Roosterteeth Got Rid of Camp Camp and Red VS Blue from YouTube
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Another thing to think about, if people don't know about RT, they wont know to check their website. They don't advertise any of their shows and checking their UA-cam page seems to be the only way you can learn about what shows are going on. But what about all the people who don't know about their UA-cam page? Why don't they advertise their shows more?!
Dogbark is such a bad name it’s impossible to look up since you’d get more videos about actual dogs. Like I don’t think they realize that just because Roosterteeth worked just slapping two random ass words together doesn’t make a memorable and marketable name
Roosterteeth was also a more politically correct term for the name they wanted to use which was 'Cockbite'.
Yes. We almost had 'Cockbite Studios' but they wanted to make it more ad friendly since no one would sponsor their first attempt 'Drunk Tank'.
See that's what makes Roosterteeth work. There's a STORY behind the name. And we all know how bad RT is at STORY today.
I thought it was a spin on ‘hens teeth’ as in “as rare as hens teeth” to suggest that you can’t get stuff like theirs anywhere else
@@table2.0 no Roosterteeth always meant cockbite
"it’s impossible to look up since you’d get more videos about actual dogs."
I just looked it up and their thing is the first several results. You don't how search engines work, do ya...
I mean, it is a shit name for reasons unrelated to searchability anyway but
@@grabble7605It's probably showing up for you because you likely watch Roosterteeth and stuff related to it, so UA-cam can more accurately narrow down what you mean. For a newcomer it would probably be more difficult.
Why does it feel like RT is in the midst of a studio-wide mid-life crisis?
Because it started over 20 years ago (I think). Also it got bought out by a major corporate conglomerate this is just what inevitably happens once a capitalist enterprise reaches that point, not always immediately but eventually the drive for growth and profit maximization leads to the death creativity as it becomes obsessed with replicating its previous successes but larger, extracting more money out of each individual customer and more work out of every worker. Which tends to make things a worse experience for all involved.
@@seekingabsolution1907 Indeed. While the understanding of making money heavily relies and correlates with how a franchise is handled, which heavily includes the narrative and execution of their works of fiction and Entertaiment coming from said franchise, and thus a financial outlook is always needed, if this supersedes the creative drive and is unable to understand that the boundaries between what to do and not to do when it comes to it's relationship with the fandom, you can only except to do as worse as RT.
Also, you know, DON'T BE RACIST OR SEXIST. The horror stories of employees working at RT makes me genuinely believe a place like this was doomed to fall from the very beginning.
@@seekingabsolution1907But that degree and so much.
Like college humir did not that. Nor abused employees
@@marocat4749 Seriously. Collegehumor feels like Rooster Teeth but if they played all their cards properly. Both started out as these very dudebro type companies but one knew how to adapt and the other... not so much.
Mid life? They surpasses that long ago just for some reason fans were blind sighted till now the cult fan base still thinks its all OK it's all good nothing wrong
I think that in the future, RT will be a good example of the dangers of parasocial relationships between content creators and fans.
And a good example of staying aware of your limitations. Their mishandling of the topic of racism is a thing of no small notoriety
@@PhoenixFireZero I'm going to need some context on that, please.
@@PhoenixFireZero I wouldn't call it mishandling. I'd say that RT has very clear opinions about racism that rears its ugly head whenever the subject is brought up in their works and that it really shouldn't come as a surprise from a company from Texas with a history of bigotry within the workplace
and I think in the future, they'd be dead
@@nicholasfarrell5981they tried to do the blm adjacent posts every company did in 2020 and it blew up in their face since a lot of their audience found it preachy and annoying and it also opened the floodgates of former employees accusing rt of having a racist work enviroment
Rooster Teeth is going downhill fast
At this point the twins should take over the company
@@kriblar98 what’s Twins
@@kriblar98who?
@@linked2dio26she is another RWBY youtuber who does similar styled content to Judgemental Critter
@@darkreflection9087Twins short for twinsink (I forgot how to spell her name) who discusses RWBY like Judgemental Critter, in fact they did a couple colors I'm the past
It’s honestly kinda sad to see RT really going down the path of obscurity. I grew up watching all of their stuff so there’s a bittersweet feeling seeing them near their end. They deserve it of course cause of the shit treatment of their employees and all the horrible stuff that went on but still a little sad haha
Path of obscurity? This video was made because they're hugely known. You clicked because they're hugely known.
Obscure, please...
@@grabble7605I personally clicked because I haven't thought about them since the last video I watched on their dwindling popularity, and was wondering if things were better or worse. Either way, I'm not going to their site.
@@grabble7605 does path to being shut down by wb sound better to you?
They're kind of already obscure outside of their animated projects. Like their most popular thing WAS Achievement Hunter, and now that's gone. What else do they really have left where it's just them?
Rooster Teeth in 2013 had 32 employees; they needed to bolster their numbers after the huge hit RWBY and the enduring success of Achievement Hunter and RVB's Chorus Trilogy. Today they have ten times that many, and what are they making?
A load of ignorable content
At most they had 419 employees. They have half of that now, after laying off their gaming/animation department
gotta give them credit, they fired everyone who was helping them be successful lol
I think a big issue with RT’s youtube channel is that they’ve put a lot of their stuff on one channel. For example, A while ago they had a single channel for red vs blue content, which later turned into the rooster teeth animation channel. The problem was, I wasn’t interested in all their animated shows. Just red vs blue and rwby. But it was fine, because it wasn’t that frequent. But they JUST KEPT ADDING things, and eventually, I unsubscribed because the majority of the videos on their channel were either podcasts, behind the scene videos, or gaming videos only related because it was the animation team playing. That’s not even counting their actual animated series I wasn’t watching. And the big problem with this is that even if you have a series as popular as rwby or rvb on your channel, if you stick a bunch of content no one watches in between that, youtube will stop recommending the popular series too.
