KOF13 is so pretty. Back when it came out, I didn't think fighting games could get much prettier. The sprites aren't that high-resolution (only twice the size as the old ones!), but they're extremely detailed. I'm particularly impressed with the self-shadowing on them.
I’m glad you made this video study. I’m an animator. I was literally playing this the other night and was trying to figure out why if this is 2D rendered or 3D rendered animation. it’s so crisp but there are layers of depth I can’t explain. It’s beautiful. Even the backgrounds are highly animated.
Damn Rolf and Clark got so swol over the years, that they need to lay off the Roids. I’m glad not to see the little Freddy Kruger clone. I’m happy to see when high quality 2D pixel art still being used.
오오옹....ㅋㅋㅋ 역시 본가의 집념이 느껴지는 구나 ㅋㅋㅋ 태그는 전통의 마이로 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 그나저나 격겜이나 기타 몇 가지 횡스크롤 게임 한정으로 렌더팜에서 고품질의 3d 렌더링을 거친 결과물을 고fps를 가진 스프라이트로 뽑아서 사용하는 방식에 디퍼드 렌더링으로...동적 라이팅을 비벼주면.... 급이 다른 그래픽이 나올 수 있을 거 같긴 한ㄷ.... 요즘 격겜도 시점 변환을 다이나믹하게 가니깐 아마... ㅜ 이 부분을 동영상으로 바꿔주고 하면 되지 않을...끄아아앜ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
It could be easily overlooked because Xbox is not popular in Japan, but in case you did not know: the Xbox 360 release of KOFXIII (2010) is also playable on any Xbox console released since then, either using the disk or purchasing it online. The netcode was apparently much better than the Playstation 3 release, and online still works on Xbox, so that is how to play it there. The PS3 version, aside from the netcode issue, is not playable on PS4 (as far as I know), and it did not come to Wii or WiiU. (Thanks for the video bringing attention to this great game!
Garow MOTW and SFIII Third strike salute you and are 1999. This KOF is so limited on the movements per character someone's looks so bad, big heads, small arms, just check Jury, Athena or King in other hand other looks like a rhino (Ralf, Clark Terry) in general is a bad game
@@israelgonzalezabrego3551 Those are a 9.5... but this is a 10. And i was there when they came out. Some things are just clearly better the same way you can see which mountain is higher. Sorry but Nostalgia has no place in Quality Talks.
It's the best looking KOF ever. They should have continued improving this style. KOF XV looks rather behind to it's actual competitors. In this case it looked super original and unique.
Mai has always been the benchmark for a great character and passion for the game, That's why the later games that covered her up or removed the breast physics were not popular.
Is it just me, or does one of Benimaru's attack grunts, sound EXACTLY like one of Raz's jump grunts in Psychonauts? I can't be the only one who hears this.
Even because high level 2d it s more expensive...once you create a character in 3d you can make him what you want... In 2d you have to draw him every time for every frame of animation. A lot of work...
I like fighting games and this is one of my favourites, although I only played it on android since I can't afford other stuff like ps2 or 4 or whatever and I'm still hoping that they give the mobile version a new update. Its pretty good!! I really like this version of a 2d fighting game a lot!!
This version seems to be the most sophisticated version of King of Fighters. For some reason, it doesn't suit King of Fighters as a 3D game. That's why I like King of Fighters with its sophisticated dot graphics the most.
The Sakazakis are Americans of Japanese heritage. That’s why their names are always written in Katakana and in the American order, name first, surname second.
Sadly this game can't get a proper remaster without serious work. The way SNK did the sprites (First make 3D models and then retouch the sprites by hand)
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kof13の不知火舞が今でも最高に紳士的です
大門は上半身裸なので「呼吸をしてる感」がありありと出てますね。各キャラの動きに対応して体に映る影とかも芸が細かいです。
1:43「不知火舞に至っては1ループで16コマも画像が使用されている。」この16枚の画像のほとんどは……え？皆まで言うな？皆さんよくご承知ですよね。「94」でも舞の通常グラフィックの枚数を増やしたいと言ったのを許可したらああなった、という伝統ですね。
4:18「面白さ・キャラクター・リアルな世界観・ストーリー・音楽・お色気など」最後の要素、これ重要。今でこそ前面に出せなくなりましたがこのチャンネルの柱でもありました。お色気班の皆さん、見てますか？皆さんの情熱は無駄ではありませんでしたよ！
また大門のLキックがまた良いのですよw
AIが怖いので不知火に興味ないような編集にしてます。
お色気がもっとも購入への衝動が強いです...私の場合。
The way even the shadows on the clothes are animated is super impressive.
