The medical industry within the US is horribly overpriced and it’s only getting worse. For a lot of these people the question isn’t to get the treatment it’s do I get treatment and loose my house or refuse and keep it. It’s a horrible choice to have to make.
I get the impression that many people refuse treatment because they believe in holistic and alternative medicine. Big Pharma is always out to get you, always trying to poison you even when you have a legitimate medical problem.
@@floydlooney6837 ER will take you in but the bill can leave crippling levels of debt and in the end youll still end up paying more then you could ever afford, much less what the treatment is actually worth
Not a doctor, but I think my entire family needs therapy, including me. My mom has shown signs of narcissistic tendencies, my nan is paranoid that the entire family is out to get her, my uncle refuses to take his schizophrenia meds, my auntie and two of my younger female cousins need to be put in some sort of anger managment and I have depressive episodes and also might need to attend anger management of some sort too. My family has an entire history of bad mental illness and the first time I found out about this was when my mom told me that my adopted uncle's (yes the same one from before) real parents were put in some type of mental hospital. The worst part is, I want to get help and I want everybody else to get help, but nobody in my family thinks they have any problems and I just don't know what to do. When we come together sometimes for occasions, I feel like I'm stuck with a bunch of strangers with big fake smiles pretending to be better than they actually are. I may also have some sort of antisocial personality disorder that I don't know about, but then again there might be a lot of things I don't know about. I got diagnosed to be high on the spectrum when I was 19 and my mom was too proud to get me tested for sure. I just sincerely wish we could all get the help that we need.
You can't help them but if you are over 19 you can help yourself. Do what you need to and get yourself into some therapy even if it's just online. Trust me you will feel better once you get in
I am so sorry to hear about your families struggles. I am not a medical professional, but as a patient myself i can say the best step you will ever take to working with your struggles and working as best you can through them with the right supports and medical team is acknowledging or even recognising that you can see a struggle and want to try and get it sorted. When you've only ever known life one way even realising something doesn't feel right is a MASSIVE step in personal growth and the right place to start. Being above the age of 19 I personally (again not a medical professional this is from my own experiences and what helped me getting started getting my stuff sorted) recommend just having a chat with a general practitioner/ family med doc. just say what you've said here, or what you are comfortable starting with. you dont have to tell them everything, or about all of your fears, what you feel is going on bigger picture in great detail. you can simply just that you want mental health support and would like to know where to start. there are also some fantastic online apps where you can just speak to a therapist and they can help you and guide you where to go, what supports and help is available and what you need to do to try and explore this and get some testing, support and some amazing people on your side. they may also be a great fit straight away and you feel comfortable sharing. therapists are like boyfriends/girlfriends- not all are for you do not feel afraid to change therapists if you dont feel comfortable with current one. they arent going to get offended- in fact its encouraged as they just want whats best for you too!! There is help out there. its just so hard to know where to start. im sorry for all my unsolicited advice and please- you dont need to pay it any attention and i do hope i havent overstepped or offended you. i just know it was so confusing and scary and i had no idea what to do or where to start
Separate from any mental health issues, i strongly believe EVERYONE should go to therapy regardless I'm proud of you for realizing that you need the help to change your current situation :)
Not a doctor but I work with people with disabilities in home and community-based services. Probably the worst is a young guy with kidney failure who keeps refusing dialysis treatment. He’s constantly in and out of the hospital and no freestanding dialysis clinic will accept him anymore because of his history of noncompliance. He is supposed to go to the hospital three days a week to receive outpatient dialysis treatment (generally a no-no but it’s his only option). He gets treatment while he’s admitted but as soon as he leaves he refuses to go to treatment again. Genuinely don’t know how he’s still alive. I have referred him for mental health services (as have social workers in the hospital) but he hasn’t done that yet either, likely because he’s not home for long enough periods to make the call.
Well, my fil had kidney dialysis and he hated receiving them....made him want to drink alcohol well his catheter port closed up and he said that he's either going to get healed or go on to heaven. Can't say that I blame him dialysis is very hard on your body! Yet some people do it for decades and some can't stand 1 treatment. Now I'm not saying that you should end yourself but some treatments are just not going to add life to your years!
“Why did you call 911 for chest pain and then refuse treatment” They thought that they could just get some pain medicine and go back home, but once they realize that they have an actual medical problem, they think, “Oh my god if I pay that I’m gonna lose my house”, and decide to take chances with death.
1. My stepmother died in hospital after having suffered a broken back for months, but refused operations or any special treatment. So the docs/nurses could only pump her full of pain killers and give basic care. She already took a ton of medication and her organs (liver & kidneys) were in a bad shape. She died from organ failure and heart attack. 2. When I was hospitalized 2½ years ago I shared a room with a guy who had both legs amputated from untreated diabetes. He knew he had it, but refused to do anything about it for 10+ years "because I don't want to spend my time with that crap." It was only when his feet were black and he could no longer walk that he sought medical help.
People forget the fact that cancer treatment also effects you mentally. Classic example is my father, had blood cancer, is now in remission(thank god). However, the physical issues were small when comparing to the mental. As a person on chemo you will begin to think the world is against you and there are other ways to save yourself. You will believe that your family is against you and you will make crazy decisions without consulting anyone or won't even listen to contractors or experts. Your thought process becomes I won't live long so let me do everything I can for the family even if they won't like it right now. Which leads to many incidents in which you start to think, should I just leave them in a mental house until they get better. Only advice I will say is make sure you have an open dialogue with your family member/friend prior to them starting treatment, to stop their crazy nonsense.
