Well not only was the video not very funny, people actually do these things. I’ve seen multiple segments with people going 50 mph up a drawbridge, or 80 mph down a 45.
First of all it wasn't really funny to begin with. Second, people would actually do something like draft behind a car, or similar, with is incredibly obnoxious.
I got a local KOM on a twisty descent in NZ taken away from me by a German guy on a virtual reality trainer! Was able to flag it course. But must be quite handy being able to pedal continually around a sharp hairpin corner at 250W's and not have to worry about line, balance or tyre grip :/
I got a friend that created a segment at a retirement community where he works. Just one access point with security guards making sure his KOM stays safe
I've been ridding hard this summer, dropped 30 lbs and I've got a good amount of power now IMO. So I'm starting to pound up shorter hills and see how I rank on Strava. I averaged just over 15 mph yesterday and felt pretty solid on that attempt. I look up the record, and this chubby cheek'd guy has the KOM at 30 mph up the same hill. 30 mph on this hill would be unsafe even in a car. No freaking way. Then I see on the same ride, he set another KOM in a Sprint on a flat area a couple miles away. These people forgetting to turn their app off or stop their ride are ruining legit people's attempts at stardom. There's several people who averaged around 20 mph, so that, while very impressive I can believe, but 30 mph of a hill that hits 13%, no chance.
Easiest way to get a KOM or QOM is find a section of road without a segment, create the segment yourself, ride it and become the KOM of your new segment. Until someone else rides it of course. But at least you were King or Queen for one day. Lol
I think people do #4 and #5 a lot. I have ridden a lot of segments, especially in SoCal, that there is NO way the climbing speeds are that fast. I'm not the absolute BEST climber, but I am no hack and I thought "Holy $*(& people are fast down here" when I first got there. Then on some of the climbs I got passed by people (on road and MTB) on E-bikes and that was the first time I really realized people were probably cheating. Pisses me off that people would do that. SO I've just started using STRAVA to compare my own rides, and I don't care anymore about KOM/QOM speeds.
Tailwind isn’t cheating. It isn’t a cheat the 99.99% of the time when I’m headed into a 23mph block headwind and Strava calculates my power at 95friggin Watts!!
Unless you've got power meter data to support the KoM then it's BS. I've given up being arsed about them and just use Strava as a training record and to see my power curve & HR.
Hilarious, at least you had your hellmut on in your car when you took the KOM...the Wednesday wind at 3:00 am tailwind has been used around these parts... seriously.
Erik Knudsen I believe tailwind KOM's are legit. Around here the wind blows in all directions, sometimes a tailwind both ways on an out and back, mostly for me it's a tailwind out,and I don't realize it, thinking I'm really impressed with my strength untill I made the turn into the wind. Hahahaha all's good though. I'm old, and ride vintage"heavy" steel.
For climbing you can just join Zwift. Sit in your living room in Florida or Kansas and your weekly club leaderboard will show that you have climbed huge mountains all week. Heck, the biggest fake climb will show up as real in your highest climb statistic for as long as you are on Strava.
This just shows that obsessively going for a KOM is stupid because it's way too easy to cheat and a lot of it is down to luck. Try to improve your personal times instead of going after a number
youd have to be a bit dull if you think people who are willing to steal strava segments by driving would only realise this after watching a youtube video. Plenty of people did it anyway mate get a grip
i just simply explained why the thumbs down... i love the video i find it very funny... i just answered Kumars question...... i am not one to give thumbs down
And how does one tell the difference between waiting for a tail wind and just getting a tail wind? I mean in respect of reporting someone for cheating.
So I don't understand, if you drive the segment, do you drive a whole loop at low speed? I mean if someone checks your whole ride and see that you just had a KOM/QOM for just a a segment and that's your entire ride, wouldn't that look like a cheat?
I just started cycling due to lock down ! Relatively un fit ,50 year old male and about 2 stone overweight ! Cycle 1000 km over 2 months on a 5 year old boardman hybrid weighing 11 kg and found that women's QOM are easily achievable ! So my aim to get fit is beat local QOM times ! Men's time are just not achieveble with out years of training !
It's astonishing the lengths some of our local E bikers go to try to convince people they were on a regular bike. This includes uploading pictures of non E bikes with their ride and straight up lying about it in the comments. What satisfaction do they get from this?
