They need to revamp domains cause he is actually washed now if we keep going this way with domain characters, not to mention long events makes him only have 40% DR
@@keepyourselfsafe6554Yeah, domains should be like taunts, cuz the SB team relies on SO MANY DOMAINS, that they should let all the units on there transform at the very least.
@@mathieul4303 My issue currently, Now, you either use the Gammas Team or Brolys team and Brolys isnt even that great CURRENTLY. Its honestly stupid how Zamasu's team is now useless, and Future Gohan is BARELY IN THE TOP 10 WHEN HE WAS TOP 3 FIVE MONTHS AGO.
Tbf what makes him good is literally timeless though, only pure numbers can shift him off (Also he's been far in a way #1 for 14 months, his back must be killing him)
He’s still really good and hasn’t really aged that much it’s just there is a new power spike in dokkan and the content is a lot more difficult and newer characters are just better at handling the current content
its just the long content. Imagine if the final phase of that beast boss (the scripted one) was turn 1. Almost every character in the game would be fodder, not gohan tho, he'd eat double digits easily
For those surveys that they have I think we really need to push for making domains more fun to use because basically half of the super bosses team is gonna have domains that overlap each other (and i want a future lr hit to be runnable with a domain)
9th anniversary has been amazing, though I don't think many people are appreciating how devastating the power creep has been. So many characters have gone from great to borderline unsuable in a matter of days.
bro goat piccolo being 5 during an anniversary that has been the definition of power creep just shows that he is dokkans all time best character 2+ years of being 1
Gammas are purple color because Gamma 1 is red and Gamma 2 is blue, red and blue makes purple. Their passive further proves my point on how this unit is unique with the certain orbs they need. The unit is underpowered a bit but the details are great. Love this unit.
Just some major L takes by Truth. You don't need 4 get out of jail cards. Orange Piccolo is not optimal on the best team in the game. You do not need more than 3 get of jail free cards. Orange Piccolo is just hurting you if you are putting him on the team over Broly. That's a fact. Your team damage goes down, which makes it less likely three team safety abilities is enough, I guess. With Broly, you are not getting caught. Unless you purposely bring weak units who have low offense (like Orange Piccolo as his transformed state is at the point where the enemy defense is often just crushing his damage unless you get amazing crit rng everytime), you are ending the fight by the time you would run out of get out of jail cards. It's just a fact that DaTruth just can't grasp that at a certain point, offense becomes better than defense. There is an intrinsic value in ending a fight sooner rather than later and that has only been made more true with team protection abilities. All team protection abilities are truly doing is taking turns away from the boss. It's effectively a ghost usher. So, obviously, the value of that goes up if you are also reducing the number of turns the boss has by just killing the boss faster. This is why offensive powerhouses are important. A team with 3 free turn abilities and 4 offensive powerhouses is superior to a team with 7 free turn abilities but substantially less offense. This is because you are winning no matter what with both setups. You just are doing it 2 to 3 times faster with the former. I've always had this problem with Truth where it just overrates defense because he doesn't seem to grasp that at a certain point further defense just becomes redundant and valueless. Now, there is always a chance that in the future you will want more defense than at present, but you don't rate units based on what ifs in the future. You rate units based on what is in the game now because otherwise you can make up whatever event you want that might come out in the future to sway rankings any which way you want. It's disingenuous and inaccurate to how the game currently is. So, yeah, very hard disagree on his ranking of Orange Piccolo. I think so many people realize how stupid of a take that is and would quickly choose Broly over Orange Piccolo in a heartbeat. It's so obvious he's more valuable at this point as you have so many other units who do what he does while providing so much more to the team than him outside of it. There is a reason why the Teq Androids and Pikkon and Super Trunks aren't in any top 10's despite also having a Ghost Usher-tier ability. It's because things outside of that utility do matter. Truth is being incredibly bias and disenguous with his take on Orange Piccolo. He is vastly overrating his value outside of his transformation as well as the transformation itself because it is simply a redundant ability in the meta team of the game. Like, it's simply a fact that the best version of the Beast Gohan team does not include Orange Piccolo. He is just slowing down your offense which makes it more likely three get out of jail cards won't be enough. Which sure, he has his own too, but at that point you are just inflating how much time it takes to clear the event without changing how likely you are to clear it. The attack break also just slows down Beast Gohan's build up. Even Truth admits that the unit super attack is iffy, and it's largely due to just how strong Beast Gohan is himself. You really don't need the attack break and would rather just get hit more often than not. It's just a worse version of the team as it's just pointlessly slower for no actual gain.
Few things, if you run piccolo on super heroes he is not a detrimental unit to the team, you have so many DMG dealers it doesn't really matter, and you have missions in every event for different categories, you can't rate it only for few teams, piccolo will protect him and allies on weaker teams where characters can't tank, and every villain team you run broly looks just pretty until characters around him die
@@underworlddevil1 I think the latter is reasonable. But, the former isn't. There is no such thing as enough damage. There is only such a thing as enough defense. Having more team damage is going to pretty much always raise your likelihood of clearing a stage sooner which means giving the enemy less turns to defeat you. For defense though, there comes a point where your likelihood of getting caught becomes so low that trading offense for even more defense just doesn't actually give any sort of likely benefit. Just because getting the initial defense needed is typically more important does not mean defense is absolutely always better to go for over offense with every choice in every situation which is what Truth has consistently errored on at various points in time. Being able to identify when you have enough defense already is an aspect of team building that matters and should play a factor when assessing units.
It doesn't even essentially matter. Your essentially saying that "speedblitzing the event" is more effective. Orange piccolo active is better then the beast active and the gogeta active. It legit allows you to move units that are locked. That's like using a ghost usher AND that little tree sampling item AT THE SAME TIME WHILE doing decent damage to bosses. I find that far more effective then broly "clearing events faster".
Idk why you worry so much about Piccolo when Beast gohan is literally THERE to handicap him 😂 You think Broly would be any different when his built in domain transformation just isn’t meant to support super class allies Sure he’s doing stupid dmg while effectively tanking but at what cost exactly? lol
I’d put broly over OP and potentially Gogeta. Until he gets more teammates and domains are updated, I would not put him higher than that. What do you think?
@@tusharjaswal7910I mean, anything being close to Beast was unimaginable a few weeks ago. Now, SSBE Vegeta can sometimes perform better than Beast with how tanky he is + revival.
