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I appreciate that you dont feel the need to convict everyone. I didnt like how he played, and i still think theres a reasonable chance he was cheating. But there was nothing here that looked like evidence bayond a reasonable doubt. He was a bit inconsistent and maybe a bit too lucky, but i wouldnt say thats enough.
Absolute nonsense. He was blatantly cheating and if you think otherwise then I can easily call you a moron. This is exactly why there will always be a ton of cheaters and the game will never get healthier... Absolutely pathetic.
Your reasoning is bayond this world! Thanks mate
"nothing here that looked like evidence beyond a reasonable doubt" so let me guess, for you, cheating = spinbotting and 180 no scope headshots? you realize that 90% of cheaters are hiding it, right? not everying is going to be obvious. that's why the game is dying, no one wants to admit how bad the cheating problem really is.
@@logprb5048 Either you are misunderstanding what I'm talking about or the two of us have _VERY_ different proof standards. This guy was weird enough that I might have reported him while playing. But in this video we are essentially doing an overwatch case. And in order to convict someone there, you have to be 100% certain that they are indeed cheating. If you are not, then it's not evidence beyond a reasonable doubt.
They player here never locked on anyone. He never seemed to actively watch people through walls. At most he got lucky a bit too much. But that is simply not enough. There is nothing here that constitutes concrete proof of him cheating.
You are saying that me not immediately jumping to conclusions is bad because I don't want to face the truth of all the cheater. However we can very well turn this around. You seem to be one of the people that cry cheater every time they get killed through a smoke and get timeinged. How is that any better. Sometimes you just have to chill out and give someone the benefit of the doubt.
I've seen this a ton in-game, with people crying about half the enemy team cheating, when in reality they just suck ass and are being outplayed.
Lul expert wannabe but when it’s ur turn to face a cheater ur the first to cry and type “ez”/“?” When being boosted by a cheater yikes…
As somebody that played csgo for 4k+ hours (LE/12k) and never had a knife, I don't think inspecting your default knife means anything 😅 it's something that I do constantly
xD
i mean yeah inspecting ur knife is something normal but pulling it and inspecting it while ur apps meanwhile CT can reach apps faster then you is smthn out of mind
you ever heard of a skin/knife changer?
@@Lospinguinosmelavanamascarr I don't doubt that at all! But that's separate to what I'm suggesting.
What you're saying is there is a time and place where normal players pull out there knifes or guns. It then becomes obvious who is cheating, with WH, when they pull out their knife in usual places and when in the round.
I'm just saying that inspecting it because of skin changers is not as often as Neok makes it to be ':) I should've made that more clear
@@n0steeze It's my bad for not initially making it more clear that I was actually referring to skin/knife changers. I was saying that people inspecting their default knifes don't always mean they're probably using a changer. Like me. And that it's not as often as he may think it is ':)
The cheating part of them is ur average enemy, and the terrible part of them is ur teammates
You need to give your editor a raise these videos always slap
he be getting more than the biggest csgo editors out there 💀 more raises and im going broke
@@neokCSI want you
@@callmewhenever Bruh
you dont even know how much hes paying him
yeah for the average tiktok 11 year old they do indeed slap
Nah with almost 1k hours you should be clearing corners with your gun. The fact that he didnt clear things only when people werent there is evidence enough
yeah this, he never checked a single corner, always runs in a room with his back to all threats or his knife out unless there's an enemy holding it, then he perfectly holds that angle, such an obvious waller
@@countervolition Yeah, I'm calling that 100%.
Most cheaters are trying to hide it. It's as much about the totality as the individual moments. Is the guy lining up headshot on the guy peeking from T apps sus? yeah, but that's also where you'd put it for good crosshair placement and making a good peek. Everyone can tell the guy blatantly ragehacking, but if someone somehow ends up with like, 90% headshots, probably using an aim assist. If someone never peeks with gun out but still does well, never gets punished? Almost certainly a cheater.
