Ira Hayes was the only Native American of a Marine Infantry squad who placed the flag on Mount Surabachi on Iwo Jima. A second staged flag raising was done later with a bigger flag that could be more easily seen across the island. No racial overtones at all. Ira Hayes is an American hero who battled alcoholism for the rest of his life due the traumas he faced on Iwo Jima. Unfortunately for him he could walk into any bar and get a free drink due to his fame and he received thousands of letters a year from fans and people would drive across the country just to meet him.. He appears in the John Wayne Movie the Sands of Iwo Jima with the other 2 surviving members of the squad to reenact the flag raising.
For anyone who wants to learn more about this watch the Clint Eastwoood directed movie "Flags of Our Fathers" it's pretty much about the flag raising and what happened to those men after that.
@@jimclark1131 Correct. Hayes was the marine at the left of the picture of the 2nd flag raising. If Flags of Our Fathers is correct, he was forced against his will to participate in the subsequent bond raising drive so, if anything, the US went out of its way to put a Native American front-and-center. There is controversy in that the government was far more concerned with publicity than accuracy. The historical account was corrected as recently as 2019.
@@jimclark1131 And the guy who took the picture (can't remember his name) was part of the reporting pool only becus he'd been rejected when he tried to enlist in the Marines due to his poor eyesight.
The U.S. didn’t stage a second flag raising. The first flag was really small and it was taken down to be presented to the Secretary of the Navy. This was replaced by a second bigger flag. This 2nd flag raising was captured by photographer Joe Rosenthal and became the flag raising everyone now knows. Three of the six men who raised the second flag were killed in action over the course of the next few days. Harlon Block - KIA Franklin Sousley - KIA Michael Strank - KIA Harold Keller, Harold Schultz, and Ira Hayes (Native American) are the flag raisers who survived. Interestingly, nine years after Ira Hayes died of alcoholism, Johnny Cash wrote a song in his honor.
I'm happy to see what you correctly got Harold Keller and Harold Shultz listed, who were both very recently (2016 and 2019) identified as being in the photo. It was sad to see the families of the other (misidentified) Marines lose what they believed was their families WWII legacy, but correctly identifying the men in the photo was an important task.
Cash didn't write the ballad of Ira Hays, he just did the most well known and (I suppose arguably) the best cover. He was very passionate about it and did quite a lot besides that to bring attention to the treatment of native people, which that song had brought to his attention. It was written by Peter La Farge.
And in the bypassed islands, Japanese soldiers were convinced that the Americans were so evil that they would rip them joint by joint if captured. So even decades later, soldiers were found in bunkers believing they were still at war and would be horrendously tortured if found. That propaganda was so strong it triggered several local conflicts for decades as well.
Hit them were they ain't, a baseball term. We bypassed many Japanese held islands, preferring to cut off their supplies to let them wither on the vine. Of course, the Japanese did a great job of growing, hunting, and fishing for food on the islands. The Aussies will tell you they didn't wither as they were tasked to clear them out. But some islands had to be taken to support an American supply chain including ports and airbases. Admiral Nimitz moved his HQ to Guam from Hawaii.
@@darkriku12 kinda like the left wing propaganda in modern day US from liberals and democrats that have everyone crying "racism!!" About everything and have liberals openly assaulting conservatives verbally and physically at any chance and the media totally ignoring months on months of left wing mobs rioting and killing people
@@inttrovertedmonk851 Yup. I don't know why so many people don't get it. I know Oversimplified kind of botched the reading so it's a bit mischaracterized in the video, but it's 100% meant to be said like, "Aw, dang...ain't that a shame? Nuts!" It's all sarcasm.
Exactly. The US did take some islands in order to set up supply / relay bases, but a lot of Japanese troops were left isolated, uselessly occupying islands in the Pacific.
Most of the islands they landed on were for their airfields. They did skip some and left the Japanese soldiers there to "wither on the vine". Rabaul is a pretty famous example, after they bombed the shit out of it so the Japanese had no aircraft and destroying the Japanese fleet attempting to rescue them they just left thousands of Japanese soldiers stranded in Rabaul for the rest of the war.
@@dayra6425 No, it was because the American forces only bothered taking what was needed. It wasn't totally, if at all, supply lines. They allowed for air forces to be based within range of the next targets or to cover specific operations.
The Pearl Harbor conspiracy is ridiculous. First, it didn't matter if the U.S. declared war on Japan, because the Japanese had declared war anyway. You'd be in a war whether you declared it or not. Secondly, letting the Japanese attack is one thing, not taking any defensive measures is another. The leadership could have easily had all ships at general quarters, all crews at their battle stations, ships sorteeing to get some out of the harbor, have your own fighter planes up for air cover, and let the Japanese attack, and STILL could have easily made the case for going to war, especially after the official Japanese declaration arrived an hour after the battle, which outraged many. Don't believe this conspiracy theory.
Yeah this one always seemed far fetched. They could have prepared for the attack. The attempt alone even if had completely failed by Japan would still be cause to go to war.
It's true. At the time there was very little to be gained by entering the war. We weren't too far removed from WW1 and the American public was sick of war especially in other countries. We were also led by probably the most anti-corruption anti-big business president of our entire history, so it's not like he'd be influenced by weapon manufacturers to enter the war either.
Conspiracy could debunk with one simple fact: Admiral Yamamoto, He told the army not to go to war with US but army refused and he came up with genius plan to crippled american navy for 12 months & no more. Those are his own words.
The reason we didn't bypass the islands is 1) We did bypass the vast majority of the islands 2) This was in the 1940s, not 2000s. The US was not capable of sending air raids on mainland Japan all the way from Hawaii, which meant places like Guam and Iwo Jima were essential
The reason the US did not bypass the islands in the Pacific was because they needed airbase that were in range of the Japanese home island. Okinawa was the key island because it was closest to Japan. Leaving the smaller islands to the south of Okinawa would leave the Americans rear unprotected. There were several hundred thousand troops on islands like Tarawa, Iwo Jima and others. So as costly as it was it had to be done to.keep the US flanks and rear protected.
The US did actually bypass some islands in the Pacific the 2 examples that standout to me are Rabaul (not and island but a base) and Wake which was a US base invaded by Japan at the beginning of the war.
Indeed...the Marianas Islands were taken specifically at the request of the US Army Air Force and Hap Arnold because they would allow B-29s to reach almost all of Japan. Saipan was the first island that the US invaded where there were a large number of Japanese civilians, and the fact that the civilians committed suicide too was a gigantic shock to Americans. Iwo Jima was taken mostly because it would provide a place to base fighters to escort the B-29s, and to take it away from Japan to use as an interceptor base...plus it gave the B-29s a place to land in emergencies. Okinawa was taken to be the main staging point for the first phase of the Allied invasion of Japan.
The islands were needed for recovering damaged aircraft. Before Iwo Jima was completely taken, damaged aircraft were landing. B-29’s that couldn’t make it home were able to land, saving the crews and aircraft. Also large amounts of supplies were moved forward in bulk as the islands were taken, using “shuttle ships” to ensure the supply lines were always full.
Right. "Hit 'em where they ain't" was the baseball analogy used at the time. And parenthetically, the US did have a pretty good idea that Japan was going to attack, but we didn't know where. And one "detail" the video does not mention is that the aircraft carriers were not in port when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor. If they were, the course of the war would have been a lot different.
The first flag raising took place at about 10:30 in the morning on 23/2/45 by members of 2BN/ 28th Reg/ 5th Marine Div. The second flag was placed on Mt Suribachi later in the day, because the first flag was considered too small. Ira Hayes was a native American who was part of the second flag raising. So there was no racial overtones to the raising of a second flag
The island hopping campaign was planned for air cover. They bypassed as many islands as they could with their air cover in order to establish their next air field to then extend the air cover and repeat. My grandfather was a crane operator building those fields. His stories were awesome.
Pearl Harbor was not a false flag. Watch the video on Pearl Harbor and America did NOT want to get involved. We were making money off of supplying England without having to get involved so why would we make a reason to get involved? I think you don’t know enough about the tragedy at Pearl Harbor and it’s insulting to suggest that
@@senyortyNo they don’t. The same people that believe that also believe the Earth is flat and that the moon landing was a hoax. In other words people who have no knowledge whatsoever. America entered the war because America is a noble and righteous nation.
On Pearl Harbor, there have been persistent conspiracy theories that DC knew about the planned raid, but as he said, this has never been proved. It would be pretty stupid to willingly sacrifice much of your entire Pacific fleet (especially since nobody understood quite yet how relatively useless battleships would be in WWII) and your most valuable naval base just to get into the war. You don't enter a war with half your force in flames. There were reports early in the day that planes had gone over a radar station on Oahu, but it was a Sunday morning, the reports got lost in the shuffle, and the attack happened just a few minutes later.
No, American politicians didn't let Pearl Harbor happen on purpose. And yes, while there was indeed another flag raised on Iowa Jima other than the famous photograph. However, the picture of the second flag-raising wasn't staged to cover up a Native American victory. It was because the first flag was deemed too small and couldn't be seen from afar... not to mention it was raised on a water pipe.
US naval strategy before the war revolved entirely around their Battleships, there's pretty much no way they would have been sacrificed purely to start the war. Roosevelt did have some evidence the Japanese were planning a surprise attack, but he and most of his advisors figured the opening strike would be against the far east fleet in the Philippines, which was a motley collection of outdated ships. Oh and the Iwo jima photo wasn't staged, it was however the second larger flag they were putting on the island because the first one couldn't be seen easily from shore hence why the photographer was ready for it. You want to see a staged flag posting lookup the Soviet Union placing the flag in Berlin.
