Novation Supernova 2 Synthesizer in Hi-Fi

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  • Опубліковано 27 гру 2024

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  • @reginashakirova9605
    @reginashakirova9605 11 років тому +2

    I've got Nova desktop & SN2. They sound alike. But there is notable difference. SN2 sound more smooth/warm/rich on the same patches due to new DAC's & redesigned FX's section.

  • @shaft9000
    @shaft9000  13 років тому

    @bodgecat thanks. sure; it's 2 saw oscillators tuned very close within 2-3 cents, i believe the filter is set to 12dB lowpass; an LFO is affecting both pitch and filter, which is governed by the mod-wheel. An EG is affecting the filter and amp on each keypress for a soft attack.Finally some delay and reverb in the FX section to polish it off.

  • @anstonian
    @anstonian 15 років тому

    WOW !, The best Demo, of a synth, Iv'e ever seen. No over done, Dialouge. A complete, overview, of an Amazing, Synth. I'm sold, Iv'e got to get one. You know your stuff. It makes a nice change, not to hear, the familliar, Piano, or funk sound, like on the Juno Demo's, People want to hear, synth sounds. I had a Juno,.I sent it straight back. This synth, beats it, a million times. Well done, Thanks for posting. LOL .

  • @shaft9000
    @shaft9000  16 років тому +1

    when i say 'hi-fi' it means only relative to other UA-cam videos at the time I made it. compared to the original 24bit .WAV, this compressed Flash file that UA-cam uses is pretty wretched.
    Vimeo has way better sound, but it's like a ghosttown in comparison.

  • @christmaspresence
    @christmaspresence 12 років тому

    Great overview, been looking for another set of sick nasty knobs w/ serious tweakability to add to my set up w/ my prophet. I think i'll keep my eye out for one of these :)

  • @stlflyguy
    @stlflyguy 16 років тому

    That sawtooth lead seems very remniscent of the Minimoog in "Shine On You Crazy Diamond."
    Cool stuff!

  • @shaft9000
    @shaft9000  16 років тому +1

    'Pro' just means 36-voices vs. the 'regular' SN2 is 24-voice. There's also a 'Pro-X' w/ 48-voices. All are 8-part multi w/ full FX per part.

  • @toranamunter
    @toranamunter 17 років тому

    wow, cool V.H jump patch :-) still a fat sounding keyboard! I remember drooling after one of these when the first supernova came out. Beats the pants off most of the softsynth VA attempts!

  • @BarryWarne
    @BarryWarne 14 років тому

    Cool sounds and demonstration work. The Supernova keyboard can do a few things that the Supernova rack can't do - - interesting though. I am very happy with the rack version - - your video gives me ideas for adding extra controlability. Cheers

  • @shaft9000
    @shaft9000  17 років тому

    that's another sweet track! no, i haven't done much more of Ray Lynch's sequences/arps. I played a lot of Tangerine Dream-influenced patches and lines in this video.

  • @arbpotatoes
    @arbpotatoes 17 років тому

    whoooah how much? this is THE perfect synth!

  • @shaft9000
    @shaft9000  13 років тому

    @CoolColJ24
    good question - it has one of, if not THE best interface/UI ever in a polysynth, and does 8x parts independently. And unlike the VirusTI, the SN2 actually works correctly in mutli-timbral.
    otoh I feel the new Ultranova is an improvement soundwise and is not so bulky, but less user-friendly and not layer-able.

  • @shaft9000
    @shaft9000  17 років тому

    thanks!
    kinda strange why nobody has done this yet, i agree.

  • @shaft9000
    @shaft9000  14 років тому +1

    @maccagrabme
    Based on what criteria? i have a Juno-6, MKS70(JX10 in a rack) and Jupiter-8. As a VA very few others come as close to classic Roland as Supernova. Not Nord, Korg or Alesis. I wouldn't get rid of the Rolands for a SN2, but if you don't want old analogs then a SN is a decent choice.

  • @patrickytting
    @patrickytting 16 років тому

    That's effing wicked, and hay, ur playings not too shabby dude. Nice post, thanx.
    (I play a Roland D-50 and keystation pro-88 with ivory at the mo which I still haven't worked out how to properly get all the dials and faders working with but you know, give it a few weeks, months etc. Looking for a third synth for the rack and this could bloody well be it, long time pining for either this or a korg z-1 but I'm leaning towards the SNII after ur demo.) Cheers. P

  • @shaft9000
    @shaft9000  17 років тому

    also, you can program beats into the arpeggiator...which is really more like a step sequencer.

