They keep the battlepass cheap for the low spenders so they can continue to push 60$ knives and 100$ operator skin gambles to the big spenders without community outcry. It’s brilliant by their marketing dept
I thought that the battle pass was PtW because the 2x3 safe box, but then I saw that you unlock a bigger 3x3 safebox just by doing missions. so even that can "bettered" by just playing the game. and yes you get ammo and weapon rewards in the battle pass, but you get better ammo and weapons by doing missions. the majority of the stuff you get in the battle pass is either cosmetic or xp boosters for Warfare mode. The operation rewards are mostly meh. But it is a free game, so they have to make their money somehow. Once you level up your black site, I craft purple, gold, and red ammo 24/7 .
This is Really Scary... delta might have figured out how to do a reasonable battle pass, and thats gonna give people more reason to stop playing CoD. and if everyone stops play CoD then the Devs MIGHT be forced to actually make a good game!
The gold ammo crates are almost at the end of the battlepass, by the time you get to unlock those the season is well into its 3rd or 4th week, which means you should already have the gear to take those on. Also, the people that buy the whole battlepass are very rare. You cant argue that you only die because everyone bought the whole battlepass..
But, it's just for a season. For DMZ I bought multiple characters because I wanted the player characters. In Delta, tbh, it's so easy to make money and get ammo that it doesn't matter where other people have got their Gold ammo. It's the cheats in EU that are making the game unplayable
its not P2W but it is Pay For Advantage. The battlepass gives gear crates, med crates AANNDD.... AMMO crates both blue and purple. purple being rarer but it still gives them meaning youre not as reliant on ammo production. for those that dont pay for the battlepass youre missing out significantly on more ammo being given to those that pay for the pass.
It’s more than fine if you pay only 6/10 bucks to get more advantage. Even if you don’t pay which I do, you get tons of these cases and XP for warfare which is not that big advantage compared to free version
Actually you can in fact open the ammo packs and then proceeded to sell the ammo from the ammo packs I did that last night to make up some cash I needed for level 7 storage upgrade
I would argue that getting ammo from battlepass means more ammo in circulation = cheaper ammo for the F2P players (I dont really see a difference in F2P and P2W in this game btw)
Discord squads are what's OP in this game nothing else, if you don't have a good team half the battles lost. But that's like most games. Golds a little OP but the rest is fine, there's free guns scattered around the map in crates. People who struggle are the one's bad at money management you can easily go from a knife to normal mode and start making money quick
The battlepass in delta force is like the different versions of tarkov to me. You get the biggest safe pockets and all the gear you get along the way is just about equal to the extra stuff you would get from EOD or unheard of or whatever the new 250 is or whatever the fuck battlestate is doing
for every season we have to pay money for battlepass? or like cod we got cod points for further pass...so there we need to pay only for one time in call of duty
I dont have any idea about extraction, I dont playing it and I will not, thats me but it is! As far as it goes for the battlefield mode, yes you can upgrade weapons with tokens etc but you have to take in count that basic weapons and or starter weapons are strong enough and you can upgrade them easy by playing, you dont need tokens to upgrade weapons and enjoy the game. Its a very casual game and you dont have to sweat to do the dailies for example etc. Thats a huge difference from Battlefield and the game is overall more enjoyable, EA and DICE must give a big consideration about the next Battlefield thats what I'm saying!
#QUESTION :❓❓❓❓Can i save these legendary weapon packs for the future or will it get removed automatically once the season is over ??? Even if i have or havenot purchased a battle pass ??
Doesn’t matter the amount of gold or purple ammo you have if you’re shit at the game you’re just shit 🤷🏽♂️ at the end of the day it’s a skill based game you can have gold ammo but a player with blue ammo will still dog on you if you’re bad. They will obviously have to have some form of incentive in the game to get people to spend money.
2:35 holy shit that's pay to win people that dont pay dont get to extract with a red quality item that perfectly fits that box picture this: one battle pass guy finds a 2x3 red quality item, he puts it in the safe box and he gets 500k+ guaranteed. meanwhile a 2x2 safe box guy finds a 2x3 red quality item...he is doomed to carry it til exfil. how the fuck do you not see this? 3:39 yeah people dont realize it
Yes, Delta Force is very VERY partially p2w. The only upside is that this is way WAY less atrocious than things like EFT, DMZ, etc. that have 70-80$ p2w aspects that turn necessary. And anyways, if you have gotten to the point that you are constantly grabbing red items, then you should be able to extract comfortably at that level.
