who can pull it off and can withstand the back lash from it
I'm here for it!
#hangovergang for life 💥🔥💥
Tom killed this one. This is his best so far. Continually raising that bar Tom Mc.
Man thats a sick petermobile.....gotta give credit
So glad you got to this one quick. Love your reactions!!!!
A good friend of mine has a white dad and a black mom so he is brown, Latino people always came in our office and started speaking Spanish to him. I’m white with a Hispanic family so I speak it. It was funny because he would look at me and say “what did they say?” and I would translate. It confused the shit out of them and they acted like he was a traitor for asking a white guy what was said in his “native language” because of the color of his skin. It was messed up but he and I had fun screwing with them.
Hate speech still can’t be censored, cause who gets to choose what hate speech is? Hate speech can change and politicians and elites will choose what speech is wrong, not us.
Won't be long under this administration until so called hate speech includes any criticism of government.
I will say what I replied to another....the reason hate speech use to be free is because it keeps people free and all out in the open so we can hear their crazy asses and they are not in hiding and we finf out years later. America's the marketplace of ideas I want them all on the table and the people will speak....and it's all oppo now. Damn woke,media,politics have effed it all up....that's why if there is no hate speech there nobody bitching all the time about is it or isn't it....I know won't be popular but it's the way it was intended...we want all the ideas out on the table for the world to see (that's most important for the best ones and the worst ones)....not to cancel them to learn from them before they might grow into a problem for an example....I'll quit rambling
He always gets backlash. But that's what happens when you speak facts and the truth! He stands by what he says and believes.
A couple of centuries ago, a group of guys got together to set down the core set of rules that everyone could abide by. An obnoxious guy that no one liked said, "The very first rule absolutely Has to be: 'I get to say Whatever I Want at Any Time.'"
The guy across from him nods, & says, "Ok. Then the second rule has to be: 'I get a gun.'"
#HOG for life! Loving your reactions man! Watching you does tend to make me smoke more spliffs for some reason ; )
People are free to say whatever they want, including hate speech, and the rest of us are free to tell them they suck for it. All I need to worry about is what comes out of my own mouth, and what's in my heart and my head. I know that life is damn hard for everybody and the last thing I want is to try to make it harder for anyone else.
"they don't see each other as humans"
"It doesn't matter what you actually are..."
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Every individual will have a different level of what they feel is toxic. When you draw a line for yourself that does not mean the line is the same for someone else.
Yeah but people have different definion of what hate speech is..
1st amendment is to protect unpopular speech
Exactly
Sad this even needs to be discussed. I’ll start by saying I’m a decent person, I don’t intentionally hate or discriminate for any reason. But what if I wanted to...how can our government created “by the people” “for the people” all that sugar coating bullshit sensor the words that come out of my mouth? Just a wild concept. If I wanted to spend the rest of my life only using one word shouting “FUCK!” Wherever I go. You bet your ass I’m going to do it. This isn’t fucken North Korea. If I say something that offends you.. punch me in the mouth. Simple as that
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Told ya you'd have the Gang here lol. I do hope this can get ppl talking not fighting walk away. This is all stuff I wish we could fix. I dont fit on either side of any of this craziness
Talking always helps
Told you, you were going places :D. Amazing reactions has always, keep up the good work.
PS: Your voice is amazing for this.
If we can reduce identity politics we’d realize that we’re not that different.
I am happy that you reacted to this! yes we all have watched the original over and over already. we're here to hear YOU and YOUR voice on it! another insightful reaction!
I can see this getting shadow banned or banned all together just because its a conversation piece we need to have!!!
I love this track!!!
We should all be Americans..i personally a mut.
1st time checking out your channel. 58 seconds in and I'm honestly blown away at your production value and you might just have one of the best voices I've heard.
This had an old school Em vibe to it, and I loved every second of it. The hook is stuck in my head already.
Its very simple. Be not judged by the color of your skin. But be judged by the content of your character. That's all there is to it.
Every word Tom speaks makes you think . whether you agree or not ,it makes you think.,
He is king
Legendary
People should be able to say whatever they want. But, the more people they are speaking for or influencing then the more they should be held accountable for the results.