  • @shaft9000
    @shaft9000  16 років тому

    sure. you can record the audio directly in, or control it w/ a MIDI sequencer, or both if you like.

  • @CULTUREOFMUSIK
    @CULTUREOFMUSIK 16 років тому

    hey thnx for the better understanding of the different nova's. I just bought one its the the maxed 48 voice polyphony version. On its way. THNX AGAIN !
    stay easy. Cant believe i found it on ebay in mint condition(hoping).
    Hey when u get the time post some more vids,maybe with some drum patterns to go with it! Im gonna subscribe since know i got one, to see your next vids on this piece!You did justice on for the piece lol thats why i had to get one..!
    stay easy
    culture

  • @shaft9000
    @shaft9000  17 років тому

    Hello Jexus, nice of you to drop by

  • @delie32
    @delie32 14 років тому +1

    @DEJONEZ79 um, it sounds metallic, because this is an old 2007 video with very poor audio quality. In real life, and outside of UA-cam, it sounds much, much nicer.

  • @RiccardoPulvirenti
    @RiccardoPulvirenti 17 років тому

    great demo!

  • @djmattcarter
    @djmattcarter 15 років тому

    1:20 thought you were going to go into Clockwork Orange theme...sounds great!

  • @zetlike
    @zetlike 17 років тому

    Nicevideos shaft...im from Portugal and i got one sn2 too ...great machine!!!

  • @cicciodinonnapapera5
    @cicciodinonnapapera5 15 років тому

    thanks for your demo, very well do it

  • @noisevector
    @noisevector 14 років тому

    @nsa5015
    I bought the Supernova II Pro-X Platinum keyboard on ebay a week ago. There are some racks on it now and then also.

  • @Drakedragon1315
    @Drakedragon1315 17 років тому

    Great vid dude.

  • @shaft9000
    @shaft9000  15 років тому +1

    at some things: sounding a a little bit more like a Moog is one. high OSC FM rates are another. EG flexibility is maybe a bit better on Ion, but just barely.
    maybe you like the filters more, but to me they're just different - Ion has a bit more variety, while the SN has slightly better analog behaviors.

  • @gdekatt
    @gdekatt 15 років тому

    Very nice. I like it!

  • @Robbinsffxi
    @Robbinsffxi 16 років тому

    106 was an affordable synth from the 80's. Many people use it and its not too hard to get. but don't expect it to sound fat, it has 1 OSC with added chorus. If you get a Yamaha DX7 and the 106 you will definatly get the sounds of the 80s. Some mention that the juno 60 sounds a bit fatter then 106. If you got money, you could try get Prophet 5 or an Oberheim OB-Xa or OB-8. Some are mounted with midi.

  • @shaft9000
    @shaft9000  17 років тому

    the drums are very much like the novation drumstation, but with expanded sound-sculpting ability and wicked 'drummaps'.
    it will make synthetic piano sounds - not "realistic" but still musically nice.
    the organ sounds it can make are excellent, however, and can vary quite a bit. maybe in the next video i'll do some organ sounds.

  • @shaft9000
    @shaft9000  15 років тому

    you have an A6 already? I've had mine for 6 months now...freaking unbelievable. I sold my SN2 for cars repairs, and now I have a V-Synth instead - with A6 and MoogLP it is a phenomenal combo :D.
    the virus is nice, just not my thing.
    cheers!

  • @survyvrtype
    @survyvrtype 15 років тому

    Well done!

  • @shaft9000
    @shaft9000  15 років тому

    hi, thx for watching :D
    i made that patch from two simple saw oscs: one is straight pitch mod/detuned ~5% by sample%hold LFO, the other modulated by pulsewave at interval of major 5th

  • @shaft9000
    @shaft9000  15 років тому +2

    continued:
    imho SN beats the Ion in: 8-part multi-timbral w/ discrete outputs, polyphony (!), interface/ease/control, kick-ass arpeggiator, much better FX quality and flexibility, classic Roland JX/Juno emulation, and lastly all-around musicality.
    apples and oranges, really.
    i feel it's much better to use both for their respective strengths than to favor one to the exclusion of the other.

  • @ChrisPallas
    @ChrisPallas 17 років тому

    Amazing sounds and great commentary, laughed my ass off :D

  • @shaft9000
    @shaft9000  11 років тому

    nova i haven't, but it's supposed to be close, but iirc i think the nova uses only 2 DSP chips vs 8 in the SN2, whatever difference that makes. &fmt=18 used to enable stereo when default is mono. since fixed.

