When people talk about Yosemite, but fail to mention the horrendous tragedy of Hetch Hetchy, the valley adjacent to Yosemite that Ansel Adams said was infinitely more diverse and beautiful, that became a giant reservoir to hold San Francisco's drinking and bath water.
Eegore Beaver I totally agree. Hetch Hetchy could and should have been protected. The area lost another impressive valley with waterfalls and streams. So sad what has happened there.
As a Brit 2020 make America SANE again ...God bless America and damn trump please ....we are waiting a best ally Nov 3rd y'all Winston Churchill once said, “You can always count on the Americans to do the right thing after they have tried everything else.”
I lived in Yosemite for 3 years and in El Portal for 8. It was an amazingly beautiful place. My family lived in the ranger neighborhood. We were in a direct line of sight of Yosemite Falls. We had nature’s air conditioner in the summer. We used a fan 3 times in 3 years. I loved it there. It’s a magical area.
When I was a kid I lived in California and instead of going to Disneyland my mom took me to Yosemite where I learned what real beauty was and Disneyland wasn't so cool cause there was so much
About 20 years ago, a Native American friend of mine from KTLA would take my daughter and me to Yosemite quite often. We would stay in the tent cabins and spent the days hiking, skiing and/or rock climbing. Most times we would go to places that most people did not go to. He knew the history of the place. Many a time we went to where the Natives use to live. If you knew what to look for, you could fine traces of the people who once lived there. They will not let you camp there but as I said few people go to that part of the park.
The indian caves were a shuttle bus stop. And attraction. Not any more. There was a circle of rocks .for a gravesite. I moved a rock. My dad said something bad will happen. I moved it back. That circle eventually was scattered. Stones moved around. Over the years
I brake for historical markers. Most historical markers are accurate within 10 miles of where they are placed and some are also somewhat accurate in their interpretations, although nearly all are from the side that of the winning side (if it is a battle marker). Native Americans/First Nation Peoples did manage their landscapes using controlled fires. We all know about their developing corn, beans and squatch as horticulturalists, but few of us know how they also were silviculturists who developed and maintained orchards and groves of trees like white pine in the east which 19th century lumber barons called "virgin old growth timber." The indigenous cultures of the Americas were much more intelligent than our chronocentric ethnocentric culture gives them credit for. Love both of you guys and seeing Ben Mankiewicz being interrupted at home makes him seem even like a regular guy than when he hosts TMC. Peace and love.
@@wubbalubadubdub714 Plains Indians were farmers before the introduction of the horse. Horses weren't around in prehistoric times. They used dugout canoes and bull boats before obtaining horses and following the buffalo. Today Plans Indians drive cars and pickup trucks which do have wheels.
Bigfoot Anthropologist No but dogs were...which they used to pull travois before horses were introduced by Europeans. And canoes have nothing to do with overland travel.
Oh they knew alright, the great buffalo plains should be forest. The single largest ranch humanity has ever created and maintained, so large Europeans thought they were vast tracks of empty grasslands. Also a lot of the rainforest is actually a planted orchard for mesoamerican civilizations of the time as shown by the types and formation of the trees there.
Please share sources….Yes. Indigenous communities actually MANAGED the land. They protected, maybe enhanced, the natural environment. 1491 by Charles C. Mann gives a ton of examples of this.
Next time you head up there check out Clouds Rest, Mt Hoffman, and Mt Dana. All three are amazing dayhikes. Those three are all best this time of year, August to September. Mist Trail is also worth checking out in May and June when the Merced River is roaring from snowmelt.
The Hour of Land by Terry Tempest Williams is a great read about the National Parks and their history but told in a way that's readable and goes into detail from how Native Americans were treated to the politics and funding.... Rockafellers... but it flows in a way that's engaging.
The natives (that didn't assimilate) fought a war and lost... get over it (right?!). Isn't that what we do in this country now(?); erase the history of the losers and try to destroy their monuments...?