This could be Tom's magnum opus. Take this music out into the streets and elsewhere.
Define hate speech? The point is if someone thinks it's hate speech whether it is or isn't it's automatically shut down based on someone else's point of view. This is a large debate that would never get resolved because people can't come to an agreement.
Love your reaction style MrLboyd. You listen closely and mindfully. Many thanks and lotta respect.
Hey thanks man instantly was looking in the Playlist and couldn't find it. Love your reactions and insight.
I love how clearly he lets his opinion be known. If he's saying something and it's not what he truly believes, he either tells you flat out with the next line, or he laughs at it. Unfortunately people get butthurt because they don't pay attention to when he's laughing
The 1st amendment is SUPER important and needs to be protected - including "hate speech".
If you start banning some speech (even if it's hateful or hurtful), it's a slippery slope - Who gets to decide which speech/words lands on that list? What is hate speech to some is regular speech to others. Who gets to decide how it's enforced? Does the context in which the speech was said matter? Does it matter who says these banned words - their gender, skin colour, religion, etc...?
I’m really glad that Mr LBoyd isn’t afraid to react to these videos. Much respect ✌🏼
I believe that when someone say they are offended they are tell you that they can't control their emotions and expect you to do it for them.
feels like a shapiro level of level headed ness, he has his own experiences to add in, he feels like all of his thoughts have been premeditated but he isnt stuck with it. This dude rocks. also like his voice
The thing about hate speech is... who decides what is hate speech or not? I mean, the more sensible among us know what obvious hate speech, but when you allow it to be used as an umbrella term for, as Tom said, speech that you hate, and there's no non-biased or objective moderation of what is labeled hate speech, then all speech becomes "hate speech"... and that is what Tom is referring to in my opinion.
Your breakdown is so on point. 100% Tom & Nova are fire. Loving these breakdowns and conversations all over social media. Can't wait for Friday I am addicted to all of their stuff.
speaking the truth shouldn't be contraversial
too may people butt hurt these days man
Great video man, I think the point of protecting hate speech (as long as there is no threats being made) is so that you can be checked by your peers and let society correct you. Where as if you censor it they get driven into echo chambers and end up radicalizing themselves further which in turn, creates a more hateful, dangerous group of people.
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I think this is where we are now, unfortunately.
Dude you absolutely nailed this I couldn’t have said this any better. Bravo. Excellent point.
Yeah Tom doesn't fuck around. Love it!!
Of your born in America to American parents then the box that asks you your race 90% of the population here can mark almost all the boxes because we are all mix races for generations
And the "African" box tends to lead people to think of a color. But one of Africa's biggest problems in history was Apartheid. Wouldn't have happened if there weren't so many white Africans🤷♀️
@@reneeg9406 same with Hispanic it tends now to boost you up but Asian or Caucasian pushes it down. But here in America our blood is so mixed we have almost every race in our DNA. Aftrica is mixed in the south but very stable everywhere else. Ruff place Africa and slavery has not slowed down there ever but no one tries to stop it just let other countries buy there people as slaves. Its all about the money just like our government here with enough money and power you are untouchable
@@pacman9843 I didn't realize before that no other country uses those stupid boxes. We do need to just get rid of them
@@reneeg9406 true very true
Yo I been listening to this song because of your reaction video. Tom macdonald one of my favorite rappers now. Going back to the subject, I do hate that they purposely try to divide us and it is everywhere. We the people, their is not one race better than all of us we are all humans. That's why i believe one man's injustice anywhere is everymans injustice everywhere. The point is to keep us divided, strategy used by plenty of elites in the past. It's to keep the people from going against the true enemies and realizing our full strength. I also believe you need both liberal and conservatives, whether or not we get along. You need one side to push the bar forward and the other to say hey we need to step back here and keep this the way it is for this reason. 2 heads are better than 1 type of scenario, it's sad we've strived so far from that. They divide us every single way possible, we need to stop looking at the small things that divide us and stand together on what unites us.
Thoughtful analysis of a kick ass song.
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Speech that just triggers people should 100% be covered duuuude!
Love the reaction! Love Tom!!! Just got another sub because of this reaction!!! ❤
Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me.