  • @vasupanicker
    @vasupanicker 15 років тому +1

    good sound

  • @SharedVision333
    @SharedVision333 15 років тому

    8:24-9:00 is fuckin lovely and the closing ambient is beautiful is it your own or is it a track someone else produced and you are demonstrating the supernova II through? Thanx for the vid Shaft ;)

  • @jasonmosler
    @jasonmosler 14 років тому +1

    I love my SN 2 pro X

  • @shaft9000
    @shaft9000  17 років тому

    haha, yeah it's the "inevitable Jump sound" you hear everywhere - EVERYBODY knows it and that itself is pretty amazing, enough of a compliment to poke a little fun at ;-)
    I love old VH btw and I remember how fresh that whole 1984 album sounded back in the day

  • @shaft9000
    @shaft9000  17 років тому

    I'll see what I can do about making another one :-)
    Thanks

  • @shaft9000
    @shaft9000  16 років тому

    thanks.
    yes, but i haven't recorded the whole thing yet.
    i'm working on (3) albums right now, so stay tuned :-)

  • @Jauly
    @Jauly 13 років тому

    @DEJONEZ79 good ear! the supernova sounds indeed a bit metallic, like a dx7... but very fat and interesting the same time :)

  • @bodgecat
    @bodgecat 13 років тому

    Hey there, great video. Some cool patches you've made there. I'm interested how you made your Mellow Sawtooth Lead at 5:19. Can you shed some light on that? Cheers!

  • @CULTUREOFMUSIK
    @CULTUREOFMUSIK 16 років тому

    i just no read your response so the novation supernova II is the most recent version of this series with an upgrade right?
    Keep posting vids. doing a great job !
    culture

  • @sacredgeometry
    @sacredgeometry 15 років тому

    hahaha i love the messsage that scrolls up through jump hahaha

  • @shaft9000
    @shaft9000  17 років тому

    thanks zetlike - have fun with it

  • @lisbonlion1967
    @lisbonlion1967 14 років тому

    Getting the ultranova soon..I'll miss my supernova though,produced some of my best stuff with it :-(

  • @HVYMETL
    @HVYMETL 17 років тому

    Radio Fodder? Hey, thats Van Halen! Thanks for the demo. Wish my Alesis could do that. Have you got 'celestial soda pop' programed?

  • @shaft9000
    @shaft9000  16 років тому

    thanks for the kind words Passion4Music, patrickytting,seambuster, coneman3 & ARP909.
    mouimen - i haven't played a KS4 but know a few guys that have one and like it very much. If you already have a good MIDI keyboard then you can get most of the Supernova's power by adding the desktop Nova.

  • @CULTUREOFMUSIK
    @CULTUREOFMUSIK 16 років тому

    THnx for the demo!!!!1great board !
    im using the roland G7 and the X station 49 and the ms2000B ive been looking at the you tube vids on the piece just stumbled on it.
    Question since i know nothing about this series of novation boards:
    Is there a difference between the Supernova II and the pro ? or when you talk about the pro your talking about the SUPERNOVA II ?(same board or pro is the upgrade of the supernova II im a little confused since i know nothing about this board.could you clarify

  • @maccagrabme
    @maccagrabme 14 років тому

    @shaft9000 Not at all, I'm simply comparing the sound to the Junos that I own and a Jx8p and I can tell you now that this synth doesn't have the warmth or fatness and I can actually hear that in UA-cam videos. If you think they are close then I'd love a video comparison as I might have to pickup one of these if I can get a Roland Jupiter and JX sound for little money. Cheers

  • @SharedVision333
    @SharedVision333 15 років тому

    Thanx Bro -___-
    I will be looking into getting one of this badboys this summer
    hopefully I can find one used... I am working for a Virus TI2 and the Alesis a6 and this would be a nice overlap yeah.. I am sending for a poly evolver today I found barely used and with the jmox 888 we will be UNSTOPPABLE Moohaahaaahaaahaaa....... Peace and thanx again for the inspiration~*~

  • @rotationevents
    @rotationevents 15 років тому

    thank you !!!!

  • @greenspoondcfc
    @greenspoondcfc 17 років тому

    cant wait to get mine, just purchased the rack version for £260 from ebay

  • @shaft9000
    @shaft9000  13 років тому

    @Scathedra i bought it on ebay around 5 yrs ago. i think it was about 1000USD.

  • @noisevector
    @noisevector 14 років тому

    @nsa5015
    There's a supernova II keyboard on ebay right now for 900 euro.