My dad sat me down every Saturday afternoon when I was a small girl in the 60´s to watch John Wayne westerns. I never understood why the Indians on horseback were shot down like bounty. I was always rooting for the « Indians ». All the women in the westerns were well endowed like Jane Russell. I could not identify with these fluffs. I remember Jane being tied up to a pole and a cowboy rescuing her. She heaved her chest up and down out of fear of what the natives would do. It was lame. After that scene, the Jane Russell 24 hour girdle was introduced. All moms in the hood had them. It was a norm (as well as wigs). Trust me, I witnessed it as a kid. I am now living according to my values, my principles, my ideas. It’s not easy. I am often lonely, but I prefer this to living a lie. Hang in U.S. of A. Canadians believe in you. Rainbows are coming your way
What a pointlessly stupid comment!!!! So you didn't feel you could match up to the femininity of this "Jane Russell" and in turn internalized a resentment towards those old westerns. Maybe if you changed yourself into a more refined and focused women you wouldn't be so lonely and would have a decent life with a "John Wayne"!!!
My late husband and I went to Yosemite for our honeymoon. I always wanted to take our son there, but now I'm on oxygen and don't know how I could. It's the most beautiful place I have ever seen.
It's easy to say nice things about people after you have exterminated them. Just like there will be monuments/memorials to the 100s of thousands of COVID victims for making the 'sacrifice' for the grandchildren.
So when it became a park the remaining native americans were escorted out to reservations... Or worse. . It's awful but alternatively my moms junior high achool was named after a man who was hell bent on developing Yosemite. Their fate may have been even worse. Now it is protected. The real and cautionary story needs to be told at the interpretive sites. I wish it all went differently but in a way it is a place for all to experience. ..maybe reparations or designated areas for ceremony can be made in some way? Always something difficult to reconsile.
There are 2 Yosemite’s... the native people still own and have lots of rights compared to any of us... they definitely treated them bad but better than almost all other places haha
I am a peak bagger. I have been to the top o half dome, the top of el capitan, the top of mt hamilton and the top of mount dana. My friends and are not big on crowds so we hang out in the eastern end of the park
WOW-never thought I'd see the day!! Been a longtime TYT listener, but saw blind spots consistently where nature, planetary systems, and the vibrant outdoor culture of the Western US is involved. I grew up inner city, now live in the wilds-so happy for Cenk!! USA National Parks-truly our best idea, and from all political parties....
Also this isn’t true at all... Yosemite theatre has a story about how the Indians were killed and sent away from their homes... it’s right next to the museum where they showed a ton of that sad shit
Been there, loved it. That said all land everywhere was stolen from some one else who lived there before the people who now live there. We have more important things to worry about right now.
Wrong to something that's part of my history ,And wrong we stole the natives land from them ,Since I might have famly history going back that far ,Or just a Trump supporter who hates history unless white history .Do got two figured out yet !
That's why finally in Darwin Australia they use the local people to do burn off season as they know how and when to prevent massive bushfires and encourage regeneration
I have always wanted to see El Captain .But I am sure some relatives of mine have , But I've wanted see Yosemite but never have ,And did not know there is some native tribes in the area .So we are are thieves to them .So I feel guilty for what my relatives did back then .
What a dumb "analysis" of what happened in Yosemite. The natives where not these loving, sharing people who just wanted to get along and sing kumbaya while holding hands in a big circle around a bonfire. The Natives did not have the same concept of private land ownership...jeez i'm not gonna go into details. For Christ sake it was a different era. What we find reprehensible behavior today was the norm then. Just like slavery. When the British started to impose navel blockades all over the world to end the slave trade, people from other countries and cultures were like, "wft are you doing?" They were AGAINST the ending of slavery.
I used to work in Yosemite Valley. It was an amazing time of my life. Working and hiking on my days off.
When people talk about Yosemite, but fail to mention the horrendous tragedy of Hetch Hetchy, the valley adjacent to Yosemite that Ansel Adams said was infinitely more diverse and beautiful, that became a giant reservoir to hold San Francisco's drinking and bath water.
Eegore Beaver I totally agree. Hetch Hetchy could and should have been protected. The area lost another impressive valley with waterfalls and streams. So sad what has happened there.
I went to Yosemite last summer, one of the most beautiful places I have ever seen.
As a Brit 2020 make America SANE again ...God bless America and damn trump please ....we are waiting a best ally Nov 3rd y'all
Winston Churchill once said, “You can always count on the Americans to do the right thing after they have tried everything else.”