@@sirundying it's so ironic to see a muppet like you calling others muppets "just spend 80+ hours doing missions, you'll be able to even the playing field!" players can swipe and get a 2x3 box instantly. meanwhile if players dont do it they're stuck with a 2x2 for hours upon hours it's pay to win, pay to get an advantage over others. how are you so blind?
@SabraHummusMan what in the world is this cope? there's pay to win, then there are paywall games. partial pay to win? what an idiotic term. if a player pays and gets an advantage from doing so, then it's p2w. no amount of cope and mental gymnastics can deny this. and no, my scenario isnt meant for people that cinstantly get reds. i got a friend that could potentially have saved a red item he found had he swiped for the 2x3 crate. it was a very rare find for him.
My guy, if you want to argue that Delta is P2W, at least argue about all the gifts BP gives you. The 2x3 safe is the smallest P2W aspect. It's more like "pay to maybe get rich if you get lucky." I found my first red 3x2 item after 80 hours of playtime, while my friend found a 3x3 red item after just 25 hours. Comparing this to Arena, which is the direct chinese competitor Tarkov wannabe, where you can buy 10 million Koens with a card payment, Delta is far from being the same level of P2W. You're focusing on the wrong thing. The real P2W lies in all the gifts you receive by completing the BP. I think I’ve received hundreds of blue and purple bullets and a bunch of purple gear sets. I'd estimate that once you level up your BP, you get around 10 million in loot or even more, BUT it's not an instant buy of ingame currency like in Arena. Is it P2W? Yes, but I view it more as a pay-to-win in the long run. So what now? This is the most fun extraction shooter on the market right now. What multiplayer shooter are you playing that you are so upset about DF's p2w?
you can sell the ammo for millions on the auction which is the only bad thing i can see coming from this but i'm not complaining yet if everyone started buying the pass and selling ammo the market could be flooded with purple rounds which would be REALLY funny
I never played Delta Force so forgive my ignorance but can you obtain the battlepass for free and is the battlepass a 1 time purchase and the battlepass will give you enough currency so you can purchase future battlepass like a return investment or is it 1 time purchase? I know Arena Breakout battlepass is 1 time purchase is it same on Delta Force? Or do you get the currency back aslong as you've progressed into the battlepass
when I purchased the battlepass there was 43 days left i believe lol, Season 1 was released the same date Delta was released, on December 5th, it has been 18 days today December 23rd, 18+26 days makes a total of 44 days.
Imho, this might be best free to play shooter yet in terms of "P2W". You can get a lot of stuff for literally spare change, its like what, in US 2-3 beers? From where iam, if i were to buy beer in pub or restaurant, it would be like 4-5 max. And its for whole season. Economy seems fine, they throw free stuff at you and you cant but ingame currency which is HUGE in F2P game. For what this game offers and how its polished (iam yet to encounter gamebraking bug or issue), i can overlook few bucks battlepass that gives you good ammo. You cant even get it at once unless you spend unholy ammounts of money so iam fine with that. They gotta make money somehow and if it means that i will run into one squad with that ammo and kit per 20 runs on easy where i regain some cash, i dont really care.
Battlepass is not a pay to win , u got the same stuff in Leauge of Legends ... So yea also safe like 3x3 its so nice because u can grab more nice stuff in the game , so guyz just buy it and farm it :P
the battle pass is like 11 bux for both modes. its $7 for one mode or the other. if that's pay to win you better get off the game and go git gud at life.
Hello, yea even i think battlepass is P2W with ammo and kits, but if you are not good enough, you all lose it in first game. The box is really great but for ingame time, you can get better (3x3) from missions. In the end P2W vs F2P after some hours will be at same gear, same everything so its w/e. BP is really good priced in comparison to other games where it cost double the price and its not really good value. I mean, let developers have some money, game is free to play, meeting less and less cheaters ingame every day. Its fun as F2P (with BP only) player and game is amazing. Have a nice day.