@@tusharjaswal7910 Beast intro and active is definitely better, though he can get caught if he doesn't get hit 8 times outside of that (which surprisingly happens a bit). So can Vegeta but getting hit 5 times for revival and even more godlike tanking makes it go either way
Look at how fast Broly/Chelai/Lenmo fell out after Truth said they were the #1 like a few weeks ago. Let's be honest every new little thing that comes out I'm guaranteeing Truth will have a video saying 'the BEST UR/LR in the game!" @@CaptKami18
I would have 1. BEAST 2.EVO VEGETA 3. UI GOKU 4.BROLY 5.GOGETA 6.PICCOLO 7.GAMMA 1 AND 2 8.SSBK GOKU AND EVO VEGETA 9.BULMA 10.FUTURE GOHAN I can see a few units moved around. I also think i have MERGED ZAMASU 11
@RubenPerez-ho4tt reason why I have broly so high is because of Global First Rose and future units, coming out or getting an eza on his leader skills. Watch when phy LR Buutenks gets eza its gonna be nuts
I don’t agree with Orange Piccolo’s active being “by far the best active in the game” considering Beast’s is the same thing except it also removes the normals. Removing normals matters a lot now, since they hit for like 800k lmao Edit: forgot to mention that orange piccolo’s active apparently doesn’t work on scripted supers, which includes stuff like Beast Gohan’s super attacks in supreme battle spectacle.
And not to mention, OP’s damage is extremely outdated. Compared to the new units active skill nukes. His damage is not enough to compensate. He is just basically today’s version of the teq androids. His only value is the giant transformation.
You’re overrating the Broly domain’s effect on allies. 10% of double digits is still double digits. The domain in general is only improving YOUR damage on enemies. It’s more utility than the UI revive that you’ll never see on Beast’s team.
But Ur still nerfing Ur team and the domain itself doesn't help any other unit BC they either not good enough (pretty much every extreme unit) or they are super class what it directly nerfs
I'm now 1500 stones and the 77 multi with only pulling the 7th anni gt duo for lrs. This anni just doesn't want me to have anything. 1300 for one broly and now this for beast. Still don't have blue boys at all and one copy of gt 8th.
This was pretty much my experience during the 8th anniversary on Global. I only pulled 1 GT Duo in 2,000 stones, while pulling 9 LR Super Buus who I already had at rainbow prior to the anniversary back to back.
That sucks, man. I dropped upwards of 10k stones total for a whopping 3 units out of the 12 (would eventually pull some others in later banners), so ik the pain. Sorry for your luck :(
I understand why Broly is so low on this list, but his reasoning is kind of iffy. He says that he debuffs his entire team, which is true, but then he says that he’ll do “6 30 million attack stats” then the character in slot 2 will get one shot. Tell me which boss is surviving 6 30 million attack stats from Broly who guaranteed crits….
I wonder why Datruth thinks transformed Broly is the strongest tank in the game (?) Beast even deeper into fights and gamma 1 is objectively better defensively than Broly and its not even close
Finally my boy Gogeta get the respect he deserves, even though Broly had higher peaks but the utility Gogeta provide is just unmatched. And this might be a hot take but in a longer event + non-cancelling dodge event, Active skill turn Gogeta is the best single turn in the game.
I like how truth is saying all of the super class teams that Broly can be in are helpers while Broly himself destroys the team with his domain. I mean I've had times where my super class team die in supreme battle spectacle because of the domain but that's not to say that broly isn't good because he destroys the team.
The 10% debuff broly does to super class allies doesn't matter that much. For example if a super class character takes 300k without the domain with the domain he would take 330k,
The Super Bosses team are just a couple units away from being great. A couple EZAs (LR Jiren), Rainbow Orb Changer (for GF and Rose), and a Beast Gohan Level Super Boss (New Jiren maybe). I just hope they pump the category like what they did to Power of Wishes after 8th Anni - then we can see Zamasu back.
@@Zer0Hour17there has been a couple times where villain teams have been extremly good and competing with super teams tho. Like 2021 and 2022 wwc celebration
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And they changing how domains works. Many good villains need their domains.
Uh oh, lets see if Truth slanders the shit out of Broly or not Edit: yuuuup, complete bullshit. Broly doesnt just do damage, he protects the entire team with his damage. He can Kill every single phase in the game by himself. Do you want to get supered for 3.7 mil damage 3 times or 0 times????? Hmmmm whats more defensive, using Beast Gohans active to protect the turn. Or using Broly and protecting the enitre team because you kill the boss instantly. THE SLOT 2/3 CHARACTER CAN NOT BE 1 SHOT WHEN THE BOSS IS FUCKING DEAD!!!!!!
To be fair, Truth did at least state that transformed Broly was number 1. His damage alone though doesn’t protect the entire team all the time. Bosses that stun and seal can take the wind out of Broly’s sails assuming he’s in slot one.
@@luxury_12.6 yeah 1 relevant fight has an aoe, whereas picollo cannot tank normals in over 5, it's really not the same thing. Piccollo's is just worse in the current state of the game, if his base kit was actually top 5 level then sure, but its not
@@beckyg5952 more than one hard fight has aoe but you're free to like whatever active you like Gohan's active doesn't work well against enemies that stun or seal with their super attacks because they prevent him from attacking, only piccolo and gogeta's active works well in that situation.
I think I mostly agree with this list, one of the few points I would have for Broly though would be he's ending the fight when he transforms from the amount of damage he does. It pretty much doesn't matter that he's debuffing your super class allies if the boss dies first.
17:05 I think 6 is a fair assessment of Broly, like you were saying he himself as a unit is super insane once he transforms, but his only value to the team is what he himself is capable of doing, whereas some of the other units that came out this anniversary are capable of similar ATK/DEF numbers while also being true leaders to the team. Kind of like how being a true team leader is more valuable than just being an all-star in sports
1:22 funnily enough there was no EZAs the 5th anniversary. We take them for granted now, but the 6th anniversary was the first time they did EZAs on big celebrations (INT UI), and it was a big deal because of that.
I have to honestly ask, and yeah I know a debuff is still a negative, but is a -10% knock to your super class allies really that huge of a deal? I feel like your stats get so high that losing 10% isn’t gonna be a run-ender
Okay, so I need to pull in order, Beast, Gogeta and then Broly to be ready for the most difficult content. Double Beast, Gogeta, Ssbe Vegeta, Agl Mui Goku, Evo and ssbkk, Broly. This will be my team.