I lived in Yosemite for 3 years and in El Portal for 8. It was an amazingly beautiful place. My family lived in the ranger neighborhood. We were in a direct line of sight of Yosemite Falls. We had nature’s air conditioner in the summer. We used a fan 3 times in 3 years. I loved it there. It’s a magical area.
Three times? It is beautiful that’s for sure.
Is Yostemite Park anywhere near Yo Semite?
When I was a kid I lived in California and instead of going to Disneyland my mom took me to Yosemite where I learned what real beauty was and Disneyland wasn't so cool cause there was so much
About 20 years ago, a Native American friend of mine from KTLA would take my daughter and me to Yosemite quite often. We would stay in the tent cabins and spent the days hiking, skiing and/or rock climbing. Most times we would go to places that most people did not go to. He knew the history of the place. Many a time we went to where the Natives use to live. If you knew what to look for, you could fine traces of the people who once lived there. They will not let you camp there but as I said few people go to that part of the park.
The indian caves were a shuttle bus stop. And attraction. Not any more. There was a circle of rocks .for a gravesite. I moved a rock. My dad said something bad will happen. I moved it back. That circle eventually was scattered. Stones moved around. Over the years
Omg, I can’t believe how ignorant some people can be. Glad you put the rock back!
I brake for historical markers. Most historical markers are accurate within 10 miles of where they are placed and some are also somewhat accurate in their interpretations, although nearly all are from the side that of the winning side (if it is a battle marker). Native Americans/First Nation Peoples did manage their landscapes using controlled fires. We all know about their developing corn, beans and squatch as horticulturalists, but few of us know how they also were silviculturists who developed and maintained orchards and groves of trees like white pine in the east which 19th century lumber barons called "virgin old growth timber." The indigenous cultures of the Americas were much more intelligent than our chronocentric ethnocentric culture gives them credit for. Love both of you guys and seeing Ben Mankiewicz being interrupted at home makes him seem even like a regular guy than when he hosts TMC. Peace and love.
And yet they hadn’t invented the wheel....fail.
@@wubbalubadubdub714 They used watercraft and rivers were their highways. Few overland routes of travel. No need for wheels.
Bigfoot Anthropologist
Uh huh. Then why did plains indians use a travois to drag cargo overland but not a wheel?
@@wubbalubadubdub714 Plains Indians were farmers before the introduction of the horse. Horses weren't around in prehistoric times. They used dugout canoes and bull boats before obtaining horses and following the buffalo. Today Plans Indians drive cars and pickup trucks which do have wheels.
Bigfoot Anthropologist
No but dogs were...which they used to pull travois before horses were introduced by Europeans. And canoes have nothing to do with overland travel.
when i was stationed in San Diego I took a trip up to Yosemite Falls hike the path up to the top and saw the most amazing sites!!!!!
TYT I m follower but I wanna see more diversity! Thanks!
Oh they knew alright, the great buffalo plains should be forest. The single largest ranch humanity has ever created and maintained, so large Europeans thought they were vast tracks of empty grasslands. Also a lot of the rainforest is actually a planted orchard for mesoamerican civilizations of the time as shown by the types and formation of the trees there.
Please share sources….Yes. Indigenous communities actually MANAGED the land. They protected, maybe enhanced, the natural environment. 1491 by Charles C. Mann gives a ton of examples of this.
@@robertol9235 That book...is my source. Great book.
Edit: If it wasn't in that book it could have been Collapse by Jared Diamon.
Lived & worked there for seven years in the 90s & I moved to Oregon two weeks before the big flood hit the valley.
Next time you head up there check out Clouds Rest, Mt Hoffman, and Mt Dana. All three are amazing dayhikes. Those three are all best this time of year, August to September. Mist Trail is also worth checking out in May and June when the Merced River is roaring from snowmelt.
I love this story! This part of California is amazing, I live in Lone Pine (Paiute-Shoshone).. And finally a lot of our stories are being heard.
Very similar to southern British Columbia terrain,jack pines semi arid crystal clear lakes and water falls,ive been to Yosemite aswell,its beautiful.
Progressives: Europeans stole the land from Native Americans!
Me: Those Natives stole it from other Natives, who they slaughtered and kidnapped.