This goes to show that rooster teeth has had this problem for a long time. They constantly show you things other than what you’re looking for in the hopes that you’ll watch them, but it just ends up hurting the show we came here for because we have to sift through 100 shows we don’t care about to find the one we like.
From what I know about YT there is/ was also a thing called subscriber burn, where if a large enough amount of your subscribers don't watch the content you put out the algorithm stops promoting it even if it's still getting views, which can create a downwards spiral that kills the video and can eventually kill the channel's visibility if it happens often enough. By flooding a channel with variety content when most of your appeal was in a few specific subjects (like RWBY & RvB) it increases the risk of videos being ignored by the viewer base.
Yeah. Critical Role used to be on the Geek and Sundry channel until they branched off into their own dedicated channel.
@@SwitchbackCh And I think that speaks for itself. Critical roles videos regularly reach the million view mark, where almost all of the content on RT animation struggles to break 100k. Even for the few RVB videos that remain (they didn’t care to delete singularity apparently), those are 3 years old and only have around 300-500k views.
Also, hey, I’m a fan of your channel. Your art is neat.
putting RVB on their channel should have been treated like a holiday event! the website should have been re-themed around it. they should have a banner at the top to advertise that RvB was now exclusive on the site AND MOST IMPORTANTLY they should have gotten at LEAST 3 new episodes ready for the move to entice viewers over by FIRST announcing that they had 3 new episodes of RvB "available only on the RoosterTeeth website!" then once they butter ppl up with that, they should announce in a SECOND VIDEO (a week later) that the show isnt "coming back" to youtube. that gives the impression that they have a plan, that things are going well with the website, that they were successful and dont need youtube anymore BUT they should still keep uploading behind the scenes stuff and announcements to youtube.
That sounds like a true business tactic. They even had a new Camp Camp episode a couple months ago where they could have done this. Then again, I only knew about that episode because UA-cam recommended it. They seriously aren't advertising these things enough
Sounds like this decision was made by the same dipshit that changed the logo to literal *BLOCK ART*
Not to mention RVB is their flagship series, it’s really dumb not being at the front. This is honestly sad to see rooster teeth been falling like this.
Putting RvB on their Main Channel only after recently announcing the LAST SEASON seems like the worst idea ever. Forcing everyone over when they are in the middle of making their last season.
Step 1: remove all our content from assessable platforms to make it harder for our products to reach a wider audience, Step 2: only promote RWBY because it's the only show people somewhat care about and leave our other shows to gather dust on the shelves, Step 3: Profit (?). And RT wonders why the company is failing 🙄
Also I totally agree you're comment about about how all companies care about is money, and it just makes me sad that so many companies seem to sacrifice quality over quantity, I think I've sad this before but I'll take one one show that everyone has poured their heart into over 100 shows that were rushed out the door that people will only watch once and never again
The worst part of them being so money hungry is that it's killing their profits. They made their millions making low budget passion products. Now they're just Machinima 2.0.
RT isnt failing. Their website has changed to have animation and their podscasts and short shows. RT is a passion project of doing what they enjoy in all one place. If you go to the website now you do see it looking better. They have been asking for feed back on the Discord and made a whole video asking what people want to see. Seen people do want to see shows like Dogbark, F**K face and their other shows. Its people who want to make something amazing. Their website has changed. They also just announced the return to camp camp with a season 5. Their extra shows are them doing their passions and putting it in one space!
I also wanna put their like message that they want people to know.
"We are ROOSTER TEETH where comedy, passion, and creativity collide. now in HD"
They arent just pumping out shows its their team doing stuff they would like to do!
In defense of that Native American stereotype, the characters in the episode also acknowledge it's offensive. It pays off a pretty good joke at the end where the campers are dressed actually Indian rather than Native American "Indian."
Can hardly fault someone for seeing something like that and thinking "yeah, nah, I won't waste brain cells on that." Not a great thumbnail, honestly.
@@PhoenixFireZero100%, That is a big yikes for the thumbnail. Removing the context from an offensive joke is not the smartest move.
I mean, isnt max having indian parents and, thsts, i mean its adressed very much.
And the series has edgy teasing things like dolph all the time.
Personally I like how the joke calls out irl camps that appropriate Native American culture like that and point blank say it’s racist lmao
The thumbnail is attention grabbing and you click it to hopefully LEARN the context of the image
It's never the actual minority getting offended by stuff like this. It's always white people on the internet getting offended for them most of the time
RT is the embodiment of Patrick nailing the board to his head meme
as a camp camp fan who went through the whole 5 year hiatus waiting for the show to be back i was so excited about the special episode we got this summer and was even more happy to hear that we will be getting new episodes next year too. imagine my surprise when i found out not only causal viewers but also other camp camp fans don’t know that in the midst of all this they created season 4 of cc five years ago. i really wanted to act surprised but after years of following the company it didn’t even come from a left field. all of this boils down to rts biggest problem which is just utter lack of investment into any promotion of their projects, not just to the public as advertisement or payed promotions on other platforms but on their own sites and social media in the first place. it’s so disheartening to see that your favorite show, camp camp rwby rvb whatever, is not hated by anyone more then by the very people in charge of it.
i saw someone else in the comments call rooster teeth a good example of a parasocial company when in my eyes it couldn’t be as far from the truth as it gets. rooster teeth dont have an unhealthy and close relationship with their fans, they don’t care for the wants or needs of their fans whatsoever, they don’t hear fans when they ask for the company to do something smart for once for the basic necessities of a show promotion. everyone at rt expects their fans to do all the work by spreading the show around and giving it attention but this isn’t youtube 2017 anymore so it won’t work like this. rooster teeth is no longer a small passion project of a few friends, it’s a huge company that needs to start acting like one before it’s too late.