I uhh... I was a very adventurous youth. Thought it was hilarious and awesome to sound my member, shove a pencil down it and launch it at my bedroom door. Yeah that was real fun till one day I did it with a mechanical pencil type thing but it was just one long eraser. It didn't come back out. I was too scared and embarrassed to tell my mom what I did. So I suffered for like 2 days before the pain was so bad I could barely stand. "Uh mom? I need you to take me to the hospital and not ask any questions." She asked questions. I gave answers. This brought more questions. First time I swore at my mother. We went to the hospital. Doctor asked questions. Misunderstood my answers. Went under. Woke up to my dad sitting next to me, in a dark room, in a different hospital, 3 cities away while a REALLY hot nurse bent over exposing her cleavage while taking my blood pressure. I yelled "Give the little bastard some rest dammit! He's had a hard day!" I've never seen my father laugh at a penis joke, let alone laugh for 5 straight minutes. It was the best worst day I've ever had. Edit; I don't understand how auto correct can change a word that's spelled right and grammatically correct to something that makes no sense.
24:28 Clearly the most gnarly case of all the stories and you can't convince me otherwise! I'm not even disgusted; I just want to know what drove him into not trusting 'doctors' of all people!
The stories about people refusing treatment in the name of religion always just makes me angry. I have a conservative “christian” mother who’s anti-vaxx. I don’t live with her anymore thank goodness but my little brother got COVID and then suffered terrible kidney failure as a result. She still won’t admit it’s her fault. Despite all the terrible things she’s done to me, I have never been angrier with her than when my little brother fell ill.
This is why I think people shouldn't be able to deny medical treatment to children cause of their religion. My mom was that way and denied me medical treatment for a sprained ankle, not even staying off it for a few days. Now I have a permanent limp, weak tendons, arthritis l, and plantar facilitus that I have to go in next month for surgery. I'm not even 40 yet either.
the colon cancer one hit close to home. My Grandpa died after only doing surgery and no chemo for his colon cancer. His Gf (he was still married) convinced him to do hollistic. My only memory of him is me hugging him and saying goodbye followed a horrible feeling something bad would happen to him. 3 years later I got to meet him 1 more time at his open coffin funeral
I feel like the comment around ~19:10 is really insensitive and ignorant. It’s not that the people who refuse treatment for cancer are “shrugging” the diagnoses off. One reason is that they don’t want to spend their remaining time suffering through chemo and radiation depending on their prognosis.
27:12 a colonoscopy isn't to bad really. I could think of worse operations to have. Colonoscopy is done within the hour and you get a good sleep while it's done.
There can be complications from the procedure if they don't 💯 sanitize what they use in you (which has a lot of crevices ) you can get really bad infections
Colonoscopy? The post was talking about a colostomy, which is the removal of part of your colon, and the new end of your intestine pokes out of your abdomen and the poop from it goes into a bag. I'd be willing to have a colonoscopy if I needed it. I really really REALLY don't want to EVER have a colostomy.
11:45 I recently had a flat earther, tell me I can fix my diabetes and autism, plus my autoimmune issue or my depression, by fasting. Absolutely no idea about the many strategies used to try making my life more tolerable. Already tried or in use, it didn't matter
Not a doctor, but last year during Christmas i went to a family member's house for Christmas dinner. There was a older guy there, he had a pacemaker and some heart issues, a while after we finishes eating, i went to my cousin's room and we talked about stuff. While we were talking, the mans pacemaker started having problems, and his chest was hurting, his daughter called 911 and tried to get him to go to the hospital. The responder told him that he could have a heart attack, he didn't listen.
I've used this story before as a religious person myself and I want to share it as someone who both believes in God and miracles, AND also believes that modern medical treatment is something to be utilized. To anyone who struggles with someone who believes in faith healing only, please share with them The Story of the Drowning Man. A fellow was stuck on his rooftop in a flood. He was praying to God for help. Soon a man in a rowboat came by and the fellow shouted to the man on the roof, “Jump in, I can save you.” The stranded fellow shouted back, “No, it’s OK, I’m praying to God and he is going to save me.” So the rowboat went on. Then a motorboat came by. The fellow in the motorboat shouted, “Jump in, I can save you.” To this the stranded man said, “No thanks, I’m praying to God and he is going to save me. I have faith.” So the motorboat went on. Then a helicopter came by and the pilot shouted down, “Grab this rope and I will lift you to safety.” To this the stranded man again replied, “No thanks, I’m praying to God and he is going to save me. I have faith.” So the helicopter reluctantly flew away. Soon the water rose above the rooftop and the man drowned. He went to Heaven. He finally got his chance to discuss this whole situation with God, at which point he exclaimed, “I had faith in you but you didn’t save me, you let me drown. I don’t understand why!” To this God replied, “I sent you a rowboat and a motorboat and a helicopter, what more did you expect?” Tell them that while God still can and does perform miracles, God has also given humanity the tools, skills and knowledge to enact those miracles through humanity. Sometimes, he works his miracles through things like modern medicine. Snubbing his answers to your prayers just because they don't fit your definition of miracle is honestly incredibly selfish and essentially says you know better than God. If you die from an easily treatable thing, get to Heaven and then ask 'why didn't you answer my prayers?', I'm willin' to bet the Almighty isn't gonna be very pleased... because he DID answer your prayers. We don't get to choose HOW God grants us miracles or answers our prayers. Think very very hard before you reject medical assistance after asking God for help.
Obligatory not a dr but it’s super super sad seeing so many people with mental illnesses refusing treatment. I’ve seen friends with EDs fade away to nothing, ones with addictions totally ruin their lives, even people with “just” depression mess up their work and relationships because they don’t get the right treatment. Mental illnesses are real illnesses that need medical intervention, but because most of the time people look fine they ignore it until it absolutely ruins everything. This is also your daily reminder to take your meds ❤
A lot of meds come with a multitude of side effects that I don't want! I'd rather have the add than the side effects of whatever pill they are pushing this week!