Every single day I get at least one " uh oh " message from Strava with people using some of these methods in this vid or someone using a poor GPS device, usually someone else will flag it, theres probably 50 KOMS I have forgotten about that have been stolen from me and I don't have the heart to flag them, it's really only the long climbs in the mountains that I care about and people don't really cheat on those.
The give away is the top speed and going up hills faster. I go my flybys and look at there times which funnily enough are more realistic. Sad state of affairs that people resort to cheating. The KOM list usually tells me who's cheating when you see ridiculous times. I don't follow these people for a reason.
I have a E-mountain bike and use Strava E-bike section. I have a few off road KOM Strava times. What I noticed thought is when I've been on the roads is that there is a shit load of E-mountain bikes that's need chipped to go faster or have super powerful Chinese motors. The KOMs are unbeatable. 34.4 mph up a hill that the original KOM was 16.2mph...36mph where it's a 20 and 30mph zone and the KOM was originally 22mph. Now that got to be cheaters beating cheaters in ebiker haters eyes especially when the person who has took every road KOM is really the QOM...yes a women.
Seems like Strava should filter out those without both a HR monitor and PM. I have also lost KOM’s by group riders of three or more. Strava can easily filter that out too. End of the day it really doesn’t matter
Heh, I don't think waiting for the wind is necessarily "cheating", it's a valid strategy. Also do you think it's cheating when a female drafts male cyclists to get a QOM?
Ok so the video was for fun.... i am actually launching an investigation cause there is a dude on the leaderboard who got 20 thousand kilometers in 8 hours which is actually insane. I wish to ensure that justice is served 😤
I wish I could afford to keep throwing my GPS down the road. guess there are sad people who take strava and KOM's far too seriously. they need to chill out and realise there are far more Important things in life.
I do have a KOM that is way better than anything else I have ever done, but it was during a real run with no cheating. I feel like it must be wrong in some way - should I keep it?
This is funny but in real life we have someone who's left their Garmin on and got a swag of KOMs that have been flagged but are still on the leaderboard after three months (60 km/h up an 800 metre long 7% incline is a dead giveaway).
At first glance, I was appalled by this video description. Then when the wind segment came on, I was guilty by association on this particular subtopic since I often think about doing it on days where it’s just too windy to get out there on the bike. Fortunately or unfortunately, I’m just not that motivated (lazy) to see it through. BTW, since most top 10 segments were set at the same time & date on a group ride, is this even “ honest”? Also, this reminds me of the time my wife & I were on a Sunday drive in a cycling-centric region of central California where I was at the time, very “deep in the weeds” about road cycling and it’s subculture there. We stopped at this little 19th century saloon & general store, and to much surprise & hilarity, I see one of the local guys at a nearby turnoff which leads to a short but nasty steep climb: a very sought after segment that is circumvented by gravel just as you proceed onto the turnoff causing riders to slow down before the climb, sweeping the gravel and scooping it up into a five gallon bucket. He ignored me, but I knew damned well what he was doing. From that day on I’d call him out in front of his pack, “hey, you forgot your broom today!” 🤣
come on, do it the right and honorable way - DOPE! Like Armstrong, Landis, Hamilton, Ricco, Ullrich... Valverde, Wiggins or Froome... and you can even have a TUE if you do your KOM on TUEsday!
This is serious stuff in my town. You dont just get flagged here you are confronted and interrogated. Reminds me of dogs pissing against a tree marking their territory.
some idiots in my country have KOM in running at 50 km/h and strava company thinks that a normal speed for humans, i can't report it cause their activity is hidden
Got smashed off the bike by a car . The bike was in bits and taken home by my wife with Garmin still running . Took several KOM while in casualty Hospital waiting to be stitched up . Lol
You know, I extracted my gallbladder 1 week ago and will have to wait kind of more 3 weeks to go back to my bike so do you think that is acceptable on a psychological way to use the tip #4 to cheating myself? 😂😂😂
Problem is what is cheating? Watch pros ride a mountain and you'll see sacrificial riders that almost die on the mountain to protect their leader up some serious climbs. It's almost as cheating as motor-pacing. I'm sure I could beat my PRs if I could convince Landa or Thomas to ride just in front of me most or all of the way up.