I think what I hate most about them moving everything off of UA-cam is the fact I can't go to the comments and see what people thought of a episode.
Yeah, that sucks, that time capsule of memories, of people sharing their thoughts on the episodes as they came out is essentially deleted.
thats probably what RT loves most. that and a better way to advertise merch.
As a huge fan of Recreyo, Recreyo is a scenario based show among 5 friends with a slow burn plot of an AI character named Recreyo chan (imagine Junko Enoshima and Monika from DDLC as a vtuber/ SCP escaped experiment perhaps) slowly corrupting the series itself and it’s a fun show! The series was inspired by the likes of DanPlan and tbh, I had more fun watching Recreyo than any recent season of RWBY and RVB
Have they always been apart of rt?
@@Ultamint_me1000I don’t think so.
@@Ultamint_me1000I only just found out that they’re a part of rt through this video. I’ve known them for a long time through their UA-cam channel. So I would assume that they’re more popular on UA-cam than they are on the rt website. You should check them out! They often make dnd like videos out of popular pieces of media like persona or Skyrim. It’s pretty unique content. Their channel is the same name as it is ( or was) on the rt website.
Critter giving praise to Death Battle was a nice surprise. Season 10 has been wonderful so far.
Indeed it has! Consistently great episodes this whole season and I expect the streak will continue.
Bro I remember back in June thinking they couldn't top Dragonborn vs. Chosen Undead. ...they topped that episode 5 times this season.
Death Battle is legit the only show that is actually worth a damn on UA-cam and was ESTABLISHED primarily on UA-cam. So that's not gonna' go anywhere since it's technically it's own entity now despite being owned by RoosterTeeth. Also I agree, Season 10 has been knocking it out of the park so far.
Judgemental Critter doesn't even watch Death Battle. All she did was say Death Battle gets a lot of views. Is it really okay to praise something you don't watch? That is like inviting some one to a party but you yourself is not going to it.
@@RedDusk369Well to be fair, critter was approaching it from the analyst perspective of numbers and views rather than trying to dissect its quality as her point of bringing up death battle was to compare it to the viewership of other RT content and how it has been doing better.
There's a reason why you shouldn't try to push folks to a different site.
Just because your main site can rake in the dough, doesn't mean it'll rake in the views. Trying to push people outside of their comfort zone will just make them want to stop supporting you if they haven't already.
views don't make money. if you buy a single cup or subscribe for a single month you've given RT more money than they will make off of decades of ads aimed at you, and by _sheer coincidence_ that seems to be what the website is good at pushing.
I used to watch once upon a time when it was first coming out but it had many ads that eventually I stopped (after 3 seasons lmao) so I agree and it’s the same with crunchy roll
Feel like it's just going down hill for them, so their trying anything to keep the numbers up.
" the view just went down abit. It's still profitable! It's still profitable!"
Plus its all well and good to try and get more ad money, but if your videos are making 5 times the money but viewership is to a 10th of what it was before, be it people just clicking off due to adds or not being able to find what they want from bad website design, was it really worth it?
Also thanks for sharing one of your favorites with us there Critter. That's.....Interesting XD
honestly I would not be surprised to learn that Death Battle brings the most revenu to RT and this show could probably survive on it own without RT, good thing it doesn't get caught with the company's crap
The show was popular even before RT owned it and even then
You can get all sorts of exclusive stuff in their UA-cam membership
Yet
Recreyo.... is a super fire skit channel that posts weekly/bi-weekly. I indulge in a lot of their scenarios and enjoy the clips of their most funniest moments. Why... are they advertised here tho? They can carry themselves just fine by themselves.
I want to know that as well,
also, what is CypherDen’s Adventures?
@@johanstenfelt1206 Her own channel videos probably. The people in Recreyo do their own content as well.
@@GunmetalGator I know that, which is why I was wondering.
Rooster Teeth is a bunch of college bros that never grew up, and neither did their content lol. The only content that continues to do well was created by someone from outside. It's that original passion and love for something that one man created that ultimately is why we stay watching RWBY, even if it really hasn't delivered anything up to the same level of quality in the past half a decade. The rest of RT is just a bunch of unqualified man-children who can't even groom themselves half the time lol
i have seen so many people giving Rooster Teeth the benefit of the doubt when it comes to these decisions
so i am so glad i found you actually giving your two cents about it
cuz i’ve got a lot of words for the stuff they’ve been doing and am now a bit more confident knowing i’m not alone in being somewhat upset about this stuff
The RVB stuff hurts the most for me really. I hate not having some of Monty's best work so easily available. I think his RVB work is really unrecognized. Obviously we have the great Tex vs the Reds and Blues fight as one of RTs biggest videos, but the entire series is a true goldmine. It's honestly where I think his hand to hand work shines brightest and not with Yang despite hand to hand being her primary mode of fighting. It's very flashy and memorable, but the more grounded moves in RvB shows just how technical and intimate Monty can get when it's just several characters duking it out up close.