Brother do u want the game to put advertisement panels in map and go full ads on the menus to pay the developers this is a business what do u expect the game is fun I'm not hurting from it i don't say when i die i only died because i don't have battlepass it's simple man just leave it
If there was wipes every 30-40 days and it was a new battle pass at the same time, then that would be more troublesome i think since u could just max the battle pass out right away and get all the purple/gold stuff and just go smash newbies with blue gear at the start of the season. Since there is no wipe, i think it's not that bad and is fine the way it is. (The price is cheap since the battle pass is split up aswell)
a game being pay to win doesnt mean u have to pay to win so yeah this game is 100% pay to win. im srry to say this but if you dont think delta force is p2w then you dont understand the term p2w. it doesnt matter if people complain or not, a fact is a fact
Good and bad of Delta: ua-cam.com/video/OPdFbNFL9Hs/v-deo.htmlsi=J3zoFDVhw2qg2qZy
They keep the battlepass cheap for the low spenders so they can continue to push 60$ knives and 100$ operator skin gambles to the big spenders without community outcry. It’s brilliant by their marketing dept
Eh, they could do both very expensive and no one would give a f, if "community outcry" was really relevant, we wouldn't have those systems at all.
Any game I like enough to put some decent time into I'll go ahead and throw $10 here and there for the battle passes but that's it.
I thought that the battle pass was PtW because the 2x3 safe box, but then I saw that you unlock a bigger 3x3 safebox just by doing missions. so even that can "bettered" by just playing the game. and yes you get ammo and weapon rewards in the battle pass, but you get better ammo and weapons by doing missions. the majority of the stuff you get in the battle pass is either cosmetic or xp boosters for Warfare mode. The operation rewards are mostly meh.
But it is a free game, so they have to make their money somehow. Once you level up your black site, I craft purple, gold, and red ammo 24/7 .
Too me. It's better than activision
bars pretty low on that one 🤣
This is Really Scary... delta might have figured out how to do a reasonable battle pass, and thats gonna give people more reason to stop playing CoD. and if everyone stops play CoD then the Devs MIGHT be forced to actually make a good game!
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The gold ammo crates are almost at the end of the battlepass, by the time you get to unlock those the season is well into its 3rd or 4th week, which means you should already have the gear to take those on.
Also, the people that buy the whole battlepass are very rare. You cant argue that you only die because everyone bought the whole battlepass..
If the 2*3 was permanent and not for a season, I would buy it right now. The rest, Either craft or loot. Making money in the game is easy tbh
But, it's just for a season. For DMZ I bought multiple characters because I wanted the player characters. In Delta, tbh, it's so easy to make money and get ammo that it doesn't matter where other people have got their Gold ammo. It's the cheats in EU that are making the game unplayable
Even though you technically can sell the ammo and stuff from the battle pass. In most cases you're better off just using it instead.
its not P2W but it is Pay For Advantage. The battlepass gives gear crates, med crates AANNDD.... AMMO crates both blue and purple. purple being rarer but it still gives them meaning youre not as reliant on ammo production. for those that dont pay for the battlepass youre missing out significantly on more ammo being given to those that pay for the pass.
It’s more than fine if you pay only 6/10 bucks to get more advantage. Even if you don’t pay which I do, you get tons of these cases and XP for warfare which is not that big advantage compared to free version
Also remember the stuff the battle pass gives goes into the round. So someone has a chance to get it if they can kill the players
Actually you can in fact open the ammo packs and then proceeded to sell the ammo from the ammo packs I did that last night to make up some cash I needed for level 7 storage upgrade
I would argue that getting ammo from battlepass means more ammo in circulation = cheaper ammo for the F2P players (I dont really see a difference in F2P and P2W in this game btw)
it is correct, this week most purple ammo has decreased in price.
@@fasi247 if ur f2p you rarely sell ammo IMO, but if you want to finish the thoughtprocess, go ahead, it's an infinite cycle of actions 🫤
Battle pass was available in the beginning which would have been 60 days.
Discord squads are what's OP in this game nothing else, if you don't have a good team half the battles lost. But that's like most games.
Golds a little OP but the rest is fine, there's free guns scattered around the map in crates.
People who struggle are the one's bad at money management you can easily go from a knife to normal mode and start making money quick
PLZ Help .. If I bought Operation Special SP .. Will have all items in pass or just OPS items not warfare ??? Plz Respond
So if you pay for battle pass can U get next season battle pass within the battle pass?
probably
Curious also
The game is great, I hope it succeeds. The pass seems alright.