But is running down into Terrorist controlled territory with knife out, peeking uncleared angles with no info with knife out, and basically only remembering he needs his gun out when an enemy is there to be shot how a legit player plays? No. It's definitely not 13k standard.
i'll take a bet that all he had was a radar hack. He "knew" where the enemies where but not with exact precision, that's why he knew where and when to look but had average reaction times.
remind me of those radar hack that you need to access a website to use, it updated every 3s or so, he could tab out to see the enemy location then tab back in
this makes the most sense actually, I didn't think of Radar or ESP. It explains how he knew where people were generally, but not exactly.
@@leeminh2401 now they update ever 0.1ms
Maybe , sometimes we get ultra lucky games , just start to watch your own demons and you will see a lot of stuff.
@@Donni_10 LMAO
Feels like he is really careful to not get cought but still walling sometimes. Maybe he toggle wh on/off to get general info yet not to be tempted for obvious pre-aim. It will explain his weird game sense with all the knives in ap's
I do this stuff with the knive as well. I often run into enemies with my knive out, because i am fking stupid. I dont really thinks he cheats. Maybe he cheats, cant be 100% sure about that. He did some sus stuff ngl.
guy was getting info from his buddy about enemys 100%
I absolutely love these cheater videos, I always look forward to seeing the new ones. Fave CS series I think, it's brilliant! Infuriating in game, but funny to watch back :D
Just load in a game, then you can have it all day
@@TizzaOG trust me, I can confirm 😆
@@Mintikasp ye ^^
Neok im following you since a long time and the quality of your content has improved a lot!
Hats off to your editor and team!
this guy was wasnt cheating he had good gaming chair, and he was reading the game, and he was standing afk cuz he was eating or texting someone, explained by me.
Could be a smurf cheating too.
Seen this sometimes.............
@GardenofEdens nah other team wasn't taking apps like at all and he knew it was free territory and just didn't give a fuck at all. He was steam rolling them.
@@alexbrown4426 I understand your point but I said could be .
And you never know , he is surly smurfing and his enemy were to sure they would win.
They got disappointed after getting steam rolled.
Smurfing in itself is gay its can be really unfair but man I understand you need a surf to steam roll sometimes.
I don't try to sweat and have fun then you don't need a smurf.
MM gives and takes.
He isn't smurfing, what are y'all on about. He got TERRIBLE movement and crosshair placement. I don't wanna know how ur crosshair placements look like if u think he's smurfing haha
yeah my friend if zou do belive that hfor a mg he is to confident with 1k hours on the account its probably not his main.
I play with no problem in 11k solo q .
There are moments he is directl peeking if youz do belive that he is trash bro get steam rolled b him too.
YOu dont know if this guy is smurfing and only trolling.
You dont know if the cheating ......
You dont even know if this is a girl or a boy but the changing like neok said 2 guys 1 pc is trash.
I do understand your point but bro it cant be that he with 5k fucked the 11k guys ALONE.
If he is not smurfing he should have played like the rest of the team.@@guitarsolos89
Lmao the XqC burger clip killed me, and awarded you my sub.
I have a bad habit of inspecting my default knife in game, but I also use to have a Huntsman for like a year so my dumb muscle memory goes straight for the inspect when I bring my knife out
As most hack clients come with skin changers, inspecting his knife a lot COULD be probable suspicion of a skin changer. They both use the same modification to CS's files. (This does not mean im 100% blaming them its just another pointer to look out for.)
Honestly I like inspecting my knife (no skin) just to mess with people lol
baiting his teammate because he didnt want to look obvious peaking the guy apps is obvious proof that hes cheating
ive chickened out of pushing apts a lot as a T.
He was probably cheating, but it's not evident beyond reasonable doubt
This is a 5k ELO team. Saying someone is cheating because they baited their teammate once is the same as saying they are all cheating. Like literally every single one.
Agree
he is a careless player he didnt bait beforehand and usually just runs out with his knife out unless he knows someone is there (walls)@@kachelstacktus
Love these videos, great editing too
God I love these videos so much. May the editor and yourself be gifted with thousands of skins.
5:42 and then he 'realizes' 😂😂😂😂
that was blatant
i was about to write that same comment - very bad detective here
yes cod4 was awesome! 4 & 5 were so great!
