Boeing 707 - the father of all Boeing civil jets
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- Опубліковано 9 вер 2024
- Boeing 707 is a four engine single-aisle jet airliner, developed in the late 1950's. It is Boeing's first commercial jet aircraft. The aircraft has many modifications: civilian and military. Some of them are still in service.
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The 707 is one of my all-time favorite airliners. I did fly in a few of them, as well as the 720. Great memories.
Nice :)
same here together with the DC-8 61/62/63 - when you saw this birds on aproaching with their 4 smokey engines and the nice sound .... :)
I envy you.
I flew on a 720 when I was a kid, on Western Airlines between Los Angeles and Mexico City. I was only 6, and have a few memories of the trip. Outbound to Mexico City it was daytime and I remember seeing the clouds outside. On the return trip we stopped in San Diego and it was raining at night when we landed.
You are right, their turbo jet engines were smokey and noisy too. Those were the early days of jet engines, and later on I remember when the first wide bodied aircraft came that were powered by the much efficient bypass turbofan engines, that are also much quieter. The Boeng 707 was a well designed and well balanced airplane much loved all over the world.
My first flight was on an American Airlines 707, flight 23 from Newark to Los Angeles. I will never forget it. In the end, I believe the 707 was more popular than the DC-8, and inaugurated “polar route” flights from the US west coast to Europe. It was a glamorous time in the airline industry. Btw, one mistake. The 2-2 seating was considered First Class. There was no such thing as business class in those days.
Flew on a brand new Pan American 707 from Ft.Dix, New Jersey to Frankfurt on Oct. 25th, 1964. I was only eleven then and it was a Sunday night and The Rolling Stones were on the Ed Sullivan Show which we watched in the terminal. It was my first JET ride. It had that "brand new jet smell." I couldnt believe the awesome power it had when we took off down the runway. On July 27th, 1966, we flew back to Ft. Dix on a TWA 707. I still have the TWA wing broach that the stewardess gave me. In my opinion..the most beautiful plane ever built.
Captain Harvey Beebe,Jr. flew the 707 for 17 out of his 32 yrs with Pan Am. It was his privilege to have Jimi Hendrix and Janis Joplin aboard his flights. Captain Harvey Beebe Jr was my father,a trail blazer and an aviation pioneer.
Sky God, bird man
300,000 years of yearning for the sky. And I got to live through the golden age of it.
She is like a Cuban girlfriend, sleek and slender body, but loud as hell.
Omg😅
LOL.. and loud is certainly right. :)
😂👈
If we’re talking about being loud in the bedroom that’s another bonus.
I love the loud noise of both of them!
When I was in the US Army in 1972, we were transported from Travis AFB, California, to Osan AFB, South Korea, on a 707, both ways. The return trip was fast, with a strong jet stream taking us to near mach one, in terms of ground speed. The plane seemed so solid and safe, it was a nice ride.
Thanks for including "The Barrel Roll"! ;-)
There was no barrel roll
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@@TheMatsushitaMan there was
@@itstomatogear6806 I saw it in another video
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Back in the days the B707 was even more important than the 747
Going from reciprocating props to the 707 was the equivalent of going from the model T to George Jetsons flying car. It changed everything. The 747 just increased the capacity, and for a brief time, the luxury
Agreed, classic times!
It's The King of the Skies.
What kind of a sick, twisted individual would “dislike” this video?!?!
Perfect
Mark B. The Brits being salty that their Comet got out-competed in the market.
I might do it just to get you mad. Have a good one man.
Someone that cringes at the mistakes in the history he makes. The KC-135 and 707 were entirely different but concurrent programs. the confusion was caused because the KC-135 air-frame was delayed and they tested the flying boom fuel transfer system on the 707 prototype to keep the program on schedule.
Gotta be Australians !
Saying that the plane continued to fly in third world countries while showing a Qantas plane already made me chuckle at the first watch 😂
DC8 fans?
Well done! I remember as a young man living in Geelong, riding my bike down to Corio Bay and watching the RAAF fly the Boeing 707 out of Avalon Airfield years before it became an airport. It was always obvious with the plumes of fumes trailing behind and the loud rumble. Great memories.
John Travolta is not the only one fyling it, i fly mine daily through Europe, on the Flight Simulator =]
Well, mate sorry for too late, what type you usually flying? For short ranges I prefer the -120/-120B. But for kinda long ranges I use the -320B-Adv/C.