@@MichellesdesignsEtc yes. I think people as far as possible should have an actual choice if they want to take those meds (may be extreme cases where thats not viable, but even then it can be discussed if its really ethical to force someone). You have to suffer either way, let people have a choice of what way they rather suffer. Or if they have any ideological issues with the medicines themself. Let people decide over their own bodies, its just as important with medicine as with anything else. It is in itself a horrible thing to force someone and some greatly underestimate how important that choice can be. I have had mental health issues various times in my life but have never taken meds for it and you do get better after a while naturally. Unless the conditions you live in are terribe, but then the root causes of a bad envirorment is what should be dealt with instead. Something is SERIOUSLY wrong on a society level if most people have to be on spych meds to be baseline content. Therapy and sometimes medication (at a choice as far as possible) can be good for some people (and its only actually good if the person getting it percieves it as good), but should never be accepted as a replacement for dealing with the root cause
I'm not in medicine, but i have kind of a 2 for 1. My grandmother recently had a diabetic episode bad enough that she was off the charts by about 30%. Skip forward a couple of months, and she's back in the hospital again with necrotising faceitis (idk how to spell it but it's a flesh eating bacteria) likely cause in part by, you guessed it, absurdly high sugar. I'm not sure what she was like in the hospital, but when she got home, her and Grandpa stayed with me and my family and was like a little kid when it came to the routine and i hate to say that, due to strength or competence she might not be here if she went with anyone else. Fortunately, she's fine, if anything, still recovering her strength.
It’s OK, pronunciation or no, I at least understood you. And if, by a little kid, you mean terrible, I live with people like that. Especially when it comes to diet, you should hear my mother stories about her nursing school days. We lived in Southeastern, Ohio, and the southeastern part of my state is the closest to the Appalachian mountains, also closest to the Kentucky border on that side of the state, currently live in Cincinnati where I am now I’m more of a tri-state area. I swear that was our town hillbilly crazy Ville, nothing as people who live in that area.
@user-vt4si1ef6r yeah I mean terrible. Best description I can give is imagine a kid that doesn't want to eat their vegetables so they just yell and fight
@@ninomitchell2039 mom and I live with a guy like that for 14 years, I’m just grateful I was either in high school, I went to a kind of boarding school situation, or in college for most of that time. Period. The kicker is the man was a doctor, geriatrician and family practice, he had medical conditions of his own that he would not manage. We could probably talk about this all day long, I feel your pain.
I am not a doctor in fact I was the patient who refused treatment but not for the typical stuff you would think I got mugged by three guys with machetes and had very bad cuts all over my body the worst was on my hand. The Doctor Who is treating me held up a needle full of something to numb it and I told him I would appreciate it if you did not stick me with that needle. And he proceeded to say oh you're be okay and stuck the needle in my hand anyways and injected me with it and few seconds later are punched him in his face and told him to get the H double hockey sticks out of here. He abruptly left the room not even 2 minutes later another doctor came in asked what was going on I explained the situation he told me that doctor should have done that if I asked him not to do it and he proceeded to sew my hand up and then proceeded to sew my leg and my back and my chest up without using anything for pain. The reason why I refused was because the needle and injections whatever ha use to numb it hurts so bad like really really bad. And the numbing agent always wears off within a few minutes anyway so ended up feeling everything. My opinion being sowed up hurts a lot less than being injected with a needle and numbing solution. It always burn so bad and then itches for days.
Okay i thought i was thw only one...i hurt my leg and need treatment, but the numbing stuff really really hurt and itches...that whole spot feeling like it burning and it wore out so fast that i got mad because what was the point...the doctor thought i was on something and i wasn't
That happened in my early 20s. The few times I have needed stitches and one time I needed staples I told the doctor no numbing and they didn't they would did war me that it was going to hurt a lot but it didn't hurt and nowhere near as bad as that darn freaking injection.
I've seen too many people try to leave ama after coming into hospital with chest pain. Our cardiacunit and ER instituted policy to give morphine immediately for the chest pain, then patients couldn't check out on their own because it's considered that they are in altered state of mind and can't give consent. Of course that was 20 years ago. Also had patients comi,g in for rectal bleeding but refuse prep for colonoscopy because enemas and laxatives results are just so inconvenient. Like colon cancer is better?
I sliced my left hand open on a katana and just bandaged it up as there wasn't that much blood, i could move all my fingers/thumb so i knew i hadn't cut the tendon and it wasn't hurting that much. I went to work the next day and they said go to the fucking hospital you idiot. I refused and started my morning preparations (I work with knives in a abattoir funnily enough) by lunchtime my hand had swollen to twice it's size and at that point I reluctantly went to the hospital but not in a ambulance i drove myself there. When I got to A&E I was rushed to surgery where they cut my hand open more to cut out the infected area's and stitch my hand back up. When I woke up I immediately tried to discharge myself however the nurses pleaded with me to stay for 1 night due to the aesthetic as I wasn't allowed to drive. I then called my dad and asked him to pick me and my car up while not mentioning I just had surgery, he came over immediately took 1 look at me and just burst out laughing at my stupidity. As for the reason I didn't want to go to the hospital 1 was I just didn't think it was that bad initially, 2 i hate hospitals due to a fear of needles and crowded places and, 3 I hate the idea of people wasting time on me even if it's their job
About the last one... Honestly, same. I didn't know it was a fear other people have, but yeah, the thought of having a colostomy really freaks me out 😨
When googling it I found its normally not painful. Seems inconvenient to live with, but still livable and probably much better than the alternative when having it is needed www.healthdirect.gov.au/living-with-a-stoma
That father chose to miss out of most of his son's life just to see a fake graduation from 6th grade? That's messed up. Wherever the dad is now, he regrets that choice.
My husband went in to the ER with blood pressure that high, and numbness in his arm and face, was slurring words, and they released him. I called our primary care provider and he direct admitted my husband and ordered a bunch of tests. Actually had small stroke at age 39.
