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Americans Moving to Portugal 🇵🇹 Step-By-Step Process (2020) | Expats Everywhere
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- Опубліковано 13 сер 2020
- Josh and Kalie from ExpatsEverywhere have been stuck in The United States due to Covid-19 and the travel bans. Things are easing up and they are finally able work on their documents to move to Portugal. They vlog along the way to share their journey with everyone to see how it's done.
In this vlog, they are on their daily walk (well, try to be daily walk if the weather allows) and discuss what they have been doing. They didn't need to drive all around town this time because so much was done online. They had to get medical insurance where they compared Insured Nomads and Cigna. They talk about how much money they have to spend on that and when it needs to start for them to get their visas. They also breakdown booking flights and how cheap flights are right now, especially with them being flexible on days and locations. Watch to see how much they ended up spending! Lastly, they touch on things to come, like trying to find accommodations in Portugal and how they are doing that, plus more things on their long checklist. Join the journey with them to see how the move goes and what all you will need if you are considering a move to Portugal!
We're building out a playlist for this "Moving to Portugal" journey. You can check out more episodes here: • 3 Month Journey to Por...
Stay tuned to see them check things off the rest of their checklist and see if they make it to Portugal in October as they have planned!
Here's the website Josh and Kalie are using and referred to in the video:
www.vfsglobal.com/Portugal/US...
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Thank you so much Kalie and Josh for making these videos. It’s extremely helpful and has excellent information. Hope to live in Portugal someday. Truly appreciate all your dedicated hard work. Beautiful good looking family. 😀
Thank you 🙏 we appreciate the love and support. Our most recent video wasn’t as informative but it was fun to shoot. 😋 - Josh & Kalie
Thank you for including the date in your videos. It makes it real time :)
MarcoPolo you’re welcome. We’re a little behind on uploads because we have the core videos for the channel that need to go out but we will get caught up very soon. New video drops today.
How ya doing from Wellington Florida! :) Thank you for all that you are doing giving us step by step process will make things extremely easier for anyone who is ready to go to Portugal.
You are so welcome! We're glad to help. You saw that we made our journey from Longwood, FL to Miami and then out.
Our response to creating these video and people commenting and email that we should make a course is that we created a video course that's step by step with timelines and all so if you'd like me to pass you that link, let us know. - Josh & Kalie
We are honored to serve you!!!! 🛫
Insured Nomads it was a great experience. 🙏-Josh and Kalie
Thank you! I’ve been following “our rich journey” on UA-cam and they talk about the same thing. Awesome to see more info on it.
@@TonyCook7 You're welcome.
Flights to Lisboa in the summer are expensive. October and November, you get better deals.
Nevin and I are loving the step by step. Thanks! ~Jen
Hey Jen! Y'all are binge watching and commenting. We love it!! 😍 - Josh & Kalie
Big thank you Kalie and Josh!! I appreciate it 🙏
Ruth Lyons You’re welcome! 🤩 - Josh & Kalie
Your videos are wonderful ! So easy to follow as we contemplate our decision. A million thanks You are a beautiful family!
Thank you so much! We have to admit some of the videos in this serious are better than others in terms of information, entertainment, production quality and so on. We're fairly new at vlogging and trying to improve each episode. Thanks for watching and commenting. If you have any questions, please let us know. - Josh & Kalie
PS-We've "continued" the series in a "Living in Portugal" playlist.
Hello guys from Tampa, Fl. Just found your channel and are loving the step by step videos. We are seriously thinking about moving to Portugal.
Hi, that's Kalie's hometown! We're glad to have you here, Keila. We have a lot of videos now on our move to Portugal and what it's like living in Portugal. Let us know if you need any help. Thanks for subscribing. - Josh & Kalie
Hi Kali and Josh I just want to let you know I so much appreciate your logs there so informative and with my husband I trying to move there as well it gives me great insight to all the questions I have your so thorough and I just love both your personalities so thank you so much and keep it up looking forward to the next one thank you Ruth
Hi Ruth! Thank you so much. We really appreciate the support. We know some of our vlogs haven't been all information, but we're glad that you don't mind us showing our personalities on here. :-) Our last vlog was more of that, but the next one is a Q & A that we'll have ready for next week! Thanks for the public subscription. It's cool to see that red icon next to your name. Let us know if you and her husband need any more info as you make your move to Portugal - Josh & Kalie
I’m from Luxembourg and I’m 24 years old and for the last few months I’ve been thinking about to move to Portugal but I’m scared because of the changes.. btw I’ve already have family and friends there, I just need to find work which will be probably the hardest part.. but I miss Portugal 🥺
Can you talk about Living and Feel Porto? Why you use them/what they do? Can you share links to the websites?