Those E3A's are still a common sight in my area.
As a young pup I worked for a simulator manufacturer. My first job with them was updating the KC 135 Air Force simulators. An interesting and exciting job in the 60s.
Fantastic had the privilege of flying in them quiet a lot in the sixtes , love the pure jet sound .
Originally, the Boeing 717 and Boeing 739 were actually the civil designations for two different versions of the KC-135 aircraft. The later version of the Boeing 717 came after Boeing acquired McDonnell-Douglas in 1997 and was, in fact, Boeing's designation for the MD-95 airplane.
The old TAP 707 in the thumbnail looks amazing! Great choice man!
In 1979, when I was only 8 years old, I flew on a Braniff Airlines Boeing 707 from Panama City to Buenos Aires, with intermediate stops in Bogotá, Lima, La Paz, and Santiago. On the return trip from Buenos Aires to Panama, we took a Varig Douglas DC-8, stopping in Montevideo, Sao Pablo and Caracas. I remember the DC-8 was longer, at least in the models I flew during that trip.
And the basics of the 707 is still in use in other 7's today..
Great channel!👍👍👍
The Father of all Boeing commercial jets is the B47 Stratojet and the B52 Stratofortress. The B52 has the same wing sweep and engine mounted on pylons under the wing and inboard/outboard ailerons and roll spoilers and triple slotted fowler flaps. Thats where the 707 got it's start.
Great video.
the 707 is a beautiful aircraft, there are few that top it in my opinion... (the 747-8, a340-600, md11, concorde, tupolev 154, 767, carevelle) and it didnt deserve retirement so early (the plane operated for over 60 YEARS!!, witch means the 747 doesnt have much longer 😭) esspecially the way it was retired, a crash? thats just sad...
I was lucky enough to ride on the very last passenger 707 service in America!
TWA’s Boeing 707 N18710 Oct 30 1983
It was glorious!!
Back in 1976 I was a regular flier with BCal between London and Lagos.
One evening, imbibing with a BCal captain I was told that "707's don't have landings, they have controlled crashes!".
The 707 is one of my favorite aircrafts of all time.And in my country Colombia, Avianca fly back then many 707's at the time, and another south american airliners fly a 707, like VARIG, LanChile, Aerolineas Argentinas, etc.
The 707 was the innovator in commercial jet transportation. It started a revolution in jet transportation which has continued to this day. It was a sleekly designed plane and attracted the attention of long haul airlines. A beautiful airplane with an historic history! It propelled Boeing into the commercial airline industry !
Flew the 707 often in the 70s. She was a grand ole lady. A superb work horse in her time.
Excellent video about this marvelous airplane, now retired for commercial use, but still in service in the military field
FUZZY LOGIC sorry but some still operate in airlines
I ❤️ the 707 so much. It’s one of my favourite planes.
707 was the king of the skies. I had the privilege of flying on a Pan Am 707 from New Orleans to Chicago when I was 10 years old. Sure miss these wonderful aircraft.
Thank you for the memories! I have fond memories of many trips to Europe in First Class on Lufthansa, Pan Am and TWA B-707s. Domestically, I’ve had many a trip ORD/LAX, ORD/SFO on AA and TWA. Sometimes on a United 720B. The only times I flew on DC-8s were aboard SAS ORD/ARN and domestically ORD/TPA or ORD/MIA on Delta or Eastern DC-8s. Great Memories 👍🏻. Boy what I wouldn’t give to have them back again.
Allway preferred the DC-8 0ver the 707. Flew all DC-8 series many times around the Globe as a LoadMaster and Flight planner. Most of my flights were on Cargo Airplanes like the DC-8-63. Once per year, I had some PAX flights during the Hadj season.
It was a great time. :-D
maybe partial to the dc-8 because thats what you have the most seat time in?
In 1987, as a Brandeis college student, I flew as a research subject on NASA's KC-135 zero-g plane, the "Vomit Comet." Amazing experience, and I got to sit in the back of the cockpit as we came in over the Gulf of Mexico to land at Ellington AFB in Houston, TX.
Please do a DC/MD series. DC-1 to DC10, MD-11 to MD-90 (no MD-95 because it is already covered by Boeing 717).
Yes
My first memories in jet travel are owed to this classic and elegant airliner, under the colours of what was then a very successful Olympic Airways. Greece's flag carrier was then privately owned and run by Aristotle Onassis.