I've been dealing with Hodgkin's lymphoma for almost 9 years, diabetic for 10...I take all my meds and do my chemo but the chemo has ruined my heart. I will admit that meds work but they rarely cure...all over the world organized medicine is an industry, and patients are customers, and a customer cured is a customer lost... It may be unpopular but I think addicts that od more than once should just be allowed to die...they will just keep going till they fall apart. Let em die peacefully.
If someone is using hard drugs, they're already dead. If someone is dealing hard drugs, they're already dead. The problem is that for someone to sink into those depths of societal and personal dysfunction, they've already collapsed each threshold they could traverse and clawed their way down each wall - each trial of integrity, virtue, and their own life and lives of others - that was ever present to stop them. They don't die peacefully. They die because they've already damaged or destroyed everything they could reach before swirling a caress around their last fix. The vicious mindset around drugs saturates itself with inkous secrecy and alienation, as it is the only environment that can justify its existence. A former coworker of mine was very clearly a habitual user of hard substances - a wild look in bloodshot eyes, utterly unkempt and smelling of rancid chemicals, gawky motor mannerisms, teeth that appeared like tombstones melting under mats of black mold, and aged skin pockmarked with flayed, open wounds and scarring. I am not gruesomely exaggerating the details. When his inability to regulate social interactions began whittling away at his composure, he stole a significant magnitude of money and bounced. It was a battering experience to be whiplashed between the frustration and relief, because that was the best-case scenario.
Ok hear me out, after having now watched 4 people in my family go through cancer treatment and die anyway because of the effects of the treatment I can categorically say that if I was diagnosed with cancer no matter what age and my options were death from the cancer or radiation treatments like chemotherapy or radiotherapy then I’ll take sea h by the cancer without hesitation, pain from the cancer can be managed, painful yes but managed. The systematic death of your body because it is dying cell by cell from radiation is far more painful and horrific to me. So yes I would refuse treatment, that being said I am one of those people who if I suspected I had cancer I wouldn’t go to the doctor in the first place, I’d make sure I had my affairs in order and enjoy the time I had left as much as I could.
As someone who’s uncle died from incurable cancer; the cancer isn’t any better than the radiation. Your body is taken over by a foreign entity and it eats you, literally eats away at you. The only way to manage the pain is to pump you full of so many drugs that you can’t say good bye and don’t know where you are. Radiation makes your body fall apart, but gives a chance of recovery. Cancer will eat every part of you that matters until you’re a yellow husk
not a doctor but, yeah my family is a mess, my step abused by his parents internalizes his frustrations then takes them out all at once on little things. While my mother not only gets offended over everything, she also holds grudges and is petty. Plus her attitude towards emotions is if you are not willing to listen to her advice then shut up because she doesn't want to hear you whine. She thens whines about multiple things, there's more but my problems as a 31 yr old for 28 yrs I thought all of this was normal due to having no other stable relationships around to judge normalcy. I have other issues but that is my biggest one. Thanks to reddit and tik Tok I get the sense this family isn't normal or healthy but I feel like I should. still sit down with a specialist and have them explain why
I refuse screenings as they trigger my anorexia which i can die from. Ah no. Ive 12 per cent body fat and have to alter everything. I got a cancer scare in the middle of my weight restoration and that was most upsetting. I am now shredded. I faint easily. Have to eat well or im out. Any extra fat cancer scare. Fat loss back to normal ok. I am very small. Was dealt a bad hand there. Im the size pf a seven year old. Ive a stone of solid muscle. Got smaller even as i gained as i tightened up so much.
Dear Jehovah’s witnesses: from one Christian to another, just take the darn blood. I donate blood. I am giving you my blood. Just take it if you need it.
Yeah, I’d think God would be understanding about doing it to save your life. Plus the restriction is about consuming blood, which doesn’t sound like transfusion.
"I tore that card up a few years ago." Did they also burn the pieces they tore up to erase all evidence that they were a Jehovah Witness from existence? 🤔
@@samsimington5563 Sure; given the reference to erasing all evidence of it from existence, I thought there was some significance to that beyond just symbolically walking away from JW by destroying it.
The amb The amb The ambThe ambThe ambThe amb The amb The ambThe ambThe ambThe amb The amb The ambThe ambThe amb... couldn't get out of the way...LMFAOOOOO
What’s sad is a lot of people probably refused treatment because of how expensive treatment is n the USA
ER is never refused, nobody is forced to pay if they can't afford it
The medical industry within the US is horribly overpriced and it’s only getting worse. For a lot of these people the question isn’t to get the treatment it’s do I get treatment and loose my house or refuse and keep it. It’s a horrible choice to have to make.
I get the impression that many people refuse treatment because they believe in holistic and alternative medicine. Big Pharma is always out to get you, always trying to poison you even when you have a legitimate medical problem.
@Floyd Looney where did you get this information? People are certainly forced to pay who can't afford it
@@floydlooney6837 ER will take you in but the bill can leave crippling levels of debt and in the end youll still end up paying more then you could ever afford, much less what the treatment is actually worth
10:26 onward the audio broke and it was just “the ambu the ambu the ambu” it was so fucking funny
THE AMBUL.. THE AMBUL.. THE AMBUL..
So it wasn't just my computer.
LMFAO
10:20 The ambu the ambu The ambu the ambu The ambu the ambu
Not a doctor, but I think my entire family needs therapy, including me. My mom has shown signs of narcissistic tendencies, my nan is paranoid that the entire family is out to get her, my uncle refuses to take his schizophrenia meds, my auntie and two of my younger female cousins need to be put in some sort of anger managment and I have depressive episodes and also might need to attend anger management of some sort too. My family has an entire history of bad mental illness and the first time I found out about this was when my mom told me that my adopted uncle's (yes the same one from before) real parents were put in some type of mental hospital. The worst part is, I want to get help and I want everybody else to get help, but nobody in my family thinks they have any problems and I just don't know what to do. When we come together sometimes for occasions, I feel like I'm stuck with a bunch of strangers with big fake smiles pretending to be better than they actually are. I may also have some sort of antisocial personality disorder that I don't know about, but then again there might be a lot of things I don't know about. I got diagnosed to be high on the spectrum when I was 19 and my mom was too proud to get me tested for sure. I just sincerely wish we could all get the help that we need.
