12:55 I think that in this situation, the landmarks effects are triggered first and only then the ping from Xerath hits the target. That is, the leftmost landmark is triggered first, followed by the right one, and only then the Xerath ping is triggered, since the landmark destruction is required for the ping, which means the destruction must occur first in the queue and only then cause the corresponding effects. But I agree that it would be more logical if the destruction effects of landmarks were triggered immediately after each of their destruction.
I thought about this with an example situation and I have problems figuring out what would happen. This is the situation: Enemy nexus at 1 hp They have 2 caustic flasks (0/1 ephemeral, last breath: deal 1 to both nexus) Your nexus at 20 hp You have no cards in your deck You have an avarosan sentry on board (2/1 last breath: draw 1) What happens if A) you statikk shot one flask and their nexus (deal 1 to 2 enemies, draw 1) B) you statikk shot both flasks C) you avalanche the board (deal 2 to every unit) I think A is a win, B is a loss and C is a draw, right?
@@Sensei_Emu incorrect, in the situations where you stattick, you draw as part of your card effect in the same action (both nexus died to a single effect, draw). In c, you win, as you do not draw a card and their nexus is destroyed by the cask.
@@Sensei_Emu no. A spell, even if it has multiple action, count as one "action". Let's say pokey stick, it does ping and draw, even if the ping target removed you still draw because it's a separate effect. But both those are count as 1. I think all would end in tie game. But I can't be sure about it. Needs more testing.
This exact situation happened in Snnuy’s first game, except in his favor. Xerath pops out of the hourglass first, the time bomb activates, and only after both of those happen does Xerath ping the wildclaw. Otherwise he would have just pinged the wildclaw once instead of twice, which wouldn’t kill it.
landmarks effects activate first, then all are destroyed at the same time and lastly xerat does the pings, that's why you can have multiple landmarks and a hour glass xerat on the right and xerat pings for all the landmarks even his, (I don't remember exactly when they made the change but it was an update that changed the interactions)
Was thinking what if at the end of each video you would rate the deck like: Chance To Climb, Fun, Difficulty, Overall Score... Like an overall review of the archetype. I enjoy your decks because they are fun to play with but some of them can actually be a bit competitive.
at 6:26 , what would have happened if he had played the 3drop (shepherd?) here ? would the stasis summoning Xerath have caused all the other entombed units to get summoned as well ? edit: question answered a few minutes later in the video :P
On the topic of redeems for deck reviews and 1v1s. I think the only way to do it would be to run it like a lot of other large streams a do, where it’s not a constantly available option and it’s only on certain days that they turn it on. Could be every Friday, once a month, or even once a year.
The interaction against gwen was consistent its the same with the timebomb earlier the bomb aoe procs first and then xerath pings go off after it seems that all the landmark effects will trigger and then all of the pings from xerath go on the stack at the very end
This deck had a 35% wr after this video.... Truly, LoR players are in peak condition, but far have they strayed from the Rockfall path.... We have been lost in obscurity, forgetting how to play the landmarks that once summoned us Tl;Dr this proves LoR never actually had enough landmark players. Continue doing God's work
As someone who hates mono Shurima even more than Azirelia and thinks Xerath level 3 should be hotfix removed from the game, I have to admit landmark combo Xerath is actually kind of sweet, and after watching this video I'll CONSIDER playing a Xerath deck for once
While number 3 looks cool and all with the tuxedo design. Number 2 though looks pretty amazing! Polka dots rock dude Gg! Will you be sharing gauntlet runs and free build when it comes out! Those looks amazingly fun as well!
What a beautiful deck! I think that you got robbed against that Gwen, the order logic was perfect. We can see how the Game gets confused, i mean discount the sarcophagus for the summon FROM ITS DESTROYING is absurd
You were advantaged by how landmarks proc in the first game, and disadvantaged in the second. If it worked like you wanted, the time bomb would have went after Xerath proc'd, leaving them with a damaged 7 power Overwhelm unit, instead of an empty board.