The battlepass in delta force is like the different versions of tarkov to me. You get the biggest safe pockets and all the gear you get along the way is just about equal to the extra stuff you would get from EOD or unheard of or whatever the new 250 is or whatever the fuck battlestate is doing
might get to pay money for good ammo but you still gotta play a hell of alot to get to it
for every season we have to pay money for battlepass? or like cod we got cod points for further pass...so there we need to pay only for one time in call of duty
wondering the same thing
I dont have any idea about extraction, I dont playing it and I will not, thats me but it is!
As far as it goes for the battlefield mode, yes you can upgrade weapons with tokens etc but you have to take in count that basic weapons and or starter weapons are strong enough and you can upgrade them easy by playing, you dont need tokens to upgrade weapons and enjoy the game.
Its a very casual game and you dont have to sweat to do the dailies for example etc.
Thats a huge difference from Battlefield and the game is overall more enjoyable, EA and DICE must give a big consideration about the next Battlefield thats what I'm saying!
The fact u start with attachments u locked is awesome yoo
#QUESTION :❓❓❓❓Can i save these legendary weapon packs for the future or will it get removed automatically once the season is over ??? Even if i have or havenot purchased a battle pass ??
I think u can save, I don’t see an expiration but not certain yet as this is first season
@StoneMountainMoments ok thanks mate !! 👍
I remember the thermal scope that you can get only in a bundle in COD that is so OP... you dont get anything like that in this game
Doesn’t matter the amount of gold or purple ammo you have if you’re shit at the game you’re just shit 🤷🏽♂️ at the end of the day it’s a skill based game you can have gold ammo but a player with blue ammo will still dog on you if you’re bad.
They will obviously have to have some form of incentive in the game to get people to spend money.
2:35 holy shit that's pay to win
people that dont pay dont get to extract with a red quality item that perfectly fits that box
picture this: one battle pass guy finds a 2x3 red quality item, he puts it in the safe box and he gets 500k+ guaranteed.
meanwhile a 2x2 safe box guy finds a 2x3 red quality item...he is doomed to carry it til exfil.
how the fuck do you not see this?
3:39 yeah people dont realize it
Yes, Delta Force is very VERY partially p2w. The only upside is that this is way WAY less atrocious than things like EFT, DMZ, etc. that have 70-80$ p2w aspects that turn necessary. And anyways, if you have gotten to the point that you are constantly grabbing red items, then you should be able to extract comfortably at that level.
ppl like you are muppets, its not pay to win. also the game gives you a 3x3 by completing quests and thers no wipe, so whats the problem ?
@@sirundying it's so ironic to see a muppet like you calling others muppets
"just spend 80+ hours doing missions, you'll be able to even the playing field!"
players can swipe and get a 2x3 box instantly. meanwhile if players dont do it they're stuck with a 2x2 for hours upon hours
it's pay to win, pay to get an advantage over others. how are you so blind?
@SabraHummusMan what in the world is this cope? there's pay to win, then there are paywall games.
partial pay to win? what an idiotic term.
if a player pays and gets an advantage from doing so, then it's p2w. no amount of cope and mental gymnastics can deny this.
and no, my scenario isnt meant for people that cinstantly get reds. i got a friend that could potentially have saved a red item he found had he swiped for the 2x3 crate. it was a very rare find for him.
My guy, if you want to argue that Delta is P2W, at least argue about all the gifts BP gives you. The 2x3 safe is the smallest P2W aspect. It's more like "pay to maybe get rich if you get lucky." I found my first red 3x2 item after 80 hours of playtime, while my friend found a 3x3 red item after just 25 hours.
Comparing this to Arena, which is the direct chinese competitor Tarkov wannabe, where you can buy 10 million Koens with a card payment, Delta is far from being the same level of P2W. You're focusing on the wrong thing. The real P2W lies in all the gifts you receive by completing the BP. I think I’ve received hundreds of blue and purple bullets and a bunch of purple gear sets.
I'd estimate that once you level up your BP, you get around 10 million in loot or even more, BUT it's not an instant buy of ingame currency like in Arena. Is it P2W? Yes, but I view it more as a pay-to-win in the long run.
So what now? This is the most fun extraction shooter on the market right now. What multiplayer shooter are you playing that you are so upset about DF's p2w?
but those ammo price from market will crash a lot like in chinese version. because most people have battle pass so the price drop a lot
Is that a good thing for F2P players?