GREAT IDEA!!! We don't have a ton to talk about but we'll definitely do that because (a) you asked ;-) (b) if you asked, maybe others would be interested and (c) we actually did have a decent amount of dialogue with them about their properties. We found the companies through idealista, which we have given that link but we haven't visited Liiiving and Feel Porto's websites as we started to correspond directly with them after shortlisting their listings. Thanks for the idea, Gisselle! We appreciate it. - Josh & Kalie
I'm in Tampa.Plan to retire early in 2022 to Spain or Portugal.Went to Madrid & Lisbon march 2019.I loved it and I speak spanish. Native new yorker with Puerto rican parents.
Awesome stuff! Kalie is from the Tampa area. Thanks for watching and commenting. We have lived in Madrid btw - Josh & Kalie
@@ExpatsEverywhere thanks.your vids are helpful learning the process I have to make soon. I have short travel vids on my channel.
Yankees Fan Adventures You’re welcome. Awesome, glad you find them helpful. We’ll check out what you’ve got.
If you guys can explain a step by step - like telling us all the start up costs it took a bit to understand what the insurance was for.
Hi Jen, you can email Kalie for a checklist if you'd like. We've also since created a course that lays it out in video format. The insurance is a required part of the visa application and only one specific thing is required, but we wanted something to cover us for the whole year. Our insurance won't be everyone else's insurance. Insurance is easily one of the most variable costs that you'll come across. Kalie's email is info@expatsverywhere.com - Josh & Kalie
Did you guys send anything over in a shipping container ? I’m trying to find a quote for a small 20ft container from newark to portugal. I’m debating if it’s even worth it or not
I'm glad to find you, we are planning a trip to scout our early retirement in portugal soon. I want to know if the concert happened!
Hi Kelli! Great to hear from you. Thank's for reaching out. The concert was rescheduled and Kalie got a refund because she "couldn't" go. 😁 - Josh & Kalie
Can anyone give me a ballpark figure of how much it’ll cost to move household goods abroad?
Is 3700usd a month enough to live there comfortably
Just started viewing and am planning a move to Portugal. I am a US citizen and have had to cancel a trip both in March and July. Everyone who wants to move there seems a bit confused on all the things needed to be done and especially the timing of these. I am very interested in your journey. But I have a question not only you but another couple from the US is planning a trip in October. I am under the impression the the EU has closed the borders to US citizens. TAP airline canceled my tickets in July for that reason. Do you have dual citizenship?
Thanks for joining in, Scott. According to the most updated information, people with legal right to be in Portugal will be allowed in. So, yes, EU was not accepting tourist back then, which is probably why TAP canceled your ticket. Something we're currently clarifying is the COVID testing requirements because we're not flying TAP but we're flying Air France and they don't seem to have any pre-flight requirements unlike TAP. We are not dual citizens, but we will be traveling there with a long-term residence visa assuming that gets approved.- Josh & Kalie
Are you saying that you need to have 6 months of housing paid ahead of arrival, as part of the visa application or would a lease agreement with first and last month deposit suffice?
Hi Mindy, you don't need your housing paid for in full but you do need a housing contract, which in general you'll need to put down deposits to get that contract. Does that help? Some things have changed since this vlog was produced. The big processes are the same but details can be different. Email Kalie at info@expatseverywhere.com if you have any questions after watching the series. - Josh
Hi Kalie and Josh, I want to buy some property in Portugal and will be there in a few weeks. Can you recommend a realtor in Lisbon? Grateful for any assistance. Love your videos!
Hi, email me at contact@expatseverywhere.com and I can pass some names along. - Josh & Kalie
Did you have to begin your travel insurance as soon as you did? Could you have done it just before you submitted your packet to VFS and possibly saved some euros?