This list seems pretty accurate, the only changes I would do is basically put Broly higher than Gogeta. I am sorry for orange piccolo but he ends up getting me killed more times than I like.
@JustinMedina-ro8du for the top tier characters, then yes. But these newer events hit hard, and he not only can't blanket the team, he also debuffs the team's defense for a lot of characters. Yeah he hits hard, and you don't have to worry about HIS defense once he's transformed. I think #6 is a good spot for him
@Gene2B see you're right but his domain 'hurting' the team isn't even a factor why ? Cause of my set up. currently run double beast rainbow, broly rainbow , new gogeta 79%, 6th year ezas rainbow , Evolution blue& kaioken rainbow and on that team I put broly 5 . Cause he carry the damage (every one the team does damage but broly us the finisher for the team with his domain) u don't need worry about his defense when I have 3 target mechanics and 2 revives . I have no item every event multiple times with record speeds and broly is on of the main reason. But that's because beast is far and away the best unit in the game . In situations where gogeta and broly could sell cause they haven't transformed, beast is there or ui or Evo. And they let broly pop off and be the beast he is. Also he is a great linking partner for beast and the team
@Gene2B but yes I'm fine with his 6 spot I would just put gogeta behind just based off my runs and luck. None have died but one has certainly done more for the runs than the other .
The thing with OP, is that with me i don't have dupes, so he doesn't do dmg in giant form. It doesnt take you to the next turn or anything. It just basically pauses the same turn, it doesn't always help.
Not sure if I'm the only one with this problem, but could you consider turning up the volume in your vids? I've always found them to be pretty low compared to other youtube vids at the same volume meaning I have to turn my volume up just for your vids, and then back down after. Would be great, thanks
I fully agree with the list except for Broly above Gammas. Both have flaws but one just has the most busted team in the game and is on the 200% where as Broly only has 170% on Gohan’s team and hurts the team with his transformation. Also I’ve witnessed Broly take damage from the TEQ ssj Gogeta phase transformed with the domain. Of course it was the first attack so he didn’t have his defense buff up, but bosses don’t wait for your units to be at max power before doing stuff to them.
You can say the same about everyone else above broly, so I don't think that's a fair argument. Broly himself is fine, definitely better than the gammas. The only thing the gammas have over is support
after all the insane meta changes and power creep this is probably the most drastic change in a tier list (compared to last month) I've seen since 7th anniversary
In WWC when Vegeta can’t take this D down from Namek FF Frieza or whatever, that dodge build PTSD will kick in. Getting bad luck with dodges doesn’t mean it isn’t optimal with SSBE. Realistically, Vegeta can hang slot 1 and 2 early in the fight, Turn 3 or 4 or 5 (at worst) that Revive should be up with decent luck.
I was shocked seeing Broly below even tho he tanks better and does more damage than gogeta but now you say it he i agree gogeta have a better value with his healing and target skill. Great tier list💯
Glad you finally started to actually separate the top 10 characters into true tiers in the grouped tier list. Granted the current state of the characters in the game probably lends itself to doing it now more than ever.
The thing with this anni is, it feels like TUR's are just useless now. What's even the point of running them when you have 100 great LR's. they gotta do something with TUR's
Piccolo resurgence will once again come in the future, when a new unit is introduced that prevents the entire rotation from going below 1 HP for 1 turn and recover 50% hp at start of next turn (after character passive trigger)😮
I mean, i literally took a blue zone beast gohan’s super for double digits with type disadvantage on the first slot with LR gamma 1. What a gigachad, funny how not even the ‘No.2’ unit ssbe took 726k from a super type disadvantage, yet gamma 1 tanks it like a chad he is.
Also gamma was 55% with lvl 1 links, something that shocked me. I even checked if i had items, yet I didn’t so it made me chuckle on how insane he was. My vegeta is rainbow with the anniversary equips. Trust me that i was shock to see vegeta the no.2 unit take that much when gamma and broly took less in slot 1.
idc what yall say, I loveeeeeeeeee using Rose!!!!! he isnt perfect as a unit, but hes fun for me. I dont give a SHIT about only summoing for "best units" when they get replaced by the time everything gets to global anyways..... and Kelfa might is like a top 3 TUR 😭😭 Dokkan love those U6 female sayians!!
I can’t tell you how nice it is to FINALLY have a sole vegeta unit ACTUALLY being good. when was the last time a vegeta (by himself) unit was in any sort of top 10?
I feel like we might be OVER rating these team saving abilities. Theyre AWESOME but it only saves you for a turn... you can still get ass blasted on the very next turn...
I think if they fix how domains work in the future PHY Rose could really help Broly’s team by manually overwriting his super class debuff, especially since Rose can still be run with 2 non Super Bosses 🤔
Honestly they need to buff Super Bosses more with great Extreme Class characters so you dont have to run super class characters on his team. I honestly do hope the anniversary leaves an effect where most of the characters we get after end up being really good.
This is a wild list to see because I think going into this anniversary, you were making an uphill argument to say Future Gohan wasn't the #1 unit in the game.
Hahaha! No, i refuse to believe a unit that takes 1.2million fully build up on slot 1 from blue zone gogeta can match one that takes double digits. I mean, 4 times i have died because of vegeta, since people like to brag about his 80% damage reduction. They forget that he starts the turn at 50% with no damn guard. Beast not only is better defensively, but also helps the team, has an better team and leader skill, supports the team with ki after being hit, he is safe at any slot unlike vegeta and on top of all he has permanent guard. In what universe can vegeta match that?
I’m almost like pissed a little. The power creep in this game after the 9th anniversary isn’t a creep. It’s literally a sprint to where units with 1M and guard can’t tank. Think about that for a second. A unit with a million can’t tank and have guard. A good unit nowadays will have to have 50 dmg reduction, and guard to be good. Dokkan just fodderized my entire box on global rn. That has never happened in dokkan history😔
This isn't the first time an adult Gohan shows up to DOMINATE the current game in a major celebration where he is the best LR out of the 4 Main LR's, in which the celebration also just so happens to include a Part 1 with a badass Blue-haired fusion, an unexpectedly strong green giant enemy, and appears in a Part 2, where the anticipated, and needed villain counterpart never arrives to contrast the Part 2 Hero unit, but is instead replaced by another dope Hero unit!