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You so on target with all your comments, thank you for your show
thanks for this reaction
The issue of free thought, free agency was something the Founding Fathers had to deal with when writing the Constitution. I have no doubt the they spent days working on a set of Amendments that would ALLOW PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD, OF DIFFERENT RELIGIOUS BACKGROUNDS, WHO PRACTICED DIFFERENT CUSTOMS AND HAVE DIFFERENT WAYS OF SOLVING PROBLEMS to live together without killing each other. I'm an old guy (68) and even though I had history class in school I don't remember really going over the Constitution of the United States. When I finally did read and study it I was impressed at the thought and I'm sure prayer that went into it for everyone born after they wrote it. I wish more people would take the time to really study it. Liked your take on Fake Woke. Aloha.
I enjoy your reactions, they are quite solid and entertaining
Radical trivia sent me over here! Loving these reactions! Thanks bro
Straight facts in all his songs
Been checking into reactions to this song ran into yours and I am going to see what reactors I want to hear more from in the future.
Tom is Brilliant 👏
Too me I try too respect each other. No matter what.
There is no hate speech! Speech is speech. It doesn't matter who's feelings it hurts! There will always be evil people and good, regardless! EVERYONE deserves to be heard. I don't care. As long as you aren't physically harmig someone else, their speech MUST be free!
Glad to see you react before I go to work. Another nothing-but-facts release from Tom MacDonald!! #HangOverGang
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Tom has some songs from about 5 years ago that are definitely worth a listen. They really talk about where he has come from and the struggles he's gone through. Even if you don't want to react to them, I recommend you check them out. The titles are "Wannabe" and "If I Change"
It doesn't matter who's name is called out. Tom is right. Forget about who's name is mentioned and listen to what he says. The message is right.
I love toms music. im native and white but i don't want ppl not to celebrate holidays i Don't celebrate most holidays but some i do when i do i celebrate though it isn't for the "HOLIDAY" im celebrating my fam and loved ones. When i do ceremony im praying for everyone even people i cant stand i always ask that my enemy's be strong that they have blessings in their lives. My point is we can have our past, history, cultures, beliefs, etc does not matter. i wil give you respect as a human i will fight for your freedom.
The peaceful ground is Truth
My dude, this is an awesome approach to reactions
Hell ya bro. I was waiting to watch this until you drop a video.
"You don't call out Eminem's name like that, bro."
Since when? Who made him exempt from the backlash of his own actions and comments?
I agree with a lot of what you're saying. My issue is that hate speech should be protected because then you can hear all the stupid and use that to influence who you listen to. Maybe I'm wrong but it's my thoughts on the subject
This song is so factual! I totally agree with your reaction.
I’d rather have 100% free speech including the most vile hate speech... I’d rather know how someone truly feels than keeping them muted.
Thanks for actually reacting to songs with intelligence instead of just doing it for clicks... very few like you 👍
YES! I love what you said. "I'd rather know how someone truly feels than keeping them muted." 100%!
I will say what I replied to another....the reason hate speech use to be free is because it keeps people free and all out in the open so we can hear their crazy asses and they are not in hiding and we finf out years later. America's the marketplace of ideas I want them all on the table and the people will speak....and it's all oppo now. Damn woke,media,politics have effed it all up....that's why if there is no hate speech there nobody bitching all the time about is it or isn't it....I know won't be popular but it's the way it was intended...we want all the ideas out on the table for the world to see (that's most important for the best ones and the worst ones)....not to cancel them to learn from them before they might grow into a problem for an example....I'll quit rambling
Watch the social dilemma and all the worlds problems stem from the same people and places
Be honest, don't worry about hurting feelings. As Tom says facts don't care about feelings. We need more people in the world like Tom who will stand up and speak the truth. I don't care if you have bad things to say about the right or the left, if it is true let it be said and expose it for what it really is. We need to stop tippy toing around because it might hurt someone's feelings. They will get over it.
i may not agree with what someone said, but i will die for their right to say it.
You were on it today brother! Great breakdown as always ❤#hog
Thoughtful and excellent review
Bro you have helped me so much to escape my echo chamber. Thank you.