3:30まごう事なき日本一
KOF13 is so pretty. Back when it came out, I didn't think fighting games could get much prettier.
The sprites aren't that high-resolution (only twice the size as the old ones!), but they're extremely detailed. I'm particularly impressed with the self-shadowing on them.
I’m glad you made this video study. I’m an animator. I was literally playing this the other night and was trying to figure out why if this is 2D rendered or 3D rendered animation. it’s so crisp but there are layers of depth I can’t explain. It’s beautiful. Even the backgrounds are highly animated.
@@TonyG718 They start off 3D then dot over the 3d.
いいですね、これぞKOFって感じのグラフィック。やっぱり、KOFはこういうグラフィックの方がしっくりきます。
今のポリポリしたKOFは、まるで、フィギュアがぶつかりあってるみたいで、何かが違うんですよね。
I love your channel. A Treasure trove of Japanese gaming history (and Thank you for English caption!)
Thank you! I'm looking forward to introducing more things to you.
動きのコマ数が従来より増えただけじゃなくて、服の生地の硬さまで伝わるというところが突き詰めてますね。
キムの道着は柔道着より生地が柔らかくて薄いのがわかりました😊
補足:
柔軟剤を使用してるだけですw
ダウニーか？！🤣 男性キャラまでフワフワと作り込むなんて本気ゲームだ👀
ファーファか？
子熊のやつ🤣
(知らない間に話が進んでら
(小熊←可愛らしいイメージ
(悪いサンドラさん←くノ一❤️
(ATARIHAZUREさん←好印象
(Aniram←※※※※※※※
13のグラフィックが一番好き
ぼくも！
私もだッ！
吾もだッ!!
…なんというか…キャラから魅力が溢れているッ!!
PSのみだと思っていたのですが、switchにも出てたのですね。
でも、KOF94から03までやっていた自分にはラルフとクラーク、アテナが違和感がありすぎて、、
しかし、デュオロンの動きはいいですね。
>>KOF94から03までやっていた自分にはラルフとクラーク、アテナが違和感がありすぎて、、
もうこれはみなさんの総意でしょうね。
やっぱ旧キャストはいいねぇ
男性キャラがほぼオリンピアレベルかそれを超えた筋量に見える
ストリートファイターも回を重ねるごとにマッチョ化していくのはなぜなんだろう
この素晴らしいドット絵で書かれてる不知火舞は最高
しょぼい3Dじゃなくてこれにして欲しい
しかもKOF13の不知火舞は衣装の露出度が他のシリーズより高い。
背中まで丸出しになっていて後ろから見たらほとんど何も着てないように見える。
何に驚いたって、もう14年前。
当時、SNKはこの路線で行くんだと心を踊らせたものです。もう難しいだろうなぁ⤵
とりあえず、カラーエディットでユリのタイツを肌色に。でもマイキャラは94からずっと日本代表
カラーエディット得意だから旧チャンネルでいっぱい動画作りましたよね...
その結果....収益化の剥奪ですよw視聴者のためと信じてたあの頃.....
Nintendo Switch版
PlayStation4版とでは、画質的
キャラ動作は、変わり無いの？
例えば、良く有る背景画差し替え
簡略化など？
年々デコが広くなっていくアンディに涙を禁じ得ない
リアルで草
…まぁ…苦労してそうだしな…。
兄貴がテリーで、不知火が彼女だろ…？
…飲み屋に連れてくと、めっちゃ喋って皆の酒が美味くなっちゃうタイプじゃねぇかなぁ…？
1キャラあたりの制作コストが凄そう
リリース当初見た時、動きの滑らかさに驚きましたが
今見てもやっぱり綺麗だと思います！
蛇足ですが、動画のBGMはKOFASのかな？
ASは素材がいいのにシステムが…
Yes,this one and Tekken 8 will be on my list to play next time👍
Damn Rolf and Clark got so swol over the years, that they need to lay off the Roids. I’m glad not to see the little Freddy Kruger clone. I’m happy to see when high quality 2D pixel art still being used.