+Thomas Lord especially as beat the KoM by a minute. I had intended the ride to be off-grid but my default upload settings were public. It got flagged before I had a chance to change the ride settings.
I t's astonishing the lengths some of our local E bikers go to try to convince people they were on a regular bike. This includes uploading pictures of non E bikes with their ride and straight up lying about it in the comments. What satisfaction do they get from this?
Chris Colabella They're just twats. I was just out to see if I could do my 48 mile Manchester airport --> brickworks --> Whaley Bridge --> Buxton --> Cat & Fiddle ride on the 36v 9Ah battery. I had to push like hell, especially when the battery died near Prestbury
My girlfriend took a few QOM while riding at the back of an ambulance after a nasty crash... :-)
They should add that one to the list lol
Hope all is well with your girl...
same!
Hahah not sure wether to laugh or feel bad about it
Accidentally left garmin running when bringing bike home on car. Someone reported my 70mph 2000 watt 30minute effort, by the time I got home
Trim feature
Don't throw your Garmin - the Wahoo Bolt is more aerodynamic! ;-)
Good one :) 1,5 watts save.
Nice advert. I don't see enough of these anymore.
😂
lol
Love the fact you were still wearing your helmet driving the car :-)
He could of clipped it up though
That scene was funny
got to act the part still
Garmins are expensive. Throw the whole bars, they're padded.
Somebody just did this to me.
I beat them by one second aug2.
Then Aug 3 they take back the lead by 30. Yeah 30 seconds.
I hate cheaters
you can report them if you go on your computer :). Idk exactly how to do it bc I've never done it but I know that you can
Lots of dislikes so far with only 50 views, do people these days not understand satire?
Nic Dorman a thumbs down is satirical 🥃
apparently not, such a sour bunch of pathetic people I say.
Satire is served best when actually funny or witty. This video is neither.
Well not only was the video not very funny, people actually do these things. I’ve seen multiple segments with people going 50 mph up a drawbridge, or 80 mph down a 45.
First of all it wasn't really funny to begin with. Second, people would actually do something like draft behind a car, or similar, with is incredibly obnoxious.
I got a local KOM on a twisty descent in NZ taken away from me by a German guy on a virtual reality trainer! Was able to flag it course. But must be quite handy being able to pedal continually around a sharp hairpin corner at 250W's and not have to worry about line, balance or tyre grip :/
You mean those idiots at strava didn't separate indoor KOM's from outdoors? Wow bunch of morons and to think they charge money for that shit!
Psyk078 It’s free...
Hate these virtual trainer guys. Like go to your virtual reality road why tf you coming to the real ones
Waiting for the wind conditions to change isn’t cheating, it’s an advantage but not cheating.
yeah that's just good planning
1: cut corners
2: enter with speed
3: wait until its low trafic
4: stop after the finish line
driving isnt cheating as long as your wearing a bike helmet
Wtf 🤣
Brilliant... But what about pulling a Niboli and just hanging onto the car when going up hill!
Wind is not a cheat.
Waiting for a tailwind and taking KOM is.
I can assure you that all KOMs were done on windy days. Except the ones going a round rout and the ones going and returning on the same path.
surely cyclists have no arm strength , don't throw your Garmin.....use a Catapult !!!
waiting for the first #gcnhack to appear LOL
Legend has it that Lance Armstrong could curl 15kg of own blood bags.
I got a friend that created a segment at a retirement community where he works. Just one access point with security guards making sure his KOM stays safe
I've been ridding hard this summer, dropped 30 lbs and I've got a good amount of power now IMO. So I'm starting to pound up shorter hills and see how I rank on Strava. I averaged just over 15 mph yesterday and felt pretty solid on that attempt. I look up the record, and this chubby cheek'd guy has the KOM at 30 mph up the same hill. 30 mph on this hill would be unsafe even in a car. No freaking way. Then I see on the same ride, he set another KOM in a Sprint on a flat area a couple miles away. These people forgetting to turn their app off or stop their ride are ruining legit people's attempts at stardom. There's several people who averaged around 20 mph, so that, while very impressive I can believe, but 30 mph of a hill that hits 13%, no chance.
😂 Hahah Garmin throw
Easiest way to get a KOM or QOM is find a section of road without a segment, create the segment yourself, ride it and become the KOM of your new segment.
