All the John Wick series are so intriguing, so nerve wracking, breathe stlopper and fearfully fascinating! But one thing is good about it, when you are about to fall off your seats, tell yourself its only a movie to entertain you. Its only a story of one man against the world. So back to comfortable watchong!
The Elder sent John on a path to change the table. He knew he would never kill Winston, thats why he asked him to do it. Knowing John will rebel and fight the system and powers that be.
It used to be called "The Table", then they thought they could kill John Wick, now they're called "The High Table" Update: Just watched John Wick 4. Crap!
No betrayal from Winston. He gives Wick a head nod to move over to the ledge just before shooting him. It's quick, but look carefully. Also, if he wanted to kill Wick he wouldn't have shot him in the body of the suit which he knew was bulletproof. Thanos said it best.... Should've went for the head
Not only that but when she said they couldn't find John's body, Winston said it wasnt his problem meaning he wasnt concerned and knew they wouldn't find him. He also refers to him as Johnathan lol. You're not killing a guy youre close to when you refer to him as his full name
Best way to take down the High Table is having one of the worlds greatest assassins presumed to be dead. John and Winston are both playing the High Table right underneath their noses.
I don't think Winston betrayed Wick, if he had.. he would have issued a headshot. He knew John could survive anything else. He shot him where his Kevlar suit would take most of the impact.
the movies that continue this conquer and be number 1 surely has a toxic effect. i just do not want people to mimic this kind of behavior in real life but monkey see monkey do.
I like how these assassins treat each other as friends or co-workers even though there's a chance they might need to kill each other because of their job, but one thing that they must always remember is that death is nothing personal. There are 2 kinds of assassins under the high table, those who kill because it's their job and those who kill because they want to earn their freedom so they can stop killing.
But winston shot wick purposely on the torso because Wick was wearing bullet proof suit. So by him falling, it made it seem as if he was dead. It was Winston's way of saving Wick and keeping the hotel all at the same time.
It's believed Winston is John's Father-in-law so that's a other reason for no head shot and when they were talking before the judicator appeared they made their plan to takedown the high table and essentially take over the entire organization themselves
Not just that, but it also buys more time to properly plan ahead. Just my theory but I also feel like the lives Wick spared, will also join him in taking down the high table.
The theory that Winston spared wick on purpose seems to be confirmed by the new chapter 4 trailers that show Winston and wick talking to each other seemingly after the “betrayal”
I didn't like that the actor though good didn't look old enough to be THE guy the top guy. Didn't Winston say he had the Continental for like 30yrs? Elder didn't look a day over 40-45, unless they'll say he inherited it after his father or mother passed like Santino sister did he doesn't seem old enough to be a founding member.
@@alexanderthegreat5649 the leadership of historical hashashin always inherited from master to student, so there's a chance that high table adopted that practice
It wasn't a betrayal on Winston's part. I'm pretty sure he knew that John Wick had a bullet proof suit, apparent from the sparks on his suit when he was being shot. I'd like to assume that Winston kept that final bit from John Wick to make it seem like he had the upper hand in cleaning up what the Adjudicator couldn't clean up, or Zero's assassins. That's just me though.
I agree. From 1929-1941 you had murder inc. An underground organized network of contract killers founded by lansky and Siegal. Just imagine that on a global scale.
Why Winston shot him in the chest when he already knew that John just been wearing a bullet proof vest. I mean in their business at least this is very common. And in the end Winston said his assistant to reweapon as soon as possible. I think Winston, the Bowery king and John work together against the high table.
My theory was Winston cherished his friendship with John so much that he shot him to help him get "out" out - no markers, no contracts and no longer beholden to the high table if the adjudicator thought him dead on the street. However the video theory of Winston being the actual power hungry villain was very convincing.
Bullshit! Mr. John fell *205 feet* off the roof ........! (Remember: you can die from falling just 10 feet!) Winston did NOT expect Mr. John to survive!
@@1sam-ef Firstly, they had to make it look real and convincing for the adjudicator so falling from 10ft isn’t gonna cut it. Secondly, he’s Mr Wick remember, a bullet and a 205 ft fall isn’t going to kill him.
@@monishdey3705 John is known to show mercy from time to time. He offers a choice, by inflicting a wound that is enough to incapacitate, but never kill. Case in point the train scene.
Winston and bowry king joined hands. That's why he shot wick , now he's dead, the Bounty's off now. Everyone is pretty much fed up with the high table, and they are choosing wick to finish it , once and for all.
Would be interesting if the High Table is actually occupied by the Knights Templars who survived the massacre. The organization was already wealthy, well trained in combat/military matters, had ties to the Church, and had connections around most of the Middle East and Europe. The spread of Christianity to Africa and Asia would only allow them to expand, and tbe rest of the world therein. Additionally, they founded the banking foundations still used today, so it wouldn't be far fetched for them to be able to start a Continental-likr infrastructure as a means of safe harbor and currency transference.
So my thing is, if a marker is called in to kill a member of the high table, wouldn't that be the ONE instance where refusal to carry out the request would be acceptable? It'd probably be much easier to fight the D'antonio fam than the whole high table... They ask why he refused the marker just say "hey the ask was to kill Gianna"... Maybe I'm overthinking it?
The issue was not who was asked to be killed, but where. Gianna was outside of "neutral ground", her brother, who claimed her chair at the table was within that territory, therefore John broke the rules there.
@@soaringeag1392 No I know that, I'm saying he should have been able to refuse the marker to kill Gianna (as the current member of the table) without repercussion... There was no marker for him to kill Santino, he broke rules and did that on his own. I have no issue with the consequences for that. 2 completely different scenarios.
@@hoagsmash4188 the issue is where he kills them, he didn't want to kill Gianna, but he did want vengeance for her. Mercs like John are hired to balance the factions and in some cases "settle" in-house disputes. He killed Santino in an area that the High Table has seen as an area where no harm to to come to it's occupants. Theoretically, John could have waited to off Santino outside of those grounds, without the High Table caring. That family might put a bounty on him, but not ex communicato.
@@hoagsmash4188 There were only 3 possibilities 1) Which happened in movie, Wick does what he supposed to and kills Gianna and could have killed Santino outside the hotel 2) Even if he had refused the marker, he still breaks the old traditions if santino had decided to call that out instead of burning his house and proving to work for him 3) If he had killed Santino when the marker was still with santino as you are mentioning, it still would break the old tradition and high table would still put bounty on him!
@@wzero07 im of the same opinion here. but john's reaction at the end of the movie begs to differ. i still hope it wont be about killing winston in 4 tho.
@@Ryuujiish 4 is where Winston, Bowery King and wick unite against the High Table. The stage is set for that to happen and thats what the Wikipedia also says.
