Judo - Goshin Jutsu no Kata Demonstration - Tokyo Budokan Reopening Events
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- Опубліковано 15 сер 2012
- Japanese Budo Demonstration for the Tokyo Budokan on August 11, 2012.
Judo - Goshinjutsu no Kata - Takeshi Takeda (6 Dan - Kodokan) & Junichi Miyazaki (6 Dan - Kodokan)
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This goes out to those who say "there are no striking/kicking techniques in Judo"!
Es que no las hay, esto es Goshin-Jutsu.
Everyone saying this is more like aikido doesn't understand the foundation of judo or aikido. They both are built upon the principles of jujitsu.
King Alfred correct from the tree jiu jitsu .
It is more like Aikido, because it is literally Aikido that was repurposed for Judo practice.
Agreed that it's all from Japanese Jujutsu, though.
@@slamdeathmetal1 No no.. Jujitsu comes from Judo..
@goggles789 Aikido is using strikes during opening moves to force the attacker to lose balance. Look for example at Katatori Ikkyo - ua-cam.com/video/uJJNUuxAOAc/v-deo.html
@goggles789 Nishio and Shin Shin Toitsu as well as Yoshinkan use striking as opening moves.
Finally a real form of Judo it’s got to be the true form of kodokan
The essence of Jiu-jitsu!
parabéns pelo excelente qualidade dos vídeos ótimo conteúdo para aperfeiçoar os conhecimentos dos judocas
Beautiful !
Vraiment très bien et très instructif, merci pour cette vidéo que j'ai sauvegardée dans mes favoris
MUCHAS GRACIAS GRANDES MAESTROS . UN HONOR Y UN PLACER .
Es un Kata de Judo de defensa personal que se pide a los Cinturones Negros cuando se examinan para 3 o 4 DAN. Y son movimientos aparentemente sencillos que contienen la esencia de la defensa personal. Ante todo mis respetos a estos dos Grandes Maestros que nos han hecho la demostración y a todas las Artes Marciales en general.
jose luis Moral por esa razón la gente no entiende que este tipo de cosa solo funciona si sos un cinturón negro con extensivo conocimiento sobre el judo en general. Muchas gente miran esto y dicen ahh esto parece mucho mas facil que el judo de deporte o que esto no funciona.
Ademas esta mas cerca de la concepción del Jujitsu, Kenji Tomimi funador del Estilo Aikido Tomiki ayudo bastante a crear esta kata, por eso las proyecciones se hacen desde el Kote Gaeshi, fue discipulo de Kano y Ueshiba siendo 8 Dan tanto de Judo como de Aiki Budo (Aikido antes de ser Do)
Pues deberían de ser combates como en Judo o Kárate, no coreografías como hacen en todos los entrenamientos también, todos sabemos que sin sparring no hay nada efectivo.
@@AlejandroCab98Si nunca a echo sparring ya puede ser un cinturón...Que sea! No sabe si lo que hace es efectivo.
Beautiful
It is so sad that the rich self-defense aspect of judo is so neglected these days.
Nobody does this anymore in Judo cause this stuff only works if your opponent lets you do it to him. For self defense, just train Judo hard, compete in judo regular, and in a few years if anyone puts there hands on you they are going for a ride...
I tend to agree. For the kinds of "self-defense" situations the average person might find themselves in, a rigorous competitive background in Judo (and the conditioning & experience against resisting opponents that comes with it) would almost certainly serve one better than occasionally practicing choreographed knife disarms against an obliging faux assailant. The latter are... um, "optimistic" to say the least. That's not to say there's not a place for these Goshin techniques, but one can hardly blame people for focusing on the sportive aspects of Judo even for self-defense.
Sports judo can fuck up people and its actually very much usable under preassure
@@k9m42 This Kata Assumes that both men have on suits of Armor, Samurai, thus explaining their odd movements. The kata is used to preserve the origins of the Judo grappling style out of respect for history and culture in general. Jigora Kano found them important, so I would imagine that the are.
This entire UFC mentality is based on a Clan of Frauds who stole Koshen Judo and called it "Graci Juijitsu"
The Kata is preserving history nothing more. Show a little respect
@@k9m42 I believe the same, the basics are there, no matter the rules if I get in close and do Osoto Gari the bad guy is not getting up-
A técnica dos japoneses é a melhor, sem dúvidas!!!!
guara firmino ainda acho que para se defender Karate supera judô
It's not Karate. It's judo and this kata came from Atemi Waza. Jigoro Kano himself was an especialist on Atemi.
This kata is from the late 1950s and was developed by the a Aikido guy who founded Shodokan Aikido,it has nothing to do with Kano, but was added to Judo in the 1950s..
