@DailyRider - it would be both helpful in pulling the trigger on a purchase (or not), & brilliantly entertaining to see the Z650RS' big brother, the Z900RS, make an appearance as a guest on the "Daily Rider" show! Please 🙏 make it happen, guys! Thanks in advance if you're able to bring that video to life!
Zack, for future videos can you can snap a profile picture of you sitting on each of the daily rider bikes, so we can see the human to bike ratio and ergonomics? Gracias mi amigo!
I would love it if you made a mention of headlight effectiveness in your ride... My "daily ride" often starts in the dark, on rural roads, and a good headlight is very important on my commuter moto... As always, great work on this piece. Thanks for the hard work you put in to keeping us all informed, and entertained.
I've also made this comment in many motorcycle reviews. I used to commute to work 45 miles over a mountain road before dawn and lighting was critical for my safety. I don't know why ALL these guys NEVER mention lighting. My 2004 BMW K1200RS had horrible lights. You'd think that all these guys only ride during daylight hours. Maybe that's it.
i own this bike and often have early morning or late evening commutes. The headlight is VERY good, and grerat coverage of the road with both low and high beams. Its LED, so its nice and birhgt. Also adjustable vertically if you need it.
Just passed 400 miles on my 23 model. Everything you said is spot on! It’s just all around good. To have no disappointments or regrets at all is a rare thing.
I believe that MOST of the “it’s so boring” comments come from people who don’t actually ride. If you can’t have fun with a z650 because the engine is slightly less peppy than an MT07, you’re doing something wrong.
@@jth_printed_designs my car inline4 engine is as boring as it can get...also, my old b1200 motor was powerful but boring turbine like power delivery. My old 500cc honda paralel twin was slower but more fun to rev and use. I think its a matter of opinion and past experiences. To me, a loud and slow vtwin is a lot more boring and annoying than a basic liquid cooled 70hp parallel twin than can do 0 to 60 in 4 seconds or less
I have this bike and got it as soon as it was announced, yes based solely on the looks! 100% form over function! I know the Z650 is reliable and got fine power for me, and with this bike’s sweet looks I was sold! People say the engine and set up is boring, and that usually dominates the reviews, “why doesn’t it have a different firing order like the Yamaha” etc etc etc, really there are so many bikes with the trendy 270 crank that a 180 is almost interesting! I love the bike! Confirmation bias? Convincing myself of the purchase? To a degree… Absolutely! Where I live we have no Royal Enfields, and Triumph are twice as expensive as in other markets, so it makes this bike a better purchase! I do wish that it had a better looking exhaust like the Z900RS, and the it’s beyond me why they didn’t put fake cooling fins on the engine, the same engine on the 650 Vulcan S has them, and the Z900RS has them. Not sure how long this bike will be for this world, with Yamaha, and now Honda and even Suzuki with more modern and trendy engine platforms, maybe Kawasaki will go the same way with their 650 platform.
I feel like I literally wished this bike into existence. I loved how z900rs looked, but it was out of my price range. Even when I bought my previous Kawasaki I was asking the dealership will they make 650 version of z900rs. I've owned z650rs for over a year and I still get excited when seeing, or riding it. I love it. Btw I have a green/gold color way.
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It lacks a voice. I like Kawasaki bikes. I noticed their are a couple of styling tidbits from the Triumph Bonneville. Put a small wind screen on it and a couple of canvas saddle bags and away we gooo! Vaughn
Agree! It might sound cheesy, but based on their video content - especially the extended trips with Zach and Ari - I’m proud to be a Revzilla customer and to help support them.
About the upright seating position, I've found that a slightly more forward leaning position is more comfortable on a long journey because an upright back takes the full brunt of gravity and the bumps on the road.
Yeah it’s a bummer. 5 years ago I got an almost brand new SV650 for under 5,000. The ergos were too sporty for me but it was otherwise a fantastic bike.
They just want so much for them to me you wait 5 years you get it for 8k instead of 14k. These z650s also cost a lot. 10k is a lot thats like used indian scout money for the scout 60.
No, thank you Zack for answering my question! And yes i did came to this conclusion, it's not 35% less bike, but the 900 (yes i do own one) is worth the extra price (if that makes sense)!
Awesome review really appreciate that you put these up on Saturday, I can't think of anything else I like better than eating breakfast drinking some coffee and watching the next daily rider experience !! 😊 happy boy
I often feel like a lousy motorcyclist because I can’t wheelie or back it in. But Zack has been riding his whole life and I’ve only been riding a year and a half. The main thing is we all enjoy it. I was deciding between this bike and the Bonneville T100. If Kawasaki kept the green gas tank and offered the red gas tank as a regular option I most likely would have gotten this one. But I ended up with the Bonnie. And honestly I think the Bonneville is much better for my skill level. Really good fueling (not herky jerky at all) and a lot milder of a riding experience. As Zack would say, very approachable.
Wheelies can be hard but honestly backing it in is pretty simple you just smash the rear break lmao. If you find your letting the rear end out too much or not stopping fast enough just supplement with front break.
I had prejudice against this 180 parallel twin until I rented a Ninja 650 and rode Angeles Crest…when you have that engine in the upper power band, it really sings
I just got the 2022 version (colour scheme and signal lights shape are the only differences I noticed) brand new from a dealership for around 7,200 USD*. I sold my RE Int 650 for it, and the only pros of the RE vs. the Z650RS are: 1. stock engine and exhaust look and sound way better 2. smoother shifting (the latter does have a snatchy throttle at 1st and 2nd gear, too, though that disappears when you hit 3rd gear) 3. I feel safer going fast on the expressways (because the RE is terribly heavier, which, ironically, is the main reason I sold it) Overall still super happy with my choice. The Z650RS meets all my needs whether it be city commute or long rides to the beach. It's light, nimble, conveniently sized to easily lane split with, enough power to overtake and/or have fun (I could go on for days) *bought cash and I registered it myself (60% cheaper and 100% faster vs. the amount the dealership charged for handling the registration themselves). Cost of registration and insurance included in the 7,200 price
I really took this video into consideration before purchasing this motorcycle. I was fortunate enough to get this bike on sale $1500 off! So basically purchased it for sticker price with all the dealer fees. Just did the dreaded manufacture break in procedure, and I’m really surprised by how responsive this thing is all around! Night and day between my CBR 600RR. Thanks so much for your review!
Another awesome review Zach it’s hard to knock off the sv 650 … I just want you to know your daily rider and you reviews are undeniably the best and I swear you better then a professional actor your personality and the video quality is hands down the best and I trust all of your opinions with all the knowledge you have and experience!!!