The 9th anniversary has truly been amazing. Your 2 and 3 slot being EZAs highlights a great strategy I hope continues going forward. With cards like Beast Gohan out, the floor to ceiling ratio of usable and non-usable cards is so lop sided its now ridiculously unbearable. How do you entice new players to play when they're trying to draw the newest cards and 90% or more, I'd bet, of the cards they're getting are literally unusable cards that do nothing but take up resources and space? Let alone the free to play cards are built to maybe help out in super battle road and a few other entrance level difficult events? It's getting really bad. In a traditional card game we'd see these older cards rotated out for newer ones, but in this game they just clog up the channels to get the new stuff. Most of these older cards have already been EZA'd as well. It's tough. They can no longer afford to give out bad EZAs.
Considering they must EZA piccolo and ultimate gohan at the same time, I' m not sure if we are going to wait until like 12th anni for their EZA making gohan suffer in the hell of units that cannot tank normals, or we are going to see piccolo being on the top 5 for longer than him being off of it by the time he gets his EZA.
“It’s ok Orange Piccolo, you can rest now”
Bro must have scoliosis by how long he stayed at #1. He will hold the title of one of the Lrs who have stayed number 1 for a while.
Stand proud, for you are strong.
he still number1 in global for 5 months
@@thanat69 technically had the king and the princess holding the crown for dokkan at the same time
truly an all time for the game
Rest well my beloved Fusion Zamasu
just wait till the EZA for it lol
They need to revamp domains cause he is actually washed now if we keep going this way with domain characters, not to mention long events makes him only have 40% DR
@@keepyourselfsafe6554Yeah, domains should be like taunts, cuz the SB team relies on SO MANY DOMAINS, that they should let all the units on there transform at the very least.
I still enjoy fusion zamasu
He’s still at the very least top 11 and I’d definitely argue him above Bulma who has no presence in the current best teams.
It's crazy that almost the entire top 10 is from this celebration only. Amazing anniversary.
Imo that's bad, the power creep is hitting very hard
@@bananaballs3205 so what, itll always be a thing
@@bananaballs3205that’s how gacha games are
@@bananaballs3205you are right since it forces you to have the newer units or you’re stuck
@@mathieul4303 My issue currently, Now, you either use the Gammas Team or Brolys team and Brolys isnt even that great CURRENTLY. Its honestly stupid how Zamasu's team is now useless, and Future Gohan is BARELY IN THE TOP 10 WHEN HE WAS TOP 3 FIVE MONTHS AGO.
Seeing Orange Piccolo at 5 hurts
It’s only a matter of time until the GOAT is off the board 😔✊
:P
Tbf what makes him good is literally timeless though, only pure numbers can shift him off (Also he's been far in a way #1 for 14 months, his back must be killing him)
He is still the goat,bro took 2 aniverssarys to finally be out of the top 3
He's been Top 1-3 longer than any other unit has. I'm fine with him being bested by part 2 of 9th anniversary which honestly seems it took too long.
@@Xinime Bro survived 2 aniverssaries,Its finally time
Crazy how future gohan is being aged, faster than I thought tbh
Is he? He's aging but not by an insane amount
he's not bad, other characters are just better, doesn't mean he's fallen off
He’s still really good and hasn’t really aged that much it’s just there is a new power spike in dokkan and the content is a lot more difficult and newer characters are just better at handling the current content
its just the long content. Imagine if the final phase of that beast boss (the scripted one) was turn 1. Almost every character in the game would be fodder, not gohan tho, he'd eat double digits easily
He's only aging because the events are longer. He is still top 5 for events that are 1-7 turns
Stand Proud GT Duo, you are strong.
Rest well, my beloved 😞
Still extremely strong. That spirit bomb revival will kill almost anything
Orange Piccolo experiencing what Lighting McQueen experienced in Cars 3.
Damn what a callback
Beast is like Jackson Storm 😂
For those surveys that they have I think we really need to push for making domains more fun to use because basically half of the super bosses team is gonna have domains that overlap each other (and i want a future lr hit to be runnable with a domain)
9th anniversary has been amazing, though I don't think many people are appreciating how devastating the power creep has been. So many characters have gone from great to borderline unsuable in a matter of days.
I play global and the foresight has been an incredible help.
Will be the last time we can take advantage of this though 😂
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@@G34R146i can’t save for 5 months tho..
Sad to see gt duo out of the top ten 😔
We will never forget the goats 🎻😭
they are probably 8
are they still worth running double lead bc ui goku and bulma are on their team?
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@@mauricejohnson2351 bulma and future gohan are not better than gt duo, bulma is dead already and future gohan isnt tanky enough later in the fight
bro goat piccolo being 5 during an anniversary that has been the definition of power creep just shows that he is dokkans all time best character 2+ years of being 1
Eza piccolo turn 1 giant form
Crazy to see Gohan at 10😭
He was 1 like 2 months ago?!
Nice to see gogeta get the number 4 spot which he deserves for sure. I have seen a lot of people down playing hum and his target skill
Great thumbnail, no spoilers at all 😊
he already knows most people are gonna skip to the end anyway lol
@@brassbeast8582 u damn right
As if it wasn’t obvious lol
Pretty sure he tweats the list out before he even makes the video
The video is about his explanations
OP isn’t what he used to be tbh
beast > 6th year eza > broly > gogeta > OP
i’d argue OP is the weakest link on his team even with broly on a 170
It sucks that domains are just transformations with a little extra steps and not letting you trasform with other characters with domains
Gogeta is the most fun unit of the anniversary. Beast is beyond broken (bit too broken even), but the GOAT Gogeta is just super fkn fun to use
You should start doing top 20 characters there’s so many LRs now so it would make sense
Future gohan being up there is so funny considering you really would only use him on future now
Gammas are purple color because Gamma 1 is red and Gamma 2 is blue, red and blue makes purple. Their passive further proves my point on how this unit is unique with the certain orbs they need. The unit is underpowered a bit but the details are great. Love this unit.
