Another joke:
Erich Honecker receives a gold watch for his birthday that he is very
fond of. He even keeps it under his pillow when he goes to bed. One day,
while at the office, Erich realizes that he is missing his watch. In a
panic, he calls Erich Mielke and tells him that
someone has stolen his watch. Later, he realizes he left it under his
pillow, and being relieved, calls Mielke to tell him to cancel the
investigation. Mielke responds "Too late, we've arrested three suspects
and they've confessed everything!"
Must be a variation of the joke about Stalin's pen, featuring Mielke instead of Beria. In the original, the pen goes missing after Stalin receives a delegation from Georgia.
That poor Unter Leutnant didn't knew if he should cry or laugh at the end.
The guy making the joke actually never manages to climb up in the Stasi hierarchy. When Wiesler is degraded and ends up opening letters, that guy is working in the same department as well (he announces the opening of the Berlin Wall).
Lucky for him. In reality he would have gone to jail after losing his job.
Später war er im Keller, Briefe aufdampfen.
Das ist doch das, was die Abteilung M gemacht hat.
Postkontrolle. Er hat ihn nicht gemeldet.
@@Nico-gt3mg Naja, aber er ist offensichtlich mind. 5 Jahre lang nicht befördert worden und noch immer beim Briefe Aufdampfen gesessen. Also doch ...
@@Nico-gt3mg Er sagt ja, dass er ihm nicht sagen muss, was das für seine Karriere bedeutet. Der war 5 Jahre später immer noch dort und wurde nicht befördert.
German language is so expressive. This movie is a great film. I love a final scene. I do not remember exactly, because I watched the movie in Russian. "Is this book for a gift? NO IT IS FOR ME". Bravo! Bravo, German people!
Man merkt wirklich, wie Wiesler erkennt, was für einen Menschen er gegenüber hat. Und wie er seine Ideale verraten sieht.
Tolle Besetzung, erstklassig!
Axel Stiegler was NOT demoted to opening letters.
"When Grubitz is questioning Stigler, Stigler mentions that he works for "Department M." At the end of the movie, while Dreyman is going through his file, he sees a note that Wiesler was likewise relegated to Department M as well. In reality, then, what appears to have happened is that Stigler, as a junior officer, already performed the same low-ranking work, and Wiesler was simply given the same work when he was stripped of his authority."
Stiegler was a junior officer in the same department Wiesler got demoted to.
Which means that the Lieutenant Colonel DID NOT rat him out.
Which should be obvious to anyone who saw the last 30 seconds of this clip.
@mamuburaa Yes, I think the standard interpretation is that Grubitz threatened to demote Stiegler, then said he was just joking, then did it anyway (probably in more a subtle and gradual way than he had originally threatened). That was certainly how I interpreted it when I noticed Stiegler's presence the first time I saw the film. Maybe it is meant to indicate that he never rose from a low level rather than that he was demoted to one, but certainly his presence in that scene was no accident.
@@derkuhschubser6488 Five years later - yes - I correct myself. According to the writer, he was indeed demoted.
he says aufhängen, neu wählen.
its a play on words.
neuwählen can mean
vote again(in politics) or dial again(phone)
an aufhängen means hang up(lynch or end a call)
so it fits for both, the phone and the
politican
This movie should have won Best Picture at the Oscars, just as Parasite did. It was far better than anything Hollywood put out that year.
It won the best foreign film. But you're right - it should've won the best film.. period. And I'm not even German. I'm Indian.
Absolutely. I loved the actor too. He played the character exactly right. A moral man in an immoral system.
It calls for great subtlety of acting.
It's far better than anything Hollywood puts out most years. And that's not a knock on Hollywood. It's just a really, really good film.
The Joy that Gublitz takes at emotionally torturing Stiegler and the ability at a whim to destroy someone's life for a public thought crime. The deeper irony is that everyone at the table has done the same thing at some point in their life. Then, Gublitz tells a joke publically that an underling would be punished for. It just illustrates the capricious nature of life in the DDR.
Name, Dienstgrad, Abteilung?
It's hilarious because the guy ends up opening cards in a basement.
Could Herr Stiegler be a little more careless?
I loved this movie. I was really sad when I found out that Ulrich Mühe died. He was an excellent actor who portrayed an excellent character.
Great clip from a superb film: without doubt one the most mesmeric I have seen.
In the English subtitle script, in the salutation, there is always missing the "Genosse" / "Comrade", f.e. in 1:42 "Bitte Genosse Oberstleutnant", "Please Comrade Lieutenant Colonel" or "der Genosse Generalsekretär", "the Comrade General Secretary" a.s.o., so much circumstance must be.