James D Robertson Figure it out, genius.
I thought it was jellystone.
Thank you for recognizing our (native american) efforts, I'll take an ata boy/girl now.🤪🤓😎
The Hour of Land by Terry Tempest Williams is a great read about the National Parks and their history but told in a way that's readable and goes into detail from how Native Americans were treated to the politics and funding.... Rockafellers... but it flows in a way that's engaging.
The natives (that didn't assimilate) fought a war and lost... get over it (right?!).
Isn't that what we do in this country now(?); erase the history of the losers and try to destroy their monuments...?
My dad sat me down every Saturday afternoon when I was a small girl in the 60´s to watch John Wayne westerns. I never understood why the Indians on horseback were shot down like bounty. I was always rooting for the « Indians ».
All the women in the westerns were well endowed like Jane Russell. I could not identify with these fluffs. I remember Jane being tied up to a pole and a cowboy rescuing her. She heaved her chest up and down out of fear of what the natives would do. It was lame. After that scene, the Jane Russell 24 hour girdle was introduced. All moms in the hood had them. It was a norm (as well as wigs). Trust me, I witnessed it as a kid. I am now living according to my values, my principles, my ideas. It’s not easy. I am often lonely, but I prefer this to living a lie. Hang in U.S. of A. Canadians believe in you. Rainbows are coming your way
What a pointlessly stupid comment!!!! So you didn't feel you could match up to the femininity of this "Jane Russell" and in turn internalized a resentment towards those old westerns. Maybe if you changed yourself into a more refined and focused women you wouldn't be so lonely and would have a decent life with a "John Wayne"!!!
Boo-fvcking-hoo. Shut up.
Mike C
So when you try to call someone out and they expose you as incompetent your go to is to start calling names...typical leftist cowardly trash.
Mike C
Go back to smoking weed and impressing your idiotic friends with your Wikipedia level of understanding. The adults are speaking.
Miss it so much. Can't wait to visit again
Great history lesson 👍
I always thought it was Yo-Semite. You know like the opposite of Anti-Semite.
Cenk... It's YO-- sem-ite
I live here and it’s nice to hear someone who visited was so excited. Trump would never appreciate the beauty of such a place.
My late husband and I went to Yosemite for our honeymoon. I always wanted to take our son there, but now I'm on oxygen and don't know how I could. It's the most beautiful place I have ever seen.
Man I was just there
Yosemite is absolutely beautiful, even during the winter months of snow!!
Has anyone seen Bigfoot? They live and roam freely there!
Native indigenous peoples deserve better.
It's Yo Sea Might
That's so sad. I didn't know this about Yosemite.
I miss Yosemite so much. I used to go every year but now they shut down so many places to stay it’s almost impossible
Whoa! Double Rainbow! What does it mean?
Oprah's going to give us all ice cream!
I always thought before being corrected that it was pronounced like 'Yoh's Mite'.
What's changed? US still doing it on a global scale.
Cenk’s "Bad sound makes good video look bad."
Should visit Bower Cave
Now that ypu know that go watch the official video for Dave Matthews, 'Don't Drink The Water.'
It's easy to say nice things about people after you have exterminated them. Just like there will be monuments/memorials to the 100s of thousands of COVID victims for making the 'sacrifice' for the grandchildren.
Well, it's not like anyone alive today had a hand in colonizing the Americas.
Lol do you really hang out with people who won’t let you appreciate a dang rainbow? Those are some cynical people.
You dont know.never be bullied by urgency.
It will be a shame when the super volcano under Yosemite blows the whole park to ash and lava rocks.
Where is the YOSTEMITE in the thumbnail? Is that near Yo-Semite or Yo-Seminites?
Cenk looks like he's one of the Simpsons.
Fix your lighting!
Ben didn't see the movie.
One should never have to calm down when one sees a rainbow 😆🌈
Imagine being 50 years old the first time you observe the majesty of nature. But seriously, good for Cenk.
Yo there mister Semite. How ya doin?
Cenk would have had an outa body experience if it'd been a double rainbow🌈 🌈
It’s pronounced yo-seh-mite.
Not YosTemite, please check your thumbnail banner.
Yo, Semite, where you think ur goin'?