In theory it needs to be active when you submit your package or with travel coverage long enough to get you to your immigration appointment, which happens after moving to Portugal. We're preparing a video about how we switched from an international to a local plan since moving here. It's in the edit room now. 😁 - Josh & Kalie
Thank you so much for making this series
I’m trying to move to Portugal next year to be with my partner, and figuring everything out alone has been tough.
So did you have to buy a round ticket for the application? Because I agreed in your first video that I don’t want to leave if I’m planning to stay? 😂
Hey, Catt's Corner! First off, we'd like to say that you're not alone so don't worry. Second, thank you for watching, commenting, and thanking us. :-)
We talk about this in a later video. In the end, we found out directly from the Embassy contact that we did not need to buy a round-trip ticket, however, Kalie wanted to come back to the States in hopes of seeing that concert (cue Josh's eye roll). We're not sure why it was a thing on the requirements list but we made it clear to them that we wanted to find that out because it made no sense and we + our audience wanted to know.
We'd love to have you as a subscriber and for you to get caught up to speed on how the whole process has been for us. We're actually putting out our first living in Portugal video today where we give you an apartment tour! If you're not ready to see our apartment, get caught up to speed first, and then watch. - Josh & Kalie
@@ExpatsEverywhere that’s so exciting!! I can’t wait to watch once I’ve caught up! Thank you for your reply
Cheers! Exciting indeed. Keep us posted on how you get on with the videos. Be in the comment section, we'll be looking for you. - Josh & Kalie
Hi guys, please forgive me if this has been asked and answered. I’m a list type person too. Is there somewhere you have posted your list? It would be great to use as a jumping of point.
My husband and I are planning on retiring for a bit in Portugal and are coming in September 2021 to scout areas. Thanks for the video’s, they are very informative, quick and to the point. Just my style!
No worries, Timothy. Just shoot us an email with the title Checklist and we'll share it with you.
We're really glad you like the videos and find them informative. - Josh & Kalie
Uh, foreshadowing?! Something big is happening in April/May?! You can't leave us hanging like that!! 😜
Samantha Fromme yup, we will see. CoVid has not been kind to planning but we’ll see what happens. Doesn’t everyone love a good cliffhanger?-Josh and Kalie
@@ExpatsEverywhere Ahhh! You're killing us. 😫😃
Samantha Fromme 😅 sorry.
How did you ship all your personal stuff like furniture sewing machine Dishes Etc .
😁We didn't ship anything. We've done that once in our expat journey and just decided to pare down and never do it again. - Josh & Kalie
Can you tell me if you could have just purchased travel insurance rather than health insurance? I have been looking at the requirements too but from what I'm reading its travel not health that is needed to get there
The Ministry of Foreign affairs states “valid travel insurance, allowing medical coverage, including medical emergencies and repatriation.” We used Insured Nomads for it and we have a robust international plan that would cover us while traveling. It takes some time to get into the system in Portugal. You won’t just land here and be eligible to apply for their healthcare coverage so we weighed that up. You can talk to Insured Nomads about it though and they can find a plan that’s right for you. We’ll get you a link that you can use. If anything, just start the conversation with them to see what your options are to find something that fits you and your needs. That’s what we did and we went with proper international health insurance. Travel insurance link: inomads.io/EE-travel and international health insurance link: inomads.io/EE-Health-Ins Here's a video with Andrew (Insured Nomads) where he talks about the difference between the two products ua-cam.com/video/xlGaQjOjxy4/v-deo.html
Wow, I didn’t think it was possible during this time. Is there any restrictions now?
There have been some restrictions since June of 2020 or so due to covid, but getting a residence visa like the D7 is the main thing you need to travel during this time. Soon-ish traveling to Portugal for tourism will open up again but there will be strings attached. - Josh & Kalie
So for your family, what is the monthly cost for health insurance through “insured nomads”? Maybe I missed it somewhere, sorry if I did.
I think I said it in there some where, but it's all good (we love answering your all's comments). We paid a little over €500/month for all 3 of us. You can certainly pay less, but we felt like it was kind of middle of the road for how healthy we are, but we defintely wanted international coverage with the way we travel.-Josh and Kalie
We have been planning our move to Portugalfor over two years, and are delayed primarily due to the ban on US citizens traveling to the EU. I see you have been working through the processes, though... how are you able to set travel plans without having the ability to know you can travel on specific dates, even with a D7?