I love their design its so creative
@@thevipez8740Facts bro, it is awesome
Bro the fact piccolo is so high is insane what a absolute legend
Just some major L takes by Truth. You don't need 4 get out of jail cards. Orange Piccolo is not optimal on the best team in the game. You do not need more than 3 get of jail free cards. Orange Piccolo is just hurting you if you are putting him on the team over Broly. That's a fact. Your team damage goes down, which makes it less likely three team safety abilities is enough, I guess. With Broly, you are not getting caught. Unless you purposely bring weak units who have low offense (like Orange Piccolo as his transformed state is at the point where the enemy defense is often just crushing his damage unless you get amazing crit rng everytime), you are ending the fight by the time you would run out of get out of jail cards. It's just a fact that DaTruth just can't grasp that at a certain point, offense becomes better than defense.
There is an intrinsic value in ending a fight sooner rather than later and that has only been made more true with team protection abilities. All team protection abilities are truly doing is taking turns away from the boss. It's effectively a ghost usher. So, obviously, the value of that goes up if you are also reducing the number of turns the boss has by just killing the boss faster. This is why offensive powerhouses are important. A team with 3 free turn abilities and 4 offensive powerhouses is superior to a team with 7 free turn abilities but substantially less offense. This is because you are winning no matter what with both setups. You just are doing it 2 to 3 times faster with the former. I've always had this problem with Truth where it just overrates defense because he doesn't seem to grasp that at a certain point further defense just becomes redundant and valueless.
Now, there is always a chance that in the future you will want more defense than at present, but you don't rate units based on what ifs in the future. You rate units based on what is in the game now because otherwise you can make up whatever event you want that might come out in the future to sway rankings any which way you want. It's disingenuous and inaccurate to how the game currently is. So, yeah, very hard disagree on his ranking of Orange Piccolo. I think so many people realize how stupid of a take that is and would quickly choose Broly over Orange Piccolo in a heartbeat. It's so obvious he's more valuable at this point as you have so many other units who do what he does while providing so much more to the team than him outside of it.
There is a reason why the Teq Androids and Pikkon and Super Trunks aren't in any top 10's despite also having a Ghost Usher-tier ability. It's because things outside of that utility do matter. Truth is being incredibly bias and disenguous with his take on Orange Piccolo. He is vastly overrating his value outside of his transformation as well as the transformation itself because it is simply a redundant ability in the meta team of the game. Like, it's simply a fact that the best version of the Beast Gohan team does not include Orange Piccolo. He is just slowing down your offense which makes it more likely three get out of jail cards won't be enough. Which sure, he has his own too, but at that point you are just inflating how much time it takes to clear the event without changing how likely you are to clear it. The attack break also just slows down Beast Gohan's build up. Even Truth admits that the unit super attack is iffy, and it's largely due to just how strong Beast Gohan is himself. You really don't need the attack break and would rather just get hit more often than not. It's just a worse version of the team as it's just pointlessly slower for no actual gain.
Few things, if you run piccolo on super heroes he is not a detrimental unit to the team, you have so many DMG dealers it doesn't really matter, and you have missions in every event for different categories, you can't rate it only for few teams, piccolo will protect him and allies on weaker teams where characters can't tank, and every villain team you run broly looks just pretty until characters around him die
Very well said
@@underworlddevil1 I think the latter is reasonable. But, the former isn't. There is no such thing as enough damage. There is only such a thing as enough defense. Having more team damage is going to pretty much always raise your likelihood of clearing a stage sooner which means giving the enemy less turns to defeat you. For defense though, there comes a point where your likelihood of getting caught becomes so low that trading offense for even more defense just doesn't actually give any sort of likely benefit. Just because getting the initial defense needed is typically more important does not mean defense is absolutely always better to go for over offense with every choice in every situation which is what Truth has consistently errored on at various points in time. Being able to identify when you have enough defense already is an aspect of team building that matters and should play a factor when assessing units.
It doesn't even essentially matter. Your essentially saying that "speedblitzing the event" is more effective.
Orange piccolo active is better then the beast active and the gogeta active. It legit allows you to move units that are locked. That's like using a ghost usher AND that little tree sampling item AT THE SAME TIME WHILE doing decent damage to bosses. I find that far more effective then broly "clearing events faster".
Idk why you worry so much about Piccolo when Beast gohan is literally THERE to handicap him 😂
You think Broly would be any different when his built in domain transformation just isn’t meant to support super class allies
Sure he’s doing stupid dmg while effectively tanking but at what cost exactly? lol
I don’t always agree 100% with your tierlists but im glad u make them. They are fun to watch!
Did you agree with this one?
I’d put broly over OP and potentially Gogeta. Until he gets more teammates and domains are updated, I would not put him higher than that. What do you think?
Crazy to think one day beast will be worse than banner units, can only imagine what units do in a year or two from now.
Bro maybee in 3 years banner unit being better then beast I can't see it
@@tusharjaswal7910I mean, anything being close to Beast was unimaginable a few weeks ago. Now, SSBE Vegeta can sometimes perform better than Beast with how tanky he is + revival.
If the game still alive by then. This power creep is quite worrying
@@ChrrolloDI beast with intro is greater then vegita vegita after revival is may be close to beast for I turn
@@tusharjaswal7910 Beast intro and active is definitely better, though he can get caught if he doesn't get hit 8 times outside of that (which surprisingly happens a bit). So can Vegeta but getting hit 5 times for revival and even more godlike tanking makes it go either way
I feel like it would be better if you didn't spoil the list in the thumbnail
come on let's be fair beast gohan is the new shiny LR so of course he was going to be 1.
I mean if you watch his videos consistently, you already know what his rankings are going to be. The real ones are just here to listen to him yap.
Look at how fast Broly/Chelai/Lenmo fell out after Truth said they were the #1 like a few weeks ago. Let's be honest every new little thing that comes out I'm guaranteeing Truth will have a video saying 'the BEST UR/LR in the game!" @@CaptKami18
@@gfhiphone7216couldn’t have said it any better 🔥
@@gfhiphone7216ong🔥
I would have
1. BEAST
2.EVO VEGETA
3. UI GOKU
4.BROLY
5.GOGETA
6.PICCOLO
7.GAMMA 1 AND 2
8.SSBK GOKU AND EVO VEGETA
9.BULMA
10.FUTURE GOHAN
I can see a few units moved around. I also think i have MERGED ZAMASU 11
I would have Piccolo over Broly but i feel like that tier of Gogeta Piccolo and Broly is interchangeable honestly its just prefenrence
Zamasu>future Gohan and bulma
@RubenPerez-ho4tt reason why I have broly so high is because of Global First Rose and future units, coming out or getting an eza on his leader skills. Watch when phy LR Buutenks gets eza its gonna be nuts
@@ZayDeyknow Rose doesn't make broly all that better so yea that's not much of a argument
I don’t agree with Orange Piccolo’s active being “by far the best active in the game” considering Beast’s is the same thing except it also removes the normals.