That was my thought as well! “Too much juice!” Lmao.
These “Guilty Gear style” art are the right choice for 2D fight games.
このアニメ調のグラフィックで新作だしてほしいですね...。
餓狼の新作は、グラフィックはどうなるんでしょうかね？
わたしも13のテイストがすきなので思いは一緒です。
오오옹....ㅋㅋㅋ 역시 본가의 집념이 느껴지는 구나 ㅋㅋㅋ 태그는 전통의 마이로 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
그나저나 격겜이나 기타 몇 가지 횡스크롤 게임 한정으로 렌더팜에서 고품질의 3d 렌더링을 거친 결과물을 고fps를 가진 스프라이트로 뽑아서 사용하는 방식에 디퍼드 렌더링으로...동적 라이팅을 비벼주면.... 급이 다른 그래픽이 나올 수 있을 거 같긴 한ㄷ.... 요즘 격겜도 시점 변환을 다이나믹하게 가니깐 아마... ㅜ 이 부분을 동영상으로 바꿔주고 하면 되지 않을...끄아아앜ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
배경도 어차피 이미지 어레이에서 카메라 워크에 따라서 다음 번 프레임을 뭘로 그릴지 정해주는 규칙만 적절히 만들면.... 제한적인 움직임은 충분히 커버가 가능하니깐....... 저 세상 시네마틱 트레일러 퀄 겜이 요 장르에서는 쌉가능이다....는 생각
おお～昨年再発されてたんですな。
大好きな13、これぞ2D格闘の集大成ですよね。
PC版持ってます。(対戦は無理げーw)
I haven’t seen this much love since samurai shodown 3
Kof 12/13, garou motw, and the sf3 series are still the best looking 2d fighters out there. As far as graphics and animation go.
It could be easily overlooked because Xbox is not popular in Japan, but in case you did not know: the Xbox 360 release of KOFXIII (2010) is also playable on any Xbox console released since then, either using the disk or purchasing it online. The netcode was apparently much better than the Playstation 3 release, and online still works on Xbox, so that is how to play it there. The PS3 version, aside from the netcode issue, is not playable on PS4 (as far as I know), and it did not come to Wii or WiiU. (Thanks for the video bringing attention to this great game!
Thanks for the valuable information!
The pinnacle of pixel art in 2D fighting games, still unparalleled even today
Garow MOTW and SFIII Third strike salute you and are 1999.
This KOF is so limited on the movements per character someone's looks so bad, big heads, small arms, just check Jury, Athena or King in other hand other looks like a rhino (Ralf, Clark Terry) in general is a bad game
@@israelgonzalezabrego3551 pixel art in general is way more advanced in KoF 13
@@israelgonzalezabrego3551 Those are a 9.5... but this is a 10. And i was there when they came out. Some things are just clearly better the same way you can see which mountain is higher. Sorry but Nostalgia has no place in Quality Talks.
@@togovero c´mon just look Kim on KOFXIII and his song Dong Wang on Garow, MOTW is on another level bro
KOXIII sprites are not pixel art. They are prerendered 3D models and then redesigned as 2D sprites.
So amazing, will have to pick this up in appreciation for the passion and dedication put into it hehe
Your eyes are right!
餓狼チームの声を聞いていると懐かしさで泣きそうになる
舞ちゃんは言わずもがな、髪の毛だって綺麗に揺れますよね…とくに前髪とか。初期とのキャラデザの違いはあれど、制作陣の熱量にはただただ驚くばかり…やっぱりイイね‼
なんと！髪の毛に目を向けるという高等テクニックww
KOFは変の3Dにしないで、ドットを極めて欲しかった
I wish game companies had the same attitude as snk when designing their games.
KOF13は楽しい。
KOF14からはまた大幅に変わってしまうんだけど。
こんな綺麗な２dグラフィックを１作だけで終わらせるのは勿体なすぎる。流用してどんどん新作作っていけばよかったのに・・・。
Visually this is the pinnacle of 2d Sprite Work.
It's the best looking KOF ever. They should have continued improving this style. KOF XV looks rather behind to it's actual competitors. In this case it looked super original and unique.
Mai has always been the benchmark for a great character and passion for the game, That's why the later games that covered her up or removed the breast physics were not popular.
I still think 2D still better than 3D but the Arc System did a great job mixing both 2D and 3D.