Me too
Actually the B-707 evolved from Boeing's response for an Air Force request for a multi-engine tanker aircraft that was powered by jet engines (so the fighter aircraft they were refueling wouldn't have to slow down to near-stall airspeed in order to refuel). Boeing's response became the KC-135, still in use today ...
Many happy hours in Left seat of this great plane!!!!
I have flown on them from Miami Fl to Brasilia, stopping in Caracas & Manaus! Now Delta flies daily from Atlanta to Brasilia direct with their long range 757 in a little over 8 hours.
Fabulous plane. I was lucky enough to fly on them in the later 1970s on charter trips with British Airtours - these were the ex BOAC aircraft. A design classic that lives on in the 737 front end!
I loved the 707 quiet and comfortable.
We had a four 707s as VIP and tanker aircraft, in my time in the RAAF and RAA in the early 1990s. I remember one of the aircraft I was on was ex Egyptian Airlines with a terrible mismatch of randomly coloured seats of gold, purple blue and green. There was also the aroma of fine cigars and cigarettes. Pilots used to take them past mach 0.9. I'm glad we never had to fight you (except your pilots and our advisors over Korea and Vietnam before I was born). Thanks for the entertainment and the memories.
6:09 nice
707 420
Loved flying the 707!
I flew N7201U in 1978 and have a picture to prove it... flew 3 legs on it because the flight engineer had had enough... they grabbed me out of air Berlin (aeroamerica) threw me over to Luton... I flew as FE to Cairo with 3 people, ferried the airplane to Vienna taxied in, cocktails were served by the flight attendants once the checklist was completed... overnight then one person back to Luton ... that was it but have the pictures to prove it...
My first jet flight on American Airlines from San Francisco to Dallas in 1962. I can't remember the nickname that AA gave the 707 but it was something like Whisper jet like the 727 used.
Excellent video.. would like to point out... the COMMENT WAS A superior design to the 707. What made the 707 a stand out was the fact of its connection to parts and design concepts used in military aircraft. Especially the engines. Military design dictates easy access to repair in the field. Putting the engine on pylons made engine swaps and repairs simple since total failure was a common issue .. even federal express up untill about 1992 has special engine swap kits for the #2 engine
You do these bios very well.
Boeing NEVER lagged behind Douglas in terms of jet airliner sales. Also, if you really want to get in the weeds, the TC-18 isn't for personnel or cargo, it's strictly a pilot training airframe for AWACS crews. a "bounce bird" if you will. Also, the last commercial 707 left the Renton factory in 1974.
My dad used to fly 707s , till the early 80s. Twa phased them out and he switched to 747s. Just like the video said🙂
R.I.P. OLD MAN !
Wow..history is amazing. I have many recollections of the 707 in the 1980s with so many airlines...who didn't have a 707 in the fleet. Yes true Boeing was a reliable and trusted plane builder, now however in 2024...l guess the future remains in the hands of a few wealthy directors.
The 707 was my first jet working as mechanic
Wow you must have been an experienced guy
Me too, on freighters. Now working on the Boeing 777, what a difference! Still have fond memories of the 707, but I preferred the DC8 which I also worked on at the time
Love your vids mate. Keep doing what you do. Plus.. Hi from Shetland, Scotland. Much respect to you my friend :)
The 707 was a gold mine for Pan Am. The 747 was an unmitigated financial disaster that bled Pan Am to death. Juan Trippe bought too many of them at the wrong time.
Oh no, it was when you look at the big picture.
1. Firstly, McDonnell Douglas got it right capacity-wise, not Boeing. What the large legacy airlines needed by the Late Sixties was a DC-10, not a 747. Boeing originally designed and built the 747 as a competitor to the Lockheed's C-5 Galaxy, for military transport, and lost the competition. Subsequent talks with Pan Am's Juan Trippe was a rebound.
2. Pan Am's large order of 747's (that it didn't need at the time) led to sub-leasing some units to American Airlines and Eastern Air Lines, to tie them over until they received delivery of their own 747's from Boeing.
3. Boeing needed Pan Am on side because the carrier was the leading international airline servicing mega city pairs. If you were a competitor, you were forced to fight fire with fire, so you inevitably bought the 747 yourself. Boeing sales team clearly understood this predicament!