I was talking about the atemi itself. Jigoro Kano made Kime No Kata wich includes atemi too. I know Tomiki was part of the staff who made Goshin Jutsu no Kata. There are other non official self defense katas.
Well, it does have something to do with Kano. That particular aikido guy who founded Shodokan Aikido was Kenji Tomiki, who was one of Kano sensei's top students. It was when Morihei Ueshiba (O-sensei, the founder of aikido) brought his new art to show his good friend Jigoro Kano in a demonstration, Kano was so impressed that he assigned Tomiki to go and study this new art. Tomiki was already a well-established judoka but fell in love with the new aikijutsu (soon to be changed to aikido). Tomiki was O-sensei's first great student; first to be certified as Menkyo Kaiden and later first to be awareded 8th dan when aikido switched from koryu to dan ranking. Tomiki brought Kano's pedagogical style to aikido, and Tomiki brought some of aikido's influence back to judo with his Goshin Jutsu no Kata - now an established part of the higher dan curriculum in Kodokan Judo. Tomiki was 8th dan in both judo and aikido, having studied under both founders. Tomiki brought a lot to aikido, but this comment is already too long...
Robert Mayer what an authoritative answer!!! 👏🏾
Robert Mayer what an authoritative answer!!! 👏🏾
As devised by Kenji Tomiki 8th Dan Judo 9th Dan Aikido, founder of Tomiki or Shodokan Aikido....
L' arte della difesa personale o dell'autodifesa così come è stata ordinata è codificata dal Kodokan di Tokyo. È il più moderno dei sistemi di protezione formulata secondo i principi fondamentali del JUDO.
Looks a bit more like Aikido than Judo. Especially the kotogaiesh during one of the knife attacks. Anyway, it's good to see a demonstration of Judo as an actual self-defense/ Martial art again. Too much emphasis has been placed on the sport aspect of the art and it's devastating martial skills seem to have been all but ignored. Good post.
According to Wikipedia, it does indeed have aikido influences - "It incorporates techniques from aikido through the influence of Kenji Tomiki": en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kodokan_Goshin_Jutsu
Of no doubt I have to agree about the influences. Aiki power is also part of Judo. One Judoka I trained with for a bit described it this way. " Judo is harder on the body than this, (Aikido)." All of the Japanese grappling arts are based in practical, useable, and devastating defenses against an armed attacker, (usually with a sword). It was good to see Judo being used for what it was designed for.
Elio Lopez This kata came from Aikijujutsu techniques.
I did not know that, though I do know all of the Japanese grappling/ throwing arts are related in one way or another.
I am Aikidoka and that's why I noted that. Yes we use these techniques. Thanks for the information on the history of the kata. I did not know that it was that closely related.
that younger dude seems to always be winning!
GENIALES!!!!!
Nice, still have problems with gun and knife techniques.
muy bueno
No entiendo porqué hacen coreografías en vez de combates como en Kárate o Judo, ya que se compone de las dos.
I like some of them better than others.
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Lovely Tomiki aikido beautiful and well executed. Very classical a good based to work from ..you can see the roots of the Tomiki judo/aikido hybrid .. you don't see it so much in modern Tomiki it's all a bit crap really . But 30 yrs ago when I started training Tomiki. Judo aspect was massive loads of what we called "sacrifice throws " and non stop randori .. great training. It sad to see the state of it now .
This isn't Tomiki Aikido, are you kidding?
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I think this could be a form of karate known as shorin ryu with judo elements
W il goshin jutsu!
This is not Aikido for those who do not know any better. This is 100 percent Judo and Jujutsu!, Judo or Jujutsu will beat Aikido any time, any place, any where!
O' Sensei studied Kodokan Judo in 1907 as well as various forms of Jujitsu, Kenjitsu. In 1920, when he created his first Martial Art, borrowing elements from the various Martial Arts, he was an Expert in, thus his own style was born. His Martial Art evolved, leading to the changing of its name due to his Spiritual Enlightenment, Personal loss/gains as well as Martial Art expertise. It was only in 1945, post WWII, when the Allied forces banned all Martial Arts in Japan, that O' Sensei, being the Genius he was, took out most of the deadly techniques from Aikido and the Start of the Aiki Foundation that Aikido was the "only" Martial Art that the Allied Forces allowed to be practiced in Japan...O' Sensei was a forward thinking man, who was not only a Martial Artist, but was also a Japanese Military Warrior... There are many Aikido Dojo around the world that Practice Combat Aikido that are quite deadly; putting techniques back into the Art, that were taken out. The Great Teacher, believed that Aikido Martial Art, should evolve with time and situation(his life experiences speaks to this); whether its soft Aikido or Hardcore Aikido. In 1960s, when Morihei Ueshiba sent his student around the world to teach Aikido, O' Sensei was very much aware his Martial Art would evolve, because that is what he wanted for Aikido and his Son who took over his fathers Legacy, also agreed, that his father wanted Aikido not to remain static...We now live in a crazy, deadly world and Aikido will evolve to meet those challenges...