Stay strong, it's a long hard road to being okay
You can't help them but if you are over 19 you can help yourself. Do what you need to and get yourself into some therapy even if it's just online. Trust me you will feel better once you get in
My mom is the same as yours when it comes to behaviour.
I am so sorry to hear about your families struggles. I am not a medical professional, but as a patient myself i can say the best step you will ever take to working with your struggles and working as best you can through them with the right supports and medical team is acknowledging or even recognising that you can see a struggle and want to try and get it sorted. When you've only ever known life one way even realising something doesn't feel right is a MASSIVE step in personal growth and the right place to start. Being above the age of 19 I personally (again not a medical professional this is from my own experiences and what helped me getting started getting my stuff sorted) recommend just having a chat with a general practitioner/ family med doc. just say what you've said here, or what you are comfortable starting with. you dont have to tell them everything, or about all of your fears, what you feel is going on bigger picture in great detail. you can simply just that you want mental health support and would like to know where to start. there are also some fantastic online apps where you can just speak to a therapist and they can help you and guide you where to go, what supports and help is available and what you need to do to try and explore this and get some testing, support and some amazing people on your side. they may also be a great fit straight away and you feel comfortable sharing. therapists are like boyfriends/girlfriends- not all are for you do not feel afraid to change therapists if you dont feel comfortable with current one. they arent going to get offended- in fact its encouraged as they just want whats best for you too!! There is help out there. its just so hard to know where to start.
im sorry for all my unsolicited advice and please- you dont need to pay it any attention and i do hope i havent overstepped or offended you. i just know it was so confusing and scary and i had no idea what to do or where to start
Separate from any mental health issues, i strongly believe EVERYONE should go to therapy regardless
I'm proud of you for realizing that you need the help to change your current situation :)
Not a doctor but I work with people with disabilities in home and community-based services. Probably the worst is a young guy with kidney failure who keeps refusing dialysis treatment. He’s constantly in and out of the hospital and no freestanding dialysis clinic will accept him anymore because of his history of noncompliance. He is supposed to go to the hospital three days a week to receive outpatient dialysis treatment (generally a no-no but it’s his only option). He gets treatment while he’s admitted but as soon as he leaves he refuses to go to treatment again. Genuinely don’t know how he’s still alive. I have referred him for mental health services (as have social workers in the hospital) but he hasn’t done that yet either, likely because he’s not home for long enough periods to make the call.
Well, my fil had kidney dialysis and he hated receiving them....made him want to drink alcohol well his catheter port closed up and he said that he's either going to get healed or go on to heaven. Can't say that I blame him dialysis is very hard on your body! Yet some people do it for decades and some can't stand 1 treatment. Now I'm not saying that you should end yourself but some treatments are just not going to add life to your years!
“Why did you call 911 for chest pain and then refuse treatment”
They thought that they could just get some pain medicine and go back home, but once they realize that they have an actual medical problem, they think, “Oh my god if I pay that I’m gonna lose my house”, and decide to take chances with death.
1. My stepmother died in hospital after having suffered a broken back for months, but refused operations or any special treatment. So the docs/nurses could only pump her full of pain killers and give basic care. She already took a ton of medication and her organs (liver & kidneys) were in a bad shape. She died from organ failure and heart attack.
2. When I was hospitalized 2½ years ago I shared a room with a guy who had both legs amputated from untreated diabetes. He knew he had it, but refused to do anything about it for 10+ years "because I don't want to spend my time with that crap." It was only when his feet were black and he could no longer walk that he sought medical help.
25:15 JESUS TAP DANCING CHRIST
People forget the fact that cancer treatment also effects you mentally. Classic example is my father, had blood cancer, is now in remission(thank god). However, the physical issues were small when comparing to the mental. As a person on chemo you will begin to think the world is against you and there are other ways to save yourself. You will believe that your family is against you and you will make crazy decisions without consulting anyone or won't even listen to contractors or experts. Your thought process becomes I won't live long so let me do everything I can for the family even if they won't like it right now. Which leads to many incidents in which you start to think, should I just leave them in a mental house until they get better. Only advice I will say is make sure you have an open dialogue with your family member/friend prior to them starting treatment, to stop their crazy nonsense.
I uhh... I was a very adventurous youth. Thought it was hilarious and awesome to sound my member, shove a pencil down it and launch it at my bedroom door. Yeah that was real fun till one day I did it with a mechanical pencil type thing but it was just one long eraser. It didn't come back out. I was too scared and embarrassed to tell my mom what I did. So I suffered for like 2 days before the pain was so bad I could barely stand. "Uh mom? I need you to take me to the hospital and not ask any questions." She asked questions. I gave answers. This brought more questions. First time I swore at my mother. We went to the hospital. Doctor asked questions. Misunderstood my answers. Went under. Woke up to my dad sitting next to me, in a dark room, in a different hospital, 3 cities away while a REALLY hot nurse bent over exposing her cleavage while taking my blood pressure. I yelled "Give the little bastard some rest dammit! He's had a hard day!" I've never seen my father laugh at a penis joke, let alone laugh for 5 straight minutes.
It was the best worst day I've ever had.
Edit; I don't understand how auto correct can change a word that's spelled right and grammatically correct to something that makes no sense.
That story about the man jizzing out blood made me feel spiritual pain. I wouldn’t wish that on my worst enemy
I was clenched in a ball the entire time, just the thought of it hurts
All these stories are awful, but I think the gangrene leg, all the way to the bone, was the worst story here. Doesn't even compare to spunking blood.