The first leader of the assassins groupe ( which was created around 1100 century in the mountain of Alamut in North Iran was called the old of the mountain( his name was : HASSAN IBN SABAH). He belong to a Chiit groupe called ISMAELITE. - His groupe in the middle east was called Hachachyin ( Hachich in Arabic means = WEED), they said that the killers were smoking weed in order to get a level of spirituality before committing a crime.... - When crusaders comme to the middle east they heard about them and by deformation of the word HACHACHIYIN they called them ‘’ASSASSINS’’ - The assassins spread to north Africa and Spain ( under the Fatimides who had the gouvernances of the islam empire from india to north africa, including Sicilia and some area of spain). - when muslims were pushed out from Spain, they come back to north Africa ( Algeria and Morocco)==> this may explain why the man in the Desert was powerful ( he may be the descendant of the assassin secte).
Apart from plot armor,Wick has got the ultimate respect from this shadowy organization,so no wonder his enemies like to show him some decencies before they tried to kill him
Winston knew the suit was bulletproof. He did not try to kill his friend John Wick. Look at how Winston was firing his weapon. Aiming at the jacket. Avoiding openings to John's body.
You saw that too?!? At one of the many rewatchings, I finally caught on and replayed that whole scene about 2-3 times to make sure I saw where the bullets were being fired and he clearly fired directly into the left side of the jacket, where the protective lining is, instead of between the opening of the jacket/center mass.
What I don't get is that everyone knows Wick as a deadly instrument, but don't somehow piece together that it's not (at least I don't think it is) in his nature to seek out the killing of Gianna unless someone points him in her direction. He even tells Cassian that it was her brother who sent him and he still goes after Wick. Sure, Cassian and Gianna seemed to have a relationship of some sort, but it's still unreasonable to skip over the fact that Wick isn't a decision maker and wouldn't kill a member of the High Table without provocation.
Well Winston should have known too because of the marker but John killing her brother avenged her too in a way as well as John himself for his home being burned down and his being forced back into the life he had just left as Winston said. He's back but not fully he's not obeying the rules exactly he just seems to have nothing else to do now with his wife gone so it's more force of habit perhaps.
Yeah in the context of the movie I don’t understand how someone should have known that John wasn’t just gonna come after her out of the blue. Cassian should have known that too given the history between them.
@@razor3535 Cassian I get it, especially in light of his apparent feelings for Gianna. But the rest of the assassin world is acting like John was acting on his own, even though Winston is aware that it was a marker from Santino. If, in this world, Santino can take out a contract on a member of the High Table, and then put a contract on the person who carried out that contract, then the whole world would fall apart. Assassins would have less incentive to take contracts if it means the same person can take you out too.
@@banana403 yap,the biggest problem i had with the fact that no one did a thing to go after Santino even after learning he basically ordered the murder carried by Wick,everybody just went for him fully,no penalties for santino what so ever
I see it as the old guy pushed wick out of harms way to a fellow ally under the table. Thereby helping wick make more friends and supporters that the high table could not touch easily. In john wick 4, wick will see the wisdom in what Winston did to him for certain.
@@6998zico Disrespectful though to mess someone face as respected as Wick. You don't go blowing a guy's face off. Your enemies yes. Not John Wick. Notice John Wick stabbed that guy in the chest on the bus and let him live. Respect.
If the High Table is runs by families, I think Winston might be John’s dad. I mean, dude has done so much for John Wick to survive. To me, that’s either what a really really great friend would do to another great friend or that’s what a father would do to his son.
Or an uncle. Some form of family member which would explain why he refers to him as Johnathan. Even willam defoes characters seems rather close and protective
Crime organiziations are often referred to as "families" - they even often refer to themselves as such. It's not necessarily a mark of relationship, but more one of trust and loyalty. A crime family is not necessarily a real family. They emulate such basic human relationships because of two reasons: 1) Crime is a lonely job. You don't go home as a crimeboss or a John Wick-level assassin and have a normal life and a normal family. High-profile crime is not a dayjob. 2) It infers loyalty. The high table is not run by families - it's run by crime families. Some of these people may actually be related, but this is not the Habsburgs.
It would not surprise me to learn that the network was the off-shoot of the first crusaders when they met the Hashashine who were the first group of assassins and with the power and money backing the crusades... formed an alliance to keep the peace as best as they can through archaic and ultimately analog means. The Knights Templar invented rudamentary forms of banking given they had to keep track of so much of it... and when they became too powerful through monetary means... were ultimately declared heretics by the church. So with their down-fall they fled to the darkness with their money and their assassins. That is where the Elder, one designated, born into or chosen by all the groups comes in.. they are the balance. They keep the rest in check and are exiled to the desert as both a safety mechanism and a penance for having such power. Because the only reason they would uphold such a thing, in such a situation is because they believe in the organization and it's ethics and not for some modern comforts.
The High Table had to know that Wick had to honor the marker held by Santino D'Antonio, and Wick killed the sister. Why didn't the High Table have Santino D'Antonio killed for having one of it's members assassinated?
@@ethanweeter2732 correcting you: they cant kill one of their own, UNLESS one of their own don't abide by the rules. Remember that in High Table there are rules and ANYONE who don't respect them, must be punished.
I think there are two reasons to this, the first being that a marker has to be honored and that John Wick was the one who killed her. Technically D’Atntonio didn’t kill her and he also played it off as if it was John Wicks own goal. The other reason being that D’Antonio wasn’t a target due to a marker, John killed him because he was forced to kill some his sister. This was all planned so that wick can take the blame for everything. D’Antonio even made sure to be in the continental for when John would kill him so that John could be excommunicated. He even instigated John to kill him when he was shot, knowing full well that John would kill him regardless
"The origins of their formation is unknown but it is described as larger and older than any governments on Earth indicated that the foundation of the High Table can be traced back to ancient time, they are said to be as old as the Aztecs." -The John Wicki
Charon, in Greek mythology, the son of Erebus and Nyx (Night), whose duty it was to ferry over the Rivers Styx and Acheron those souls of the deceased who had received the rites of burial. In payment he received the coin that was placed in the mouth of the corpse. Does this sound similar? Mythical Charon controlled the underworld of the dead where as concierge Charon controls the criminal under world
I'm pretty sure he knows the Elder well, so the absolution he grants may indeed have a hidden purpose (or more). After all, John could only bet on chaotic odds!
If I had to guess what perfume the characters are wearing here is my choice: The Elder, Amouage Interlude Gianna, Carolina Herrera Very Good Girl Santino, Salvatore Ferragamo pour homme Jonh Wick, Diesel Only the Brave Bowery King, Tom Ford Tobacco Oud Adjudicator, Dolce&Gabbana Velvet Black Patchouli Winston, Creed Aventus
And Winston, Cassian ( if he is still alive, The two martial artists that John wick gave mercy, Bowery king will all assist in destroying the high table
The whole criminal syndicates around the world will have no something higher to control them anymore, see? This is why you didn't want to kill random someone's dog and stole his car
When Winston was with her looking at the body, he should have had a few of his men toss her into that furnace and when asked what became of her, he would just shrug and walk away.