@@JaDe-eh1wp Do you have any sources to back up your claims? Because your comment is full of approximations.
First of all, the name Aikido has nothing to do with Ueshiba. It comes from Minoru Hirai, and the reasons for the change in name are quite unclear, are certainly unrelated to Ueshiba's beliefs.
Second, Aikido didn't change overnight so it could be re-authorized by the SCAP. Aikido wasn't the first Budo to be reauthorized. And Ueshiba wasn't teaching much at the Hombu Dojo at that time anyway, so he didn't care much about what the SCAP would or would not allow. Kisshomaru Ueshiba, being the genius he was, did care quite a lot on the other hand.
It is rather strange to qualify a "Japanese military warrior" as a "forward-thinking man".
Ueshiba was actually not a progressist, at all. Although his beliefs were clearly related to some forms of peace and harmony, let's remember that he hosted ultra nationalists groups meeting, being himself involved with groups such as the Sakura-kai.
In the 60's, Kisshomaru Ueshiba sent many Aikido teachers abroad, not much regarding the Aikido international expansion can be attributed to Ueshiba Morihei.
In the end, what you attribute to Morihei Ueshiba is mostly what his son Kisshomaru Ueshiba did so I would recommend reading a bit of Aikido History from trustworthy sources in order to forge yourself a more accurate vision of History.
As about the world being crazy, probably. Deadly, not so sure: www.ted.com/talks/steven_pinker_on_the_myth_of_violence
Actually I did read various sources, I never take one source, and I do have real books in my Library; being a University Graduate and a 2nd Kyu, under the style Aiki-Bushido and My Sensei's, Teacher trained under Ueshiba....
I believe the Martial Artist you say created Aikido, I had read through sources that Hirai met Ueshiba and discovered both their Martial Arts had "similarities"(circular motions). Yet, Japan Recognized Ueshiba as the Founder of Aikido, so I suggest you take your fight to Japan...hmmm
In fact, at this discovery of similarities, Hirai began studying under O' Sensei and borrowed from O' Sensei Sword training, when he created his Style...hmmm.
Also, you need to study what the Allied Forces were doing in Post War II Japan. I am a US Army Veteran, so I know what I read during my training. ALL Martial Arts were banned, and no Japanese organization or otherwise had any authority to allowed any Martial Art to be taught, unless the Occupation Forces said so...the USA did drop bombs in Japan and the Japanese Surrendered and these Allied Forces controlled that region after the War...Universally known history!!!
Thus Morihei Ueshiba Style of Martial Art, Aikido was the "only" Martial Art Approved by the Occupying Forces to be taught in Post WWII Japan, naturally others followed...Sounds to me, you hate the Military so much, you refused to accept who were calling the shots in Japan, so much that you Hate Ueshiba for being in the Military, defending his country during the Russo-Japanese War: That's the Russian Empire - Empire of Japan War....Historical Fact
The forward thinking Man comes from the fact, he removed the deadly movements out of Aikido, because the Allied Forces saw all Japanese Martial Art as Dangerous, which lead to "HIS" Aikido Style being allowed by the "Occupation Forces" to be taught in Post WWII Japan...Look up the historical facts on this. I did my research, now you do yours...
Next, Buddhism speaks of Harmony, circular, not staying the same, always changing; reaching a higher plain; these are Buddhist philosophical ideals that Morihei envisioned during the creation of his Martial Art Style and what it takes to enter "Aikido Flow" in this Martial Art...
Aikido power comes from the Circular motion (Physics) and ensuring your mind is clear of crap. When I step on the mat, during practice and focus/not focus, release my mind of everything and perform a technique or series of techniques on Uke, this is the point I know I have reached Ki; the smallest movement, speed, quickness, breathing naturally, no anxiety, no anger or hatred, being one with all things throughout the Technique(s), while in this zone. This is what Buddhism attempts to teach... This is what the Masters of a Martial Art are made of...This is what a true Martial Artist strives for in his or her studies, anything less does not produce a Master Level Martial Artist...