The deadpan "oh my god I'm gonna puke" response kinda deadened the impact a bit for me
The people who refuse modern day medicine for their children really infuriates me. Also why come into the ER if you're just going to refuse treatment
They may be unable to afford treatment. Try finding out the facts instead of hating.
I'm in New Zealand thankfully so we're not the same as America with their bullshit healthcare system, I should probably be mad at them instead .
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24:28 Clearly the most gnarly case of all the stories and you can't convince me otherwise! I'm not even disgusted; I just want to know what drove him into not trusting 'doctors' of all people!
The stories about people refusing treatment in the name of religion always just makes me angry. I have a conservative “christian” mother who’s anti-vaxx. I don’t live with her anymore thank goodness but my little brother got COVID and then suffered terrible kidney failure as a result. She still won’t admit it’s her fault. Despite all the terrible things she’s done to me, I have never been angrier with her than when my little brother fell ill.
This is why I think people shouldn't be able to deny medical treatment to children cause of their religion. My mom was that way and denied me medical treatment for a sprained ankle, not even staying off it for a few days. Now I have a permanent limp, weak tendons, arthritis l, and plantar facilitus that I have to go in next month for surgery. I'm not even 40 yet either.
12:24 this story reminds me of when I was diagnosed with a diabetes my blood sugar was so high the hospitals machine couldn’t read it
the colon cancer one hit close to home. My Grandpa died after only doing surgery and no chemo for his colon cancer. His Gf (he was still married) convinced him to do hollistic. My only memory of him is me hugging him and saying goodbye followed a horrible feeling something bad would happen to him. 3 years later I got to meet him 1 more time at his open coffin funeral
The Bill Cosby rule. OMFG!
I feel like the comment around ~19:10 is really insensitive and ignorant. It’s not that the people who refuse treatment for cancer are “shrugging” the diagnoses off. One reason is that they don’t want to spend their remaining time suffering through chemo and radiation depending on their prognosis.
when i have heard the saying id rather die then have a colostomy not once did i think id ever hear such a visceral and horrible example of that.
The school nurse wouldn’t take my splinter out
27:12 a colonoscopy isn't to bad really.
I could think of worse operations to have.
Colonoscopy is done within the hour and you get a good sleep while it's done.
Colostomy is something very different.
It's life changing. I'd rather die than live my life with a bag
There can be complications from the procedure if they don't 💯 sanitize what they use in you (which has a lot of crevices ) you can get really bad infections
Colonoscopy? The post was talking about a colostomy, which is the removal of part of your colon, and the new end of your intestine pokes out of your abdomen and the poop from it goes into a bag. I'd be willing to have a colonoscopy if I needed it. I really really REALLY don't want to EVER have a colostomy.
11:45 I recently had a flat earther, tell me I can fix my diabetes and autism, plus my autoimmune issue or my depression, by fasting.
Absolutely no idea about the many strategies used to try making my life more tolerable.
Already tried or in use, it didn't matter
i used 2 smoke crack, miss it
Not a doctor, but last year during Christmas i went to a family member's house for Christmas dinner. There was a older guy there, he had a pacemaker and some heart issues, a while after we finishes eating, i went to my cousin's room and we talked about stuff. While we were talking, the mans pacemaker started having problems, and his chest was hurting, his daughter called 911 and tried to get him to go to the hospital. The responder told him that he could have a heart attack, he didn't listen.
I've used this story before as a religious person myself and I want to share it as someone who both believes in God and miracles, AND also believes that modern medical treatment is something to be utilized. To anyone who struggles with someone who believes in faith healing only, please share with them The Story of the Drowning Man.
A fellow was stuck on his rooftop in a flood. He was praying to God for help.
Soon a man in a rowboat came by and the fellow shouted to the man on the roof, “Jump in, I can save you.”
The stranded fellow shouted back, “No, it’s OK, I’m praying to God and he is going to save me.”
So the rowboat went on.
Then a motorboat came by. The fellow in the motorboat shouted, “Jump in, I can save you.”
To this the stranded man said, “No thanks, I’m praying to God and he is going to save me. I have faith.”
So the motorboat went on.
Then a helicopter came by and the pilot shouted down, “Grab this rope and I will lift you to safety.”
To this the stranded man again replied, “No thanks, I’m praying to God and he is going to save me. I have faith.”
So the helicopter reluctantly flew away.
Soon the water rose above the rooftop and the man drowned. He went to Heaven. He finally got his chance to discuss this whole situation with God, at which point he exclaimed, “I had faith in you but you didn’t save me, you let me drown. I don’t understand why!”
To this God replied, “I sent you a rowboat and a motorboat and a helicopter, what more did you expect?”
Tell them that while God still can and does perform miracles, God has also given humanity the tools, skills and knowledge to enact those miracles through humanity. Sometimes, he works his miracles through things like modern medicine. Snubbing his answers to your prayers just because they don't fit your definition of miracle is honestly incredibly selfish and essentially says you know better than God. If you die from an easily treatable thing, get to Heaven and then ask 'why didn't you answer my prayers?', I'm willin' to bet the Almighty isn't gonna be very pleased... because he DID answer your prayers. We don't get to choose HOW God grants us miracles or answers our prayers. Think very very hard before you reject medical assistance after asking God for help.
No one gonna talk about the narrator going robot mode
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It was a moment of unease that I wasn’t in the mood for
"letting your own kid die from your own negligent parenting" the definition of dying from someone else's stupidity
Obligatory not a dr but it’s super super sad seeing so many people with mental illnesses refusing treatment. I’ve seen friends with EDs fade away to nothing, ones with addictions totally ruin their lives, even people with “just” depression mess up their work and relationships because they don’t get the right treatment. Mental illnesses are real illnesses that need medical intervention, but because most of the time people look fine they ignore it until it absolutely ruins everything.