@Ariel Plaza its no secret that FDR very much wanted the US involved in the war in Europe against Germany. Many of the fleet oilers and destroyers of the Pacific Fleet were sent on convoy duty in the Atlantic. There is no way FDR wanted to be fighting on 2 fronts at the same time, with the first engagement being the loss of the Pacific Fleet, the only thing that would have been capable of preventing an invasion of the West Coast.
The U.S. command really didn't know about the Pearl Harbor attack in advance. They knew war was very likely, but they didn't expect Japan to attack without first formally declaring war, nor did they know exactly where or when Japan would attack first. The Japanese government was still involved in diplomatic negotiations with the U.S. when the attack happened. Also, they thought that Hawaii was too far from Japan for such an attack to be possible (they thought an initial attack would happen somewhere farther west). Finally, the U.S. forces at Pearl Harbor were caught completely flat-footed, and it's luck that kept the entire Pacific fleet from being destroyed - something you wouldn't expect if the U.S. had known what was coming. The famous photo at Iwo Jima was not staged. What happened was that someone had put up a smaller flag at the peak of Mt. Suribachi when it was first captured. Secretary of the Navy James Forrestal was on-site, and wanted a larger flag raised. Associated Press photographer Joe Rosenthal took the famous picture after the first flag had been taken down and as the second flag was being put up. Rosenthal wasn't really ready, and he took the shot without even looking through the viewfinder. He sent the film off to Guam to be developed, and was surprised to learn that he'd taken such a great picture. Many people don't realize that the raising of the flag on Iwo Jima didn't happen at the end of the battle. Mt. Suribachi was at the south end of the island, and U.S. Marines took it near the beginning. It took about a month for them to capture the rest of Iwo Jima. By the end of the battle, three of the six soldiers in the picture were dead.
One of the arguments for the Pearl Harbor conspiracy theory is that the three US carriers in the Pacific happened to all be away from Pearl Harbor on the day of the attack, but it doesn't really hold water. Before the Pacific Campaign, aside from a few visionaries like Billy Mitchell, everyone still thought of the battleship as the primary naval weapon, and ours got wrecked. Plus we had no way of knowing the Japanese would end up not destroying the harbor facilities. Meaning you'd have to believe we were willing to cripple our own Navy and force it to start all the way back at California when fighting the biggest naval war ever.
The infamous flag on Iwo Jima was not a reenactment there was another flag that was raised earlier when they found mount seribachi undefended. But there was still fighting elsewhere on the island and later they raised a larger flag that becomes the infamous flag raising none of this was because of the color of the soldiers
Iwo Jima flag raising staged? Yes and no. The first flag raising was not staged by the press. A commander ordered a team up the hill to raise a flag to inspire the troops. When that flag raising happened, the film guy wasn't ready (but there is a still photo of it). The commander wanted the flag to be larger so that more troops could see it (and the smaller flag was his personal flag), so a larger flag was acquired and sent up the hill to be raised in the place of the small one. This time the film and still guys were ready and went up with them. So the raising of the bigger flag was "staged" in a sense, because they waited to make sure the film and still photographers were ready. It was a frame from the second raising's film that was used for the statue in the US Capital. But both raisings were done while fighting was still intense and all of the men in the photos/film were actual combatants (many never came home).
Just a minor point of correction (very minor, but I thought I'd mention it). The statue of the flag raising isn't actually in Washington, D.C., it's in Arlington, Va. Very near the gate to Arlington National Cemetery.
The US did bypass several islands in the war, but we took several larger islands to ensure a supply chain between the navy and air force to ensure we could attack the Japan.
Great reaction. Two things: The US did actually bypass many islands en route to Japan but as you said the distances were great and they needed airfields. Regarding the flag raising in Iwo Jima: No, it was not raised by a group of Native Americans but the photo on which the statue is based was staged. There was a smaller flag raised by the soldiers who took the hill, but an imbedded photographer wanted a photo so they gathered a group to raise a bigger one. That group included Ira Hayes, a Native American from Arizona.
Correct, despite the audacity of the Doolittle raid, which took off from an aircraft carrier, the U.S. needed the islands for airfields -- and also to deny those airfields to the Japanese, who would've used them to continue attacking U.S. naval assets and supply convoys.
A key fact about the War in the Pacific that the video missed: when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, the US aircraft carriers were out to sea on training maneuvers. Thus, they were available several months later for the Battle of the Coral Sea and the Battle of Midway a month after that. This was key as Midway stopped any further eastward movement towards the US mainland.
@Paul Pelosi that is incorrect. They were not on training missions. The USS Enterprise was ferrying 12 F4F-3's to Wake Island to VMF 211 and were returning to Pearl Harbor on the morning it was attacked being just west of Oahu. USS Lexington was ferrying 18 SB2U-3 Vindicators to VMSB 231on Midway Island and were 500 miles SE of Pearl when it was attacked. The USS Saratoga was on the West Coast in Bremerton undergoing an overhaul. USS Yorktown, Wasp, Ranger and Hornet were part of the Atlantic Fleet.
The chain of islands were used for ground based heavy bombers, refitting subs, and supplies. Also to prevent Japanese force from launching attacks in Australia. The second picture was taken because the first raising wasn’t caught on film. There was Native Americans in the first raising, but they couldn’t find all the guys who were there the first time. Some of them had died.
My grandfather's where at Pearl respectivly one (mom's pop was in the Navy, dad's pop in the Army at Schofield Barracks) on that faithful day in Dec. nearly 80 years ago. Survived and fought the war with great resolve. Proud of my Grand Pap's
It's well known that we knew there was a potential attack coming towards pearl harbor. There's plenty of proof of it. You can't traverse halfway across the Pacific ocean with a huge fleet without anybody noticing.
@@willvr4 we didn’t know Japan was attacking Pearl Harbor all we knew was an attack was coming it was just arrogance they thought they wouldn’t go for Pearl Harbor that they would bypass it because they knew how much was stationed there and their navy was small and not as advanced as ours
Well there is still a big gap between him being finding them plausible and those that just believe them all. Would rather have somebody think of all scenarios rather than just one or two.
There were two photographs of the flag-raising in Iwo Jima. The first had a smaller flag. The second had a much larger one, and that one was staged. Also, only one Native American soldier helped raise it, Ira Hayes.
Some of the Islands couldn't be 'bypassed' because either their ports were needed (and until late 44 often held significantly sized Japanese naval units) but also many were airbases. You don't leave the equivalent (or more ) of a carrier on your flank, plus those islands could also be repurposed for American air power. And even so we did bypass the vast majority of Islands but altogether there were still a few dozen or so that needed to be taken or otherwise neutralized. By the way, the largest (and last) Island we took - Okinawa - was technically part of Japan though not the mainland and was close enough and big enough that we needed it as a main base for our anticipated Invasion of Japan.
But it's sad when someone puts out such blatantly false accusations. Sad in that it was said, and sad that it was due to ignorance of the actual facts.
Back then saying "nuts" in US was akin to saying "F off!" now. My uncle fought in the Battle of the Bulge and earned 2 bronze stars and purple heart (wounded in battle). He came back in good shape and worked at the J&L steel mill in Aliquippa PA--big tough ol' guy--about 5'11'' 220lbs with forearms the size of your lower leg. Those mills, and others in the Ohio Valley, the Monongahela valley around Pittsburgh and mills in Gary Indiana, etc. were called then "the arsenal of Democracy" because the steel was used to create the tanks, planes, etc. in huge numbers for the war.
Don't forget Detroit -- the retooled auto factories were cranking out planes, tanks and jeeps at an amazing pace! The entire "rust belt" was kicking ass.
The first flag was small and the Marine commander wanted the flag. So, he sent a runner to the top to raise another, larger flag. By that time, the photographer, Joe Rosenthal, had made it to the top. He snapped a pic of the second flag. The Pima Native, Ira Hayes, was actually in the iconic picture.
America also was one of the smallest armies in the world at the start of WW2 it was just after pearl harbor we went from one of the smallest to one of the largest over several months
My Grandfather was one of the first men on the beaches of Iwo Jima. He said how they would describe what it was like running up the beach: "So many bullets where hitting everywhere around you that it looked like it was raining but you weren't getting wet"
They had to capture the islands in the pacific to set up bases of operations. So it then became easier to invade the main land which ended up not happening because the Bomb that was developed.
They thought the first flag was too small. Then they brought up a bigger flag and staged the second way bigger flag, but no one really noticed.The men who raised the first flag, according to the Marine Corps’ statement Wednesday, were Bradley, 1st Lt. Harold G. Schrier, Plt. Sgt. Ernest I. Thomas Jr., Sgt. Henry O. Hansen, Cpl. Charles W. Lindberg and Pvt. Philip L. Ward. You are talking about Ira Hayes who helped raised the second famous flag. Nobody was insecure that he was an Indian. He and the other two Marines, the only three that survived Iwo Jima, were put on War Bond Fundraising trip across the entire country to raise money for the war effort. They were famous in America, but Ira was having severe PTSD and became an sadly an alcoholic. His alcoholism got so bad that he was unable to continue the war bond drive. He just couldn't deal with being famous, while the other four Marines in the picture died on Iwo, which he was close friends with all four. It's a tragic story, but it's also tragic that the first Marines who put up the first flag we're not given any attention at all, but when they raised the first flag, as small as it was, got a great roar of cheers and ship horns from the Marines and Sailors who were in battle at the time. But the men from a 30-man patrol from Echo Company, 2nd Battalion, 28th Marine Regiment should also be remembered, because the put the first American flag up on Mt. Suribachi. Here's where the whole story. Just wanted to clarify what really happened at Iwo Jima. www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2016/08/24/there-were-two-flags-raised-at-iwo-jima-the-marine-corps-now-says-it-misidentified-men-at-both-of-them/
My grandfather was a WWII vet in the Pacific, he said not only did you have to deal with Japanese forces but major heat and storms. Ocean waves would toss the PT boats all over jumping from island to island in storms. He watched as all of his platoon mates were picked off one by one and always wondered how and why he survived. But yes, it was all about fortification and strategy. By clearing out those islands, it gave the US a better foothold and helped supply chains run more smoothly.