@@jaartisjones5713 yea yea, as f2p we can afford anything on the market. ammo, skins etc
Once u can craft the ammo as well it will help keep prices down
you can sell the ammo for millions on the auction which is the only bad thing i can see coming from this but i'm not complaining yet
if everyone started buying the pass and selling ammo the market could be flooded with purple rounds which would be REALLY funny
The best battlepass/10$ ive ever spent
I never played Delta Force so forgive my ignorance but can you obtain the battlepass for free and is the battlepass a 1 time purchase and the battlepass will give you enough currency so you can purchase future battlepass like a return investment or is it 1 time purchase?
I know Arena Breakout battlepass is 1 time purchase is it same on Delta Force? Or do you get the currency back aslong as you've progressed into the battlepass
the season was 45 days.
when I purchased the battlepass there was 43 days left i believe lol, Season 1 was released the same date Delta was released, on December 5th, it has been 18 days today December 23rd, 18+26 days makes a total of 44 days.
Imho, this might be best free to play shooter yet in terms of "P2W".
You can get a lot of stuff for literally spare change, its like what, in US 2-3 beers? From where iam, if i were to buy beer in pub or restaurant, it would be like 4-5 max. And its for whole season. Economy seems fine, they throw free stuff at you and you cant but ingame currency which is HUGE in F2P game. For what this game offers and how its polished (iam yet to encounter gamebraking bug or issue), i can overlook few bucks battlepass that gives you good ammo. You cant even get it at once unless you spend unholy ammounts of money so iam fine with that. They gotta make money somehow and if it means that i will run into one squad with that ammo and kit per 20 runs on easy where i regain some cash, i dont really care.
Battlepass is not a pay to win , u got the same stuff in Leauge of Legends ... So yea also safe like 3x3 its so nice because u can grab more nice stuff in the game , so guyz just buy it and farm it :P
Will there be a wipe? Lost crates that you have not used.
No wipes, you can personally do a wipe tho and get extra rewards but it's not forced
Yeah no wipe you can wipe your character yourself and you get cosmetics for it which tbh I think is a great way to do a no wipe extraction shooter.
What there’s no wipes each season??
the battle pass is like 11 bux for both modes. its $7 for one mode or the other. if that's pay to win you better get off the game and go git gud at life.
yeah the battlepass is a rather harmless and minimal p2w (thankfully), the cheating is a way bigger issue atm
Hello,
yea even i think battlepass is P2W with ammo and kits, but if you are not good enough, you all lose it in first game. The box is really great but for ingame time, you can get better (3x3) from missions. In the end P2W vs F2P after some hours will be at same gear, same everything so its w/e. BP is really good priced in comparison to other games where it cost double the price and its not really good value.
I mean, let developers have some money, game is free to play, meeting less and less cheaters ingame every day. Its fun as F2P (with BP only) player and game is amazing.
Have a nice day.
For the ignorant older guy who's terrible at the game, can someone please explain this free UAV and how to use it? Thank you!
The pay to win on this game is not problem, the hackers and ttk when im using gold armor are....
No it’s not P2W. It’s balanced.
You don't get the good stuff on the free battle pass. It's 100% a bit pay to win, but not massively.
I mean you can still suck with the best ammo in the game.
To me it doesn't feel like pay to win but the cheaters though
you dont compare with COD you compare the money paid with Pubg. PS. and you can guess
what they are going to do. owns by same company
Brother do u want the game to put advertisement panels in map and go full ads on the menus to pay the developers this is a business what do u expect the game is fun I'm not hurting from it i don't say when i die i only died because i don't have battlepass it's simple man just leave it
If there was wipes every 30-40 days and it was a new battle pass at the same time, then that would be more troublesome i think since u could just max the battle pass out right away and get all the purple/gold stuff and just go smash newbies with blue gear at the start of the season. Since there is no wipe, i think it's not that bad and is fine the way it is. (The price is cheap since the battle pass is split up aswell)
Also the battlepass is so cheap it’s basically accessible to anyone who has a pc.
a game being pay to win doesnt mean u have to pay to win so yeah this game is 100% pay to win. im srry to say this but if you dont think delta force is p2w then you dont understand the term p2w. it doesnt matter if people complain or not, a fact is a fact
“a game being pay to win doesn’t mean you have to pay to win” yea because that makes complete sense😂 most contradicting statement I’ve ever heard.
@davidhart6104 pay 2 win means paying for an advantage. If someone is trash at the game they would still lose with god tier gear
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bruh i dropped like 100$ and sold ammo i got from the pass ts is hella pay to win
Not gonna lie this game looks difficult BCZ I’ve never as played battlefield before