This is also your daily reminder to take your meds ❤
obligatory "obligatory, because im defying the one pov condition the question provides"
A lot of meds come with a multitude of side effects that I don't want! I'd rather have the add than the side effects of whatever pill they are pushing this week!
Obviously I'm not Dr!
@@MichellesdesignsEtc yes. I think people as far as possible should have an actual choice if they want to take those meds (may be extreme cases where thats not viable, but even then it can be discussed if its really ethical to force someone). You have to suffer either way, let people have a choice of what way they rather suffer. Or if they have any ideological issues with the medicines themself. Let people decide over their own bodies, its just as important with medicine as with anything else. It is in itself a horrible thing to force someone and some greatly underestimate how important that choice can be.
I have had mental health issues various times in my life but have never taken meds for it and you do get better after a while naturally. Unless the conditions you live in are terribe, but then the root causes of a bad envirorment is what should be dealt with instead. Something is SERIOUSLY wrong on a society level if most people have to be on spych meds to be baseline content. Therapy and sometimes medication (at a choice as far as possible) can be good for some people (and its only actually good if the person getting it percieves it as good), but should never be accepted as a replacement for dealing with the root cause
I'm not in medicine, but i have kind of a 2 for 1. My grandmother recently had a diabetic episode bad enough that she was off the charts by about 30%. Skip forward a couple of months, and she's back in the hospital again with necrotising faceitis (idk how to spell it but it's a flesh eating bacteria) likely cause in part by, you guessed it, absurdly high sugar. I'm not sure what she was like in the hospital, but when she got home, her and Grandpa stayed with me and my family and was like a little kid when it came to the routine and i hate to say that, due to strength or competence she might not be here if she went with anyone else. Fortunately, she's fine, if anything, still recovering her strength.
It’s OK, pronunciation or no, I at least understood you. And if, by a little kid, you mean terrible, I live with people like that. Especially when it comes to diet, you should hear my mother stories about her nursing school days. We lived in Southeastern, Ohio, and the southeastern part of my state is the closest to the Appalachian mountains, also closest to the Kentucky border on that side of the state, currently live in Cincinnati where I am now I’m more of a tri-state area. I swear that was our town hillbilly crazy Ville, nothing as people who live in that area.
@user-vt4si1ef6r yeah I mean terrible. Best description I can give is imagine a kid that doesn't want to eat their vegetables so they just yell and fight
@@ninomitchell2039 mom and I live with a guy like that for 14 years, I’m just grateful I was either in high school, I went to a kind of boarding school situation, or in college for most of that time. Period. The kicker is the man was a doctor, geriatrician and family practice, he had medical conditions of his own that he would not manage. We could probably talk about this all day long, I feel your pain.
@@HannahSiemer back at you
The fun never stops
I wager most of these people with serious health problems try to leave the hospital because they simply can't afford the bill.
I am not a doctor in fact I was the patient who refused treatment but not for the typical stuff you would think I got mugged by three guys with machetes and had very bad cuts all over my body the worst was on my hand. The Doctor Who is treating me held up a needle full of something to numb it and I told him I would appreciate it if you did not stick me with that needle. And he proceeded to say oh you're be okay and stuck the needle in my hand anyways and injected me with it and few seconds later are punched him in his face and told him to get the H double hockey sticks out of here. He abruptly left the room not even 2 minutes later another doctor came in asked what was going on I explained the situation he told me that doctor should have done that if I asked him not to do it and he proceeded to sew my hand up and then proceeded to sew my leg and my back and my chest up without using anything for pain. The reason why I refused was because the needle and injections whatever ha use to numb it hurts so bad like really really bad. And the numbing agent always wears off within a few minutes anyway so ended up feeling everything. My opinion being sowed up hurts a lot less than being injected with a needle and numbing solution. It always burn so bad and then itches for days.
Okay i thought i was thw only one...i hurt my leg and need treatment, but the numbing stuff really really hurt and itches...that whole spot feeling like it burning and it wore out so fast that i got mad because what was the point...the doctor thought i was on something and i wasn't
That happened in my early 20s. The few times I have needed stitches and one time I needed staples I told the doctor no numbing and they didn't they would did war me that it was going to hurt a lot but it didn't hurt and nowhere near as bad as that darn freaking injection.
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The guy sneezing and having a gallon of fluid and his intestines come out his belly button will haunt my nightmares...
"peeing out of his belly button" i snickered.
I've seen too many people try to leave ama after coming into hospital with chest pain. Our cardiacunit and ER instituted policy to give morphine immediately for the chest pain, then patients couldn't check out on their own because it's considered that they are in altered state of mind and can't give consent. Of course that was 20 years ago. Also had patients comi,g in for rectal bleeding but refuse prep for colonoscopy because enemas and laxatives results are just so inconvenient. Like colon cancer is better?
I sliced my left hand open on a katana and just bandaged it up as there wasn't that much blood, i could move all my fingers/thumb so i knew i hadn't cut the tendon and it wasn't hurting that much. I went to work the next day and they said go to the fucking hospital you idiot. I refused and started my morning preparations (I work with knives in a abattoir funnily enough) by lunchtime my hand had swollen to twice it's size and at that point I reluctantly went to the hospital but not in a ambulance i drove myself there. When I got to A&E I was rushed to surgery where they cut my hand open more to cut out the infected area's and stitch my hand back up. When I woke up I immediately tried to discharge myself however the nurses pleaded with me to stay for 1 night due to the aesthetic as I wasn't allowed to drive. I then called my dad and asked him to pick me and my car up while not mentioning I just had surgery, he came over immediately took 1 look at me and just burst out laughing at my stupidity.
As for the reason I didn't want to go to the hospital 1 was I just didn't think it was that bad initially,
2 i hate hospitals due to a fear of needles and crowded places and,
3 I hate the idea of people wasting time on me even if it's their job
11:45 People who produce videos like that ought to be prosecuted. New laws are needed.