Good question. Americans with valid visas are allowed to travel to the EU. We will not be traveling there as tourists, which are currently banned, but we will be traveling as people legally allowed to live/be in the country. Also, it's our understand that Americans that are residence of countries not banned from entry into the EU are still allowed to travel. Our recommendation is to check with VFS Global about your eligibility for whatever visa your attempting to get to move to Portugal. Thanks for the question and following our journey. The next episodes drop Tuesday and Thursday this week.-Josh and Kalie
Did you end up going to the concert, Kalie?
AWESOME question! The answer is, no. 😁 Josh didn't think so. We're now touring Portugal to create content for you guys. - Josh & Kalie
Great video guys!! What do you guys do for money to keep you going?
Thanks!! At the time, we were both doing digital/remote jobs before it was a bigger thing because of covid. Kalie works in compliance and I was in data entry. Then...UA-cam took over. 😂 It was either go full-time into UA-cam or drown in work on both ends. 😅 - Josh & Kalie
Hi Where did you guys eventually choose to live? Cost? Did rental costs drop due to covid or is that just a myth? Thx for the amazing videos👍🏼
Mirelle Dsouza Hi. Thanks for the comment. Glad you like the videos.
We still haven’t moved yet but our flight is next week. We’re going to be in Porto. Our apartment is €900/month. We could have gotten something cheaper but we feel comfortable with that price. Regarding a drop, we’ve actually seen a few properties that we had been tracking go up! Not sure why because if it didn’t rent at €850 why is it going to rent at €950? But hey, that could be an inventory thing. We’ve had several locals write that they’ve noticed an influx of people moving to Lisbon and Porto.
We hope that you subscribe and continue to follow us on this journey. - Josh & Kalie
Hi guys, to reach the visa requirements, do you need to buy 6 mths or 1 year of health insurance? Also, 150 euro per month is for one person or for one family? Thanks.
9degreas we are paying month by month on our yearly international insurance policy as we just needed proof of insurance. €500 for our family of three. Check out @insurednomads and enter your details and you’ll get a quote with different excess/deductibles. That way, you’ll be able to get an idea of how much it’ll cost for you. We checked out Cigna and it was going to be €550-575 for the three of us per month.-Josh and Kalie
@@ExpatsEverywhere Is that the insurance you will keep once established in Portugal?
@@Retired_Stig Thanks for the question. Yes, we'll keep it because we plan on traveling (once Covid allows) and the plan we have will allow for that rather than being tied to a domestic plan.
Who is watching in April 2021? How about the concert?
They've postponed the concert til 2022 same general dates. Otherwise, the concert would have been tomorrow! 😔 - Kalie
Hi, Paula here. We just found your channel and love it. My wife and I have been planning a move to Porto for almost three years. We’re mostly waiting for my wife to be vested in her pension. I’ll move into semi-retirement and continue working remotely part time.
We first visited Portugal three years ago and took two weeks exploring various cities we might want to live in. We’re from Texas (Austin) and our impression was Lisbon had a Dallas vibe and Porto had an Austin vibe. We also considered Coimbra and Aveiro but absolutely fell in love with Porto.
I have a question about insurance. My understanding is once we get through SEP and have our residency cards then we can access the same National healthcare in Portugal as citizens. Is this correct? So we only need insurance to cover us through getting past SEP. Is that right?
Hi Paula, thanks for the kind comment! How's everything in Texas right now? Are y'all okay? 🙏
Regarding your comment, we have the same understanding. We can now apply for the national healthcare. Our personal situation is different because we thought we would be traveling more. We'll see what things are link in 6 months and make a decision on what to do with our insurance moving forward. - Josh & Kalie
@@ExpatsEverywhere Thanks Josh and Kalie. We’ve been lucky so far. We live relatively close to a hospital and therefore are on a more protected part of the grid and haven’t lost power. We have been keeping the thermostat low to conserve energy to help reduce load on the grid. We hosted a neighbor for a few days until his power came back on.
We have water but just a trickle and we’re on a boil water notice which will probably last for at least a few days.
We’re pretty frustrated at the lack of attention paid to infrastructure and now politicians blaming clean energy. We’re glad that Portugal is taking aggressive action regarding climate change.
Fun fact. The all time low temperature ever recorded in Porto is 26 degrees Fahrenheit.
Looking forward to more of your excellent and helpful videos.
