@@kablegames2446 What does that have to do with the pricing Microsoft decided for the game? People like owning games, especially on Steam, and the game costs $70 there. By that logic, then Redfall was a success because there were not expectations for it, since it was free on Gamepass.
@@kablegames2446 I hate how that's now an excuse for any criticism of a Xbox game now. "It's going to underperform" "well it's free on game pass" "that game was kinda bad" well it was free on game pass"
Phil seems like a good guy, I do think he cares about his employees more than most other execs. But I don’t have any sympathy for him…like, at all, lol. Dude is still richer than every human I know in real life, combined…times 12, then squared. He’s in a tough position, but it’s also an exceptionally privileged one. Not saying he hasn’t earned it, or that his job is somehow easy, but he’s not mining coal out here, lol. I just don’t see him as a man of the people keeping Microsoft’s corporate greed at bay…if that’s who he really was, he’d have quit a long way back and started his own shop. I just bristle at the idea of him as something separate and apart from “management”…in the final analysis, he’s not there for us or for his employees…he’s there for Microsoft.
When AC Valhalla is the best selling AC game, and one of Ubisoft’s most financially successful games ever the fact that anyone genuinely thinks AC Shadows will underperform is utterly absurd.
If Roger is right, the casting feature would really fix my only problem with Mario Maker 2. Editing levels together with a touch screen while it's on the TV made the first one so special.
If gta 6 is delayed I’ll sub to your patreon but If it’s not you guys have to eat crow, and by eat crow I mean a mandatory 8 person “the crow(2024)” in review.
I’d really like for y’all to each do one of these. It’s not going to be the same at the end of the year with ‘just’ these predictions. Don’t be cowards.
@@Eatfreshguy407 the only thing that might make this hard is that most of them probably didn’t make one nearly as in depth as Rog so now they will have Roger’s influence when creating their own(Fuckin Roger😂). Also, even without Roger’s influence, I’m sure there would be a decent amount of similar ideas which might make having 5 different games casts like these get stale eventually.
I’m surprised nobody at KF knew about George A Romero being connected to the resident evil movie. I knew about this since before the first RE movie came out that George A Romero wrote a screenplay for the film, i read the script in film school, but was fired more or less because his vision was too bleak and dark and not the direction the studio wanted to take the film in so they brought on Paul W.S. Anderson to rewrite the script and direct it
I really don’t think there’s any reason to be skeptical about AC Shadows. I’m honestly surprised you guys think it’ll “underperform” or that it’s not gonna do that well critically.
Greg's assessment of the expectations for avowed are still under the belief that Phil is really still running things, and he's not. Microsoft wants profit.
@@elcapitan2293 expectations and desires aren’t the same thing. Sure Microsoft wants profit but that’s not going to make avowed sell more so it doesn’t make sense to increase expectations simply because of that when we have years of history proving that Xbox games consistently perform poorly. Microsoft will try to get their profit by putting their game on PlayStation 5 and maybe even the switch 2 if it’s powerful enough.
@AvgJon did it make sense to say hi fi rush was a success for months, then try to shut down the studio? And what does any of i said have to do with it coming to ps5? We all know already everything will be on ps5 eventually. That's got nothing to do with my point.
@@elcapitan2293 the whole hifi rush thing didn’t make any sense period. My point is that just because Microsoft wants profit, it doesn’t make sense for them to expect it when they have a track record of not getting it, at least on Xbox + pc, hence their new strategy of just putting games everywhere instead of just exclusively on the “Xbox ecosystem”
I think Rog is really on to something with Switch2 C button as cast. Xenoblade Chronicles X DE really helps that argument. Wondering how they'd make the Wii U second screen features adapt is easy if the Switch 2 can just do that but better. Opens up a lot of possibilities. Super Mario Maker 3 can be the best features of 1 and 2. This is why they held off on those Zelda HD ports. DS and 3DS to NSO (as theorized by y'all) Switch 2 could as Bless said further redeem the sins of WiiU's past and continue to evolve Nintendo's play anywhere ideals. But with XCX slated for May that could mean Switch 2 isn't released until May. Or they already announced XCX because it's not a part of the launch day line up.
It would be nice if sometimes they don't speak all together at the same time, there are parts where for a minute you don't know what is what if you are an audio listener
I'm more optimistic when ig comes to ac shadows. Also I'm not in the Ubisoft is done phase until AC Shadows comes out and if its bad and sells bad. AC is their best selling franchise alongside FarCry and both AC Valhalla and FC6 sold a crap ton. But i will say the experimental Ubisoft days are over like them doing for honor, hyperscape and Immortals Fenyx Rising.