Lucian nerfs are what was really holding this deck back before. Now that he's a 2/1 he dies to timebombs and xerath level 1 ping. Honestly just unplayable at this point
Unrelated, but I've got a question and I don't know where esle to ask. So - when making a deck, there's an option to make a deck with a special deckbuilding ruleset (I have the game translated, so I don't know the proper names) of three regions, but only one copy of each card. And I was immediately like "I gotta do this." when I saw it. But, whenever you save a deck made in such a way, you can't actually pick it and play with it, because it doesn't stand well with the normal deckbuilding rules. And does anyone know what's up with that? Like, if it's there, why isn't it functional? And if it's not meant to be, why is it an option? Or maybe I'm dumb and it somehow works, but I'm doing sth wrong.
I was on runeterra ar and i saw this deck at a 35% wr and i was like why are people playing this wtf?? i then hop on yt and this video is in my recomended LMAO
And I remember someone telling me Ryze is bad ....he needs a nerf how does he have in to the past 5 of them without playing Ryze plus Ionia do I need to explain how frustrating it it to play Ionia
I wouldn't really call him meta. They buffed his yellow stone to refill his spell mana instead of filling 2. The deck has like a 48% win rate and declining. It was good when people were first testing out buffs and nerfs because it was Ionia control with an instant wincon
I dont know if I'm doing it wrong or got bad luck but I honestly do not recommend this deck. I played 10 games just now and lost to 3 fearsome decks, ryze twice, cait-teemo, and Evelyn/Viego. All of this decks are supposedly its good match up and I straight got rolled
yeah same here, i was having a really good time with this deck but the way the ordering works is awful. i wonder if it's actually intended that way or wonky coding
That's what pisses me about the game the most, good players that have even made it to masters like grapplr, snnuy, majiin, don't even know how the game works completely. There are many weird-ass interactions like that in the game. Like viego passive + ephemeral dying "at the end of turn". bs
I never expect Sunny pulling out a box of socks outta nowhere lmao
12:55
I think that in this situation, the landmarks effects are triggered first and only then the ping from Xerath hits the target. That is, the leftmost landmark is triggered first, followed by the right one, and only then the Xerath ping is triggered, since the landmark destruction is required for the ping, which means the destruction must occur first in the queue and only then cause the corresponding effects. But I agree that it would be more logical if the destruction effects of landmarks were triggered immediately after each of their destruction.
I thought about this with an example situation and I have problems figuring out what would happen.
This is the situation:
Enemy nexus at 1 hp
They have 2 caustic flasks (0/1 ephemeral, last breath: deal 1 to both nexus)
Your nexus at 20 hp
You have no cards in your deck
You have an avarosan sentry on board (2/1 last breath: draw 1)
What happens if
A) you statikk shot one flask and their nexus (deal 1 to 2 enemies, draw 1)
B) you statikk shot both flasks
C) you avalanche the board (deal 2 to every unit)
I think A is a win, B is a loss and C is a draw, right?
And that's why Legends of Runeterra is a ruling nightmare
@@Sensei_Emu incorrect, in the situations where you stattick, you draw as part of your card effect in the same action (both nexus died to a single effect, draw). In c, you win, as you do not draw a card and their nexus is destroyed by the cask.
@@Sensei_Emu no. A spell, even if it has multiple action, count as one "action". Let's say pokey stick, it does ping and draw, even if the ping target removed you still draw because it's a separate effect. But both those are count as 1.
I think all would end in tie game. But I can't be sure about it. Needs more testing.
This exact situation happened in Snnuy’s first game, except in his favor.
Xerath pops out of the hourglass first, the time bomb activates, and only after both of those happen does Xerath ping the wildclaw. Otherwise he would have just pinged the wildclaw once instead of twice, which wouldn’t kill it.