So when it became a park the remaining native americans were escorted out to reservations... Or worse. . It's awful but alternatively my moms junior high achool was named after a man who was hell bent on developing Yosemite. Their fate may have been even worse. Now it is protected. The real and cautionary story needs to be told at the interpretive sites. I wish it all went differently but in a way it is a place for all to experience. ..maybe reparations or designated areas for ceremony can be made in some way? Always something difficult to reconsile.
There are 2 Yosemite’s... the native people still own and have lots of rights compared to any of us... they definitely treated them bad but better than almost all other places haha
@@austinthrowsstuffthanks!
I am a peak bagger. I have been to the top o half dome, the top of el capitan, the top of mt hamilton and the top of mount dana. My friends and are not big on crowds so we hang out in the eastern end of the park
Those pale face with the lightning sticks, I guess they just wanted it more. So it goes.
Where in Yosemite is this lake?
Tenaya Lake on HWY 120 ;)
WOW-never thought I'd see the day!!
Been a longtime TYT listener, but saw blind spots consistently where nature, planetary systems, and the vibrant outdoor culture of the Western US is involved.
I grew up inner city, now live in the wilds-so happy for Cenk!!
USA National Parks-truly our best idea, and from all political parties....
Also this isn’t true at all... Yosemite theatre has a story about how the Indians were killed and sent away from their homes... it’s right next to the museum where they showed a ton of that sad shit
the natives are still around why they talk about them in the past tense like that...
Been there, loved it.
That said all land everywhere was stolen from some one else who lived there before the people who now live there. We have more important things to worry about right now.
The history of Yosemite is about the fauna, flora, and geography, NOT the people. Get it straight.
You suck and your racist as as well .
@@jonathanbarker1016 No you're a racist.
Wrong
Wrong to something that's part of my history ,And wrong we stole the natives land from them ,Since I might have famly history going back that far ,Or just a Trump supporter who hates history unless white history .Do got two figured out yet !
Yo, Semite!
Yo - Semite. Hope to go some day
Guys, this is common knowledge. There are some assholes who deny it but everyone knows this. WHy this?
It wasn't a triple 🌈 all the way across the sky
Way to keep your carbon footprint down, Chunky.
Yosemite? Or Yo! Semite! Or Yozze-mite?
Teneiya.
That's why finally in Darwin Australia they use the local people to do burn off season as they know how and when to prevent massive bushfires and encourage regeneration
@@generaldissatisfaction5397 haha man you got monsoon mildew if you can't see sarcasm for what it is and that's from a crow eater! 😁😁😁🙊
General Dissatisfaction only if I live my life being crocbait! 😜
General Dissatisfaction why thank you kind person for recognition of one of my many talents! 💋😜👍🏽🤣
H0W MUCH D0 CAN A DIDN'T D0 D0 IF A DIDN'T D0 DIDN'T D0 N0THING?
Ask dumb donald trump
I have always wanted to see El Captain .But I am sure some relatives of mine have , But I've wanted see Yosemite but never have ,And did not know there is some native tribes in the area .So we are are thieves to them .So I feel guilty for what my relatives did back then .
Cenk did a great job at explaining its history but Bens interruptions were annoying and unprofessional
Yostemite -> Yosemite
cenk can't even say it right. it's pronounced yo-seMITE.
bwahahaha I can't remember how to say it either
Disturbing
Not a time to send those signals with the droughts at this time
You should get your “real history” of anything from TYT. I don’t care if it’s the “real history of Cinnamon Toast Crunch.”
Don't like it? LEAVE!
@@TheBlueThird Let him stay. No matter how stupid his comments are, just by making them he's driving TYT metrics and helping them get more exposure.
Bouldering is not hiking Cenk 😂😅
Cenk voted for Donald Trump!
What a dumb "analysis" of what happened in Yosemite. The natives where not these loving, sharing people who just wanted to get along and sing kumbaya while holding hands in a big circle around a bonfire. The Natives did not have the same concept of private land ownership...jeez i'm not gonna go into details. For Christ sake it was a different era. What we find reprehensible behavior today was the norm then. Just like slavery. When the British started to impose navel blockades all over the world to end the slave trade, people from other countries and cultures were like, "wft are you doing?" They were AGAINST the ending of slavery.