  • @theillestsnakes4776
    @theillestsnakes4776 2 місяці тому

    Still amazing in 2024.

  • @d3p3ch3mod3
    @d3p3ch3mod3 16 років тому

    Do you think NL2X is the best sounding? I really wanted one because it soudned amazing in the store but I went cheap and got a Nord Rack 2 ... Now I'm kinda wanting to sell it because it sounds better than anything else I have by far but I thought I remembered the 2X sounding even better, *exactly* like the sounds on some 80s records in terms of clarity and DAC resolution - & the FM had an incredible amoutn of nuance & details to it..

  • @DJ_MH_Remixes
    @DJ_MH_Remixes 14 років тому +2

    Novation Rules !

  • @djlaroccadavid5135
    @djlaroccadavid5135 8 років тому

    good demo

  • @CULTUREOFMUSIK
    @CULTUREOFMUSIK 16 років тому

    again before i buy this board im assuming the Supernova II is the pro am i right by saying this or the pro is a the upgrade of the supernova II. Just want to get the most advanced Supernova II. Your input will really help my purchase thnx again for the vid
    stay easy
    culture

  • @shaft9000
    @shaft9000  16 років тому

    start with two saw oscillators, detune one a bit, filter @ 12 dB Lowpass w/ some overdrive, EGs wide open, and add a little delay.
    how you play it makes as much difference as how it's programmed - be sure to double octaves on the bass notes.

  • @foamplane
    @foamplane 13 років тому +1

    "otoh I feel the new Ultranova is an improvement soundwise and is not so bulky,"..... Nope!! I own both of them and the ultranova is going up for sale soon. I hate the damned thing. Apart from the fact that it has some performance controls and few more wave shapes available (You can re-create most of them with skew and formant anyway) It's only a development of the SNII software. The same as the KS was. I have one of those too. BTW I bought my SNII as a result of watching your videos :-)

  • @Robbinsffxi
    @Robbinsffxi 16 років тому

    I own a Supernova II PRO X Keyboard. I've been using it for 7 years, I know the difference. I had a KS5 and I got a Nord wave to compare with.

  • @gobblesnoofers
    @gobblesnoofers 17 років тому

    i think this is the one i want, but how are the drum beats in it? and does it have a normal piano/organ effect?

  • @d3p3ch3mod3
    @d3p3ch3mod3 16 років тому

    Even if the audio in this video really is Hi-Fi there's still just no way to hear the resolution of a good synth through a PC... It's definitely true for the nord series

  • @shaft9000
    @shaft9000  16 років тому

    for the pre-CTA DM, you want a Jupiter-4, and nothing else will do.
    for DM from CTA thru BC, you need Emulator2, Drumulator, Minimoog & ARP2600. And a Synclavier :D
    after that... well, just call Flood I guess.

  • @CULTUREOFMUSIK
    @CULTUREOFMUSIK 16 років тому

    corrections on my last comments of my equipment.
    tascam dm 4800.Mv8800.MS2000B.padkontrol.roland G7. NOvation Xstation49 key. Mc909.

  • @shaft9000
    @shaft9000  17 років тому

    Your welcome!
    Not enough people take the time to actually let you hear what the gear actually sounds like. Instead it's usually 60 dB of hiss and not much else.

  • @CULTUREOFMUSIK
    @CULTUREOFMUSIK 16 років тому

    Does that mean its a different board or just a download from navations site.?(talking about the II version) im comparing on buying this vs the virus !..
    your vid is gearing me towards the SUpernova II..just want to be clear that the supernova II is the same board as the pro just with an upgrade from novation ...
    thnx easy
    Need to know before i make my purchase therese one on ebay a novation supernova II this is what your using right? can i upgrade to the pro or is it a different board
    Ct

  • @shaft9000
    @shaft9000  16 років тому

    congrats :D

  • @elektrovolt
    @elektrovolt 17 років тому

    good demo, tnx :)

  • @Scathedra
    @Scathedra 13 років тому

    Where did you buy this and how much? In all honesty I can't find it anywhere.

  • @Robbinsffxi
    @Robbinsffxi 16 років тому

    your search for a better sound will never stop as for most people. the 2x is better sounding because of the better AD/DA converters and renewed engine. but some say they like the old one better. its a matter of taste. I'm not sure if upgrading to 2x would be worth it, but I've never compared the two. You should get the sounds of the 80s from both, though a real analog synth would be better. Analog is more expencive. Nord Lead and Nord wave series is close enaugh in my opinion.