Best joke ever!!! I've been waiting so long for someone to post it!!LOL
Den Film haben wir bei der Schulberlinfahrt gesehen, ich mag ihn voll.
Ich hoffe du weißt heute immer noch zu was Sozialismus /Kommunismus führt. Grüße
Sagte der Lehrer damals, dass es leider überlieferten solchen Fall gab, dass ein Stasi Offizier die Maschinerie sabotiert hätte?
"....Uh-huh-huh, ja! Huh-huh - .....NAME?!...."
@@HANSMKAMP Stiegler knew he was toast as soon as Grubitz told him to tell the joke.
@ElBloeTigre: On the surface it appears shallow. But if you understand the German, there are some double meanings. Basically in the second joke, he was saying that the leader should be hanged, and the people should vote again to get a new leader.
I played Herr Grubitz when we acted out some scenes in this film for our German class, It was fun.
When Grubitz tells his lesser joke the whole cafeteria laughs.
The Tony Soprano of the DDR...
German Wings 9925 and world record of plane crashes to murder witnesses of what they did to me.
Iv'e been in the old stasi headquarters in berlin. On the wall in one of the rooms where the big boss ran the show there was a world map which only showed East germany and nothing else. During the days of the DDR if you had relatives that worked for the state or were in the military you were not allowed to leave the country. I was there in 2004. I also toured the main stasi prison complexses. "The lives of Others" is a great film to watch on this era
When Grubitz erupted in a room-filling laughter, was the moment when decorum went out the window. It was as if to assure the subordinates listening, not just Stiegler "See? We mock them too! You're not the only ones here bored to death!" And the subtle nod and toast with his drink at the end for the candid rapport that probably livened an otherwise drab work day to me looked like a brief glimpse of Grubitz's sympathetic side
i think this movie is accurate in so many ways...these kind of people were all a bunch of cynics, narrow minded and vain. a low form of humans. they only knew to provoke, threat and use violence.
Kind of like life in the USA today. (All Americans are equal, but some Americans are more equal than others)...
Excellent scene. They could not laugh at their leaders.
When I watched this I completely thought he was being serious then at the end of the movie....
I was just watching this movie. It surprises me that even the Lieutenants hated it to live in Gdr. He did it only for his job, he also hated authoritarianism
priests or peace activists. Then, later in the movie when Wiesler decides to 'downscale the operation' and have Udo taken off the case Grubitz sighs, thinks for a minute and says 'well there is this church case that I could use him for', thats brilliant, subtle comedy.
Ich arbeite in meinem Büro genauso wie Stiegler. In meinem Büro gibt es auch sog. "Stasi".
Natürlich auch ein Top Schauspieler.Wenn ich das so sagen darf,hat echt schöne Augen und eine Ausstrahlung 🌡❄🔥Nixe nur in seinen Filmen!
EXACTLY
He was sitting right behing Weisler, no? That's what I thought.
@TheCat86 Yeah thats good alright, he ends up 'in a cellar hole opening mail!', :P. As it happens Stiegler is from Department 'M' (as he says in this clip, then, later in the movie when Dreymann is looking through his record and reads the part about Wiesler being demoted and moved to other duties its suggested he's moved to 'Department M'.
Another quirky piece was Udo (the agent helping Wiesler) whom said he much preferred monitoring artists as there was more 'dak dak dak'......:P over
Der Sonnenwitz ist genial, denn kannte ich noch nicht, als ich den Flm gesehen habe. :D
I love this movie very much...It touched me really and I found it very tragic but this Honecker Joke is great! My friend and I still quote it sometimes and have to laugh always :D
its not possible to translate the second joke about the telephone...it can be understood only in german
Its a metaphor for execution.
Hanging up a telephone is the same thing as hanging a person for betrayal.
Hang up the person, and on to the next one.
1:18 Name? Dienstgrad? Abteilung? :D
I also believe those other 3 guys sitting at the same table eating lunch were put into trouble for not being vigilant enough and report his anti-government attitude to their supervisor. They would have been put into more scrutiny and evaluation with any promotion suspended for 1-2 years.
I have seen the movie in my language (italian) and it is really beautiful
the Colonel is not joking, he is really a bastard!
You must mean 0:44-0:46, when he says "Gutmorgen lieber Sonne!" - I love that as well :-)
That guy Grubitz is a real bastard but dammit he is funny!
UA-cam is showing me the best film I haven't seen yet. I saw on other user that the guy who tells the joke is the one who is on lower jobs as he hears about the fall of the wall. The beatuty of this. I need to see it now. Blockbuster will help me.
Great film!