I love that the creatives behind John Wick are also about to reboot the Highlander universe. World building like this with Immortals will be sooo AWESOME
I love the John Wick franchise. But considering we are already up to 4 and there are still so many mysteries, I’m guessing this movie series will end rather open ended with a lot of unanswered questions.
Chad Stahelski the director of John Wick movies did say that he is going to do one more sequel after John Wick 4 and that will be the ending of the series.
@@ForsakenAngel11 that’s cool. The mystique of the franchise is what makes it so cool. They don’t need to over explain or do a prequel “young John Wick on how he got started” crap that every other franchise does after they run out of ideas from dragging a movie series out too long. I just hope they leave it all alone after the final movie.
@@Bringthewinter We already have most of Young John Wick. It's the original Bill & Ted movies. John Wick is what you get after Ted is sent to Military School.
@@rothery2 it’s weird that I never watched those movies considering I’m from that time. But it would be cool if Alex Winter who played Bill was the final bad guy/ultimate villain in the last John Wick movie. As far as I know, he hasn’t made a cameo. And he’s still alive, so why not.
We have two more John Wick movies coming up as well as two spin-off. A spin-off Ballerina movie and a prequel focused on Winston and the Continental Hotel. So I think by the end things will mostly be fleshed out.
What rule did Lawrence Fishburne break exactly? He gave a gun to John, how the hell would he know he was going to use it to kill someone on Continental ground.
The fact that he assisted John Wick with a gun (kimble). Even though he told the adjudicator that he has the right to not accept the contract but the point is that it was Lawrence who assisted John in getting to Santino D'antonio by offering him a gun with 7 rounds included
One thing I never liked about the whole plot is that the table has the resources to meticulously identify every single person who helped John, most of them due to also owing him favors via that blood pledge thingy, yet aren't able to ascertain WHY John is in the position he's in to begin with, i.e. he was ordered to kill a member of one of the seat holders. Don't they have any regulations against that? even from people pledged to do so by their blood pact? Aside from the the Elder I can't imagine a position higher than having a seat on the table. I understand that this would make it so that the events of the films don't really need to happen and that a lot of it is also tied to John executing Santino on hotel grounds, but there seems to be nothing in the high table regulations for exemptions on when one of their own is murdered through a blood pact, which makes their entire social rule system pretty bonkers to begin with IMO because i don't think it was ever specified to what degree John is being pursued in the third film due to killing on sacred grounds or killing a member of the high table; i know its both but it would help to know which one carries higher priority because then the previous point I made about Santino ordering the execution of his sister would carry proportionate weight and possibly be able to offset the rule about killing on sacred grounds?
I never understood either why Gianna didn't just rose to her designated position after promising protection for John and turn the tide against her sucker of a brother :|
@@shadowmystery5613 Very good point! If there is anybody capable of over-ruling the social rules, it should probably be a member of the high table and/or The Elder. This is IMHO a huge plot hole in a movie which has made it a point to emphasize that the gold coins they use in their social order represent symbolism more so than currency. Hence, if their order puts more emphasis on social symbolism than currency, using a social blood pact to order a member of the high table or the ability to override such an order via a high table member should carry even more importance because the absence of such a failsafe would make the entire structure extraordinarily fragile and prone to instant collapse!
@@Steenkin Ye, it would've done the table actually good if Gianna would've taken the seat and got rid of her brother. Because when I compare the two from the few moments I saw Gianna I think she's a woman that's responsible and who's willing to do necessary stuff without going overboard where as her brother is just a psychopath threatening the entire table with his greed for power.
My impression of the blood markers (through Santino's "impossible" task of having his own sister, seated at the high table, killed and through John and Sophia's dialogue) is that no matter how outlandish the favor asked is, you are indebted, and if refused, the person that you gave the blood marker to has the right to kill you, which is why they made the markers seem like very weighted and rare things to have with someone else. My guess is that some of the people in this underground world have some pretty rule-breaking favors needed, so while the High Table doesnt excuse them, the person requesting the blood favor might ask for something outside the rules. Santino's actions raised a lot of questions for me as well, because as soon as John completes his favor and Santino stamps his blood everything should be even, but he breaks this by pretending it wasnt him who ordered the hit on Gianna and puts a bounty on Wicks head. Many "legal" questions there but to me it seemed the main reason that the High Table was coming for John vs. Santino was that he did a very good job of covering up the motives behind the hit and since Wick killed him, emphasized by the fact that it was on Continental grounds, Wick would be the person of focus for any wrongdoing. The whole John Wick universe is fascinating but yeah there are some major plot points that could be developed in more detail.
I think they dont care that John killed the lady. It’s just that one of the members of the high elite (the brother) wanted him dead. So being part owner of the table, the brother set his goons on John. The problem I think was when he broke Continental rules. Recall in the first movie, when the lady killed in the Continental, she was hunted down by the higher ups. If John killed off grounds, like he did with the sister, the next person in line would take over. He or she could be like, “nah John, u good” then no bounty on his head. No contract. No reason to kill John. Life goes on as normal. But instead, he kills on Continental grounds which is the grievous sin. The fact that it was a Table member, well that probably got the other table members antsy and wanted John gone because there’s nothing stopping this guy. Which would also explain why the Elder was all super chill in John’s presence. He was like, yeah i can reverse the bounty and give you sanctuary again. No biggie. Because the issues that were plaguing John were those things, not the fact that the high table member was dead.
I think it's a mistake to assume there is only one adjudicator, the job would be impossible for one person worldwide. And Wick is not hunted to keep Santino's involvement in his sister's murder a secret. Winston demands to log the completion of the mission by Wick in the marker log book
Well in the second film they say sort of who makes up some of the high table. The Camorra, Ndrangheta, Sicilians (Cosa Nostra), Russian mob (Viggo and family), Chinese (Triads probably). So them then I’m sure Yakuza and Jewish mob probably have other seats with maybe another middle eastern family, then I’m sure Colombians or a different South American or Central American cartel have another. I hope they expand on the others. Maybe the Bowery King has a seat too.
They call him the elder, so he's totally the elder from the mountains. The current inheritor of the moniker from Hassasn-i-sabbah, and leader of the Nizari Assassins.
Winston knows that there is sniper pointing at them that's why he betrayed Mr. Wick to let him escape... Why would the adjudicator be chillin up there if the Baba yaga is coming for the high table...hahaha
Help me out…if John already knew he would not kill Winston…why bother going overseas to bargain with the High Table I’m also mystified that he makes a pledge to The Table, buts off his finger…in order to be allowed to return to NYC with the “blessing of High Table”? But when he returns to NYC his is immediately met by Zero and hit hitmen. Why weren’t they called off?? Why bother cutting off your finger if they are allowing the hit men to still come at you?? What am I missing? Thanks Right now I’m convince its a big plot hole or just an excuse to get Wick to an exotic location before going back to NYC. Thanks for any insights!