Why not bypass the islands? Almost all of them had airstrips, leaving them intact would have left American supply lines vulnerable. The US also wanted to use those airstrips to launch bombers against the Japanese home islands.
I think it's universally accepted that the US military didn't know there would be an attack on Pearl Harbor, but I think they probably were on high alert for Japanese aggression in general. The fact none of our carriers were actually at Pearl Harbor attests to our readiness but the sheer number of large ships available to bomb there also attests to a lack of knowledge of the attack beforehand. We suffered some very bad losses in that attack, just not a loss of carriers.
Amazing !!! Todays kids have prolly never heard this most important moment in western history. The reason for island hopping in the south Pacific was supply chain ....the key to any war.
General MacArthur was a narcissist. When my grandfather returned to the US, MacArthur staged a photo op of himself walking down the ramp to the dock as thousands of soldiers who hadn’t touched US soil in years waited anxiously behind him
You mean like 90% of generals on the winning side of wars in history would have? I'm not saying he wasn't a narcissist but he's hardly the only one. Most leaders and generals are, if they lose then thay are fools, if they win they are heros
The *Pykrete* aircraft carrier was a real possibility they built a small demonstration ship which is now at the bottom of a cold Canadian lake they quit the research & building of a possible *Pykrete* aircraft carrier because by that time they'd overcome the U-Boat threat with better weapons Intel Etc.
It is a fascinating and impressive idea, basically making an artificial iceberg airbase in the Atlantic to close the gap in fighter cover. One of many crazy ones you get in wartime, just looking up the oddball test weapons and such from warfare over time is fun as they are often trying anything that looks like it might work (look up the batbombs of WW2 as well)
@@AnalyticalMenace it is not so much dumb as it proved proved unnecessary, longer range air cover, better convoy defense another big factor was being able to read the German naval codes with relative ease. There was just no need for it in the end.
To speak on what you said about it happening again, my 6th grade teacher always said, “history forgotten is doomed to repeat itself” this was when we had a holocaust survivor speak at our school. I think about it everyday
Island hopping was a McArthur idea. Nimitz wanted a more direct approach. Roosevelt settled on both. MacArthur wanted to take in the Japanese one block at a time to eliminate them. He was partially correct in doing so. The US had a difficult time cutting the supply line and it took time. That easily could have been Japan withdrawing troops back to the mainland for a massive all out battle. One that would have been more ferocious than any battle that took place. Meanwhile Nimitz engaged the imperial navy head on and made attacks on the mainland.
Marines raised the flag at Iowa Jima. The first photo taken was of the marines after they had taken the hill from the Japanese. After a politician informed the marine command that he wanted the raised flag so he could hang it on his wall the flag was lowered and given to the politician. Immediately afterward a second flag was raised in place of the old one which is the one that the famous flag raising photo is taken from. Among the men who raised the second flag was a marine by the name of Ira Hayes who was a Native American of the Pima tribe.
I never understood why people question why experts do certain things. If ignoring the islands made the most sense ,they people who've dedicated their lives to the military wouöd've done it lol.
The US did go around a LOT of islands. Everyone forgets how VAST the Pacific Ocean is. It is roughly 3X as wide as the Atlantic. Everyone also forgets how short ranged all the ships were. Everyone also forgets that there was literally NOTHING in the Pacific in regards to infrastructure, so your maximum range is roughly ~30~40% of your fuel as you have to go TO an island and back on your tank of fuel.
So about the Pearl Harbor question, US intelligence was given warnings that something was going to happen eventually. A few hours prior to the attack, radar stations did pick up a large mass of planes but they ignored it, thinking it was a early-morning training.
@@Jake_from_State_Farm the issue you bring up is why I always laughed at the conspiracy theory. Do people really think even if we were ready and the Japanese attack failed the US public would have been "nahh fam... we're good. We stopped the attack. Lets go about our business as usual".
we had an Italian camp in my city of Rochester, NY, and everyday Italian people would show up with food and clothes for the prisoners and sit outside the fence and chat, not one ever tried to escape, and many came back after the war to live
even if they knew pearl harbor was going to happen, that would still would have given the president no choice but to declare war. also the US only declared war on Japan and not Germany, it was Hitler that dragged the US into Europe by declaring war
Bypassing the islands was not an option because of distances. Remember, ships didn't have the ability to launch aircraft from the distance they do today. And the Japanese aircraft could reach the carriers from those islands when they got close enough to the Japanese mainland. The alies wanted to use the airfields too.
7:45 Discovered memos from Hitler’s economics minister revealed that Germany had about 5 months of strategic oil reserves that would sustain the German military in combat operations. Having almost zero oil reserves in Germany, their imports from Romania were insufficient so it was kind of a “do or die” gamble for Germany to capture the Russian oil fields in the caucuses. That’s why Germany, famed for its mechanization, still used horse-drawn supply carts throughout the war, and that’s why they opened a second front, because they probably didn’t have the oil reserves to try to conquer the British isles.
Just ran across your channel and I'm an instant fan! I'm a U.S. Southern woman who joined the Army at 18. I wanted to see the world and my station was in Frankfurt, GE. This was late 70,s early 80,s. I had a blast- jumped on trains and made so many trips across Europe. My grandmother was born in Dundee Scotland and our family still holds to the traditions passed down. I must say that the worst experience I had with another person was a British woman in London who heard me tell of my heritage, said, Oh, your one of those porridge eaters! Guess there must be prejudice against the Scots but she was an asshole and got away and continued to have a great time in London. Way off topic but I love you guys!
It would make no sense for the US military command to allow that attack on Pearl Harbor to happen just to enter the war. It would potentially have left them seriously weakened, in the middle of WW2. They couldn't have predicted that the Japanese attack wouldn't have been far more damaging. It would have been an insane gamble. The Japanese forces could have taken out everything and crippled the US almost completely. Public opinion would have been changed either way, whether the US was taken by surprise or not. Just seeing Japan attack PH like that, even in a failed raid (which it wouldn't have been, they would have still managed to do a lot of damage) would have galvanized public opinion and the US would have entered the war either way. There is no conspiracy there.
The flag thing was a smaller flag, the photo op that showed the soldiers putting the huge one up was for propaganda purposes. A tiny little 10 inch flag isn't very photogenic. Wasnt just about race.
@17:15 the Americans did bypass the biggest islands those big battles were on the tiniest “easiest” islands to attack. Guadalcanal was really the only one that was big but the US was forced to attack bc the Japanese were fortifying it into a base where they could effectively shutoff and isolate Australia from the US. Beyond Guadalcanal the US didn’t attack any of the Japanese main bases and just bypassed them ie. Rabaul.
yeah, the oversimplified video really fails to convey the magnitude of america's industrial and agricultural contributions to britain, china, and the soviet union, including millions of tons of food and military equipment for millions of soldiers.
Yes, there are conspiracy theories that the Roosevelt administration knew about the Pearl Harbor attack and let it happen anyway but the evidence is weak at best. They knew an attack was coming but not when or where. They thought most likely the Philippines would be attacked. You have to put yourself in their shoes. At this point in the war most naval leaders don't think of the aircraft carrier as a first strike weapon. Even after the British success at Taranto, the battleship is still considered the main naval weapon. The idea that a large fleet of Japanese battleships sailing across the Pacific to attack Hawaii was considered a remote possibility. Did the US Military get warnings hours before the attack that something might be happening they most certainly did. Multiple ships sighted a submarine around the entrance to Pearl Harbor where no submarine should be. The US Ward attacked that sub and reported to higher ups who disregarded it. Radar picked up the Japanese planes coming in but because there was also a flight of B-17 bombers coming in that morning from the mainland this opportunity was also lost.
It is interesting that the attack on Pearl Harbor could be argued to have reshaped naval warfare significantly just by the fact that the US carriers were out to sea at the time. It forced the US navy to reorganize the ships it had in good shape around the carriers while they rebuilt the fleet. That set the pattern you see in the way naval power is organized when deployed in modern warfare, with electronic warfare and missile systems added in more recently.
I’m American and I can say that no the government didn’t know Japan was going to take them but that was clear signs that something was coming On radar they saw the planes but because the technology was so new they thought it was birds and didn’t warn anyone
As a Singaporean, the Japanese occupation and the fall of Singapore is still a hot topic in School.I remember one time during recess they only sold steamed tapioca and water as a way to remember the harsh and brutal way Singapore was treated under the Japanese rule and since I’m Chinese it only intensifies when I heard stories about the Japanese killing the Chinese ethnic groups there specifically it doesn’t matter if you’re half Chinese half Malay as long you had a single drop of Chinese blood in your veins they will come for you. I have also heard of War heroes one that hits me home was a soldier known as Eter Foo, he had a front-and-centre seat to the Battle of Singapore, when he was deployed to the frontlines as part of the Medical Auxiliary Service (MAS). Despite the mismatch, due to their inadequate weapons and their subsequent defeat, Foo was one of the fortunate few who survived the battle with the Japanese. He survived the Sook Ching massacre which the Japanese killed many men and women and probably even children, thanks to his tall build and quick thinking, Foo managed to escape from the Japanese by hopping over a fence, but he didn’t elude them for long. He was caught by the Japanese and interrogated luckily he was saved by his mother by bribing soldiers to release him, he learnt Japanese and was eventually approached by a resistance fighter during the Japanese occupation and worked as a spy.His espionage missions included collecting highly classified information, such as the models of Japanese fighter planes, and the numbers of deployed Japanese troops. Foo served as a spy until the Japanese surrendered in 1945.