RvB is full of flashy moments similar to the Nevermore fight from RWBY such as the frozen mountain top fight between Tex, Washington and the Meta. Yet moments like the highway heist or Tex vs York, Meta, and Wyoming show his ability to create upclose non super powery fight scenes. Honest to god watch the highway heist or any freelancer fight and it is just stellar.
Much as I appreciate the YT reuploads most of them are disorganized compilations and I missed having them in high quality while easily accessible. Seems it's time to download them for my own sake before RT inevitably goes under, which from the move of their animated superstars from YT to their main site seems to me the beginning of the RT death march.
That thing about the tabs is so weird I don’t think I’ve seen something like that before on a website. Because you’re totally right, why would they even separate those tabs if they’re just gonna activate multiple at the same time? Weird web design choice, dude
When RWBY was removed from UA-cam, I didn't switch to watching it on RoosterTeeth. I switched to watching it on a cartoon piracy site because the viewing experience there was less annoying. Less site lag, a more intuitive UI, and no unskippable ads (I should also note that I was still a First member at the time, so it's not like I was being a cheapskate. The site was that bad even with the ads removed).
Unless RT makes a *serious* improvement to their site soon (and given what you showed here, things seem to have only gotten worse in the meantime), this move is going to hurt them more than it helps.
I think a lot of the people that work there want their own show and either think they're hilarious or that the concept they have is interesting which the company gives it to them I'm not gonna say that they shouldn't have one but you made the point of there being an oversaturation of that content
For some reference for 6:13, Recreyo is another UA-cam channel thing that's basically a Podcast that's animated with the hosts going through a scenario like, can they survive X Series or just a casual quiz thing. I know this because I watch them on UA-cam pretty consistently but I had ZERO idea they were on RT. Speaking of RT, yeah all of this is pretty dumb
Recryo is a channel on youtube. They're animated skit channels.
I loved Camp Camp with my whole heart and still do, but after I heard of the voice acting changes I had a feeling everything would go downhill fast, and I suppose I wasn’t wrong.
I really hope Rooster Teeth doesn’t take Death Battle off UA-cam it’s unlikely but considering they took RWBY Camp Camp and Red vs Blue I’m starting to get a little worried
It'll happen, since Rooster Teeth is trying to pilot a luxury cruiser into the Ice Berg. Instead of trying to somewhat avoid it, but get hit anyways.
@@ArmageddonEvil I see Rooster Teeth as a 💩 surgeon the shows are the patients and the fans are the life support but I have made a ship comment before where I commented Rooster Teeth keeps sailing into rocks and the Fans are doing their best to patch up the holes to keep their favorite shows from sinking been leaning towards the life support thing though
@@darkreflection9087 I have to say, that's a pretty app'd analogy of a Surgeon that kills his patients instead of a surgeon that saves them. RT is heavily trying to kill off their own brand and it's working.
It's still immense that there are still fans who are trying to fix the holes and give the Surgeon Support or take over since he's incompetent. XD
Honestly there would be a more massive number of people attacking RT for this decision and there would be another swarm of people finding out death battle has anything to did with rooster teeth.
The only "rooster teeth" media I consume anymore is Death Battle, and it does feel like its entering a new golden age, so the thought of them potentially (not likely) going to a website I have never used sounds horrifying. I know it will never happen but I want Death Battle to fully separate from rooster teeth at this point, it feels so weird that that hasn't happened yet.
It's pronounced Reck-cree-oh, and it's originally a youtube channel of 4 friends each who are niche internet celebrities come together and create scenarios for the rest of the group to experience/playthrough, ranging from typical 'truth or dare' to 'can you survive creepypasta' and other bizzare wacky things. The main appeal is the personal interactions of the group in high stress or unlucky situations and their reactions to each other. I would recommend this series on their actual channel as they rely on it to fund their own separate projects, they have great chemistry and make tons of jokes that become running gags throughout the series.
Oh hey fellow Recreyo watcher! Tho do u know why theyre in the website? Until i saw this video today I did not realize they are - affiliated? Or what are they? Dhdjjdjd
@@CompSomAnichi same im surprised they are on there, maybe the animators are affiliated with rt but like the podcast that critter mention that its already on youtube
@@CompSomAnichi They got sponsored shortly after their season 2 premiere and has been working with them for the show ever since, though RT doesn't own Recreyo. They are just using it as a streaming service to reach a more broad audience.
I was literally just looking for Camp Camp and found this video. Why the hell would they do this?
Because animation is more expensive than they can manage on UA-cam ad money, and they've animated themselves into a corner.
@@PhoenixFireZero Though they kind of brought that on themselves when the quality of their shows dropped dramatically.
@@PhoenixFireZeroat least the 1st two seasons are on Blu-ray but not the other seasons
@@lunatic0verlord10 Among other things.
"We don't care about our audience. We just want their money." - Rooster Teeth
As with RWBY, this essentially destroys the gateway for new fans to discover the shows. Millions of people scroll through UA-cam everyday and that's how millions of people became fans of Rooster Teeth. No one is going to watch the RT shows unless they already deliberately go to the website to see them. Organically discovering the show is nigh impossible now.
I understand the ad revenue gained but putting these shows on RT's website but it still feels like something significant, perhaps something too significant, is lost.