4. The vast majority of Pan Am's international competitors were backstop by their respective federal governments because they themselves were wholly-owned government entities (keep that in mind for the next crucial point).
5. Then came the unforeseen 1973 oil crisis (designed to prop up and establish the US Dollar as the Petro Dollar) that saw a fourfold increase in petroleum cost. The immediate effect was a deep worldwide recession and a severe downturn in international leisure travel (what 747's needed to be economically viable). In the case of Pan Am, it simply had too many 747's flying too many seats too often. Regardless if these aircraft were flying or not, Pan Am still had to find a way to pay for their steep cost! What's more, it was impossible to dump surplus aircraft in such a dire market environment. After all, only a fool embarks on an expansion program in a declining market.
6. As a result of 1973, Pan Am was not able to balance its books again until 1977. And, not without extraordinary measures, such as selling aircraft (long after 1973) and the InterContinental hotel chain. That said, this left Pan Am in a weak economic position regardless--thank you 747!!
7. It is doubtful that Boeing would have proceeded to build and offer the 747 without Pan Am's involvement.
8. Unlike Pan Am, TWA bought less 747's and had a domestic feeder network to service its international hubs. Pan Am was not permitted to do this before airline deregulation, though it tried on a number of occasions to form a merger with other domestic carrier, only to be torpedoed by the CAB repeatedly.
9. The merger with National Airlines was a measure of desperation on Pan Am's part, and not really helpful for either airline.
10. Pan Am also had expensive unions to contend with. New upstarts that followed deregulation had no such issue. This further weakened Pan Am's balance sheet, along with other subsequent recessions. To combat additional financial loses, Pan Am sold its Pacific Division to UAL, complete with aircraft, for a nice tidy cash sum of $750 million--a steal for UAL.
11. The final straw was U.S. Government foreign policy that led to the Lockerbie bombing incident. In the aftermath, millions of travellers avoided Pan Am altogether, which they correctly perceived as a major terrorist target. Unfortunately, a weakened Pan Am could not last very long under such circumstance.
12. Interestingly, the Lockerbie incident involved a 747!
I rest my case.
Rude did you know commenting like that can get your comment spam?
LRG well, all what did you said was true, but, it wasn't 747's fault who killed Pan Am, it was because terrible management, time and also circumstances like 1973 oil crisis, 1978 airline deregulation and Chernobyl disaster.
It was also just too big. 50% load factors are the norm for Pan Am for the 747. It was largely an ego play by Trippe
@@lrg8734...Nice copy and paste
I flew in them between Pretoria (South Africa) and Namibia, in the mid-80's, during the war with Angola. They were operated by Safair and used to transport soldiers.
Great job Skyships! Thorough and complete as always!
B707/720 great planes and I am glad I had opportunity to fly on both.
The accent makes the video a success
That depends on the listener and where they are from; it grates on me a bit but I don't let it detract.
Qantas was the first overseas order. It's first unit delivered 1959 is now at the Qantas outdoor museum in Longreach QLD in Australia. Unfortunately it's faded in the sun after being repainted into it's original Qantas livery and being rescued from a scrap yard in England in the early 2000s.
If it’s not a Boeing, I’m not going.
I liked the old Boeing 707, they were great planes.
No worries, stay home then!
737 vs Embraer E-Jet, I'll always choose the latter when possible, they are just a better ride, and don't know why, but the majority of "Hard" landings I've experienced have been in a 737.
@@twotone3471 I haven't tried the Embraer yet but I agree with you. Worst plane I have ever flown was a 737-400. Horrible. Even the MD-92 was far more comfortable.
The majority of bad flights happened to me while flying in B737-800. Hard landings, not enough shoulder room, no place to store your belongs, horrible a/c (too hot in Summer, too cold in Winter) and noisy as a heavy metal concert.
747-400 and 747-8i were better but still nothings to write home about.
i like Airbus and Boeing so i don't care about the aircraft (but not max)
The Boeing 707 is definitely a classic. Interesting how its fuselage resembles the smaller 727 and the early 737 variants. I've been on the 707-320 a number of times, the last time was in 1979 on a TWA flight from Phoenix to St. Louis MO, it wasn't a 320 variant. When they roll for take off, those P&W engines are LOUD! :)
From a business stand-point, it makes sense to have a standardized fuselage configuration, and I'm sure there were differences that couldn't be seen under the fuselage skin. On the Newer Generations of the 737 (600, 700, 800, and 900 variants) the flight deck still has the so-called "Eye Brows" (the small windows above the windshield in the flight deck) but they can't be seen because they are covered up, if you're in the flight deck of a 737 NG, you'll see the cut-outs are still there but they're covered up. They were on the 707/720, the 727 and older 737s.