I really want to know the origins... How this all came together! Especially the library/human resources (lol) pierced and tattooed people using Commodore 64s to enter the information 😬😅
@@LordtwigPI well, you can have a modern OS (like Linux) unconnected (yank the Lan/wireless hardware out) and still perform the same tasks, probably faster and without fear of obsolete parts... So I think it's more of a stylistic choice, but I still want to know about those people and how they are recruited, etc etc.
The Elder being living in a desert in Morocco is a throw back hint to the real Assassins order (Hashashine) lived during the end of Abbasi Caliphate and just prior to mongols invasion which ended them. They used to live in a fort on top of a hill in northern Persia and Syria.
I'm still wondering about the other members of the high table, as far as I remember only Camorra and Ndrangheta were revealed to us. But I believe there are other crime family ruling as one of the high table. I'm also wondering about who is the highest authority from the continental, is it the elder??
I dont understand the quote that Winston gets to keep his power "Under the table" ? Does that mean that the High table doesn't know he's still in power?
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Great casting for the Adjudicator, I’ve never wanted a character to be killed so much. The smugness she walks around with...
Yes in Billions she’s Taylor Mason Carbon
I’m guessing you don’t know who cerci is from GOT lol 😂
@@natechave2825 i agree about Cersei haha damn that woman.
*They, not she
She would probably be the first to die in the fourth film
The world and mythology of the John Wick universe is just so damn intriguing. So good.
All the John Wick series are so intriguing, so nerve wracking, breathe stlopper and fearfully fascinating! But one thing is good about it, when you are about to fall off your seats, tell yourself its only a movie to entertain you. Its only a story of one man against the world. So back to comfortable watchong!
John wick doesn’t have a mythology, that’s what makes it an amazing expanded universe, it’s more of a world building story
My favorite of this franchise is the first one and second not chronological order
@@ildanobleza9295 the John Wick Universe reminds me of the Hitman universe.
The John wick universe is just mediaeval period with better weponery
The Elder sent John on a path to change the table. He knew he would never kill Winston, thats why he asked him to do it. Knowing John will rebel and fight the system and powers that be.
4 months and 3 likes. I think this man has a good theory, I'll go with that.
True. He wanted the Table to pay or be put in check maybe.
yes.. and the elder will return johns finger by dhl and make him complete again
I agree. I think he wants to send a message.
but he is above table..this does not make sense to me.
I couldn't even imagine how high The High Table were when they decided to kill John Wick.
I see what you did there 😂
Hooka.
Like Illuminaties freemasons in this world
stoned stupid
They're still high.
It used to be called "The Table", then they thought they could kill John Wick, now they're called "The High Table"
Update: Just watched John Wick 4. Crap!
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thats good
I hereby say that you are in fact, wrong @klaus The vampire
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hahaha thats pretty funny
No betrayal from Winston. He gives Wick a head nod to move over to the ledge just before shooting him. It's quick, but look carefully. Also, if he wanted to kill Wick he wouldn't have shot him in the body of the suit which he knew was bulletproof. Thanos said it best.... Should've went for the head
Yes you are correct
I agree
Not only that but when she said they couldn't find John's body, Winston said it wasnt his problem meaning he wasnt concerned and knew they wouldn't find him. He also refers to him as Johnathan lol. You're not killing a guy youre close to when you refer to him as his full name
Wow i just watched that scene again and you are right, thank you for the heads up
Best way to take down the High Table is having one of the worlds greatest assassins presumed to be dead.
John and Winston are both playing the High Table right underneath their noses.
I don't think Winston betrayed Wick, if he had.. he would have issued a headshot. He knew John could survive anything else. He shot him where his Kevlar suit would take most of the impact.
Most definitely
why all this betraying, people might mimic this behavior.
That may be case but he’s going after Winston . He’s probley going after that bitch first .
the movies that continue this conquer and be number 1 surely has a toxic effect. i just do not want people to mimic this kind of behavior in real life but monkey see monkey do.
@@jenamirgholi6004 that's highly doubtful
Title: The untold truth......
Video: *summarized version of John Wick 1 to 3*
Thank you!! I was looking for this exact comment, cheers my Brother in Logic.
Thanks for the heads-up!...👍
I want know when john wicks comes out
I thought they had some dvd exclusive commentary LOL
thanks, wont bother watching now
I like how these assassins treat each other as friends or co-workers even though there's a chance they might need to kill each other because of their job, but one thing that they must always remember is that death is nothing personal. There are 2 kinds of assassins under the high table, those who kill because it's their job and those who kill because they want to earn their freedom so they can stop killing.
None of them do the latter only John wick did that
@@Toeso_Loso um yeah ok
But winston shot wick purposely on the torso because Wick was wearing bullet proof suit. So by him falling, it made it seem as if he was dead. It was Winston's way of saving Wick and keeping the hotel all at the same time.
Exactly
It's believed Winston is John's Father-in-law so that's a other reason for no head shot and when they were talking before the judicator appeared they made their plan to takedown the high table and essentially take over the entire organization themselves
Not just that, but it also buys more time to properly plan ahead. Just my theory but I also feel like the lives Wick spared, will also join him in taking down the high table.
The theory that Winston spared wick on purpose seems to be confirmed by the new chapter 4 trailers that show Winston and wick talking to each other seemingly after the “betrayal”
The biggest chess player is Winston he's moving john around like a pawn.
More like a Knight.
That wasn’t really any untold truth.
You just summarised the movie
Don't break it's will and confidence. He spent a few hours just for this movie for you to dunk him this one lol.
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i think this guy just like hearing his own voice
Played this clip and left with the same information I had before.
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I’m down to watch as many John wicks as they make
Me too! Me Damn too!
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nah. I need a strong stopping point. We don't want it to get as ridiculous as the fast and furious franchise
@@Spartan11117777 John Wick: Revelation.
@@ethanweeter2732 John Wick 10: The End of the Beginning
What if The Elder is a descendant of one of the high ranking members of the Hashshashin
Hell yes!
You understand.
That's the orgin of the high table. At least what most who put it together, since they started in same region and they are paid assassins.
I didn't like that the actor though good didn't look old enough to be THE guy the top guy. Didn't Winston say he had the Continental for like 30yrs? Elder didn't look a day over 40-45, unless they'll say he inherited it after his father or mother passed like Santino sister did he doesn't seem old enough to be a founding member.
@@alexanderthegreat5649 the leadership of historical hashashin always inherited from master to student, so there's a chance that high table adopted that practice
It wasn't a betrayal on Winston's part. I'm pretty sure he knew that John Wick had a bullet proof suit, apparent from the sparks on his suit when he was being shot. I'd like to assume that Winston kept that final bit from John Wick to make it seem like he had the upper hand in cleaning up what the Adjudicator couldn't clean up, or Zero's assassins.
That's just me though.
Plot twist: everything in John Wick is real
Edit in 2021: OMG thanks for all the support
Can't be. In the first movie, he's pumping his on gas... In New Jersey.
Of course it is. Who do you think the Clintons higher to get rid of people that have dirt on them?
It’s meant to be based off real life
I agree. From 1929-1941 you had murder inc. An underground organized network of contract killers founded by lansky and Siegal. Just imagine that on a global scale.
it was..