If I was younger that would be my set of wheels, had the ZRX 1100 a few years back, miracle I didn’t kill my self on it, so fast, like a drug with so much power. Loved that machine even after some 10 day road trips. Had Kawasaki’s on and off for over 50 years, every one left their mark. Great bikes. 😎
I got this as my first bike last year and, despite some of the downsides Zach talks about--which I agree with--I feel like I could have done much worse for a pick. The biggest downsides in my experience are the fuel tank size because in west Texas towns are few and far between, the lack of cruise control can be annoying on the highway, and the throttle jerkiness, which--when paired with my lack of experience--has been problematic in the city. It's definitely like a 8/10 or 9/10 to me.
My Vulcan S, which shares this motor, greatly benefited from a Booster Plug! I never got a power commander but I’m sure that would help the fueling issue even further! Enjoy the bike
My first bike was a Rebel 1100 but I did my motorcycle license courses and exam o a Z650. I also think they are a bit jerky, particularly when you're new, but I think they you can get used to it.
Great bike - had one as my first bike which I had for 14 months and did about 14000km. Bullet proof, fun, and more than adequate even on freeways and the track.
Would love to see Zach review a Moto Guzzi V7 or V8. I wanted air cooled retro as a 2nd bike and ended up with a V7. Build quality is questionable but full of character and handles great even with the rear dual shocks
He did the V85 a few years ago, but wasn't too enthusiastic about the Guzzi quality and character, it seems. But I agree, would love Zach to do another run on a V7!
As someone who grew up riding dirt bikes in the 70s I remember these street bikes. I use to walk by the Kawasaki dealer on my way to middle school in the late 70s and dreamed of having one one day. As I grew up cars were more part of my life and didn't ride again until 2018. In my opinion besides Triumph, Kawasaki has the best-looking retros in the Z650Rs and Z900Rs.
I purchased the OG in 77 in Gun metal and loved it. I like how Kawi uses the style of the 650 lettering from the original your spot on with the cockpit set up.I bought my 2nd 650 in 82 the color was Ox Blood Red. Both these bikes were bullet proof. I lived in Euclid back in the day, rode out to New Port beach every day to get to my job. I had a white Vetter fairing. When I got on the road, the seas parted thinking I was CHP. I loved those bikes, and I may have to check on these for a longing for the Good Ole Days😎
The kawasaki z650rs the green model with gold wheels. Is a moving work of art. Wonderful bike. A perfect bike. If anything isn't quite right ...is the lack of a crome rear mudgaurd and the rear light fitted to the mudgaurd. But that's it. I would have one straight away
Just get the z900rs instead, owned one for a couple years and it’s so much better and not that more money. Bigger tank, better mpgs, more power and looks more filled in.
Still the best bike reviews out there. Love it. A for the bike... The astounding Z900rs ergos, quality and looks get my vote, even with the big bump in price.
@@blipco5 Fine is the best you can say about it. Barely adequate is a better description. Mines a Versys 650 as well. Every other bike I've owned has had a better engine. Every parallel twin I've ever ridden including Honda's new 1100s are agricultural and underwhelming. Manufacturers have defaulted to them because they are a cheap interim engine while they sort out BEV and hybrid powerplants for bikes. Get on ANY Triumph triple including the restricted 660cc bikes and the difference between a Kawasaki parallel twin and a real engine is stark. My Versys 650 has the distinction of being the bike that will end my riding career because anything I can afford to replace it with that I'm comfortable on is a parallel twin. I'm not paying to be disappointed again.
@@JDWDMC I wish the Kawi 650 was a 270 degree crank as they sound a little more exiting but here’s something you probably don’t know about the Kawi 650 twin… It has a cassette style gearbox same as MotoGP race bikes! That means, should something go wrong, you can remove the transmission from the engine without splitting the cases while leaving the engine in the frame! How’s that for apples? The Versys has a top speed of about 130 mph. If that’s not fast enough for you then Ducati makes V twins that really boogie. Or better yet, try an find that early 2000's MZ with the 1000cc parallel twin. Reading the reviews at the time, it outperformed the Japanese liter bikes.
When taking about fuel range, fuel capacity, seat height, weight and the rest of the numbered specs, it would be nice to have the metric equivalent pop up on the screen for rest of us viewers across the ocean. Thank you! Keep it up!
The moment all parallel twins are 90 or 270 degree cranks, people will start complaining about how they all sound the same, and some company will make a V-twin with dual cranks giving a 180 degree effective crank angle. hehe! Complaining is fun though, it really is!
Since kawasaki "standarized" all of their dash with that tft unit one, I grew to prefer the z900rs and z650rs dash at least they have some kind of character to it.
Not just character. The tft display doesn't age well. 40 year old needles still look great. Early screens now are painful. I would rather have no screen than an old screen with hardly any features. Seen a 12 year old car with built in satnav ?
Kawasaki has an "Extended Reach Seat" with more padding, if that is of interest to taller people. In some other countries, that is the standard stock seat. My guess is that Kawasaki considers this to be considered an intermediate or smaller person bike in the US market so the more dished out seat makes sense. Being short, I am glad that Kawasaki tends to lean towards lower seats. It is a lot easier to add padding than to lower the suspension or mod the frame.
I'd EASILY have one if it had a decent tank. I don't know what's up with manufacturers that made them decide that modern bikes don't need autonomy. I might be suspicious to say so because I hate stopping for fuel, but why not give it an 18-litre tank? Thanks for another excellent video, Zack!
I own a Versys 650 (2020) with the same engine. It's kind of boring when you just cruise around at 4k rpm (the gearbox is louder than the engine) but it makes a lot of fun at 5-6k and above. The intake sound is great and it works absolutely fine in every situation that are legal on publich streets. The only thing, that annoys me, is the throttle response...as Zack already mentioned. But beside that..everything is great :)
That’s a sharp-looking bike. Too bad it’s let down by a jerky throttle and buzziness. My Vulcan S has those same two shortcomings; annoying, to be sure, but I bought the bike anyway. Go figure. The Kawasaki 650 engine is an excellent powerplant otherwise. Boring it isn’t, at least not in my book. The Z650RS looks like an excellent daily rider. Thanks for presenting this video.
@@sdpicturecard6858 That's too bad. I didn't notice any change in fuel economy with the RE, and it runs like a completely different bike. Like it was sick before.
Does look awful. The sell some overpriced covers that fit on the side. But it just looks attached on the a few bolts never belonged there. The cap is horrible and the pipes just join on like they added it after it was forgotten.
Very cool to see this review. I assume the US spec is the full power version and not the A2 compliant spec we have in Australia. I know looks are very subjective and a matter of personal taste, for me, z650rs is so far ahead of the sv650 it’s not even a real comparison. Just not a fan of how they sound with stock exhaust, but having heard ninja 650s with a decent slip on, I’m sure it would be a easy fix
These models are some of the best retro inspired bikes out there. I wish Mfr's would forego the outdated hardware though... (blinker housing, tach, etc.)