アーケード版でKOFフルCGゲーム
有りましたよね？
13はやばいよね
1:44 "Mai Shiranui uses 16 frames frames in one loop" 😂
3:30 daaaamn. That's some big...
...forehead.
"Mai Shiranui uses 16 frames frames in one loop"
> And she deserves every single one of those frames.
these are so beautiful and badass : D
既存キャラのグラフィックそのままでいいからキャラを追加した続編を出して欲しい。このドット絵を超える格ゲーはマジでないと思う
The best in the series imo, but i cant help wonder if these sprites were traced over from a 3d model.
一部女性キャラの腕、細すぎない?
男性キャラで恰幅マシマシなキャラがいることも相まって
爪楊枝みたいに感じる
キングなんか元男装キャラってことも忘れてそう
強いていうとそこはカプエスのバランスを踏襲してもよかったかな...と。
ユリの腕と足の細さに対し頭の大きさなども好みの割れるところかもしれません。ただデザイナーさんは百も承知でこのスタイルを貫いたと思うので、そこは尊重したいなぁと思ってます。
START AT 03:15 Have a good day!!
ドットアニメを鑑賞する意味での1プレイ100円という価値観もしっかり持ってました。
94から全て、ネオジオとMVSで対戦し、リアルファイトに巻き込まれたり・・・w
良くも悪くも格ゲーで濃い時代を過ごさせてもらい、KOFには感謝のみ。
特にこの13は完成系でした。
もちろん旧作好きには筋肉がキモいとか女性キャラ骨格おかしいとかのツッコミはたくさんあったけど、私には13が至高です。
ゲーセンで対戦するのが好きでしたので、オンラインの無機質な感じは楽しく無くすぐやめちゃったなぁ。
3Dがそこまで好きでは無い人種にとってはドット文化がもっと芸術として讃えられるゲーム界隈になってたら・・とジジイは思うわけです。
Love the animation, hate the lighting on the characters.
And they made the Ikari guys look like hulks for some reason.
ジョー東のニュートラルポーズは、ホア＝ジャイのコピペですかね😂
むしろホアがジョーのコピペだった気がする
Is it just me, or does one of Benimaru's attack grunts, sound EXACTLY like one of Raz's jump grunts in Psychonauts? I can't be the only one who hears this.
Yes. Yes. It all looks amazing. But holy mother of God the animation for Mai's boobs swinging is insane. It makes me SICK how good it looks.
どうしてもストIIIと比較してしまうんんですよね
一枚絵はKOF13のほうがいいけど、枚数もそうだし動きとしてもストIIIのほうが滑らか
キムの胴着表現もストIIIの時点で表現されていたし、そもそも旧KOFの時代から胴着表現はされていた
ドット絵でセルフシャドウの表現はスゴいと思う
その通りですね。10年以上も前に。
「まこと」なんてまさにそうでしたね。
When I say this and KOF UM, I feel so sad that They destroyed KOF.
This design was perfect.
コストの問題もあるんでしょうが、何でこの路線止めちゃったんでしょうねぇ···
これ出たときビックリしたよなぁ、ただ全体に色調が暗いのが勿体ない
Even with today standard, the graphics is outstanding. 2D have more staying power than 3D. Sadly 2D considered outdated
Even because high level 2d it s more expensive...once you create a character in 3d you can make him what you want... In 2d you have to draw him every time for every frame of animation. A lot of work...
I like fighting games and this is one of my favourites, although I only played it on android since I can't afford other stuff like ps2 or 4 or whatever and I'm still hoping that they give the mobile version a new update. Its pretty good!! I really like this version of a 2d fighting game a lot!!
Most replayed moment: Mai Shiranui moveset
I wonder why 🤔
中年やジジイの体系だけやたらリアルになってて草
え！！PS4で出たのか！！知らなかった！！！
買おう
Best looking KOF
top ! C cool de voir qu'il existe des youtubeurs qui respecte comme il se doit le travail fait dans ce fameux KOF XIII !
12と13で金かけてHDのドット絵作ったのに14と15でアレにしちゃうのは勿体ないというかとにかく残念だった
うわ～このキムで鳳凰脚してみたい！！
ギルギアみたいに直接3DCGで動かしちゃったらいいのでは？と思っちゃうんですが、そう簡単にはいかないんでしょうね。
95〜02にハマってた世代だけど、今はラルフとクラークがステロイドに手を出したんだな
3:15 👍👍👍
This version seems to be the most sophisticated version of King of Fighters. For some reason, it doesn't suit King of Fighters as a 3D game. That's why I like King of Fighters with its sophisticated dot graphics the most.