Not sure why lol Ubisoft has done nothing to have anyone be optimistic about them and has consistently disappointed and let their fans down. Holding on to their big player franchise which hasn’t been good in a decade is a stretch
@AccursedHawk again ac Valhalla sold really well and lots of people love it that's why they supported for so long. Also imo shadows does look great and i really like origins and odyssey.
Really hope the mediocre performance of recent Ubisoft titles (and potentially 2025 titles) doesn’t lead to the cancellation of the Prince of Persia and Splinter Cell remakes.
@@Ravelle_ def not bad but they sure are shitting the bed when it comes to supporting it as servers and bugs are still there when they should have been ironed out a month in and now we’re getting this AI bs. If they don’t correct course, it could definitely end up on that bad cod list but at launch and pre season 1, the majority of people were more than happy
Playstation didn't do showcase because they didn't had any banger hitters and playstation is showing games as close as possible. I think playstation will definitely do a showcase this yr with games releasing in next 2 yrs
Greg and bless are so absurdly down on PlayStation and it doesn’t fucking make any sense. They keep putting out good games like helldivers and returnal and god of war and astrobot yet that still doesn’t seem to be enough for them they have to poo poo all over a PlayStation showcase even though I’m with Tim their has only been one “bad” showcase out of 3 great ones.
Returnal was like 4 years ago now. In the last three years, there was only a single showcase, and it was the bad one. Their turn into live service really hurt their output.
It did come off fairly negative, but I think it was more so about how they announce games. Two of their biggest upcoming games, Ghost of Yotei and Intergalactic: The Heretic Prophet, were revealed without a Showcase. I don’t mind as long as we have stuff to look forward to and the end of the PS5 era is shaping up nicely
It would also be highly dependent on AI upscaling. It won’t approach 4K natively, surely. I could see some first party games “faking” their way to that mark at 30fps with some kind of pared down DLSS algorithm, but third party games seems like quite a stretch.
Acting like Xbox buying Bethesda and ABK is a great thing for Phil's resume is hilarious - all he really did was get Satya to sign off on these *enormous* acquisition fees, so that Xbox could buy up these huge companies to compensate for falling so far behind their competition - which occured under Phil's leadership. If anything Xbox probably ceded more ground on the ABK acquisition than they would have liked at first. And of course by now we can see that all these games are coming to all platforms they previously would have anyway. That's great for Microsoft's bottom line - but it's really bad for Xbox as an actual platform
Not that I have any skin in the game, bit acquisitions of that size require ALOT more work than just cutting a check. Particularly that ABK one and the fight to get it past regulators.
Here is my best guess for Nintendo in 2025: Jan - DKCR Feb - Nothing Mar - Xenoblade Chronicles X Definitive Apr - Small eshop thing shown in first Direct of the year. May - Pokemon Legends ZA June - Kirby Planet Robobot Remake July/August - Twilight Princess/Wind Waker Double Pack September - Switch 2 Launch with new 3D Mario Oct - Metroid Prime 4 Nov - Mario Kart -Black Friday game. Dec - Nothing
I think switch 2 will launch in May with 3D Mario and a party game, July Mario kart 9, September MP4, October Botw 4k lol, and November being Pokemon ZaZa since pokemon always like being the winter game
@@vastPickle I wouldn't be mad at having it sooner! I could see Switch 2 launching earlier too, but I think 3D Mario is a lock for September with it being Mario's 40th anniversary. I don't think Nintendo is going to charge for upgrades to the Switch 2.
It's hilarious that no matter what happens, all the controversies and shitty products and services they push and the constant decline in revenue and profits...y'all will still find weird ass ways to glaze Microsoft/Spencer, it's truly astounding.
@@ViciousArcanum I’ll give you controversies because Microsoft is pretty scummy but let’s not pretend like the majority of Xbox games haven’t had good to great ratings in recent history.
@@rogformer don’t listen to the haters, You are killing it. Going from being a community member to where you are today and not to mention your physical transformation. You’re an inspiration to many including myself. Unfortunately though, with such achievements, there will always be those miserable people who will do nothing but pray on your downfall. Just keep doing what you’re doing big dawg.
It’s weird they are so confident that GTAVI is being delayed to 2026
True they aren’t even considering the two year gap from the announcement date to release vs the 1 year plus delay with their past games….