May be writing out of my ass, but sounds as easy as posting the first season on youtube, then linking to their site for the rest.
if anything, why not put the first season on youtube? or even just the first episode?! That's how i got into granblue fantasy!
RTs website has been one of the most least user friendly things I’ve ever had to use, they get 5-10 times more ad revenue because there’s 10 ads littered throughout a free viewing of an episode. Absolutely this company will be dead within a few years if not sooner
The fact that Achievement Hunter has been dissolved and RWBY Vol 10 hasn’t been greenlit, should be a major red flag that the end is near. More than likely, Warner Bros is waiting for the RWBY X JL part 2 to drop, and if it doesn’t do well, (and it won’t) they will probably tell RT to kill the show.
I don't really watch roosterteeth after the animator scandal but dogbark seems to be like they're trying to recreate dropout's popular improv shows
Yeah it reminds of dropout in many ways.
It was absolutely done on purpose so that they could push the new stuff they’ve been creating. They know people will scroll through for the good stuff and potentially click on something new after. It is absolutely deliberate.
and a chance for subscriptions. i doubt its done for ad revenue, since that is not profitable _at all_ unless you reach a truly incredibly level of popularity.
“It’s filled with very long ad breaks, but I can’t blame them” immediately gets an ad
As of currently, Camp Camp is now something UA-cam themselves has adapted as a "free with ads" series. They even went out of there way to make sure that it was age restricted as TV-14. I don't know of Red vs Blue or RWBY yet but to people who are annoyed by the long ads on the roosterteeth website, UA-cam ads are shorter and skippable as of right now
RvB has been there to for months. I'm surprised nobody checked this.
They dont have all the camp camp ep on youtube. Then season 5 is only gonna be on rt from what ive seen
(Looking at the thumbnail)
Ruby: _“Welcome to the club.”_ 🙄
I don't think they realize that this will just lead to people watching their shows on pirating websites, because they're more user friendly and they don't have numerous, minute-long ads that will play in the middle of the show and ruin your immersion.
i didn't realize just how bad RT's numbers are these days my god
personally, I ALWAYS thought the RT site was trash - videos lagged horribly back in the day (haven't been on in a while to see if they still do) - navigating it was always a hassle, and it always felt like it was held together with duct tape and prayer! And then there's the true root of all evil, RT's TERRIBLE business decisions!!! From practically day 1, they rarely, if ever, made any good business choices. It worked for a small indie channel on youtube, but once they went corporate it was astounding they lasted so long! Just to start, they were known for their workplace toxicity for years, because they never could really shake the fact that they were supposed to be a professional business and are no long a small group of dude-bro dorm friends.
The big example is EVERYTHING INVOLVING GEN:LOCK!!! Like... that is a whole travesty and in my opinion, the true death nail for the company. That series financially crippled them, pretty much killed their new animated shows, etc...
Then there's RWBY and the constant terrible production choices there - like constantly adding new characters and assets despite having a time crunch; and rushing the writing, barely even working with a single draft of the story before animating anything, or how nothing is allowed to happen except for at the beginning and end of each volume. And then you have Ice Queendom - yay RWBY has an anime... that essentially repeats the same episode like 4 times iirc. And the various manga and other side content that just stick to the Beacon era - for good reason, it was easily the best despite all its flaws. Which is really funny when RWBY never really hinted at being a school anime, all its original trailers hinted it being more of an adventure that's on the move - like Avatar.
And lastly, BY GOD THEIR MERCH SUCKS!!! Like... they don't seem to have a creative bone in their bodies, they are sitting on a gold mine of potential and they constantly squander it. Imagine, "RWBY AS A VIDEO GAME!!!" and every attempt sucks, never capitalizing on the series strong suits toward a video game medium, hell I unironically could make a better RWBY game in a handful of months than any RT released. But then you have clothes with lazy designs, ugly plushies, cheaply made figurines (from what I heard, since they were SO DAMN EXPENSIVE despite also never really looking good - quick example being the V4 beowulf statue - the idea is neat but personally I was never a fan of the V4 outfits and it cost $400), all their mech is low quality, ugly and overpriced, which sucks because that is a perfect source of revenue collecting dust
Honestly, it’s amazing the bad decisions RT makes. RWBY and RvB got big because of UA-cam.
Sure it doesn’t make the money, but it’s a lot easier to watch stuff on UA-cam than go to another site, especially it sucks like RT’s.
I honestly love the juxtaposition between Death Battle and RT’s other series. Like DB is making numbers current RWBY and other series would kill for.
DB dub for the win.
This is saddening, that RVB has been moved behind the paywall. It shows, how Warner Bros puts too much pressure on them and how RT is desperate for money. It's sad...And funny...
Since when was Recreyo related to RT? In case anybody wants to know, Recreyo is similar to Danphan where they have a group of friends, one of them will be the host and the others will be participants. And they'll essentially be put into a situation, typically related to specific franchise, and be given a goal to complete in DnD-ish gameplay.
Recreo Is like their own little organization with own chanal was shocked to see that they were on the ruster teeth site at all
me too, i had NO idea they were also on rooster teeth as well lol
I was about to make a comment about that like why the hell is recreyo on that site?
I feel like rooster teeth suffered from lack of focus and bad management. And apparently sex scandals. Thats why AH was canceled. Dog park is exactly like a Drew Carey's green show. Lasted one season. Yes that native thumbnail was supposed to be shocking but ive met red hair pale skin people who are part of tribes so not that big of a deal.
