I honestly feel sick right now. I feel like my favorite game just "died" in my heart. I really feel like it could have been so much better, and it will never reach that potential. I have some videos I still want to make, but I really don't even feel like playing at the moment. I am really upset about this news.
was watching you react to this live with tectone earlier today, i can only imagine how bad it felt editing this video. would love to see you interact with your community or play a different game for a breath of fresh air. we'll get through this together brother
just accept it mtashed, 90% of genshin players are just casuals that never clears abyss, nor have heard the term theorycrafting, the only way you can change their perspective is when they start to lose money, but then, they might just go work on a different game instead
Sorry but that "Potential" is not what players see. It's what the developers see. And as Chinese developers, they have no obligation or care to listen to Americans like you so shut up Baizou.
@@elpapito7940 they have Zenless Zone Zero and Honkai Star Rail already. And it looks like Zenless Zone Zero is the sweaty Try hard game for People like Mtashed
It's really ironic to say that they don't want to give players anxiety, when their whole game model is based on FOMO, which creates anxiety on players due to them not being able to get a certain character
guess im the only one who has had zero issue with this tho i looked up a farming route,doing this by simply finding them would be hell so for all those that found them without a guide kudos
With Albedo getting a rerun I have so much anxiety cause he's one of my favorite characters and I want him so bad, but I took an extended break from 2.1 to 2.6 so I don't have cinnabar. My anxiety is through the roof, will HYV fix it?
@@MythicAce218 if you're comfortable with watching 1 hour of guides. That's a you good thing. My friends hate it so much they went to my world desperate for some Scarabs.
Yeah they asked great questions and hoyo gave the exact same answer for everything: “our game is amazing, our game is perfect, nothing is going to change our formula.”
@@slaine7874 Basically non-answers hahaha I kinda wish the interviewers asked about a dialogue skip button. I'm sure Hoyo wouldn't add one but I just want that thought put to rest in my head lol.
@@slaine7874 well as long as people pay 1k per banner for those 1000+ wishes to get C6 and a weapon why change what is giving the big bucks just focus on other projects its simple business the only time something big will change is if the money starts dropping it's current amount
“We didn’t want to make people anxious!” Mihoyo says after releasing the most anxiety inducing video game news in history gaslighting their entire player base.
@@etam8099 Theres a fundamental flaw in the game design. Honkai doesn’t require you to buy and build characters to advance the story. in Genshin you MUST deal enough dmg or survive to complete certain quests or simply progress. So for them to say combat isnt a focus in genshin when they sell characters specifically for combat and team building aspects is hypocritical and very contradictory.
Not getting more resin is just ridiculous. Each new area brings in 3 or more domains 2-4 bosses and 1-2 world bosses. It’s absurd that we won’t get any more resin after a few more areas
Well to hoyo you don't have to worry since all you need is two decently invested character. No point to min-maxing or trying to challenge yourself with progress you've made. There's no point so don't care about resin and other shiz. -hoyoverse
@@TJ_Sind2000 While I agree you dont need to minmax, I still need the extra resin & resources to raise new charas to play with or I will lose my mind using the same 2 charas all the time.What's the point of this 50+ chara roster if you only use 2 of them? & these charas need books, mora, mats, artifacts, weapons etc. I've stopped minmaxing, I am satisfied if I get some decent workable stats & talent lvls on my charas but even that takes forever to accomplish
@@TJ_Sind2000 This makes me wonder is there much appeal in pulling for characters. Since all 5 and 4 stars recently are dull kit wise. Cyno & Heizo was the last funwise in game. So now the only reason I'll personally pull is for design(ok kit) or hype kit.
I really want to appreciate the journalist for asking a number of perfect questions. This answers a lot about their plans and game design philosophy, as well as where the game is headed. Normally they would be content with asking "random fact about a character haha" or "wow that's a lot of content, how many hours do you sleep haha" but the questions here are worth celebrating, even if the answers where beyond disappointing
@@AA-cf4es I'm sure Mihoyo did their homework. They're the only ones with access to all the Genshin statistics as proven in their web event. Unfortunately, the truth is not kind to everyone. In this particular case, the endgame wanters are at the short end of the stick.
@@amazonworker3107 You say that, but new players can only be farmed for so long. At some point all the remaining players will be endgame players. Their decisions aren't based on what players want, but on maximizing profit. Content takes time to make, characters are extremely cheap and easy. More characters, less content, is maximum profit margins. That's common knowledge for mobile game players.
@@Loserstakethebait That is such a bad take. There are tons of gacha games who has far less content than genshin impact. Designing a map itself is already a difficult task to do. In addition to that, they need to add different kind of game mechanics into the map, need to add story behind the map. And please tell me how many maps did genshin deliver in last two years? They can easily design 6 or 8 characters per patch and put serveral banners up at the same time, but they did not do that. Can you give a example of another game that add more maps than genshin in the last two years? I played total war three kindom, in two years, they only came up with 4 large dlc, and some of them are really bad, that is the example of treating player as s**t. There are many thing genshin is not good at, but questioning its effort is such a s**t take.
@@yipugao1155 yk what’s a shittier take? Yours. Cuz name a gacha game who earned billions over the pandemic? Genshin. And they have all the resources to do better, but they choose not to because they know they can earn more money doing fuck all because people still pay for c6 characters even though they have nothing to use them on. They’d rather expand their brand and collab with cars companies then do anything related to the actual game
The anxiety bit is calculated. They don't want to give the players more anxiety, but they are absolutely comfortable with the current amount. That anxiety only exists because of the resin and artifact systems. The limited resin is mostly focused into artifact grinding, artifacts are unrewarding 95% of the time, and artifacts are required to make characters functional/good. They are unwilling to make improvements because the game as it stands has been lucrative and they have no incentive to change course.
True that, If it wasn't as lucrative compared to the effort made by the devs (they spend their time making tcg and mini game events lol, art department is on FIRE though), I think they'd be heavily focused on the end game content right now to entice spending. Just take this game as what it is, a fun visual novel with immersive world and great art, you'll be better off, never understood people who care about the ''meta'' when 99% of the time you are fighting hilichurls that die before you even able to do a full team rotation.
yup fomo is good anxiety because it makes them money rng is good anxiety because it makes them money end game is bad anxiety because majority of the player base dont care and it doesn't make them money
For the skin, when I was doing Ayaka quest where she tried to give you Kimono(if I remember correctly), I though I'm gonna get a new skin for Traveler but then they just went with "this costume is already good" statement. Also I couldn't agree more on why they don't make more skin because they can make even more money on that and it will be completely different from how you need to pay for characters (if you need) since it's just for someone's desire who wants their characters look beautiful.
Hey for those who don't know, there was a limited side quest in the earlier years of genshin where they literally revealed the secrets of the universe and that quest went away and a lot of players don't have the context. One example of how they include lore in limited events everyone won't experience.
they could add something? like a replay for the events story? kinda like story quests, That would be cool. or add books in game that's 5 star? and same with the weapons like dodoco tails, They could make you but it? don't know how much for tho, Maybe 500 sigils? then 50 per refinements??
Yeah, that event with Mona, Fischl and Scara was crazy. Also, the one with Albedo that even give him a Bis sword. And well, people are not going to have that sword even with his rerun
What was the event? What lore did they reveal? I’m always wondering who the travellers are - are they gods or fallen stars, clearly some powerful entities given they can use all the elements without visions.
So what they basically said was: "We dont plan on bringing a proper endgame content, the resin cap ain't going anywhere, the limited time cutscenes aren't important, we dont wanna give traveller skins , new reactions will be too complex for players"
That's the most depressing part about this interview. Interviewer: So hoyo will you ever improve these aspects of the game players ask Hoyoverse: No not really, Maybe, or We're thinking about it but haven't decided how yet. Like damn if they aren't doing anything in the question yet what have they been improving. Like I haven't seen much big improvement other than reactions or world interaction things. Truly depressing
I'm the same as you Mtashed. In about 3 weeks I'll be AR 60, I have every current character in the game, quite a few 5 star weapons, 36 star the abyss with ease, have spent countless hours achievement grinding, exploring the lore, talking to the NPCs, making all of the recipes, fishing, getting exploration to 100%... and reading this interview made me sit back and be like.... what have I spent hundreds of hours doing this for? I plan to quit once I reach that AR milestone until the main storyline is fully complete. If I even care at that point since that is years away. It's a major disappointment how tone deaf they are and how little care they have for the majority of what their playerbase wants. Most of us are AR 55 - 60, are they really going to alienate the majority of the community? It's sad and a real travesty to watch a game with so much potential get flushed down the toilet by incompetent decision-makers.
in the exact same interview they have already stated you are a minority. lol. I'm going to play devils advocate and say the main reason I quit Destiny 2 was the raid was annoying and the endgame was all about getting the best loot and being very good on the game. if genshin actually gets an endgame depending on how difficult it is I may also get burn out and lose interest. it's a perfect game for me to be casual about it.
Honestly I blame the tiktok, twitter, and reddit community for it. They’re the ones who keep pushing the same agenda that since Genshin is a casual game then it has to be casual for everyone else as well. Maybe genshin will care once they realize the meta players are the main ones fueling their income, not the casual oned
@@kaein2973 that minority gives most of the money to them. if all whales quit, they would not be happy at all. it costs them 200 mil. a year to run this game. they would need 4mil. players that buy the welkin regularly just to break even.
I'd say quit now while you're ahead. If you're wondering why did you spend all these hours, then follow that statement up with "I'm planning on quitting years down the line" that's more time spent that you will never get back. More than you've already spent on this game. Think of all the story line possibilities they could possibly go down, do you really think the story of Genshin Impact is going to be a once in a life time epic piece of fantasy writing? The siblings will be reunited and the bad guys will be defeated. The developers will want to keep the mainline story going for as long as possible trying to keep people like you playing. This company will never be more generous and never be more respectful of your time. There are tons of other games out there to experience.
@@kaein2973 Exactly. Obviously, I want the game could be better in the future and get more content, but if you are not enjoying the game and its content right now, it is not your game and is better to quit. You shouldn't play with the hope, that the game could change in the future because you could be frustrated. You can be objective and critical of the content of the game and developers, but at the same time you have to accept it.
Interviewer: Players have vocalized a strong interest in this potential feature. Any plans to add it or even just pursue it as a possibility? HYV: No. I cannot believe they agreed to this interview.
the only ppl that are complaining about this are ppl with too much time on their hands. If you have nothing to do in genshin, you are playing like 8+ hours a day lmao
@@autumnsphere7581 Eh. That was half a joke and half serious. At least they just said they can't be bothered rather than pull an EA and pretend they care what we think.
Most games died when the devs started focusing on being more inviting towards newcomers rather than satisfying the players who are already playing the game
yk, especially ACs, OG assassins creed players hate the way they made ACs now(from a story based parry and counter gameplay to RPG Grindy based game), and rn ubisoft is slowly learning from their mistake by making Mirage,
Not really. Literally like 5% of the playerbase max actually wants endgame content. A majority of players literally dont care. Not to mention CHINA, their MAIN money grab literally DOES NOT care for endgame in the slightest, and wants story and lore more than endgame
@@YaToGamiKuro I still have little hope for mirage, Ubisoft has proven themselves to be one of the scummiest AAA developers lately so even if it’s a return to form I still might not get it to prove a point and just play the ezio collection
well, ive been encouraging friends to start playing genshin, and with every banner that comes out, they ask "hey, who should i pull for?" - and every time i have to say "not the inazuma characters, or sumeru desert characters, because you won't be able to ascend them until later. they're just gonna catch dust on your character shelf" and its sad, really - they're not making the game friendlier for new players/newcomers at all.
It's not like Genshin can be newcomer friendly when someone might get Yae in like AR16 and have to go through all three regions and the Enkanomiya quest. Or many of the story events locked away by AR.
How ironic is it that Mtashed describing his feelings “of not caring” anymore or “not having ambition” for the game is similar to a character having their “Vision” taken from them. We literally fought against an Electro God just to prove how wrong it was to rip that away from someone. It feels as if we’re all having our Visions taken, a game that is supposed to celebrate ambition and the courage to become stronger has left us feeling like there is no need to become greater than we were yesterday.
@@Alex-vv2ud its funny because it doesnt do any of that and none of them are mutually exclusive and who says your opinion is more important than everyone else's?
@@GraveUypo Game story easily beat 90% AAA games. So even considering game lore and world alone there is tons of content to finish, even I'm at ar55 there is lots to do.(i know starting too late make my opinion different than most and maybe there is answer) Spiral Abyss is just addition to complete regions and can't be finished 100%.
@@Alex-vv2ud Most of the story of genshin sucks. Only some of mondstadt and most of the liyue are good. Inazuma was really rushed and for now, Sumeru is good... The lore on the other part makes the game REALLY SHINE. Plus yeah, there's a lot of things to do but, for me, searching for chest just to get 2 or 5 primos isn't fun at all. The combat system is godly yet there's nothing but the abyss to have fun with it and the abyss is probably the worst because it's only artificial difficulty. More combat based content, doesn't have to be hard, would really improve genshin.
To me best course of action is treating it as a interactive manga that has a new chapter every few weeks, play it, then putting it aside again till next update. Unless you're an average Mini Game enjoyer
@@RichardHowin exactly. this game demands too much from players for the responsibility to be on us to enjoy the game. they need to make it enjoyable like all other games do!
Treating like a story and nothing else is pretty silly because you may as well just watch everything on youtube, ironically you would have a better experience as you even see all the limited time stuff
Literally like 5% of the playerbase max actually wants endgame content. A majority of players literally dont care. Not to mention CHINA, their main money grab literally DOES NOT care for endgame in the slightest, and prefer story and lore events. Them focusing on story and lore events is what will keep over 90% of the player base involved
The end game doesn’t have to be like spiral abyss. They could introduce a multiplayer dungeon run with 3 boss fight and really good boss mechanics that 4 players need to cooperate to beat it. Rewards can be artifact or primos and this could be cycle like every two weeks reset like the spiral abyss or weekly.
Yes, exactly, we don't want repetitive gameplay loops bit at least add something new to do with friends... I do know they are adding the tcg game mode so I'll wait and see
A simple defend the point while waves of mobs spawn in, would already be a simple and effective fix to the endgame problem, plus add in coop for that endgame mode and they're done with endgame content for at least the entire year
Genshin's constant stream of events and trying to finish the story to collect all of the rewards in them before the countdown is done is what gives me the most "anxiety"
Too much stuff to do lately tbh, they should slow down on the content a bit. No way casual players can catch up, even if they don't care about doing abyss.
You know, I expected a lot of words and excuses from Hoyoverse about the end game content. I did NOT expect "excessive anxiety" at all. Hoyoverse: "Time restricted events have never taken a player away from knowing the story" Also Hoyoverse: *Explains Albedo's backstory and lore behind how he was artificially created by Dragonspine in a winter themed limited event*
Or how the first time the Traveler got close to meeting their sibling was during a fucking event. Or the introduction of a major antagonist, so many major story beats are lost to new players.
Nah, not knowing supportive Character backstory can never restrict a reader/player for knowing and enjoy the main plot🗿 Edit : Im totally newer player, but never confused with the Story at all🤷, their Story teller is already very good, Back Story from some minor char are not necessary for main story
@@Zkr7 I mean, some important things for the Lore of the World are in limited events, even if don't change the main quest, it's definitely important. And the story teller of they are mid in my opinion
its funny and sad at the same time how they dodge the most important questions. As for the the combat endgame, looks like we're just stuck with abyss. No reason to grind 40 CV artifacts anymore at this point
Sounds totally reasonable and something I should do.... but Im still gonna go grind my daily artifacts later, what can I say, I just like better artifacts XD
I haven’t needed to grind since I made 2 abyss teams. I made 2 other teams, but it just hit me one day. That I never even used those teams cuz the older teams are just unstoppable. I may never need too. It really is just a casual game that looks pretty with waifu’s
The fact that some of the primos are behind spiral abyss causes me anxiety so they are not wrong. I saw many players how hard they think spiral abyss is. Even 5star charas can't win unless you have best arts. Not everyone have the interest spending time with farming arts with such bad drop rate. I have no problem with hard content like spiral abyss but they should not give important currency locked behind it, They may give some interesting cosmetics to give incentive to play,
I think it's time to move on. I love Genshin. I love the world and the characters. I love the story. I can't bring myself to login every day and be disappointed there is nothing to do in my favorite game and there will not be anything to do in the future.
What gives me anxiety in the game is the limited TIME events, and the TIMER When things are timed I get anxious. Not permanent modes that I know I can go to whenever I want .
bro if you have anxiety from voluntary timed events that half of you people skip 90 percent of the cutscenes for anyways, unironically you guys have issues. Mihoyo is doing you all a favor
@@hydrocraftpower another bootlicker lmao. the design of those temporary story events is that they reward you with primos if you complete them, they're time limited so it's not simple for casual players to just dive in on their own pace, AND they arent gonna be experienced ever again after the time is up, so if you've missed on anything, you have to look em up on youtube... everything here pressures the player to rush through the content or else the player will miss on them forever, basically perpetuating fomo. but nah, thinking for three seconds isn't an option for you I suppose
@@hydrocraftpower I mean couldn’t you say the say that people who get anxiety about more endgame content, that is voluntary as well, also have issues? And I think there is even a more reason to get anxiety towards limited time events than there is to get anxiety about an endgame that will always be there. In all though, I think mihoyo doesn’t actually mind anxiety in certain aspects of their game, hence why it’s a gacha in the first place. They’re just focusing on the types of anxieties that will net them more profit and increase overall engagement, and for them, making more endgame is not an anxiety that will be worth the investment.
@@PreciousIvy Casual player here too! There is A LOT more time available than needed for events. Besides, Mihoyo did say they're focusing on making "story" based events available for new players
So much wasted potential on Genshin’s combat system. What’s the point of grinding artifacts and pulling for weapons/constellations if there is no content to use it on.
how Genshin players can get Hoyoverse to fix their shit: 1) give them 1 star reviews like we did during the first anniversary 2) stop whaling on this game for God's sake, they won't listen to your complaints until they're hurt financially
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it." That's Hoyo's philosophy. As long as people spend money, they don't see a need to do more. I'm kinda sad because of relentlessly grinding artefacts for my characters. I kept doing it because I wanted my builds to be the best they could possibly. Exploration and combat are my favourite things in the game. Hearing that there might not be anything that warrants building the strongest characters is nothing but demoralising. The sense of wonder for me died after the first anniversary. I always had hope for genshin but this was the final nail in the coffin for me.
Same, my inazuma is at 55%, everything after at like 10-20%, theres just no point, I just unlock the maps and follow the main story, while spending resin and speedrunning events Now I'm either logging for 10mins forever or straigh up quitting
been playing since day one,i love the story,but most of the drive i have is just gone too :( dashed hopes,will just focus more on tof and honkai and not spend anything in genshin anymore since my account is alredy super strong,no point.ill just slowly save from comission and pull c0 of archons and thats it
@@domb.1522 "you people complain so much" and here you are,complaining about complaining without offering any counter arguement,you sir,truly have 0 iq
"Welcoming newcommers" when every new character is locked behind the newest region. I knew deep down that we will never see endgame. It's just official now and it makes me sad.
this!! my friends who just started playing always ask who to pull for, and the only reply i have is "not inazuma or desert characters, because they will be catching dust" and its so sad, i have to explain everything to them because the game doesn't do a good enough job of it
@@random19273 They said in the interview that their focus is literally events and minigames. So all the time you spent minmaxing your characters in domains is basically useless, since there is barely any place to use it on. Spiral Abyss is piss easy with barely any grind and they consider this really hard content.