Why Winston shot him in the chest when he already knew that John just been wearing a bullet proof vest. I mean in their business at least this is very common. And in the end Winston said his assistant to reweapon as soon as possible. I think Winston, the Bowery king and John work together against the high table.
Yeah we will see in chapter 4
Of course Winston shot him there on purpose, it was a set up so the Adjudicator would think John has been killed.
My theory was Winston cherished his friendship with John so much that he shot him to help him get "out" out - no markers, no contracts and no longer beholden to the high table if the adjudicator thought him dead on the street. However the video theory of Winston being the actual power hungry villain was very convincing.
Bullshit! Mr. John fell *205 feet* off the roof ........! (Remember: you can die from falling just 10 feet!) Winston did NOT expect Mr. John to survive!
@@1sam-ef Firstly, they had to make it look real and convincing for the adjudicator so falling from 10ft isn’t gonna cut it. Secondly, he’s Mr Wick remember, a bullet and a 205 ft fall isn’t going to kill him.
Aurelio : Well Sir, he stole John Wick's car and killed his dog.
Viggo : (very big) Ohh
looking forward to some nastiness happening to the adjudicator in the next installment
She's just doing her job.
@@gerome022 Her program.
@@gerome022 so was every guard John has ever killed
@@gerome022 in these kind of jobs you either kill or get killed. period. john is alive and will come for her ass.
@@monishdey3705 John is known to show mercy from time to time. He offers a choice, by inflicting a wound that is enough to incapacitate, but never kill. Case in point the train scene.
Winston and bowry king joined hands.
That's why he shot wick , now he's dead, the Bounty's off now.
Everyone is pretty much fed up with the high table, and they are choosing wick to finish it , once and for all.
Ya there was a screen shot of both of them meeting, I wonder if that scene will be in the 4th movie.
@@DaScorpionSting really? When?
@@luciousbattlecat2618 When they were making the movie there was a screenshot posted on both of them meeting face to face.
Would be interesting if the High Table is actually occupied by the Knights Templars who survived the massacre. The organization was already wealthy, well trained in combat/military matters, had ties to the Church, and had connections around most of the Middle East and Europe. The spread of Christianity to Africa and Asia would only allow them to expand, and tbe rest of the world therein. Additionally, they founded the banking foundations still used today, so it wouldn't be far fetched for them to be able to start a Continental-likr infrastructure as a means of safe harbor and currency transference.
They are probably the Sicarii.
Yes you know most movies have real life inspiration.
But we got a Muslim from middle east as the Elder lol 😂👊🏼
Maybe, real world organized crime syndicates have been mentioned.
@@shahidalikhan8619 also the Order of Assassins was an actual thing
And all the high table and all of it's men couldn't make John Wick serve them again.
Well have him serve them for life, no more retirement.
is that a reference to the egg and wall poem
😂😂😂
@@Arekkizu eggactly
@@Arekkizu Humpty Dumpty
I learnt lot of things from John Wick. I don't just watch the movie. The movie portrays so many things in our everyday life.
Like what?
@@zyn6513 refuses to elaborate further and leaves
@@zyn6513 Like killing a man's dog has deadly consequences. I think
So my thing is, if a marker is called in to kill a member of the high table, wouldn't that be the ONE instance where refusal to carry out the request would be acceptable? It'd probably be much easier to fight the D'antonio fam than the whole high table... They ask why he refused the marker just say "hey the ask was to kill Gianna"... Maybe I'm overthinking it?
The issue was not who was asked to be killed, but where. Gianna was outside of "neutral ground", her brother, who claimed her chair at the table was within that territory, therefore John broke the rules there.
@@soaringeag1392 No I know that, I'm saying he should have been able to refuse the marker to kill Gianna (as the current member of the table) without repercussion... There was no marker for him to kill Santino, he broke rules and did that on his own. I have no issue with the consequences for that. 2 completely different scenarios.
@@hoagsmash4188 the issue is where he kills them, he didn't want to kill Gianna, but he did want vengeance for her. Mercs like John are hired to balance the factions and in some cases "settle" in-house disputes. He killed Santino in an area that the High Table has seen as an area where no harm to to come to it's occupants. Theoretically, John could have waited to off Santino outside of those grounds, without the High Table caring. That family might put a bounty on him, but not ex communicato.
@@hoagsmash4188 There were only 3 possibilities 1) Which happened in movie, Wick does what he supposed to and kills Gianna and could have killed Santino outside the hotel 2) Even if he had refused the marker, he still breaks the old traditions if santino had decided to call that out instead of burning his house and proving to work for him 3) If he had killed Santino when the marker was still with santino as you are mentioning, it still would break the old tradition and high table would still put bounty on him!
Imagine disregarding the request of the elder to be backstabbed by the person you were supposed to kill
@@wzero07 im of the same opinion here.
but john's reaction at the end of the movie begs to differ.
i still hope it wont be about killing winston in 4 tho.
John wicks Suit is Bulletproof,,!! Just saved him
can we please live in a world where there is no such thing as backstabbing and social competition.
@@jenamirgholi6004 … 🚀 Mars ☄️
@@Ryuujiish 4 is where Winston, Bowery King and wick unite against the High Table. The stage is set for that to happen and thats what the Wikipedia also says.
where the f is the "untold truth" we dont know yet?
ikr
I think a bigger issue here is if John Wick is in the Assassin's Creed universe. The "markers" have The Assassin emblem on the back
I was looking if someone else noticed this as well.....they also make john cut off his ring finger, much like the pre-Altair Assassins had to do.
@@rubaiislam4556 Riiiight? 😏
The first leader of the assassins groupe ( which was created around 1100 century in the mountain of Alamut in North Iran was called the old of the mountain( his name was : HASSAN IBN SABAH). He belong to a Chiit groupe called ISMAELITE.
- His groupe in the middle east was called Hachachyin ( Hachich in Arabic means = WEED), they said that the killers were smoking weed in order to get a level of spirituality before committing a crime....
- When crusaders comme to the middle east they heard about them and by deformation of the word HACHACHIYIN they called them ‘’ASSASSINS’’
- The assassins spread to north Africa and Spain ( under the Fatimides who had the gouvernances of the islam empire from india to north africa, including Sicilia and some area of spain).
- when muslims were pushed out from Spain, they come back to north Africa ( Algeria and Morocco)==> this may explain why the man in the Desert was powerful ( he may be the descendant of the assassin secte).
@@DZ1Explorer there's a book about it called "Alamut" by Vladimir Bartoli.......
@@rubaiislam4556 : yes, it talks about the places were assassins were hiding
Apart from plot armor,Wick has got the ultimate respect from this shadowy organization,so no wonder his enemies like to show him some decencies before they tried to kill him
I don't think John ever considered killing Winston. John survived because of the "tactical" lining of his suit.
For some reason I'm absolutely in love with the Adjudicator
They are a great mix of power and subtle edge
She's a lesbian in real life, so you're shit out of luck my friend
The character was well cast and acted. I hated her, but that was the point.