Watching RT go through with these choices is like walking past your best friend from high school passed out on the road surrounded by beer bottles.
All you can do is shake your head and think: "Man, you used to be cool."
That or "Why did you not listen to us?"
I love how the most popular rooster teeth related videos on youtube aren't even any of their podcasts originals series. Its the shows that they acquire like Death battle, even Recreyo get at least 100k a video, compare that to their Rooster teeth content, its night and day Q~Q
There was a whole Camp Camp episode about a big, greedy corporation buying Camp Campbell, ironic and sad to see they've become the thing they were making fun of. I respect their decisions as much as I can but this is infuriating, and doesn't even benefit them in the long run the way you'd think
(Ok but seriously, my boy Preston would love making a play out of this ironic tragedy, my fellow Camp Camp enthusiasts know what I mean)
Rt is a victim of its own devices
All the controversy, rash choices, public opinion are biting rt harshly
"Stupidity wins again." -SeaNanners, 2021
“We get five to ten times more revenue on ads on our site” ya because you have 5-10x more ads each video than UA-cam. Multi ad spam commercial breaks, like cable TV, because nothing screams “relevant” and “not dying” like mimicking cable tv. 😅
I feel like you wouldn’t review Gen:Lock season 2 even if you were paid to and I honestly wouldn’t blame you.
I was 100% planning on reviewing it, but I got halfway through the third episode, and hated it so much I refused to watch the rest of it.
@@thejudgmentalcritter6584 OOF.
@@thejudgmentalcritter6584 yeah, and it only gets more offensive from there. It’s like the people behind this season ruined it on purpose for some reason. There’s no way they looked at the finished product and said, “This is good.😀”
I've watched three seasons of RWBY and RvB and at least an episode of Camp Camp, but nothing of Gen Lock. How bad could this be, to warrant all the hatred I've seen?
@@thejudgmentalcritter6584 uh, what went wrong with Gen:Lock exactly?
I haven't watched AH since like 2021 but did they really just get rid of it. To me, at least, I think playing games is probably going to get more views/be more relevant than an improv show. It seems like such a weird move.
What's also weird, is they announced they're bringing back On the Spot, so RT is going to have 2 different improv shows running at the same time?
Which is kinda depressing. Original content doesn't sell and demands a sizable budget but the show that's just dudes playing a video game makes bank. Can hardly blame a creative type for giving up when they see that kind of thing.
@@thejudgmentalcritter6584From what I've heard the main reason Achievement Hunter was shut down is because some of the AH guys were having contests to see who could bang the most amount of groupies and got found out
Geoff mentioned it in the last episode, rehashing their first episode, that he wanted everyone to expand, that it was time for them to move on and he was happy Michael/Alfredo/Trevor/Joe were giving it the proper goodbye. Everyone has moved on to "bigger and better" things now and the team deserve it. The send of video was great, and I loved it. Will miss AH for sure.
Luckily Death Battle seems to actually understand how to get funded. Not only is using popular characters already a boost in views, but Death Battle has a UA-cam membership system that actually gives amazing rewards to fans who directly support its creators so they can put more money into the episodes. And yeah, making Death Battle isn’t as expensive or creatively daunting as RVB, Camp Camp, or RWBY, but you gotta admire that they’ve managed to keep things pretty consistently solid over there.
12:47 290 times 4 equals 1160 a month, doesnt derail the whole point but how badly did rooster teeth hurt you
Oh dang, you're right?! Wtf, I used a calculator and everything, how did I get it that wrong? Lol I'm so bad at math it made my phone calculator more stupid too! XD
Man, I remember when RT told me to stop watching if I didn't subscribe to their morals. That was the day I canceled my paid membership. After all the bullshit coming out l've thrown away everything with their brand on it and I'm better for it.
The weird thing is: I don't regret the time I spent watching, but I also don't miss them either.
It’s disgusting, they aren’t smart people for telling people to stop watching if you don’t agree with their unrealistic beliefs
The name Dog Bark and them standing in line in plain colored tee-shirts on Teletubby Hill made me think they were making their own version of The Wiggles. I NEVER would have guessed it was a comedy show.
Before they shut down they better archive all their shows on yt and leave with some dignity to their name. Just leave us with our happy memories
You should totally watch Recreyo! It's basically a bunch of Storytime animators improving their way through challenges relating to popular media, like Danganronpa or SCP. It's a lot of fun! I didn't know they were funded by Rooster Teeth though- since they have their own channel that never mentioned Rooster Teeth at all.
millennials and gen-x trying to make internet shows isn't working anymore, they have no idea what kind of content to produce for a modern audience
I don’t get how a company that’s been around for over a decade can be so bad at promoting their shows (and supplemental material). I’ve always been a casual viewer of RT’s content. I’m never on twitter, I dont get their videos in my recommendation feed, I don’t want to go all the way to Texas for RTX just to get updates on things I might be interested in.
I think they took all the wrong lessons from RWBY's success.
They just started pumping out animation after animation, with maybe 1 or 2 trailers each, then moving on to the next when it didn't hit RWBY numbers.
So here's the thing: With those videos on UA-cam, they made *SOME* money. Perhaps not too much, but they made some passively as time went on.
By removing them, now they earn *ZERO* from the channel that had them - and incidentally, also shoves their channel down the YT algorithm and will make it incredibly less popular as it suddenly lost millions of views in seconds. All for what, to put the same videos on their page?