A sad YT recommendation: Neil Halloran's "The Fallen of World War II." A fun YT recommendation: Jack Rackam's "America's Manliest President - TheLife & Times of *Theodore* Roosevelt."
I was hoping someone would recommend "The Fallen of World War II"...it's astounding, breathtaking and so, so well done. I've not seen the other recommendation, but Theodore Roosevelt is my favorite president, so I hope they do this one too!!
17:13 The allies did skip one Japanese fortress, Rabaul. Instead of capturing it, they just isolated it and continued on. 19:00 The Iwo Jima photograph made famous in newspapers was the SECOND U.S. flag raised on Mount Suribachi. The first one was deemed "too small" and so it was ordered to take a bigger one up there and replace the first. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raising_the_Flag_on_Iwo_Jima
Japan's greatest strategic mistake was their attack on Pearl Harbor. The six Japanese carriers (Akagi, Kaga, Soriyu, Hiriyu, Shokaku, Zuikaku) would have been better used in supporting the initial southern island offensive, or in strikes supporting occupations of Wake and/or Midway, because there would be been a much different public reaction to Japanese forces attacking advanced military bases in the Philippines or some small islands in the middle of the ocean, compared to the main base at Pearl Harbor. The result would be a declaration of war with the American Pacific fleet sailing out of Hawaii to be sunk in the deep waters of the Pacific in the following year. At that point, the Japanese goal of a negotiated peace treaty while America turns against the fascists in Europe might have been possible. But the attack on Pearl Harbor made it personal for the Americans, and it was all over for Japan from there.
If you haven't seen it yet, the documentary "World War 2 From Space" is incredible. Great videos guys, I really enjoy them! FYI, My grandfather was onboard his submarine the USS Tautog (SS 199) in port at Pearl Harbor when the bombs started dropping. He spent the entirety of WW2 scared shitless beneath enemy waters, hunting enemy ships and doing his part. As for the thought that Pearl was allowed to happen in order to drum up support for the war, I doubt there is any truth to that. Our intelligence services did expect an attack, but they had no idea when or where until it was too late. In point of fact, the Pacific fleet was moved from the west coast of the US to Pearl in anticipation of a conflict with Japan. Its true Americans were against joining the war, but they had just fought in WW1, and were barely coming out of the ashes of the great depression. Not a lot of enthusiasm for another costly war after those events.
Regarding the a-bombs: First you have to remember, the high casualty rate at the time of the decision to drop the bombs. At that time the allies had lost 4 million soldiers in the Pacific theater. Japan 2,5 million, mainly against the Americans. And American planners projected an invasion of Japan would cost up to a million lives, soldiers and civilians. And on top of that Japan refused to surrender and stop the war, multiple times. Despite the heavy military losses, and American bombings of Japan. These were the main reasons for dropping the bombs. You can argue the use of the bombs to the end of days, but probably the bombs saved a lot of lives. After the second bomb President Truman said: "The only language they seem to understand is the one we have been using to bombard them. When you have to deal with a beast you have to treat him like a beast. It is most regrettable but nevertheless true" That quote seem to me, a bit too "brutal". But it kind of shows how the Americans saw them.
The statue and picture of the Iwo Jima flag-raising came from the second picture taken of that event. The only Native American in the initial group was Ira Hayes. The initial group was swapped out because the flag they used was too small. The second group (the one that everyone sees in pictures and the statues) used a much larger flag from one of the landing ships. Interestingly enough, both groups came from the same Marine Corps division but the individuals were changed out for reasons that I am unsure of. To put it simply, the first group's flag wasn't big enough for the publicity, so a second group was sent in with a bigger flag to recreate the raising of the flag.
My man in the wool cap, please be careful spreading conspiracies. The Iwo Jima remark and the Pearl Harbor theory have both been debunked. Clint Eastwood directed two films about Iwo Jima and WWII that touch on what you said. Flags of Our Fathers and Letters to Iwo Jima are the two films. Check em out.
@17:30 Great Question. The answer is, those were the ones that were deemed strategic, many others were infact bypassed and hopped over due to logistics. Also land Bomber range.
Also, the famous picture of the US soldier kissing the girl on the street when coming home is kind of a funny story. That was not a couple. The soldier just grabbed a girl and kissed her in excitement. That's why she's gone limp in the photo. She has told the story publicly and said she did not appreciate it. Lol
The movie directed by Clint Eastwood "Flags on Our Fathers" it is explained why it happened it wasn't staged the men just were happy to have a victory and it was a message to the navy ships in the area it was now ok to land. Remember these were marines that landed on the islands first and a signal needed to be known since Japan was listening in on the communications. They changed to Navajo language since that was the only language not well known by European and Asian countries.💗🦋
downvoted for conspiracy theorys about pearl harbor. "they let their own guys die for the greater good". its clear that he never read anything on the topic. otherwise great reaction just like part 1. respect from germany.
This is way late but the Daniel Craig movie, Defiance, was based in the father and uncles of a friend of mine. He would answer the door and a random person would be crying and telling him how his father saved their life. I got to go to a private screening of the movie in Tampa. It was incredibly emotional.
The Ginger bloke was wrong in just about everything he said. I think you need to watch the Fallen of WWII, in it you will learn twice as many Americans died in the European Theater than the Pacific Theater.
@@jordanc3714, you are right, it wasn't twice as many Americans died in the European Theater than the Pacific Theater it was closer to three times as many Americans died in the European Theater than died in the Pacific Theater.
OK, first they were Marine (not soldiers) who raised the flag on Iwo Jima. Second, the famous photo wasn't "staged" but it did depict the raising of the second flag there. The first flag raised on Mt Suribachi was smaller. And lastly, one of the flag raisers was a Native American (Ira Hayes) who died tragically (from alcoholism) years after his return to the US. Three of the second flag raisers were killed later in the battle for Iwo Jima.
If you've never listened to anything by Sabaton - they're awesome. Sort of "I came for the heavy metal and got an awesome history lesson, too!" I don't even *like* heavy metal generally and I think they're awesome.
No native Americans in Iwo Jima flag raisings(there were two). The famous photo was legit, not staged. Three of the six marines died in the days of fighting afterward on the island...tough gig.
Many in the US government didn't believe that the Japanese would actually fight the US. The Pearl Harbor attack wasn't even popular within the Japanese military. Yamamoto knew it was the only way for Japan to maintain any advances it had made. Resources just weren't there for them. Dan Carlin has a series of podcasts on the whole war in the Pacific called Super nova in the East. I recommend it.
Ira Hayes was the only Native American of a Marine Infantry squad who placed the flag on Mount Surabachi on Iwo Jima. A second staged flag raising was done later with a bigger flag that could be more easily seen across the island. No racial overtones at all. Ira Hayes is an American hero who battled alcoholism for the rest of his life due the traumas he faced on Iwo Jima. Unfortunately for him he could walk into any bar and get a free drink due to his fame and he received thousands of letters a year from fans and people would drive across the country just to meet him.. He appears in the John Wayne Movie the Sands of Iwo Jima with the other 2 surviving members of the squad to reenact the flag raising.
For anyone who wants to learn more about this watch the Clint Eastwoood directed movie "Flags of Our Fathers" it's pretty much about the flag raising and what happened to those men after that.
@@jimclark1131 Correct. Hayes was the marine at the left of the picture of the 2nd flag raising. If Flags of Our Fathers is correct, he was forced against his will to participate in the subsequent bond raising drive so, if anything, the US went out of its way to put a Native American front-and-center. There is controversy in that the government was far more concerned with publicity than accuracy. The historical account was corrected as recently as 2019.
@@jimclark1131 And the guy who took the picture (can't remember his name) was part of the reporting pool only becus he'd been rejected when he tried to enlist in the Marines due to his poor eyesight.
ok I guess he was part of the second flag raising. still no racial intent was involved on the behalf of that raising of the flag.
@@golfr-kg9ss yea.. that one is definitely persuaded by hollywood....
The U.S. didn’t stage a second flag raising. The first flag was really small and it was taken down to be presented to the Secretary of the Navy. This was replaced by a second bigger flag. This 2nd flag raising was captured by photographer Joe Rosenthal and became the flag raising everyone now knows. Three of the six men who raised the second flag were killed in action over the course of the next few days.
Harlon Block - KIA
Franklin Sousley - KIA
Michael Strank - KIA
Harold Keller, Harold Schultz, and Ira Hayes (Native American) are the flag raisers who survived. Interestingly, nine years after Ira Hayes died of alcoholism, Johnny Cash wrote a song in his honor.
I'm happy to see what you correctly got Harold Keller and Harold Shultz listed, who were both very recently (2016 and 2019) identified as being in the photo. It was sad to see the families of the other (misidentified) Marines lose what they believed was their families WWII legacy, but correctly identifying the men in the photo was an important task.
Cash didn't write the ballad of Ira Hays, he just did the most well known and (I suppose arguably) the best cover. He was very passionate about it and did quite a lot besides that to bring attention to the treatment of native people, which that song had brought to his attention.
It was written by Peter La Farge.
Thank you for correcting that ridiculous comment from Dave.
We did in fact bypass many of those islands only grabbing the strategically important ones!!!!
And in the bypassed islands, Japanese soldiers were convinced that the Americans were so evil that they would rip them joint by joint if captured. So even decades later, soldiers were found in bunkers believing they were still at war and would be horrendously tortured if found. That propaganda was so strong it triggered several local conflicts for decades as well.