@@chrisbokuto4452 And the worst part is that they have no intention to make universal domain with all the materials to level them up. We got Sumeru and yet another set of new mat domains and bs flowers to farm. Just imagine yet another regions adding new ones. It will be even harder for newcommers.
@@random19273 Once one gets to the point of regularly 36-Star clearing the Abyss, the game becomes very bland and the drive to acquire new units takes a nosedive. The game usually only rewards us with Crowns, Mora, Primogems, and Hero's Wits. All of those things become far less valuable once you no longer have a *need* to build or acquire more characters. Suddenly, nearly every single reward is practically pointless, along with every new boss and mob. My experience: I haven't Wished since Kazuha's Re-run, because no units since then have represented an actual upgrade to my account. This means that I don't have a reason to fight the new bosses, unless an Event or the Abyss forces me to. In the latter case, Raiden National just dominates the new boss. New enemies with new drops for new characters and new weapons... none of it matters, and hasn't mattered since I finally reached the point of 36 Stars in June. Even the new Dendro reactions aren't as exciting as they should be, because I'm still using Raiden National on one side of every single Abyss cycle. I'm AR 60, so there is no Adventure EXP anymore; it's converted to Mora, which I am now effortlessly accumulating faster than I spend. I've gained nearly 4 million Mora since 3.0 dropped, and that's a net gain after spending at least 500K per week for the Battle Pass, and however much I spend leveling or strongbox-ing Artifacts to make room for more Artifacts... not because I need them, but because my anxiety compels me to spend my Resin before it caps and I have absolutely nothing else more worthwhile to spend the Resin on. When there's nothing left to chase, it's hard to care about anything. I can't bring myself to quit, but I tell everyone who asks that they should never play this game.
My rationale for not spending on genshin was always "you probably won't even play this game anymore in the next few months or it just might die itself so what's the point?"
I used to welcon moon, but even that felt like more than the games limited playability was worth, felt more like investing in the future of the game when it got endgame and more complexity, but , no point in giving an enemy nation money to just screw us over, sure, still better than giving the terrorist state of Israel money to use to wage war on us, but not much better. .
You made me cry a little bit at the end. I just recently found your content and have done nothing but binge them...You can see your love for the game. Love you big guy🙏🙏
I won't lie, I was getting really upset as I watched you read through this and you kind of voiced why for me. The part I love about this game is the unique min max potential you have for growth and how rewarding it can feel to Juice up your characters. I've spent a good amount of money on this game in the hopes that when new endgame came out, I'd have a new challenge to look forward to. Gaming is an escape and happy place for me and always has been and this has been on of my favorite games ever. But this shit hurt cause it feels like my money and effort are kind of for not. It really sucks for what has been a great escape for me to not be marred with such a disappointing reality. I'm honestly very upset by this.
god man I agree. It stings. I love this game but the company is murdering it and it just makes me less attracted to it. I have guilt to keep going because of the money I spent ugh
The community is the problem as the vocal part aka twitter is filled with toxic people and they shut down anyone who trys to voice there opinion thinking they hate the game when they are just giving criticism.
@@Kawasabi you do realise all people do on twitter is give so called criticism even when its uncalled for. Aside from all the art, and content creaters the genshin community is shit.
@@Kawasabi nah it's just your ppls opinion is so exceptional from the majority of genshin players but you all have to say it in the cringiest and self persecuted and game addict way possible.
Every now and then I would find THAT game. That I wouldn't pick up and put down and would last years. Genshin was one of them, and from the beginning after falling in love with this game I had always feared that one day I would grow tired of it because it had happened before. I dreaded it. I'm at my lowest with Genshin right now, and this article practically shot me while I was down on the ground.
@@Shadow_Symphony I switched to tof when it released. I don’t think the endgame is much better if at all but atleast I have a guild with a lot of people I play and kill bosses/ raids with.
This breaks my heart. Genshin Impact is my dream game and I love it with all of my heart. World building, characters, story, lore, scenery and music... I could admire it all day. Sadly the game's glaring issues are going to kill it. It's wasted potential. I wish that these problems never existed, and the community could be happy and positive. Such a beautiful game has a bad reputation because of a few bad parts of the community as well. I'm not going to stop playing because I still love the game, but I will continue to never spend money on constellations and weapons because I simply don't have a reason to, and this interview confirmed it. Thank you to the interviewer for asking the questions we all wanted an answer to, but now the consequences of finding the answer is accepting that nothing will change :(
Why are you all in the comments getting infected by these clickbaity YTers? No, the game's "glaring issues" won't "kill" it. That's pathetic shit that is spouted by clickbait articles since week 1 of GIs launch. The game has a stronger revenue stream than ever and it's one of the most successful F2P titles of all time. People are just as invested as ever when a new character does 0.7% less damage than it should be. This game is going as strong as it could and still nobody is forcing people to play a game they don't enjoy anymore.
@@Sanjayyyy It was confirmed for the 300th time that there won't be more endgame content than what we've got and now every clickbait YTer quits the game for the 310th time.
Honestly resonated so much with what you said here because I am also pretty reward driven. It’s one of the reasons I have been having a hard time finding motivation to play Genshin for a while now. The art style and beauty of the game is totally my style but I find myself playing other games like Onmyoji where farming actually makes sense or I have to participate to make my guild better. I dumped so much money on Genshin because I loved the game and characters and parts of the community so much but now I kind of regret it because the content is so easy haha
Same, felt so good when first time finishing floor 12 for the first time and later 36 star, then wanted to build all the general teams with 1 dps from each type 2 support/healers of each element etc and now that I have all and was so happy with dendro adding lots of new teams seems like it isn't needed for anything, like If I wanted I could just national raiden and freeze or whatever and gg If the game wants to be that casual forever then its fine I will take it more casually and go play other games meanwhile
i also dont really care mutch about spyral abyss ( the rewards for teying hard for more few stars are 50 primogens), i understand some players want more battle related content, but the game has always been story focus and single player game, all the quest have stories there are boccks and objects to collect, going exploring completing sidequest stories and learning more about the world, the primary reason you become strong in the game, is to reach the end of the story the end of the game the "endgame" honkai impact have alot of battle activities beacuse the focus of that game is not openworld, dont get me wrong i am understand the competitive aspect of games , i play fighting games but this is more of a chill game, you explore, you descover, abyss is just a tiny island in a big world, i dont use the interactive map (except to collect ascencion plants or insects) yestarday i was exploring trying to complete sumeru 100% using only the gadgest, items and "whats is that" curiosity form the begining the world and stories are the focus of the devs, they even nerf child boss beacuse some peoople complain it was to hard, so yes i am the playes that goes to the world and go explore a region, read the lore and collect materials for food , weapons and characters and leave the artifacts fot last, but yes maybe they can make the bosses (all the bosses) more strong and dificult like you said you can always lower the world level, but remember if you make to dificult content the F2P may feel that the game is not balance and they need money to win what is not a problem genshin have, you can fight in all the content whit no money, and atleast the is positive, even so whit all the problems or positives genshin is not a bad single player game
@@animedistraction9662 Yeah I totally understand I think when we talk about endgame we’re not even just talking about more abyss. Honestly I have found the abyss so boring for so long. I think some of us just want a little more stuff to do that requires us to use all these characters we are collecting. For example, I found some of the fighting and flying around events quite fun. The events where we just walk around endlessly talking to people for the most part are so boring. An abyss like activity that allows for coop so you can challenge hard bosses and maybe do puzzles together would be fun too. Basically….just something you know? I find that I have so many characters just sitting around because I can just beat everything in the game with the same characters. I have to keep reminding myself to rotate out my teams so I can use certain characters because I feel bad that they’ve been sitting in the back for months. I also feel less motivated to explore because when I explored Monstadt and Liyue too quickly there was just nothing left to do for a long time.
@Eko Yeah thats me too! I just came back from a months long break from Genshin because I remembered all the money I spent and felt a twinge of guilt haha. Good thing Sumeru got released so I actually feel like I have stuff to do in the game right now. I don’t even buy the battle pass anymore because I’m tired of getting the same weapons (maybe that’s just kind of a whale problem but I have better options for all the weapons) and I sometimes don’t even finish the battle pass because I just don’t play enough.
I saw the part with "no real endgame" on reddit first, and someone in the comments there said that 40% of people even regularly go into abyss - not beating it, not 36☆ it, but go into it. I think in our bubble of "we invest so much into our characters, of course we're looking forward to abyss reset for these few pulls" even if we can't 36☆ (bc I cant, but after my first time I also just don't bother anymore) its easy to forget that we're the minority. I oftentimes don't notice, but now that I think about it, yeah, everyone of my friends comes to me so I give them tips on their builds, give them evaluation of their artefacts, which team comps would be the best speaking from a meta perspective. And because most of my friends are playing casually, there's a lot of stuff I'm amazed by they don't have in mind. Most of them don't think about elemental resonances/don't even KNOW about it. I was suggesting a friend a team, explaining as I go why I'd personally would use these specific characters and was putting two pyro characters into the team. My friend looked at me almost offended and demanded to ask why in the fuck I'd use TWO pyro characters. I then explained elem. resonance to her and at AR56 that is apparently the first time she heard of it. oof. And people like my friend are the majority of people who play the game - she rarely touches abyss and if she does, I'm over at her place 9☆ floor 9 and 10 for her if she wants the primos bc she's close to pity and maybe finally loses 50/50 to diluc. Abyss is too stressful for her and for most of my other friends (although I've seen their accounts and if they'd just build more of their supports they'd easily clear floor 12 lmao) as well or it's just too much work and they can't be arsed. So, to a certain degree I can understand why they won't put more stuff into the game as endgame, but yeah, it feels like a kick in the ass for players like us. I also love this game, I probably have an unhealthy attachment to my characters (specifically Kazuha and Venti), I invested so much time into it... but it is time I enjoyed. I've taken it slower since the first time I fully cleared abyss, gotten all stars because then I got the feeling you've described in your video. Mostly I just log on, do dailies and fuck right off again. But other days, I just wish there was more to do, because I love the game, I love the world, and I want to play the game more but the game and the resin system doesn't really let me play more. I have done everything, currently holding off on the Archon Quest until a "I want to play more genshin" day arrives, so I can actually play more of the game that I want to play when I want to play more. It is a shame that there is so little for us to do and that hoyo doesn't want to put more stuff into the game, although I can understand their reasoning. I'd be fine if they'd put in a designated testing area, where you'd try out every character with every constellation and every artefact set or something like that. That be cool to dick around in. But knowing them, that probably won't happen, which is a darn shame. Sorry for the lengthy comment lol, just felt like typing my thoughts out. If you're still here reading, have a nice day. 💜
Couldn't agree more and I actually just left a similar comment. I've helped a *lot* players. I've gotten paid to help players, and I've done it for fun. The average player is exactly as casual as your friend. You probably had to explain how she needs to do commissions or something similar. I commented that I loved that they gave the anxiety reason, because it's *very* real for players. But yeah, only around 40% of players even *attempt* abyss. It's not even 0.05% of that that 36 star.
To be honest, I feel the same, and I'm not even an endgame player yet. I'm at AR 50, most of my friends okay very casually and I do so too. I started Genshin for the story and the characters that are introduced to it, but I'm afraid of getting no more stories to hear one day. Of course the story will end at some point and of course, Hoyoverse will give archon quests for new regions but still. My greatest joy in the game right now is the gameplay. I like to create teams with my current characters wich aren't a lot nor are good built but you can work with them. I don't actually like Abyss that much so I don't really touch it regularly. But Genshin does give you anxiety sometimes, and I hate it. I'm relieved of not being able of play sometimes thanks to school, it gives me a slow option of going forward in Genshin wich is great. That way I don't get to the endgame that easy. Hoyoverse needs to change a lot of things and add more so endgame players can enjoy the game like they used to in their early days of playing. Some endgame players are still happy and love to play, but the lack of content will make them chance that happiness to now be something boring. Amazing comment btw (｡•̀ᴗ-)✧
Spiral abyss is bad design, the entire game is based around a 4 team comp but the hardest content requires 2 fully geared teams of 4. You can either get your main team as strong as possible or you can build for spiral abyss.
He actually almost cried at the end, you can see how much this hit him, honestly my only goal ever in genshin was to 36 star the abyss (currently at 34 without trying the new one) and now I just want to try nahida since I have enough primos for her and then that's.... it :(
Once you 36* you finished the game. Now there's no point in building new characters because why? No more endgame will ever be added. At that point one should just... quit.
@@Sergmanny46 Seems like the endgame was getting building and trying new characters all along, which is normal in gachas but its meh that you don't get much or anything for trying to make old characters or your favorite stronger
an easy fix for the previous lore driven quests, that new players don't get to experience and miss out on, is to just have the quests be part of the game again, just not include the event rewards. treat it like a normal quest with diminished rewards for those playing it AFTER the event. that way everyone gets to experience the "oh my god, that's crazy" moments, without them having to rerun events, so it keeps the "special" thing about the event special. like, im new to the game this year, only been playing a few months, and im constantly having videos be recommended to me that cover past event quests and learning bits of lore that i would not have gotten otherwise, and im sure there's STILL loads i haven't come across yet because i dont know what to even search for myself- merely relying on the algorithm's to provide me with the info as it sees fit. being able to play the quests myself would allow me to learn and enjoy them IN game. even if the entire quest only rewards me with like 40 primos and a handful of mora, exp books, and what have you. it'd still be content to play, enjoy, and experience myself. also, the lack of skins has definitely been one of the more confusing things for me, since just about any online game has OODLES of skins to buy, and yet this one has almost none. while more MT's aren't necessarily nice, it's very strange that they haven't utilized that easy money making tool
Even tho this article describes exactly, what I thought how the devs see the game, it is still very depressing to read xD It's like when you expect nothing and still get disappointed 😬
This is exactly why i stopped pulling for weapons and cons about a year ago during last anniv. I already knew back then that they will never improve abyss or add harder content. I also accepted this game is more catered to casuals. This interview just confirmed all my suspicions a year ago and now i regret nothing in stopping in whaling on this game like I did back in 2020-2021
@@dumbledoratheexplora1140 some whales just want to show off their collection, other just want to "beat" the game fast, skip the story and pikachu face when they see that there is nothing to "beat". Other ones are just streamers and youtubers
Watching this emotional journey, it shows me how bad a printed interview can be if every answer is ‘no’. Pro tip to developers, don’t say no to everything.
that is lying to players... just because u arent happy with what they said dont mean they need to lie to make u happy.. Its a good thing they straight up said its not gonna happen...
Why tho. There is No PvP. Its your Account. What did you think endgame Looks Like in a Game without PvP? Its Like any other Game on this Planet. But only If you want 100% spend Like 10k monney.
I love how this basically means that constellations for 5* characters and 5* weapons hold no value. You usually buy stuff like this to make the game easier, hence the p2w, but the abyss can be beaten with c0 characters and 4* weapons. The only other content that may be difficult besides floor 11-12 is within certain events that give you 2 crystals for the “extreme difficulties”. I still love the game and will continue to play it, but I’m definitely slowing down on weapons and constellations.
For me is actually a good thing, not everybody has mtashed luck or his artefacts, i understand his Point of view but not everybody have his stuff, i only buy welking moon and bp sometimes, i fan clear the abyss but it is not really easy, i stil enjoy the game and i will wait for new pg that i like to play with, this is not a game that u need to play all day every day so that is fine imo👍
They decide this based on data and survey. Most whales and casual players will gladly roll for 5 stars and constellations for the characters they like and dont want to hurt their brain with spiral abyss cuz they got their job to work with during the day already .
@@hitori2454 Oh that’s fine and I completely understand wanting to get constellations/weapons, but with them confirming that there won’t be end game content, there’s literally no reason to get them besides collecting. My issue with this is that there are people who spent money and are saving in hopes for end game which we now know isn’t coming.
To most people that actually built their characters, it was always clear 5* weapons and 5* cons were paid to win. The game is not balanced for those things, the game isn't even balanced for built C0 characters. It's why I'm quite bitter how the community praises things like C2 Raiden for being such a "good con to get". I assure everyone that no content needs even half the power of C2 Raiden.
It is weird how they want us not to play their game. I feel like i dont get punished for leaving for a few months. I mean the daily check in bonus is laughably bad. There is no reason or pressure to build characters. With no endgame in sight I dont even feel the need to play to clear floor 12 for 8 extra wishes a year. No endgame, no need to play everyday lol.
I really got more into genshin after finding your videos on youtube. It made me want to learn more about the game, how to build up characters and so on, and it breaks my heart to see you deliver these awful news. Thank you for the passion in your videos. It means a lot for many of us, i am sure. Especially for the ones like me who engaged to the game with your content. Best of vibes, mtashed!
You know I got to know Genshin through Bwaap. My friend get to know it through Tectone as he was an Arknight player. I really liked how much Bwaap loved the story and talked as if he was there. So it got rubbed on me. Plus he was f2p since day one. I feel like many of us are influenced by the CC we follow.
As a day 1 player, i just feel the same as you Mtashed. Right now I'm wondering if I just quit or keep playing as F2P. One thing is for sure, I won't give my money to a company the size of Mihoyo that just can't handle their players who want endgame content. Mihoyo is not a indie company, Genshin is one of, if not, the biggest mobile game in the market right now and they can't deliver a simple basic feature as endgame, this is unacceptable. And just to make one thing clear, I'm happy for players who play genshin just for exploration, story and character collection, but as a player who wants endgame content, it's horrible to be treated like this by such a big company.
@@cjbordelon1410 it wasn't much of a fix tbh and she's still kinda broken in other ways either way tbh and not in the good way as well i would know I built and use her still and it's pain.
That was honestly the most depressing interview of all time. They could've at least tried to care, but they basically just admitted that they don't care about the longevity of the game whatsoever.
Literally like 5% of the playerbase max actually wants endgame content. A majority of players literally dont care. Not to mention CHINA, their main money grab literally DOES NOT care for endgame in the slightest, and prefer story and lore events. Them catering towards story and events is what will keep over 95% of the player base going, especially in places like China, or Japan
@@Zhangjiajie425 maybe we are that 5% but it really still hurts knowing that nothing really matters it was obvious but now it is confirmed. They probably could make some endgame content with the rewards that you ain't gonna miss out on if you are that majority of the player base that prefer casual gameplay that doesn't care about it at all. imo it would be nice for us who actually had any hopes to ever see the anything in the end lol
Mihoyo really went the most unexpected route with that. "We don't wanna make end game content for the sake of our players mental health" ... That was such a lame excuse. I'm actually insulted lmao they could've kept that. Like just say no comment that would've been better 😭
Fucking facts, just say it's not in our plans and it would've been easier to digest, not talking about anxiety when your whole game is designed on the basis of FOMO and oh no you're running out of time
bro they better do it for mental health because half you ppl in this comment section are breaking down over not playing 12 + 3 more hours of genshin a day lol its for your own good
Thanks tashman for holding out hope for us, for so long. I gave up hope for our dream endgame and have come to accept this game for what it is a while back. Watching you get emotional really hits home and I really feel for you man. I love genshin for what it is, and hope to continue to watch this game through you and your antics. Much love brother.