The final stare of Wiesler says " oh yeah? I got all your Facebooks, even Yours my friend"
I suppose the Sun dared to say that because it was on Nov 9th, 1989.
Incase you think this comment is completly random and insane, it isn't. It is a response to eldunno73's observation that the joke teller appears again at the end.
Despite being an oppressive regime the canteen looks nice and they're allowed to drink beer
While it's not part of the clip, the set up before this is that Hauptmann (portrayed by Ulrich Mühe) already concerned about the direction of his service, pressured his superior, Grubitz (portrayed by Ulrich Tukur) - the one cracking on Stiegler - to sit at a table normally used by junior personnel.
The fact that such separation exists further highlights the hypocrisy of the system in which Hauptmann - the once true believer, by this point in the film doubting - finds himself in.
All true, but have to point ouht that Hauptmann is only a rank, the name of the "Hauptmann" (sergeant) is wiesler
@freeuganda aah, so it make sense....but in the Italian version he tells a different joke : "What's the difference between DDR and China? None, both of them have the great Wall"
Das ist echt ne gelungen Szene in diesem Film.
der ist echt echt gut!!!!!!
es zeigt wie es damals war!
und der schluß zeigt ein ende wie es auch statt gefunden hatt!
50000* (wenns möglich währe XD)
Why'd you translate the name "Axel" as Alex?
How insane would you have to be to tell that joke in that place?
Guten Abend...
Charly und 110 Kollegin Anika🎬(hat übrigens ne geile Lache) sind voll abgegangen beim Wackenkonzert🔊🎸🎛🎤!!!Sowas von cool ✌
Ulrich Mühe is dead?!
That's really sad
I came here o laugh about this nice joke (and learn a bit, cuz' there's more thing in this joke that I didn't know that make it funnier), but now I'm really sad... :(((
''hang up, try again''
Is it the joke that is actually kind of simple and lame or it's something that couldn't be faithfully translated??
If anybody is still interested: the joke is, that the word "(neu) wählen" can have different meanings. In one case it means, to use a number on a teleohone and in another way it means, to vote for someone during a election. So the joke means "hang him and elect the next one"
The dial on old phones are called Wählscheibe. To dial the number means "Die Nummer wählen".
So when you dial once again, it means "neu wählen", as he said.
"Wählen" has a second meaning in german: To vote.
So you hang up, and dial/vote again.
It literally only works in german.
@TheCat86 Actually that's what makes it sad
I am not a German, I am Dutch. What you are saying will hurt most of the former East-Germans. Erich Honecker and Ulbricht gave 28 years of Wall.
From Vietnam :)
And banana from Cuba too.
Poor kid. And this is dead on.
I don't get the second one.
Their president wont listen to them. They have to "hang up" and try again later.
0.44 - Did Honecker actually sound like the Major's impression?
Heute wieder Alltag.
He picked probably the most absolute worst place to be telling political jokes. Obviously this guy was not bright enough to be Stasi
Ich schon, aber ich hab trotzdem total gelacht xD
Die Sonne scheint nicht.
what are they eating and drinking. Look like potato soup and apple juice
Unrealistic, cause why would he tell the joke in that environment in the first place. If at all he would be whispering.
@TheCat86
that's right that was him :)
1:48
German in near future again be like
Fucking hilarious joke xDD
@GreatGrumbledook The whole film makes you thank God you live under Democracy!
isn't it obvious... by THEM... THE ALIENS
@TheCat86 That's what he was already doing, actually.
film nicht gesehen? tip: ansehen, aufs ende warten, hintergrund beobachten, nachdenken wer hier wen verarscht hat. ;)
the other guy looks mean and angry
Das Leben der Anderen in italian? nice =)
i don't know why english speaking people always want to read subtitles - i wouldn't - so if the translation of the movie is well done, why not? in germany we usually dub movies either, doesn't matter if they are english or italian.
i think in this case that colonel was really only joking.. but it shows the reality of what was possible. and many were imprisoned because of nothingness..
thank god there is no DDR (or GDR) anymore, but one, our, germany
Regarding subtitles, it is very helpful for hearing impaired people. Most of us gradually lose our hearing as we age, while some people were never able to hear from the beginning. Occasionally there are noisy people in the movie theater, and their noise prevents me from understanding some of the conversation. So having subtitles includes more people, allowing them to completely enjoy the film. It also allows us who understand some German to hear the original language, giving an opportunity for us to improve our language skills by seeing and hearing at the same time. This helps our brains learn to recognize and understand more words in the future. Also, some people have auditory processing challenges, and it is very helpful for them to have subtitles, regardless of how good their hearing is. Having two languages as an option in one film makes the film work well for a larger population, and is very good as a tool to help students of either language expand their comprehension.