I've been waiting for this review for a long time. I love Kawasaki, I love the old KZ models of the '70's, and this bike does such a good job representing those bikes while being modern and relevant. It just blows my mind that it costs as much as the Z900RS did when it was first released, and is only a couple thousand less than it now. The Z900 is an awesome bike too but it's really too much bike for me, ~400 lb sporty bikes are where it's at IMO. Even though I like this bike a lot more than the few other retro options out there right now, it's just too darn expensive. I feel like if this bike were priced more aggressively it would get a lot more riders into the Kawasaki ecosystem. Still, I'm really glad that it rides as good as it looks.
@@JDWDMC No, no it isn't. I own one. Owned everything from 250cc to 1450cc and everything in-between, including a 77 KZ650. This bike rocks. Sub 12.5 second 1/4 mile, 412lbs wet. A mid-range wayyy better than old inline fours. And sounds awesome when you crack the throttle in a way people watching videos can never know. No offense to anyone, I just find the internet criticism of this particular bike bizarre.
Even worse, in Australia, Kawasaki only sell it as a HP restricted LAMS machine, so you end up paying 85% of the Z900RS price for less than half the horsepower. No deal
@@stevewelebny2749 I agree, this bike makes nearly 20 more HP than my 78 KZ750 Twin and weighs less too. And I have seen reports of huge gains with an exhaust, secondary throttle delete and remap, like 10-15 more HP which is really impressive. I still wish it wasn't so expensive, lol.
Kawasaki would be so much more competitive with Yamaha if they would update the 650 engine. Imagine an updated 700 twin more similar to the CP2. The Versys, Ninja, and Z 650 would all be so much better they would sell like crazy.
I don't think they need to make it any bigger or more powerful, but a 270 degree crank for the better sound would be awesome. I love the Vulcan S and the Z650RS but they are let down by their sound.
A good looking bike with a solid if uninteresting engine. But, my eyes keep getting drawn to that ugly ass radiator cap.😂 And thats a beautiful 66 Chevelle at 13:23.
Nice ride-along as always. This Kawi is a sweet bike. It's slender tank is reminiscent for me of one of my favs from the seventies, the Yamaha 650 twin. That Yami was, at that time, an effective competitor with the Triumph 650s of the seventies. I was impressed with your 650 dream bike choice being the engine from the Royal Enfield NT650. Yes, it's a fun, retro engine.
40 MPG, I have no clue of how 😅 I avaraged 65 mpg with the 07 Versys 650 I had (which I believe is the first year of this engine). Also, not in this nor any other universe out there I would pay $9k for this bike with its 16 year old lawnmower engine.. It would however be an amazing choice if it had a detuned, short gearing 636cc ZX6R engine. But the most unobtainable dream I have atm is a Z400RS with the new ZX4RR 4cyl 😁
Finally a review that agrees with my assessment of the very un-smooth quickshifter. I was using the clutch on my test ride to smooth out ride... enjoyed the bike overall though...
I have a regular Z650 and I agree with basically all of Zach's points and like... emotional criticism. The bike is good. You can't really say it's not good. But there's *SOMETHING* missing. Or lacking a little. And it's hard to put your thumb on exactly, but honestly I think it's giggle factor that's lacking. Great bike though.
The Japanese make very reliable bikes. But often times they lack the heft and charm of European bikes. If you compare it to something like a Triumph Street Twin, you will see a big difference in build quality. The Triumph just feels more weighty and solid. The Japanese bikes feel more like an artificial retro, with a lot of plastic parts.
Good review, as always. Regarding the on/off throttle response I've found with my Versys 650 increasing the idle rpm to 1400 to 1500 and ensuring the chain is correctly adjusted helps a lot. Or maybe I'm just used to it after 33000 miles 😁
Boring engine? Certainly, it doesn't have a deep sound, and the fact that the Akra exhaust costs a fortune is a real shame. However, noise aside, between 5,000 and 9,000 RPM it pushes hard, definitely more than a Triumph 900. In any case, it's sufficient for many, like myself, who use the bike for commuting during the week and for enjoying a ride on Sunday mornings through the hills of northern Italy.
As a daily rider the cb500x trumps the z650 in versatility, wind protection, price, fuel range and operating cost plus it is a fun bike to ride in spite of the little 471 cc mill's 178 cc disadvantage. The z costs too much like a iceberg wedge that was served without enough bacon bits and tomatoes.
So the tractor has gone retro :D I really like the combination analog gauges with a digital gear indicator. P.S. How are the chances to see the Honda CB 650 R joining the comparison?
I just test road a 650 RS today. It's good I came across this video. I really liked the dashboard and analog dials. As in I really liked the analog dials and the digital dashboard. I really did not like the seat. On the test bike the handlebars were set just a bit too far forward and the riding position was almost 650 Z like and not a traditional 70's retro bike. In other words, it put a lot of stress on my forearms with the forward lean. Another inch up and rotated back would of been a bit more comfortable. My last complaint was the forward tilt of the whole bike. I wonder if the rear shock/spring could be adjusted to take out that forward tilt ? In other words, lower the rear of the seat a bit. Another solution would be a larger (taller) front wheel. The brakes were very good and the bike cornered well. I did not feel that "buzzing" that Zach talked about. There are a lot of positives and some simple solutions that would make long distance cruising possible should Kawasaki want to make some simple changes. In the current form of the bike I road, it's a town bike but not a long distance road ranger.
great review as always. I think it's a great all arounder, like my versys 650, with the added benefit of looking really good instead of ADV weird. yes that tank is too small. I don't much get all the moaning about the 180 crank either, but like you said, it might be partly your fault for promoting that anyway. also, actually enjoy your approach to your sponsors, which kind of reminds of the old timey host based commercials of 50s tv. keep up the great work.
I was looking at a Triumph Bonneville 120 the other day because I was considering getting into motorcycles. It was parked on kind of an incline and I was just trying to sit on it to see if the size of the bike would be a good fit for me. I raised my left foot to the foot rest and kept my right foot down. The left side of the bike was angled at about 45 degrees to the downward side of the incline. The bike start to lean to the right and I had a hard time holding it up but was able to. I had put the stand fully down after I was able to stabilize the bike upright. It kind of startled me and made me question if I needed to work on my leg strength before I tried a motorcycle. I'm middle-aged and this is the first time I've looked at a motorcycle. It may just be the way the bike was parked at the dealership and mistake I made but because I've had a few health problems in recent years and don't have the strength I used to, it made me question / doubt myself as far as a motorcycle is concerned and I felt kind of stupid about it. So glad I was able to hold the bike and keep it from falling. I would have been extremely embarassed if it had. I didn't think I was doing anything careless or that anyone looking at a bike for the first time wouldn't do. I'm thinking that since the Z650RS is about 30 lbs lighter than the Bonneville, it might be a good choice as a first bike but I really like the Bonneville too. I like the style of the Z650RS as well but haven't looked at one yet. I'm also interested in a Bonneville T100. Could you please tell me what you think about what I described and what you think about the T100, T120, and Z650RS for a new middle aged person 6'3" average build? I would hope that the MSF Basic Rider course would increase my confidence and help get all the fundamentals I would need to ride safely. I would really appreciate some advice.