Landmark Quietus isn't real, it can't hurt you
Landmark Quietus: 18:20
landmarks effects activate first, then all are destroyed at the same time and lastly xerat does the pings, that's why you can have multiple landmarks and a hour glass xerat on the right and xerat pings for all the landmarks even his, (I don't remember exactly when they made the change but it was an update that changed the interactions)
Was thinking what if at the end of each video you would rate the deck like: Chance To Climb, Fun, Difficulty, Overall Score...
Like an overall review of the archetype. I enjoy your decks because they are fun to play with but some of them can actually be a bit competitive.
at 6:26 , what would have happened if he had played the 3drop (shepherd?) here ? would the stasis summoning Xerath have caused all the other entombed units to get summoned as well ?
edit: question answered a few minutes later in the video :P
sunny and his enthusiasm towards socks
I can really tell how happy you are snnuy every time your play zilean
When Snnuy said "I have something to show you" I literally went "is it more socks?" 🤣 I like 2 btw
The "huh" sound effect kills me every time 😂😂
You should get a Happy Socks Sponsorship Snnuy!
On the topic of redeems for deck reviews and 1v1s. I think the only way to do it would be to run it like a lot of other large streams a do, where it’s not a constantly available option and it’s only on certain days that they turn it on. Could be every Friday, once a month, or even once a year.
Snnuy: "this is not an elusive deck"
also snnuy: "that blocking badgerbear is messing up our game plan"
The interaction against gwen was consistent its the same with the timebomb earlier the bomb aoe procs first and then xerath pings go off after it seems that all the landmark effects will trigger and then all of the pings from xerath go on the stack at the very end
This deck had a 35% wr after this video....
Truly, LoR players are in peak condition, but far have they strayed from the Rockfall path....
We have been lost in obscurity, forgetting how to play the landmarks that once summoned us
Tl;Dr this proves LoR never actually had enough landmark players. Continue doing God's work
As someone who hates mono Shurima even more than Azirelia and thinks Xerath level 3 should be hotfix removed from the game, I have to admit landmark combo Xerath is actually kind of sweet, and after watching this video I'll CONSIDER playing a Xerath deck for once
Snuuy's peak: 8 cost; summon aram and zillean at lv2
I dont play lor anymore but still watching ur video everyday. So entertaining
My takeaway from this video is that if rockfall path were hardcoded to proc last it's playrate would double
I would just like to say that the 3rd pair of socks, the one you put on, also kinda resemble the aroace flag 🧡🤍💙
Snnuy what do you think about fishnet sock
Its so funny watching this live haha, this is how a new meta is created and i love it
Rockwall got slept on by coming out during the Bandle City meta. Everyone forgot it existed.
First all landmark countdowns are triggered left to right, then all landmarks are destroyed left to right👍
this is cancer
is anywhere a web resource, where i could find a card statistic,like frequency play or percentage using in decks on the server?
playing shepard on 6:20 would have resummoned everyone from their entombs one at a time and for this concept of pure bliss I'm playing this deck asap
While number 3 looks cool and all with the tuxedo design. Number 2 though looks pretty amazing! Polka dots rock dude
Gg! Will you be sharing gauntlet runs and free build when it comes out! Those looks amazingly fun as well!
Every time Snnuy posts a video I see his deck on ladder lol
when he put buried in ice if you hourglass+ rockbear shepherd you get all units back next round
What a beautiful deck! I think that you got robbed against that Gwen, the order logic was perfect. We can see how the Game gets confused, i mean discount the sarcophagus for the summon FROM ITS DESTROYING is absurd
Very nice explenation at the start snnuy. You deserve golden star ⭐
Socks counting and unboxing while playing LoR. This is what I call "Quality content". 😌👍
Love the new intros!
You were advantaged by how landmarks proc in the first game, and disadvantaged in the second.
If it worked like you wanted, the time bomb would have went after Xerath proc'd, leaving them with a damaged 7 power Overwhelm unit, instead of an empty board.
Alright, Snnuy
You conviced me to play this thing
Surprised sunny hasn't made a Risen Reckoner printer deck with soul cleave.
didnt they change the "left to right" thing to a "attack token all at once, then no attack token all at once" thing?