Let's be realistic. Do they think I'm THAT desperate? Even if they put ten times the ads a single person would see on UA-cam, it ain't even close to earning the same, not even bring earning MORE, because people won't go out of their way to exclusively check their shit on their page rather than here, where you can check everyone's shit. Their channels and their communities are bleeding to death because of stupid dumbass moves and this doesn't help.
Specially because, guess what? People will just download their series and reupload them in pages without those ads, or visit their page with all matter of adblockers. Their page is still shit and people will go out of their way to avoid using it. So in the end, RoosterTeeth went out of their way to make any remaining fan out there have it worse for nothing. Ain't that great.
Would love to see another price is wrong episode! Doesn’t have to be ruby merch could be anything just like the concept
Rooster teeth went from peak childhood
Rooster theeth now animation version of actavision blizzard
At least ActiBlizz still makes things people enjoy.
@@PhoenixFireZero overwatch 2s steam reviews woud like a word also not just their media how they treat employees
Not surprising Death Battle is doing so well when Bill VS Discord clears everything RT has done in at least the last few years
6:22 Recreyo which you said correctly is like an Animated "what if" scenario youtube channel with 5 hosts each video one of the hosts has the other 4 hosts go through the scenario they chose. Like "Would we survive Code Lyoko?" or "Would we survive birdbox?" Sometimes they ave guests
I mean they have a “What If” show in Death Battle that’s doing numbers
Holy crap. A critter take I 100% agree with. Been a while since that happened. Anyway, do remember Death Battle also has their own channel membership program with exclusive videos and access to the discord, so they're also getting funding from viewers as well. I've just been lucky to be gifted memberships on casts.
The main reason I think DB is doing so well is because they were established and popular before RT bought them and so, their numbers didn't really drop because of RT owning them. Sure they made battles of RWBY vs blank but DB almost seems separate from RT anyway so even if RT dies, DB will likely survive
And yes, RT fans will defend this and everything else horrible they will do. It's amazing how much glue they'll eat and Kool aid they'll drink! 😂
And thus, RoosterTeeth is dead.
Okay so these are all obviously horrible business decisions and it is clear RT does not have effective leadership but also *what do you MEAN there's **_RWBY Vtubers???_* Are you telling me there's like, Yang Xiao Long Try Not To Laugh compilation reaction videos? *Can I watch my favourite character Flynt Cole do a Minecraft LP and be traumatized about his acquisition of basic tools for the game?*
At this point, Rooster Teeth is begging to be bankrupt. I mean after all of the eye rolling decisions they’ve been making since Monty Oum’s death in 2015, the company has been further alienating themselves from the fans who supported their business since 2003. I think shows like Camp Camp, Red Vs Blue and Rwby are better off with other companies like Amazon, Paramount, Netflix and Sony.
I hate what they’re doing to RVB
@@TheCrunchbite What about RWBY, Camp Camp, Gen:Lock and Nomad of Nowhere?
Yeah sure give those IP to an even bigger conglomerate for them to milk it even further.
The best outcome for these beloved RT shows is if somehow a very small group of loyal fans got control of them. Quality in media comes from intention of creation. Shows made to make money will always be shit, but shows made out of real love and the desire to actually make something people will be emotionally invested in for years are those shows that changes peoples lives.
6:13 I watch Recreyo wait why are they there
They got picked up unofficially by RT so it airs there along with their UA-cam
Deathbattle is GOATED highly recommend it.
As a Recreyo fan, I HIGHLY reccommend you check it out. It's about the members being lead through different scenarios (some being original, others based on different proporties). The group chemistry is hilarious, and the episodes are also partially animated. Really reccommend you give it a try, the episodes are also on UA-cam (also good video, Rooster Teeth is a baffiling train wreck to witness)
Rooster Teeth truly has lived long enough to become the villain.
To me, they became the villain when they did not heed our warnings on Miles and Kerry's true nature
@@broden4838 What was their true nature?
@@Vigriff They are incompetent, egotistical, and the fact of them taking criticism as attacks towards them, and I suspect they are manipulative as well
@@broden4838 Sounds about right.
Helluva Boss actually has patreon that helps them too.
And Helluva Boss is also really good.
My brother in christ, i was trying to show RWBY to my roomie this past week and we started on YT (reuploads) and it was hell, then changed to RT and all their adds were AWFUL so we had to go to a fucking pirate site to SEE RWBY AT PEACE. Like, cmon , i miss the old days, i really wanted to do a Camp Camp marathon to prepare for the new season but thinkin about watching it ALL on RT's website makes me wanna puke.
If I were to guess RT invested WAY too much into their “personalities” pseudo celebrities that cost a ton of money and likely have even more pulling weight in company decisions. No one cares about those guys, maybe 10 years ago the faces of achievement hunter had some cultural relevance but by now they are worthless. However because those people have so much pulling power that, they are the only thing that gets investment and promotion, even if the only somewhat profitable things are the animations.
RT is famous for having an issue with their frat culture. The employee reviews and all the scandals have proven it tenfold.
Since animation costs so much, RT struggles to justify investing in it, while also having all their friends on payroll. They can’t fire their friends because they run the company and as such are a financial and creative black hole.
It is sad to see one of the first “UA-cam companies” die but that is life
I care nothing about Camp Camp or Rooster's Teeth's podcasts, but Red vs Blue holds a special place on UA-cam since RVB was born on UA-cam. It's incredibly stupid of Rooster Teeth to take their RVB channel down and stuff the series into a barely functional website. I even made a private RVB playlist for my viewing pleasure, but it's almost entirely vacant now. And after seeing all the crap they have on their website, I don't feel like going there to watch my favorite RT content.