Magnum Mike That is because the 727 and the 737 use the cockpit and fuslage of the 707 with adjustments for length !!!
And it is the same cross section as the 757 just different nose section
UA-cam's most underrated Aviation channel. You are really good at this!
Travoltas 707 is soon to be delivered to HARS in Australia, the Qantas jet returns home
I'm not familiar, that is a museum? Great to know it will be preserved for many to see!
@@donaldstanfield8862 Yes,an aviation museum. 745 volunteers who restore many aircraft to flying condition. They have the only flying Super Constellation in the world
Yes yes yes!!!! You know the way that guy did a barrel roll? You spin me right round baby right round like a record baby right round round round....
Barrel roll on the 707. Damn they were crazy)
soaringtractor yea I know, Pete Burns was a singer not a pilot 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
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Not crazy, Tex did the math first.
@soaringtractor Yes. He did the barrel roll in front of top Boeing executives and an enthusiastic pro-Boeing crowd over Lake Washington near Seattle.
@@carlcushmanhybels8159 didn't he get fired for that? I'm sure I've heard this story.
Comet was the first jet comercial (passenger) airliner.
Absolutely. Typical American confusing the fist/largest/best/etc in the US with the fist/largest/best/etc in the world.
As always...your videos... Simply superb...!!! ( Love the humour thrown in your commentary from time to time..!!)... Thanks so much for sharing...!!
WOW!SHE WAS MY FAVORITE I WISHED I FLEW HER ,AND THX 4 POSTING !
legend i used to work on the 707 imagen no movies one isle after 6 hours no ice cubes in the summer time in the 70ties jfk to fra taxi time up to 1.5 hours no apu but the layovers were mega
Did you mean an aisle on the plane or a 6 hour trip to an isle somewhere?
Hooked me on aviation back in 1964, watching them take off from JFK.
Point to be noted, It was never originally the KC-135. It was the C-135 Stratolifter, a cargo plane with I believe a slightly thinner fuselage compared to the passenger 707. The C-135 was then converted to tanker role and redesignated KC-135 Stratanker
Yep the kc135 was the original 707 or as they say the dash 80 they had to widen the dash 80 to get 6 abreast seating or airlines were going to buy the DC 8 so they kept to lines going one with the narrow body for the kc135 and the wider one for the 707 the only parts that were the same was the cockpit and the engines
the first braniff Airlines 707 was on a test flight up by Oso Washington when Pilot error caused it to crash, my dad drove up there with me as a small child and took the only known photograph of it . I still have it, the tail section broken from the main plane on the Sand Bar on the North Fork Stillaguamish River, they buried the story for years until recently because they did not want to add a bad reputation to a brand new airplane. Boeing now has a copy of that picture, my dad sent it to them last year.
The Industrial designer Raymond Loewy designed the livery on Air Force One for Mrs Kennedy.
In 1970, our Dad had a very good year. We all went on a vacation that summer to Portugal and Spain. Leaving Miami, stopped in San Juan, Puerto Rico, then on to Lisbon. Both trips there and back were on a Pan Am 707. The only other time I flew on one was a military charter. I think it was Capitol Airlines. If not, it was Arrow Air. Both of those outfits are long gone, I think. They made up the bulk of their revenue from government contracts.
The B-47 is the father of all large jet aircraft, most airliners and military transports can trace their lineage back to it
Great commentary and research. Saw my first one at LAX in Los Angeles. What a noisey plane but sleek looks! Thanks for this video!
God I love the old TAP livery.
I flew in a 707 in the early 1970's, very different to what we have now.
Finally Boeing! Awesome video)
Its the safest airliner in the world, and since it doesnt have an equal competition so it doesnt have too much automation assist . Just the usual enough technology at that time, allowing pilots to exercise and honing their airmanship.
Just a small correction George H W Bush not Jr.
Yeah that didnt sound right
You will be surprised, but it is George W. Bush) The VC-137C last flight was in 2001
I know) But now I'm talking directly about the VC-137C - modifications of the 707. It started flights as the Air Force One in 1959 and finished in 2001.