Sounds to me, there is a lack of understanding in Japanese Martial Arts in Japan and how a Student eventually becomes a Master; if there was a true understanding, the question of What does Buddhism has to do with Aikido, would have never been an issue...hmmm
Try studying Ice Skating and you would see, the tremendous force that comes within the "Spin". The more you stay on that one point during the spin; this is the point of energy and power. Thus, the movement of Aikido, in the shape of Infinite...That's a number 8, laying on it's side, just in case you didn't know. The strength of your Uke and Nage is met in the center of the figure 8, like in the Spin of the Ice Skater. No matter if it's a same side grab or cross hand grap, the circulation motion of energy and strength, goes in the motion of infinite. Circular as taught in Buddhism...Power stuff when taught with Physics...
The Great Teacher was Awarded: 1960: Medal of Honor(Purple Ribbon)(Contribution), 1962: Order of the Rising Sun(Founder of Aikido), and 1968: The Sacred Treasure:(Life time Achievements) All given by the Japanese Government and O' Sensei was still alive at the time these were given......................You can look these awards up because all recipients are listed....
Therefore, I have wasted enough time on this issue because my next Aikido Promotion is in two days and your messing with my Ki...
Miyamoto Musashi, Book of Five Rings: A true Martial Artist studies various Disciplines, because various disciplines go hand and hand, eg...Buddhism and Physics on circular motion
Peace and Harmony
@@JaDe-eh1wp You must not be aware that:
1. I have been training at the Hombu Dojo for about 15 years.
2. I have a university degree in Japanese culture and studies with a specialty in Japanese religions. And a background in applied science.
3. I fluently read and speak Japanese.
4. I have worked with several Aikido History researcher, I collaborate with Aikido Journal, Guillaume Erard, and many others.
5. I have read Ueshiba's conferences, and I have formally worked on their interpretation based on known History, Buddhism and Shintoism (including Omoto) concepts.
6. My academic background, my hobbies, and my job are all focused on Budo studies.
Being a veteran and having a few books in your library doesn't make you knowledgeable, nor your 2nd Kyu gives you any credibility/legitimacy to argue your points without any sources or well-designed argumentation.
As academics often say, an opinion is an opinion. You are entitled to your own opinion, but it doesn't make it the truth.
I'm not going to deconstruct your argumentation, there are too many preconceived ideas, false affirmations, and misinterpretations.
The only thing that can help with your case is to read reliable sources with an open mind and be willing to accept that historical facts and truth might not be what you imagine/believe it is. Until you accept this approach, there's nothing anyone can do to help.
And you should start with Bennett's research on the occupation and relations between the SCAP and Budo practice because it's actually the only research published from an actual academic research (one who live, teach, and publish his research in Japanese, in Japan). Because if your knowledge of History is limited to the fact Japan lost the war and was occupied... you have much to learn about what precisely happened during that time (and especially that outside of major cities, Budo training never really stopped... the ban having had about no effect on private dojos activities outside of a few cities, and especially not in Iwama, where the founder trained every day with no break).
And then, you can move on to Musashi's definitive translation by... Bennett, that just released today. Because referring to Musashi when talking about Budo, and especially about Aikido, is at best off topic, at worse completely misguided.
No, it's not. I have a blue belt in BJJ and I did Judo and you would be laughed at if you tried this fake shit in either.
Note gud
Der richtige Name der Kata wäre Kodokan Goshin Jutsu Kata.
we can beat um, BRO
Very nice to see this, because the self defense aspect of judo is extremely rare to see. Red white belts are the highest ranking members. Nevertheless, knife and pistol techniques are not realistic in my point of view.
A friend and I were talking about goofy stuff that's in kata, and I was like, "There's a judo kata with a gun in it" He didn't believe me because it's so outside of the box.
Un poco paquetes.
Ummm, this doesn't look like any form of Judo I've ever seen. However, some of those movements look very much like some of the movements I've done in Jujutsu!
Vaughan MacEgan it's not Judo it Ju Jutsu. Judo is derived from this? As my Sensei once said, Judo is Ju Jutsu but with all the best bits taken out!!
Are you referring to Brazilian jujitsu?.
Judo is a form of jujutsu. You don't recognize this stuff as judo because nobody is teaching it these days.
Yeah, actually judo is a form of jujutsu. In was derived from two jujutsu forms, tenjinshinyo and kito ryu, and was recognized by the Japanese as a type of jujutsu. In fact, it was widely known as Kano jujutsu into the 1920s.
This was Aikido (which came from Japanese Jujutsu) that was repurposed by Kenji Tomiki in 1956, to make Judo more well rounded for self defense (weapons defenses, etc)
Judo comes from Japanese Jujutsu. Aikido comes from Japanese Jujutsu. All of this is Japanese Jujutsu, in a way.
合気道やんｗｗｗ
eso no es judo es karate goju ryu.
Judo tiene una parte de defensa personal y en ese aspecto todos los artes japoneses fluyen bien.
Eso es judo 🥋 auténtico
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