@@paulabuls5802 wayta pitch in and help your neighbors. We love hearing that.
The whole thing sounds pretty intense. This winter has been unseasonably cold it seems.
We look forward to bringing more videos for viewers like you. - Josh & Kalie
No idea if you will see this since I am commenting a year later. My husband and I are also living in Austin and seriously considering a move to Portugal. Did y'all ever make the jump?
@@daedge304 Hi Sam. We are knee deep in the jump even as we speak. We had been planning for a few years but waiting for my wife to be vested in her pension. We’re at that point now. On February 5 we put our home on the market. It sold that weekend. We’ll be moving into a three month air BnB soon and then we’ll focus on getting our visas. Our plan is to be in Porto about The beginning of July.
Im about to take your course. Do you cover children as well? I'm taking my son with me
We don't directly cover children but it's pretty straightforward claiming them on a the D7 or remote worker visa. - Josh & Kalie
@@ExpatsEverywhere i am taking your course now- do you need an nif for each child and yourself or adults only? Thanks
Can you make it in Portugal if you only speak English?
By in large, yes. The Portuguese have high levels of English fluency although we do recommend learning the language when you get here. - Josh & Kalie
I now live in San Franciso and am planning to buy a place in property for my retirement. I do love the look of Porto and being alone, I would like to ask which part of the city would you recommend that is safe and has easy access to transportation and necessary amenities like groceries or medical facilities. I love my place now because even though I am in the city, I am a but far from the hubbub and can walk or ride the bus to wherever I would like to go. Thanks!
Great question! We would avoid Ribeira & Sé and a pocket of housing between Plaça Republica and the university. Bonfim has a lower pace of life out of the hubbub as you put it 😁 and certain part of Boavista are quite nice and will have more amenities than Boavista. Up further north near Hospital Sao Joao could be a great option too as there's a little more space, good medical facilities, and a direct line to the city center. - Josh & Kalie
@@ExpatsEverywhere Thank you so much and I hope you are safe and well!
@@bencruzsf you’re welcome. We’re into real estate and are going to be doing a series called Property Hunt Portugal where we take a look at different properties. We have one episode so far and another one shot that’s about rentals that we’re editing now. There are a lot of restrictions right now with this stay at home order so it’ll take us until after that finishes to shoot more. Let us know what you think of that episode. 🙏 Stay safe and have a good week. - Josh & Kalie
@@ExpatsEverywhere Oh that would be very helpful! Can you give me some tips about Lisbon areas also? A friend told me that Porto is very pretty but really small while Lisbon is a bit more cosmopolitan and diverse.
@@bencruzsf We're not as familiar with the granular side of Lisbon so we'd rather not comment. What we can say is that the size of Porto is all relative to what you want out of the city and what you're used to. Kalie and I love how walkable it is and we walk with Valencia pretty much everywhere, which gives us a chance to see the city at a slower pace. During normal times, there's plenty to do, but Porto doesn't get the international musical acts like Lisbon. One thing that's under-rated that you've heard us talk about is how nice Porto people are compared to Lisbon people. Another things to consider is the cost of living is higher in Lisbon, but if you've got the $$ then that's not as much of a factor. Connectivity, Porto has an international airport that's well connected and easy to access. Lisbon has better connection to the US for direct flights, but beyond that, we'd rate them almost the same. - Josh & Kalie
For apartments in Porto also check out NomadX nomadx.com/listings?city=porto
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Where can I get a copy of your check list?
Email us at expatseverywhere@gmail.com and tell us what checklist you want. We have several.
We've sent you a response with the checklist and it keeps bouncing back. Error message says the address is unable to receive mail? Weird, we know. If you have a different email address, let us know and we'll get that checklist to you. - Josh & Kalie
The moving to Portugal check list is what I'm looking for. I received your computer generated reply message so I don't know why my email isn't working for you. 😔
@@annettemcguire2068 🤔 Not sure, we sent it and it bounced back.
@@annettemcguire2068 we just tried resending it.
As a long term crypto investor I have decided to immigrate to Portugal. Thanks for the content. It’s only a matter of time until crypto gains will be taxed at 39% if you are in the upper tax bracket. Subbing now
Do you really need that annoying background music?
Sorry, we're learning. At that point it was very early in our vlogging experiment. Thanks for the feedback - Josh & Kalie