@@damianw5861 well "Better content" Can be defined by different people as different things, For example for one person farming for the "End game" of genshin could be fun for some, Or adding thier own challenges like sword only, Personally I think he should do what he likes. from what I see he has fun doing genshin, But sometimes it's frustrating. it depends on him none of us ^^
mtashed, I felt your pain at the end when you said that the game died for you, when your identity is tied to an elusive end game you wish to have. As a casual player, I also understand the developer of genshin as I play the games for an hour or so with friends and family and just simply appreciate the journey. As you said, you recognize the community you develop and the thousands of video content you created have enriched this community, and for that I thank you, for it has not been wasted. you matter mtashed.
Enriched in what way??? The ideas he puts out to be detrimental to the game are barely wanted by the majority of the player base. Also getting emotional and making a big deal over small things to cause drama isn't helpful to anyone.
@@raghavdabar Yes, I've been here since launch but I rather face reality than to try to relate to the tears of a terrible e-celeb. No one likes abyss, no normal person at least. The fact they haven't done an abyss 2.0 until now means that they know what type of content most of the player base gravitates to. Also NA team is most definitely not in charge of deciding or even making future content, that's why they barely give answers to any of the questions that were made, because they cannot disclose internal info and also.. they just don't fucking make the decisions of the game if any at all.
it died to him because hes a greedy streamer who understands that there is no content for him to stream consistently lmfao, if he tries to stream another game his stream will die. Thats why hes mad and thats the bitter truth. He doesnt give a fck what Mihoyo does as long its something he can make content on and end game is one of those things
What you said at the end is so sad and relatable: "I (was) going to grind all these items; get the most stacked (f2p) account; and when they add the endgame I am going to be the first one to stomp it" Most of the more driven players were probably thinking in similar lines and hoping for the best, but with the confirmation we now have, this hope is dead. Though there is still a small hope, that the feedback from the interview was not officially sanctioned/true or MAYBE they listed to the backlash this news is generating and do reconsider...
The days of grinding are ended. Time to log in for new areas for a week and quit again. Thankfully there's a lot of new games coming out that I'm excited for. Thank you for this video, it summed up my --- all of our --- frustrations and disappointment so well. Reading the comments is nice because it shows this is a wide spread feeling about the game, not just a couple people's disappointment. Hope you can find other games you find enjoying.
what makes me sad, is that this game is gold, and they destroyed it with bullshit company business. games are coming out, but as far as i can see, none of the new games even come close to how good genshin is. The game is not the problem here, the management of it is.. greedy people.
@@WastedTalent83 it happens to all rich people for some reason. once they make a certain amount of money, they want more and more and more and more... the same happened to genshin sadly. they only care about even more money, and thats it
I mean if I was a casual gamer then I guess the news would be disappointing but not the end of the world, but as a content creator, I don't know for how long I can make content on this game without any future plans of improvement. It's basically just a cycle of patch drops, play story quests, pull for the occasional new character, repeat. I mean at some point that's gotta get old for people to watch right? It really concerns me especially because this is literally my job atm and I don't wanna give it up because a game can't sustain the viewership.
Honestly abyss is why I play the game it's been my goal since day one to get super sweaty endgame and to hear that there won't be endgame as much ad I already knew just sucks to hear it from the devs mouths themselves
what gives me anxiety in this game is the endless, pointless dialog that i cannot skip. I have limited time to play and can't handle all that dialog man...
EXACTLY!! People on twitter are all like "there is enough content in Genshin already, we have jobs I don't have time to play all day" Like, but you have time to sit through 6 hours of unskipable dialogue?! I don't get it.
it’s sad to see so much wasted potential. i liked the lore of the game, world, building, and the elemental system is really interesting. i wish they would just listen to the community because there’s literally no downside. more happy players and more guidance for them. feels like this game is heading for a major downfall, maybe even before the later nations are released… it depends.
They are listening to the community. The CHINESE community who make up a majority of Profits. Add in the little Pinks who can snitch to the CCP. Mihoyo has every reason to appeal to Chinese Players.
Yes. It has been months since I dont even answer their surveys anymore. The requests for endgame and resin are here since the beggining and they didnt do anything other than increasing the limit one time to 160. This sucks...
They are listening. Literally like 5% of the playerbase max actually wants endgame content. A majority of players literally dont care. Not to mention CHINA, their main money grab literally DOES NOT care for endgame in the slighest
I am trying very hard to understand how it can be difficult to allow players to replay past limited time events... First, you already have the content there, you might need to update it to be compatible with newer features, but the cutscenes, dialogue etc. are all there. Second, if your concern is storage space, do it like the language pack. have an option in the quest menu to replay past content then prompt the player to download the data package for it for the quest to be made available. After they are done, give them the option to delete the limited time event data. Another gacha game I play does this all the time, for events dating all the way back from its release 3 or 4 years back. Just put them all in a server for players to manage on their own. It feels like they are just lazy and greedy. Wanting to do the least they can and continue milking the whales with eye candy and nothing more.
It's technical limitations I think - All of this content would be taking a lot of space on disk and so. That being said, I agree all of this content being thrown to waste probably isn't the smartest thing they do.
I mean yeah you do have a point but then again... Some people might get the anxiety if the new high level end game content is something they "have to do" while they primarily play for different aspects. Similarly some people might be using suboptimal characters because A) shit RNG B) they like their design/story etc and C) they are more fun than "one shot" characters. Your view of numerical value is not valid for everyone. The fact that you personally don't have problem with all the various reactions etc, again, is not valid for everyone out there? Also they said they are not considering another area as the spiral abyss... ie. another solo player hard arena combat. There is no need for two of those. And if you won't need super min-maxed artifacts, then you don't need more resin for farming the super optimal artifacts. So I get you, but we should remember that there is really wide player base, not everyone is minmaxing focused. Your analogy to league that they delete 5 favorite characters... they do it all the time, by reworks some characters no more exist and by new character some are so obsolete they are not really used, because in that game the numbers really do matter.
I totally agree, I don't bother with spiral abyss, I enjoy open world much more. I've only done upto floor 6 for completing adventure handbook tasks lol. I do have anxiety, and i totally understand where Mihoyo was going with this.
Just as you said the very depressing part of this article is Hoyoverses response to everything is just "Nah we don't want to do that and we don't know what we will do either" Its very confusing and upsetting almost as though they were hoping Genshin would never be as successful as it has become and they really dislike their own product. "We don't have plans to introduce endgame content or such because it will stress our players" the p[layers getting stressed about spiral abyss existing and worrying about not clearing it are probably the same players who haven't even unlocked inazuma boss domain and just unlock waypoints and take photos in the game. Genshin impact caters to a wide audience and disregarding the audience that cares about having stronger content or more intense mechanics is depressing and inconsiderate. Hoyoverses biggest game has proved their biggest flaw.... they don't know how to design content to cater to all player groups.
The problem is that Hoyoverse backed themselves up into a corner. Power creep is slowly starting to set in and eat the game alive, but in order to solve this problem they either need to buff older characters so that they're competitive (which kills the incentive for people to whale for newer units) or make newer characters easier to get (which means people won't spend as much money on pulls because the chances aren't as low). Either way it means that they won't see as much money from the gacha system, and their greed won't let them do that, even if it means letting the game slowly cannibalize itself.
@@leopereira4718 Power creep is NOT about to set in dude.. The latest characters released especially the four star ones are weak in comparison to old ones. Bennett still beats ass, Xingqiu, Xiangling, and Sucrose are all meta mainstays.. The new fourstars are not nearly as good and the new five stars are OK at best.
I found the depressing part to be people taking the article as "Hoyoverse's word" when there are no names, faces, or roles given to the mystery "developers," all by a freelance "staff" writer with 24 articles and 200 Twitter followers.
Tectone also said he may be quitting (not 100% sure he is quitting because of the article). Congrats Mihoyo, you may be loosing 2 very big creators because you don't want your game to be "anxiety inducing" (like it isn't already) 😀👍
Id love to see mtashed play through many many other games 😅 I sorta don't feel any excitement on genshin but collecting characters on genshin. The commissions are chores, and gambling addiction will put anyone in debt
I lost all hope in the devs, but I’m still not gonna stop playing nevertheless. It just sucks how such a potentially great game is being screwed over by the higher ups.
I don't understand why Honkai is also by them and it's so much better. I quit Genshin for a time to play that instead but I just hate the "you can only play as women" thing
I mean, its literally a singleplayer RPG story game. I doubt endgame was ever going to be a thing. Not to mention theres literally 0 reason for them to do it, as like 95% of the playerbase doesnt care for it anyways. Especially in China
Sad to see you go through this. I had this about a year ago, and then I quit, but I haven't missed a video since; just really love to hear you talk about the game!
Shit bro...that mourning comment. You're not the only one feeling it. There's no point to upgrading the characters if there's nothing to test it. Why they don't even consider an endless mode is beyond understanding. We all need counselling. Love you Tashman!
Anxiety? You know what caused anxiety? Losing 50/50, weapon banner, artifacts farming/rolls, resins, the freaking scarabs and not having endgame to play. Maybe just me. Also, "not everyone is interested" means equally that many people are interested. Let's just forget these people, people in TC, whales and stuff exist. This basically confirms our speculation. I mean I gave up trying to get those 'godrolls' a long time ago. why need good weapons, good stats, when clearing the abyss doesn't mean much anymore. I agree we don't need to stress, don't need to spend, just enjoy it for what it is. It's not gonna get any better. Let pull weapons for the look guys.
I really felt that breakdown at the end in my soul. As a collector-type player I don't go as hard on min-max but want all the characters and see what they can do with their preffered weps/artifact sets. If there's no challenging content and the multi-player experience is terrible it's almost like... who or what am I even doing this for?
We felt like mihoyo didn't care about the players last anniversary and it seemed like it was maybe turning around but the rewards are the same as a year ago and it's clear that the designer's ideas trump the player's feedback every time. This interview really solidified that they have no intention improving the game, just adding more to it. This just killed my drive for getting cyno constellations.
I got really excited when I found out that Dori could be really awesome in coop, she can give all characters on the field energy and healing, so in a full team of 4 players it could be a really fun support role to play. Now, when will I ever get the chance to really do some full party coop battling and make use of that? Maybe once or twice a year in events, if I'm lucky. It's such a waste, it would be like if Pokemon games didn't allow you to battle with other players after you've completed the game, but invited you to still come back every day and strengthen your pokemon so you can continue to obliterate pidgeys on the main world map...
i can relate, i love genshin and ill always going to be in love with playing the game but i reached the point where as soon as i open the game i just feel burned out. its reallyyy so sad to a player like me.
I hit a wall after inazuma. After the wave of disappointment and questioning if I should continue the game. I started watching more lore videos and playing it with a more casual feeling, casually leveling up all my characters, even ones I haven't used much to have fun mixing whoever I want, and just pulling characters I think are fun, aesthetically appealing to me or if I feel emotionally attached after quests. I feel happier with the game once I got past knowing there won't be a reason I need stress and over grind for the perfect artifacts. That endgame is what it is. I can't even imagine the feelings when your livelihood is tied to it. I'll keep watching the content as you explore other things and I'll enjoy when you come back to genshin when it has new things to do.
well its actually , ansolutely pointless to give people a complex fighting system, when you decide "the game will be THIS easy" and never get harder.. Just make it story mode, with character always dealing the same damage, there is no point of having stronger character, or even different skill and build, when in the end.. All the game offer is easy content to clear, and EVEN MORE pointless for whale to whale, if there is nothing they can use their OP char on, because everything they touch get erased. I',m, not a whale, but i kinda pity all the people who spent money to be super strong, and now, they know it wasn't needed at all cause, there is no more difficult content
@@WastedTalent83 Dude I'm not putting any money into this game ever again, I literally don't care anymore if the devs don't care about anything that was a core mechanic from the beginning. Every material you grind for is used to make your character stronger, the resin system is for the same thing.
I kinda stopped playing continuously after i finished Inazuma archon quests. I took a break for three months thinking i was burnt out. But nah. Enknomia chasm everything started feeling boring after Inazuma. Exploration felt very technical for getting rewards cause the maps were built around getting rewards rather than for exploration. almost all quests are just running from point a to between running out of stamina in between and hitting sponges. I uninstalled it two days ago. I don't think i ll play it again. I m interested in the lore but i ll prolly watch it anywhere on yt or smshit when the game is almost done few years later. The main characters not being voiced is also pretty disappointing.
Anxiety? If some players will get “anxiety” then they have a choice of not doing specific content just like spiral abyss. Mihoyo is basically giving players a slap in the face with how they respond to their playerbase.
You dont understand how player retention works. For example, I liked tower of fantasy. But I quickly felt that game demanded too much time for all of its endgame activites and felt overwhelmed and burnt out. And the casual players will feel like they are missing out on too much if they do not participate in the many endgame modes. So in actuality, more endgame hurts the retention of casual players and they are the 95% of the playerbase. Thus new endgame content will directly result in Hoyo making less money. Of course they aren't going to do that.
@@nagorner3791 they could add game modes slowly. It's not that hard. Also all we're asking for is a challenge with floors that you can repeat that isn't the spiral abyss. Like a 100 floor domain.
@@sweetsurrender815 Still hurts revenue from new and casual players. I dropped TOF because its infinite abyss was a slog and necessary for the resources you get, and I am not a casual player. Imagine you are a new genshin player and are told to complete 100 floor abyss if you want to keep up. The casuals would just think the game is not for them and drop it.
I really relate to that TD2 analogy, and it's exactly how I feel. In the endgame for TD2, there is 100% a MASSIVE difference between a fully optimized player with exotics and a gear set compared to a newer player with purples equipped, but in Genshin, you can just have the purples equipped and clear content just as easily as the fully optimized player with a bit of game knowledge. It's just disappointing that this game will never reach its full potential, it could truly become one of the greatest games ever if they just did ANYTHING.
Almost every single answer feels so detached from what people actually want and what the state of the game is right now, why did they even say this instead of being silent like always?
Not kids also skip the dialogue and talking. Most of the time the dialogue’s cringe, uninteresting, or spends entirely too long belaboring some extremely obvious and basic concept. With a few rare exceptions, I skip like all of the dialogue
@@hundredeyes8917 Sumeru's been the worst by far. The archons quests have 60+ lines of dialogue to explain something that should've been said in 1 line lol. Sumeru's dialogue has been the worst I have ever seen in Genshin.
I really like this video and knowing how much this game means to you makes it hit everyone that much harder. Its important to spread this news to everyone to let them know what to expect for the future of genshin. Sad to know i will never see personalize guilds or boss raids with friends.
i also dont really care mutch about spyral abyss ( the rewards for teying hard for more few stars are 50 primogens), i understand some players want more battle related content, but the game has always been story focus and single player game, all the quest have stories there are boccks and objects to collect, going exploring completing sidequest stories and learning more about the world, the primary reason you become strong in the game, is to reach the end of the story the end of the game the "endgame" honkai impact have alot of battle activities beacuse the focus of that game is not openworld, dont get me wrong i am understand the competitive aspect of games , i play fighting games but this is more of a chill game, you explore, you descover, abyss is just a tiny island in a big world, i dont use the interactive map (except to collect ascencion plants or insects) yestarday i was exploring trying to complete sumeru 100% using only the gadgest, items and "whats is that" curiosity form the begining the world and stories are the focus of the devs, they even nerf child boss beacuse some peoople complain it was to hard, so yes i am the playes that goes to the world and go explore a region, read the lore and collect materials for food , weapons and characters and leave the artifacts fot last, but yes maybe they can make the bosses (all the bosses) more strong and dificult like you said you can always lower the world level, but remember if you make to dificult content the F2P may feel that the game is not balance and they need money to win what is not a problem genshin have, you can fight in all the content whit no money, and atleast the is positive, even so whit all the problems or positives genshin is not a bad single player game
I feel incredibly sad and empty now as well. For the last year, I've seen these crazy damage numbers in UA-cam showcases for characters and I've pursued getting those in my own account. I spent hours learning rotations for various teams, grinding the ideal artifact sets for characters, and leveling like nobody's business. My most recent goal was to get my new Ganyu to hit those 40K+ charged shots. It was exciting to see my numbers go up every time I got better at using the character and got better gear. And now... it feels kind of meaningless. My Ganyu only hits about 20K per shot, but that's enough to drop most enemies in the world. Most of my other characters do just fine in 99% of the content, so I have no need to build them better. You hit the nail on the head in saying that there's no reason for us to try to make our characters better if there is no content in which it is necessary for our characters to be better! And the worst part about the spiral abyss being our only endgame, for me anyway, is that it literally wasn't worth doing even if I could beat it. I would get my 12 stars for the current BP and maybe see if I could clear floor 11 fully. I have not touched floor 12 in over a year because its just such a damage sponge kind of deal that it's not fun. I was genuinely hoping rumors of things like an infinite spiral abyss with randomized buffs/debuffs and enemies would turn out to be true, so I could pursue getting a new record on floor clears or get to experiment with more variety of team comps. Or heck, even the labyrinth event they did before as a limited time event was really cool and had potential to be an endgame piece of content. Sorry Hoyoverse devs... but a card game isn't exactly the endgame the majority of us have been looking for. AND as a rebuttal to the anxiety comment, this video is more than enough evidence to show the opposite. In fact, it seems more players are feeling anxious about the game WITHOUT a endgame plan than if we had even a bad one. I really hope the producers and lead developers see these kinds of videos, and get a lot of pushback in the surveys. Because the stances in this interview are dangerously close to gutting their entire business plan. Why wish for new characters, why buy resin refills or primos, if you will never need those new things they release? It puts a definitive end point on a player's financial investment period, because once you get enough to cruise through the story lines, you're done. You don't need any more and won't spend any more money.
can i be honest i think today after almost 2 years i just lost hope in genshin i don't even know if it is still even worth my time at all, all this farming i did is meaningless, all the stuff i did, all the artifacts all my goals are just meaningless, all the days logging in doing dailies spending resin and doing abyss once every 15 days is just useless... this loop will keep on forever they are never going to add anything over that as endgame just dailies abyss and resin this is genshin i will keep playing this game? i don't know probably until they add something better.. i am just sad really really sad i also invested so much time and moneys in this game and now everything just feels meaningless... this is just unfair
They are literally making players ask the question Mihoyo does NOT want them to make if they expect to get money: Why bother playing this game if my characters won't matter at all?
*Not happy playing this game anymore* I quit genshin for a few months, Came back to play some story, never did resins and commissions. Even getting tired by simple exploring for waypoints.. I didn't care anymore, I think it's because I something on the back of my mind keeps saying that this game is like a Time and money leech. Just how it was designed to keep you playing everyday. I never spent on this game and I'm glad that I didn't. Edit: Just finished the video and I agree to everything you said. I'm not happy playing this game, I feel exploited when playing this game
I feel the same as Tashed man. I have always been a reward-driven player. I've never truly enjoyed a single event of Genshin (since launch). I did all of them for the primogems, I did all my commissions (it's been ~740 days, and I missed like 2 or 3) so that I can get the character I want. For what? To play more mini games. This emptiness feeling only hits harder when the devs sucked all last copium that we've been inhaling. A feeling after we've hit the 50/50, get a god roll, and then realize, what are we even doing? I enjoy the story. Some characters I really like. I enjoy all the exploration. But I cant enjoy them forever. Soon, you'll realize that you are completing every new event, every new story for completeness, a self-satisfaction that you gain in that moment, only to be hit with the truth that this is what you will be doing until Genshin dies. I can't believe I have logged in for 2 years on this game, no break, to realize what I've been doing. What I'm different from Mtashed is that I can quit, but Genshin is more or less his job, so it's gonna be a tough decision. Thank you Mtashed for this video, and this 2 year journey. Watching you getting emotional when you dumped $7000 for character that is now forgotten, back then I wasted $200 (of my college's wallet) too, and I felt the same "post-nut clarity" when that exciting gambling moment is over. Now, watching you getting emotional again when your favorite game is never the way you want to be. I can sort of feel the void, the emptiness now. I just dont know what to do anymore. I'm farming for who again...?