Hit them were they ain't, a baseball term. We bypassed many Japanese held islands, preferring to cut off their supplies to let them wither on the vine. Of course, the Japanese did a great job of growing, hunting, and fishing for food on the islands. The Aussies will tell you they didn't wither as they were tasked to clear them out. But some islands had to be taken to support an American supply chain including ports and airbases. Admiral Nimitz moved his HQ to Guam from Hawaii.
@@darkriku12 kinda like the left wing propaganda in modern day US from liberals and democrats that have everyone crying "racism!!" About everything and have liberals openly assaulting conservatives verbally and physically at any chance and the media totally ignoring months on months of left wing mobs rioting and killing people
@@Ooooyerr are you gonna cry😢
@@Ooooyerr oof that’s some heavy cringe
The bit with the Battle of the Bulge, where the reply was "NUTS" is no joke. That was his actual reply.
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@@2wodrqwoa oh that's beeeeeautiful!
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@@2wodrqwoa That's not what they had meant when it was said. More like aw nuts.
@@inttrovertedmonk851 Yup. I don't know why so many people don't get it. I know Oversimplified kind of botched the reading so it's a bit mischaracterized in the video, but it's 100% meant to be said like, "Aw, dang...ain't that a shame? Nuts!" It's all sarcasm.
We did bypass many of the islands. It was called island hopping.
It was probably for supply reasons
Exactly. The US did take some islands in order to set up supply / relay bases, but a lot of Japanese troops were left isolated, uselessly occupying islands in the Pacific.
Most of the islands they landed on were for their airfields. They did skip some and left the Japanese soldiers there to "wither on the vine". Rabaul is a pretty famous example, after they bombed the shit out of it so the Japanese had no aircraft and destroying the Japanese fleet attempting to rescue them they just left thousands of Japanese soldiers stranded in Rabaul for the rest of the war.
@@dayra6425 No, it was because the American forces only bothered taking what was needed. It wasn't totally, if at all, supply lines. They allowed for air forces to be based within range of the next targets or to cover specific operations.
The Pearl Harbor conspiracy is ridiculous. First, it didn't matter if the U.S. declared war on Japan, because the Japanese had declared war anyway. You'd be in a war whether you declared it or not. Secondly, letting the Japanese attack is one thing, not taking any defensive measures is another. The leadership could have easily had all ships at general quarters, all crews at their battle stations, ships sorteeing to get some out of the harbor, have your own fighter planes up for air cover, and let the Japanese attack, and STILL could have easily made the case for going to war, especially after the official Japanese declaration arrived an hour after the battle, which outraged many.
Don't believe this conspiracy theory.
Yeah this one always seemed far fetched. They could have prepared for the attack. The attempt alone even if had completely failed by Japan would still be cause to go to war.
It's true. At the time there was very little to be gained by entering the war. We weren't too far removed from WW1 and the American public was sick of war especially in other countries. We were also led by probably the most anti-corruption anti-big business president of our entire history, so it's not like he'd be influenced by weapon manufacturers to enter the war either.
Conspiracy could debunk with one simple fact: Admiral Yamamoto, He told the army not to go to war with US but army refused and he came up with genius plan to crippled american navy for 12 months & no more. Those are his own words.
it's also like, extremely well documented on both sides
The reason we didn't bypass the islands is
1) We did bypass the vast majority of the islands
2) This was in the 1940s, not 2000s. The US was not capable of sending air raids on mainland Japan all the way from Hawaii, which meant places like Guam and Iwo Jima were essential
crazy how you were alive back then
@@5555aa-xr5zccrazy how it’s literally common sense
@@jakefromstatefarm9934 Apparently a sense of humor isn't?
The reason the US did not bypass the islands in the Pacific was because they needed airbase that were in range of the Japanese home island. Okinawa was the key island because it was closest to Japan. Leaving the smaller islands to the south of Okinawa would leave the Americans rear unprotected. There were several hundred thousand troops on islands like Tarawa, Iwo Jima and others. So as costly as it was it had to be done to.keep the US flanks and rear protected.
The US did actually bypass some islands in the Pacific the 2 examples that standout to me are Rabaul (not and island but a base) and Wake which was a US base invaded by Japan at the beginning of the war.
For the heavy bombers and supply stores.
Indeed...the Marianas Islands were taken specifically at the request of the US Army Air Force and Hap Arnold because they would allow B-29s to reach almost all of Japan. Saipan was the first island that the US invaded where there were a large number of Japanese civilians, and the fact that the civilians committed suicide too was a gigantic shock to Americans. Iwo Jima was taken mostly because it would provide a place to base fighters to escort the B-29s, and to take it away from Japan to use as an interceptor base...plus it gave the B-29s a place to land in emergencies. Okinawa was taken to be the main staging point for the first phase of the Allied invasion of Japan.
spot on
The islands were needed for recovering damaged aircraft. Before Iwo Jima was completely taken, damaged aircraft were landing. B-29’s that couldn’t make it home were able to land, saving the crews and aircraft. Also large amounts of supplies were moved forward in bulk as the islands were taken, using “shuttle ships” to ensure the supply lines were always full.
They did skip Islands they called it the "Island hopping strategy"
Right. "Hit 'em where they ain't" was the baseball analogy used at the time. And parenthetically, the US did have a pretty good idea that Japan was going to attack, but we didn't know where. And one "detail" the video does not mention is that the aircraft carriers were not in port when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor. If they were, the course of the war would have been a lot different.
The first flag raising took place at about 10:30 in the morning on 23/2/45 by members of 2BN/ 28th Reg/ 5th Marine Div. The second flag was placed on Mt Suribachi later in the day, because the first flag was considered too small. Ira Hayes was a native American who was part of the second flag raising. So there was no racial overtones to the raising of a second flag
No racial overtones in the 1940s segregated U.S. military?....lmao
@@weareafrican I didn't say that, my statement was in reply to what they said in the video.
@@weareafrican guess you've never heard of the "Redball express"
The island hopping campaign was planned for air cover. They bypassed as many islands as they could with their air cover in order to establish their next air field to then extend the air cover and repeat. My grandfather was a crane operator building those fields. His stories were awesome.
Pearl Harbor was not a false flag. Watch the video on Pearl Harbor and America did NOT want to get involved. We were making money off of supplying England without having to get involved so why would we make a reason to get involved? I think you don’t know enough about the tragedy at Pearl Harbor and it’s insulting to suggest that
no its a valid theory and many americans believe it too
@@senyortyNo they don’t. The same people that believe that also believe the Earth is flat and that the moon landing was a hoax.
In other words people who have no knowledge whatsoever.
America entered the war because America is a noble and righteous nation.
Its just dumb @senyorty
@@senyorty Popularity does not equate to accuracy.
@@christopherjohns1566 and i didnt say it did. LOL
The flag photo was not staged. That was a different photo called the "Gung Ho". Just one of the six was Native American.
I was going to debunk all of the conspiracies and questions one of you raised, but seems everyone already has lol
On Pearl Harbor, there have been persistent conspiracy theories that DC knew about the planned raid, but as he said, this has never been proved. It would be pretty stupid to willingly sacrifice much of your entire Pacific fleet (especially since nobody understood quite yet how relatively useless battleships would be in WWII) and your most valuable naval base just to get into the war. You don't enter a war with half your force in flames. There were reports early in the day that planes had gone over a radar station on Oahu, but it was a Sunday morning, the reports got lost in the shuffle, and the attack happened just a few minutes later.
@@johnalden5821 The Americans were expecting a squadron of B-17s to arrive, which they did in the middle of the Japanese attack...
No, American politicians didn't let Pearl Harbor happen on purpose. And yes, while there was indeed another flag raised on Iowa Jima other than the famous photograph. However, the picture of the second flag-raising wasn't staged to cover up a Native American victory. It was because the first flag was deemed too small and couldn't be seen from afar... not to mention it was raised on a water pipe.
US naval strategy before the war revolved entirely around their Battleships, there's pretty much no way they would have been sacrificed purely to start the war. Roosevelt did have some evidence the Japanese were planning a surprise attack, but he and most of his advisors figured the opening strike would be against the far east fleet in the Philippines, which was a motley collection of outdated ships.
Oh and the Iwo jima photo wasn't staged, it was however the second larger flag they were putting on the island because the first one couldn't be seen easily from shore hence why the photographer was ready for it. You want to see a staged flag posting lookup the Soviet Union placing the flag in Berlin.
it was just idiot ball holding by the military heads..ON BOTH SIDES
@Ariel Plaza its no secret that FDR very much wanted the US involved in the war in Europe against Germany. Many of the fleet oilers and destroyers of the Pacific Fleet were sent on convoy duty in the Atlantic. There is no way FDR wanted to be fighting on 2 fronts at the same time, with the first engagement being the loss of the Pacific Fleet, the only thing that would have been capable of preventing an invasion of the West Coast.
The us was basically prepping but wasn’t quiet ready yet:
@@emilylewis5373 still idiot ball they had enough warnigns but ignored
The U.S. command really didn't know about the Pearl Harbor attack in advance. They knew war was very likely, but they didn't expect Japan to attack without first formally declaring war, nor did they know exactly where or when Japan would attack first. The Japanese government was still involved in diplomatic negotiations with the U.S. when the attack happened. Also, they thought that Hawaii was too far from Japan for such an attack to be possible (they thought an initial attack would happen somewhere farther west). Finally, the U.S. forces at Pearl Harbor were caught completely flat-footed, and it's luck that kept the entire Pacific fleet from being destroyed - something you wouldn't expect if the U.S. had known what was coming.
The famous photo at Iwo Jima was not staged. What happened was that someone had put up a smaller flag at the peak of Mt. Suribachi when it was first captured. Secretary of the Navy James Forrestal was on-site, and wanted a larger flag raised. Associated Press photographer Joe Rosenthal took the famous picture after the first flag had been taken down and as the second flag was being put up. Rosenthal wasn't really ready, and he took the shot without even looking through the viewfinder. He sent the film off to Guam to be developed, and was surprised to learn that he'd taken such a great picture.