Removing normals matters a lot now, since they hit for like 800k lmao
Edit: forgot to mention that orange piccolo’s active apparently doesn’t work on scripted supers, which includes stuff like Beast Gohan’s super attacks in supreme battle spectacle.
And not to mention, OP’s damage is extremely outdated. Compared to the new units active skill nukes. His damage is not enough to compensate. He is just basically today’s version of the teq androids. His only value is the giant transformation.
Tierlist honestly should've just been
#1 - 100% Beast
#2 - 90% Beast
#3 - 79& Beast
#4 - 69% Beast
#5 - 55% Beast
#6 - 0% Beast
#7 - SA1 Beast
#8 - Lvl 1 Beast
#9 - SSBE Vegeta
#10 - AGL UI
LOL
I would put #9 tur beast lol
@@profess2772 Lmao, yeah ik but it would be funny to have the list have almost all beast in it.
Broly at 100% is better than beast at 55%. Evo at 100% is also better
Why do I actually agree with this tho
You’re overrating the Broly domain’s effect on allies. 10% of double digits is still double digits. The domain in general is only improving YOUR damage on enemies. It’s more utility than the UI revive that you’ll never see on Beast’s team.
But Ur still nerfing Ur team and the domain itself doesn't help any other unit BC they either not good enough (pretty much every extreme unit) or they are super class what it directly nerfs
@@stev070 The domain increases everyone’s damage by 10%
At the very least domains should be able to extend eachother if it's the same domain, so you can transform both Broly or CMZ LRs.
Alright guys, we are back for another dokkan battle video
When he used to say "Alright bitchs"
So here we go, LR tier list update.
Uh the 9th anniversary has been very good
Um now I do think there is *lip smack*
Um, now I do think there is, there’s a lot of fights that have buffed older characters
I'm now 1500 stones and the 77 multi with only pulling the 7th anni gt duo for lrs. This anni just doesn't want me to have anything. 1300 for one broly and now this for beast. Still don't have blue boys at all and one copy of gt 8th.
This was pretty much my experience during the 8th anniversary on Global. I only pulled 1 GT Duo in 2,000 stones, while pulling 9 LR Super Buus who I already had at rainbow prior to the anniversary back to back.
Pretty much what occurred for me at 8th anni. Think i spent about 1200 stones on the initial banners and still don't have a copy of GT duo or BuuBros
That sucks, man. I dropped upwards of 10k stones total for a whopping 3 units out of the 12 (would eventually pull some others in later banners), so ik the pain. Sorry for your luck :(
I understand why Broly is so low on this list, but his reasoning is kind of iffy. He says that he debuffs his entire team, which is true, but then he says that he’ll do “6 30 million attack stats” then the character in slot 2 will get one shot. Tell me which boss is surviving 6 30 million attack stats from Broly who guaranteed crits….
I wonder why Datruth thinks transformed Broly is the strongest tank in the game (?) Beast even deeper into fights and gamma 1 is objectively better defensively than Broly and its not even close
UI sign has 84 percent chance to dodge with full dodge potential system almost 90 percent. He definitely should be in top 10 you could argue top 5
You should definitely make it a top 20 now.
Finally my boy Gogeta get the respect he deserves, even though Broly had higher peaks but the utility Gogeta provide is just unmatched. And this might be a hot take but in a longer event + non-cancelling dodge event, Active skill turn Gogeta is the best single turn in the game.
I like how truth is saying all of the super class teams that Broly can be in are helpers while Broly himself destroys the team with his domain. I mean I've had times where my super class team die in supreme battle spectacle because of the domain but that's not to say that broly isn't good because he destroys the team.
Extreme teams are in the fucking mud Rn man that Gohan extreme mission might be the hardest thing in the game
The reason DaTruth doesn't get Piccolos heal often is because he has everything rainbowed lol. I get Piccolos heal pretty frequently 😂
But then again do you also die frequently?
The 10% debuff broly does to super class allies doesn't matter that much. For example if a super class character takes 300k without the domain with the domain he would take 330k,
Some would argue that matters a lot
The Super Bosses team are just a couple units away from being great. A couple EZAs (LR Jiren), Rainbow Orb Changer (for GF and Rose), and a Beast Gohan Level Super Boss (New Jiren maybe).
I just hope they pump the category like what they did to Power of Wishes after 8th Anni - then we can see Zamasu back.
Just give up on villains. It hurts less when you stop hoping. Just think of Broly as a Saiyan that you put on Saiyan teams.
@@Zer0Hour17there has been a couple times where villain teams have been extremly good and competing with super teams tho. Like 2021 and 2022 wwc celebration
And they changing how domains works. Many good villains need their domains.
@@Soulking378not that much
@@Soulking378and both times the team was pretty much abandoned after their respective celebrations
Uh oh, lets see if Truth slanders the shit out of Broly or not
Edit: yuuuup, complete bullshit. Broly doesnt just do damage, he protects the entire team with his damage. He can Kill every single phase in the game by himself. Do you want to get supered for 3.7 mil damage 3 times or 0 times????? Hmmmm whats more defensive, using Beast Gohans active to protect the turn. Or using Broly and protecting the enitre team because you kill the boss instantly. THE SLOT 2/3 CHARACTER CAN NOT BE 1 SHOT WHEN THE BOSS IS FUCKING DEAD!!!!!!
To be fair, Truth did at least state that transformed Broly was number 1. His damage alone though doesn’t protect the entire team all the time. Bosses that stun and seal can take the wind out of Broly’s sails assuming he’s in slot one.
18:48. You just explained exactly why piccolo's active isnt the best, because he cant tank normals. Beast and gogeta completely stop them
Piccolo's active protects the rotation against aoe. Gohan and Gogeta don't.
@@luxury_12.6 yeah 1 relevant fight has an aoe, whereas picollo cannot tank normals in over 5, it's really not the same thing. Piccollo's is just worse in the current state of the game, if his base kit was actually top 5 level then sure, but its not
@@beckyg5952 more than one hard fight has aoe but you're free to like whatever active you like
Gohan's active doesn't work well against enemies that stun or seal with their super attacks because they prevent him from attacking, only piccolo and gogeta's active works well in that situation.