Exactly. If enjoying the contents of the game then I would have played other pc games. But I'm playing this game for only rewards. Like you described, I'm also a reward oriented person. I'm not saying that people can't enjoy these contents but it's me who doesn't enjoy those contents. It's all about farming primos, seeing golden and purple light, getting good weapons, getting constellations, rolling good artifacts etc etc for me. After getting Nahida I'd stop spending a cent in this game and would start taking breaks often.
This is why we need another similar game to steal a big portion of genshin's play hours. The thing is, there is no need for the devs to give us anything when they monopolize the space as much as they do. Releases like ToF and others just can't compete as of now and until they properly do, we will get squat from hoyoverse
Almost impossible because you will never get another genshin. Too situational in its success. What more likely is there might be a game that takes inspiration from genshin but definitely wont be another genshin.
It still won't matter. New games that provide combat endgame will only attract the hardcores and they won't provide as much dough to shake genshin up. Meanwhile those that don't want to sweat would avoid those games and always go back to genshin.
Why is anyone surprised by them saying they will not add new challenging content, or anything else they said?!? For the first while after launch, challenge content was the main form of recurring content, as both the main event, and the abyss, was challenge content. Then after about five updates, they stopped making challenge events, never added any new challenge content, and when they had old challenge events return, they were decidedly easier to get all the rewards for than they used to be. It was already clear for well over a year now that their intention for Genshit was for it to be a super casual character collector, and that's it, if you wanted difficult end game content, this was never going to be it, as they literally pulled a 180 degree turn on that matter, and never looked back. Then as they weren't using gear check content to get people to spend, the new main events became story quests, featuring the main characters featured in the gacha that update, meaning they're ads for the contents of the gacha. They also started making those 5* character story things, and dating sim things for 4* characters, which area added/updated when characters were added, or returned to the gacha, which again, are just ads for the gacha. The main event, and those character things, are fully voice acted, while the only other things fully voice acted, is the story main story quests, which shows where their priorities are. How can you guys like playing a "game," that is really nothing but an ad for the gacha? Not getting more resin was also a given considering their super casual direction, more resin would let you play longer, which goes against it being a super casual thing. Then why would you want more resin in the first place? Well to get more stuff to make your account stronger, expect with next to no content that requires you to make your account stronger, that also means there's no real reason to grind out that content more than you are now. The rewards of everything short of the odd cosmetic item were all things to make your account stronger, as at the start, it did centre around challenge content. Although after they stopped centring it around challenge content, those rewards no longer had a reason to be offered to such an extent anymore. The whole thing has been a mess for a long time, as they completely changed direction very early on, but left everything else alone as if it was still centred around challenge content, while showing no signs of changing from their new direction, or cleaning things up, which is why I quit a long time ago already. The stupidest thing about this, is he already came to the conclusion that this was it, and stated so many months ago, then said how he was going to quit if they didn't make any big changes, while also saying he didn't expect them to make any big changes. Yet now he gets emotional after it was made an absolute fact that Genshit will never be the game he wanted it to be. This is why I've been trying to encourage him to move on, and treat Genshit as nothing more than a side thing he'd touch base with after a new update, then to also move away from mobile games, as they almost always revolve around gear check difficulty, while he seems more interested getting gear, to help with more skill based difficulty. Hopefully he'll come to understand that he has a community that may have largely found him due to Genshit, is now built around him, so when he moves on to other games, most will likely continue follow him, while also picking up new viewers.
I kinda get the part that adding more content like this can create more anxiety for some players and I feel like maybe the problem is that we mostly do the abyss for primogems and for some players that is a challenge. So I feel like the the solution is to add more content like the abyss that just do not reward primogems, but something character-focus, like crowns of insight and other things to min-max your account. That way your average casual player does not feel required to do that sort of content.
This. Add some rewards that can help you raise your characters and equipments in-game. Dang, the number of primogems from Spiral Abyss doesn't even worth it.
The abyss sucks because it requires two teams, thats why it causes anxiety, you cannot just use you usual team or a variation, you need two full unique teams. They Re using spiral's bad design as an excuse to not add other endgame
I was surprised finishing with 36 stars doesn't gives you anything unique. At least a weapon billet or something you could use instead of just the same primogems.
It causes frustration not anxiety, if it causes anxiety there's the choice to not do it, hoyoverse is juste using a stupid excuse to not put endgame, they probably want us to play one or two of their other games with endgames after playing genshin
So you're telling me that making genshin a little bit harder will make it a depressing game? How about genshin pulling mechanics? Best example is the weapon banner you have to lose two 50/50 before a guaranteed weapon you want. Then also time limited event which are important to the lore just like the mona, fischl event where we first encounter scara?. No, they don't care about anxiety at all.
I think the question of adding end game content is based on the data of the majority of players. I understand that players in China have little time to play and adding additional content may cause anxiety due to the fear of missing out the rewards due to their time constrains.
That’s the thing tho is plenty of people would be fine with more endgame stuff even if there isn’t rewards to get just to really push our characters to their limit.
You took the words right out of my mouth. As someone who's been playing the game damn near every single day since beta, this has effectively killed any hope I had for this game to realize it's potential. Like obviously it's just a game and I'll waste no tears on it but it honestly just kinda feels heartbreaking. I like the story and characters but they're just not worth putting up with how this game is managed. At this point, I don't know how much longer I'll stick with it
@@hydrocraftpower Dramatic? I'm just disappointed dude lol like I said, ultimately it's just a videogame so I'm not losing sleep over this. It just sucks
Well this announcement was nothing different from what I have been thinking for a long time. Even if they don't decide to release endgame content, I'll personally still be having fun. As a f2p I don't have most of the characters I want and I have none of the limited 5 star weapons that I want. Obviously none of this is necessary, I can clear 36 stars every reset, but I'm limited to team comps that include my characters. Also, I would like to get into speedrunning, so until I begin to hit peak f2p potential with c0 r1 or even c2 r1 characters I'm not gonna be done with this game. If you aren't into speedrunning and have plenty of characters and weapons, then I guess this announcement was dissapointing. Me personally, this doesn't change anything for more.
Yeah, that's honestly how it is. Though I'm surprised people didn't realize this at the first anniversary. That was a plain and simple indication that they didn't care about making the game any better. Part of making it better would be giving decent rewards. It's just a cash grab, like every gacha. I defend the gacha model but I'm beginning to think it has no place on the market. This is literally how it goes every time. A gacha is doomed to be shit, and go offline. Without fail. Every time.
So the problem is, not everyone give a shit about this thing bcs they just enjoy a relaxing repetitive gameplay with a story update time to time. I always welcome an improvement but this kind of mindset will only push arround people who don't care to do something about it
@@maazshaikh5996 also the way genshin players and trolls executed the 1st anniversary “protest” was hilariously pitiful. Yeah Emily, review bombing google classroom will totally get you more primogems.
Its already impossible, bcuz the Mayority(CN, JP) doesn't even care about it, they just Enjoy Genshin being casial game, so don't expect so much unless Mayority fanbase also going for it
This is why I struggle now with games becoming more a service than a package. I miss the days where we could have a whole story wrapped up into one or a couple games. Now we spend countless hours grinding for... What? I was hoping there would eventually be some kind of endgame too, now once again it's just empty.
This is where i know that mtashed really loved genshin and mihoyo just broke his heart, i can relate to that feeling. mihoyo really want to make genshin as casual as possible, us 1.0 player who enjoy the combat side of the game just got left behind, checking to the abyss back then, the combat event even tho it is hard I really enjoy grinding my artifact to beat that, even with no reward I can feel the satisfaction after beating the hard challenge.
damn, i remember when i just want to clear floor12 (the very first abyss) for the namecard (i was around AR49-50). it took me 3 days of trying different comps, rotations, artifacts, and i finally beat it. It felt so goood. But now just meh, why log in just to do chores anyway.
A year ago I became a F2P + casual player and it’s the best thing I did for this game. I enjoy it way better now, I have so much to do whenever I try to catch up to the main quests. I farm from time to time but my resin is almost always at 160 and I’m stress free lol After stopping for like 6 month I’m exploring the Chasm and Sumeru with Xiao and Kaeya whom I built more than a year ago and they still slay
Thats the way to go. I started this game on day 1 but only have 400 days logged in. When i realised in 1.x that this was the potential future of the game, I took breaks regularly.
I very much so was disappointed when I came back to Genshin. I took about a year break and finished the new content in a week (100% areas and finished main quest) I want end game. I have date quests which I don't care about or enjoy and I just hit AR 56. I don't care to grind out better artifacts when my characters are already strong enough. Zero point to play besides the story. Sad sad sad news to hear and made me put the game back down.
As a newer player I would hate to see less of you I’ve watched every new video of yours day of release since started playing, love your content and the game but i completely understand as well and would like to thank you for everything!! You’ve brought so many smiles and will continue to do so in whatever you pursue next strive on brother, keep your head up and your feet moving! 👏👏❤
I definitely think it would be fairly easy to expand on the spiral abyss and give it multiple modes that test different things, our current spiral abyss only really exists as a dps test but it would be great to see an alternative spiral abyss or mode that tests your endurance, damage over time out the wazoo and you’re scrambling just to survive, having more variety in the end game content i think is a lot more important than difficulty
Tower of Fantasy had that in its most recent update. It's great. There are healing-centric, and survival-centric "spiral abyss" chambers, and it's not even that crazy difficult to get the rewards that pack the most punch. The top tier rewards are basically like what Genshin does but gives a lot more of it (Genshin DOES NOT give enough of those extra rewards for us whales). Just extra resources (and isn't gacha currency) that makes it more comfy to build characters in new ways but not necessary. Not like pure f2p would have enough resources before reaching that point anyway. ToF and GI can learn a lot from each other. GI taking notes on including more gameplay aspects that actually matter for the core game. ToF taking notes on general game polish.
Dude, I feel ya. This endgame isn't enough. It's not even close to what other games have available. The combat system is awesome in this game and we've all assumed since endgame was available in Honkai, they'd put it in Genshin. I think their Mihoyo's business model has changed since becoming Hoyoverse. Maybe those initial developers wanted to make endgame because it seemed they were moving in that direction. We'll still be here watching your content if you change games or continue with Genshin! I take 30 minutes to complete spiral abyss in two f2p accounts since I've been playing since launch. Everytime I play abyss, I feel like I'm only breaking the ice on a more in-depth combat game and what it could be and I get warmed up for more only to find it's done.
Throughout the months, Mtashed is seen very clearly going through the 5 stages of grief lmao. Denial - He still praises the game even though he knows deep down it's not the game for him. Anger - Once he beat the spiral abyss and didnt have anything else to do. He starts complaining Bargaining - He starts making videos suggesting endgame content to Hoyoverse, hoping Hoyo would listen. Depression - This video is currently in this stage. He realizes it is inevitable that there's no endgame. Acceptance - He'll be back and he'll be in this stage for his new videos. Lol
I think the best end game content would be something like Epic 7’s abyss where it’s 110 floors where it’s hardcore content where you need to actually think about what characters you’re using, comps, strategy, etc. Or something like Dokkan Battles Redzone where it’s devastatingly hard and fun because it’s so hard
A 4 player roguelike where each floor is a different theme tailored around enemy types, weapon types, and elements. Treasure rooms would give you buffs that benefit either only you/a teammate of your choice or the entire party. Different configurations for enemies and most effective weapons/elements can make full use of the strategic part of team building
Yeah, I hit this realisation like a year ago, but like you said-- having it confirmed still hurts. I'm sorry you're going through it man. All the best-- hope you find a new, fun and exciting passion soon that will treat you better than Genshin.
Tbh I was not surprised on hearing this news. The lack of endgame has been a problem since launch and if they want to add endgame contents they would have already did it. Its also likely that there is not a high demand for such content as many players are just casuals that want to collect waifus. For me personally I want them to focus on releasing new regions to explore and story quests earlier since this is what Genshin has always been about.
i dont see an issue with anything they said, since im more of a casual player thats jus likes to build characters for fun, i get where the spiral abyss meta players are coming from but like sentinel prime said “the needs of the many, outweigh the needs of the few” more and more players are coming than leaving
I honestly feel sick right now. I feel like my favorite game just "died" in my heart. I really feel like it could have been so much better, and it will never reach that potential.
I have some videos I still want to make, but I really don't even feel like playing at the moment. I am really upset about this news.
Yes hoyoverse just dont listen to the playerbase idk why it litteraly benefits both sides
was watching you react to this live with tectone earlier today, i can only imagine how bad it felt editing this video. would love to see you interact with your community or play a different game for a breath of fresh air. we'll get through this together brother
just accept it mtashed, 90% of genshin players are just casuals that never clears abyss, nor have heard the term theorycrafting, the only way you can change their perspective is when they start to lose money, but then, they might just go work on a different game instead
Sorry but that "Potential" is not what players see. It's what the developers see.
And as Chinese developers, they have no obligation or care to listen to Americans like you so shut up Baizou.
@@elpapito7940 they have Zenless Zone Zero and Honkai Star Rail already. And it looks like Zenless Zone Zero is the sweaty Try hard game for People like Mtashed
It's really ironic to say that they don't want to give players anxiety, when their whole game model is based on FOMO, which creates anxiety on players due to them not being able to get a certain character
exactly lol
No ur just addicted to gamba
I’m thinking the exact same thing, this article hurt my spirit.
If u want a certain character u save them instead of being a gambling addict
@@youarebeingtrolled6954 you’re a goofy goober
Mohoyo: we don't want our players to have anxiety
Also Mihoyo: Create SCARAB
guess im the only one who has had zero issue with this
tho i looked up a farming route,doing this by simply finding them would be hell so for all those that found them without a guide kudos
With Albedo getting a rerun I have so much anxiety cause he's one of my favorite characters and I want him so bad, but I took an extended break from 2.1 to 2.6 so I don't have cinnabar. My anxiety is through the roof, will HYV fix it?
Is collecting scarabs that painful?
I think it's pretty easy by using yelan and sayu.
@@MythicAce218 if you're comfortable with watching 1 hour of guides.
That's a you good thing.
My friends hate it so much they went to my world desperate for some Scarabs.
@@chronology1882 finding/looking for them the first few days is PAIN. At least we can now use the Interactive Map to search for them. Lol
Kudos to the interviewer they asked all the right questions and gave us the answers we've been looking for
Yeah they asked great questions and hoyo gave the exact same answer for everything: “our game is amazing, our game is perfect, nothing is going to change our formula.”
@@slaine7874 Basically non-answers hahaha
I kinda wish the interviewers asked about a dialogue skip button. I'm sure Hoyo wouldn't add one but I just want that thought put to rest in my head lol.
@@liculle yes that and I was really looking forward to resin changes. We desperately need a higher resin capacity and a decreased timer for it.
@@slaine7874 well as long as people pay 1k per banner for those 1000+ wishes to get C6 and a weapon why change what is giving the big bucks just focus on other projects its simple business the only time something big will change is if the money starts dropping it's current amount
No question about 120 fps 🫠
“We didn’t want to make people anxious!” Mihoyo says after releasing the most anxiety inducing video game news in history gaslighting their entire player base.
Heh?! Meanwhile I find it so much more laid back.... Honkai impact gives me anxiety. Not Genshin.
@@akemi2929 well one is made to be competitive the other to be casual
@@etam8099 Theres a fundamental flaw in the game design. Honkai doesn’t require you to buy and build characters to advance the story. in Genshin you MUST deal enough dmg or survive to complete certain quests or simply progress. So for them to say combat isnt a focus in genshin when they sell characters specifically for combat and team building aspects is hypocritical and very contradictory.
@@kyleshoto i see
They put all their love and passion on honkai and the new zzz while genshin is just a gaslight show lmao
Not getting more resin is just ridiculous. Each new area brings in 3 or more domains 2-4 bosses and 1-2 world bosses. It’s absurd that we won’t get any more resin after a few more areas
Well to hoyo you don't have to worry since all you need is two decently invested character. No point to min-maxing or trying to challenge yourself with progress you've made. There's no point so don't care about resin and other shiz.
-hoyoverse
Honestly, since there will not be permanent challenging endgame content what do you even need extra resin for? Probably won't touch my resin now
They want you to pay for it.
@@TJ_Sind2000 While I agree you dont need to minmax, I still need the extra resin & resources to raise new charas to play with or I will lose my mind using the same 2 charas all the time.What's the point of this 50+ chara roster if you only use 2 of them?
& these charas need books, mora, mats, artifacts, weapons etc. I've stopped minmaxing, I am satisfied if I get some decent workable stats & talent lvls on my charas but even that takes forever to accomplish
@@TJ_Sind2000 This makes me wonder is there much appeal in pulling for characters. Since all 5 and 4 stars recently are dull kit wise. Cyno & Heizo was the last funwise in game. So now the only reason I'll personally pull is for design(ok kit) or hype kit.
I really want to appreciate the journalist for asking a number of perfect questions. This answers a lot about their plans and game design philosophy, as well as where the game is headed. Normally they would be content with asking "random fact about a character haha" or "wow that's a lot of content, how many hours do you sleep haha" but the questions here are worth celebrating, even if the answers where beyond disappointing
For real, he/she surely done the homework. Sadly, Mihoyo didn't.
@@AA-cf4es I'm sure Mihoyo did their homework. They're the only ones with access to all the Genshin statistics as proven in their web event. Unfortunately, the truth is not kind to everyone. In this particular case, the endgame wanters are at the short end of the stick.
@@amazonworker3107 You say that, but new players can only be farmed for so long. At some point all the remaining players will be endgame players. Their decisions aren't based on what players want, but on maximizing profit. Content takes time to make, characters are extremely cheap and easy. More characters, less content, is maximum profit margins. That's common knowledge for mobile game players.
@@Loserstakethebait That is such a bad take. There are tons of gacha games who has far less content than genshin impact. Designing a map itself is already a difficult task to do. In addition to that, they need to add different kind of game mechanics into the map, need to add story behind the map. And please tell me how many maps did genshin deliver in last two years? They can easily design 6 or 8 characters per patch and put serveral banners up at the same time, but they did not do that. Can you give a example of another game that add more maps than genshin in the last two years? I played total war three kindom, in two years, they only came up with 4 large dlc, and some of them are really bad, that is the example of treating player as s**t. There are many thing genshin is not good at, but questioning its effort is such a s**t take.