Love this content, keep it up
this guy is literally me when I am playing drunk with my friends and the bullets just go the right way
I also have a secret position on the Inferno called "Smoking room", I go there when I need to smoke my IQOS
I can stay AFK there telling jokes for the whole round
this, I play at a decent level 30% of the time when drunk, and then I just try to rng headshot thru walls, make huge assumptions on where they are, etc. Inconclusive.
Where's the smoking room at though ?
@@coooolduude on the enterance to abs when you T, and whole B site when you CT
i think some suicidal pushes are reasonable when you are up 8-3. but also some strange peaks
Like he didnt move out of apps to balcony.
Pre aimed corners only when someone was there?
Dont tell me audio, cause he was with a knife out in apps with no info.
Also he didnt rotate to b and pre aimed a guy sneaking into library
on the one hand if you are much better than your teammates, going for a solo suicide push has a better chance of winning the round than relying on your teammates in any way.
on the other hand cheaters often int a couple non important rounds to make themselves less sus, or toggle off, and then go on when there is an important round.
The intro is always the enemy team before pistol round when I play on my solo q account (it has like 80 hours. Made it while CSGO still existed for a new FACEIT account because I wanted to experience a fresh start but didn't realize I needed a phone number) Also played a dude yesterday on dust2 who would peek a corner aiming directly at you, if you said anything he did the classic act stupid: ? ? etc. Then he started trying to explain himself. "I had a guy cat so I was looking long" *literally in a 1v1*
Fair judgement but i think when you said he was "baiting his team" in aps, he was probably trying to let them get kills so that his high kill score (31/8 compared to his team of 11 at most) wasn't obvious. Probs closet cheater whos smarter than ur average cheater, albeit a low bar to clear.
Yeah the running away long after fragging that one dude.
Buddy didn't even shot straight turn around...
This cheater was as dumb as they come. literally average cheater, not smarter and not dumber.
One thing I might wanna add is that plays like "molly the bomb" can be called out, especially when there are like 3 dead teammates spectating you.
The quality of the cs2 demos is insane!! :O
the funny thing is this how i play whenever I decide to get my week rank up drop lol
I still edge to your videos Neok.
I havent watched neok in years, I forgot how good his videos are
Never discredit the possibility of a new player just doing random things, and it working out.
About the inspection of the defoult knife i like it too
He was pretty obviously cheating. The apps play on both sides confirmed it and as for his "good play" of mollying the bomb and running away this was likely a suggestion from one of his teammates but even if it wasn't it isn't exactly ground breaking big brain play that you have to be skilled to pull off.
All you need to do to find cheaters is compare what they do when nobody is around vs what they do when enemies are near, when enemies were not near he would take out his knife and stare at walls, when enemies were near he would hold angles and prefire.
I agree with you but His gameplay was so weard that if you have to take a professional look at it you cant say 100% that he is cheating so i think neoks Reaktion ist understandable
Dust 2 the long push.....
he wasnt "obviously cheating", if demos were actually good we'd have more info on callouts and sounds on a 1:1 scale with in-game. I can at least without a doubt in my mind say 9/10 of the times where he "wallhacked" the enemy was making loads of noise. (jumping mid, running around corners, etc).
Sure some of his movement and decisions were fucking weird, but he's in low elo. If i started premiere right now, id probably not take it seriously until I reach 10k minimum (csgo peaked supreme - avg LE, but I cba with the current state of the game).
This guy is definitely not that high level though, so probs 14-16k area on his main, but Im giving it a 8/2 ratio of him just smurfing and chilling vs him cheating.
But im not saying he wasnt, its also possible he got calls from someone who WAS. cs2's cheater problem is rampant, until vac is replaced Im afraid we'll never trust the game. But I strongly disagree its "obviously cheating" that is the correct assessment here.
"All you need to do to find cheaters is compare what they do when nobody is around vs what they do when enemies are near"... Thank you!
@@Skyflairl2p Nothing you're saying makes sense to why he would always stand and look into the wall with knife out when there where nobody close. Everytime someone approached to a corner he would take his gun out and pre-fire. Putting those two factors together makes it like the OP says, pretty obvious. Take a look at 3:26 and tell me that isn't wallhacking again, he even highers his crosshair as the guy is climbing up. But he's so bad that he can't even kill him.