I caught that too around frames 8:37 - 8:39. I'm not sure which U.S. president(s) used it but there is a VC-137 Air Force One at the Pima Air & Space Museum just north of Tucson, Arizona.
Thanks. :)
I never believed it could do a roll ! Now I am sure it can do It.
Pankaj Jaiswal Yes it did and I saw the 2 barrel rolls in person that day in August 1955 on the shores of Lake Washington in Seattle during the hydroplane races !!! "Tex" Johnstons famous reply to Bill Allen Pres of Boeing asking "what the hell did you think you were doing ???" Tex's famous reply "SELLING AIRPLANES.....Sir"....... and sell airplanes they did !!!!
something Boeing got relativley right.by today's standards,4 engines are a thing of the past,hence 747's are rapidly dissapearing.
Are you also going to do a (McDonnell)Douglas marathon? Sad they merged with Boeing, less competitions on the market means more innovation. This especially what we need in a more environmentally aware world. And MDD made 2 of the most beautiful tri-jets! I also love the cockpit window arrangement of the windows on the MD-80s series!
The most charismatic jet airliner in the history so far #
You make really good, well researched videos Sky. It is interesting that you did not mention the number of accidents the 707 had. It was a lot. This shows the state of aviation safety in general at that time and doesn't reflect badly on the 707 alone. The DC 8 was no better.
Redlock most were NOT the fault of the plane !! < weather, pilot error, navigation error, terrorist attacks, hijacking etc !!!!
I always felt that the Vickers VC10 was the better airliner. But Boeing won the market with faster construction of airliners and better marketing.
The 707 was far more efficient, it wasnt just better marketing. The 707 was profitable.
VC10 was a much later construction and flew first time in 1962 whilst the 707 prototype flew in 1954. So no wonder the VC10 had some advantages.
Kept its looks after all these years.
1st in sales of first generation jetliner because of military contracts. 2nd in hours & service given to airlines to its Douglas rival.
@1:24 The Boeing 377 Stratocruiser was very advanced for its time, based on the Boeing B-29/B-50 Superfortress design. Its chief rivals were the Douglas DC-6/7 were cheaper and the Lockheed Constellation/Super Constellation had better long range performance.
If anyone was sluggish it was Douglas and Lockheed. Boeing had gobs of experience from the B-47, B-52 and KC-135/Dash80 program and immediately capitalized on the failure of the DeHavilland Comet. Douglas struggled to keep up with the DC-8, and Lockheed made a bad bet on the L-188 Electra turboprop for civilian aviation. Lockheed only made money on the military P-3 maritime patrol variant of the L-188 which it produced for nearly 3 decades.
I think the B707 is the father of all widebody medium/long haul jets while the B717 is the grandad of all narrow-body/regional jets.
I love his engines sounds and superpolution hahhaha viva 707
I thought the British Comet was the first to use jets.....though the thing crashed a lot due to its big square windows tiring the fuselage..
Comet yes but it had serious issues. Avro Jetliner was the first that worked. 707 was 2nd.
Nice pictures!
Thanks for putting a photo of a 707 from TAP Air Portugal as a thumbnail.
Greetings from Portugal!
I've always wanted to visit the beautiful Portugal)
You are officially invited to come and visit us. In my case i've always wanted to visit Russia, and I will!
By the way, your videos are great!
I'm half Portuguese
To someone below: .
The 747 evolved from Boeing’s unsuccessful design proposal for a US military transport in mid 1960s.
(The competition was won by Lockheed’s C-5 Galaxy)
Air travel is so much safer now than back in the days of the 707:
1. Douglas DC-8 (first delivery 1959) - 556 built. 15% suffered a hull loss. 2255 died on plane. 406 deaths per 100 planes built.
2. Boeing 707 (first delivery 1958) - 1010 built. 17% suffered a hull loss. 3039 died on plane. 301 deaths per 100 planes built.
3. Boeing 757 (first delivery 1983) - 1049 built. 1% suffered a hull loss. 575 died on plane. 55 deaths per 100 planes built.
4. Boeing 737NG (first delivery 1997) - 7096 built.
Nothing like old school Boeing production. Since 180 to 2014 after this company go down.