Many people don't realize that the raising of the flag on Iwo Jima didn't happen at the end of the battle. Mt. Suribachi was at the south end of the island, and U.S. Marines took it near the beginning. It took about a month for them to capture the rest of Iwo Jima. By the end of the battle, three of the six soldiers in the picture were dead.
One of the arguments for the Pearl Harbor conspiracy theory is that the three US carriers in the Pacific happened to all be away from Pearl Harbor on the day of the attack, but it doesn't really hold water. Before the Pacific Campaign, aside from a few visionaries like Billy Mitchell, everyone still thought of the battleship as the primary naval weapon, and ours got wrecked. Plus we had no way of knowing the Japanese would end up not destroying the harbor facilities. Meaning you'd have to believe we were willing to cripple our own Navy and force it to start all the way back at California when fighting the biggest naval war ever.
The infamous flag on Iwo Jima was not a reenactment there was another flag that was raised earlier when they found mount seribachi undefended. But there was still fighting elsewhere on the island and later they raised a larger flag that becomes the infamous flag raising none of this was because of the color of the soldiers
@Caddy Jim why do you use the word "infamous"? I believe the correct word is famous, since the word infamous does not apply.
@@jeffburnham6611 He made a grammatical mistake. We know what he means.
Iwo Jima flag raising staged? Yes and no. The first flag raising was not staged by the press. A commander ordered a team up the hill to raise a flag to inspire the troops. When that flag raising happened, the film guy wasn't ready (but there is a still photo of it).
The commander wanted the flag to be larger so that more troops could see it (and the smaller flag was his personal flag), so a larger flag was acquired and sent up the hill to be raised in the place of the small one. This time the film and still guys were ready and went up with them.
So the raising of the bigger flag was "staged" in a sense, because they waited to make sure the film and still photographers were ready. It was a frame from the second raising's film that was used for the statue in the US Capital.
But both raisings were done while fighting was still intense and all of the men in the photos/film were actual combatants (many never came home).
Just a minor point of correction (very minor, but I thought I'd mention it). The statue of the flag raising isn't actually in Washington, D.C., it's in Arlington, Va. Very near the gate to Arlington National Cemetery.
The US did bypass several islands in the war, but we took several larger islands to ensure a supply chain between the navy and air force to ensure we could attack the Japan.
"The Japan"
Exactly. The US needed the islands to use as airfields for the bombers needed to soften up the next one.
The Air Force didn't come into service until 1947, after the war had ended. I think you meant to say the Army Air Corps.
"The Japan"
Great reaction. Two things: The US did actually bypass many islands en route to Japan but as you said the distances were great and they needed airfields. Regarding the flag raising in Iwo Jima: No, it was not raised by a group of Native Americans but the photo on which the statue is based was staged. There was a smaller flag raised by the soldiers who took the hill, but an imbedded photographer wanted a photo so they gathered a group to raise a bigger one. That group included Ira Hayes, a Native American from Arizona.
Correct, despite the audacity of the Doolittle raid, which took off from an aircraft carrier, the U.S. needed the islands for airfields -- and also to deny those airfields to the Japanese, who would've used them to continue attacking U.S. naval assets and supply convoys.
A key fact about the War in the Pacific that the video missed: when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, the US aircraft carriers were out to sea on training maneuvers. Thus, they were available several months later for the Battle of the Coral Sea and the Battle of Midway a month after that.
This was key as Midway stopped any further eastward movement towards the US mainland.
@Paul Pelosi that is incorrect. They were not on training missions. The USS Enterprise was ferrying 12 F4F-3's to Wake Island to VMF 211 and were returning to Pearl Harbor on the morning it was attacked being just west of Oahu. USS Lexington was ferrying 18 SB2U-3 Vindicators to VMSB 231on Midway Island and were 500 miles SE of Pearl when it was attacked. The USS Saratoga was on the West Coast in Bremerton undergoing an overhaul. USS Yorktown, Wasp, Ranger and Hornet were part of the Atlantic Fleet.
The chain of islands were used for ground based heavy bombers, refitting subs, and supplies. Also to prevent Japanese force from launching attacks in Australia. The second picture was taken because the first raising wasn’t caught on film. There was Native Americans in the first raising, but they couldn’t find all the guys who were there the first time. Some of them had died.
You know when you are a conspiracy guy when you state I'm not a conspiracy guy:)
My grandfather's where at Pearl respectivly one (mom's pop was in the Navy, dad's pop in the Army at Schofield Barracks) on that faithful day in Dec. nearly 80 years ago. Survived and fought the war with great resolve. Proud of my Grand Pap's
My family just discovered that my grandpas uncle died at Pearl Harbor. My grandfather had never been told that fact.
They did in fact bypass many islands. They even came up with a term for it, "Island Hopping"
"I'm not a conspiracy theorist guy" is a conspiracy theorist guy.
It's well known that we knew there was a potential attack coming towards pearl harbor. There's plenty of proof of it. You can't traverse halfway across the Pacific ocean with a huge fleet without anybody noticing.
@@willvr4 we didn’t know Japan was attacking Pearl Harbor all we knew was an attack was coming it was just arrogance they thought they wouldn’t go for Pearl Harbor that they would bypass it because they knew how much was stationed there and their navy was small and not as advanced as ours
For "Not being a conspiracy guy" he seems to believe in a lot of conspiracies
Especially since the commonwealth was already at war. the US could easily justify joining.
If they knew it would have have been an ambush like Midway.
Well there is still a big gap between him being finding them plausible and those that just believe them all. Would rather have somebody think of all scenarios rather than just one or two.
Knowing conspiracies and being fascinated by them isn't the same as believing in them.
@@Plague_Doc22 Not! The US never does anything for the UK. The US does things for itself.
You had to have islands for the supply chain. The ships and planes did not have the range that they have today.
Had to capture some of those islands. We needed the airfields.
Plus you dont want the enemy literally behind you if you skipped by those islands.
There were two photographs of the flag-raising in Iwo Jima. The first had a smaller flag. The second had a much larger one, and that one was staged. Also, only one Native American soldier helped raise it, Ira Hayes.
why not bypass the islands? because of logistics and air cover! let alone japanese airfields, that could attack your flanks.
Some of the Islands couldn't be 'bypassed' because either their ports were needed (and until late 44 often held significantly sized Japanese naval units) but also many were airbases. You don't leave the equivalent (or more ) of a carrier on your flank, plus those islands could also be repurposed for American air power. And even so we did bypass the vast majority of Islands but altogether there were still a few dozen or so that needed to be taken or otherwise neutralized. By the way, the largest (and last) Island we took - Okinawa - was technically part of Japan though not the mainland and was close enough and big enough that we needed it as a main base for our anticipated Invasion of Japan.
Lol Redhead is such a conspiracy nut it's wild.
But it's sad when someone puts out such blatantly false accusations. Sad in that it was said, and sad that it was due to ignorance of the actual facts.
Coming back to old videos and God Dave really is just an idiot isn't he?
There were people other than the Japanese on those islands and they were all being terrorized.
Back then saying "nuts" in US was akin to saying "F off!" now. My uncle fought in the Battle of the Bulge and earned 2 bronze stars and purple heart (wounded in battle). He came back in good shape and worked at the J&L steel mill in Aliquippa PA--big tough ol' guy--about 5'11'' 220lbs with forearms the size of your lower leg. Those mills, and others in the Ohio Valley, the Monongahela valley around Pittsburgh and mills in Gary Indiana, etc. were called then "the arsenal of Democracy" because the steel was used to create the tanks, planes, etc. in huge numbers for the war.
Don't forget Detroit -- the retooled auto factories were cranking out planes, tanks and jeeps at an amazing pace! The entire "rust belt" was kicking ass.
The first flag was small and the Marine commander wanted the flag. So, he sent a runner to the top to raise another, larger flag. By that time, the photographer, Joe Rosenthal, had made it to the top. He snapped a pic of the second flag. The Pima Native, Ira Hayes, was actually in the iconic picture.
America also was one of the smallest armies in the world at the start of WW2 it was just after pearl harbor we went from one of the smallest to one of the largest over several months
Ira Hayes was in that picture. He was American Indian. His story is sad.
He was a Pima Native American.
My Grandfather was one of the first men on the beaches of Iwo Jima. He said how they would describe what it was like running up the beach: "So many bullets where hitting everywhere around you that it looked like it was raining but you weren't getting wet"
They had to capture the islands in the pacific to set up bases of operations. So it then became easier to invade the main land which ended up not happening because the Bomb that was developed.
They thought the first flag was too small. Then they brought up a bigger flag and staged the second way bigger flag, but no one really noticed.The men who raised the first flag, according to the Marine Corps’ statement Wednesday, were Bradley, 1st Lt. Harold G. Schrier, Plt. Sgt. Ernest I. Thomas Jr., Sgt. Henry O. Hansen, Cpl. Charles W. Lindberg and Pvt. Philip L. Ward. You are talking about Ira Hayes who helped raised the second famous flag. Nobody was insecure that he was an Indian. He and the other two Marines, the only three that survived Iwo Jima, were put on War Bond Fundraising trip across the entire country to raise money for the war effort. They were famous in America, but Ira was having severe PTSD and became an sadly an alcoholic. His alcoholism got so bad that he was unable to continue the war bond drive. He just couldn't deal with being famous, while the other four Marines in the picture died on Iwo, which he was close friends with all four. It's a tragic story, but it's also tragic that the first Marines who put up the first flag we're not given any attention at all, but when they raised the first flag, as small as it was, got a great roar of cheers and ship horns from the Marines and Sailors who were in battle at the time. But the men from a 30-man patrol from Echo Company, 2nd Battalion, 28th Marine Regiment should also be remembered, because the put the first American flag up on Mt. Suribachi. Here's where the whole story. Just wanted to clarify what really happened at Iwo Jima. www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2016/08/24/there-were-two-flags-raised-at-iwo-jima-the-marine-corps-now-says-it-misidentified-men-at-both-of-them/
My grandfather was a WWII vet in the Pacific, he said not only did you have to deal with Japanese forces but major heat and storms. Ocean waves would toss the PT boats all over jumping from island to island in storms. He watched as all of his platoon mates were picked off one by one and always wondered how and why he survived. But yes, it was all about fortification and strategy. By clearing out those islands, it gave the US a better foothold and helped supply chains run more smoothly.