Until someone else rides it of course. But at least you were King or Queen for one day. Lol
Or unless someone else rode it while Strava- ing BEFORE. You created it!
I think people do #4 and #5 a lot. I have ridden a lot of segments, especially in SoCal, that there is NO way the climbing speeds are that fast. I'm not the absolute BEST climber, but I am no hack and I thought "Holy $*(& people are fast down here" when I first got there. Then on some of the climbs I got passed by people (on road and MTB) on E-bikes and that was the first time I really realized people were probably cheating. Pisses me off that people would do that. SO I've just started using STRAVA to compare my own rides, and I don't care anymore about KOM/QOM speeds.
Tailwind isn’t cheating. It isn’t a cheat the 99.99% of the time when I’m headed into a 23mph block headwind and Strava calculates my power at 95friggin Watts!!
Unless you've got power meter data to support the KoM then it's BS. I've given up being arsed about them and just use Strava as a training record and to see my power curve & HR.
The like/dislike ratio on this video is prima facie proof that cyclists are too uptight.
*road* cyclists ;D
Hilarious, at least you had your hellmut on in your car when you took the KOM...the Wednesday wind at 3:00 am tailwind has been used around these parts... seriously.
Throwing your Garmin was hilarious. And who hasn't gone for it when they find themselves with an insane tailwind!
Erik Knudsen I believe tailwind KOM's are legit. Around here the wind blows in all directions, sometimes a tailwind both ways on an out and back, mostly for me it's a tailwind out,and I don't realize it, thinking I'm really impressed with my strength untill I made the turn into the wind. Hahahaha all's good though. I'm old, and ride vintage"heavy" steel.
For climbing you can just join Zwift. Sit in your living room in Florida or Kansas and your weekly club leaderboard will show that you have climbed huge mountains all week. Heck, the biggest fake climb will show up as real in your highest climb statistic for as long as you are on Strava.
Zwift climb cheat crap
This just shows that obsessively going for a KOM is stupid because it's way too easy to cheat and a lot of it is down to luck. Try to improve your personal times instead of going after a number
Drink prune juice = go faster
Out the wrong end 😂
Great video. Love it!! It's human nature to cheat, just ask the pro cyclists! 😜
HAHAHA throwing your garmin xD This some funny shit. Cant believe it has so many dislikes lol its obviously a joke
the reason why is we don't need cheats... strava will be filed with assholes driving their cars
youd have to be a bit dull if you think people who are willing to steal strava segments by driving would only realise this after watching a youtube video. Plenty of people did it anyway mate get a grip
i think you need to get a grip
Harry Tzianskis The God of Speed lighten up Harry old chap
i just simply explained why the thumbs down... i love the video i find it very funny... i just answered Kumars question...... i am not one to give thumbs down
Throwing your gps can get expensive... Not sure getting a tailwind is necessarily cheating.
I agree. A tailwind is a tactic not a cheat.
Well it is a cheat. Strava rules say no drafting too so when you are using something more than your raw power and sills you are cheating.
So you must only attempt a segment when there is no wind at all? That's a bit impractical.
Cheating for me is when you wait for a tailwind and grab a KOM.
And how does one tell the difference between waiting for a tail wind and just getting a tail wind? I mean in respect of reporting someone for cheating.
So I don't understand, if you drive the segment, do you drive a whole loop at low speed? I mean if someone checks your whole ride and see that you just had a KOM/QOM for just a a segment and that's your entire ride, wouldn't that look like a cheat?
Cheating on Strava is insignificant compared to the shenanigans that happen on Zwift!
Many KOM times are done by a rider in a race in the middle of a very fast peloton. That's a legit 10kph advantage
JP Flynn exactly what I do and how I got some very competitive KOMs hahaha I say that’s legit 😌
So many people cheating here in Belgium: 1km climb of 3% at 55.5 km/h, I wanna SEE them do it!
I just started cycling due to lock down ! Relatively un fit ,50 year old male and about 2 stone overweight ! Cycle 1000 km over 2 months on a 5 year old boardman hybrid weighing 11 kg and found that women's QOM are easily achievable ! So my aim to get fit is beat local QOM times !
Men's time are just not achieveble with out years of training !
It's astonishing the lengths some of our local E bikers go to try to convince people they were on a regular bike. This includes uploading pictures of non E bikes with their ride and straight up lying about it in the comments.