You really need to re-think your statements that he's 16k main and is smurfing, the guy has absolutely horrible movemen/ crosshair placement. Movement/crosshair placement is correlated to your other skills in the game such as game-sense/map knowledge. Which is also a factor in to why he's cheating. Mindblowing that you believe the guy in the demo is smurfing, he's probably around low gold nova with old CS:GO measurement. Notice how he never has his crosshair to their headlevel? He's ALWAYS aiming in their lower stomach, which is a big red flag that he's clueless and not smurfing...
I feel like he has a keybind that updates his map, and I think he frequently looks at the map that he just looks at empty spaces. I mean that's what people constantly do when doing something outside of csgo or looking at the map. But mostly he plays without the map and plays with his own skill. He doesn't want to cheat as much but at the same time he feels anxious to know the enemy's position. It's just a small theory though
8:52 What if there is 2 people playing on the same computer. When it's the big brothers turn he turns off the wall hacks and when it's little brothers turn he turns on the wall hacks so the little brother can play better.
I’ve been waiting for only ONLY a week and i feel waiting a whole month 😂
there is one hack that make a beep sound when the enemy is close, and it tells the location and how close they are to the enemy, it is made for streamers and pro players
Damn bro actually listened 😂 I'll keep reminding you to drip vids on IG. 😂
0:36 - 0:41 This part oml your change of expression 😂😂
1:12 been playing games on steam from the maritimes for years and not once have i seen an account from prince edward island
inspecting def knife is normal thing to me cuz i dont have karambit and it feels guud. and the deagle rare inspect is good wuth the knife
Sometimes you are thinking way to much from your own way of playing. Like clearing all the angles, sometimes people are just that bad, that they just run straight to kill the Guy they heard across the smoke
But he was cheating anyway
I would lean either wallhacks or radar but it’s not conclusive enough to say for sure
What website are you using to see that trust factor? I can't seem to find it
did u figure it out?
Faceit finder
Faceit Finder
Inspecting the knife triggers the wallhack
where do you check their stats, could you please share the link to the website?
Sometimes i pull knife to quick check if there is someone with awp or shotgun, could be what he is doing. Also looked alot like it was people switching places.
the afk thing makes me wonder how sussy me and my friends look on demos, half the time we play godfield at the same time so have to go afk before our turn timers run out lmao
I think I'd say he was playing 'casually', which I sometimes just mess around like this in CS (Not really a long-time player), but sometimes makes 'good' plays with a good reaction time. Corner checking and going backwards is one thing. But you necessarily don't except to check corners, if you play in low elo, because the enemy team didn't seem to utilize them in the first place, so you would presume that they are not going to do that.
I think that hard clear on long that he turns watching the wall is enought tho,
as someone with a child who loves to watch and pitch in when im playing cs i can understand the afk part lol.
i have a demo of a guy completellly rage hacking and the enemies toggle i bet it would be a fun watch
I always inspect the default knife 🔪
props to the editor i can tell he put a lot of effort
looks very obvious to me,especially that part when the guy was holding the angle at 7:35 and he turned back unlike previous rounds when he just ran out without a care
10:54 what tool/website is this
faceitfinder
dude they way he peeked that guy after going backwards with his k
Could be that either a teammate has radar and tells him every time he dies himself or maybe new variant of the spectator bug. But not enough to really convict him on that as there is not enough proof.
I do also use the default knife (since I don't own a knife), and inspect it a lot. I do inspect almost all of the possible things I can inspect, with or without skins. It's not about the skin, more of the animation. Boring to see the same animation on a default knife when pulling it out, and spamming F instantly when I pull the knife out.
Ngl. I do be appreciating my default knife.
Neok I have a defaul knife, constantly take it out and F. Just habit, and on my other accounts I do it a lot while running to show how confident I am where they are.
best vid i have ever seen
What website are you using to show the enemy team's CS2 stats and banned friends like that? I'd love to be able to do that in my games :)
i also want to know
faceitfinder
Faceit finder
called faceitfinder
did u figure it out?