I think Kawasaki does create some good retro looking motorcycles. The Z650RS does look retro that was brought into todays technology. Kawasaki even made the W800, and it looks even more retro, but the Z650RS is like a retro naked bike, if there is such a category.
Great video as always, I've been watching your content for a while here in the UK. The Zed looks ok but with 29inch inside leg is still too tall for me to feel comfortable. The trend these days seems to be bikes for tall riders. The clocks and bars could do with some chrome. It looks a bit cheap but at over 9k it isn't. From your comments about the seat, seems to be another pain in the ass trend. The seat on my Versys 650 MK2 is similar. I have managed no more than 100 miles without discomfort. Gone are the days of my 1990 s Zed 1000 and GTR. Must be my age😊
"For the retro bike they've gone back to the traditional round shape [for the rotors]...the mirrors are quite round." Yeah bro, those... are circles, lol. Anyway, how does Kawi justify this price? For the premium they're charging, in this class you could either buy a more refined/over-engineered Honda, or a more equipped/capable Yamaha. The aesthetics are this bike's only trump card over the competition... as nice as they are, I don't know if that's enough (for me). Great video, keep em coming!
@@leeinwis I was looking for a z900rs, and even used it was still $10,500 for anything under 10k miles. I ended up buying a 2014 vfr800 with 3k miles for like 7k. I just couldn’t pay 50% more for less bike.
I just picked up a used 2015 Versys for $5500 with 2,500 miles. It's spotless and *_green._* Has the bags and real Barkbusters and the Givi front crash bars. Other than the ho-hum exhaust sound it's an awesome bike. I put a National Cycle tall screen on it. The buffeting was too much noise, now it's fine. Nice bike.
Yep.....The Yamaha 650 Seca was the Equal of this nice running Kawasaki Z650....Have ran many drags and 2 milers in California back in the Early 80's. Both bikes are very nice. Chain drives will always top out higher than shaft drives. The down side of 2 cylinders -- way too much amount of Vibration! The Yamaha XJ650 had almost no vibration at high RPM's.....and the Kawasaki you're riding now -- a ball number! Any 550 cc to 650 cc engine builds are very stable and have longevity. That would be 2 or 4 cylinders.
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@DailyRider - it would be both helpful in pulling the trigger on a purchase (or not), & brilliantly entertaining to see the Z650RS' big brother, the Z900RS, make an appearance as a guest on the "Daily Rider" show!
Please 🙏 make it happen, guys!
Thanks in advance if you're able to bring that video to life!
Zack, for future videos can you can snap a profile picture of you sitting on each of the daily rider bikes, so we can see the human to bike ratio and ergonomics? Gracias mi amigo!
This
Humans come in all shapes and sizes though; we’re not all over 6’
Yeah this is a great idea!!
@@alexwilsonpottery3733If you’re under 6’ you can just buy the bike that Zack looks LEAST comfortable on
@@alexwilsonpottery3733jealous?
I will never get tired of Zack's "I've done something a bit silly" laugh. It's pure joy and I hope he never changes.
Makes me smile too . Bart has a little laugh like that as well but it’s rarer
Yeah, contagious and males me smirk every time,,
I would love it if you made a mention of headlight effectiveness in your ride... My "daily ride" often starts in the dark, on rural roads, and a good headlight is very important on my commuter moto... As always, great work on this piece. Thanks for the hard work you put in to keeping us all informed, and entertained.
Agreed! I've asked this over and over in the comments on Daily Rider, sadly it doesn't seem to get picked up :(
I've also made this comment in many motorcycle reviews. I used to commute to work 45 miles over a mountain road before dawn and lighting was critical for my safety. I don't know why ALL these guys NEVER mention lighting. My 2004 BMW K1200RS had horrible lights. You'd think that all these guys only ride during daylight hours. Maybe that's it.
i own this bike and often have early morning or late evening commutes. The headlight is VERY good, and grerat coverage of the road with both low and high beams. Its LED, so its nice and birhgt. Also adjustable vertically if you need it.
Just passed 400 miles on my 23 model. Everything you said is spot on! It’s just all around good. To have no disappointments or regrets at all is a rare thing.
400 isn't many , it's not even broken in lol. I am jealous though this is a sweet bike i'm sure.
I believe that MOST of the “it’s so boring” comments come from people who don’t actually ride.
If you can’t have fun with a z650 because the engine is slightly less peppy than an MT07, you’re doing something wrong.
They are the people that drive in straight lines
@@matt59fire You're a person who talks about "driving" a motorcycle
@aluisious I'm the type of person who doesn't correct people on small changes in speech like a 🤓🤡. Should I say "ride" to make you calm down?
@@jth_printed_designsso ktm, aprilia rs660, triumph street twin, gsx8s and so on are all boring bikes with boring inline 2 cyl motors?!
@@jth_printed_designs my car inline4 engine is as boring as it can get...also, my old b1200 motor was powerful but boring turbine like power delivery. My old 500cc honda paralel twin was slower but more fun to rev and use. I think its a matter of opinion and past experiences. To me, a loud and slow vtwin is a lot more boring and annoying than a basic liquid cooled 70hp parallel twin than can do 0 to 60 in 4 seconds or less
I have this bike and got it as soon as it was announced, yes based solely on the looks! 100% form over function! I know the Z650 is reliable and got fine power for me, and with this bike’s sweet looks I was sold! People say the engine and set up is boring, and that usually dominates the reviews, “why doesn’t it have a different firing order like the Yamaha” etc etc etc, really there are so many bikes with the trendy 270 crank that a 180 is almost interesting! I love the bike! Confirmation bias? Convincing myself of the purchase? To a degree… Absolutely! Where I live we have no Royal Enfields, and Triumph are twice as expensive as in other markets, so it makes this bike a better purchase! I do wish that it had a better looking exhaust like the Z900RS, and the it’s beyond me why they didn’t put fake cooling fins on the engine, the same engine on the 650 Vulcan S has them, and the Z900RS has them. Not sure how long this bike will be for this world, with Yamaha, and now Honda and even Suzuki with more modern and trendy engine platforms, maybe Kawasaki will go the same way with their 650 platform.
I feel like I literally wished this bike into existence. I loved how z900rs looked, but it was out of my price range.