@@yipugao1155 yk what’s a shittier take? Yours. Cuz name a gacha game who earned billions over the pandemic? Genshin. And they have all the resources to do better, but they choose not to because they know they can earn more money doing fuck all because people still pay for c6 characters even though they have nothing to use them on. They’d rather expand their brand and collab with cars companies then do anything related to the actual game
The anxiety bit is calculated. They don't want to give the players more anxiety, but they are absolutely comfortable with the current amount. That anxiety only exists because of the resin and artifact systems. The limited resin is mostly focused into artifact grinding, artifacts are unrewarding 95% of the time, and artifacts are required to make characters functional/good. They are unwilling to make improvements because the game as it stands has been lucrative and they have no incentive to change course.
True that, If it wasn't as lucrative compared to the effort made by the devs (they spend their time making tcg and mini game events lol, art department is on FIRE though), I think they'd be heavily focused on the end game content right now to entice spending. Just take this game as what it is, a fun visual novel with immersive world and great art, you'll be better off, never understood people who care about the ''meta'' when 99% of the time you are fighting hilichurls that die before you even able to do a full team rotation.
there's a crap ton of anxiety pulling for characters
yup
fomo is good anxiety because it makes them money
rng is good anxiety because it makes them money
end game is bad anxiety because majority of the player base dont care and it doesn't make them money
If its not broken, don't fix it. Capitalism 101.
@@pomo5103 damn!
For the skin, when I was doing Ayaka quest where she tried to give you Kimono(if I remember correctly), I though I'm gonna get a new skin for Traveler but then they just went with "this costume is already good" statement. Also I couldn't agree more on why they don't make more skin because they can make even more money on that and it will be completely different from how you need to pay for characters (if you need) since it's just for someone's desire who wants their characters look beautiful.
Hey for those who don't know, there was a limited side quest in the earlier years of genshin where they literally revealed the secrets of the universe and that quest went away and a lot of players don't have the context. One example of how they include lore in limited events everyone won't experience.
I swear I thought about the same thing when I saw that part of the article.The devs are either idiots or liars.
they could add something? like a replay for the events story? kinda like story quests, That would be cool. or add books in game that's 5 star? and same with the weapons like dodoco tails, They could make you but it? don't know how much for tho, Maybe 500 sigils? then 50 per refinements??
Yeah, that event with Mona, Fischl and Scara was crazy. Also, the one with Albedo that even give him a Bis sword. And well, people are not going to have that sword even with his rerun
What was the event? What lore did they reveal? I’m always wondering who the travellers are - are they gods or fallen stars, clearly some powerful entities given they can use all the elements without visions.
@@kawaiikitty4569 In the event it showed that the stars were a lie or something along those lines.
So what they basically said was: "We dont plan on bringing a proper endgame content, the resin cap ain't going anywhere, the limited time cutscenes aren't important, we dont wanna give traveller skins , new reactions will be too complex for players"
I'm fine if the reaction system now. But everything else needs to Improve.
They said players are too dumb to understand more reactions but in nicer words
@@yani-madara2835 but then they proceed on making the most complicated puzzles.
@@hitori2454 FAT chance. 😂
They are not making another Genshin.
Genshin’s success ramp up was completely situational and will never happen again.
That's the most depressing part about this interview.
Interviewer: So hoyo will you ever improve these aspects of the game players ask
Hoyoverse: No not really, Maybe, or We're thinking about it but haven't decided how yet.
Like damn if they aren't doing anything in the question yet what have they been improving. Like I haven't seen much big improvement other than reactions or world interaction things. Truly depressing
I'm the same as you Mtashed. In about 3 weeks I'll be AR 60, I have every current character in the game, quite a few 5 star weapons, 36 star the abyss with ease, have spent countless hours achievement grinding, exploring the lore, talking to the NPCs, making all of the recipes, fishing, getting exploration to 100%... and reading this interview made me sit back and be like.... what have I spent hundreds of hours doing this for? I plan to quit once I reach that AR milestone until the main storyline is fully complete. If I even care at that point since that is years away. It's a major disappointment how tone deaf they are and how little care they have for the majority of what their playerbase wants. Most of us are AR 55 - 60, are they really going to alienate the majority of the community? It's sad and a real travesty to watch a game with so much potential get flushed down the toilet by incompetent decision-makers.
in the exact same interview they have already stated you are a minority. lol.
I'm going to play devils advocate and say the main reason I quit Destiny 2 was the raid was annoying and the endgame was all about getting the best loot and being very good on the game.
if genshin actually gets an endgame depending on how difficult it is I may also get burn out and lose interest. it's a perfect game for me to be casual about it.
Honestly I blame the tiktok, twitter, and reddit community for it. They’re the ones who keep pushing the same agenda that since Genshin is a casual game then it has to be casual for everyone else as well.
Maybe genshin will care once they realize the meta players are the main ones fueling their income, not the casual oned
@@kaein2973 that minority gives most of the money to them. if all whales quit, they would not be happy at all. it costs them 200 mil. a year to run this game. they would need 4mil. players that buy the welkin regularly just to break even.
I'd say quit now while you're ahead. If you're wondering why did you spend all these hours, then follow that statement up with "I'm planning on quitting years down the line" that's more time spent that you will never get back. More than you've already spent on this game. Think of all the story line possibilities they could possibly go down, do you really think the story of Genshin Impact is going to be a once in a life time epic piece of fantasy writing? The siblings will be reunited and the bad guys will be defeated. The developers will want to keep the mainline story going for as long as possible trying to keep people like you playing. This company will never be more generous and never be more respectful of your time. There are tons of other games out there to experience.
@@kaein2973 Exactly. Obviously, I want the game could be better in the future and get more content, but if you are not enjoying the game and its content right now, it is not your game and is better to quit. You shouldn't play with the hope, that the game could change in the future because you could be frustrated. You can be objective and critical of the content of the game and developers, but at the same time you have to accept it.
Interviewer: Players have vocalized a strong interest in this potential feature. Any plans to add it or even just pursue it as a possibility?
HYV: No.
I cannot believe they agreed to this interview.
I can at least give them props for their honesty.
@@Superluigi881 are you serious?
"i may got what i wanted to know
But what did it cost?
My anxiety"
the only ppl that are complaining about this are ppl with too much time on their hands. If you have nothing to do in genshin, you are playing like 8+ hours a day lmao
@@autumnsphere7581 Eh. That was half a joke and half serious. At least they just said they can't be bothered rather than pull an EA and pretend they care what we think.
Genshin community : give us better anniversary reward.
Hoyoverse. : take these
I love them
candace
@@cosmictrainer2919 u love being shit on ? 👀
Lets start another fiasco while we're at it LOL
Greedy and Lazy is what i describe Hoyoverse
Most games died when the devs started focusing on being more inviting towards newcomers rather than satisfying the players who are already playing the game
yk, especially ACs, OG assassins creed players hate the way they made ACs now(from a story based parry and counter gameplay to RPG Grindy based game), and rn ubisoft is slowly learning from their mistake by making Mirage,
Not really. Literally like 5% of the playerbase max actually wants endgame content. A majority of players literally dont care. Not to mention CHINA, their MAIN money grab literally DOES NOT care for endgame in the slightest, and wants story and lore more than endgame
@@YaToGamiKuro I still have little hope for mirage, Ubisoft has proven themselves to be one of the scummiest AAA developers lately so even if it’s a return to form I still might not get it to prove a point and just play the ezio collection
well, ive been encouraging friends to start playing genshin, and with every banner that comes out, they ask "hey, who should i pull for?" - and every time i have to say "not the inazuma characters, or sumeru desert characters, because you won't be able to ascend them until later. they're just gonna catch dust on your character shelf"
and its sad, really - they're not making the game friendlier for new players/newcomers at all.
It's not like Genshin can be newcomer friendly when someone might get Yae in like AR16 and have to go through all three regions and the Enkanomiya quest. Or many of the story events locked away by AR.
How ironic is it that Mtashed describing his feelings “of not caring” anymore or “not having ambition” for the game is similar to a character having their “Vision” taken from them. We literally fought against an Electro God just to prove how wrong it was to rip that away from someone. It feels as if we’re all having our Visions taken, a game that is supposed to celebrate ambition and the courage to become stronger has left us feeling like there is no need to become greater than we were yesterday.
this is very true, thanks for the idea. i'm going to put that in my "good-bye genshin" visual novel if i remember it.
Game should celebrate knowledge and ambition to explore not combat ability alone.
@@Alex-vv2ud its funny because it doesnt do any of that and none of them are mutually exclusive and who says your opinion is more important than everyone else's?
@@GraveUypo Game story easily beat 90% AAA games. So even considering game lore and world alone there is tons of content to finish, even I'm at ar55 there is lots to do.(i know starting too late make my opinion different than most and maybe there is answer) Spiral Abyss is just addition to complete regions and can't be finished 100%.
@@Alex-vv2ud Most of the story of genshin sucks. Only some of mondstadt and most of the liyue are good. Inazuma was really rushed and for now, Sumeru is good...
The lore on the other part makes the game REALLY SHINE.
Plus yeah, there's a lot of things to do but, for me, searching for chest just to get 2 or 5 primos isn't fun at all. The combat system is godly yet there's nothing but the abyss to have fun with it and the abyss is probably the worst because it's only artificial difficulty. More combat based content, doesn't have to be hard, would really improve genshin.
To me best course of action is treating it as a interactive manga that has a new chapter every few weeks, play it, then putting it aside again till next update. Unless you're an average Mini Game enjoyer
Mini games suck ass.
But....But... 40gb / 80 gb of memory for 'an interactive manga' kinda big though XD
Yo make honkai content pls
@@RichardHowin exactly. this game demands too much from players for the responsibility to be on us to enjoy the game. they need to make it enjoyable like all other games do!
Treating like a story and nothing else is pretty silly because you may as well just watch everything on youtube, ironically you would have a better experience as you even see all the limited time stuff
this is exactly why nothing can kill genshin other than mihoyo themselves
If genshit dead game don't come to tower of fantasy community
Literally like 5% of the playerbase max actually wants endgame content. A majority of players literally dont care. Not to mention CHINA, their main money grab literally DOES NOT care for endgame in the slightest, and prefer story and lore events. Them focusing on story and lore events is what will keep over 90% of the player base involved
this wont kill genshin, most of people and whales dont give a fuck about end game, whales gonna whale because they like the character or weapon
Nah when wuthering waves release i consider to quit genshin
@@thefallencomrade50 They'll go to Wuthering Waves or Arknights Endfield, and forget Tower of Fantasy.
The end game doesn’t have to be like spiral abyss. They could introduce a multiplayer dungeon run with 3 boss fight and really good boss mechanics that 4 players need to cooperate to beat it. Rewards can be artifact or primos and this could be cycle like every two weeks reset like the spiral abyss or weekly.
I agree with this but at least give an option to play solo.. i don't like coop
This is actually good.... It will also make coop relevant and fun
Yes, exactly, we don't want repetitive gameplay loops bit at least add something new to do with friends... I do know they are adding the tcg game mode so I'll wait and see
A simple defend the point while waves of mobs spawn in, would already be a simple and effective fix to the endgame problem, plus add in coop for that endgame mode and they're done with endgame content for at least the entire year
Yes
genshin devs do not deserve their success. i honestly hope the game dies out of pure spite.
Genshin's constant stream of events and trying to finish the story to collect all of the rewards in them before the countdown is done is what gives me the most "anxiety"
definitely! gonna add this to the next survey. gonna translate it so they MIGHT actually read it too
@@KoiinuNe you still do survey's???
Too much stuff to do lately tbh, they should slow down on the content a bit. No way casual players can catch up, even if they don't care about doing abyss.
@@backpackpepelon3867 it's not too much it's just padded to shit so much dialogue with no skip quests that just waste as much time as possible.
@@backpackpepelon3867 no way! I love a game with tons of content what?? It’s like having an abundance. The cup overfloweth
You know, I expected a lot of words and excuses from Hoyoverse about the end game content. I did NOT expect "excessive anxiety" at all.
Hoyoverse: "Time restricted events have never taken a player away from knowing the story"
Also Hoyoverse: *Explains Albedo's backstory and lore behind how he was artificially created by Dragonspine in a winter themed limited event*
EXACTLY!!!! I’m glad someone brought this up
Scara: "The sky is fake..."
Mihoyo: Well, i will put that in a limited event when the sky is falling off
Or how the first time the Traveler got close to meeting their sibling was during a fucking event. Or the introduction of a major antagonist, so many major story beats are lost to new players.
Nah, not knowing supportive Character backstory can never restrict a reader/player for knowing and enjoy the main plot🗿
Edit : Im totally newer player, but never confused with the Story at all🤷, their Story teller is already very good, Back Story from some minor char are not necessary for main story
@@Zkr7 I mean, some important things for the Lore of the World are in limited events, even if don't change the main quest, it's definitely important. And the story teller of they are mid in my opinion
its funny and sad at the same time how they dodge the most important questions. As for the the combat endgame, looks like we're just stuck with abyss. No reason to grind 40 CV artifacts anymore at this point
Yep
Sounds totally reasonable and something I should do.... but Im still gonna go grind my daily artifacts later, what can I say, I just like better artifacts XD
Then dont
I haven’t needed to grind since I made 2 abyss teams. I made 2 other teams, but it just hit me one day. That I never even used those teams cuz the older teams are just unstoppable. I may never need too. It really is just a casual game that looks pretty with waifu’s
The fact that some of the primos are behind spiral abyss causes me anxiety so they are not wrong. I saw many players how hard they think spiral abyss is. Even 5star charas can't win unless you have best arts. Not everyone have the interest spending time with farming arts with such bad drop rate.
I have no problem with hard content like spiral abyss but they should not give important currency locked behind it, They may give some interesting cosmetics to give incentive to play,
I think it's time to move on. I love Genshin. I love the world and the characters. I love the story. I can't bring myself to login every day and be disappointed there is nothing to do in my favorite game and there will not be anything to do in the future.
What gives me anxiety in the game is the limited TIME events, and the TIMER
When things are timed I get anxious. Not permanent modes that I know I can go to whenever I want .
bro if you have anxiety from voluntary timed events that half of you people skip 90 percent of the cutscenes for anyways, unironically you guys have issues. Mihoyo is doing you all a favor
@@hydrocraftpower another bootlicker lmao. the design of those temporary story events is that they reward you with primos if you complete them, they're time limited so it's not simple for casual players to just dive in on their own pace, AND they arent gonna be experienced ever again after the time is up, so if you've missed on anything, you have to look em up on youtube...
everything here pressures the player to rush through the content or else the player will miss on them forever, basically perpetuating fomo. but nah, thinking for three seconds isn't an option for you I suppose
@@PreciousIvy casual player here
There’s more than enough time on those events to complete it all.
@@hydrocraftpower I mean couldn’t you say the say that people who get anxiety about more endgame content, that is voluntary as well, also have issues?
And I think there is even a more reason to get anxiety towards limited time events than there is to get anxiety about an endgame that will always be there.
In all though, I think mihoyo doesn’t actually mind anxiety in certain aspects of their game, hence why it’s a gacha in the first place. They’re just focusing on the types of anxieties that will net them more profit and increase overall engagement, and for them, making more endgame is not an anxiety that will be worth the investment.
@@PreciousIvy Casual player here too! There is A LOT more time available than needed for events. Besides, Mihoyo did say they're focusing on making "story" based events available for new players
Hoyo: doesn’t want to give players anxiety
Also Hoyo: 50/50
"Excessive"
So a little bit is fine.
It's a gacha game after all lol
Other than that, artifact stats LOL
@@blazn0 getting Qiqis always causes excessive anxiety
Crimson pain forever.
So much wasted potential on Genshin’s combat system. What’s the point of grinding artifacts and pulling for weapons/constellations if there is no content to use it on.
Sometimes I really wonder how the people in charge of Genshin and other games can be that incredibly dumb.
That's why waifu always over husbando
@@cosmictrainer2919 cringe af dude
@@cosmictrainer2919 weird
@@cosmictrainer2919 agreed
Waifu and husbando over meta tho
how Genshin players can get Hoyoverse to fix their shit:
1) give them 1 star reviews like we did during the first anniversary
2) stop whaling on this game for God's sake, they won't listen to your complaints until they're hurt financially
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it." That's Hoyo's philosophy. As long as people spend money, they don't see a need to do more. I'm kinda sad because of relentlessly grinding artefacts for my characters. I kept doing it because I wanted my builds to be the best they could possibly. Exploration and combat are my favourite things in the game. Hearing that there might not be anything that warrants building the strongest characters is nothing but demoralising. The sense of wonder for me died after the first anniversary. I always had hope for genshin but this was the final nail in the coffin for me.
Same, I'm just gonna quit. If the focus is just gonna be story and mini games then fine, you lost me and I'll just play something else.
Same, my inazuma is at 55%, everything after at like 10-20%, theres just no point, I just unlock the maps and follow the main story, while spending resin and speedrunning events
Now I'm either logging for 10mins forever or straigh up quitting
been playing since day one,i love the story,but most of the drive i have is just gone too :( dashed hopes,will just focus more on tof and honkai and not spend anything in genshin anymore since my account is alredy super strong,no point.ill just slowly save from comission and pull c0 of archons and thats it
Man you people really complain a lot. It’s actually funny for me to read comments like this.
@@domb.1522 "you people complain so much" and here you are,complaining about complaining without offering any counter arguement,you sir,truly have 0 iq
"Welcoming newcommers" when every new character is locked behind the newest region.
I knew deep down that we will never see endgame. It's just official now and it makes me sad.
this!! my friends who just started playing always ask who to pull for, and the only reply i have is "not inazuma or desert characters, because they will be catching dust"
and its so sad, i have to explain everything to them because the game doesn't do a good enough job of it
Okay I’m sooo confused. What does everyone mean by we will “never” see endgame. I don’t understand what mihiyo is saying 😭
@@random19273 They said in the interview that their focus is literally events and minigames. So all the time you spent minmaxing your characters in domains is basically useless, since there is barely any place to use it on. Spiral Abyss is piss easy with barely any grind and they consider this really hard content.
@@chrisbokuto4452 And the worst part is that they have no intention to make universal domain with all the materials to level them up. We got Sumeru and yet another set of new mat domains and bs flowers to farm. Just imagine yet another regions adding new ones. It will be even harder for newcommers.
@@random19273 Once one gets to the point of regularly 36-Star clearing the Abyss, the game becomes very bland and the drive to acquire new units takes a nosedive. The game usually only rewards us with Crowns, Mora, Primogems, and Hero's Wits. All of those things become far less valuable once you no longer have a *need* to build or acquire more characters. Suddenly, nearly every single reward is practically pointless, along with every new boss and mob.
My experience: I haven't Wished since Kazuha's Re-run, because no units since then have represented an actual upgrade to my account. This means that I don't have a reason to fight the new bosses, unless an Event or the Abyss forces me to. In the latter case, Raiden National just dominates the new boss.
New enemies with new drops for new characters and new weapons... none of it matters, and hasn't mattered since I finally reached the point of 36 Stars in June. Even the new Dendro reactions aren't as exciting as they should be, because I'm still using Raiden National on one side of every single Abyss cycle.
I'm AR 60, so there is no Adventure EXP anymore; it's converted to Mora, which I am now effortlessly accumulating faster than I spend. I've gained nearly 4 million Mora since 3.0 dropped, and that's a net gain after spending at least 500K per week for the Battle Pass, and however much I spend leveling or strongbox-ing Artifacts to make room for more Artifacts... not because I need them, but because my anxiety compels me to spend my Resin before it caps and I have absolutely nothing else more worthwhile to spend the Resin on.