How may would refuse treatment if you didnt go into debt for just the ambulance ride?
ONLY in her early 80s? That's old enough to decide whether or not you've lived enough and want to opt out
2:28 lol.
About the last one... Honestly, same. I didn't know it was a fear other people have, but yeah, the thought of having a colostomy really freaks me out 😨
Yeah, I can understand being uncomfortable with the idea of colostomy, but I’d still think dying painfully would be a bigger concern!
When googling it I found its normally not painful. Seems inconvenient to live with, but still livable and probably much better than the alternative when having it is needed www.healthdirect.gov.au/living-with-a-stoma
That father chose to miss out of most of his son's life just to see a fake graduation from 6th grade? That's messed up. Wherever the dad is now, he regrets that choice.
I can somewhat understand, but priorities, people!
I like happy endings
BP of 250 over 170? Normal is 120 over 80
My husband went in to the ER with blood pressure that high, and numbness in his arm and face, was slurring words, and they released him. I called our primary care provider and he direct admitted my husband and ordered a bunch of tests. Actually had small stroke at age 39.
Curing cancer with Cairo practice? 💀
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I've been dealing with Hodgkin's lymphoma for almost 9 years, diabetic for 10...I take all my meds and do my chemo but the chemo has ruined my heart.
I will admit that meds work but they rarely cure...all over the world organized medicine is an industry, and patients are customers, and a customer cured is a customer lost...
It may be unpopular but I think addicts that od more than once should just be allowed to die...they will just keep going till they fall apart.
Let em die peacefully.
If someone is using hard drugs, they're already dead.
If someone is dealing hard drugs, they're already dead.
The problem is that for someone to sink into those depths of societal and personal dysfunction, they've already collapsed each threshold they could traverse and clawed their way down each wall - each trial of integrity, virtue, and their own life and lives of others - that was ever present to stop them. They don't die peacefully. They die because they've already damaged or destroyed everything they could reach before swirling a caress around their last fix. The vicious mindset around drugs saturates itself with inkous secrecy and alienation, as it is the only environment that can justify its existence.
A former coworker of mine was very clearly a habitual user of hard substances - a wild look in bloodshot eyes, utterly unkempt and smelling of rancid chemicals, gawky motor mannerisms, teeth that appeared like tombstones melting under mats of black mold, and aged skin pockmarked with flayed, open wounds and scarring. I am not gruesomely exaggerating the details. When his inability to regulate social interactions began whittling away at his composure, he stole a significant magnitude of money and bounced. It was a battering experience to be whiplashed between the frustration and relief, because that was the best-case scenario.
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Ok hear me out, after having now watched 4 people in my family go through cancer treatment and die anyway because of the effects of the treatment I can categorically say that if I was diagnosed with cancer no matter what age and my options were death from the cancer or radiation treatments like chemotherapy or radiotherapy then I’ll take sea h by the cancer without hesitation, pain from the cancer can be managed, painful yes but managed. The systematic death of your body because it is dying cell by cell from radiation is far more painful and horrific to me. So yes I would refuse treatment, that being said I am one of those people who if I suspected I had cancer I wouldn’t go to the doctor in the first place, I’d make sure I had my affairs in order and enjoy the time I had left as much as I could.
As someone who’s uncle died from incurable cancer; the cancer isn’t any better than the radiation. Your body is taken over by a foreign entity and it eats you, literally eats away at you. The only way to manage the pain is to pump you full of so many drugs that you can’t say good bye and don’t know where you are. Radiation makes your body fall apart, but gives a chance of recovery. Cancer will eat every part of you that matters until you’re a yellow husk
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I didn't become a nurse/doctor because I can't stand urine, feces and vomit. I'm confident in my choice because of gangrene.
not a doctor but, yeah my family is a mess, my step abused by his parents internalizes his frustrations then takes them out all at once on little things. While my mother not only gets offended over everything, she also holds grudges and is petty. Plus her attitude towards emotions is if you are not willing to listen to her advice then shut up because she doesn't want to hear you whine. She thens whines about multiple things, there's more but my problems as a 31 yr old for 28 yrs I thought all of this was normal due to having no other stable relationships around to judge normalcy. I have other issues but that is my biggest one. Thanks to reddit and tik Tok I get the sense this family isn't normal or healthy but I feel like I should. still sit down with a specialist and have them explain why
10:19,, freaky
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I refuse screenings as they trigger my anorexia which i can die from. Ah no. Ive 12 per cent body fat and have to alter everything. I got a cancer scare in the middle of my weight restoration and that was most upsetting. I am now shredded. I faint easily. Have to eat well or im out. Any extra fat cancer scare. Fat loss back to normal ok. I am very small. Was dealt a bad hand there. Im the size pf a seven year old. Ive a stone of solid muscle. Got smaller even as i gained as i tightened up so much.
Dear Jehovah’s witnesses: from one Christian to another, just take the darn blood. I donate blood. I am giving you my blood. Just take it if you need it.
Yeah, I’d think God would be understanding about doing it to save your life. Plus the restriction is about consuming blood, which doesn’t sound like transfusion.
@@KnakuanaRka precisely.
They aren't Christians. It's a cult.
"I tore that card up a few years ago."
Did they also burn the pieces they tore up to erase all evidence that they were a Jehovah Witness from existence? 🤔
Why would that matter?
@@KnakuanaRka It probably wouldn't 😂
@@samsimington5563 Wouldn’t matter for what?
@@KnakuanaRka Well it's destroyed either way 🤷♂️
@@samsimington5563 Sure; given the reference to erasing all evidence of it from existence, I thought there was some significance to that beyond just symbolically walking away from JW by destroying it.
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OMG! BS of 1000! How was he still alive?
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before i see this... ive refused ambulance service twice. id rather die than have that debt. imagine voting for more people to come here, uninhibited.