What satisfaction do they get from this?
This is EXACTLY why i am NOT on Strava, nor will i ever be.
Every single day I get at least one " uh oh " message from Strava with people using some of these methods in this vid or someone using a poor GPS device, usually someone else will flag it, theres probably 50 KOMS I have forgotten about that have been stolen from me and I don't have the heart to flag them, it's really only the long climbs in the mountains that I care about and people don't really cheat on those.
dr10501 Humblebrag!!
Me too, what with my 1632896543387659 KOMs to date I'm not that bothered about the occasional KOM steal by underhanded methods ;)
Salbutamol puffs would do the trick. It worked for Froome the past few years.
a guy with 1/2 a brain up my way took a 4 year old KOM of mine, whilst it was blowing a HEAD wind down the climb. Crazy stuff.
Brilliant !!! Love the launching the Garmin... also "accidentally on purpose".
The give away is the top speed and going up hills faster. I go my flybys and look at there times which funnily enough are more realistic. Sad state of affairs that people resort to cheating. The KOM list usually tells me who's cheating when you see ridiculous times. I don't follow these people for a reason.
I have a E-mountain bike and use Strava E-bike section. I have a few off road KOM Strava times. What I noticed thought is when I've been on the roads is that there is a shit load of E-mountain bikes that's need chipped to go faster or have super powerful Chinese motors. The KOMs are unbeatable. 34.4 mph up a hill that the original KOM was 16.2mph...36mph where it's a 20 and 30mph zone and the KOM was originally 22mph. Now that got to be cheaters beating cheaters in ebiker haters eyes especially when the person who has took every road KOM is really the QOM...yes a women.
That throw may only get you a QOM...
Seems like Strava should filter out those without both a HR monitor and PM. I have also lost KOM’s by group riders of three or more. Strava can easily filter that out too. End of the day it really doesn’t matter
Heh, I don't think waiting for the wind is necessarily "cheating", it's a valid strategy.
Also do you think it's cheating when a female drafts male cyclists to get a QOM?
Or drafting behind any group of cyclists rather than solo. I’d say that’s worse than a tailwind and not much different than motopacing!
I’m dead @ that femcyclnist joke....I don’t even bike bro, just trippin on acid someone watching this hilarious and weird thing to parody.
Nearby where i live there is a KOM with a speed of 163km/h - i should repport that.
You can legaly drive there 80km/h 🤪
Attach the Garmin to a toy plane and fly it up.
Ok so the video was for fun.... i am actually launching an investigation cause there is a dude on the leaderboard who got 20 thousand kilometers in 8 hours which is actually insane. I wish to ensure that justice is served 😤
Garmin throw is genius!! Hahaha!!
On your indoor trainer. So many KOM’s are now claimed during Virtual Rides it’s ridiculous. Why Strava allows that is beyond ridiculous
6: Use a velomobile for flat segments :P
What is the use of cheating others?
The Wind direction is one thing I was think about
Windpomp is an app that gives you the specific wind benefit on each Strava segment.....
I wish I could afford to keep throwing my GPS down the road. guess there are sad people who take strava and KOM's far too seriously. they need to chill out and realise there are far more Important things in life.
Love the humour of this video. Got into every cyclists competive side. 😎👿
I do have a KOM that is way better than anything else I have ever done, but it was during a real run with no cheating. I feel like it must be wrong in some way - should I keep it?
This is funny but in real life we have someone who's left their Garmin on and got a swag of KOMs that have been flagged but are still on the leaderboard after three months (60 km/h up an 800 metre long 7% incline is a dead giveaway).
Some proper LOL moments. Ollie you star!!
This what make strava look rubbish in recording
Riding on a dull day wearing all black - real smart 👍🏻
At first glance, I was appalled by this video description. Then when the wind segment came on, I was guilty by association on this particular subtopic since I often think about doing it on days where it’s just too windy to get out there on the bike. Fortunately or unfortunately, I’m just not that motivated (lazy) to see it through. BTW, since most top 10 segments were set at the same time & date on a group ride, is this even “ honest”? Also, this reminds me of the time my wife & I were on a Sunday drive in a cycling-centric region of central California where I was at the time, very “deep in the weeds” about road cycling and it’s subculture there. We stopped at this little 19th century saloon & general store, and to much surprise & hilarity, I see one of the local guys at a nearby turnoff which leads to a short but nasty steep climb: a very sought after segment that is circumvented by gravel just as you proceed onto the turnoff causing riders to slow down before the climb, sweeping the gravel and scooping it up into a five gallon bucket. He ignored me, but I knew damned well what he was doing. From that day on I’d call him out in front of his pack, “hey, you forgot your broom today!” 🤣
Love this guy!