@@cheesecrumpets Pansexual, to be exact.
@@uqailisyraf4206 whatever, man. There's too many ways of describing sexuality that I don't bother trying to remember anymore
Winston knew the suit was bulletproof. He did not try to kill his friend John Wick. Look at how Winston was firing his weapon. Aiming at the jacket. Avoiding openings to John's body.
You saw that too?!? At one of the many rewatchings, I finally caught on and replayed that whole scene about 2-3 times to make sure I saw where the bullets were being fired and he clearly fired directly into the left side of the jacket, where the protective lining is, instead of between the opening of the jacket/center mass.
What I don't get is that everyone knows Wick as a deadly instrument, but don't somehow piece together that it's not (at least I don't think it is) in his nature to seek out the killing of Gianna unless someone points him in her direction. He even tells Cassian that it was her brother who sent him and he still goes after Wick. Sure, Cassian and Gianna seemed to have a relationship of some sort, but it's still unreasonable to skip over the fact that Wick isn't a decision maker and wouldn't kill a member of the High Table without provocation.
Well Winston should have known too because of the marker but John killing her brother avenged her too in a way as well as John himself for his home being burned down and his being forced back into the life he had just left as Winston said. He's back but not fully he's not obeying the rules exactly he just seems to have nothing else to do now with his wife gone so it's more force of habit perhaps.
Yeah in the context of the movie I don’t understand how someone should have known that John wasn’t just gonna come after her out of the blue. Cassian should have known that too given the history between them.
Cassian knew, but didn't care. "An eye for an eye" was his motto, blood for blood regardless of the reasoning.
@@razor3535 Cassian I get it, especially in light of his apparent feelings for Gianna. But the rest of the assassin world is acting like John was acting on his own, even though Winston is aware that it was a marker from Santino.
If, in this world, Santino can take out a contract on a member of the High Table, and then put a contract on the person who carried out that contract, then the whole world would fall apart. Assassins would have less incentive to take contracts if it means the same person can take you out too.
@@banana403 yap,the biggest problem i had with the fact that no one did a thing to go after Santino even after learning he basically ordered the murder carried by Wick,everybody just went for him fully,no penalties for santino what so ever
I see it as the old guy pushed wick out of harms way to a fellow ally under the table. Thereby helping wick make more friends and supporters that the high table could not touch easily. In john wick 4, wick will see the wisdom in what Winston did to him for certain.
Wisnton didn't betray wick. He saved him. Before he shot wick, he pointed to wick to move towards the ledge.
Wow i cant believe i missed it but why shoot him though
@@claymack1109 to fool the high table into thinking he's with them
@@zubairmotala9204 ooohhhh ok i got it now makes total sense to
He also shot him in the chest (bulletproof jacket) he could’ve easily get him in the head
@@6998zico
Disrespectful though to mess someone face as respected as Wick. You don't go blowing a guy's face off. Your enemies yes. Not John Wick. Notice John Wick stabbed that guy in the chest on the bus and let him live. Respect.
best action movie made with a deep plot and universe. Looks like a simple movie and it is but you can also dig deeper and be immersed. Amazing
If the High Table is runs by families, I think Winston might be John’s dad. I mean, dude has done so much for John Wick to survive. To me, that’s either what a really really great friend would do to another great friend or that’s what a father would do to his son.
Or an uncle. Some form of family member which would explain why he refers to him as Johnathan. Even willam defoes characters seems rather close and protective
Crime organiziations are often referred to as "families" - they even often refer to themselves as such. It's not necessarily a mark of relationship, but more one of trust and loyalty.
A crime family is not necessarily a real family. They emulate such basic human relationships because of two reasons:
1) Crime is a lonely job. You don't go home as a crimeboss or a John Wick-level assassin and have a normal life and a normal family. High-profile crime is not a dayjob.
2) It infers loyalty.
The high table is not run by families - it's run by crime families. Some of these people may actually be related, but this is not the Habsburgs.
you forgot that john is an orphan, adopted to be trained as an assassin since the beginning of his life
Looper: *Uploads John Wick*
Me:
Oh..
BABA YAGA
It would not surprise me to learn that the network was the off-shoot of the first crusaders when they met the Hashashine who were the first group of assassins and with the power and money backing the crusades... formed an alliance to keep the peace as best as they can through archaic and ultimately analog means. The Knights Templar invented rudamentary forms of banking given they had to keep track of so much of it... and when they became too powerful through monetary means... were ultimately declared heretics by the church. So with their down-fall they fled to the darkness with their money and their assassins. That is where the Elder, one designated, born into or chosen by all the groups comes in.. they are the balance. They keep the rest in check and are exiled to the desert as both a safety mechanism and a penance for having such power. Because the only reason they would uphold such a thing, in such a situation is because they believe in the organization and it's ethics and not for some modern comforts.
I feel like the elder is the most skilled assasin in the john wick universe but john is close which is why the high table is concerned about him.
Now that Neo and Morpheus have been reunited, all that's missing is for Trinity to join in in order to kick some serious ass.
Carrie Anne Moss would've been a good choice as the adjudicator
Well the Adjudicator kind of acts like Trinity.
I cannot unsee Trinity as the adjudicator.
You guys means the future adjudicator right
The High Table had to know that Wick had to honor the marker held by Santino D'Antonio, and Wick killed the sister.
Why didn't the High Table have Santino D'Antonio killed for having one of it's members assassinated?
Bc there corrupt as they come
Because they cannot kill one of their own. That is the rules as well.
@@ethanweeter2732 correcting you: they cant kill one of their own, UNLESS one of their own don't abide by the rules. Remember that in High Table there are rules and ANYONE who don't respect them, must be punished.
Technically she killed herself.
I think there are two reasons to this, the first being that a marker has to be honored and that John Wick was the one who killed her. Technically D’Atntonio didn’t kill her and he also played it off as if it was John Wicks own goal. The other reason being that D’Antonio wasn’t a target due to a marker, John killed him because he was forced to kill some his sister. This was all planned so that wick can take the blame for everything. D’Antonio even made sure to be in the continental for when John would kill him so that John could be excommunicated. He even instigated John to kill him when he was shot, knowing full well that John would kill him regardless
Plot twist: John Wick universe is actually the sequel of The Matrix after Smith dead.
Exactly. Morpheus, the Key Maker, and Agent Johnson are all in the John Wick series.
@@BlueCourtingBooks Coincidence? I think not
"The origins of their formation is unknown but it is described as larger and older than any governments on Earth indicated that the foundation of the High Table can be traced back to ancient time, they are said to be as old as the Aztecs."
-The John Wicki
Mark my words: Charon, the concierge, is running everything.
Charon, in Greek mythology, the son of Erebus and Nyx (Night), whose duty it was to ferry over the Rivers Styx and Acheron those souls of the deceased who had received the rites of burial. In payment he received the coin that was placed in the mouth of the corpse.