ヌルヌルには倍以上の密度が必要 まだまだだ ヌルい！
このグラとバランス調整してカプエス2リメイクしてくれたら絶対買うわ
そもそもメーカーが違うけどね
男性キャラの骨格がゴツいのが好みでかっこいい。
from 3:12 to 3:30 showing me that is the most replayed...I wonder why🤣
秒２４コマから秒３０フレームになって、ドット絵の描き方も変わったですな。平均８〜１２で表現してたのが。
アニメは中割の自動処理ができるようになって、ちょっと修正すれば使えるようになって、負担も割と減った🎉
当時にこれがあればｗ
サムスピAC版はコマ落ちしてる動きにも味がある
this is peak 2d fighting game
Good game but much more harder to play than kof98. The BC combo takes way too much time to practice for a regular player.
ah. the game that put the nail on snk coffin!
The Sakazakis are Americans of Japanese heritage. That’s why their names are always written in Katakana and in the American order, name first, surname second.
You are right. It was just like Ken in SF2.
Glad they managed to come back
IT WAS WORTH THE EFFORT!
Pity Adel didn't get completed... Q_Q
Too many people who are young think that old means bad.
So, when did Andy Bogard switch nationalities from IT to US??👀👀👀
このグラでダックキングが欲しかったなあ。まじで。
3:16 Men of Culture start here.
チョイが復活したらやってもエエけど、ゲーセンが無いんよな
That animation does look a lot more free flowing than previous entries.
kof is my favorite fighting games! I wish they keep this style instead of going 3d ..
マチュアとバイスなんかホラーなんだが・・・
この路線で続けて欲しかった。
腕の動きと自身の体に落とすその影までもがドット絵とか、職人技としか思えない・・・格ゲー上手くないけど、また欲しくなってきちゃった♪
クオリティーが超絶高いのは間違いないけどドット絵ではないよね
KOF13は720pのいわゆるHDだけど、これだけ解像度が高いと只の2Dグラフィックとしか
Sadly this game can't get a proper remaster without serious work. The way SNK did the sprites (First make 3D models and then retouch the sprites by hand)
このクオリティで2002UMがやれたら最高だなあ
今でこそこんな風に絶賛ばかりだが
リリース当初はホントコメントが酷かったよ…
個人的には一部視覚エフェクトがうるさいくらいで、いいじゃんって思ってたけど同志が少なかったのをよく覚えてる。。
まあでも今このレベルの描き込みで作れっつうのは需要供給と制作現場と予算的に無理だろうなと思う。比較なんかしないで同じ時代に出会えたことを大事に楽しむべき。
あと俺は14以降も、モーションのハッタリ感や緩急は健在だし（ないのもいるけどね）、ちゃんとkofしてると思う。楽しいよ。
大門五郎がスマートかつ、
ガッチリとした筋肉質な体格から。
横太り？した準筋肉質な体格に…。
(´ﾟдﾟ｀)？！
ヴァンパイアセイヴァーや3rdストライクとかまだまだ現役だもんなぁ・・・正直システムが複雑化している今の格ゲーより面白いもんな
Garou: Mark of the Wolves, KOF XIII e The Last Blade (1 e 2 igualmente) são os jogos de luta 2D mais belos em que já pus meus olhos.
んーぜんぜん違うー😂リョウもラルフもデカすぎる
これは3DCGをドット絵でトレースしたものでは？
一コマ一コマ動かして絵を用意してとするわけだから作業量としては想像を絶するものだし、
表現として劣ると言いたいわけでは無いが
2Dドット絵の表現方法としてはスト3などとまるで別物なので比べるものではない気がする
テリーのワイルドウルフコスチュームあったら最高だった。
見てみたいですね〜。
It's been a while since I played KOF. Everyone looks pretty much the same except for Athena. That does not look like athena at all.
グラは淒いきれいなんだけど全体的にキャラデザのディフォルメがききすぎて米のカートゥーンっぽいのが惜しい。
特にラルフとクラーク、タクマあたりは筋肉ダルマ過ぎて好きになれなかった。
Almost everyone is from Japan!