Is there any potential for autonomous passenger flight? For the small eVTOLs proposed by companies like Joby that only carry up to four passengers, labor costs for pilots are going to be a huge part of cost of operations. I don’t expect to see autonomous flights with passengers next year, but this will clearly be very important to electric aircraft economics.
A trip from lax to Santa Barbara on Uber can be easily be $250 in uber for a 3 hour drive. I would pay the same or a bit more in a heartbeat for an hour flight. I would not discard EVTOLS so easily . There are some possibilities and this video is made with today assumptions and helicopter assumptions. If helicopters were quieter, they will be everywhere.
I don't understand what "mesh of network" will look like that can support this new type of mobility. It's a complex problem and need a lot of capital to solve it.
So many people are going to lose their shirts in this market. Although there are some *very* small edge-cases the problem all eVTOL developers face at this time is that, given current levels of battery technology, there is just no way this is going to be commercially viable. While I'm sure we'll see some "proof of concept" services launched they will not make a profit until such time as we see significant improvements in the energy density, lifespan (charge/discharge cycles) and cost of batteries. Aircraft make zero money unless they're flying and it takes an order of magnitude longer to recharge an eVTOL than it does to refuel a conventional helicopter. Then there's the big question: is there really a market for eVTOL services? I mean, we already have helicopters that can deliver the same service using proven technology at commercially viable price-points so how will electrifying this actually result in growth of what is such a small market? Too many 3D renders, fancy animations and promises of profit when the reality is that nobody is going to have a commercially viable product/service for at least 8-10 years.
Existing helicopters have a huge problem - they are LOUD. Electric VTOL could be 10x quieter. That means you can have way more flights in densely populated areas flying at lower altitudes without creating a public nuisance. Still they have to be super safe and have lots of landing locations or I don’t think it will make sense. A lot of risk, but lots of potential.
@@mcRydes I'd swap a little noise for greatly increased safety any day of the week... and besides which, these eVTOL craft are *not* as quiet as you might think. In fact, most small helicopters will be quieter.
@@xjet well the proof will be in the pudding as they say. Joby’s aircraft could be flying from Manhattan as soon as next year. They are the ones claiming they can fly quietly, so we’ll soon see.
You have forgot to invite the biggest player in this sector, Eve which has the biggest backlog of the industry, with 22% of the market share, and also developing the UAM. Very biased analises
The companies invited were meant to represent ideas from various corners of the industry that make up the eVTOL ecosystem, but obviously could not include all of the potential OEMs. At this stage of the AAM journey, it's not clear that Eve would have said anything radically different than Supernal, for example. We have covered and interviewed Eve, and will continue to do so in the future.
Do you have any idea land location construction…..it’s crazy the sweet spot missed what are you gaining……don’t forget FAA ITS NOT HAPPENING…….HELECOPTER
Is there any potential for autonomous passenger flight? For the small eVTOLs proposed by companies like Joby that only carry up to four passengers, labor costs for pilots are going to be a huge part of cost of operations. I don’t expect to see autonomous flights with passengers next year, but this will clearly be very important to electric aircraft economics.
A trip from lax to Santa Barbara on Uber can be easily be $250 in uber for a 3 hour drive. I would pay the same or a bit more in a heartbeat for an hour flight. I would not discard EVTOLS so easily . There are some possibilities and this video is made with today assumptions and helicopter assumptions. If helicopters were quieter, they will be everywhere.
I don't understand what "mesh of network" will look like that can support this new type of mobility. It's a complex problem and need a lot of capital to solve it.
So many people are going to lose their shirts in this market. Although there are some *very* small edge-cases the problem all eVTOL developers face at this time is that, given current levels of battery technology, there is just no way this is going to be commercially viable.
While I'm sure we'll see some "proof of concept" services launched they will not make a profit until such time as we see significant improvements in the energy density, lifespan (charge/discharge cycles) and cost of batteries. Aircraft make zero money unless they're flying and it takes an order of magnitude longer to recharge an eVTOL than it does to refuel a conventional helicopter.
Then there's the big question: is there really a market for eVTOL services?
I mean, we already have helicopters that can deliver the same service using proven technology at commercially viable price-points so how will electrifying this actually result in growth of what is such a small market?
Too many 3D renders, fancy animations and promises of profit when the reality is that nobody is going to have a commercially viable product/service for at least 8-10 years.
How about doing some researches ?
@@jonpetter8921 I have!
Existing helicopters have a huge problem - they are LOUD. Electric VTOL could be 10x quieter. That means you can have way more flights in densely populated areas flying at lower altitudes without creating a public nuisance. Still they have to be super safe and have lots of landing locations or I don’t think it will make sense. A lot of risk, but lots of potential.
@@mcRydes I'd swap a little noise for greatly increased safety any day of the week... and besides which, these eVTOL craft are *not* as quiet as you might think. In fact, most small helicopters will be quieter.
@@xjet well the proof will be in the pudding as they say. Joby’s aircraft could be flying from Manhattan as soon as next year. They are the ones claiming they can fly quietly, so we’ll soon see.
You have forgot to invite the biggest player in this sector, Eve which has the biggest backlog of the industry, with 22% of the market share, and also developing the UAM. Very biased analises
The companies invited were meant to represent ideas from various corners of the industry that make up the eVTOL ecosystem, but obviously could not include all of the potential OEMs. At this stage of the AAM journey, it's not clear that Eve would have said anything radically different than Supernal, for example. We have covered and interviewed Eve, and will continue to do so in the future.
Great conversation and discussion with some of the key players in this exciting new era😁👍
Do you have any idea land location construction…..it’s crazy the sweet spot missed what are you gaining……don’t forget FAA
ITS NOT HAPPENING…….HELECOPTER