When there's nothing left to chase, it's hard to care about anything. I can't bring myself to quit, but I tell everyone who asks that they should never play this game.
I used to feel bad when I missed a day in Genshin.. now.. it's like... ok... I can hardly recall the last time I spend money on this game
My rationale for not spending on genshin was always "you probably won't even play this game anymore in the next few months or it just might die itself so what's the point?"
I used to freak out if my resin was full now I've logged in a handful of times in the last 2 months. My motivation is extremely low.
The best you will miss is 20 resin, what does that hold? 1 shit artifact for the trash, woohoo
I used to welcon moon, but even that felt like more than the games limited playability was worth, felt more like investing in the future of the game when it got endgame and more complexity, but , no point in giving an enemy nation money to just screw us over, sure, still better than giving the terrorist state of Israel money to use to wage war on us, but not much better. .
@@ferdgerbeler8494 surprisingly based
You made me cry a little bit at the end. I just recently found your content and have done nothing but binge them...You can see your love for the game. Love you big guy🙏🙏
I won't lie, I was getting really upset as I watched you read through this and you kind of voiced why for me. The part I love about this game is the unique min max potential you have for growth and how rewarding it can feel to Juice up your characters. I've spent a good amount of money on this game in the hopes that when new endgame came out, I'd have a new challenge to look forward to. Gaming is an escape and happy place for me and always has been and this has been on of my favorite games ever. But this shit hurt cause it feels like my money and effort are kind of for not. It really sucks for what has been a great escape for me to not be marred with such a disappointing reality. I'm honestly very upset by this.
god man I agree. It stings. I love this game but the company is murdering it and it just makes me less attracted to it. I have guilt to keep going because of the money I spent ugh
The community is the problem as the vocal part aka twitter is filled with toxic people and they shut down anyone who trys to voice there opinion thinking they hate the game when they are just giving criticism.
Wake up to reality there may be never be any more endgame content
@@Kawasabi you do realise all people do on twitter is give so called criticism even when its uncalled for. Aside from all the art, and content creaters the genshin community is shit.
@@Kawasabi nah it's just your ppls opinion is so exceptional from the majority of genshin players but you all have to say it in the cringiest and self persecuted and game addict way possible.
Every now and then I would find THAT game. That I wouldn't pick up and put down and would last years. Genshin was one of them, and from the beginning after falling in love with this game I had always feared that one day I would grow tired of it because it had happened before. I dreaded it. I'm at my lowest with Genshin right now, and this article practically shot me while I was down on the ground.
Now you're 6 feet under
@@shutup1037 pretty much
bro it might be time to find another obligation because your relationship with this game is not normal lmao
@@Shadow_Symphony I switched to tof when it released. I don’t think the endgame is much better if at all but atleast I have a guild with a lot of people I play and kill bosses/ raids with.
Quit then, easy!
This breaks my heart. Genshin Impact is my dream game and I love it with all of my heart. World building, characters, story, lore, scenery and music... I could admire it all day. Sadly the game's glaring issues are going to kill it. It's wasted potential. I wish that these problems never existed, and the community could be happy and positive. Such a beautiful game has a bad reputation because of a few bad parts of the community as well. I'm not going to stop playing because I still love the game, but I will continue to never spend money on constellations and weapons because I simply don't have a reason to, and this interview confirmed it. Thank you to the interviewer for asking the questions we all wanted an answer to, but now the consequences of finding the answer is accepting that nothing will change :(
Why are you all in the comments getting infected by these clickbaity YTers? No, the game's "glaring issues" won't "kill" it. That's pathetic shit that is spouted by clickbait articles since week 1 of GIs launch. The game has a stronger revenue stream than ever and it's one of the most successful F2P titles of all time. People are just as invested as ever when a new character does 0.7% less damage than it should be. This game is going as strong as it could and still nobody is forcing people to play a game they don't enjoy anymore.
@@deliro8758 so u agree to make more fomo event to get free primogems but no more endgame content seems logic cd
What happened?
@@Sanjayyyy It was confirmed for the 300th time that there won't be more endgame content than what we've got and now every clickbait YTer quits the game for the 310th time.
@@deliro8758 when has the developers themselves ever confirmed this prior to this interview?
F*ck this game, this company is lazy and greedy.
I'm quitting.
Honestly resonated so much with what you said here because I am also pretty reward driven. It’s one of the reasons I have been having a hard time finding motivation to play Genshin for a while now. The art style and beauty of the game is totally my style but I find myself playing other games like Onmyoji where farming actually makes sense or I have to participate to make my guild better. I dumped so much money on Genshin because I loved the game and characters and parts of the community so much but now I kind of regret it because the content is so easy haha
Lets hear our god tashed, quit the game, lots of games with endgames out there, why stay?
Same, felt so good when first time finishing floor 12 for the first time and later 36 star, then wanted to build all the general teams with 1 dps from each type 2 support/healers of each element etc and now that I have all and was so happy with dendro adding lots of new teams seems like it isn't needed for anything, like If I wanted I could just national raiden and freeze or whatever and gg
If the game wants to be that casual forever then its fine I will take it more casually and go play other games meanwhile
i also dont really care mutch about spyral abyss ( the rewards for teying hard for more few stars are 50 primogens), i understand some players want more battle related content, but the game has always been story focus and single player game, all the quest have stories there are boccks and objects to collect, going exploring completing sidequest stories and learning more about the world, the primary reason you become strong in the game, is to reach the end of the story the end of the game the "endgame" honkai impact have alot of battle activities beacuse the focus of that game is not openworld, dont get me wrong i am understand the competitive aspect of games , i play fighting games but this is more of a chill game, you explore, you descover, abyss is just a tiny island in a big world, i dont use the interactive map (except to collect ascencion plants or insects) yestarday i was exploring trying to complete sumeru 100% using only the gadgest, items and "whats is that" curiosity form the begining the world and stories are the focus of the devs, they even nerf child boss beacuse some peoople complain it was to hard, so yes i am the playes that goes to the world and go explore a region, read the lore and collect materials for food , weapons and characters and leave the artifacts fot last, but yes maybe they can make the bosses (all the bosses) more strong and dificult like you said you can always lower the world level, but remember if you make to dificult content the F2P may feel that the game is not balance and they need money to win what is not a problem genshin have, you can fight in all the content whit no money, and atleast the is positive, even so whit all the problems or positives genshin is not a bad single player game
@@animedistraction9662 Yeah I totally understand I think when we talk about endgame we’re not even just talking about more abyss. Honestly I have found the abyss so boring for so long. I think some of us just want a little more stuff to do that requires us to use all these characters we are collecting. For example, I found some of the fighting and flying around events quite fun. The events where we just walk around endlessly talking to people for the most part are so boring. An abyss like activity that allows for coop so you can challenge hard bosses and maybe do puzzles together would be fun too. Basically….just something you know? I find that I have so many characters just sitting around because I can just beat everything in the game with the same characters. I have to keep reminding myself to rotate out my teams so I can use certain characters because I feel bad that they’ve been sitting in the back for months. I also feel less motivated to explore because when I explored Monstadt and Liyue too quickly there was just nothing left to do for a long time.
@Eko Yeah thats me too! I just came back from a months long break from Genshin because I remembered all the money I spent and felt a twinge of guilt haha. Good thing Sumeru got released so I actually feel like I have stuff to do in the game right now. I don’t even buy the battle pass anymore because I’m tired of getting the same weapons (maybe that’s just kind of a whale problem but I have better options for all the weapons) and I sometimes don’t even finish the battle pass because I just don’t play enough.
I saw the part with "no real endgame" on reddit first, and someone in the comments there said that 40% of people even regularly go into abyss - not beating it, not 36☆ it, but go into it. I think in our bubble of "we invest so much into our characters, of course we're looking forward to abyss reset for these few pulls" even if we can't 36☆ (bc I cant, but after my first time I also just don't bother anymore) its easy to forget that we're the minority. I oftentimes don't notice, but now that I think about it, yeah, everyone of my friends comes to me so I give them tips on their builds, give them evaluation of their artefacts, which team comps would be the best speaking from a meta perspective. And because most of my friends are playing casually, there's a lot of stuff I'm amazed by they don't have in mind. Most of them don't think about elemental resonances/don't even KNOW about it.
I was suggesting a friend a team, explaining as I go why I'd personally would use these specific characters and was putting two pyro characters into the team. My friend looked at me almost offended and demanded to ask why in the fuck I'd use TWO pyro characters. I then explained elem. resonance to her and at AR56 that is apparently the first time she heard of it. oof.
And people like my friend are the majority of people who play the game - she rarely touches abyss and if she does, I'm over at her place 9☆ floor 9 and 10 for her if she wants the primos bc she's close to pity and maybe finally loses 50/50 to diluc. Abyss is too stressful for her and for most of my other friends (although I've seen their accounts and if they'd just build more of their supports they'd easily clear floor 12 lmao) as well or it's just too much work and they can't be arsed.
So, to a certain degree I can understand why they won't put more stuff into the game as endgame, but yeah, it feels like a kick in the ass for players like us. I also love this game, I probably have an unhealthy attachment to my characters (specifically Kazuha and Venti), I invested so much time into it... but it is time I enjoyed. I've taken it slower since the first time I fully cleared abyss, gotten all stars because then I got the feeling you've described in your video. Mostly I just log on, do dailies and fuck right off again. But other days, I just wish there was more to do, because I love the game, I love the world, and I want to play the game more but the game and the resin system doesn't really let me play more. I have done everything, currently holding off on the Archon Quest until a "I want to play more genshin" day arrives, so I can actually play more of the game that I want to play when I want to play more.
It is a shame that there is so little for us to do and that hoyo doesn't want to put more stuff into the game, although I can understand their reasoning. I'd be fine if they'd put in a designated testing area, where you'd try out every character with every constellation and every artefact set or something like that. That be cool to dick around in. But knowing them, that probably won't happen, which is a darn shame.
Sorry for the lengthy comment lol, just felt like typing my thoughts out.
If you're still here reading, have a nice day. 💜
Couldn't agree more and I actually just left a similar comment.
I've helped a *lot* players. I've gotten paid to help players, and I've done it for fun.
The average player is exactly as casual as your friend. You probably had to explain how she needs to do commissions or something similar.
I commented that I loved that they gave the anxiety reason, because it's *very* real for players.
But yeah, only around 40% of players even *attempt* abyss. It's not even 0.05% of that that 36 star.
To be honest, I feel the same, and I'm not even an endgame player yet. I'm at AR 50, most of my friends okay very casually and I do so too. I started Genshin for the story and the characters that are introduced to it, but I'm afraid of getting no more stories to hear one day. Of course the story will end at some point and of course, Hoyoverse will give archon quests for new regions but still. My greatest joy in the game right now is the gameplay. I like to create teams with my current characters wich aren't a lot nor are good built but you can work with them. I don't actually like Abyss that much so I don't really touch it regularly. But Genshin does give you anxiety sometimes, and I hate it. I'm relieved of not being able of play sometimes thanks to school, it gives me a slow option of going forward in Genshin wich is great. That way I don't get to the endgame that easy.
Hoyoverse needs to change a lot of things and add more so endgame players can enjoy the game like they used to in their early days of playing. Some endgame players are still happy and love to play, but the lack of content will make them chance that happiness to now be something boring.
Amazing comment btw (｡•̀ᴗ-)✧
lol half of the ppl in these comments don't understand how exceptional of a player they are
To be fair pyro resonance or any other resonance is not worth to be stressed about unless the chars involved benefit each other
Spiral abyss is bad design, the entire game is based around a 4 team comp but the hardest content requires 2 fully geared teams of 4. You can either get your main team as strong as possible or you can build for spiral abyss.
He actually almost cried at the end, you can see how much this hit him, honestly my only goal ever in genshin was to 36 star the abyss (currently at 34 without trying the new one) and now I just want to try nahida since I have enough primos for her and then that's.... it :(
Once you 36* you finished the game. Now there's no point in building new characters because why? No more endgame will ever be added. At that point one should just... quit.
We must encourage him to quit the game, it made him suffer!!! Save our beloved tashed!!!
@@damianw5861 He cant...he makes tons of money from it
@@astaflo 😓 sadly you are so right
@@Sergmanny46 Seems like the endgame was getting building and trying new characters all along, which is normal in gachas but its meh that you don't get much or anything for trying to make old characters or your favorite stronger
an easy fix for the previous lore driven quests, that new players don't get to experience and miss out on, is to just have the quests be part of the game again, just not include the event rewards. treat it like a normal quest with diminished rewards for those playing it AFTER the event. that way everyone gets to experience the "oh my god, that's crazy" moments, without them having to rerun events, so it keeps the "special" thing about the event special.
like, im new to the game this year, only been playing a few months, and im constantly having videos be recommended to me that cover past event quests and learning bits of lore that i would not have gotten otherwise, and im sure there's STILL loads i haven't come across yet because i dont know what to even search for myself- merely relying on the algorithm's to provide me with the info as it sees fit. being able to play the quests myself would allow me to learn and enjoy them IN game. even if the entire quest only rewards me with like 40 primos and a handful of mora, exp books, and what have you. it'd still be content to play, enjoy, and experience myself.
also, the lack of skins has definitely been one of the more confusing things for me, since just about any online game has OODLES of skins to buy, and yet this one has almost none. while more MT's aren't necessarily nice, it's very strange that they haven't utilized that easy money making tool
Even tho this article describes exactly, what I thought how the devs see the game, it is still very depressing to read xD
It's like when you expect nothing and still get disappointed 😬
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Ayo dabuin
xD CUTE! n.n
This is exactly why i stopped pulling for weapons and cons about a year ago during last anniv. I already knew back then that they will never improve abyss or add harder content. I also accepted this game is more catered to casuals. This interview just confirmed all my suspicions a year ago and now i regret nothing in stopping in whaling on this game like I did back in 2020-2021
very nice pfp
sure
ironically they also want to target whales
@@dumbledoratheexplora1140 some whales just want to show off their collection, other just want to "beat" the game fast, skip the story and pikachu face when they see that there is nothing to "beat".
Other ones are just streamers and youtubers
Received 60ar 3 weeks ago. With a clear conscience, I deleted the game, and I am no longer addicted. I'll be back when they add Snezhnaya.
The fact that the map is going to continue expanding but the resin adjustment is never going to happen demotivates me.
Of course it was gonna expand
Watching this emotional journey, it shows me how bad a printed interview can be if every answer is ‘no’. Pro tip to developers, don’t say no to everything.
ikr. I dont see a, maybe, in the future, its a possibility, etc. but also, maybe there is things lostin translation.
in an interview, say “maybe” instead of no.
that is lying to players... just because u arent happy with what they said dont mean they need to lie to make u happy.. Its a good thing they straight up said its not gonna happen...
Knowing there won't be any further adventures for the characters I've spent a lot of time and money on makes me genuinely regret all of that.
Me too my friend meee tooo
Why tho. There is No PvP. Its your Account. What did you think endgame Looks Like in a Game without PvP? Its Like any other Game on this Planet. But only If you want 100% spend Like 10k monney.
Please quit the game!!!
Even tho, u can compete for leader boards or something, there r so many ways they can make it kinda pvp or at worth the time or money spent
@@brkjhones6262 hope they do that
I love how this basically means that constellations for 5* characters and 5* weapons hold no value. You usually buy stuff like this to make the game easier, hence the p2w, but the abyss can be beaten with c0 characters and 4* weapons. The only other content that may be difficult besides floor 11-12 is within certain events that give you 2 crystals for the “extreme difficulties”. I still love the game and will continue to play it, but I’m definitely slowing down on weapons and constellations.
still depends on the players tho, as for me i like the abyss and to collect 5* weapons/const
For me is actually a good thing, not everybody has mtashed luck or his artefacts, i understand his Point of view but not everybody have his stuff, i only buy welking moon and bp sometimes, i fan clear the abyss but it is not really easy, i stil enjoy the game and i will wait for new pg that i like to play with, this is not a game that u need to play all day every day so that is fine imo👍
They decide this based on data and survey. Most whales and casual players will gladly roll for 5 stars and constellations for the characters they like and dont want to hurt their brain with spiral abyss cuz they got their job to work with during the day already .
@@hitori2454 Oh that’s fine and I completely understand wanting to get constellations/weapons, but with them confirming that there won’t be end game content, there’s literally no reason to get them besides collecting. My issue with this is that there are people who spent money and are saving in hopes for end game which we now know isn’t coming.
To most people that actually built their characters, it was always clear 5* weapons and 5* cons were paid to win. The game is not balanced for those things, the game isn't even balanced for built C0 characters.
It's why I'm quite bitter how the community praises things like C2 Raiden for being such a "good con to get". I assure everyone that no content needs even half the power of C2 Raiden.
It is weird how they want us not to play their game. I feel like i dont get punished for leaving for a few months. I mean the daily check in bonus is laughably bad. There is no reason or pressure to build characters. With no endgame in sight I dont even feel the need to play to clear floor 12 for 8 extra wishes a year. No endgame, no need to play everyday lol.
I really got more into genshin after finding your videos on youtube. It made me want to learn more about the game, how to build up characters and so on, and it breaks my heart to see you deliver these awful news. Thank you for the passion in your videos. It means a lot for many of us, i am sure. Especially for the ones like me who engaged to the game with your content. Best of vibes, mtashed!
You know I got to know Genshin through Bwaap.
My friend get to know it through Tectone as he was an Arknight player.
I really liked how much Bwaap loved the story and talked as if he was there. So it got rubbed on me.
Plus he was f2p since day one.
I feel like many of us are influenced by the CC we follow.
As a day 1 player, i just feel the same as you Mtashed. Right now I'm wondering if I just quit or keep playing as F2P.
One thing is for sure, I won't give my money to a company the size of Mihoyo that just can't handle their players who want endgame content.
Mihoyo is not a indie company, Genshin is one of, if not, the biggest mobile game in the market right now and they can't deliver a simple basic feature as endgame, this is unacceptable.
And just to make one thing clear, I'm happy for players who play genshin just for exploration, story and character collection, but as a player who wants endgame content, it's horrible to be treated like this by such a big company.
Lol Genshin was created to fund their Honkai Impact game and the GGZ franchise. You guys need to understand that.
I quit after they sold us a broken Product in yae miko then fixed her then rolled back the fix and broke her again
@@cjbordelon1410 it wasn't much of a fix tbh and she's still kinda broken in other ways either way tbh and not in the good way as well i would know I built and use her still and it's pain.
That was honestly the most depressing interview of all time. They could've at least tried to care, but they basically just admitted that they don't care about the longevity of the game whatsoever.
Literally like 5% of the playerbase max actually wants endgame content. A majority of players literally dont care. Not to mention CHINA, their main money grab literally DOES NOT care for endgame in the slightest, and prefer story and lore events. Them catering towards story and events is what will keep over 95% of the player base going, especially in places like China, or Japan
@@Zhangjiajie425 maybe we are that 5% but it really still hurts knowing that nothing really matters it was obvious but now it is confirmed. They probably could make some endgame content with the rewards that you ain't gonna miss out on if you are that majority of the player base that prefer casual gameplay that doesn't care about it at all. imo it would be nice for us who actually had any hopes to ever see the anything in the end lol
@@Zhangjiajie425 so by endgame do you guys mean like an endgame storyline or like an endgame spiral abyss? I’m like soo confused 😅
@@random19273 another gamemode like spiral abyss
@@random19273 I guess they want a new spiral abyss with 1000* more HP so that they can find their artifact grinding or c6 r5 character are rewarding
Mtashed on UA-cam: “I Want To Quit.”