Lucian nerfs are what was really holding this deck back before. Now that he's a 2/1 he dies to timebombs and xerath level 1 ping. Honestly just unplayable at this point
5:09 WTF?! estonian socks??
xerath should deal dmg to the nexus if there is no ennemies, maybe 2 instead of 3 so it's not to strong.
But level up ziggs already do that
Unrelated, but I've got a question and I don't know where esle to ask.
So - when making a deck, there's an option to make a deck with a special deckbuilding ruleset (I have the game translated, so I don't know the proper names) of three regions, but only one copy of each card. And I was immediately like "I gotta do this." when I saw it. But, whenever you save a deck made in such a way, you can't actually pick it and play with it, because it doesn't stand well with the normal deckbuilding rules.
And does anyone know what's up with that? Like, if it's there, why isn't it functional? And if it's not meant to be, why is it an option? Or maybe I'm dumb and it somehow works, but I'm doing sth wrong.
you have to tick the box next to the rule setting
@@peschionator7873 I'm pretty sure I've done that like 10 times over and it just doesn't seem to carry over after I leave deckbuilding.
@@yvaskhmir I feel like you try to play the deck outside of the appropriate gauntlet
@@peschionator7873 SO I AM THE IDIOT. I KNEW IT!
Another "counter" for Ryze is the "destroy all landmarks" form Frejlord. And it also works with buried in ice combo.
4 mana deny > 8 mana unit
I was on runeterra ar and i saw this deck at a 35% wr and i was like
why are people playing this wtf??
i then hop on yt and this video is in my recomended LMAO
Ryze should absolutely be playable, one of the few real control decks. But he’s brought cancer Fearsome spam into the meta so that sucks.
Intro is perfection
And I remember someone telling me Ryze is bad ....he needs a nerf how does he have in to the past 5 of them without playing Ryze plus Ionia do I need to explain how frustrating it it to play Ionia
Finally another Xerath Zilean, its been so long since the last one
Wait, Ryze is now meta ? What am i miss just doesn't get in the game for 3 days 😨
I wouldn't really call him meta. They buffed his yellow stone to refill his spell mana instead of filling 2. The deck has like a 48% win rate and declining. It was good when people were first testing out buffs and nerfs because it was Ionia control with an instant wincon
i watch you to see what im going to be playing against for the next few days
19:05 neurons ACTIVATED.
I really recommend the Zilean Xerath with Bandle City, Arsenal is by far the most enjoyable finisher I ever played. Great deck as always.
We all know this Deck though, it’s still powerful
The master of printer confirmed
I been playing Xerath Zilean before it was cool.
Holy, that heimer otk is insanato
I dont know if I'm doing it wrong or got bad luck but I honestly do not recommend this deck. I played 10 games just now and lost to 3 fearsome decks, ryze twice, cait-teemo, and Evelyn/Viego. All of this decks are supposedly its good match up and I straight got rolled
YOOO I GOT WHAT I ASKED LETS GO NEW TIMEBOMB PRINTER (srsly snnuy you are amazing)
Alright...this is one of my favorite decks you've ever built, but the order of operations between Xerath and Rockfall Path ruins everything dude 😥
yeah same here, i was having a really good time with this deck but the way the ordering works is awful. i wonder if it's actually intended that way or wonky coding
This is a Zilean / Xerath deck? No, no. This is a Chip deck.
You were ROBBED in game 2 also, Snnuy did a feet reveal with socks on XD NEXT STOP, Only fans.
A deck to counter ryze... Maybe its just me but i dont see a ryze deck 1 month a go.
I like third the most too
I beat this deck with poro😐
That's what pisses me about the game the most, good players that have even made it to masters like grapplr, snnuy, majiin, don't even know how the game works completely. There are many weird-ass interactions like that in the game. Like viego passive + ephemeral dying "at the end of turn". bs
sooooooooocks
First? :D
so this is a glorified controlled deck huh you shan't fool me to playing controlled ill shall be a mid-ranger for the rest of my life if i have to