It’s the easy thing to say
Jason Schreier reported as such recently, but it's all speculation
@@luciddre4mJason Schrier doesn’t know anything about rockstars plans he’s just speculating
16:02 Andy almost died 😂
Yeah, we’re back 😂😂😂
They’re going to have to edit the Gamescast intro to have Tim’s mustache
Right before Sabrina Carpenter hits the button she looks at the camera and says “switch it up like Nintendo” and Pharrell’s song pops in
No Housemarque? Returnal came out in 2021. They have to be close to at least showing their new game.
Grand Theft Auto VI isn’t gonna get delayed, they wouldn’t have announced it almost 2 years out & given it a 2025 date if R* weren’t confident.
Yep and the CEO already confirmed to his investors and shareholders that they are releasing in 2025
Jan: This year will be it the year of the Xbox.
Dec: Almost but they are getting there. Next year for sure.
I just really want to see more of Marvel's Wolverine
Roger kinda looks like nosfaratu in the new movie
the mustache really worked on nosferatu in the new one. pleasantly surprised by that choice
Avowed is a $70 game. It's not a "Pentiment level" expectation.
It's free on gamepass
@@kablegames2446 What does that have to do with the pricing Microsoft decided for the game? People like owning games, especially on Steam, and the game costs $70 there. By that logic, then Redfall was a success because there were not expectations for it, since it was free on Gamepass.
@@kablegames2446 "free"
@@kablegames2446 I hate how that's now an excuse for any criticism of a Xbox game now. "It's going to underperform" "well it's free on game pass" "that game was kinda bad" well it was free on game pass"
@josephbonner8553 the game isn't even released
Man I’m just glad you’re all back. Love these big shows where so much of the team is mic
Phil seems like a good guy, I do think he cares about his employees more than most other execs. But I don’t have any sympathy for him…like, at all, lol. Dude is still richer than every human I know in real life, combined…times 12, then squared. He’s in a tough position, but it’s also an exceptionally privileged one. Not saying he hasn’t earned it, or that his job is somehow easy, but he’s not mining coal out here, lol. I just don’t see him as a man of the people keeping Microsoft’s corporate greed at bay…if that’s who he really was, he’d have quit a long way back and started his own shop. I just bristle at the idea of him as something separate and apart from “management”…in the final analysis, he’s not there for us or for his employees…he’s there for Microsoft.
When AC Valhalla is the best selling AC game, and one of Ubisoft’s most financially successful games ever the fact that anyone genuinely thinks AC Shadows will underperform is utterly absurd.
If Roger is right, the casting feature would really fix my only problem with Mario Maker 2. Editing levels together with a touch screen while it's on the TV made the first one so special.
If gta 6 is delayed I’ll sub to your patreon but If it’s not you guys have to eat crow, and by eat crow I mean a mandatory 8 person “the crow(2024)” in review.
Roger was cooking on this one. Some lofty expectations, but I don't think he's too far off with a lot of these. Enjoyed this!
I’d really like for y’all to each do one of these. It’s not going to be the same at the end of the year with ‘just’ these predictions. Don’t be cowards.
@@Eatfreshguy407 the only thing that might make this hard is that most of them probably didn’t make one nearly as in depth as Rog so now they will have Roger’s influence when creating their own(Fuckin Roger😂). Also, even without Roger’s influence, I’m sure there would be a decent amount of similar ideas which might make having 5 different games casts like these get stale eventually.
Mario kart 8 in 4k is beyond amazing. Just playing on an emulator blows my mind.
I’m surprised nobody at KF knew about George A Romero being connected to the resident evil movie. I knew about this since before the first RE movie came out that George A Romero wrote a screenplay for the film, i read the script in film school, but was fired more or less because his vision was too bleak and dark and not the direction the studio wanted to take the film in so they brought on Paul W.S. Anderson to rewrite the script and direct it
I really don’t think there’s any reason to be skeptical about AC Shadows. I’m honestly surprised you guys think it’ll “underperform” or that it’s not gonna do that well critically.
People have let the discourse get to them (i must admit the fact you still can't preorder it digitally [i think] is really weird)
Anyone actually paying attention to the regular gameplay updates they’ve been showing would know that it looks excellent.
As a AC game it will do well. But what they say is no matter how well it does it won't be enough for ubisoft
I cried so much when Andy nearly died, had to replay it a few times 😂😂😂
I know Andy watches the DLS so I would love to see him once go full Stu G.