Even when I bought my previous Kawasaki I was asking the dealership will they make 650 version of z900rs.
I've owned z650rs for over a year and I still get excited when seeing, or riding it. I love it.
Btw I have a green/gold color way.
These Z650RS's will be selling used for less than $6K in 2 years. Already seeing the Z900RS for less than $8K used.
Even the 650rs seems to be out of a lot of people's price range. I'm thinking a z400rs could be cool
The color of the bike you got is absolutely amazing!!! Enjoy the ride fren!!!
So you like your 650RS? I am considering one. Thanks Brian
Daily Rider is some of the best motorcycle content on the internet. Thank you for producing this kind of content. It is nice to see different bikes being run through the same course and compared using similar situations. Keep it up!
Great review!
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did you ask chatgpt to make a marketing spiel lmao
@@thechampofwhatever funny
It lacks a voice. I like Kawasaki bikes. I noticed their are a couple of styling tidbits from the Triumph Bonneville. Put a small wind screen on it and a couple of canvas saddle bags and away we gooo! Vaughn
Agree! It might sound cheesy, but based on their video content - especially the extended trips with Zach and Ari - I’m proud to be a Revzilla customer and to help support them.
Best looking motorcycle to go on Daily Rider. Was hoping Zac would do the Z900RS.
You read my mind! 👍
Yes, agree, that would be so interesting!
I've emailed them about doing. Retro naked episode. Everyone seems to of ire the poor Z900rs. I absolutely love mine.
About the upright seating position, I've found that a slightly more forward leaning position is more comfortable on a long journey because an upright back takes the full brunt of gravity and the bumps on the road.
Oh yeah... my back kills on straight upright bikes.
I love this bike, great review. Just mind boggling how 600-700 class bikes are now $10k out the door.
It's inflation great?
@@krunchie101 ???
Isn’t greed great
Yeah it’s a bummer. 5 years ago I got an almost brand new SV650 for under 5,000. The ergos were too sporty for me but it was otherwise a fantastic bike.
The pricing sucks.
Zack, Ya gotta get your hands on the 900RS for the daily ride. Instant leaderboard topper for sure!
They just want so much for them to me you wait 5 years you get it for 8k instead of 14k. These z650s also cost a lot. 10k is a lot thats like used indian scout money for the scout 60.
No, thank you Zack for answering my question! And yes i did came to this conclusion, it's not 35% less bike, but the 900 (yes i do own one) is worth the extra price (if that makes sense)!
I ride this bike Z650RS for half of year now and it's really fun 😊
Awesome review really appreciate that you put these up on Saturday, I can't think of anything else I like better than eating breakfast drinking some coffee and watching the next daily rider experience !! 😊 happy boy
I often feel like a lousy motorcyclist because I can’t wheelie or back it in. But Zack has been riding his whole life and I’ve only been riding a year and a half. The main thing is we all enjoy it.
I was deciding between this bike and the Bonneville T100. If Kawasaki kept the green gas tank and offered the red gas tank as a regular option I most likely would have gotten this one. But I ended up with the Bonnie. And honestly I think the Bonneville is much better for my skill level. Really good fueling (not herky jerky at all) and a lot milder of a riding experience. As Zack would say, very approachable.
Wheelies can be hard but honestly backing it in is pretty simple you just smash the rear break lmao.
If you find your letting the rear end out too much or not stopping fast enough just supplement with front break.
I've been riding for 15 years and I still struggle to wheelie so don't beat yourself up. The Bonneville is a great bike too.
I wish they put the Ninja 636 inline 4 in this . That would be a winner. I rode a 1978 KZ 650 for 31 years and loved it and it never let me down.
kz650 IS the always under-rated trooper of the vintage bike world...own and have owned several Love 'em
I had prejudice against this 180 parallel twin until I rented a Ninja 650 and rode Angeles Crest…when you have that engine in the upper power band, it really sings
Thanks Zack. Having watched most of your reviews I went and bought a Z650 RS 50th anniversary model today.
Congratulations, great looking bike!
I just got the 2022 version (colour scheme and signal lights shape are the only differences I noticed) brand new from a dealership for around 7,200 USD*.
I sold my RE Int 650 for it, and the only pros of the RE vs. the Z650RS are:
1. stock engine and exhaust look and sound way better
2. smoother shifting (the latter does have a snatchy throttle at 1st and 2nd gear, too, though that disappears when you hit 3rd gear)
3. I feel safer going fast on the expressways (because the RE is terribly heavier, which, ironically, is the main reason I sold it)
Overall still super happy with my choice.
The Z650RS meets all my needs whether it be city commute or long rides to the beach.
It's light, nimble, conveniently sized to easily lane split with, enough power to overtake and/or have fun (I could go on for days)
*bought cash and I registered it myself (60% cheaper and 100% faster vs. the amount the dealership charged for handling the registration themselves). Cost of registration and insurance included in the 7,200 price
I really took this video into consideration before purchasing this motorcycle. I was fortunate enough to get this bike on sale $1500 off! So basically purchased it for sticker price with all the dealer fees. Just did the dreaded manufacture break in procedure, and I’m really surprised by how responsive this thing is all around! Night and day between my CBR 600RR. Thanks so much for your review!
This bike is the best use for this engine
When Zack says, “I have high expectations …” the chance of a footless stop fudge-up becomes a) 100% b) 101% c) 102%
My brother just bought one this week. I felt like it was a Ferrari when I got on it. I ride a Grom. Time to upgrade myself. The power was so fun.
Another awesome review Zach it’s hard to knock off the sv 650 … I just want you to know your daily rider and you reviews are undeniably the best and I swear you better then a professional actor your personality and the video quality is hands down the best and I trust all of your opinions with all the knowledge you have and experience!!!
If I was younger that would be my set of wheels, had the ZRX 1100 a few years back, miracle I didn’t kill my self on it, so fast, like a drug with so much power. Loved that machine even after some 10 day road trips. Had Kawasaki’s on and off for over 50 years, every one left their mark. Great bikes. 😎
I got this as my first bike last year and, despite some of the downsides Zach talks about--which I agree with--I feel like I could have done much worse for a pick.
The biggest downsides in my experience are the fuel tank size because in west Texas towns are few and far between, the lack of cruise control can be annoying on the highway, and the throttle jerkiness, which--when paired with my lack of experience--has been problematic in the city.
It's definitely like a 8/10 or 9/10 to me.
My Vulcan S, which shares this motor, greatly benefited from a Booster Plug! I never got a power commander but I’m sure that would help the fueling issue even further! Enjoy the bike
My first bike was a Rebel 1100 but I did my motorcycle license courses and exam o a Z650. I also think they are a bit jerky, particularly when you're new, but I think they you can get used to it.