I thought the horizontal "spear" was very cool, can you imagine just how much run it was to clean the bodies of birds of that projectile
My first commercial and long range flight was in a Boeng 707, way back in 1972, fond memories. About the barrel roll the test pilot performed, I think it was preplanned by Boeng. There are a host of components in an aircraft that need to be level which a roll would upset, instruments, tanks, wires and cables, plus pens, clipboards, manuals plus other test equipment and fittings in the back cabin. Military and acrobatic aircraft specs are for such maneuvers. I think the engineers on the ground prepared it for that barrel roll. The aircraft was after all made for military and civilian use.
+Mohabat khan Malak
*"About the barrel roll the test pilot performed, I think it was preplanned by Boeng."*
Not really. In a famous interview the pilot, Tex Johnston, describes how he was called to the office of Boeing's president, Bill Allen, and asked "what he thought he was doing" when he did that barrel roll. ua-cam.com/video/NcLQLcUYRSw/v-deo.html
*"There are a host of components in an aircraft that need to be level which a roll would upset, instruments, tanks, wires and cables, plus pens, clipboards, manuals plus other test equipment and fittings in the back cabin."*
No, not in a properly executed barrel roll. During the maneuver the airplane is kept at positive 1g and in coordinated flight during the whole time. There are famous videos videos of Bob Hoover actually pouring tea from a jar into a glass during a barrel roll as he flew the maneuver with one hand, and at the same time, with the other, filled the glass with tea from the jar.
ua-cam.com/video/V9pvG_ZSnCc/v-deo.html
I think you are reffering to a loop maneuver, where the aircraft can speed up and build "+G". In a barrel roll (in a straight line) the G force remains constant.
Tex Johnston's test flight was by all means incredible and pioneering of the new and better jet age, but test pilots especially of large aircraft are given a briefing and work closely with the design and engineering team at the construction stage, months before. The first flight also strictly follows parameters laid down by the design engineers.
At the time, there was stiff competition between the British contender the Comet and the US manufacterers. The Comet was not a success due to early days design faults which saw some horrific crashes. So it is plausable that Boeng wanted to win the hearts and minds of customers by demonstrating the agility and capabilities of its aircraft.
+Mohabat khan Malak
No, I mean what I said: a barrel roll. You can do the maneuver with a constant, +1g force and coordinated flight during the whole maneuver. Did you not see Bob Hoover filling a glass with tea during a roll in the video (I posted the link earlier)? How do you suppose that would be possible if the maneuver had anything other than positive g?
@@mohabatkhanmalak1161 Tex Johnston was very familiar with the barrel roll of large aircraft as he was test pilot on the B47 where they worked with the airforce in developing an emmalman barrel roll delivery of A Bombs. They from level flight at speed pulled up into a loop and released the bomb, tossing it and at the top of the roll barrel rolled back upright and sped away !!! And they tore up winhs on the B47 doing them. See the video here on You tube of "Combat manuevers of the Boeing B47" and watch it done !!!!
I very much doubt it was pre-planned by Boeing. When Tex Johnston pulled the aircraft into the barrel roll, Bill Allen, watching on the ground, thought his heart was going to stop. When Johnston came back and repeated the maneuver, ruling out any chance it could have been accidental, Allen was livid. If anyone else but Johnston had had any involvement in planning this example of showmanship, Allen would have got to the bottom of it. And afterwards, whenever a Boeing aircraft was going to be demonstrated at an airshow, other event or to a customer, the standing order was, 'No rolls'.
The first plane I ever flew on was a 707 back in the 60's
loved those aircraft!
Hey Yaboinav Avation,
Thanks for your efforts on some of the regional jets that are less talked about, especially like SSJ100 and more particularly, I would like to see more channels discussing Antonovs, specifically the An-148/An-158. Why do you think those failed ? What advantages and added values could these bring to the table compared to the SSJ100, C-Series and E2s. Is it worth it for any airlines to buy An-158 for passengers or An-70 for cargo, and do they bring to the table ?
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I believe apart from the Russian bureaus that make the Russian UAC, Antonov was left out alone in Ukraine, while it is a bureau that has some potential when its history is looked up.
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What do think on upgrading the currently existing Maria An-225, which are only collecting rust ? Is it a practical option to re-equip them with modern avionics on part with the A-380+ and re-engine them to bring back to life ?
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Sorry for the long comment
Cheers
Hey, check out that high tech slide rule those airplane designers are using.