Does this sound similar? Mythical Charon controlled the underworld of the dead where as concierge Charon controls the criminal under world
true
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do you board? this facility does not
Admiral General Aladeen when he sees 3:42 in John Wick 3 Parabellum: Nadal ??
It is Nuclear Nadal The head of nuclear program and procurement of women..
Do you want the Aladeen news or the Aladeen news?
Everything gangsta until mafia commandos arrives
Keanu Reeves is so bad ass. I’m happy they gave this role to him 😊
Don't forget though, even the adjudicator is scared of John, she's pretty nervous about his body not being in the alley
The High Table has no idea what's coming to them...
yeh they do the boogeyman lol
@@darthentity3833 Not Boogeyman, the one who was sent to kill the Boogeyman. BABA YAGA
@@sushantraj8722 lol
Hassan Sabbah was the founder of the hashashin. He was known as the old man on the mountain, or "the elder". He was supposedly immortal.
Figured the Elder was a nod to another secret assassin order. I think the High Table is similar to the Sicarii.
I was just thinking to myself - why did John Wick seek absolution, and then dive right back into the fray? Thank you for your commentary.
I'm pretty sure he knows the Elder well, so the absolution he grants may indeed have a hidden purpose (or more). After all, John could only bet on chaotic odds!
If I had to guess what perfume the characters are wearing here is my choice:
The Elder, Amouage Interlude
Gianna, Carolina Herrera Very Good Girl
Santino, Salvatore Ferragamo pour homme
Jonh Wick, Diesel Only the Brave
Bowery King, Tom Ford Tobacco Oud
Adjudicator, Dolce&Gabbana Velvet Black Patchouli
Winston, Creed Aventus
Wait for the fourth chapter,Wick is going to turn the table upside down 😂
the tables will be turned for real.
I hope so .. I hope he turns that table on its hhead
And Winston, Cassian ( if he is still alive, The two martial artists that John wick gave mercy, Bowery king will all assist in destroying the high table
The whole criminal syndicates around the world will have no something higher to control them anymore, see? This is why you didn't want to kill random someone's dog and stole his car
@@dariusfarrel3228 Cassian is alive.
Beyond the glorious mythology this series has created, these shots are sumptuous. DP deserves Little Oscar.
This movie is low-key Assassin's Creed!!
Except killing among themselves
more like Morag Tong from Morrowind, everyone is a friend until you got a contract on your head
I'd like to see John wick 4 being about a rebellion against the high table with john wick at the center of it.
Winston to Wick: Truth is, the game was rigged from the start
I am ready for John wick 4,5,6,7.... infinity.... I am so ready
The elder should have been played been played by sir Ben Kingsley.
@Luke Dixon I cant comment on that because I dont know anything about it. I do know sir Ben has had 3 wives 🤷♂️
Noooooo just noo
I never hated a human being the way I hate the Adjudicator.
Harry Potter Fans:
Is *Dalores Umbridge* A Joke To You?
Agreed... although Commodus in Gladiator, Joffrey in GoT are extremely close...
When Winston was with her looking at the body, he should have had a few of his men toss her into that furnace and when asked what became of her, he would just shrug and walk away.
@@stephenschroeder6567 She is likely every bit the Assassin they are.
I'd really like to see young John in action and more about the underworld
The night of the impossible task...I'd like to see that .
I love that the creatives behind John Wick are also about to reboot the Highlander universe. World building like this with Immortals will be sooo AWESOME
Winston is the true villain here just w8 and see.
I wonder how 12 families had settled themselves to form the High Table.
after ww2 , like UN formed...
@@udhayakumarMN 😂perfect analogy.
Wick has more friends that he does enemies. loyalty will save him.
This is really how the matrix started..he got to change his name to Neo
Winston, you lit the Wick.. You're going to witness the explosion...
I love the John Wick franchise. But considering we are already up to 4 and there are still so many mysteries, I’m guessing this movie series will end rather open ended with a lot of unanswered questions.
Chad Stahelski the director of John Wick movies did say that he is going to do one more sequel after John Wick 4 and that will be the ending of the series.
@@ForsakenAngel11 that’s cool. The mystique of the franchise is what makes it so cool. They don’t need to over explain or do a prequel “young John Wick on how he got started” crap that every other franchise does after they run out of ideas from dragging a movie series out too long. I just hope they leave it all alone after the final movie.
@@Bringthewinter We already have most of Young John Wick. It's the original Bill & Ted movies. John Wick is what you get after Ted is sent to Military School.
@@rothery2 it’s weird that I never watched those movies considering I’m from that time. But it would be cool if Alex Winter who played Bill was the final bad guy/ultimate villain in the last John Wick movie. As far as I know, he hasn’t made a cameo. And he’s still alive, so why not.
We have two more John Wick movies coming up as well as two spin-off. A spin-off Ballerina movie and a prequel focused on Winston and the Continental Hotel. So I think by the end things will mostly be fleshed out.
What rule did Lawrence Fishburne break exactly? He gave a gun to John, how the hell would he know he was going to use it to kill someone on Continental ground.
exactly what i was thinking
The fact that he assisted John Wick with a gun (kimble). Even though he told the adjudicator that he has the right to not accept the contract but the point is that it was Lawrence who assisted John in getting to Santino D'antonio by offering him a gun with 7 rounds included
No one is above the high table even if he's not part of it.
@@_nimrod92 do you know who is above the high table???
A candle 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@championheavyweight what
I love all the John Wick videos ! Keep em coming
I’m so excited for Chapter 4!!!
Fact: we all know who ever says “Baba Yaga” knows he’s coming after them.
Check the trilogy so far and hear what they say , he’s coming
One thing I never liked about the whole plot is that the table has the resources to meticulously identify every single person who helped John, most of them due to also owing him favors via that blood pledge thingy, yet aren't able to ascertain WHY John is in the position he's in to begin with, i.e. he was ordered to kill a member of one of the seat holders. Don't they have any regulations against that? even from people pledged to do so by their blood pact? Aside from the the Elder I can't imagine a position higher than having a seat on the table.
I understand that this would make it so that the events of the films don't really need to happen and that a lot of it is also tied to John executing Santino on hotel grounds, but there seems to be nothing in the high table regulations for exemptions on when one of their own is murdered through a blood pact, which makes their entire social rule system pretty bonkers to begin with IMO because i don't think it was ever specified to what degree John is being pursued in the third film due to killing on sacred grounds or killing a member of the high table; i know its both but it would help to know which one carries higher priority because then the previous point I made about Santino ordering the execution of his sister would carry proportionate weight and possibly be able to offset the rule about killing on sacred grounds?
I never understood either why Gianna didn't just rose to her designated position after promising protection for John and turn the tide against her sucker of a brother :|
@@shadowmystery5613 Very good point! If there is anybody capable of over-ruling the social rules, it should probably be a member of the high table and/or The Elder.