Talk about timing as you said "I cant blame them, i was hit by an ad break."
Hey, I'm subed to RECREYO, their hallarious. That's a solid grabb for RT.
I also want to push back on that ending bit there. As youtube might be a good place to watch shows, but that doesn't mean they are good for shows. Helluvaboss itself is more of the exception to the rule than the rule. Helluvaboss isn't funded through youtbe because there is no way thats monetized it couldn't even be funded entirely with their merch either. Their studio spendel horse actually has some bigg backers behind it and even sold their primary show hazbin hotel to a major a major streaming service. Even then, their production hasn't always been great. Only two episodes came out in 2022 and couldn't even show their season one, finally on time, because of legal issues involving Kesha writhing a song for them.
UA-cam just hasn't been a stable place for long-running animated series. Im surprised RT shows stayed this long and didn't leave or vanish all together like Bravest warriors or Epitate Erased.
I prefer youtube to watch.
Maybe they'd be making more money if they hadn't royally screwed over their animation department. But then again that's all I really tuned in for in the first place so I'm biased.
16:29 because people watch Death Battle
Edit it’s actually entertaining
I used to be sad at RT's downfall... and then all of my favorite members left and started streaming with Ray so now im watching the fireworks.
I've had the same thought for so long. Like RVB and RWBY are the biggest and most defining thing they have. Yet they promote everything else like its just as good. Creates resentment for me not to watch the new stuff. Like why should I pay for first when I'm not guaranteed next volume will even be on first.
seeing ScrewAttack channel turned to just Death Battle channel ever since they become part of Rooster Teeth and remove stuff that SA vids made even way before DB, it is not surprise for me anyways... I wouldn't be surprised if RT removed some vids from the Achievement Hunter vids.
Death Battle is the only good thing RT has nowadays. Everything else is dogturd.
I feels this is like this was somehow inspired by dropout. But without the talent to make improv and other comedy work but an animation section to try and draw people in.
I don't think it's nitpicky at all to hate mr beast style thumbnails
They want so badly to be old Smosh oh and those buzzfeed guys, that it crumples your insides like paper.
As a huge fan of RvB but pretty much no other RT stuff, this was super annoyingly because RvB is actually MISSING CONTENT on their site! And some episodes are locked in 480p! And few have subtitles! Also a good chunk of their content is still YT exclusive, meaning now you have to look in two places to find content. All the versions and sagas of RvB are listed as different series on RT too, making it even harder to find what you want. And they aren’t in the proper watch order!
And it came out of left field because if you don’t follow RT as a whole, then you wouldn’t know this was coming.
A good chunk of the community just pirates now. Even with the subreddit mods deleting posts, they can’t do it fast enough to stop the sharing of download packs for RvB.
Edit: Another thing with the advertising: nobody I talk to my age knows what RvB is. Many have heard of Rooster Teeth or RWBY, but don’t watch it and have just heard of it. Many don’t realize RvB is how Rooster Teeth got started, or realize that it went way beyond just a Halo machinima. Obviously I’m biased in favor of RvB over other RT stuff, but I mean cmon, you could advertise it so at least people have heard the name the same way they vaguely know of RWBY, since that would make it way easier for fans to help get the show new fans. I myself only discovered RvB like a little over a year ago because I had been starting to slightly get into Halo and thought a “rise and fall of Red vs Blue” was going to be about Halo (funnily enough, I never really got into Halo until AFTER I saw Red vs Blue). After around a year of loving the show, and trying to share it with friends, I got ONE friend to watch it, only because they’re one my best friends since childhood and also I agreed to watch a show they liked in exchange. And once he started watching, he really liked it! The thing was, it just took a while to convince him to watch. That’s the issue. Most people that watch the show like it, but its hard to convince them to watch it. For RvB it’s especially hard because its a Halo machinima, which is an instant detriment to perceived production value. Most people in the community, from what I can tell, are people that grew up on RvB. There is a big lack of new fans, at least from what I can tell based on the Reddit and various Discord fan servers.
They just released a new RT podcast, it was 15 mins long and I didn't know any of the 3 people. All of the OG cast are gone or almost never involved in videos anymore. They killed the best channel, For me RTs uniqueness is gone and the new stuff is no different than the 10,000 other "goofy and crazy" streamers.
Plot twist: only critter is using the website amd thats why S1 is trending
RT's marketing is baffling. Every new season of RWBY, I have to find out when the premier is by hunting around on twitter. I have to find out what time it's airing from twitter, or random forums. I didn't find out about Ice Queendom till like a week before it started coming out. I mean, I'd imagine that like, information on upcoming seasons of one of your most popular shows SHOULD be easy to find on the site it's airing on? I had to search bar search for the newest episodes some weeks. It was just so hard to find. Was I doing it wrong? And then they moved it all to crunchy roll! Mystifying.
YES! like, even now, they've posted a thing about the Part 2 of the Justice league movie, and it's like "Coming SOON".
When is "soon?" what does that mean?! Turns out there IS a release date and it' like, next week! why not give the actual numbered date in your teaser?! Why just say "Soon"?!
Like cant they have a pr and website manager? And if,wtf is he doing.
Ill be honest. Even when i was a big fan of RT, when i kinda liked them, when i thought they started going downhill etc. there has never once been a point where I liked their website lol. This seems way worse than the last time i was there though