As an owner of a Versys 650 I can relate to the snatchy throttle. I do appreciate the Versys’s 5.5 gallon fuel capacity though.
Getting the ECU flashed from people like Ivan's solves that throttle jerk
The SV650 is what I'm learning to ride on at lessons.
Great bike - had one as my first bike which I had for 14 months and did about 14000km. Bullet proof, fun, and more than adequate even on freeways and the track.
Would love to see Zach review a Moto Guzzi V7 or V8. I wanted air cooled retro as a 2nd bike and ended up with a V7. Build quality is questionable but full of character and handles great even with the rear dual shocks
He did the V85 a few years ago, but wasn't too enthusiastic about the Guzzi quality and character, it seems. But I agree, would love Zach to do another run on a V7!
As someone who grew up riding dirt bikes in the 70s I remember these street bikes. I use to walk by the Kawasaki dealer on my way to middle school in the late 70s and dreamed of having one one day. As I grew up cars were more part of my life and didn't ride again until 2018. In my opinion besides Triumph, Kawasaki has the best-looking retros in the Z650Rs and Z900Rs.
I purchased the OG in 77 in Gun metal and loved it. I like how Kawi uses the style of the 650 lettering from the original your spot on with the cockpit set up.I bought my 2nd 650 in 82 the color was Ox Blood Red. Both these bikes were bullet proof. I lived in Euclid back in the day, rode out to New Port beach every day to get to my job. I had a white Vetter fairing. When I got on the road, the seas parted thinking I was CHP. I loved those bikes, and I may have to check on these for a longing for the Good Ole Days😎
The kawasaki z650rs the green model with gold wheels. Is a moving work of art. Wonderful bike. A perfect bike. If anything isn't quite right ...is the lack of a crome rear mudgaurd and the rear light fitted to the mudgaurd. But that's it. I would have one straight away
Man, that bike looked like a ton of fun‼️
Great ride & review Zack!💪🏾
Just get the z900rs instead, owned one for a couple years and it’s so much better and not that more money. Bigger tank, better mpgs, more power and looks more filled in.
Still the best bike reviews out there. Love it. A for the bike... The astounding Z900rs ergos, quality and looks get my vote, even with the big bump in price.
The 180 crank sounds bland at idle but sounds nice once the revs pick up. That 650 is bomb-proof.
Agreed. My Versys 300 absolutely howls. Redline's 12k but I've yet to hit a limiter up around 13. F1 cockpit audio.
It sounds awful and it never picks up. Source: I own one. Parallel twins are shit. Especially Kawasaki's "effort."
@@JDWDMC Must be something wrong with yours. I had a 650 Versys that moved out just fine.
@@blipco5 Fine is the best you can say about it. Barely adequate is a better description. Mines a Versys 650 as well. Every other bike I've owned has had a better engine. Every parallel twin I've ever ridden including Honda's new 1100s are agricultural and underwhelming. Manufacturers have defaulted to them because they are a cheap interim engine while they sort out BEV and hybrid powerplants for bikes. Get on ANY Triumph triple including the restricted 660cc bikes and the difference between a Kawasaki parallel twin and a real engine is stark. My Versys 650 has the distinction of being the bike that will end my riding career because anything I can afford to replace it with that I'm comfortable on is a parallel twin. I'm not paying to be disappointed again.
@@JDWDMC I wish the Kawi 650 was a 270 degree crank as they sound a little more exiting but here’s something you probably don’t know about the Kawi 650 twin… It has a cassette style gearbox same as MotoGP race bikes! That means, should something go wrong, you can remove the transmission from the engine without splitting the cases while leaving the engine in the frame! How’s that for apples? The Versys has a top speed of about 130 mph. If that’s not fast enough for you then Ducati makes V twins that really boogie. Or better yet, try an find that early 2000's MZ with the 1000cc parallel twin. Reading the reviews at the time, it outperformed the Japanese liter bikes.
Great Episode once again Zach, thank you.
When taking about fuel range, fuel capacity, seat height, weight and the rest of the numbered specs, it would be nice to have the metric equivalent pop up on the screen for rest of us viewers across the ocean. Thank you! Keep it up!
The moment all parallel twins are 90 or 270 degree cranks, people will start complaining about how they all sound the same, and some company will make a V-twin with dual cranks giving a 180 degree effective crank angle. hehe! Complaining is fun though, it really is!
No, that's stupid.
A syncopated beat is more interesting than a steady beat, period.
Since kawasaki "standarized" all of their dash with that tft unit one, I grew to prefer the z900rs and z650rs dash
at least they have some kind of character to it.
Not just character. The tft display doesn't age well. 40 year old needles still look great. Early screens now are painful. I would rather have no screen than an old screen with hardly any features. Seen a 12 year old car with built in satnav ?
Kawasaki has an "Extended Reach Seat" with more padding, if that is of interest to taller people. In some other countries, that is the standard stock seat. My guess is that Kawasaki considers this to be considered an intermediate or smaller person bike in the US market so the more dished out seat makes sense. Being short, I am glad that Kawasaki tends to lean towards lower seats. It is a lot easier to add padding than to lower the suspension or mod the frame.
One thing is for sure, the swiss army knife of a bike, the SV650 sounds like no other !!! First bike I ever bought, it served me well.
Picked one of these up in Feb and love it. Great daily rider!
I'd EASILY have one if it had a decent tank. I don't know what's up with manufacturers that made them decide that modern bikes don't need autonomy. I might be suspicious to say so because I hate stopping for fuel, but why not give it an 18-litre tank? Thanks for another excellent video, Zack!
Can’t wait to see Zach review the ninja650!
It is an exceptionally pretty bike.
Z900RS next, please! Thank you!
And for goodness sakes Zack please do the cafe version.
I own a Versys 650 (2020) with the same engine.
It's kind of boring when you just cruise around at 4k rpm (the gearbox is louder than the engine) but it makes a lot of fun at 5-6k and above.
The intake sound is great and it works absolutely fine in every situation that are legal on publich streets.
The only thing, that annoys me, is the throttle response...as Zack already mentioned.
But beside that..everything is great :)
I appreciate Zack moving the pallet to the side of the road without blocking the gutter and without throwing it onto the grass and ruining the grass
in my opinion would have been better out of the road completely...it could still be hit on the edge of the pavement like that.
Best to have it completely off the road - I prefer people and no wrecks over grass!
I’d love to see you review a W800!!
6:15 - Someone thought about that. Look at the needles on the gauges. Properly done. Unfortunately, many manufactures miss that. Well done, Kawasaki!