Why not bypass the islands? Almost all of them had airstrips, leaving them intact would have left American supply lines vulnerable. The US also wanted to use those airstrips to launch bombers against the Japanese home islands.
I think it's universally accepted that the US military didn't know there would be an attack on Pearl Harbor, but I think they probably were on high alert for Japanese aggression in general. The fact none of our carriers were actually at Pearl Harbor attests to our readiness but the sheer number of large ships available to bomb there also attests to a lack of knowledge of the attack beforehand. We suffered some very bad losses in that attack, just not a loss of carriers.
Tora! Tora! Tora! is a masterpiece of film that covers exactly how Pearl Harbor happened without Roosevelt deliberately looking the other way.
Sad he glossed over Midway so quickly. One of the most remarkable battles in the whole war.
Amazing !!! Todays kids have prolly never heard this most important moment in western history. The reason for island hopping in the south Pacific was supply chain ....the key to any war.
General MacArthur was a narcissist. When my grandfather returned to the US, MacArthur staged a photo op of himself walking down the ramp to the dock as thousands of soldiers who hadn’t touched US soil in years waited anxiously behind him
You mean like 90% of generals on the winning side of wars in history would have? I'm not saying he wasn't a narcissist but he's hardly the only one. Most leaders and generals are, if they lose then thay are fools, if they win they are heros
The *Pykrete* aircraft carrier was a real possibility they built a small demonstration ship which is now at the bottom of a cold Canadian lake they quit the research & building of a possible *Pykrete* aircraft carrier because by that time they'd overcome the U-Boat threat with better weapons Intel Etc.
It is a fascinating and impressive idea, basically making an artificial iceberg airbase in the Atlantic to close the gap in fighter cover. One of many crazy ones you get in wartime, just looking up the oddball test weapons and such from warfare over time is fun as they are often trying anything that looks like it might work (look up the batbombs of WW2 as well)
So then, why was it a dumb idea?
@@AnalyticalMenace it is not so much dumb as it proved proved unnecessary, longer range air cover, better convoy defense another big factor was being able to read the German naval codes with relative ease. There was just no need for it in the end.
To speak on what you said about it happening again, my 6th grade teacher always said, “history forgotten is doomed to repeat itself” this was when we had a holocaust survivor speak at our school. I think about it everyday
Island hopping was a McArthur idea. Nimitz wanted a more direct approach. Roosevelt settled on both. MacArthur wanted to take in the Japanese one block at a time to eliminate them. He was partially correct in doing so. The US had a difficult time cutting the supply line and it took time. That easily could have been Japan withdrawing troops back to the mainland for a massive all out battle. One that would have been more ferocious than any battle that took place. Meanwhile Nimitz engaged the imperial navy head on and made attacks on the mainland.
Marines raised the flag at Iowa Jima. The first photo taken was of the marines after they had taken the hill from the Japanese. After a politician informed the marine command that he wanted the raised flag so he could hang it on his wall the flag was lowered and given to the politician. Immediately afterward a second flag was raised in place of the old one which is the one that the famous flag raising photo is taken from. Among the men who raised the second flag was a marine by the name of Ira Hayes who was a Native American of the Pima tribe.
If your curious about the Iwo Jima flag planting they cover it in the film series The Pacific. It fantastic
I never understood why people question why experts do certain things. If ignoring the islands made the most sense ,they people who've dedicated their lives to the military wouöd've done it lol.
Strategic military bases and you don't want to get attacked from behind.
The US did go around a LOT of islands. Everyone forgets how VAST the Pacific Ocean is. It is roughly 3X as wide as the Atlantic. Everyone also forgets how short ranged all the ships were. Everyone also forgets that there was literally NOTHING in the Pacific in regards to infrastructure, so your maximum range is roughly ~30~40% of your fuel as you have to go TO an island and back on your tank of fuel.
So about the Pearl Harbor question, US intelligence was given warnings that something was going to happen eventually.
A few hours prior to the attack, radar stations did pick up a large mass of planes but they ignored it, thinking it was a early-morning training.
Incompetency is one thing, conspiracy is quite another..
Yeah the attack alone would’ve been enough for us to join. No need to not defend yourself as well. We clearly had no idea it was coming.
@@Jake_from_State_Farm Exactly. All they’d been told was “hey the talks with Japan aren’t going so smoothly so watch out.”
@@AtlasAccord well the Japanese were radio silent for like 24 hours leading up until the attack. They took a big risk that paid off initially
@@Jake_from_State_Farm the issue you bring up is why I always laughed at the conspiracy theory. Do people really think even if we were ready and the Japanese attack failed the US public would have been "nahh fam... we're good. We stopped the attack. Lets go about our business as usual".
we had an Italian camp in my city of Rochester, NY, and everyday Italian people would show up with food and clothes for the prisoners and sit outside the fence and chat, not one ever tried to escape, and many came back after the war to live
The blokes need to reacted to two movies about iwo Jima. Flags of our Fathers and letters from iwo Jima. They give both points of views and are great
They also said some misinformation about it, the picture wasn't staged and one of the americans were native, not all of them.
What ? No Sands of Iwo Jima ? LOL en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sands_of_Iwo_Jima
thing is Churchill actually did painting as a hobby to distract him from his depression
even if they knew pearl harbor was going to happen, that would still would have given the president no choice but to declare war. also the US only declared war on Japan and not Germany, it was Hitler that dragged the US into Europe by declaring war
Bypassing the islands was not an option because of distances. Remember, ships didn't have the ability to launch aircraft from the distance they do today. And the Japanese aircraft could reach the carriers from those islands when they got close enough to the Japanese mainland. The alies wanted to use the airfields too.
Should watch “the insane American plan to invade Japan in 1945” and “the Fallen of WWII”
Yeah the Americans didn’t stage the flag raising in fact three of the soldiers in that video were killed in combat in the following weeks
7:45 Discovered memos from Hitler’s economics minister revealed that Germany had about 5 months of strategic oil reserves that would sustain the German military in combat operations. Having almost zero oil reserves in Germany, their imports from Romania were insufficient so it was kind of a “do or die” gamble for Germany to capture the Russian oil fields in the caucuses. That’s why Germany, famed for its mechanization, still used horse-drawn supply carts throughout the war, and that’s why they opened a second front, because they probably didn’t have the oil reserves to try to conquer the British isles.
Just ran across your channel and I'm an instant fan! I'm a U.S. Southern woman who joined the Army at 18. I wanted to see the world and my station was in Frankfurt, GE. This was late 70,s early 80,s. I had a blast- jumped on trains and made so many trips across Europe. My grandmother was born in Dundee Scotland and our family still holds to the traditions passed down. I must say that the worst experience I had with another person was a British woman in London who heard me tell of my heritage, said, Oh, your one of those porridge eaters! Guess there must be prejudice against the Scots but she was an asshole and got away and continued to have a great time in London. Way off topic but I love you guys!
It would make no sense for the US military command to allow that attack on Pearl Harbor to happen just to enter the war. It would potentially have left them seriously weakened, in the middle of WW2. They couldn't have predicted that the Japanese attack wouldn't have been far more damaging. It would have been an insane gamble. The Japanese forces could have taken out everything and crippled the US almost completely.
Public opinion would have been changed either way, whether the US was taken by surprise or not. Just seeing Japan attack PH like that, even in a failed raid (which it wouldn't have been, they would have still managed to do a lot of damage) would have galvanized public opinion and the US would have entered the war either way.
There is no conspiracy there.
The flag thing was a smaller flag, the photo op that showed the soldiers putting the huge one up was for propaganda purposes. A tiny little 10 inch flag isn't very photogenic. Wasnt just about race.
Pearl Harbor wasn’t staged, Japan wanted to able to run free around the pacific and capture important islands without conflict
Especially with Europe involved in a major war...
@17:15 the Americans did bypass the biggest islands those big battles were on the tiniest “easiest” islands to attack. Guadalcanal was really the only one that was big but the US was forced to attack bc the Japanese were fortifying it into a base where they could effectively shutoff and isolate Australia from the US. Beyond Guadalcanal the US didn’t attack any of the Japanese main bases and just bypassed them ie. Rabaul.
Trivial tidbit: Some of the canned meat sent by the U.S. to the Soviets during WWII was still being eaten by some Soviet soldiers into the 1970s.
yeah, the oversimplified video really fails to convey the magnitude of america's industrial and agricultural contributions to britain, china, and the soviet union, including millions of tons of food and military equipment for millions of soldiers.
@@sirmoonslosthismind the Arsenal of freedom
@@sirmoonslosthismind что за бред...complete nonsense
Dave: "I'm not a conspiracy theorist."