Greg nooooo as a VA guy we want Pharrell everywhere 😅
You can use Platinum rewards for physical rewards you just pay shipping.
This is KFG Vol. 3, Episode 159 (Episode 643 overall)
Greg's assessment of the expectations for avowed are still under the belief that Phil is really still running things, and he's not. Microsoft wants profit.
@@elcapitan2293 expectations and desires aren’t the same thing. Sure Microsoft wants profit but that’s not going to make avowed sell more so it doesn’t make sense to increase expectations simply because of that when we have years of history proving that Xbox games consistently perform poorly. Microsoft will try to get their profit by putting their game on PlayStation 5 and maybe even the switch 2 if it’s powerful enough.
@AvgJon did it make sense to say hi fi rush was a success for months, then try to shut down the studio? And what does any of i said have to do with it coming to ps5? We all know already everything will be on ps5 eventually. That's got nothing to do with my point.
@@elcapitan2293 the whole hifi rush thing didn’t make any sense period. My point is that just because Microsoft wants profit, it doesn’t make sense for them to expect it when they have a track record of not getting it, at least on Xbox + pc, hence their new strategy of just putting games everywhere instead of just exclusively on the “Xbox ecosystem”
Careful of that ice Andy
I was not expecting to wheez/laugh so hard so early in this podcast lol
doxx cam is hilarious
Switch 2 announcement ad Super Bowl, comes out April
I think Rog is really on to something with Switch2 C button as cast.
Xenoblade Chronicles X DE really helps that argument. Wondering how they'd make the Wii U second screen features adapt is easy if the Switch 2 can just do that but better. Opens up a lot of possibilities. Super Mario Maker 3 can be the best features of 1 and 2. This is why they held off on those Zelda HD ports. DS and 3DS to NSO (as theorized by y'all)
Switch 2 could as Bless said further redeem the sins of WiiU's past and continue to evolve Nintendo's play anywhere ideals.
But with XCX slated for May that could mean Switch 2 isn't released until May. Or they already announced XCX because it's not a part of the launch day line up.
I think we know where the “most replayed” will be on this video. 😂
It would be nice if sometimes they don't speak all together at the same time, there are parts where for a minute you don't know what is what if you are an audio listener
Greg needs to be in a Lego Pharrell movie Piece By Piece in review, Lego In Review?
Really fun episode, great job Roger!
I knew from the start you wouldn't mention kCD2. How will you not talk about it in February when it's a big hit?
So, Roger was born in 1999? I always thought he was older.
Never mind that this means I’m two years older than Roger. 🤯
I'm more optimistic when ig comes to ac shadows. Also I'm not in the Ubisoft is done phase until AC Shadows comes out and if its bad and sells bad. AC is their best selling franchise alongside FarCry and both AC Valhalla and FC6 sold a crap ton. But i will say the experimental Ubisoft days are over like them doing for honor, hyperscape and Immortals Fenyx Rising.
Not sure why lol Ubisoft has done nothing to have anyone be optimistic about them and has consistently disappointed and let their fans down. Holding on to their big player franchise which hasn’t been good in a decade is a stretch
@AccursedHawk again ac Valhalla sold really well and lots of people love it that's why they supported for so long. Also imo shadows does look great and i really like origins and odyssey.
Really hope the mediocre performance of recent Ubisoft titles (and potentially 2025 titles) doesn’t lead to the cancellation of the Prince of Persia and Splinter Cell remakes.
@@Joelio138 agreed
Black Ops 6 is the bad Call of Cuty in books, so in Rogers's thinking we're getting a great one this year.
@@Ravelle_ def not bad but they sure are shitting the bed when it comes to supporting it as servers and bugs are still there when they should have been ironed out a month in and now we’re getting this AI bs. If they don’t correct course, it could definitely end up on that bad cod list but at launch and pre season 1, the majority of people were more than happy
lol predicted Xbox having a bad rpg and Phil Spencer quitting the shade is real 😂
Thank you
I just want Starfield on PlayStation
Playstation didn't do showcase because they didn't had any banger hitters and playstation is showing games as close as possible. I think playstation will definitely do a showcase this yr with games releasing in next 2 yrs
Stand in your truth Greg. I’m sick of seeing Pharrell too.
Not even a mention of Xbox Game Showcase? Where's Parris and Mike Booooo!
16:00
Greg and bless are so absurdly down on PlayStation and it doesn’t fucking make any sense. They keep putting out good games like helldivers and returnal and god of war and astrobot yet that still doesn’t seem to be enough for them they have to poo poo all over a PlayStation showcase even though I’m with Tim their has only been one “bad” showcase out of 3 great ones.