Oh lord truth, I've com to you with a simple request, I humbly ask if you could do a top 20 units on dokkan
I think I mostly agree with this list, one of the few points I would have for Broly though would be he's ending the fight when he transforms from the amount of damage he does. It pretty much doesn't matter that he's debuffing your super class allies if the boss dies first.
5:43 I did not need to think about this
I feel like gohan got outclasses so fast and that maybe ui sign would be a better option than him
17:05 I think 6 is a fair assessment of Broly, like you were saying he himself as a unit is super insane once he transforms, but his only value to the team is what he himself is capable of doing, whereas some of the other units that came out this anniversary are capable of similar ATK/DEF numbers while also being true leaders to the team. Kind of like how being a true team leader is more valuable than just being an all-star in sports
1:22 funnily enough there was no EZAs the 5th anniversary.
We take them for granted now, but the 6th anniversary was the first time they did EZAs on big celebrations (INT UI), and it was a big deal because of that.
I have to honestly ask, and yeah I know a debuff is still a negative, but is a -10% knock to your super class allies really that huge of a deal? I feel like your stats get so high that losing 10% isn’t gonna be a run-ender
It's only a huge deal if the unit can't take double digits from normals
Sad to see the gt duo off the list. It’s crazy just how stacked the new units are
The only thing I would change is to swap MUI with Gogeta. It's just preference in playstyle^^
Okay, so I need to pull in order, Beast, Gogeta and then Broly to be ready for the most difficult content.
Double Beast, Gogeta, Ssbe Vegeta, Agl Mui Goku, Evo and ssbkk, Broly. This will be my team.
crazt how STR UI left the top 10 after a month lol
This list seems pretty accurate, the only changes I would do is basically put Broly higher than Gogeta. I am sorry for orange piccolo but he ends up getting me killed more times than I like.
Keep in mind, I use his orange form on that last stage of the boss to disable super attacks and AOE
People are gonna be mad about the Broly placement, but its true. He's fantastic, but nerfs his good teammates. Its rough
10% damage taken is nothing.
@JustinMedina-ro8du for the top tier characters, then yes. But these newer events hit hard, and he not only can't blanket the team, he also debuffs the team's defense for a lot of characters. Yeah he hits hard, and you don't have to worry about HIS defense once he's transformed. I think #6 is a good spot for him
@Gene2B see you're right but his domain 'hurting' the team isn't even a factor why ? Cause of my set up. currently run double beast rainbow, broly rainbow , new gogeta 79%, 6th year ezas rainbow , Evolution blue& kaioken rainbow and on that team I put broly 5 . Cause he carry the damage (every one the team does damage but broly us the finisher for the team with his domain) u don't need worry about his defense when I have 3 target mechanics and 2 revives . I have no item every event multiple times with record speeds and broly is on of the main reason. But that's because beast is far and away the best unit in the game . In situations where gogeta and broly could sell cause they haven't transformed, beast is there or ui or Evo. And they let broly pop off and be the beast he is. Also he is a great linking partner for beast and the team
@Gene2B but yes I'm fine with his 6 spot I would just put gogeta behind just based off my runs and luck. None have died but one has certainly done more for the runs than the other .
I already know hes gonna get some shit for putting broly at 6
Broshit
Good thing he isn’t wrong
Broly fans fuming😂😂
Broly fans fuming lmao
He is wrong broly should be 5 at least
The thing with OP, is that with me i don't have dupes, so he doesn't do dmg in giant form. It doesnt take you to the next turn or anything. It just basically pauses the same turn, it doesn't always help.
It does pause the same turn, but the enemy not being able to super you is a massive help
Not sure if I'm the only one with this problem, but could you consider turning up the volume in your vids? I've always found them to be pretty low compared to other youtube vids at the same volume meaning I have to turn my volume up just for your vids, and then back down after. Would be great, thanks
Crazy how ui sign already fell out of the top 10 and bulma and gohan are at the bottom. Meta shift is crazy this year
Orange piccolo doesn’t do enough damage to get you out of a phase so when u transform back ur gunna get smacked up anyways
no you're not because he removes the bosses super attacks
This is prolly one of truths best tier list videos
I fully agree with the list except for Broly above Gammas. Both have flaws but one just has the most busted team in the game and is on the 200% where as Broly only has 170% on Gohan’s team and hurts the team with his transformation. Also I’ve witnessed Broly take damage from the TEQ ssj Gogeta phase transformed with the domain. Of course it was the first attack so he didn’t have his defense buff up, but bosses don’t wait for your units to be at max power before doing stuff to them.
I think op too why is over broly and gamma he dies from basic of future trunks and his gigant form is the only good thing he have Over others
You can say the same about everyone else above broly, so I don't think that's a fair argument. Broly himself is fine, definitely better than the gammas. The only thing the gammas have over is support
@@monix4954And a miles better leader skill, Super heroes is the best team in the game, the Gammas are automatically better because of that.
@@JayZ69000 not really, when Gohan is the better leader. There's no reason to run 2 gammas with a lead, when you can run 2 Gohan
@@monix4954 There is, And its called Int Evo Vegeta and Phy EvoKen dude, wth u on about.
I wonder who number 1 will be? My guess is LR Super Buu, his power is unrivaled
I don't agree with broly's placement, but I respect your reasoning.
after all the insane meta changes and power creep this is probably the most drastic change in a tier list (compared to last month) I've seen since 7th anniversary
Finally piccolo can take a break. Bless up, Omatsu
Crazy how we live in a time where bulma isn't even top 5 anymore
In WWC when Vegeta can’t take this D down from Namek FF Frieza or whatever, that dodge build PTSD will kick in. Getting bad luck with dodges doesn’t mean it isn’t optimal with SSBE. Realistically, Vegeta can hang slot 1 and 2 early in the fight, Turn 3 or 4 or 5 (at worst) that Revive should be up with decent luck.
I was shocked seeing Broly below even tho he tanks better and does more damage than gogeta but now you say it he i agree gogeta have a better value with his healing and target skill. Great tier list💯
the fact that a new anniverary carnival unit is #7 while still being absolutely broken is wild to me.