Yeah figured when a local 50 year old lady is constantly running 4 minute 16 milers something was off.
come on, do it the right and honorable way - DOPE! Like Armstrong, Landis, Hamilton, Ricco, Ullrich... Valverde, Wiggins or Froome... and you can even have a TUE if you do your KOM on TUEsday!
Still too much work i'm afraid.
If all else fails make a new segment on a road that no one else goes on, and you’ve got it in the bag
Can u not cheat with Running or Walking?
Good vid. Throw your garmin made me chuckle
I drafted a bus on my commute and nabbed a much sought after kom... Oh yeah 😃
people in my neighborhood actually use e-bikes to take kom's. or i just say that so i feel better about not having any
Throwing Garmin..I gotta give it to you.. never could have thought about it
Pass on your watch/garmin to teammate or someone else and let them do the rest of segment
Tailwind is the key
Throwing the garmin! 😂😂😂 wow
Export GPX, edit in a text document and import to Strava.
wind is the only legit one.
This is serious stuff in my town. You dont just get flagged here you are confronted and interrogated. Reminds me of dogs pissing against a tree marking their territory.
Surely nobody would cheat
John Bicycle There's a loser in my town who regularly drives with his Strava on. People are now bored of flagging him.
Can u just pause it take a break then turn the time back on, is that possible !
#3 is totally legitimate, and so is #6, which would be tt bike and full aero kit.
From the amount of dislikes it looks like cyclist need to get a sense of humor.
What do you get by getting on a car?? Just to show that you got a KOM?? Self satisfaction is important rather than doing sneaky stuff to get the KOM!!
Edit the FIT file before you upload. But seriously, I never get anywhere near KOM. Would be suspicious.
some idiots in my country have KOM in running at 50 km/h and strava company thinks that a normal speed for humans, i can't report it cause their activity is hidden
I think someone has been using a bike on some of the local running KOM.
So guess these get added to the unwritten book of cycling rules?
Not gonna lie, this is pretty funny.
I think you shouldent be able to get a KOM without heartrate shown
Got smashed off the bike by a car . The bike was in bits and taken home by my wife with Garmin still running . Took several KOM while in casualty Hospital waiting to be stitched up . Lol
Someone reported my ride for no reason
No Garmin, no KOM
Saw a guy getting paced by an ebike today...
I took all of my local koms on my new e bike. GCN showed how to make it look legit
You know, I extracted my gallbladder 1 week ago and will have to wait kind of more 3 weeks to go back to my bike so do you think that is acceptable on a psychological way to use the tip #4 to cheating myself? 😂😂😂
Problem is what is cheating? Watch pros ride a mountain and you'll see sacrificial riders that almost die on the mountain to protect their leader up some serious climbs. It's almost as cheating as motor-pacing. I'm sure I could beat my PRs if I could convince Landa or Thomas to ride just in front of me most or all of the way up.
They'd drop you and still get a better time tho.
I got the KoM on the brickworks once on my ebike. It got flagged within minutes.
CheadleBiker the brickworks is a well known climb its not a surprise
+Thomas Lord especially as beat the KoM by a minute. I had intended the ride to be off-grid but my default upload settings were public. It got flagged before I had a chance to change the ride settings.
CheadleBiker o
I t's astonishing the lengths some of our local E bikers go to try to convince people they were on a regular bike. This includes uploading pictures of non E bikes with their ride and straight up lying about it in the comments.
What satisfaction do they get from this?
Chris Colabella They're just twats. I was just out to see if I could do my 48 mile Manchester airport --> brickworks --> Whaley Bridge --> Buxton --> Cat & Fiddle ride on the 36v 9Ah battery. I had to push like hell, especially when the battery died near Prestbury
Who watches this in 2020?
We still are
@@cyclingweekly then you are as lucky as I am 😊
#3 isn't cheating, its wise.
This is a brilliant video!
Is an e bike not classes as cheating