That retention with the stubby portion is the reason I no longer even consider using it as a stubby. I've gotten several bits stuck in there so hard that I damaged the bit trying to get them out with pliers. I thought it was because I was using the American style bits which are a slightly different size, but now I'm seeing that it even happens with Vessel's own bits. Vessel really needs to re-think this retention setup.
Now I'm a little bit more convinced to buy that Vessel ratcheting screwdriver. But I think they should have been broken-in at the facttory , right? Maybe Vessel should talk to Koken. Koken make Ratchets with amazingly low backdrag 😁
You made me take a quick look at my little pile of thoes and I noticed my yellow swich ones are much stiffer than my Grey ones. Side note Grey ones are made in Japan as opposed to the yellow ones besides the multi bit one. Get your hands on a Grey swich one you may just find your ideal setup. I even put rhe Grey stubby on the multi and noticed a difference. Enjoy the idea good luck 👍
i do this alot when buying flea market ratchets too, though in any other cases id say to use extreme caution and place it against something rather than holding it, had my life flash before my eyes doing this to a 1/2 ratchet
I actually do this with any ratchets or wrenches that have excessive back drag. Works every time and after it's done, they are smooth as butter!! Be careful, though, because at full blast like that, I've had that lever switch directions on me, and it wasn't pretty, lol.
I totally cannot stand that they put the ratcheting mechanism as Doc says backwards, every time I go to tighten something my fingers hit that yellow ring and then I’m no longer tightening but the fixing it into place to keep driving it in, had they put the ratcheting mechanism to the right to tighten it would be fine, but they did not so I don’t even use it because it’s annoying.
I bought the Anex model. I still switch it on accident sometimes but it’s not much. Seems to be of same quality and has lasted a year and a half as a commercial electrician. Came with. Ph 2 and quarter flat that flips and it my main driver for both
I think the retaining ring is for standard C6 bits. That retaining ring is also available on the 711l mini ratcheting bit holder. and whenever I use any PB swiss E6 bits it gets stuck inside. However, when I use C6 bits from any brand it releases properly. Strange decision from vessel to supply bits that are meant to be used on a ball detent type of holder
This is my go to screwdriver, and I’ve had many LTT snap on etc but I have one of these in a few spots and for a cheapy they can’t be beat however I did order one of the DeWalt with the insanely low back drag you were talking about the other day I think there’s like three left on Home Depot’s website at least I’m hoping that is the correct model looks identical to it
I see these ball ratchets all the time and have been curious to try one. I have the same bit set, but just not sure the form factor of the ball driver would feel good to me or not.
it's possibly the best comfort grip I've ever used. Instead of driving it like normal, holding it around the handle, palm driving it is a order of magnitude more comfortable. My work gives them to all our mechanics.
![Japanese Tool Haul -- Vessel and Anex and Olfa, Oh My! [Tool Tuesday]](/img/n.gif)
That retention with the stubby portion is the reason I no longer even consider using it as a stubby. I've gotten several bits stuck in there so hard that I damaged the bit trying to get them out with pliers. I thought it was because I was using the American style bits which are a slightly different size, but now I'm seeing that it even happens with Vessel's own bits. Vessel really needs to re-think this retention setup.
Now I'm a little bit more convinced to buy that Vessel ratcheting screwdriver. But I think they should have been broken-in at the facttory , right?
Maybe Vessel should talk to Koken.
Koken make Ratchets with amazingly low backdrag 😁
You made me take a quick look at my little pile of thoes and I noticed my yellow swich ones are much stiffer than my Grey ones. Side note Grey ones are made in Japan as opposed to the yellow ones besides the multi bit one. Get your hands on a Grey swich one you may just find your ideal setup. I even put rhe Grey stubby on the multi and noticed a difference. Enjoy the idea good luck 👍
Grey swich are made in Japan yellow is made in Thailand
Us Azon
2200p2100g is still available made in Japan Grey selection switch
I have the PH2 ratcheting, love it. Used it a ton on all my bike builds, super good form factor
i do this alot when buying flea market ratchets too, though in any other cases id say to use extreme caution and place it against something rather than holding it, had my life flash before my eyes doing this to a 1/2 ratchet
I got this and the anex - anex hands down for smoothness and ergonomics.
I completely agree, and I like the switch on the annex way better
I did this with a bike pedal spindle. Breaking things in sometimes does wonders.
I actually do this with any ratchets or wrenches that have excessive back drag. Works every time and after it's done, they are smooth as butter!! Be careful, though, because at full blast like that, I've had that lever switch directions on me, and it wasn't pretty, lol.
Hello again, Doc
Thank you for another Great Video 👍 Great tips. How long does this last. Again thank you 😊
They feel nice but the yellow switch is in a terrible place. Always switches modes when you try to use it somewhere awkward.
I totally cannot stand that they put the ratcheting mechanism as Doc says backwards, every time I go to tighten something my fingers hit that yellow ring and then I’m no longer tightening but the fixing it into place to keep driving it in, had they put the ratcheting mechanism to the right to tighten it would be fine, but they did not so I don’t even use it because it’s annoying.
I've never found a ratcheting stubby that didn't have an accidentally activated switch.
I bought the Anex model. I still switch it on accident sometimes but it’s not much. Seems to be of same quality and has lasted a year and a half as a commercial electrician. Came with. Ph 2 and quarter flat that flips and it my main driver for both
in Japan..... screwdrivers ratchet you
I think the retaining ring is for standard C6 bits.
That retaining ring is also available on the 711l mini ratcheting bit holder. and whenever I use any PB swiss E6 bits it gets stuck inside. However, when I use C6 bits from any brand it releases properly.
Strange decision from vessel to supply bits that are meant to be used on a ball detent type of holder
Another great video. Thank you!!!
This is my go to screwdriver, and I’ve had many LTT snap on etc but I have one of these in a few spots and for a cheapy they can’t be beat however I did order one of the DeWalt with the insanely low back drag you were talking about the other day I think there’s like three left on Home Depot’s website at least I’m hoping that is the correct model looks identical to it
I bought the original because of you and one for a friend
I love my regular vessel ball grip
but I broke the ph2 bit on the impact ball set, didn't seem too strong
I see these ball ratchets all the time and have been curious to try one. I have the same bit set, but just not sure the form factor of the ball driver would feel good to me or not.
it's possibly the best comfort grip I've ever used. Instead of driving it like normal, holding it around the handle, palm driving it is a order of magnitude more comfortable. My work gives them to all our mechanics.
Is it possible to use a regular type of 1/4” bit or is the receiver too deep?
He’s got video previously trying other bits.
Nice but now you need to see if you can reduce the back drag on more drivers 😅.
Milwaukee would be on that Surge for a week
You gotta give it some oil when you do this, that really makes a difference very quickly.
Good idea for breaking stuff in
Thanks!
Bye bye warranty!
I'm imagining the inside being pull of powdered metal...
now show me how to get rid of that ridiculous snag on the stubby. It's awful getting bits out it.
I love you
🙃 "Promo sm"
1st
this Roly fit to more