  • @d3p3ch3mod3
    @d3p3ch3mod3 16 років тому

    hmm do you think i should just get a Juno 106?

  • @julipamp
    @julipamp 16 років тому

    nice demo and great sounds putting supernova through its paces. Van halen better on obxa Not sure video adds much though, best viewed on the radio!
    thanks for putting it on

  • @greenspoondcfc
    @greenspoondcfc 17 років тому

    ah turned out it was the supernova 1 not supernova 2, still sound the same tho but with less knobs

  • @shaft9000
    @shaft9000  17 років тому

    wow, that's a great price, mate!

  • @shaft9000
    @shaft9000  17 років тому

    you're welcome, elektrovolt :)

  • @shaft9000
    @shaft9000  17 років тому

    If all you do is sequence it and use presets, then yes, you are right that it would be a waste o' cash.
    However, for custom patch creation , and playing by hand (duh) the rack is a lot slower and somewhat uninspiring.
    I don't like external editors, either.
    Although the guts are the same, the SN2 keyboard behaves like a whole different animal.

  • @sacredgeometry
    @sacredgeometry 15 років тому

    this sounds more analogue but i still prefere the nord and access VAs although this does some classic sounds
    beautiful video btw
    peace
    brian

  • @maccagrabme
    @maccagrabme 14 років тому

    @buzzboxed Yep, thats what I'm talking about, warmth. I think the vsti's are capable of the sounds of the Nova so I'll stick to that and a Juno or JX.

  • @hafstrat
    @hafstrat 16 років тому

    kin ell !!!

  • @shaft9000
    @shaft9000  15 років тому

    you're welcome :D

  • @shaft9000
    @shaft9000  17 років тому

    I have made a second SN2 video, just click the "shaft9000" link up top on the right side of this page, then click the golden picture.

  • @shaft9000
    @shaft9000  16 років тому

    ms2000 is a great little board. if u program it right it can sound like a $million$ :D
    As for 'pro' or not, it's just the # of voices, that's it.

  • @shaft9000
    @shaft9000  17 років тому

    I got mine for 1100 USD on E-Bay 2 yrs ago. Don't bother with the rack version, the keyboard is entirely where it's at imo

  • @Robbinsffxi
    @Robbinsffxi 16 років тому

    Somehow K-station sounds better.
    And KS synths got trouble with clicking.
    I would pick a nord lead 2x instead.

  • @shaft9000
    @shaft9000  17 років тому

    you should be able to find one in very good or better condition for about $1000 USD

  • @buzzboxed
    @buzzboxed 14 років тому

    @maccagrabme
    hi i own a HS-60(JUNO 106S) and a novation nova when we talk about synthesis a JUNO is so limited compared to NOVA ....JUNO sounds really fat though..... you can get a nova in ebay for 300 euros maybe cheaper....there is n HS-60 on ebay right now for 800$...

  • @Jauly
    @Jauly 13 років тому

    5:56 THIEF :D

  • @maccagrabme
    @maccagrabme 14 років тому

    @shaft9000 I hear none of the warmth thats why you still have the Rolands.

  • @hotrodking
    @hotrodking 14 років тому

    hey dont hate on Van Halen! they are still a great band! haha

  • @PsychePoppet
    @PsychePoppet 13 років тому +1

    I have an A-station I bought for $200. I have a $2500 DotCom. Tweak them just so and they sound just like my ION. Or a Casio pt-1. All of which sound like crap on UA-cam. And if you're recording, I'm pretty sure your going to bounce down to CD rates at some point.
    You can go Ford vs GM vs Chevy vs Honda all day on this stuff. Its just a waste of time. In the end both techs have their merits. Novations were some of the best virtual analogs made. Not sure about the new ones.

  • @HVYMETL
    @HVYMETL 17 років тому

    Tiny geometries.....that's what I meant to ask, not 'soda pop.

  • @shaft9000
    @shaft9000  14 років тому

    @maccagrabme
    you're implying mpeg compression can accurately convey warmth. spoken like a real troll. if you have nothing constructive to back up what you say, then don't bother.
    one more snyde reply and you get blocked. regards.

  • @WARDISWARD
    @WARDISWARD 17 років тому

    Yeah Its a shame that novation nowadays only makes crappy midicontrollers (with some analogue modeling )
    Seems like the supernova was the last big thing from novation ..

  • @maccagrabme
    @maccagrabme 14 років тому

    @shaft9000 Nothing like a Juno or JX here

  • @martin7475
    @martin7475 17 років тому

    yeh i think 350 pounds is about 700 dollars