That’s a sharp-looking bike. Too bad it’s let down by a jerky throttle and buzziness. My Vulcan S has those same two shortcomings; annoying, to be sure, but I bought the bike anyway. Go figure. The Kawasaki 650 engine is an excellent powerplant otherwise. Boring it isn’t, at least not in my book. The Z650RS looks like an excellent daily rider. Thanks for presenting this video.
iirc remap can remove the jerky throttle
Can't really blame the manufacturers. The Euro compliance thing is such a hassle. ECU flash is the way to go
Idk if this is pretty universal, but I fixed a jerky throttle response on my royal Enfield 650 with a booster plug. Super easy.
@@derp195 I tried a Booster Plug in my Vulcan. It had little to no positive effect, and I noticed a drop in fuel economy. I removed it.
@@sdpicturecard6858 That's too bad. I didn't notice any change in fuel economy with the RE, and it runs like a completely different bike. Like it was sick before.
Amazing to see the SV650 still heading the leaderboard.
That radiator looks like an afterthought and was just thrown on there.
Does look awful. The sell some overpriced covers that fit on the side. But it just looks attached on the a few bolts never belonged there. The cap is horrible and the pipes just join on like they added it after it was forgotten.
Cooling? Who needs cooling,
Such a beautiful looking bike. I think they got the styling spot on.
Really love the chrome grab rail in the add ons list. And the green with the gold wheels looks great
Looks massively better in the green with the gold wheels
the question about picking parts from various bikes, i would love to see that expanded when reviewing other bikes
Very cool to see this review. I assume the US spec is the full power version and not the A2 compliant spec we have in Australia. I know looks are very subjective and a matter of personal taste, for me, z650rs is so far ahead of the sv650 it’s not even a real comparison. Just not a fan of how they sound with stock exhaust, but having heard ninja 650s with a decent slip on, I’m sure it would be a easy fix
These models are some of the best retro inspired bikes out there. I wish Mfr's would forego the outdated hardware though... (blinker housing, tach, etc.)
I wish MF'rs keep the 'outdated' tech on a retro bike
W800 for a true wheelie challenge.
Also, is it just me, or is Zack's riding getting better every video?
These are sharp bikes. If I didn’t already have a standard-ish bike, I’d look at buying one of these for a fun commuter and runabout machine.
The only thing fun about a Kawasaki 650 twin is the fun they suck out of riding.
My local dealer has last year's model for $7149 so I'm trying to decide between that and the Vulcan S. I really love the style of the RS.
I hope you jumped all over that 650 deal!
I can't wait until Kawasaki comes out with 400cc version of this, perhaps a zx-400RR-RS. I would find that amazing.😄
Yeah that would be sick
I just bought a 2024 Kawasaki Eliminator 450. Super fun and comfortable bike that I think would fit what you're looking for.
Loved the iceberg wedge analogy. Solid riff!
great! I would love to see z900rs on daily rider!!!!
I absolutely love my w650 as a beginner. Now I'm pretty curious about this z650rs
I've been waiting for this review for a long time. I love Kawasaki, I love the old KZ models of the '70's, and this bike does such a good job representing those bikes while being modern and relevant. It just blows my mind that it costs as much as the Z900RS did when it was first released, and is only a couple thousand less than it now. The Z900 is an awesome bike too but it's really too much bike for me, ~400 lb sporty bikes are where it's at IMO. Even though I like this bike a lot more than the few other retro options out there right now, it's just too darn expensive. I feel like if this bike were priced more aggressively it would get a lot more riders into the Kawasaki ecosystem. Still, I'm really glad that it rides as good as it looks.
It's also a wheezing slug, unlike Kawasakis of yore.
Inflation. It's the only way governments can pay down their debts. As always the average Joe suffers most.
@@JDWDMC No, no it isn't. I own one. Owned everything from 250cc to 1450cc and everything in-between, including a 77 KZ650. This bike rocks. Sub 12.5 second 1/4 mile, 412lbs wet. A mid-range wayyy better than old inline fours. And sounds awesome when you crack the throttle in a way people watching videos can never know.
No offense to anyone, I just find the internet criticism of this particular bike bizarre.
Even worse, in Australia, Kawasaki only sell it as a HP restricted LAMS machine, so you end up paying 85% of the Z900RS price for less than half the horsepower. No deal
@@stevewelebny2749 I agree, this bike makes nearly 20 more HP than my 78 KZ750 Twin and weighs less too. And I have seen reports of huge gains with an exhaust, secondary throttle delete and remap, like 10-15 more HP which is really impressive. I still wish it wasn't so expensive, lol.
Analog cluster ❤❤❤
How refreshing 😊
Random question but can I get some details on the jacket you’re wearing?
Kawasaki would be so much more competitive with Yamaha if they would update the 650 engine. Imagine an updated 700 twin more similar to the CP2. The Versys, Ninja, and Z 650 would all be so much better they would sell like crazy.
I don't think they need to make it any bigger or more powerful, but a 270 degree crank for the better sound would be awesome. I love the Vulcan S and the Z650RS but they are let down by their sound.
A good looking bike with a solid if uninteresting engine. But, my eyes keep getting drawn to that ugly ass radiator cap.😂 And thats a beautiful 66 Chevelle at 13:23.
Nice ride-along as always. This Kawi is a sweet bike. It's slender tank is reminiscent for me of one of my favs from the seventies, the Yamaha 650 twin. That Yami was, at that time, an effective competitor with the Triumph 650s of the seventies. I was impressed with your 650 dream bike choice being the engine from the Royal Enfield NT650. Yes, it's a fun, retro engine.
Love your work Zack
40 MPG, I have no clue of how 😅 I avaraged 65 mpg with the 07 Versys 650 I had (which I believe is the first year of this engine).
Also, not in this nor any other universe out there I would pay $9k for this bike with its 16 year old lawnmower engine.. It would however be an amazing choice if it had a detuned, short gearing 636cc ZX6R engine.
But the most unobtainable dream I have atm is a Z400RS with the new ZX4RR 4cyl 😁
I wish more bikes had a short stock exhaust like that and the CB.
Finally a review that agrees with my assessment of the very un-smooth quickshifter. I was using the clutch on my test ride to smooth out ride... enjoyed the bike overall though...
I have the 23 Z 650 for the money it’s a nice bike, so it the RS 👍🏻
I have a regular Z650 and I agree with basically all of Zach's points and like... emotional criticism. The bike is good. You can't really say it's not good. But there's *SOMETHING* missing. Or lacking a little. And it's hard to put your thumb on exactly, but honestly I think it's giggle factor that's lacking.
Great bike though.
The Japanese make very reliable bikes. But often times they lack the heft and charm of European bikes. If you compare it to something like a Triumph Street Twin, you will see a big difference in build quality. The Triumph just feels more weighty and solid. The Japanese bikes feel more like an artificial retro, with a lot of plastic parts.