Returnal was like 4 years ago now. In the last three years, there was only a single showcase, and it was the bad one. Their turn into live service really hurt their output.
@@JakeBritton94 they are not that down lol
It did come off fairly negative, but I think it was more so about how they announce games. Two of their biggest upcoming games, Ghost of Yotei and Intergalactic: The Heretic Prophet, were revealed without a Showcase. I don’t mind as long as we have stuff to look forward to and the end of the PS5 era is shaping up nicely
Roger the tastemaker is da goat
The guys are delusional to think Nintendo will use tech from this decade and cast the Switch 2. Bluetooth is new tech for Nintendo.
The switch 2 WILL not do 4k.
There is no world in which a low power handheld can do 4k. The ROG ally cannot and it’s much more powerful.
I'm guessing they're talking about it being 4k when docked
It would also be highly dependent on AI upscaling. It won’t approach 4K natively, surely. I could see some first party games “faking” their way to that mark at 30fps with some kind of pared down DLSS algorithm, but third party games seems like quite a stretch.
Acting like Xbox buying Bethesda and ABK is a great thing for Phil's resume is hilarious - all he really did was get Satya to sign off on these *enormous* acquisition fees, so that Xbox could buy up these huge companies to compensate for falling so far behind their competition - which occured under Phil's leadership.
If anything Xbox probably ceded more ground on the ABK acquisition than they would have liked at first. And of course by now we can see that all these games are coming to all platforms they previously would have anyway. That's great for Microsoft's bottom line - but it's really bad for Xbox as an actual platform
Not that I have any skin in the game, bit acquisitions of that size require ALOT more work than just cutting a check. Particularly that ABK one and the fight to get it past regulators.
Here is my best guess for Nintendo in 2025:
Jan - DKCR
Feb - Nothing
Mar - Xenoblade Chronicles X Definitive
Apr - Small eshop thing shown in first Direct of the year.
May - Pokemon Legends ZA
June - Kirby Planet Robobot Remake
July/August - Twilight Princess/Wind Waker Double Pack
September - Switch 2 Launch with new 3D Mario
Oct - Metroid Prime 4
Nov - Mario Kart -Black Friday game.
Dec - Nothing
I think switch 2 will launch in May with 3D Mario and a party game, July Mario kart 9, September MP4, October Botw 4k lol, and November being Pokemon ZaZa since pokemon always like being the winter game
@@vastPickle I wouldn't be mad at having it sooner! I could see Switch 2 launching earlier too, but I think 3D Mario is a lock for September with it being Mario's 40th anniversary.
I don't think Nintendo is going to charge for upgrades to the Switch 2.
Do we ever get to see assassin's Creed Hex?
Love seeing Roger get more FaceTime. Great mustache.
It's hilarious that no matter what happens, all the controversies and shitty products and services they push and the constant decline in revenue and profits...y'all will still find weird ass ways to glaze Microsoft/Spencer, it's truly astounding.
@@ViciousArcanum I’ll give you controversies because Microsoft is pretty scummy but let’s not pretend like the majority of Xbox games haven’t had good to great ratings in recent history.
I do not think the new Nintendo Console will come out soo soon.
Advertising Avowed as if it’s Skyrim would be a profoundly fucking stupid marketing tactic Roger…
Rog, I love ya, but Xbox is more profitable than it ever has been...and Phil is young and rising within Microsoft still. Greg is more spot on here
Roger really doesn’t like Xbox. His predictions for Xbox were all negative and mentioned every summer showcase except Xbox.
I can see Roger and Tim running KF in the next 5 years
Roger "Xbox Sucks" Damas
I play 90% of my games on Xbox
What a great idea. Love more Roger!
Talking about Pharrell like he some up and coming person tells me this is the wrong group to follow
I think-ah Roger is getting a bit-ah too big timey... ah
You have specifically made fun of my accent multiple times on this channel. I get it, I speak weird. Get a life.
@@rogformer don’t listen to the haters, You are killing it. Going from being a community member to where you are today and not to mention your physical transformation. You’re an inspiration to many including myself. Unfortunately though, with such achievements, there will always be those miserable people who will do nothing but pray on your downfall. Just keep doing what you’re doing big dawg.
@@rogformer dude, you're doing great and I always look forward to when you get to be on mic on any of the shows. Keep it up!