What made my day about this video is the fent ad and tampon ads on the right and left lol
Glad you finally started to actually separate the top 10 characters into true tiers in the grouped tier list.
Granted the current state of the characters in the game probably lends itself to doing it now more than ever.
Truth watch out for the sidebar ads it’s says fent idk if you’ll get demonetized for that
iirc the ads alone are a problem
The thing with this anni is, it feels like TUR's are just useless now. What's even the point of running them when you have 100 great LR's. they gotta do something with TUR's
Not to worry. Remember Goku Goku, WT goku and Majunior last year? We are going to get some top level TURs this year too
Piccolo resurgence will once again come in the future, when a new unit is introduced that prevents the entire rotation from going below 1 HP for 1 turn and recover 50% hp at start of next turn (after character passive trigger)😮
Piccolo lasting a lot longer than a lot of new units.
Gammas were snubbed out of top 5 the corebreaker, the support, and everything gamma 1 does is more than what Broly and op can do imo
I mean, i literally took a blue zone beast gohan’s super for double digits with type disadvantage on the first slot with LR gamma 1. What a gigachad, funny how not even the ‘No.2’ unit ssbe took 726k from a super type disadvantage, yet gamma 1 tanks it like a chad he is.
Also gamma was 55% with lvl 1 links, something that shocked me. I even checked if i had items, yet I didn’t so it made me chuckle on how insane he was. My vegeta is rainbow with the anniversary equips. Trust me that i was shock to see vegeta the no.2 unit take that much when gamma and broly took less in slot 1.
gammas too high imo, evoken is just a better run on superheros
Broly is 10000x better
Lying 4 what@@saitama...4959
Omatsu was like "Y'all don't like LR ulthan? BET"
This seems like a list that most people can agree on.
idc what yall say, I loveeeeeeeeee using Rose!!!!! he isnt perfect as a unit, but hes fun for me. I dont give a SHIT about only summoing for "best units" when they get replaced by the time everything gets to global anyways..... and Kelfa might is like a top 3 TUR 😭😭 Dokkan love those U6 female sayians!!
Odd video to bring this up on
Gammas already underrated. If you Rock a double gamma team you can no item run any fight in the game, even 55%
I can’t tell you how nice it is to FINALLY have a sole vegeta unit ACTUALLY being good. when was the last time a vegeta (by himself) unit was in any sort of top 10?
I remember everyone glazing the fuck out of STR Super Vegeta back when SBR was still meta. Other than 6th anni that was pretty much it lmao
I feel like we might be OVER rating these team saving abilities. Theyre AWESOME but it only saves you for a turn... you can still get ass blasted on the very next turn...
I think if they fix how domains work in the future PHY Rose could really help Broly’s team by manually overwriting his super class debuff, especially since Rose can still be run with 2 non Super Bosses 🤔
Honestly they need to buff Super Bosses more with great Extreme Class characters so you dont have to run super class characters on his team. I honestly do hope the anniversary leaves an effect where most of the characters we get after end up being really good.
This is a wild list to see because I think going into this anniversary, you were making an uphill argument to say Future Gohan wasn't the #1 unit in the game.
It’s the best bday present to see vegeta at number 2
INSTANTLY HAD TO CLICK, been waiting on this one
Broly Is clearly After u6 ezas ,
U6 Vegeta in same spot as Beast imo
Hahaha! No, i refuse to believe a unit that takes 1.2million fully build up on slot 1 from blue zone gogeta can match one that takes double digits. I mean, 4 times i have died because of vegeta, since people like to brag about his 80% damage reduction. They forget that he starts the turn at 50% with no damn guard. Beast not only is better defensively, but also helps the team, has an better team and leader skill, supports the team with ki after being hit, he is safe at any slot unlike vegeta and on top of all he has permanent guard. In what universe can vegeta match that?
I’m almost like pissed a little. The power creep in this game after the 9th anniversary isn’t a creep. It’s literally a sprint to where units with 1M and guard can’t tank. Think about that for a second. A unit with a million can’t tank and have guard. A good unit nowadays will have to have 50 dmg reduction, and guard to be good. Dokkan just fodderized my entire box on global rn. That has never happened in dokkan history😔
Yea it has, 7th anniversary lol
But what if bosses disable dodging? MUI is basically useless then
We're talking hypothetical at that point
i think a way they could handle multiple domains is: when a second, or third, domain activate let us choose which one to keep active
Orange piccolo the goat carried all us f2ps on his back for over a year
Rest well my beloved
I completely forgot Piccolo can do a full heal. That's how dominant he's been
This isn't the first time an adult Gohan shows up to DOMINATE the current game in a major celebration where he is the best LR out of the 4 Main LR's, in which the celebration also just so happens to include a Part 1 with a badass Blue-haired fusion, an unexpectedly strong green giant enemy, and appears in a Part 2, where the anticipated, and needed villain counterpart never arrives to contrast the Part 2 Hero unit, but is instead replaced by another dope Hero unit!
Zamasu was better than future Gohan and is better rn.😂😂
if i had a nickel for every time that happened i would have 2 nickels. not a lot but its weird it happened twice?
@@reign1594 that's copium
even weirder is that both the gohans are str
@@reign1594 Zamasu was not better
Nobody agreed with that take back then either
The 9th anniversary has truly been amazing. Your 2 and 3 slot being EZAs highlights a great strategy I hope continues going forward. With cards like Beast Gohan out, the floor to ceiling ratio of usable and non-usable cards is so lop sided its now ridiculously unbearable. How do you entice new players to play when they're trying to draw the newest cards and 90% or more, I'd bet, of the cards they're getting are literally unusable cards that do nothing but take up resources and space? Let alone the free to play cards are built to maybe help out in super battle road and a few other entrance level difficult events? It's getting really bad. In a traditional card game we'd see these older cards rotated out for newer ones, but in this game they just clog up the channels to get the new stuff. Most of these older cards have already been EZA'd as well. It's tough. They can no longer afford to give out bad EZAs.
Considering they must EZA piccolo and ultimate gohan at the same time, I' m not sure if we are going to wait until like 12th anni for their EZA making gohan suffer in the hell of units that cannot tank normals, or we are going to see piccolo being on the top 5 for longer than him being off of it by the time he gets his EZA.
Could you to a top 20 or even 25 LR video? I'm new to the game and trying to figure out which characters to get to build teams.
Beast 🫡