I have the Z400, and in doubt between the CB650R and the Z650rs... Please consider reviewing the CB too!!! Thanks! Huge fan
I just brought one and love the thing especially the induction sound when under power …. It is intoxicating. 😉
Good review, as always. Regarding the on/off throttle response I've found with my Versys 650 increasing the idle rpm to 1400 to 1500 and ensuring the chain is correctly adjusted helps a lot. Or maybe I'm just used to it after 33000 miles 😁
Boring engine? Certainly, it doesn't have a deep sound, and the fact that the Akra exhaust costs a fortune is a real shame. However, noise aside, between 5,000 and 9,000 RPM it pushes hard, definitely more than a Triumph 900. In any case, it's sufficient for many, like myself, who use the bike for commuting during the week and for enjoying a ride on Sunday mornings through the hills of northern Italy.
And... forgot to mention... it handles as light as a Vespa!
"Which bike is more approachable." Good remark!
When can we except the Z900SE and ZH2SE to appear on DR?
What a handsome bike. Bucket list entry
As a daily rider the cb500x trumps the z650 in versatility, wind protection, price, fuel range and operating cost plus it is a fun bike to ride in spite of the little 471 cc
mill's 178 cc disadvantage. The z costs too much like a iceberg wedge that was served without enough bacon bits and tomatoes.
So the tractor has gone retro :D I really like the combination analog gauges with a digital gear indicator.
P.S. How are the chances to see the Honda CB 650 R joining the comparison?
Tractor 😂
My friends that had old er6, says its handle like tractor and throttle really hard to control
I just test road a 650 RS today. It's good I came across this video. I really liked the dashboard and analog dials. As in I really liked the analog dials and the digital dashboard. I really did not like the seat. On the test bike the handlebars were set just a bit too far forward and the riding position was almost 650 Z like and not a traditional 70's retro bike. In other words, it put a lot of stress on my forearms with the forward lean. Another inch up and rotated back would of been a bit more comfortable. My last complaint was the forward tilt of the whole bike. I wonder if the rear shock/spring could be adjusted to take out that forward tilt ? In other words, lower the rear of the seat a bit. Another solution would be a larger (taller) front wheel.
The brakes were very good and the bike cornered well. I did not feel that "buzzing" that Zach talked about. There are a lot of positives and some simple solutions that would make long distance cruising possible should Kawasaki want to make some simple changes. In the current form of the bike I road, it's a town bike but not a long distance road ranger.
great review as always. I think it's a great all arounder, like my versys 650, with the added benefit of looking really good instead of ADV weird. yes that tank is too small. I don't much get all the moaning about the 180 crank either, but like you said, it might be partly your fault for promoting that anyway. also, actually enjoy your approach to your sponsors, which kind of reminds of the old timey host based commercials of 50s tv. keep up the great work.
Really hoping for a Z400RS.
You want a 650
@@TheAnnoyingBoss I'd love to see a 400 next
I was looking at a Triumph Bonneville 120 the other day because I was considering getting into motorcycles. It was parked on kind of an incline and I was just trying to sit on it to see if the size of the bike would be a good fit for me. I raised my left foot to the foot rest and kept my right foot down. The left side of the bike was angled at about 45 degrees to the downward side of the incline. The bike start to lean to the right and I had a hard time holding it up but was able to. I had put the stand fully down after I was able to stabilize the bike upright. It kind of startled me and made me question if I needed to work on my leg strength before I tried a motorcycle. I'm middle-aged and this is the first time I've looked at a motorcycle. It may just be the way the bike was parked at the dealership and mistake I made but because I've had a few health problems in recent years and don't have the strength I used to, it made me question / doubt myself as far as a motorcycle is concerned and I felt kind of stupid about it. So glad I was able to hold the bike and keep it from falling. I would have been extremely embarassed if it had. I didn't think I was doing anything careless or that anyone looking at a bike for the first time wouldn't do. I'm thinking that since the Z650RS is about 30 lbs lighter than the Bonneville, it might be a good choice as a first bike but I really like the Bonneville too.
I like the style of the Z650RS as well but haven't looked at one yet. I'm also interested in a Bonneville T100.
Could you please tell me what you think about what I described and what you think about the T100, T120, and Z650RS for a new middle aged person 6'3" average build?
I would hope that the MSF Basic Rider course would increase my confidence and help get all the fundamentals I would need to ride safely.
I would really appreciate some advice.
Would you be able to make a daily rider review for the Husqvarna Vitpilen 401?
I think Kawasaki does create some good retro looking motorcycles. The Z650RS does look retro that was brought into todays technology. Kawasaki even made the W800, and it looks even more retro, but the Z650RS is like a retro naked bike, if there is such a category.
Great video as always, I've been watching your content for a while here in the UK. The Zed looks ok but with 29inch inside leg is still too tall for me to feel comfortable. The trend these days seems to be bikes for tall riders. The clocks and bars could do with some chrome. It looks a bit cheap but at over 9k it isn't. From your comments about the seat, seems to be another pain in the ass trend. The seat on my Versys 650 MK2 is similar. I have managed no more than 100 miles without discomfort. Gone are the days of my 1990 s Zed 1000 and GTR. Must be my age😊
"For the retro bike they've gone back to the traditional round shape [for the rotors]...the mirrors are quite round."
Yeah bro, those... are circles, lol.
Anyway, how does Kawi justify this price? For the premium they're charging, in this class you could either buy a more refined/over-engineered Honda, or a more equipped/capable Yamaha. The aesthetics are this bike's only trump card over the competition... as nice as they are, I don't know if that's enough (for me).
Great video, keep em coming!
For me it would be great if I got it used a 1500 + cheaper.
@@leeinwis I was looking for a z900rs, and even used it was still $10,500 for anything under 10k miles. I ended up buying a 2014 vfr800 with 3k miles for like 7k. I just couldn’t pay 50% more for less bike.
I have the 2019 versys 650 and it makes me proud that its still on the clssics leader board ☺️
I just picked up a used 2015 Versys for $5500 with 2,500 miles. It's spotless and *_green._* Has the bags and real Barkbusters and the Givi front crash bars. Other than the ho-hum exhaust sound it's an awesome bike. I put a National Cycle tall screen on it. The buffeting was too much noise, now it's fine. Nice bike.
@@marscruz great choice 👍🏻
Yep.....The Yamaha 650 Seca was the Equal of this nice running Kawasaki Z650....Have ran many drags and 2 milers in California back in the Early 80's. Both bikes are very nice. Chain drives will always top out higher than shaft drives. The down side of 2 cylinders -- way too much amount of Vibration! The Yamaha XJ650 had almost no vibration at high RPM's.....and the Kawasaki you're riding now -- a ball number! Any 550 cc to 650 cc engine builds are very stable and have longevity. That would be 2 or 4 cylinders.