Mtashed on Twitch: “I’m Not quitting. Just Sad. Overwatch later?”
Mihoyo really went the most unexpected route with that. "We don't wanna make end game content for the sake of our players mental health" ...
That was such a lame excuse. I'm actually insulted lmao they could've kept that. Like just say no comment that would've been better 😭
we need mor econtent i love genshin since the beginning of the game i mean they just waste it
@@josephlouisbondoc7918 We already have more than enough content but it's not endgame content.
Fucking facts, just say it's not in our plans and it would've been easier to digest, not talking about anxiety when your whole game is designed on the basis of FOMO and oh no you're running out of time
Last anniversary was so dire and dreary I had to take a year long leave for the sake of my mental health. So they're failing on that front.
bro they better do it for mental health because half you ppl in this comment section are breaking down over not playing 12 + 3 more hours of genshin a day lol its for your own good
Thanks tashman for holding out hope for us, for so long. I gave up hope for our dream endgame and have come to accept this game for what it is a while back. Watching you get emotional really hits home and I really feel for you man. I love genshin for what it is, and hope to continue to watch this game through you and your antics. Much love brother.
No no we must save god tashed from thia hell, he deserver game with better endgame, we must encourage him to quit for better content!!!
@@damianw5861 well "Better content" Can be defined by different people as different things, For example for one person farming for the "End game" of genshin could be fun for some, Or adding thier own challenges like sword only, Personally I think he should do what he likes. from what I see he has fun doing genshin, But sometimes it's frustrating. it depends on him none of us ^^
mtashed, I felt your pain at the end when you said that the game died for you, when your identity is tied to an elusive end game you wish to have. As a casual player, I also understand the developer of genshin as I play the games for an hour or so with friends and family and just simply appreciate the journey. As you said, you recognize the community you develop and the thousands of video content you created have enriched this community, and for that I thank you, for it has not been wasted. you matter mtashed.
Enriched in what way???
The ideas he puts out to be detrimental to the game are barely wanted by the majority of the player base. Also getting emotional and making a big deal over small things to cause drama isn't helpful to anyone.
He can always do more creative content, not just theory crafting.
@@JFJPX Do you think that article is a small thing ????
Oh, I see so, you are a new player that hasn't even completed spirals abyss
@@raghavdabar Yes, I've been here since launch but I rather face reality than to try to relate to the tears of a terrible e-celeb.
No one likes abyss, no normal person at least. The fact they haven't done an abyss 2.0 until now means that they know what type of content most of the player base gravitates to.
Also NA team is most definitely not in charge of deciding or even making future content, that's why they barely give answers to any of the questions that were made, because they cannot disclose internal info and also.. they just don't fucking make the decisions of the game if any at all.
it died to him because hes a greedy streamer who understands that there is no content for him to stream consistently lmfao, if he tries to stream another game his stream will die. Thats why hes mad and thats the bitter truth. He doesnt give a fck what Mihoyo does as long its something he can make content on and end game is one of those things
What you said at the end is so sad and relatable:
"I (was) going to grind all these items; get the most stacked (f2p) account; and when they add the endgame I am going to be the first one to stomp it"
Most of the more driven players were probably thinking in similar lines and hoping for the best, but with the confirmation we now have, this hope is dead.
Though there is still a small hope, that the feedback from the interview was not officially sanctioned/true or MAYBE they listed to the backlash this news is generating and do reconsider...
Theres no real backlash, when you understand tryhards are a minority in the game you will understand why they gave those answers.
The days of grinding are ended. Time to log in for new areas for a week and quit again. Thankfully there's a lot of new games coming out that I'm excited for. Thank you for this video, it summed up my --- all of our --- frustrations and disappointment so well. Reading the comments is nice because it shows this is a wide spread feeling about the game, not just a couple people's disappointment. Hope you can find other games you find enjoying.
what makes me sad, is that this game is gold, and they destroyed it with bullshit company business.
games are coming out, but as far as i can see, none of the new games even come close to how good genshin is.
The game is not the problem here, the management of it is.. greedy people.
@@WastedTalent83 it happens to all rich people for some reason. once they make a certain amount of money, they want more and more and more and more... the same happened to genshin sadly. they only care about even more money, and thats it
I mean if I was a casual gamer then I guess the news would be disappointing but not the end of the world, but as a content creator, I don't know for how long I can make content on this game without any future plans of improvement. It's basically just a cycle of patch drops, play story quests, pull for the occasional new character, repeat. I mean at some point that's gotta get old for people to watch right? It really concerns me especially because this is literally my job atm and I don't wanna give it up because a game can't sustain the viewership.
Just quit quit quit!!!
Casual players wouldnt bother to read articles like this one lmao
Honestly abyss is why I play the game it's been my goal since day one to get super sweaty endgame and to hear that there won't be endgame as much ad I already knew just sucks to hear it from the devs mouths themselves
yuh, tbf games still good for what it is. just a bummer. check out Deep Rock Galactic or warframe.
what gives me anxiety in this game is the endless, pointless dialog that i cannot skip. I have limited time to play and can't handle all that dialog man...
EXACTLY!! People on twitter are all like "there is enough content in Genshin already, we have jobs I don't have time to play all day" Like, but you have time to sit through 6 hours of unskipable dialogue?! I don't get it.
it’s sad to see so much wasted potential. i liked the lore of the game, world, building, and the elemental system is really interesting. i wish they would just listen to the community because there’s literally no downside. more happy players and more guidance for them. feels like this game is heading for a major downfall, maybe even before the later nations are released… it depends.
They are listening to the community. The CHINESE community who make up a majority of Profits. Add in the little Pinks who can snitch to the CCP.
Mihoyo has every reason to appeal to Chinese Players.
The game would 100% be better if literally anyone besides hoyoverse was developing it
Yes. It has been months since I dont even answer their surveys anymore. The requests for endgame and resin are here since the beggining and they didnt do anything other than increasing the limit one time to 160. This sucks...
They are listening. Literally like 5% of the playerbase max actually wants endgame content. A majority of players literally dont care. Not to mention CHINA, their main money grab literally DOES NOT care for endgame in the slighest
@@cjbordelon1410 I disagree. Because Genshin has no competition.
The map is very huge for me now, Genshin should think of applying mounts for exploration
They really do need mounts!
YES!
.... pretend I’m dumb. Can you explain what you mean by that cause I didn’t get it.
Need a beast to ride
what are mounts?
I am trying very hard to understand how it can be difficult to allow players to replay past limited time events... First, you already have the content there, you might need to update it to be compatible with newer features, but the cutscenes, dialogue etc. are all there. Second, if your concern is storage space, do it like the language pack. have an option in the quest menu to replay past content then prompt the player to download the data package for it for the quest to be made available. After they are done, give them the option to delete the limited time event data. Another gacha game I play does this all the time, for events dating all the way back from its release 3 or 4 years back. Just put them all in a server for players to manage on their own. It feels like they are just lazy and greedy. Wanting to do the least they can and continue milking the whales with eye candy and nothing more.
They did talk about bringing the event back in the future
It's technical limitations I think - All of this content would be taking a lot of space on disk and so.
That being said, I agree all of this content being thrown to waste probably isn't the smartest thing they do.
They are just lazy
@@walterwhite4398 but if they bring it back what about us old players. Who already did it? What will we do
@@pizzacrust8962 idk man probably using a story keys or something
I mean yeah you do have a point but then again...
Some people might get the anxiety if the new high level end game content is something they "have to do" while they primarily play for different aspects.
Similarly some people might be using suboptimal characters because A) shit RNG B) they like their design/story etc and C) they are more fun than "one shot" characters. Your view of numerical value is not valid for everyone.
The fact that you personally don't have problem with all the various reactions etc, again, is not valid for everyone out there?
Also they said they are not considering another area as the spiral abyss... ie. another solo player hard arena combat. There is no need for two of those. And if you won't need super min-maxed artifacts, then you don't need more resin for farming the super optimal artifacts.
So I get you, but we should remember that there is really wide player base, not everyone is minmaxing focused.
Your analogy to league that they delete 5 favorite characters... they do it all the time, by reworks some characters no more exist and by new character some are so obsolete they are not really used, because in that game the numbers really do matter.
I totally agree, I don't bother with spiral abyss, I enjoy open world much more. I've only done upto floor 6 for completing adventure handbook tasks lol. I do have anxiety, and i totally understand where Mihoyo was going with this.
Just as you said the very depressing part of this article is Hoyoverses response to everything is just "Nah we don't want to do that and we don't know what we will do either" Its very confusing and upsetting almost as though they were hoping Genshin would never be as successful as it has become and they really dislike their own product. "We don't have plans to introduce endgame content or such because it will stress our players" the p[layers getting stressed about spiral abyss existing and worrying about not clearing it are probably the same players who haven't even unlocked inazuma boss domain and just unlock waypoints and take photos in the game. Genshin impact caters to a wide audience and disregarding the audience that cares about having stronger content or more intense mechanics is depressing and inconsiderate. Hoyoverses biggest game has proved their biggest flaw.... they don't know how to design content to cater to all player groups.
The problem is that Hoyoverse backed themselves up into a corner. Power creep is slowly starting to set in and eat the game alive, but in order to solve this problem they either need to buff older characters so that they're competitive (which kills the incentive for people to whale for newer units) or make newer characters easier to get (which means people won't spend as much money on pulls because the chances aren't as low). Either way it means that they won't see as much money from the gacha system, and their greed won't let them do that, even if it means letting the game slowly cannibalize itself.
@@leopereira4718 Power creep is NOT about to set in dude.. The latest characters released especially the four star ones are weak in comparison to old ones. Bennett still beats ass, Xingqiu, Xiangling, and Sucrose are all meta mainstays.. The new fourstars are not nearly as good and the new five stars are OK at best.
I found the depressing part to be people taking the article as "Hoyoverse's word" when there are no names, faces, or roles given to the mystery "developers," all by a freelance "staff" writer with 24 articles and 200 Twitter followers.
Tectone also said he may be quitting (not 100% sure he is quitting because of the article). Congrats Mihoyo, you may be loosing 2 very big creators because you don't want your game to be "anxiety inducing" (like it isn't already) 😀👍
Is tectone move to tower of fantasy
Id love to see mtashed play through many many other games 😅 I sorta don't feel any excitement on genshin but collecting characters on genshin. The commissions are chores, and gambling addiction will put anyone in debt
They will not lose them cause both of them still farm money from viewers, especially Mr. mtashed, lol. Open your eyes
*this isnt an airport, you dont have to announce your leave bro*
Well that's good riddance,2 biggest crybabies in the community can finally quit
I lost all hope in the devs, but I’m still not gonna stop playing nevertheless. It just sucks how such a potentially great game is being screwed over by the higher ups.
Go away Baizuo. Chinese devs have too much racial Pride in themselves thanks to CCP propaganda to listen to westerners.
we're all too deep in the game get out at this point
I don't understand why Honkai is also by them and it's so much better.
I quit Genshin for a time to play that instead but I just hate the "you can only play as women" thing
@@yani-madara2835 cause genshin is just a cash cow for their other games
I mean, its literally a singleplayer RPG story game. I doubt endgame was ever going to be a thing. Not to mention theres literally 0 reason for them to do it, as like 95% of the playerbase doesnt care for it anyways. Especially in China
Sad to see you go through this. I had this about a year ago, and then I quit, but I haven't missed a video since; just really love to hear you talk about the game!
same goes for me
Shit bro...that mourning comment. You're not the only one feeling it. There's no point to upgrading the characters if there's nothing to test it. Why they don't even consider an endless mode is beyond understanding. We all need counselling. Love you Tashman!
Anxiety? You know what caused anxiety?
Losing 50/50, weapon banner, artifacts farming/rolls, resins, the freaking scarabs and not having endgame to play. Maybe just me.
Also, "not everyone is interested" means equally that many people are interested. Let's just forget these people, people in TC, whales and stuff exist.
This basically confirms our speculation. I mean I gave up trying to get those 'godrolls' a long time ago. why need good weapons, good stats, when clearing the abyss doesn't mean much anymore.
I agree we don't need to stress, don't need to spend, just enjoy it for what it is. It's not gonna get any better.
Let pull weapons for the look guys.
I’m glad I realised that long time ago and quit.
bro you are actually addicted it might be time to log off and take a break
@@hydrocraftpower ah shii here we go again
I really felt that breakdown at the end in my soul. As a collector-type player I don't go as hard on min-max but want all the characters and see what they can do with their preffered weps/artifact sets. If there's no challenging content and the multi-player experience is terrible it's almost like... who or what am I even doing this for?
We felt like mihoyo didn't care about the players last anniversary and it seemed like it was maybe turning around but the rewards are the same as a year ago and it's clear that the designer's ideas trump the player's feedback every time. This interview really solidified that they have no intention improving the game, just adding more to it.
This just killed my drive for getting cyno constellations.
Keep crying, just say that your are gamb addicts
I got really excited when I found out that Dori could be really awesome in coop, she can give all characters on the field energy and healing, so in a full team of 4 players it could be a really fun support role to play.
Now, when will I ever get the chance to really do some full party coop battling and make use of that? Maybe once or twice a year in events, if I'm lucky.
It's such a waste, it would be like if Pokemon games didn't allow you to battle with other players after you've completed the game, but invited you to still come back every day and strengthen your pokemon so you can continue to obliterate pidgeys on the main world map...
i can relate, i love genshin and ill always going to be in love with playing the game but i reached the point where as soon as i open the game i just feel burned out. its reallyyy so sad to a player like me.
I hit a wall after inazuma. After the wave of disappointment and questioning if I should continue the game. I started watching more lore videos and playing it with a more casual feeling, casually leveling up all my characters, even ones I haven't used much to have fun mixing whoever I want, and just pulling characters I think are fun, aesthetically appealing to me or if I feel emotionally attached after quests. I feel happier with the game once I got past knowing there won't be a reason I need stress and over grind for the perfect artifacts. That endgame is what it is. I can't even imagine the feelings when your livelihood is tied to it. I'll keep watching the content as you explore other things and I'll enjoy when you come back to genshin when it has new things to do.
This comment is what I needed I think, just playing casually yk?
well its actually , ansolutely pointless to give people a complex fighting system, when you decide "the game will be THIS easy" and never get harder..
Just make it story mode, with character always dealing the same damage, there is no point of having stronger character, or even different skill and build, when in the end..
All the game offer is easy content to clear, and EVEN MORE pointless for whale to whale, if there is nothing they can use their OP char on, because everything they touch get erased.
I',m, not a whale, but i kinda pity all the people who spent money to be super strong, and now, they know it wasn't needed at all cause, there is no more difficult content
@@WastedTalent83 Dude I'm not putting any money into this game ever again, I literally don't care anymore if the devs don't care about anything that was a core mechanic from the beginning. Every material you grind for is used to make your character stronger, the resin system is for the same thing.
I kinda stopped playing continuously after i finished Inazuma archon quests. I took a break for three months thinking i was burnt out. But nah. Enknomia chasm everything started feeling boring after Inazuma. Exploration felt very technical for getting rewards cause the maps were built around getting rewards rather than for exploration. almost all quests are just running from point a to between running out of stamina in between and hitting sponges. I uninstalled it two days ago. I don't think i ll play it again. I m interested in the lore but i ll prolly watch it anywhere on yt or smshit when the game is almost done few years later. The main characters not being voiced is also pretty disappointing.
Inazuma made play way less with that godawful archon quest, sumeru is way better but inazma made me not as excited about the game
Anxiety? If some players will get “anxiety” then they have a choice of not doing specific content just like spiral abyss. Mihoyo is basically giving players a slap in the face with how they respond to their playerbase.
guess now will be the time where he’ll soon play more often of Wuthering Waves
You dont understand how player retention works. For example, I liked tower of fantasy. But I quickly felt that game demanded too much time for all of its endgame activites and felt overwhelmed and burnt out. And the casual players will feel like they are missing out on too much if they do not participate in the many endgame modes.
So in actuality, more endgame hurts the retention of casual players and they are the 95% of the playerbase. Thus new endgame content will directly result in Hoyo making less money. Of course they aren't going to do that.
@@nagorner3791 they could add game modes slowly. It's not that hard. Also all we're asking for is a challenge with floors that you can repeat that isn't the spiral abyss. Like a 100 floor domain.
@@sweetsurrender815 Still hurts revenue from new and casual players. I dropped TOF because its infinite abyss was a slog and necessary for the resources you get, and I am not a casual player.
Imagine you are a new genshin player and are told to complete 100 floor abyss if you want to keep up. The casuals would just think the game is not for them and drop it.
@@nagorner3791 tbh just one more endgame stuff that isnt spiral abyss would do. All the grind just feels unrewarding at this point.
I really relate to that TD2 analogy, and it's exactly how I feel. In the endgame for TD2, there is 100% a MASSIVE difference between a fully optimized player with exotics and a gear set compared to a newer player with purples equipped, but in Genshin, you can just have the purples equipped and clear content just as easily as the fully optimized player with a bit of game knowledge. It's just disappointing that this game will never reach its full potential, it could truly become one of the greatest games ever if they just did ANYTHING.
Almost every single answer feels so detached from what people actually want and what the state of the game is right now, why did they even say this instead of being silent like always?
*They made a game for kids.* 👶
*They wrote long dialogues and philosophical talking that all kids skip.* 😴
*Mihoyo's inconsistency is amazing.*
🤡
"for kids" my a**
Not kids also skip the dialogue and talking. Most of the time the dialogue’s cringe, uninteresting, or spends entirely too long belaboring some extremely obvious and basic concept. With a few rare exceptions, I skip like all of the dialogue
@@colonelpopcorn7702 It's gotten better since enkonomiya dropped.
@@hundredeyes8917 Sumeru's been the worst by far. The archons quests have 60+ lines of dialogue to explain something that should've been said in 1 line lol. Sumeru's dialogue has been the worst I have ever seen in Genshin.
@@Loserstakethebait It was the blue Aranara, wasn't it? XD
I really like this video and knowing how much this game means to you makes it hit everyone that much harder. Its important to spread this news to everyone to let them know what to expect for the future of genshin. Sad to know i will never see personalize guilds or boss raids with friends.
i also dont really care mutch about spyral abyss ( the rewards for teying hard for more few stars are 50 primogens), i understand some players want more battle related content, but the game has always been story focus and single player game, all the quest have stories there are boccks and objects to collect, going exploring completing sidequest stories and learning more about the world, the primary reason you become strong in the game, is to reach the end of the story the end of the game the "endgame" honkai impact have alot of battle activities beacuse the focus of that game is not openworld, dont get me wrong i am understand the competitive aspect of games , i play fighting games but this is more of a chill game, you explore, you descover, abyss is just a tiny island in a big world, i dont use the interactive map (except to collect ascencion plants or insects) yestarday i was exploring trying to complete sumeru 100% using only the gadgest, items and "whats is that" curiosity form the begining the world and stories are the focus of the devs, they even nerf child boss beacuse some peoople complain it was to hard, so yes i am the playes that goes to the world and go explore a region, read the lore and collect materials for food , weapons and characters and leave the artifacts fot last, but yes maybe they can make the bosses (all the bosses) more strong and dificult like you said you can always lower the world level, but remember if you make to dificult content the F2P may feel that the game is not balance and they need money to win what is not a problem genshin have, you can fight in all the content whit no money, and atleast the is positive, even so whit all the problems or positives genshin is not a bad single player game
I feel incredibly sad and empty now as well. For the last year, I've seen these crazy damage numbers in UA-cam showcases for characters and I've pursued getting those in my own account. I spent hours learning rotations for various teams, grinding the ideal artifact sets for characters, and leveling like nobody's business. My most recent goal was to get my new Ganyu to hit those 40K+ charged shots. It was exciting to see my numbers go up every time I got better at using the character and got better gear. And now... it feels kind of meaningless. My Ganyu only hits about 20K per shot, but that's enough to drop most enemies in the world. Most of my other characters do just fine in 99% of the content, so I have no need to build them better. You hit the nail on the head in saying that there's no reason for us to try to make our characters better if there is no content in which it is necessary for our characters to be better!