This is IMHO a huge plot hole in a movie which has made it a point to emphasize that the gold coins they use in their social order represent symbolism more so than currency. Hence, if their order puts more emphasis on social symbolism than currency, using a social blood pact to order a member of the high table or the ability to override such an order via a high table member should carry even more importance because the absence of such a failsafe would make the entire structure extraordinarily fragile and prone to instant collapse!
@@Steenkin Ye, it would've done the table actually good if Gianna would've taken the seat and got rid of her brother. Because when I compare the two from the few moments I saw Gianna I think she's a woman that's responsible and who's willing to do necessary stuff without going overboard where as her brother is just a psychopath threatening the entire table with his greed for power.
My impression of the blood markers (through Santino's "impossible" task of having his own sister, seated at the high table, killed and through John and Sophia's dialogue) is that no matter how outlandish the favor asked is, you are indebted, and if refused, the person that you gave the blood marker to has the right to kill you, which is why they made the markers seem like very weighted and rare things to have with someone else. My guess is that some of the people in this underground world have some pretty rule-breaking favors needed, so while the High Table doesnt excuse them, the person requesting the blood favor might ask for something outside the rules. Santino's actions raised a lot of questions for me as well, because as soon as John completes his favor and Santino stamps his blood everything should be even, but he breaks this by pretending it wasnt him who ordered the hit on Gianna and puts a bounty on Wicks head. Many "legal" questions there but to me it seemed the main reason that the High Table was coming for John vs. Santino was that he did a very good job of covering up the motives behind the hit and since Wick killed him, emphasized by the fact that it was on Continental grounds, Wick would be the person of focus for any wrongdoing. The whole John Wick universe is fascinating but yeah there are some major plot points that could be developed in more detail.
I think they dont care that John killed the lady. It’s just that one of the members of the high elite (the brother) wanted him dead.
So being part owner of the table, the brother set his goons on John. The problem I think was when he broke Continental rules. Recall in the first movie, when the lady killed in the Continental, she was hunted down by the higher ups. If John killed off grounds, like he did with the sister, the next person in line would take over. He or she could be like, “nah John, u good” then no bounty on his head. No contract. No reason to kill John. Life goes on as normal.
But instead, he kills on Continental grounds which is the grievous sin. The fact that it was a Table member, well that probably got the other table members antsy and wanted John gone because there’s nothing stopping this guy.
Which would also explain why the Elder was all super chill in John’s presence. He was like, yeah i can reverse the bounty and give you sanctuary again. No biggie. Because the issues that were plaguing John were those things, not the fact that the high table member was dead.
I think it's a mistake to assume there is only one adjudicator, the job would be impossible for one person worldwide. And Wick is not hunted to keep Santino's involvement in his sister's murder a secret. Winston demands to log the completion of the mission by Wick in the marker log book
Well in the second film they say sort of who makes up some of the high table. The Camorra, Ndrangheta, Sicilians (Cosa Nostra), Russian mob (Viggo and family), Chinese (Triads probably). So them then I’m sure Yakuza and Jewish mob probably have other seats with maybe another middle eastern family, then I’m sure Colombians or a different South American or Central American cartel have another. I hope they expand on the others. Maybe the Bowery King has a seat too.
the guy who pull the troley, is a nuclear scientist in ALADEEN universe...LOL
Yoooooo hilarious 😁😆
They call him the elder, so he's totally the elder from the mountains. The current inheritor of the moniker from Hassasn-i-sabbah, and leader of the Nizari Assassins.
Winston knows that there is sniper pointing at them that's why he betrayed Mr. Wick to let him escape... Why would the adjudicator be chillin up there if the Baba yaga is coming for the high table...hahaha
Yakuza Oyabun: "You're not here to kill Godzilla, are you?"
The fourth installment gonna show the rebellion of New York based mafia group against the High Table.
Does anyone have any idea of how many times John Wick said, "Yeah" in this 3rd movie 😂😂😂😂
Winston obviously shot John off the roof so he can make his escape I'm sure Winston knows John wears bulletproof suits
the police force must be some kind of a joke in John Wick's universe.
Bad guys killing bad guys killing more bad guys
Why disrupt the perfect chain
I think they are less powerful then the high table
Did Winston swore loyalty to the Table or the Table simply decided that they give back Winston's position and the Continental's neutral status
Help me out…if John already knew he would not kill Winston…why bother going overseas to bargain with the High Table
I’m also mystified that he makes a pledge to The Table, buts off his finger…in order to be allowed to return to NYC with the “blessing of High Table”?
But when he returns to NYC his is immediately met by Zero and hit hitmen. Why weren’t they called off?? Why bother cutting off your finger if they are allowing the hit men to still come at you?? What am I missing? Thanks
Right now I’m convince its a big plot hole or just an excuse to get Wick to an exotic location before going back to NYC. Thanks for any insights!
i think Winston meant not to kill wick he shot him in places he knew he would survive in order to get his hotel back in the League of assassins
I really want to know the origins... How this all came together! Especially the library/human resources (lol) pierced and tattooed people using Commodore 64s to enter the information 😬😅
No digital or online trace on the Commodore.
@@LordtwigPI well, you can have a modern OS (like Linux) unconnected (yank the Lan/wireless hardware out) and still perform the same tasks, probably faster and without fear of obsolete parts... So I think it's more of a stylistic choice, but I still want to know about those people and how they are recruited, etc etc.
@@DiecastNewb And the ballerinas. They are likely assassins too maybe.
I just know the theaters gonna cheer if/when the adjucator gets her shit kicked in, or dusted in a glorious cinematic sequence. 💯
The Elder being living in a desert in Morocco is a throw back hint to the real Assassins order (Hashashine) lived during the end of Abbasi Caliphate and just prior to mongols invasion which ended them. They used to live in a fort on top of a hill in northern Persia and Syria.
My view is that he is the founder of everything.
Remember them saying he is the one who sits above the High Table.
Still dont know more about the High Table than before this video. But thank you for posting it.
The untold truth:
The Elder is Bronn
The truth is, the "the one who sits above the table " is wearing the tablecloth, including the fancy tassels!
I'm still wondering about the other members of the high table, as far as I remember only Camorra and Ndrangheta were revealed to us. But I believe there are other crime family ruling as one of the high table. I'm also wondering about who is the highest authority from the continental, is it the elder??
A King or Queen, perhaps.
When you're a leader of a mafia family, yet there is so much power still above you.
Then at the top, Wick.
I wanna know if the payday gang would make a cameo and help John wick in part 4 since wick was on payday 2 and part of the gang? That would be sick
John has on several occasions left an enemy mortally wounded, but breathing.
Winston was taking a page outta John's play-book.
Exactly, he gave John a chance just like John gave to cassian
The High Table definitely learned from the best. -- Obi Wan Kenobi
It's over John Wick, I have the high table
Love the acknowledgement of Asia Kate Dillon as Non-Binary, that's awesome
Winston 'turning' on John, was Winston playing The Table.
I dont understand the quote that Winston gets to keep his power "Under the table" ? Does that mean that the High table doesn't know he's still in power?