Blud takes his time to put the right memes in the edit
Had a really bad cheater experience on both my team and the enemy team today and it made me really think on whether or not I can keep playing this damn game. Makes me so sad. Thanks for the content regardless neok ❤
Hes playing by feel nya
it sucks sometimes but if it isn't beyond a reasonable doubt... you just can't
No way he gets away with this much timings looks kinda sus
that random spectate moment x)
i do that with the knife to.....i dont kow why but i do. just press f when i take it out
Inspecting standard knife is big brain
I have the habit of inspecting default knife because I usually played on community servers in cs:go
how do you get demos? i trieed last time they disabled rewatch demos download
Nice use of Kronos Unveiled!
Michael Giacchino has never failed to deliver a thrilling, mysterious adventure all in the form of splendid orchestra!
The editor is godtier, never seen anything like this :D
That kiddo was a pro player bro💀
I can feel him to 100% i so often dont have my hand on my mouse at start cause iam smoking at the start of the round always
tbh that looks like me playing, the only difference is that i play casual and i dont inspect my knife AND i cant play/run cs2
He could toggle his walls by equipping knife, and it turns off when he's using a gun.
Have you ever considered that they have a killswitch on the cheat so that they see through the walls only during the beginning of the round and once they get to their defaulted position they just turn them off and play accordingly?
The editor needs a damn raise lol 😂
With my +7k hours 2300 Elo level 10 global and 22k Elo Premier and B+ Intermediate player this dude is walling his ass off but is a decent player
How is that decent? He has the aim and the spray of a level 4. There is nothing that can make us believe he is decent. Decent for what? for level 4?
as a 2300 elo player that guy is bad at the game
If you really looked yes dude is walling but patient and that comes from some experience new players that hack and do this i can bet this dude was an okay MID TIER player and then started cheating cause he was bored he did mess some sprays up but overall he IS BY FAR ONE OF THE BETTER CHEATERS WE HAVE SEEN SKILL WISE. Dunno if you noticed but he was jiggle peeking a lot of angles what cheaters are silver jiggle? @@kirinom-3129
@@kirinom-3129 screw you dude, I am lvl4 and I have WAY much better aim and util usage. He's silver5 at most.
So....how tough is this game gonna be to get good at for someone who basically never played CSGO/2 before but player a fuckton of other FPS games? Game looks fun as fuck but...very very difficult.
what website does he use to check players? anyone?
im inspecting my deafult knife all the time idk why i just do it
7:26 :D King of edit :D im cry :D
I am getting these dudes in my FACEIT games lol
i love u tactical kurt cobain
what is the name of that troll song = poye poye poye poye, plays at bad movement or failed b hops
how do you check the trust factor? and how many friend are banned
blinker check everyone
Shiiiish Neok. These often default knife inspections with this drip music isn`t wasting my time. It gives happiness
where do you check the trust factor thingie?
bro im always inspecting my default knife :P
omg brilliant conclusion, i bet he has radarhack.
Where do you see that profile stats? Link pls ♥
Inspecting default skins a lot can be a hint to a skinchanger which comes (who would've guessed) often with other "assistants"
I think he is just decent at hiding walls. Not checking angles, and pulling his knife out in situations that were unwise. If he was queuing with the guys on his team that is enough evidence for me to convict him. The amount of banned friends they had was too high for it to be coincidence. Those guys like playing with cheaters.
its kinda hard these days to add anyone you play with because, even before cs2, like half the community or more is cheating, so i stopped adding people. they just kept dragging down my trust factor.
10:56 what website is used for the research
I stop like that all the time. But I am actually typing in chat about how nobody questions authority.
Where do you check the info about his teammates ?
His friend gave him info when his mate died. Like when people play casual mm
I've had this conversation with my buddy, it has to be "beyond a reasonable doubt". I might not like it, but if I'm doing Overwatch, I gotta be objective.
Sometimes I go back and I watch my own games where I find someone is sus - 9/10 it's just a combination of luck/skill or just my team doing dumb shit XD