And the worst part about the spiral abyss being our only endgame, for me anyway, is that it literally wasn't worth doing even if I could beat it. I would get my 12 stars for the current BP and maybe see if I could clear floor 11 fully. I have not touched floor 12 in over a year because its just such a damage sponge kind of deal that it's not fun. I was genuinely hoping rumors of things like an infinite spiral abyss with randomized buffs/debuffs and enemies would turn out to be true, so I could pursue getting a new record on floor clears or get to experiment with more variety of team comps. Or heck, even the labyrinth event they did before as a limited time event was really cool and had potential to be an endgame piece of content. Sorry Hoyoverse devs... but a card game isn't exactly the endgame the majority of us have been looking for. AND as a rebuttal to the anxiety comment, this video is more than enough evidence to show the opposite. In fact, it seems more players are feeling anxious about the game WITHOUT a endgame plan than if we had even a bad one.
I really hope the producers and lead developers see these kinds of videos, and get a lot of pushback in the surveys. Because the stances in this interview are dangerously close to gutting their entire business plan. Why wish for new characters, why buy resin refills or primos, if you will never need those new things they release? It puts a definitive end point on a player's financial investment period, because once you get enough to cruise through the story lines, you're done. You don't need any more and won't spend any more money.
can i be honest i think today after almost 2 years i just lost hope in genshin i don't even know if it is still even worth my time at all, all this farming i did is meaningless, all the stuff i did, all the artifacts all my goals are just meaningless, all the days logging in doing dailies spending resin and doing abyss once every 15 days is just useless... this loop will keep on forever they are never going to add anything over that as endgame just dailies abyss and resin this is genshin i will keep playing this game? i don't know probably until they add something better.. i am just sad really really sad i also invested so much time and moneys in this game and now everything just feels meaningless... this is just unfair
They are literally making players ask the question Mihoyo does NOT want them to make if they expect to get money:
Why bother playing this game if my characters won't matter at all?
@@verdetetto1814 hahaha genshin losers
*Not happy playing this game anymore*
I quit genshin for a few months, Came back to play some story, never did resins and commissions. Even getting tired by simple exploring for waypoints.. I didn't care anymore, I think it's because I something on the back of my mind keeps saying that this game is like a Time and money leech. Just how it was designed to keep you playing everyday. I never spent on this game and I'm glad that I didn't.
Edit: Just finished the video and I agree to everything you said. I'm not happy playing this game, I feel exploited when playing this game
I feel the same as Tashed man. I have always been a reward-driven player. I've never truly enjoyed a single event of Genshin (since launch). I did all of them for the primogems, I did all my commissions (it's been ~740 days, and I missed like 2 or 3) so that I can get the character I want. For what? To play more mini games. This emptiness feeling only hits harder when the devs sucked all last copium that we've been inhaling. A feeling after we've hit the 50/50, get a god roll, and then realize, what are we even doing?
I enjoy the story. Some characters I really like. I enjoy all the exploration. But I cant enjoy them forever. Soon, you'll realize that you are completing every new event, every new story for completeness, a self-satisfaction that you gain in that moment, only to be hit with the truth that this is what you will be doing until Genshin dies. I can't believe I have logged in for 2 years on this game, no break, to realize what I've been doing. What I'm different from Mtashed is that I can quit, but Genshin is more or less his job, so it's gonna be a tough decision.
Thank you Mtashed for this video, and this 2 year journey. Watching you getting emotional when you dumped $7000 for character that is now forgotten, back then I wasted $200 (of my college's wallet) too, and I felt the same "post-nut clarity" when that exciting gambling moment is over. Now, watching you getting emotional again when your favorite game is never the way you want to be. I can sort of feel the void, the emptiness now. I just dont know what to do anymore. I'm farming for who again...?
Exactly. If enjoying the contents of the game then I would have played other pc games. But I'm playing this game for only rewards. Like you described, I'm also a reward oriented person. I'm not saying that people can't enjoy these contents but it's me who doesn't enjoy those contents. It's all about farming primos, seeing golden and purple light, getting good weapons, getting constellations, rolling good artifacts etc etc for me.
After getting Nahida I'd stop spending a cent in this game and would start taking breaks often.
There's no way you did not enjoy a single event in the entire game when a big portion of them were combat oriented. Hard cap you got there.
This is why we need another similar game to steal a big portion of genshin's play hours. The thing is, there is no need for the devs to give us anything when they monopolize the space as much as they do. Releases like ToF and others just can't compete as of now and until they properly do, we will get squat from hoyoverse
Almost impossible because you will never get another genshin. Too situational in its success. What more likely is there might be a game that takes inspiration from genshin but definitely wont be another genshin.
Wuthering Waves needs to come out already...
@@spiderace7994 yeahhh unfortunately this is most likely correct.
It still won't matter. New games that provide combat endgame will only attract the hardcores and they won't provide as much dough to shake genshin up. Meanwhile those that don't want to sweat would avoid those games and always go back to genshin.
@@secondsein7749 nah bruh we good, yall can stay in genshin (forever hopefully)
It makes me sad to see players and especially content creators who love this game just get heartbroken by this news honestly.
Please quit quit quit!!!
@@damianw5861 Why
Like they really could've avoided all of this by just not doing the interview. Like no shot they actually thought this was a good idea
@@ACFaller maybe they are that out of touch, I feel like the only thing they see is profit and not the feedback from players
@@ACFaller Gotta remember, the West is only 10% of their income. If this doesn't bother China, it literally does not matter to Hoyoverse.
Why is anyone surprised by them saying they will not add new challenging content, or anything else they said?!?
For the first while after launch, challenge content was the main form of recurring content, as both the main event, and the abyss, was challenge content. Then after about five updates, they stopped making challenge events, never added any new challenge content, and when they had old challenge events return, they were decidedly easier to get all the rewards for than they used to be. It was already clear for well over a year now that their intention for Genshit was for it to be a super casual character collector, and that's it, if you wanted difficult end game content, this was never going to be it, as they literally pulled a 180 degree turn on that matter, and never looked back.
Then as they weren't using gear check content to get people to spend, the new main events became story quests, featuring the main characters featured in the gacha that update, meaning they're ads for the contents of the gacha. They also started making those 5* character story things, and dating sim things for 4* characters, which area added/updated when characters were added, or returned to the gacha, which again, are just ads for the gacha. The main event, and those character things, are fully voice acted, while the only other things fully voice acted, is the story main story quests, which shows where their priorities are. How can you guys like playing a "game," that is really nothing but an ad for the gacha?
Not getting more resin was also a given considering their super casual direction, more resin would let you play longer, which goes against it being a super casual thing. Then why would you want more resin in the first place? Well to get more stuff to make your account stronger, expect with next to no content that requires you to make your account stronger, that also means there's no real reason to grind out that content more than you are now. The rewards of everything short of the odd cosmetic item were all things to make your account stronger, as at the start, it did centre around challenge content. Although after they stopped centring it around challenge content, those rewards no longer had a reason to be offered to such an extent anymore. The whole thing has been a mess for a long time, as they completely changed direction very early on, but left everything else alone as if it was still centred around challenge content, while showing no signs of changing from their new direction, or cleaning things up, which is why I quit a long time ago already.
The stupidest thing about this, is he already came to the conclusion that this was it, and stated so many months ago, then said how he was going to quit if they didn't make any big changes, while also saying he didn't expect them to make any big changes. Yet now he gets emotional after it was made an absolute fact that Genshit will never be the game he wanted it to be. This is why I've been trying to encourage him to move on, and treat Genshit as nothing more than a side thing he'd touch base with after a new update, then to also move away from mobile games, as they almost always revolve around gear check difficulty, while he seems more interested getting gear, to help with more skill based difficulty. Hopefully he'll come to understand that he has a community that may have largely found him due to Genshit, is now built around him, so when he moves on to other games, most will likely continue follow him, while also picking up new viewers.
I kinda get the part that adding more content like this can create more anxiety for some players and I feel like maybe the problem is that we mostly do the abyss for primogems and for some players that is a challenge. So I feel like the the solution is to add more content like the abyss that just do not reward primogems, but something character-focus, like crowns of insight and other things to min-max your account. That way your average casual player does not feel required to do that sort of content.
This. Add some rewards that can help you raise your characters and equipments in-game. Dang, the number of primogems from Spiral Abyss doesn't even worth it.
The abyss sucks because it requires two teams, thats why it causes anxiety, you cannot just use you usual team or a variation, you need two full unique teams. They Re using spiral's bad design as an excuse to not add other endgame
I was surprised finishing with 36 stars doesn't gives you anything unique. At least a weapon billet or something you could use instead of just the same primogems.
It causes frustration not anxiety, if it causes anxiety there's the choice to not do it, hoyoverse is juste using a stupid excuse to not put endgame, they probably want us to play one or two of their other games with endgames after playing genshin
So you're telling me that making genshin a little bit harder will make it a depressing game? How about genshin pulling mechanics? Best example is the weapon banner you have to lose two 50/50 before a guaranteed weapon you want. Then also time limited event which are important to the lore just like the mona, fischl event where we first encounter scara?. No, they don't care about anxiety at all.
I think the question of adding end game content is based on the data of the majority of players. I understand that players in China have little time to play and adding additional content may cause anxiety due to the fear of missing out the rewards due to their time constrains.
That’s the thing tho is plenty of people would be fine with more endgame stuff even if there isn’t rewards to get just to really push our characters to their limit.
unskippable dialogues of tiring long ass quests gives me anxiety
@@Mrcabbagepants No. No and no.
Majority Chinese say no Endgame. No end game. Shut up Baizuo.
@@energyismygame ong I thought I was the only one that felt this lol 😅
Blame China China bad everything
You took the words right out of my mouth. As someone who's been playing the game damn near every single day since beta, this has effectively killed any hope I had for this game to realize it's potential. Like obviously it's just a game and I'll waste no tears on it but it honestly just kinda feels heartbreaking. I like the story and characters but they're just not worth putting up with how this game is managed. At this point, I don't know how much longer I'll stick with it
No need to stick any longer you hear the god tashed said, its time to quit!!
Lmao this stuff reads like a manifesto - you ppl are so dramatic this can't be real lol.
@@hydrocraftpower Dramatic? I'm just disappointed dude lol like I said, ultimately it's just a videogame so I'm not losing sleep over this. It just sucks
Well this announcement was nothing different from what I have been thinking for a long time. Even if they don't decide to release endgame content, I'll personally still be having fun. As a f2p I don't have most of the characters I want and I have none of the limited 5 star weapons that I want. Obviously none of this is necessary, I can clear 36 stars every reset, but I'm limited to team comps that include my characters. Also, I would like to get into speedrunning, so until I begin to hit peak f2p potential with c0 r1 or even c2 r1 characters I'm not gonna be done with this game.
If you aren't into speedrunning and have plenty of characters and weapons, then I guess this announcement was dissapointing. Me personally, this doesn't change anything for more.
Yeah, that's honestly how it is. Though I'm surprised people didn't realize this at the first anniversary. That was a plain and simple indication that they didn't care about making the game any better. Part of making it better would be giving decent rewards. It's just a cash grab, like every gacha. I defend the gacha model but I'm beginning to think it has no place on the market. This is literally how it goes every time. A gacha is doomed to be shit, and go offline. Without fail. Every time.
I wish the community would do something as a whole to give Hoyo a freaking message
So the problem is, not everyone give a shit about this thing bcs they just enjoy a relaxing repetitive gameplay with a story update time to time. I always welcome an improvement but this kind of mindset will only push arround people who don't care to do something about it
They didn't do jack-diddly-shit post the fiasco of 1st 'anni', you think the 'playerbase' will give a fuck now?! 🤣
@@maazshaikh5996 also the way genshin players and trolls executed the 1st anniversary “protest” was hilariously pitiful. Yeah Emily, review bombing google classroom will totally get you more primogems.
We all migrate to Wuthering Waves .. made by yours truly Punishing Gray Raven
Its already impossible, bcuz the Mayority(CN, JP) doesn't even care about it, they just Enjoy Genshin being casial game, so don't expect so much unless Mayority fanbase also going for it
This is why I struggle now with games becoming more a service than a package.
I miss the days where we could have a whole story wrapped up into one or a couple games. Now we spend countless hours grinding for... What?
I was hoping there would eventually be some kind of endgame too, now once again it's just empty.
This is where i know that mtashed really loved genshin and mihoyo just broke his heart, i can relate to that feeling. mihoyo really want to make genshin as casual as possible, us 1.0 player who enjoy the combat side of the game just got left behind, checking to the abyss back then, the combat event even tho it is hard I really enjoy grinding my artifact to beat that, even with no reward I can feel the satisfaction after beating the hard challenge.
damn, i remember when i just want to clear floor12 (the very first abyss) for the namecard (i was around AR49-50). it took me 3 days of trying different comps, rotations, artifacts, and i finally beat it. It felt so goood. But now just meh, why log in just to do chores anyway.
A year ago I became a F2P + casual player and it’s the best thing I did for this game.
I enjoy it way better now, I have so much to do whenever I try to catch up to the main quests.
I farm from time to time but my resin is almost always at 160 and I’m stress free lol
After stopping for like 6 month I’m exploring the Chasm and Sumeru with Xiao and Kaeya whom I built more than a year ago and they still slay
Thats the way to go. I started this game on day 1 but only have 400 days logged in. When i realised in 1.x that this was the potential future of the game, I took breaks regularly.
I very much so was disappointed when I came back to Genshin. I took about a year break and finished the new content in a week (100% areas and finished main quest) I want end game. I have date quests which I don't care about or enjoy and I just hit AR 56. I don't care to grind out better artifacts when my characters are already strong enough. Zero point to play besides the story.
Sad sad sad news to hear and made me put the game back down.
"Not everyone is interested in musk reef/spiral abyss"
Not everyone is interested in teapot bs as well.
As a newer player I would hate to see less of you I’ve watched every new video of yours day of release since started playing, love your content and the game but i completely understand as well and would like to thank you for everything!! You’ve brought so many smiles and will continue to do so in whatever you pursue next strive on brother, keep your head up and your feet moving! 👏👏❤
I definitely think it would be fairly easy to expand on the spiral abyss and give it multiple modes that test different things, our current spiral abyss only really exists as a dps test but it would be great to see an alternative spiral abyss or mode that tests your endurance, damage over time out the wazoo and you’re scrambling just to survive, having more variety in the end game content i think is a lot more important than difficulty
Tower of Fantasy had that in its most recent update. It's great. There are healing-centric, and survival-centric "spiral abyss" chambers, and it's not even that crazy difficult to get the rewards that pack the most punch. The top tier rewards are basically like what Genshin does but gives a lot more of it (Genshin DOES NOT give enough of those extra rewards for us whales). Just extra resources (and isn't gacha currency) that makes it more comfy to build characters in new ways but not necessary. Not like pure f2p would have enough resources before reaching that point anyway.
ToF and GI can learn a lot from each other. GI taking notes on including more gameplay aspects that actually matter for the core game. ToF taking notes on general game polish.
Yeah, plus for majority abyss is not testing ground, it's a mandatory pain in the ass activity to get 600primos.
600 primos equivalent to 3 and 3/4 of a draw, aint worth the effort man
Dude, I feel ya. This endgame isn't enough. It's not even close to what other games have available. The combat system is awesome in this game and we've all assumed since endgame was available in Honkai, they'd put it in Genshin. I think their Mihoyo's business model has changed since becoming Hoyoverse. Maybe those initial developers wanted to make endgame because it seemed they were moving in that direction. We'll still be here watching your content if you change games or continue with Genshin! I take 30 minutes to complete spiral abyss in two f2p accounts since I've been playing since launch. Everytime I play abyss, I feel like I'm only breaking the ice on a more in-depth combat game and what it could be and I get warmed up for more only to find it's done.
Throughout the months, Mtashed is seen very clearly going through the 5 stages of grief lmao.
Denial - He still praises the game even though he knows deep down it's not the game for him.
Anger - Once he beat the spiral abyss and didnt have anything else to do. He starts complaining
Bargaining - He starts making videos suggesting endgame content to Hoyoverse, hoping Hoyo would listen.
Depression - This video is currently in this stage. He realizes it is inevitable that there's no endgame.
Acceptance - He'll be back and he'll be in this stage for his new videos.
Lol
I think the best end game content would be something like Epic 7’s abyss where it’s 110 floors where it’s hardcore content where you need to actually think about what characters you’re using, comps, strategy, etc. Or something like Dokkan Battles Redzone where it’s devastatingly hard and fun because it’s so hard
Without the time limit ofc
Or infinite hp bosses
A 4 player roguelike where each floor is a different theme tailored around enemy types, weapon types, and elements. Treasure rooms would give you buffs that benefit either only you/a teammate of your choice or the entire party. Different configurations for enemies and most effective weapons/elements can make full use of the strategic part of team building
Isn’t Epic 7 a Gacha game too? Then they had a nice endgame content like u said
I’ve never played a game where developers are so disconnected from their playerbase
Not just disconnected but also developers that just seem to straight up not care about their players.
Then quit
Former 17 yr wow vet here and ive seen alot of similarities amd am scared.
Try Warframe, it’s gotten so bad
Every chinese games
not suprising
Yeah, I hit this realisation like a year ago, but like you said-- having it confirmed still hurts. I'm sorry you're going through it man. All the best-- hope you find a new, fun and exciting passion soon that will treat you better than Genshin.
Tbh I was not surprised on hearing this news. The lack of endgame has been a problem since launch and if they want to add endgame contents they would have already did it. Its also likely that there is not a high demand for such content as many players are just casuals that want to collect waifus. For me personally I want them to focus on releasing new regions to explore and story quests earlier since this is what Genshin has always been about.
yeah this is my only avenue now. waiting for new regions and story and also the waifus.
i dont see an issue with anything they said, since im more of a casual player thats jus likes to build characters for fun, i get where the spiral abyss meta players are coming from but like sentinel prime said “the needs of the many, outweigh the needs of the few” more and more players are coming than leaving
@@orpheus1857 the only people who are crying about this are the people who want to turn genshin into mmorpg
@@wtfbros5110 i dont get why 😭 but aye to each their own, if i wanna play an mmo ill jus go on destiny or warframe
How can they decide about endgame when the story isn't even at 50% of its entirety yet? Dumb ppl I swear.