Because of these reasons, I much prefer the ability to hear the original language, and to have the subtitles in my own language; but vice -versa would be ok as well. This way I can choose where to focus. I can stop reading the subtitles if I want to just listen and look at the picture, to see how much I understand. This way, it’s my choice.
Ich habe es wohl gesehen. Die Szene bringt mir ein slechtes Gefühl. Der Junge was total itimidiert... Aber Das Leben der Anderen ist ein sehr gutes Film!
@DXFoley Das ist nicht immer der Fall. Neben Das Leben der Anderen, habe ich mehrere gute Deutsche Filme gesehen. Ein davon ist Der Untergang.
It‘s not even half as funny if you don‘t understand German and read the subs. It‘s just too different then
@fewoberlin das ist er auch =)
sehr lustig XD
@freeuganda snt this this: neu wählen meaning to choose a new victim? xD
like, lynch one and choose new victim :P
Ich versteh den sinn der szene nicht so ganz. wenn der offizier am ende nicht gelacht hätte dann wäre es schockierender und wirkungsvoller gewesen, aber so sagt die szene einfach nur aus, dass auch stasi-leute spaß verstehen oder sowas ähnliches.
Ich glaube, es geht hier um Macht. "Ich kann Deine Laufbahn ruinieren, es mir aber in letzter Minute anders überlegen und dann selbst verbotene Witze erzählen. Und niemand stellt mich dann zur Rede.". Besser kann man absolute Macht nicht zeigen.
Warum verhalten sich die nicht normal obwohl sie unter Beobachtung stehen? Seeya
@fewoberlin
Stimmt ! sehr schön aber mit viel wehmut :(
I hate that director... (that made this film)
Great video! 5 stars (but as a typical-western-hypocrit joke.)
2:12 Ich versteh den Witz nicht kann mir den jemand erklären?
Früher sagte man wohl auch zum “Auflegen” des (analogen) Telefonhörers “Aufhängen”, was wohl durch die ersten Telefone entstanden ist, die an der Wand hingen, da hängte am den Hörer dran auf und wenn die Verbindung nicht zustande kam, wählte man eben neu. Der Witz hier soll sein, dass man Honecker “aufhängen” soll und einen neuen Mann wählen sollte. Manche Witze verlieren eben durch den technischen Fortschritt ihre Pointe.
the USA is like this now...tell a joke about a minority or gay, same thing happens
I am not a fan of capitalism.
But looking at communist state like DDR or USSR, I think this was even a worst hell.
It's not that there was no work or no camaraderie. There certainly was. But what's missing and fearsome is how the communism tries to oppose basic human emotions. Like joking about a superior. Or even valuing ideology rather than competency (leading to terrible individuals being leaders). You had a similar attitude in another totalitarian state, Nazi Germany. But it was not always as such, the Nazis usually valued competition and getting the most efficient person running the show. At the same time, Hitler at the end of the war was only surrounded by sycophants and generals were often preferred if they adhered to Nazism, not their sound advice. I think it goes beyond ideology, any totalitarian state devolves like that.
Tja, dead man joking
West German films are very obviously west German films
Since the GDR didn't exist anymore when these movie was made I'm not sure if it makes sense to call it a West-German film.
what movie is this from?
Thanks Ice, I thought I recognized the head Stasi.
That was a chilling movie and so much more relevant today than ever
@@Icemann89germany is slowly on the way to get people in jail, for mocking the left-green party
Some firefighter needed to pay a fine in january or february, cause he applaud to the farmers.
Our government make the farmers look like they support the right party, and being right is cleary being a n4z1 in their eyes, or something in that direction.
It's sad, but thankfully not so bad like in the past (ddr)
Another DDR joke: honecker and mielke are disgussing hobbies and honecker says: i have a hobby. I collect the jokes people tell about me. Mielke answers: mine is similar i collect the people who tell them.
Das war gut.
Something similar was said in Czechoslovakia.
Gustav Husák talks to Leonid Brezhnev: "I have a new hobby, I am collecting jokes about myself." And Leonid Brezhnev answers him: "I do the same thing." Gustav Husák curiously asks: "Great! How many jokes do you already have?" Leonid Brezhnev: "Three full prisons."
And another:
Do you know how to recognize the best political joke?
The best political joke is the one that, even after years, makes you laugh so hard that you fall behind the prison bars from laughing."
And other:
The judge walks out of the courtroom, leans against the wall and lets out a stifled laugh. A colleague asks him what made him laugh so much. "I just heard the best joke!" says the judge. "Then tell me too!" complains the colleague, but the judge replies: "I can't, I just sentenced the guy to ten years for telling it!"