Dave: "I think it was a conspiracy." haha
Yes, there are conspiracy theories that the Roosevelt administration knew about the Pearl Harbor attack and let it happen anyway but the evidence is weak at best. They knew an attack was coming but not when or where. They thought most likely the Philippines would be attacked. You have to put yourself in their shoes. At this point in the war most naval leaders don't think of the aircraft carrier as a first strike weapon. Even after the British success at Taranto, the battleship is still considered the main naval weapon. The idea that a large fleet of Japanese battleships sailing across the Pacific to attack Hawaii was considered a remote possibility. Did the US Military get warnings hours before the attack that something might be happening they most certainly did. Multiple ships sighted a submarine around the entrance to Pearl Harbor where no submarine should be. The US Ward attacked that sub and reported to higher ups who disregarded it. Radar picked up the Japanese planes coming in but because there was also a flight of B-17 bombers coming in that morning from the mainland this opportunity was also lost.
It is interesting that the attack on Pearl Harbor could be argued to have reshaped naval warfare significantly just by the fact that the US carriers were out to sea at the time. It forced the US navy to reorganize the ships it had in good shape around the carriers while they rebuilt the fleet. That set the pattern you see in the way naval power is organized when deployed in modern warfare, with electronic warfare and missile systems added in more recently.
There's also theories that Churchill knew of the attack beforehand, but wanted the US in the war, so he didn't tell Roosevelt.
Alan Turing - it's unfortunate how the Brits treated him after the war.
This was a great person.
Y'all need to react to the American Civil War.
I’m American and I can say that no the government didn’t know Japan was going to take them but that was clear signs that something was coming On radar they saw the planes but because the technology was so new they thought it was birds and didn’t warn anyone
The Iwo Jima flag really happened, but then was also re-staged--Only one native american--Ira Hayes.
As a Singaporean, the Japanese occupation and the fall of Singapore is still a hot topic in School.I remember one time during recess they only sold steamed tapioca and water as a way to remember the harsh and brutal way Singapore was treated under the Japanese rule and since I’m Chinese it only intensifies when I heard stories about the Japanese killing the Chinese ethnic groups there specifically it doesn’t matter if you’re half Chinese half Malay as long you had a single drop of Chinese blood in your veins they will come for you.
I have also heard of War heroes one that hits me home was a soldier known as Eter Foo, he had a front-and-centre seat to the Battle of Singapore, when he was deployed to the frontlines as part of the Medical Auxiliary Service (MAS). Despite the mismatch, due to their inadequate weapons and their subsequent defeat, Foo was one of the fortunate few who survived the battle with the Japanese. He survived the Sook Ching massacre which the Japanese killed many men and women and probably even children, thanks to his tall build and quick thinking, Foo managed to escape from the Japanese by hopping over a fence, but he didn’t elude them for long.
He was caught by the Japanese and interrogated luckily he was saved by his mother by bribing soldiers to release him, he learnt Japanese and was eventually approached by a resistance fighter during the Japanese occupation and worked as a spy.His espionage missions included collecting highly classified information, such as the models of Japanese fighter planes, and the numbers of deployed Japanese troops. Foo served as a spy until the Japanese surrendered in 1945.
A sad YT recommendation: Neil Halloran's "The Fallen of World War II."
A fun YT recommendation: Jack Rackam's "America's Manliest President - TheLife & Times of *Theodore* Roosevelt."
I was hoping someone would recommend "The Fallen of World War II"...it's astounding, breathtaking and so, so well done.
I've not seen the other recommendation, but Theodore Roosevelt is my favorite president, so I hope they do this one too!!
They did skip islands, but they needed the land for bases...the distanced were so great, we needed the ones we conquered.
Ginger War Strategy In The Pacific: I'm smarter than the American generals.
People: Um ... no.
17:13 The allies did skip one Japanese fortress, Rabaul. Instead of capturing it, they just isolated it and continued on.
19:00 The Iwo Jima photograph made famous in newspapers was the SECOND U.S. flag raised on Mount Suribachi. The first one was deemed "too small" and so it was ordered to take a bigger one up there and replace the first. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raising_the_Flag_on_Iwo_Jima
Japan's greatest strategic mistake was their attack on Pearl Harbor. The six Japanese carriers (Akagi, Kaga, Soriyu, Hiriyu, Shokaku, Zuikaku) would have been better used in supporting the initial southern island offensive, or in strikes supporting occupations of Wake and/or Midway, because there would be been a much different public reaction to Japanese forces attacking advanced military bases in the Philippines or some small islands in the middle of the ocean, compared to the main base at Pearl Harbor. The result would be a declaration of war with the American Pacific fleet sailing out of Hawaii to be sunk in the deep waters of the Pacific in the following year. At that point, the Japanese goal of a negotiated peace treaty while America turns against the fascists in Europe might have been possible.
But the attack on Pearl Harbor made it personal for the Americans, and it was all over for Japan from there.
If you haven't seen it yet, the documentary "World War 2 From Space" is incredible. Great videos guys, I really enjoy them! FYI, My grandfather was onboard his submarine the USS Tautog (SS 199) in port at Pearl Harbor when the bombs started dropping. He spent the entirety of WW2 scared shitless beneath enemy waters, hunting enemy ships and doing his part. As for the thought that Pearl was allowed to happen in order to drum up support for the war, I doubt there is any truth to that. Our intelligence services did expect an attack, but they had no idea when or where until it was too late. In point of fact, the Pacific fleet was moved from the west coast of the US to Pearl in anticipation of a conflict with Japan. Its true Americans were against joining the war, but they had just fought in WW1, and were barely coming out of the ashes of the great depression. Not a lot of enthusiasm for another costly war after those events.
Regarding the a-bombs:
First you have to remember, the high casualty rate at the time of the decision to drop the bombs. At that time the allies had lost 4 million soldiers in the Pacific theater. Japan 2,5 million, mainly against the Americans. And American planners projected an invasion of Japan would cost up to a million lives, soldiers and civilians. And on top of that Japan refused to surrender and stop the war, multiple times. Despite the heavy military losses, and American bombings of Japan. These were the main reasons for dropping the bombs. You can argue the use of the bombs to the end of days, but probably the bombs saved a lot of lives.
After the second bomb President Truman said: "The only language they seem to understand is the one we have been using to bombard them. When you have to deal with a beast you have to treat him like a beast. It is most regrettable but nevertheless true"
That quote seem to me, a bit too "brutal". But it kind of shows how the Americans saw them.
The statue and picture of the Iwo Jima flag-raising came from the second picture taken of that event. The only Native American in the initial group was Ira Hayes. The initial group was swapped out because the flag they used was too small. The second group (the one that everyone sees in pictures and the statues) used a much larger flag from one of the landing ships. Interestingly enough, both groups came from the same Marine Corps division but the individuals were changed out for reasons that I am unsure of. To put it simply, the first group's flag wasn't big enough for the publicity, so a second group was sent in with a bigger flag to recreate the raising of the flag.
My man in the wool cap, please be careful spreading conspiracies. The Iwo Jima remark and the Pearl Harbor theory have both been debunked. Clint Eastwood directed two films about Iwo Jima and WWII that touch on what you said. Flags of Our Fathers and Letters to Iwo Jima are the two films. Check em out.
@17:30 Great Question.
The answer is, those were the ones that were deemed strategic, many others were infact bypassed and hopped over due to logistics. Also land Bomber range.
Also, the famous picture of the US soldier kissing the girl on the street when coming home is kind of a funny story. That was not a couple. The soldier just grabbed a girl and kissed her in excitement. That's why she's gone limp in the photo. She has told the story publicly and said she did not appreciate it. Lol
didnt the soldier had a wife or gf?
The movie directed by Clint Eastwood "Flags on Our Fathers" it is explained why it happened it wasn't staged the men just were happy to have a victory and it was a message to the navy ships in the area it was now ok to land. Remember these were marines that landed on the islands first and a signal needed to be known since Japan was listening in on the communications. They changed to Navajo language since that was the only language not well known by European and Asian countries.💗🦋
downvoted for conspiracy theorys about pearl harbor. "they let their own guys die for the greater good". its clear that he never read anything on the topic. otherwise great reaction just like part 1. respect from germany.
This is way late but the Daniel Craig movie, Defiance, was based in the father and uncles of a friend of mine. He would answer the door and a random person would be crying and telling him how his father saved their life. I got to go to a private screening of the movie in Tampa. It was incredibly emotional.
The Ginger bloke was wrong in just about everything he said. I think you need to watch the Fallen of WWII, in it you will learn twice as many Americans died in the European Theater than the Pacific Theater.
You're just wrong.
@@jordanc3714, you are right, it wasn't twice as many Americans died in the European Theater than the Pacific Theater it was closer to three times as many Americans died in the European Theater than died in the Pacific Theater.
OK, first they were Marine (not soldiers) who raised the flag on Iwo Jima. Second, the famous photo wasn't "staged" but it did depict the raising of the second flag there. The first flag raised on Mt Suribachi was smaller. And lastly, one of the flag raisers was a Native American (Ira Hayes) who died tragically (from alcoholism) years after his return to the US. Three of the second flag raisers were killed later in the battle for Iwo Jima.
If you've never listened to anything by Sabaton - they're awesome. Sort of "I came for the heavy metal and got an awesome history lesson, too!" I don't even *like* heavy metal generally and I think they're awesome.
No native Americans in Iwo Jima flag raisings(there were two). The famous photo was legit, not staged. Three of the six marines died in the days of fighting afterward on the island...tough gig.
3 pissed guys watch a video
Basically.
No worries I was pissed when I watched it lol 🥃 🍻 p.s I'm drunk typin this hahahahh
Many in the US government didn't believe that the Japanese would actually fight the US. The Pearl Harbor attack wasn't even popular within the Japanese military. Yamamoto knew it was the only way for Japan to maintain any advances it had made. Resources just weren't there for them. Dan Carlin has a series of podcasts on the whole war in the Pacific called Super nova in the East. I recommend it.